1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always is 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant. How you doing? Put some fruit 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: juice in there? So, Chuck, you are smelling your hand 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: a little bit ago? What's wrong with you? It was 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: just I smell like my wife's handmade artists in soap. Yeah. Yeah, yes, 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: she's having a grand opening. Love your Mama dot COM's 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: now going to have a brick and mortar store. Yeah, 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: very proud of her, and you and Jerry are coming 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: to the grand opening, uh tomorrow, and uh yeah, I'm 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: looking forward to the rosemary garlic chicken wings Chef Charles 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: is going to be made. They are delicious. I'll report 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: back to all of you s Y s K listeners 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and just whether or not they are delicious. I wouldn't 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: take Chuck's word for it, Okay, Um, So Chuck, you 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: know we're talking about today? Yes, actually, let me throw 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: this out. This is totally unrelated. Um and it's uh 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: just too interesting to not mention I was talking to 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Ben Bolan, evil mad creator of stuff they don't want 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: you to know, soon to be released hopefully hopefully, uh, 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: and he was telling me he just found out that 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: the average house price in Detroit right now eleven and 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: a half thousand dollars. Really and you just this has 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with what we're doing, you know, but 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: just can you that boggles the mind. Yeah, that's really cheap. 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: So anyway, after this, we're moving to Detroit. Okay, okay, 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: instead of Detroit housing prices, we are actually talking about 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: geo cashing, right, yes. And I want to go ahead 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: and say that this has been off requested by many 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: many people, geo catchers, I guess, and uh, I just 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 1: want to apologize and say I didn't save all your names, 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: especially the dude last week. I had a guy that 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: we emailed back and forth like three or four times 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: in a few hours, and he was actually geo cashing. 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Why he was writing me and listening to our podcast 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: on his iPhone while he was geo cashing. Think that 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: gets things done. So he kind of feel whenever someone 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: says they listened to us in India when they went 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: on their trip or when they did this I always 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: feel like we're kind of brought along, and I always 43 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: thank people for bringing us along. Yeah, instead, we're actually 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: stuck here in the studio. Apparently we also cure homesickness. 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: We've gotten several emails and uh from Atlantins. Yes, and um, 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: I've heard firsthand stories about people who were sitting in 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: airports in India. Um, who would who were who was 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: just totally homesick? And let's listen to our podcast and 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: was cured. That's nice or comforted at least, all right, 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: geo Cashing? Yeah, yeah, you ready, Yeah, I'm ready. All right, 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: let's do it. Let me give you a little background info, chuck. Um, Actually, 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: geo Cashing can be traced directly back to Korean Airlines 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: Flight double O seven. Really in this commercial airline, Um, 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: this commercial plane was flying I guess in Asia and 55 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: trapes into inadvertently traps into Soviet airspace and was shot 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: down by the Soviets. I remember that. So as a result, 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: President Reagan said, Okay, we've got this kind of GPS 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: system that the Air Force has been using for a while, 59 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: but we need to make this commercially available so that 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: this doesn't happen again. Really, so they did. Reagan started 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Reagan did. It was well, it was 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: already in effect, but he made sure that this program 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: really went to town. UM. So they started launching more 64 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: and more satellites UH for Global Positioning system right uh. 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: And they eventually it became available to the public U 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: two airlines, to whoever wanted it. But there was a 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: little glitch, a purposeful glitch in the system. I did 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: not know about this until I read up on this 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: sounds kind of selective availability. Yeah, basically, they they intentionally 70 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: made the GPS systems available to the public um off 71 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: base by a little bit, by about three three hundred feet, 72 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: because they wanted the military, US military to have the 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: most advanced system to pinpoint a location, and they wanted 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: to get you know, your average Joe just in the 75 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: general area. And so if you're a Korean pilot, you 76 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: you give yourself a