WEBVTT - “Wide Right” with Tom Papa | Super Bowl XXV: Bills vs. Giants

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<v Speaker 1>Today, we have legendary comedian I'm a huge fan. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the host of Serious XM's What a Joke? Tom Papa

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<v Speaker 1>and Studio Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you op me with my math phone?

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<v Speaker 1>We're no, I'm not giving you the answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'm in the bathroom on YouTube? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>add fractions with different bottoms?

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<v Speaker 1>We are covering Super Bowl twenty five, the Buffalo Bills

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<v Speaker 1>versus the legendary New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was a stacked team.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever perform in Buffalo?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on the city.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't go back this game watching my tiny apartment

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<v Speaker 2>on this tiny TV. It's just so memorable, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminded me of every super Bowl I was in.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like this was gonna be Buffalo's night.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets down all the way to those last kick.

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<v Speaker 2>No one was in their seat. We were just lying

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground, holding each other, not looking just so insane.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna lose, like there's no part of you that

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<v Speaker 2>thinks he's gonna miss it?

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<v Speaker 1>No good, Wide Right. Games with Names is a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names, presented by win Bet.

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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode, we are talking Super Bowl twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>That is right, folks, and I'm not saying that is right.

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<v Speaker 1>That is wide right, the wide right game with the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants versus the Buffalo Bills. And we speak with old

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Poppa. It was good to get his perspective. Lifelong

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<v Speaker 1>Giants fan had some awesome stories. We get into his

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<v Speaker 1>New York sports fandom. We get into his old green

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<v Speaker 1>room stories with Jerry Seinfeld, the guy who may have

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<v Speaker 1>put him under his arm. I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>He said he wrote those coattails to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he wrote them to the top. Can't blame him.

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<v Speaker 1>Then to the tippity tippity top. Not a bad set

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<v Speaker 1>of cotails ride and you can't talk New York Giants

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<v Speaker 1>without talking Lawrence Taylor LT. Okay, he asked him LT

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<v Speaker 1>stories in there, and then we wrap it up with

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one, Tampa Stadium, Tampa, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Football Giants are leading the Bills twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>With eight seconds left, Scott Norwood lines up for the

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven yard kick.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why Rise b.

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<v Speaker 1>E a sports that was awesome. Welcome to Games with Names,

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<v Speaker 1>present to buy when bet today. We have Tom Papa

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<v Speaker 1>and studio legendary comedian. I'm a huge fan his latest book,

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<v Speaker 1>We're All in It Together, So Make Room is out now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the host of serious XMS what a joke and

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<v Speaker 1>catch him on a tour in a city near you. Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming to the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and I got to introduce you to Jack and Kyler.

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<v Speaker 4>They're part of our almost kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones that keep this thing going. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you up to these days?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm just coming home after the tour. It was

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<v Speaker 2>it went really really hard from all year, but particularly

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<v Speaker 2>like September through right now, just slamming everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>How many shows?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>You know I never added up. Yeah, because that's my

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<v Speaker 2>kind of my philosophy in life. Don't do the math.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't add up how many more days are going to

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<v Speaker 2>see your parents? Don't add up how many times you're

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<v Speaker 2>the road. I on my website, I have a map

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<v Speaker 2>and it puts the little dots of where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even like seeing that. I just like to

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<v Speaker 2>knock him off as thing as they come. But from

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<v Speaker 2>September till now every weekend and then a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>dates in between during the weeks. Yeah, So it's been

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<v Speaker 2>really it's been great. I mean, all playing all these

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<v Speaker 2>great theaters and it's been amazing, but it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>be home.

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<v Speaker 1>That life's gotta be tough. I mean I became real

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<v Speaker 1>close with Sam Morow and we did our first season

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<v Speaker 1>together of games with names Yeah and scheduling for yeah

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<v Speaker 1>with a comedian who's full tie. And that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>your guys job, that's your reps. That's how you guys

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<v Speaker 1>prepare for when you're getting your big shit. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of learned that through Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he would go every night to the cellar

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would go do the tour thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a tough way of living. Man. You guys really

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<v Speaker 1>gotta love it or you gotta be fucked up in

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<v Speaker 1>the head.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta treat it. You gotta treat it with respect

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<v Speaker 2>because it Actually when I was kind of really starting

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<v Speaker 2>to go on tour, I was having that conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle and he said a thing which I always kept,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, you have to treat this like an athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you really have to do all the things, get

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<v Speaker 2>your sleep, get your exercise, eat right. You can't just

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<v Speaker 2>go out there. Then there are guys that do it.

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<v Speaker 2>They just drink after shows and do whatever, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like that'll kill you. So I really just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>took it really seriously. And it's in summer. The travels hard,

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<v Speaker 2>but what a blessing. Like you're in this room with

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<v Speaker 2>people and everyone's just laughing every single night. It's pretty fortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a way of catching your high, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a comedian loves to get that laugh. Athlete loves

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<v Speaker 1>the high of competing. And why we're here. We're here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about one of the most legendary competitions in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League that springboarded as so many storyries

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<v Speaker 1>and coaches and like livelihoods of the game. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>the matchup of Super Bowl twenty five between the Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>Bills and what number was this on theirs? This number four,

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<v Speaker 1>the one this first kicked off, kicked off the Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>Bills versus the legendary New York Jets lt New York

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<v Speaker 1>Jets wide right. Bill Peller sells New York.

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<v Speaker 4>Jets Giants, New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing giants?

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<v Speaker 3>That's like bizarro world NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it technically was true with Parcels. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Jets didn't go no.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are doing the wide right game. Why did

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<v Speaker 1>you pick this game?

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<v Speaker 4>Tom?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Why are we going this route?

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<v Speaker 2>I am a Giants fan, which is very tough to

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<v Speaker 2>say right now in this current year. I yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty great. It is so great. It actually is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting, like when we'll get into it, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but Hofstetler, who filled in for Phil Simms and takes

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<v Speaker 2>them to this victory, he's kind of a Dovido kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a guy, like, you know, knocked around. He's just

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<v Speaker 2>a sub and then he just finds himself in this

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<v Speaker 2>crazy fortunate position.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love the Giants. I was I was out

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<v Speaker 2>of school. I grew up in New Jersey. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to school in New Jersey. And this is even before

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<v Speaker 2>I was a comedian. I think this is like ninety

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<v Speaker 2>one or ninety two, and I graduated in ninety So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm living in an apartment with my girlfriend and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a Giants fan. And we went to school in like

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<v Speaker 2>Central Jersey where it was all Eagle fans and Giant fans.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're all like scrapping and all just like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such prime time for watching football, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and this game watching my tiny apartment on this tiny

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<v Speaker 2>TV with my buddies, a couple of season ticket holders

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<v Speaker 2>was it's just so memorable. It's so insane because as

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<v Speaker 2>a Giant fan, every team that we've had, even the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that win the Super Bowl, yeah, they're always they

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<v Speaker 2>have talented guys and whatever, but they're always something a

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<v Speaker 2>little off. They were always a little ragtag. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a are they gonna make it? They could. It

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<v Speaker 2>almost feels like we shouldn't be getting as far as

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<v Speaker 2>we are each time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Tumblins Super Bowls that he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the hot seat before both the Sea the seasons literally

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<v Speaker 1>both times, like it was like a dumpster fire and

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<v Speaker 1>then they got hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then they got hot out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they get that toughness. I mean there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about the New York Football Giants that you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>they when they turn it on and they got it going,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with these Parcels teams.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a formula of how to win and it

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<v Speaker 1>was displayed in this game especially. Yeah, tough defense, control

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<v Speaker 1>the game, eat the I mean backup quarterback, use the

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<v Speaker 1>run game, use the players around us that we know

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<v Speaker 1>what their strengths are, and not put them in a

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<v Speaker 1>buying by trying to fucking let's not go five wide

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<v Speaker 1>and throw and you know we can't win that way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is this is a cool game because it

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<v Speaker 1>was like that tough defense versus that run and shoot

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<v Speaker 1>style offense that the Bills were running at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the Bills were, I mean, Kelly was

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<v Speaker 2>so legit. Thomas right, yeah, oh my god. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>like they seemed like the army that was going to

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<v Speaker 2>win it, and the Giants are like, maybe something will

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<v Speaker 2>happen and we'll win it.

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<v Speaker 1>And they kind of the Giants kind of sneaked into

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<v Speaker 1>this one beating my San Francisco, Francisco right forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers on that fumble by Roger Craig. Yeah, we would

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<v Speaker 1>a three peat. We're going for three peat.

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<v Speaker 3>We were going for the three peat fourteen to two,

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen two too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would always bring that up to Belichick. Yoh really,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the cafeteria line or something that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I got gained some courage to talk to him. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Bill Man, you know, Roger craiganill fumble that ball,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have three in a row. It's a fucking niners.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, fast team, they got dudes, hit him, you

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<v Speaker 1>get all so bad, he's still mad. I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, dude, you guys won you want it all? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>How long did it take you to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do that with him?

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<v Speaker 4>Seven years?

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<v Speaker 1>And no, but this is this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>fun game to jump in, jump into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it's remarkable when you look at Sorry to

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<v Speaker 2>cut you off, but it's remarkable when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the game in this era. Yeah, it looks so different.

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<v Speaker 2>It was they just I mean, their body types are different.

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<v Speaker 2>They just kind of they look like guys that like

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<v Speaker 2>like truck drivers that happen to play football, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I mean the information and the resources and

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<v Speaker 1>and just the technology of you know, and the money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, money makes every everything crazier. And with this

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<v Speaker 1>huge got this huge beast they call the NFL, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a bigger and bigger product. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>guys learned from these guys and then you know, back

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<v Speaker 1>like I always tell people, it was like folklore to

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<v Speaker 1>hear about what Jerry Rice did as as a trainer,

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<v Speaker 1>how he would train in the off season. You heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it. You didn't know exactly what it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nowadays you can go, you can go anywhere at the

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<v Speaker 1>tip of your fingertips. You can watch your favorite football

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<v Speaker 1>player train, you can watch you know, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>you get these little gym ratches.