three hundred foot buffer when you're 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: flying along you know, Soviet air space. Easy enough, right, 78 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: But if you, you know, are the manufacturer of onboard 79 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: GPS system a car, you don't want your customers going 80 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, Tom, Tom, You're a stupid Like every time 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: you ask a UH for directions right right, So there 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: was a certain limitation by that three hundred feet because 83 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, turn right three feet ago. It's not not 84 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: very helpful. But President Clinton comes along and sees the 85 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: value of GPS. I like this stuff. Yeah, that's exactly 86 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: what he said, and he liked it enough so that 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: he issued an executive order saying we need to get 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: selective availability offline within ten years. That was right. It 89 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: was supposed to be two oh six, but for us 90 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: it happened a lot six years sooner. Right. So, now 91 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: everybody thinks Tom Tom's as smart as he can be, 92 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: and this hobby comes about almost immediately because you could 93 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: pinpoint location. Strickland says, he wrote this article between six 94 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: and not bad. Right. So, so this whole um wealth 95 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: of handheld GPS devices hit the market, and right off 96 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: the bat, a guy named Dave Olmer decides to test 97 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: how well his works. I don't know what model he had, yeah, 98 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: by hiding uh an item and going and marking its location, 99 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: then leaving and coming back and see if he could 100 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: redirect him back there and a test. He left a 101 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: little little box and went on a website of his 102 00:05:54,600 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: and um said, here is here's a box. Here's the coordinates. Uh. 103 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: And I think he wrote very famously, take some stuff, 104 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: leave some stuff. He put a couple of trinkets in there. 105 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: That's really what started the whole thing. And not only 106 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: did it start it, it's pretty much the same way 107 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: nine years later, like this initial geo cash hunt that 108 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: he created. Uh, it immediately created the model that people 109 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: follow today. Well, it's a good model if it ain't broke. 110 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's a pretty basic, simple thing. It's fun. 111 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: I just realized we haven't actually said what geo cashing is, right, Yeah, 112 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: I we should probably get geo cashing is when you 113 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: use your GPS too. It's basically like a treasure hunt. 114 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: People will leave these cashes, um, you know, hidden in 115 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: a location, and you and with the coordinates and you 116 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: get from a website, let's say, and then you go 117 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: and try and find it, and they have little trinkets 118 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: in there you can take. Then you leave your own 119 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: little trinket, and it's just like a big treasure hunt 120 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: that anyone can participate in. Sure, anybody who has access 121 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: to the internet, GPS receiver and very very important a 122 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: topographical map. Yeah, that would help um. And actually also strict. 123 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: I have to say Jonathan Strickland, who is one of 124 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: our colleagues and co hosts of tech Stuff, who you 125 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: know from Necronomicon. Yeah, yeah, that came out. Um he 126 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: he makes an excellent point. You want to make sure 127 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: that the map that you are using was made after 128 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: night and the reason being is in that year we 129 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: switched over the type of data that's used to create 130 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: maps or to position people, so they're The World Geodetic 131 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: System of nineteen eighty four was the new convention for 132 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: creating position and creating maps that's used for GPS. All 133 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: that stuff took. It replaced the North American datam System 134 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: of So if you have a map that was made 135 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: between nineteen twenty seven and three, your topographical exactly the 136 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: year before man that was a monumental year. Um, your 137 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: your map and your your GPS receiver aren't gonna match, 138 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: and you can run into some problems because your GPS 139 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: receiver might just say you're getting warmer go in this direction. 140 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: It may have a compass. If you don't have one 141 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: that you can upload maps onto, then you're not gonna 142 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: know that you're about to fall off a cliff or 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: something because you're staring at your your receiver, right, so 144 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: your little topo map in your compass will let you know, 145 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: hey there's a river crossing or like you said, cliff 146 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: ahead danger. So Dave Olmer hid the first geo cash 147 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: and a guy named Mike Tigue was the first to 148 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: find it. Actually surprisingly there it's almost like this this hobby, 149 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: this um pastime or I don't know what you'd refer 150 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: to it as a game. Sport. Sure, I don't know 151 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: about sport. Well, there's hiking involved a lot of times. 