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<v Speaker 4>Little guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they make themselves little, you know, it's how it

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<v Speaker 1>naturally goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all sport, It's just everything's rising, everything's rising. Amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, how did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Start your fandom with with the New York Football Giants?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jersey guy, you're in mid Jersey. I was

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<v Speaker 1>North Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're near the city, near the city, about a

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<v Speaker 2>half hour outside the city and in that in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>It I'm a Yankee fan. My grandfather was a grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in like Hoboke and like during the Mickey Mantle

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<v Speaker 2>like the era. So he got me into the Yankees.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if that's the thing that makes

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<v Speaker 2>you go this way, but the way it works in

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<v Speaker 2>the New York metropolitan area is it's Yankees, Giants, Yankees Giants, Rangers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Mets Jets on the other side, Yeah, the Long Island

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<v Speaker 2>guys that side of New York Mets Jets. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I was Yankees Giants and just love them forever. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to one Jet game with my father at Chase Stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>at the old Chase Stadium, and we had to drive

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<v Speaker 2>like from New Jersey through the city to Shay and

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<v Speaker 2>sit up in the nosebleed and watch the Jets and

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<v Speaker 2>they were terrible. And we drove home and both my

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<v Speaker 2>father and I were like, We'll never do this again.

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<v Speaker 2>And my family, like my father and my grandparents and

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<v Speaker 2>my mother, they all grew up just about ten miles

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<v Speaker 2>from Giants Stadium, Clifton, New Jersey, that whole area, So

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<v Speaker 2>that was just that was just deep deep inside all

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<v Speaker 2>of us. And then so I'm in high school watching

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence Taylor and Phil Simms and all the I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just and lt lived in the town that

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<v Speaker 2>I went to high school, so it was just like

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<v Speaker 2>legend legendary status. We had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you ever see anything?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you just hear anything, yeah, like he would.

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<v Speaker 2>Just it wasn't We weren't getting any of the dark

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that came out later.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought about you were you I didn't come out.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't out there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that wasn't out there yet, not for us, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was like a twelve year old and LT

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<v Speaker 1>lived on my block. I'd sit like see if he

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<v Speaker 1>was bringing it, what he was doing, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like people would see him like, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>stopping in at stores or stuff like that. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was so crazy dominant. It was just just knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>he lived in the same town was like all of

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<v Speaker 2>us walked around like we were LT, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. Like it was really so intense. And then

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<v Speaker 2>my my football coach in high school, he got to

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<v Speaker 2>work on the staff of the Giants when like I

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<v Speaker 2>was a freshman, and he always told this great story.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a great coach Filado. He was this really

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<v Speaker 2>just gregarious Italian guy and we all just loved him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just super cool. And he was working on

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<v Speaker 2>the staff like during the summer at the Giants and

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<v Speaker 2>he came in he was just all like all upset

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<v Speaker 2>with himself and were like, coach, what's the matter, what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on? He goes, Oh, it was terrible. I was

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<v Speaker 2>because Parcels lived in the same area as LT. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he lived in our town or like one town over.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're having the meeting and they're doing all the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and working and my coach like, just you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you're around someone famous and you kind of freak

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<v Speaker 2>out and you just blurt something out. He was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever need a ride home? I coach up

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<v Speaker 2>up right in your town. And Parcels looked at him

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<v Speaker 2>a ride home and just like looked away. And my coach,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, your football coach is like he's like a god, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so my god is just being destroyed by a bigger god.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so humiliated. He's like, what did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean I can only imagine those like those

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<v Speaker 1>New Yorkers and those like those little Borough City people

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<v Speaker 1>and those Jersey people. They love the Giants. Oh, they

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<v Speaker 1>they cherish anything those people do and every part of SLLS.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think I need a fucking ride home?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you My coach was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I can see him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know him, but I can see him doing

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<v Speaker 1>that just through how I know Bill and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>them in act.

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<v Speaker 4>I can see how.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart. How would you describe your football career?

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<v Speaker 2>I was a New York Giant when I was in

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<v Speaker 2>like the league before high school, and uh, we had

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<v Speaker 2>all the Giant colors and the Giants Gavis uniforms and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the same size. I was the same size in

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<v Speaker 2>sixth grade that I am now. So I was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was for a while. I was a beast,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I started out on the line. My father

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<v Speaker 2>was a really good player. He went to Clifton High

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<v Speaker 2>School back in the day where like the pictures are insane.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like five thousand people for a high school game,

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<v Speaker 2>all in hats. And I was very tough and he

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<v Speaker 2>took them to state championship a couple of times. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was just like dominant, like strong, strong guy. So

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<v Speaker 2>he coached me my whole life. So from kindergarten through

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<v Speaker 2>high school.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He was tough, he wouldn't he not. Yeah, he was tough,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't like the coaches that get like abusive,

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<v Speaker 2>like grab your face mask. Yeah yeah. He would just

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<v Speaker 2>be more like he had this quiet intensity, so like

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<v Speaker 2>he just came up and was like what are you doing,

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be like, uh, you know, you'd shake. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to like really go after your dad?

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<v Speaker 1>Did that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a coach for you long time?

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<v Speaker 1>I coach my whole life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's some some funny documentary stuff out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, no.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad was just very tough on.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, and I was like, I was like a wild kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was a very I would if you challenge me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to challenge you back. Yeah, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to prove him wrong and like you

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<v Speaker 1>how to handle me. I needed to be handled like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, right right.

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<v Speaker 4>He was tough on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and then you had to be broken

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<v Speaker 2>down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to break me, Yeah, had to break me,

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<v Speaker 1>but he never did. I tried. I charged him ount

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<v Speaker 1>on him once we were doing VP before a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really Yeah, he threw.

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<v Speaker 1>At me because I was dipping my shoulder and he

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<v Speaker 1>threw at me. He hit me like I jumped up

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<v Speaker 1>and hit my ankle. I threw my bat and out.

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<v Speaker 1>I went in charge of me. Hit me once, really

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<v Speaker 1>hit me and I was on the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to head butt them and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. I think I had the opposite, Like my

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<v Speaker 2>father wanted me to be more like you. My father

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<v Speaker 2>wanted me to be more intense, and I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was also the class clown, you know, like I was

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<v Speaker 2>a good athlete, but I was also the class I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was though I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was, but I yeah, so it's cool though.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean overall, did you think the experience of having

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<v Speaker 2>your dad coach you all those years was.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be where I'm at without it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I mean it was a different time,

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<v Speaker 1>different generation, had no one to learn from his. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have a dad, so like, yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he thought was right, making it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah it was tough, but I had a great life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it has a hard worker, great example and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best. Yeah, it's a cool thing. Like when

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<v Speaker 2>you know everyone's there on the team, but your dad's there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty He was the worst, the worst.

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<v Speaker 4>Like they'd be like your dad as a coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, you can go home and hit

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<v Speaker 1>me if I don't have a good practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you guys get to last. You guys get to

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<v Speaker 2>go eat with normal people.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be right back after this quick break. No, you

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<v Speaker 1>played some sports an athlete, and like you said, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a class clown. How did when did you know you

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<v Speaker 1>were a stand up comic? When did you know you

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<v Speaker 1>were a comedian? When were you going to pursue that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like seventh grade. Seventh Yeah, like seventh grade, I got.

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<v Speaker 1>You, just loved the laugh made you.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved I was funny. I was always funny. And

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<v Speaker 2>then seventh grade was when I found out that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a job for adults. That's like when I learned

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<v Speaker 2>about Steve Martin and George Carlin. Was like, oh my man,

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<v Speaker 2>like grown people, this is their job. And so at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, I was just like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do that. I just knew it. I just knew I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm going after that. So everything kind of went

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<v Speaker 2>that way. But I was an athlete too, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I played like crazy, and I was also

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<v Speaker 2>really funny. I was just kind of I remember a

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<v Speaker 2>guy on the line, Joe Melendez, who were out there

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm running warm up and I'm getting people's face

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<v Speaker 2>because they're just kind of slacking, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was the captain and I'm yelling at everybody to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>yelling at my friend Joe to get his shit together,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I'm sorry, I just you got to

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<v Speaker 2>give me a minute to adjust. You were just making

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<v Speaker 2>us laugh until I was crying in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you're my boss, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a minute to shift gears here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Joe Melendez, Melendez, it's called fucking leadership. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get them on their high you gotta cut them down.

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<v Speaker 2>They're low, that's right. So I but so I always knew,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I said, I was this size. So I

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<v Speaker 2>had pretty decent high school. I ran full back, and

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<v Speaker 2>but I knew that was it, Like I could have.

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<v Speaker 2>My father wanted me to play Division III, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was done. I knew it was and I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be a comedian. So I went to

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<v Speaker 2>a school that didn't have football and uh, but had

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<v Speaker 2>but had theater.

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<v Speaker 1>What's cool? Rider?

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<v Speaker 2>Where's that in Jersey? Mid Jersey, said jer Yeah, with

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<v Speaker 2>all the Eagle fans. Yeah. And the writer I always

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 2>say is uh. Its distinction is that it's down the

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<v Speaker 2>road from Princeton. Yeah, you know, it's not the best school,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was. It was good to me, and they

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<v Speaker 2>had a theater department and no football. So I went

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<v Speaker 2>there to get my degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Princeton it's like the birthplace of football, Yeah, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Princeton Yale? I think you're right first football game ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? Rutgers Rutgers? Rutgers Rutgers in Princeton, Princeton Rutgers

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<v Speaker 1>the first football game ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I didn't know Rutgers was that old.

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<v Speaker 1>So you went, you go to writer any did you

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<v Speaker 1>did you have any other comedians with you? No, You're

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<v Speaker 1>the only one there anyone else in the class? Or

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<v Speaker 1>how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>In?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>You were there to study communications. The agreement was that

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<v Speaker 2>I would get a degree, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was smart because I, you know, meet a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of comedians that don't know how to make a phone call,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>a good deal. And I just dove into the theater.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just in all the plays and I just

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<v Speaker 2>took up. I did all my athletics stuff went into theater.