152 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about sport. But so Olmer hides this 153 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: and within I think three days, two people found it, 154 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: and yet two people independently of each other. Right, so 155 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: it was stimmering right into the surface that cash was 156 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: just waiting a half. It was a market for it, 157 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: all right. So they called it GPS stash hunt at 158 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: beginning now, which is a little clumsy compared to geo cashing. Yeah, 159 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: and everyone else will not everyone, but someone at some 160 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: point suggested, is that Matt Stum Yeah, he credits came 161 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: up with the coining the phrase or the term. It's catchy. 162 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: It's Casey's cashy. Uh, So you've got your GPS receiver, 163 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: you've got your topographical map check. I assume you're probably 164 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: wearing wooly socks. Check. Um, what else? What else do 165 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: you need? Well? They advised to take things like flashlight 166 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: and bug spray, sunblock, um, hiking boots, water, that kind 167 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: of thing, extra batteries. We should say all this is 168 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: to assume that you actually want to go on a 169 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: geo cash hunt, right, and you're not just sitting around 170 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: your house listening to it. We should also say there's 171 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: several websites dedicated to this hobby, and that's where you 172 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: want to go to start finding out locations for a 173 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: cash right. Um, there'll be links or else they'll be 174 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: a list of different cashes their coordinates. Geocashing dot com 175 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: is the main one. I think. Yeah, and you want 176 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: to unless you're just really adventurous, you probably want to 177 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: pick something sort of close to you on your first try, 178 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: at least to kind of break your cashing hobby in. 179 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: And some people hide their cashes as Strickling put it 180 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: with um uh sadistic glee. Yeah, there seems to be 181 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: that seems to be part of it is uh, because 182 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: it's no fun if it's just sitting right there in 183 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: the middle of the trailhead. Well, not only that, it's 184 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: probably some schmo who doesn't know what's going on and 185 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: be like, oh, look something, I don't know what this is. Right. Well, 186 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: that leads us to an important point when if you 187 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: are stashing a cash a cache, why that was such 188 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: a problem with that. My wife's gonna make it only 189 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: is gonna make fun of me because I do mess 190 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: up that word a lot. She thinks I'm an idiot. Um. So, 191 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: like if your average hiker happens upon this box full 192 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: of Santana c ds and they're thinking, wow, I can 193 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: just take the c d someone left these, this is awesome. Yeah. 194 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: Or or drugs no, no, no, no, that's one of 195 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the things that you are not supposed to put in 196 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: these acacias because it's a it's a family friendly activity, 197 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: and they don't they don't want to sully it with 198 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: the likes of illegal drugs and such about alcohol, keep 199 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: it clean, no no, no, no. Ok So, so Santana 200 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: c d's is pretty much what you're gonna find in 201 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: a Geokay, well they did. He did say c d 202 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: s and d d d s or you know, handmade 203 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: trinkets that you don't want it to be too expensive 204 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: because you don't want to sink a lot of money 205 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: into it. But whatever, you should if you take something, 206 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: you should leave something. You don't have to take something. 207 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: But if I think you said if you don't take 208 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: anything or leave anything, you should write in the log 209 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: book that's contained and inside the cash and ellen, yeah 210 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: took took nothing or left nothing, took nothing, but yeah, yeah, 211 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: um one thing that you're going to find in any 212 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: geo cash and Chuck you were saying like you should 213 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: put an explanation and maybe a note. Uh. Strickland also 214 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: recommended actually labeling it like this is a geo cash, 215 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: here's my email or here's my phone number. Because I 216 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: don't know if you said or not you don't want 217 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: to cause a pain an well, now I didn't mention. 