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 2>So I was just going balls out, getting the leads

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>in the plays and doing whatever I could. And then

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 2>as soon as that I graduated, I went to New

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 2>York or like, I lived in Jersey with my girlfriend

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 2>during this game and then moved closer to the city

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and then started doing open mics and stuff, and then

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>that was it. On June twelfth, nineteen ninety three, it

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 2>was my first stand up three. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You just you get up. You're done with school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, got some good parts, got some experience, got to

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 1>meet some good people, hone down some skills. All right,

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to New York City. Let's fucking try it out.

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's go do it. Let's go do it. Yeah, And that's.

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>That's you gotta have some faith in yourself, like anyone

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that has a good story, right, I mean all the

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been blessed, unfortunate enough to meet so many different

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>people in so many different fields. Yeah, and it's about

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 1>taking that shot. Yeah, you know, and and believing in yourself.

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:31.640
<v Speaker 1>That is the common thing that goes into all the stories. Yeah,

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's they're in different ways, but it's it's always

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>good to hear that, you know.

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>But like you like, looking back and you tell the story,

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, it seems like, okay, then I

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 2>win for it. But it just once the idea gets

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 2>in your brain, you're just like it's just you. Yeah,

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 2>You're just you don't even think of it, like right,

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 2>like I'm making five dollars a night doing stand up.

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 2>In the beginning, I thought it was the greatest thing ever. Yeah,

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 2>like now this version, thinking back on that is like,

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>how did you survive?

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I put it puts you in perspective, sure, just because

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what it took to get to where you're at.

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know all those little things. Yeah, but

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like you can't stop it, like what you

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 2>were that you had to be that.

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>And I also I'm very thankful because a lot of people,

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, like my passion just so happened to like

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 1>go with my talent. You know, a lot of people

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 1>have a passion for something, but they don't they're not

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>necessarily and that's something. They're talent field or they're talented

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>as something, but they don't love it, you know, and

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that's the tough you know, that's tough.

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know they never find it.

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>They never find it. You're on a search for something.

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 2>So so how did at what age were you like, Oh,

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not going to give this up.

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I was in a different situation where I was always

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>like having to prove myself, Like I always thought I

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>was the best dude on the field, and I always

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>like I literally thought that anytime I stepped off field.

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>But like it was always oh there's this guy and

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>then you're not that big, right, and I always ball out.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>There's always an excuse for why there was someone else,

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>and like so it kind of manipulated my mind not

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to think.

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Of like the future future.

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like always so focused on like fuck that

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 1>You're always working at what was on your plate, and

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>every step of the way, you know there was something

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, it wasn't enough to play college quarterback,

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>this didn't have a position in the pros. So there's

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>always something that like tricked my mind into the competition

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>mode where you thought about it, but it gave you

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>a a direction.

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 2>To go right just knocking them out as you go

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 2>along trying.

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, you get knocked out a lot more.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>You can knock them out. You know, you're out in

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>New York, you're out, fresh out of college and you're

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>hitting these clubs. Life is great, probably in New York nineties,

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>probably crazy fun.

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 4>When did when did you.

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>First have like your first break or or like where

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>someone saw you or you met a friend, or you're

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>in a comedy club with someone and they you know,

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's always that one thing, Yeah, where like that's

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>when you started really making it.

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's uh. I always say that my biggest break

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 2>was when I met Seinfeld.

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he he came into the clubs after his show

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>was done, and there's this one two day, two night

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>period where I was on stage when he came to check.

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 2>He was just he came back and he was just

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>checking out the scene before he went up again. Yeah,

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>he was just checking out the club and seeing what

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 2>it was all about. And I was on stage two

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 2>nights in a row. I saw him walk in. While

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:48.959
<v Speaker 2>I was on stage, you could see through the window

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>at Stand Up New York in the Upper West Side,

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 2>and I saw him come in and uh, Like this

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 2>second night, I was like through new stuffs, show him

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 2>that I had other stuff, and I came off and

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you're really funny. I was like, and you

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>just started a conversation at the bar, and I grabbed

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 2>onto his coattails and didn't let go. And when he

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 2>was he was so huge at that moment, and him

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>giving me his endorsement just made everybody else, oh yeah,

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>let's stick another look at Tom. Because at the time

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 2>I was like trying to break into late night was

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I had some little stuff, but I was like hadn't

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 2>really broken through and the validation I got from other

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>people from his endorsement, and also then he took me

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>on tour with him, just I just soaked it in

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>like a sponge. He worked the way that I worked.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't a comedian that was just getting high and drinking.

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I rode all the time. I was really dedicated to

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>like this craft of it. But it wasn't until I

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 2>met him that it validated that my way of working

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>was a way to work. So I just I learned

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>how to carry yourself as a comedian, as a man,

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>as a I just got so much from him that

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>that was really the biggest break.

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>What makes what makes Seinfeld so special? What are some

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of the things that he may have taught you as

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a lesson or some of the things you just picked up,

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like because you said you prepare like him? Yeah, Like

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>what are it like me being around Tom Brady? Like

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I learned on how to take care of like without

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>him saying ship if you just if you, if you're

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>fortunate enough to be around someone who's succeeded in your

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>your field, you could just pick things up and I

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.719
<v Speaker 1>would take like how he would take care of his body,

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, compartmentalizing like life and you know, professional like

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>there are little things you what were some of the

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>things you learned from see what made him special?

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's there's so much. I mean, they're not there,

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 2>they're not trying to teach you. But if you want

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>to learn, just hang around these guys and you really

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>start picking it all up.

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Like if I allow you to hang around, they're teaching you.

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>That's that's kind of yea. Yeah, good, that's what I

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>always That's how I Yeah, when when like a stud, Yeah,

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>because I would always try to. I always hung around

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>with the studs of the team or other players when

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>there's like training areas in the off season. I see

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>where Larry Fitzgerald was.

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to be around him.

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to see what the fuck he was doing.

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, Larry Fitzgerald. I have a funny quick story.

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I got to play in the All Star Game for

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the Major League Baseball. You know they do the the

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 2>celebrity and old timers. I guess. So I got to

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>play on the softball team and I had this TV

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 2>show at the time, and I got to do it,

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 2>and we played in Arizona, and I'm in the outfield

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and I'm freaking out. You know, I don't really play baseball,

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>but I'm in my little uniform. That Bernie Williams locker

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>room is next to mine, and I'm all like freaked out.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 2>And if it's Gerald gets up and smacks one right

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to me and I come running in and I catch

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 2>it and I'm like so excited, and the whole place

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 2>boos me because it's his hometown.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yes, she and that ball come off a

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>bat when you haven't seen it in a while and

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>having to judge it that little thing you probably show,

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I got it, I did it.

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's crazy. So that's a great way to

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>put it, though, if they let you hang around, it

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>really is. So I learned. The biggest thing was that

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I learned that comedy is this you're funny, and it's

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 2>so kind of it's kind of like this wild bull.

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what is this thing? Like you just kind

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>of like get up and guys. People do it in

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different ways. And the thing I learned

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>from him was that, no, this is a craft and

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>you can get better at it, but you got to

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>work your ass off to get better at it. And

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>you got to really dedicate the time and put it

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>in and write all the time and get up on

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 2>stage all the time and go back to work. And

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 2>we're not here to hang out and chase girls and

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>get drunk. We're here to get good. So this is

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 2>all about writing, dedicating yourself to this craft, and that

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>if you take care of that craft, it's going to

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>take care of you. And that was the biggest lesson,

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>like because I would you know, I did write that way,

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>but it was kind of like scattershot. I would write

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 2>and then not write and then just see what happens

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 2>on stage. And once I kind of got that from

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 2>him and saw like what little changes I mean he had.

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 2>He was, you know, one of the biggest stars in

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>the world at the time and he's sitting there like

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>spending a whole day on changing a sentence. You know.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>It was it was a huge lesson and it calmed

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 2>me down too, you know, I mean, for the for

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the craft, that was the biggest thing I learned from him.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 2>But just watching him, you know, just watching these guys,

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, everything's calculated, like everything is under like they're

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>trying to get control of every aspect of their life.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>The way they treat their family when you go home,

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, how much you mess around during the day,

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it was all that little stuff, how

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you treat people, all of it.

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I just took it all in professional. Yeah,

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>A pros pro.

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Pros pro one hundred percent, one hundred percent.

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 4>That's that's honestly that.

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember I went in the locker room one time

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and or my agent said, you know, don't be heard,

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>be seen. Mm hmm, you know, like, don't don't be heard,

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>just be seen and just try to collect as much

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>as you can from the guys that are in there

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the longest. Yeah, you know, And and that's and that

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>goes a long way. And especially nowadays, you know, I

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know how young comics are, but young athletes, you know,

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a complete different ball game.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, they've had a million followers since they were

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years old, and they did a backflip and the

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>end zone with their high school game. Yeah, and it's

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>on social you know what I mean. Guys come in

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.720
<v Speaker 1>naturally like they think there's something Yeah, when like everyone

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>did that in this lucker room.

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Right right exactly, and nobody, nobody.

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>It's it's kind of and I'm sure it's like that

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>for every older generation with the new generation. But yeah,

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>getting back to who are some of the younger comedians

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that you know, you let hang around you or you

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you kind of saw and and maybe you've helped.

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's uh, it's a lot. It becomes that thing

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>where like you don't And it's funny like when we

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 2>talk about those guys weren't out to teach us, like, yeah,

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really, but I was like, hey, do you

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>want to open for me? And just taking them around.