218 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: Some people geo cash in cities and actually um and 219 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, I can't remember what town it was. Um, 220 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: a geo cash that was hidden in a supermarket caused 221 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: a panic. Yeah, Portsmouth, you know Post nine eleven. People 222 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: see little metal boxes someplace that shouldn't be they're going 223 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 1: to be like, well, there's a bomb stuck to the 224 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: underside of like an escalator rail. Sure, yeah, exactly, especially 225 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: if it blinks or something. And some nerds, some nerve 226 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: is like, what a great hiding spot, and then all 227 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden the cops are, you know, tackling them. Yeah, 228 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: um chuck. As I was saying, the one thing that 229 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: you're going to find in any geo cash is um 230 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: a log book very important. Yeah, because you want to 231 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: It's sort of like a wedding thing that you signed 232 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: when you go to a wedding. You want to say 233 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: that you were in any kind of guest book, wedding, funeral, 234 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: bed and breakfast. You want to add your notes, like 235 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: what you found or what your experience was, this was cool. 236 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: They some of them have disposable cameras in them, and 237 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do there is take a picture 238 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: of yourself and put the camera back in there right. Uh. 239 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: And some people actually like to um see if they 240 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: can get based on that whole um taking something and 241 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: leaving something. They like to see if they can get 242 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: their trinkets across country. Yes, Josh, that is what's that 243 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: called hitchhiker cash. And uh, if if you their instructions 244 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: on how to get the thing across country. The geo 245 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: cashers take great pride and playing along and trying to 246 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: get the st tannas c e D from Atlanta to 247 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, let's say, right. And some people also have 248 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: coins made with some sort of I D on it. 249 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: They're called geo coins. It's a type of hitchhiker cash 250 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: um and it's uh, basically, you find the coin, you 251 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: took it, you too, you put it somewhere else, and 252 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: you're leaving. You're posting these on site so somebody can 253 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: go on and see that their coins made it from 254 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, Topeka to Colorado Springs so far, and they're like, oh, 255 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: that's getting close. Yeah, I think I'd love the spirit 256 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: of this whole thing. It's really I'm gonna try this. 257 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: Actually I've never done it. Santana heavy, drug free traveling 258 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: spirit of geo cash does not get any captures your imagination, 259 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yes, it does. We should also say that 260 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: if you were going to plant and start your own 261 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: little geo cash game, that you want to stay away 262 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: from private land. First of all, Yeah, there's actually some 263 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: public officials are aware of geocashing and not everybody's hip 264 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: with it. Technically, Um, the entire state of New Hampshire 265 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: is one example. Well they're actually being too outlaw correct. Yeah, 266 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: and uh I know national parks it's not allowed. Um, 267 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: some state parks it is allowed. But they say the 268 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: whole spirit of the thing is to be respectful in 269 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the environment, um, not cause a mess, not damage anything. 270 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: And it's really important to geocashers too that they're looked 271 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: at in a favorable light. Yeah, they want to be 272 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: looked at as cooperative and helpful. UM. So basically, if 273 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: you're hiding a g O cash, you want to kind 274 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: of pull your head out of the game and actually 275 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: really kind of look around, right, not just look for 276 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: a hiding place, but look at the impact that geo 277 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: cashier's who come to look for your cash are going 278 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: to have on this area. So you know, you don't 279 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: want to put it in that's a good one. UM. 280 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Historic and archaeological sites, you don't want to place those. 281 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: They're um just basically anywhere where a lot of people tramping. 282 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's probably smart to assume that there's going 283 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: to be a lot of hunters looking for it, UM, 284 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: that they're not going to really have a terrible impact 285 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: on this area, right, I would put one in a 286 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: tree stand, a deer hunting tree stand and see what 287 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: that did for you in the middle of deer season. 