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>And then there's this guy Stavros Halkias, you know Stavros.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I just watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>He he uh, he opened for me. He was. I

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 2>was one of the first guys to take him on

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 2>the road. He was. I just found him at this

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>little Maryland club. I was just doing clubs at the time,

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 2>and they sent me a tape a YouTube link or

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>whatever to check out this chubby little guy from Baltimore,

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 2>and I took him under my wing and I just

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 2>he just did my radio show yesterday, awesome, and he

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 2>was talking about how much I helped him, you know,

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>during that time. And it's so funny because I just

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>loved him. I just thought he was funny. I met

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>my family, spent Father's Day with me and my dad once,

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and he was just he was just a super talented

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 2>guy who I liked to be around. And in my mind,

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>he went from opening for me and then I don't know,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>three years later he's on Netflix and he's like, dude,

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>that was twelve years ago. Like he quietly was hammering

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>and doing all the stuff he had to do, some

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>of it based off of, you know, me helping him

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 2>out and showing him stuff. And yes, so Stavros is

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>like the one I'm proud of right now.

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Young Bucks.

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 4>That's awesome.

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's I was an asshole in the locker room.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>But if I saw a kid that was really trying,

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>really working his ass off, yeah I was, you know,

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I had to help him out.

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:16.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you know, because I remember.

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Being that kid.

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, and I needed that.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>And there's guys that you know, looked out for me,

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and there's guys or assholes me. Yeah, you know, but

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I was more of an accounting I made you accountable, asshole.

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, you were a fucking slap dick, and he

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>thought you're ship isn't sinking the fucking room. I wasn't

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you. All right, dude, we we went before you.

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>We don't need you, you know, right. Yeah, So, you

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>know that's one thing that that you can always you know,

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you retire and your your guys' field is so much longer.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 4>You guys can do it for so long.

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>But the one thing even when you guys put it down,

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.959
<v Speaker 1>is that what you gave back to the game or

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the community or you know, that lives, that knowledge lives forever.

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, the things that you learn and maybe it

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>helps a younger guy and he you know what I mean. Yeah,

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like it's kind of like your dignity

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>to the for me, it's the game. For you, it's

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the yeah, yeah, being you know comic Yeah, I.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Mean, we're all part of this whole like lineage. You know,

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>it's the whole thing. Is like you're saying, like the

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 2>whole game like elevating, like it's all becoming. You know,

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 2>we're all just parts of this ongoing story.

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>And it's cool if you do things right, then people

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 2>still want to hear about you, you know, as you

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 2>as you are, like at a different stage your thing

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 2>is so insane though, because it's so it's shorter, but

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>it's so big. It's so if if you're as successful

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 2>as you were, it's such this massive.

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you don't get to enjoy it. I didn't

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>get to enjoy it as much. No, just because you're

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>so in it.

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 2>You're working so hard.

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're always having to get better and reinvent yourself.

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And after you win, then it gets even harder. And

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>every time you win, you just become a bigger and

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>bigger target. There's more and more film of you. You

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>have to constantly change your game and counter things and

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>evolve yourself with the clock the clock of your analysism.

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know.

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So, speaking of clock, let's turn back the clock and

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>we got a segment where we go back to January

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, nineteen ninety one, around the game, the number

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>one movie we talked pop culture Home Alone.

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that held up.

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>That held up, I mean it still holds up to

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>this day. Yeah, my kid loves it. Macaulay Culkin just

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>got a star I saw recently.

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with Catherine O'Hara. Yeah, it was cool seeing them together. Yeah,

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that's my daughter's favorite Christmas movie.

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 3>We were talking backstage here before this, I thought it

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 3>was a little bit weird. It's still number one movie

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:43.760
<v Speaker 3>in American We're.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>In January here that it was number one for them a.

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 3>Month after Christmas, you know what I mean, because I

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:49.240
<v Speaker 3>was thinking of it as a Christmas movie.

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Right when did it come out? That's a good question.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 3>He came out November sixteenth, So.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:54.439
<v Speaker 1>It had a nice wow.

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.879
<v Speaker 3>Whoa eighteen million dollar budget mid four hundred and seventy

0:38:57.920 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 3>eight mil Wow.

0:38:59.040 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yep, big horses.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Asses.

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 4>That was only I was young.

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>So when I heard a kid say ass, I was like, hell, yeah,

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>ko Joe PETI, I mean Marv. Well that was a

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking that was awesome. Kindergarten Cop came out around this time.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love the movie. We were just talking

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>about that with Lily the other night. I know, my

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>daughter was talking about Kindergarten Cop. We saw a picture

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:28.919
<v Speaker 1>of Arnold. She goes, oh, he's a police guy in that.

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Movie and a teacher.

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the wolves is basically Avatar. Yeah, yeah, Avatar

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:37.720
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties or the nineties.

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kevin Costner and then.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>The Godfather three.

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. Controversy is it good?

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it not.

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not, it's not.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the golf four started.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 4>That's always nice.

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I remember my buddy, my buddy from college, actually the

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>kid who had the season tickets to the Giants, who

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I watched this game with my buddy, Chris. He made

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 2>me go to dinner with him and he was telling me, Now,

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Chris is fat and loud and uh not the brightest guy.