288 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: Sure smart, So Chuck, Is it true or not that 289 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: you will be murdered if you remove a cash? Not true? 290 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: But not cool? What about a spanking? You might get 291 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: spanked that that initial guy who started he might he 292 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: might track it down on geo, spank you, but convert. Also, 293 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: you want to maintain your cash, right Like if if 294 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: you get a couple of logs of people saying I 295 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: couldn't find this thing no matter what, that's a bad sign. Yeah, 296 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: it means you should go out and look at your cash. Yeah, 297 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: you want to be clever about where you hide up. 298 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: Not too clever or somebody may have, you know, walked 299 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: off with it. You want to also keep an eye 300 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: on your log book because if it gets filled up, 301 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: you want to replace it with another one. Want to 302 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: bag it? You want to bag everything and I can 303 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: tag it zip block so it doesn't get a rained on. 304 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: You want to double bag the log book absolutely, leave 305 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: a fact leave a pin and a pencil just in case. Uh, 306 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: these guys and gals don't bring there's along because the 307 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: log book is the most important part. Actually this the 308 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: second well, I'd say it's a tie. The other most 309 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: important part is that you logged the stuff on the 310 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: website as well when you get home, right, so everyone 311 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: else knows what's going on, and the game continues. It does, 312 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: and this podcast continues, Chuck, because there's actually variations on 313 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: geo cashing. This I thought was really cool. There's you know, 314 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: the straight up geo cash, which we've been talking king about. Um, 315 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: there's also multi cashes, which are basically there's a series 316 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: of cases which are related to one another. So you 317 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: go to one cash and inside instead of Santana c 318 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: d s or you know, Dare to keep kids off 319 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: drug stickers. Um, there are coordinates to another one. It's 320 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: like a real treasure hunt. Yes, it is, minus the 321 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: treasure of course. Yeah, well it depends on how many 322 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: Santana c ds plus they say. The treasure is is 323 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: in the experience itself. It's not so much about the trinkets. 324 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, in the spirit of goodness and giving, 325 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: I see that you're put out by that you want 326 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: some money or something. There's also letter the letter box 327 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: hybrid explain that. So that's kind of like a combination 328 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: between uh, straight up geo cashing and a type of 329 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: treasure hunting which is letter boxing. So it's it's like 330 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: a multi cash, but you have to solve puzzles or 331 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: figure out hints or clues to the location along with 332 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: these coordinates, which sounds like fun and the coordinate maybe 333 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: a starting point or is that a mystery cash that 334 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of, Yes, that is a mystery cash, it's 335 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: not mistaken. Well, it was pretty close to the letterbox hybrid. 336 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: And then there's a virtual cash with that I think 337 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: kind of stinks because there's no lute involved. That's just 338 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: the location that you're in in in it for the 339 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: spirit of cashing, well, for the spirit of that and 340 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: uh ok o yo maa Tana c D Yah, Yeah, 341 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: I know what I'm getting you for Christmas, santanna' cd. Yeah. 342 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: And Josh you you mentioned hints and uh and for 343 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: the puzzle. That's not limited to just the letter box 344 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: or the mystery cash. It's a lot of times you'll 345 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: you'll want to include little hints on your website to 346 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: to get people there. It's like not only coordinates. Yeah, 347 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: so Chuck, if somebody wants to go ahead and get 348 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: into this. Where do you start? Uh? Well, I guess 349 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: you would want to pick out a location, a general location, 350 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: And like we said, since you have to manage your 351 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: your little stash here, then you want to have it 352 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: kind of close by so it's manageable and easy to 353 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: get to. You don't want to have to manage something 354 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: that you have to scale, like a fifty ft wall 355 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: to get to, unless you're that dude, knock yourself out. 356 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: That's right, Chuck. But also you want to start by 357 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: buying the GPS receiver. Right, that's a good place. And 358 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to just say, hey, I bought my 359 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: GPS receiver, I'm gonna start geo cashing. You want to 360 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: test it out a little bit first, And how do 361 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: you do that, big boy? Well, I guess you would 362 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: go to a spot huh ping where you are, right, 363 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: I know it's called pinging or what we're gonna call 364 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: it ping ping where you are, and then leave and 365 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: then see if you can get back there using the GPS. Right. Yeah, 366 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: that's pretty easy. I'd probably do it more than once too, 367 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: with a couple of different locations. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, 368 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: but once you get started, then you can start a 369 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: few hunts, maybe hide your own, meet some cool people. Yeah, 370 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: spend a bunch of money on disposable cameras, say Tannasy's yeah, 371 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: it's wide open. Uh we need I guess we need 372 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: to cover the lingo real quick too. Alright, So if 373 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: you're out there and you see these letters, like if 374 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: you're a Texter or you don't know l O L 375 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: means you'd be mighty confused. Everyone keeps saying law to you. 376 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: So uh c I t O means cash in trash out. 377 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: And that's one of the tenants is that you should 378 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: kind of like a hikers take only pictures, leave only 379 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: footprints mantra. So you should like pick up trash along 380 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: the way and take it with you. That's one. You 381 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: want to name another one or you want me to 382 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: do all these well I already talked about TNF TNLN okay, 383 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: took nothing nothing. There's f t F, which is a 384 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: big one that's first to find. And if you're the 385 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: first one to uh define the stash, that's pretty cool. 386 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: I can tell you a name for us geo muggles. 387 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: If just people who don't geo cash. Yeah, so I'd 388 00:20:53,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: say like nine percent of the global population or geo muggles, 389 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: your muggles. True and a spoiler and just like you 390 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: would suppose is a comment that reveals the location on 391 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: like a website or something. Yeah, and he would want 392 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: to do that. So a geo muggle would do that. 393 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Like any good underground hobby, it has its lingo, it 394 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: has its websites. But like you were saying, it's family 395 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: friendly and um, there's just kind of a cool spirit 396 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: to it and it's it struck me as very open. 397 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: I think geo cashing is one of the more friendly 398 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: UM hobbies around. Yeah, anytime you start a community like this, 399 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: like the the hash runs that people do, it's cool. 400 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's something that that people can take part 401 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: in and it's it's a lot of fun. I guess 402 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: we can. We mentioned Philadelphia real quick. Sure they actually 403 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: have embraced it big time. Um. In the spring of 404 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: oh seven, they they had a little thing where they 405 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: wanted to promote a little promotional deal the Franklin Institute's 406 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: King Tut display, and they actually had a geo cashing 407 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: game that they presented public where you'll go to twelve 408 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: different sites related to the exhibit, and UM, each site 409 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: had a stamp and you collected these stamps and once 410 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: you've collected all of them, then you get a prize 411 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: at the end, which from what I understand was a 412 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: Santana c D Yeah, and a ticket to the King 413 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: Tut exhibit. So Chuck that it. That is it. And 414 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: if you want to know more about geo cashing, I 415 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: gotta tell you Strickland wrote the definitive article on this. 416 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: He used the geek god tone where was like no 417 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: drugs you know, I mean, he just he did it. 418 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: He knocked it out of the part he did. So 419 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: if you want to learn more about geo cashing, I 420 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: would strongly urge you too, even before you go buy 421 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: your GPS receiver, read Jonathan Strickland's article on geo cashing 422 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: good start, and also Marshall Brain, founder of the site, 423 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: and Tom Harris, one of our freelance writers, UM wrote 424 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: how GPS works really good overview of how global positioning works. UM. 425 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: Those are two good articles. You can find them both 426 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: by typing in GPS into the handy search bart how 427 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com and Chuck Before we do Listener 428 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: mail let's plug what are you plugging? Let's plug the 429 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: webcast and um the blogs. Okay, Every Wednesday afternoon one 430 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: pm Eastern Standard time, Josh and I do a little webcast. 431 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: It's live. It's a live video webcast, just so there's 432 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: no mistaking it. And it's more newsy, and we cover 433 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: current events and interesting topics from around the world. And um, 434 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: it's fun. We we've we've been getting some. It is fun. 435 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: It's gotten to be fun. I stop um feeling the 436 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: urge to vomit right before it every time. You're solid, bro, 437 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: it's good, so are you, buddy? Thanks? Uh. And then 438 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: we also have a blog, Stuff you should know. Blog 439 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: very much in the spirit of stuff you should know, 440 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: we'd pretty much write about whatever strikes our fancy, which 441 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: is nice. Yeah, you wrote about a gun toting uh 442 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: town hall meeting attendee recently and some good debate on 443 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: that one, which I figured. Yeah, n I wrote about 444 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: Gary Warren, the founder of Susy Clubs. So those are 445 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: just a couple of uh. So that's plug fest oh nine, 446 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: which means it's time for a listener mail. Yes, before 447 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: we again do a listener mail. Our producer Jerry had 448 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: a special request because we refer to the great Ira 449 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Glasses our arch and Nemesis, and a few podcasts A 450 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: Goo I remember, which We've got some response. People are like, 451 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: what's going on? Guys? We love Ira Glass. We figured 452 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: job would be fans too. We do love Ira Glass. Oh, 453 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: we're big time fans and we love this American life. 454 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: And there's a friendly ratings war that they consistently win, 455 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: and so that's why we called him our arch nemesis. 456 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: But there's there's nothing but love and Ira Glass. If 457 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: you know we exist, we love you. Thank you for 458 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: inspiring us. Yes, So what else you got? I got 459 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: a listener mail all right, Josh listener mail time. We 460 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: have a couple of quickies here called this one Sarcopenia 461 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: um proven. So we had a guy right in said 462 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: he's been listening for a while now and he wants 463 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: to say what that we're great? Um. He is a 464 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: gym dude and he was listening to the podcast at 465 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: the gym and it struck a chord with me. About 466 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: six months ago, a little fragile, hunched over ladies started 467 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: showing up at the gym. I probably would not have 468 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: taken much notice, but she was toting around a portable 469 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: oxygen tank which gave me a deep respect for her tenacity, 470 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: and a water bottle with a very large straw protruding 471 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: from it. She shows up on a regular basis and 472 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: puts everyone else to shame and works hard with the trainer. 473 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: Since that time, she has become the poster child for 474 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: reversing the aging process. First she dropped the oxygen tank 475 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: completely gone. Then she lost her hunch in her back 476 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: and is walking up right again. That's awesome. She still 477 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: has a water bottle with the straw, which has become 478 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: the only way for me to identify her because she 479 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: looks so much younger. Thanks for helping me understand exactly 480 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: how this went down. And that is from Jason Boo. Yeah, 481 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yeah. And then another quickie. This is from 482 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: our buddy Danielle in Old Claire, Wisconsin. Danielle and I 483 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: are pen pals, and she loves that we mentioned Oh 484 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Claire and she boygan in places like that, so she 485 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: she sent us a list of other Wisconsin cities that 486 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: she bets we cannot pronounce. I'm just gonna put that here, 487 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go ahead and say the first one 488 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: is okonama walk I think you're way off. All right, 489 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: you go next Wawa tosa. That was pretty easy. The 490 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: next one is out to Outmi. You sound Cambodian. I'm 491 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: going to try trimpalow I get thesey ones all right. 492 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: The next one, so it's not easy kiwi kiwani. Yeah, 493 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: that's not that's not easy at all, all right, uh waukesha. 494 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: And finally we have why y'all why aw go? Yeah. 495 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: So then the last one is double dash Danielle, daniel 496 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: the pin Pals, Danielle take that, Yeah, perfect pronunciation all 497 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: the way, all the way down the list in your 498 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: face Danielle, and Sarcopania. If you want to correspond with 499 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: Chuck or I, Chuck is actually really good at responding 500 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: to a listener mail um, and he's made some pretty 501 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: good friends along the way. So if you want to 502 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 1: be Chuck's friend, send an email to Stuff Podcast at 503 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. 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