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 2>And he took me to dinner to tell me that

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 2>if they if they ask him, he's going to go

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 2>fight in the Gulf War. No military background. You can

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 2>knock him over with a feather.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Were you guys thinking draft coming?

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I wasn't. He had some fantasy and he was

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>ready to go, and I was like, I was. I

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>admired his patriotism, but I was like, I think you're

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna be all right.

0:40:53.440 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm heating fucking lobster tiale wine. Let's go back

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>into the sports world. Baseball Hall of Famer, non Hall

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of famer Pete Rose. He got banned, Yeah, he got banned.

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>What's your thoughts on that? I love Pete Rose.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I love Pete Rose too. God, he's so dominant.

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 1>What was he thinking?

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know what is he bored?

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Was he bored? Like? What do you?

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Because he probably he's such a competitor.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 4>Is that what it is?

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I think? So?

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's a that's a sad one because he

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 1>was such a fucking tenacious, just just man out there.

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who fucking steals home and blows up Catcher

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 1>an All Star Game? Charlie Hustle Baby, Charlie hus NFL MVP.

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Joe Montana, that was my guy. My I had a

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.720
<v Speaker 1>dog named Montana. You did two dogs, Dwighton Montana.

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, he was dominant.

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean you guys, you probably hated him though.

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I saw LT take him out.

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he broke his back.

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I was at that game. It was in Giant Stadium.

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Was the first LT?

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 4>Was it someone else?

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it was who's the other linebacker.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 2>Carson O?

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Banks? I think it was Banks.

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 2>I thought LT took him out.

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 4>Someone broke his back, but he got folded.

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that that was like the downfall of.

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>What maybe confusing LT with thisman.

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>He did break thisman's leg.

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 2>He broke everybody. Yeah, he was on cocaine.

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Note to sell, do not do drugs.

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever see the water boy Bobby Bouche comes

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>to talk at LT's camp and he can't talk and

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 1>he goes and that's why you don't do drugs. And

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>it's coming from LT. He's the he know for.

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Mountains of Cocaine.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh and the Red sweep.

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>The A's in the World Series, man, the A's See

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you got Oakland, got a bad ticket? Yeah, Las Vegas,

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>here we come. I know you can't change of colors, man, Yeah,

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>silver and black would be tough. Yeah.

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Mowing down some casinos to build the stadium, that's.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's gonna be cool.

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 2>It would be cool.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's good, honestly. I mean, baseball in Vegas

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be fucking awesome. Yeah. For the hours, you

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>probably could have a slot machine at your fucking seat.

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true. You can play Keno on the big board.

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, bingo.

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>We got it all.

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Now, what was life like for you ninety one?

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Did you say ninety one? You were still in college. Yeah,

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm just leaving college. I'm living with my girlfriend who's

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 2>still in college. So we went a little north. We

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 2>picked a place. I was working in northern New Jersey

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 2>doing advertising, and she was still going to school. So

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 2>we got this little place, this little tiny place, and

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 2>we lived together there, and uh, yeah, I wasn't you know.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I was still acting. I think I went

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>back to school to act in something I did. I

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>did another play, and I was just kind of floundering.

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really I didn't really know what I was

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>up to. And I knew what I knew. I wanted

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 2>to be a comedian, but I had no idea, like, ye,

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I never I never met one. I'd never been to

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 2>a comedy club.

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 4>You couldn't google it.

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't google it, right, you couldn't YouTube it.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't find anything now.

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, insane. So I'm just kind of knocking around,

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 2>getting smoking weed and living with my girlfriend.

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:26.360
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break.

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0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 3>in Buffalo, Jim Kelly, Thurman, Thomas, Andre Reed, James Lofton.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was a it was a star star

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 3>cast that was a kind of favor.

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.839
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like the Buffalo Bills of two years ago

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 1>when they lost to the the Chiefs, because they had

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>their defense was like a top ten defense.

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had.

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 1>That's when Dave Ball was still there and they were

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>they were fucking they were lighting it up.

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't beat him at home.

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Largest margin of victory of any team in the NFL

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 3>this season, So, I mean they were they were the

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 3>odds on favorite here.

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You ever perform in Buffalo?

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:44.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Once?

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:46.399
<v Speaker 4>What were your thoughts on the city?

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go back.

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>That says it all Western New York Buffalo.

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>It is good. They're good people up there. I was

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:59.879
<v Speaker 2>just in Syracuse just similar, and you know, they don't

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 2>the sun for like nine months. No, but they're they're

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 2>still happy there.

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 1>It's it's they're not like they're more Midwest people to

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 1>me than they are East Coast.

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred.

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Like it's yeah, because a lot of we used to

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of at Kent State. A lot of

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 1>kids from Buffalo, Western New York would come to Kent

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>State and like these people are from like Midwest is

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:21.240
<v Speaker 1>completely different.

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any place that where the weather is that bad

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 2>for that long, Like you have to be good people,

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you do. Like people in Minnesota, Wisconsin. It's like something

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 2>the greatest people you'll meet.

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I would say, lake cold people you get on them coasts. Yeah,

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>those cold people are pretty cold.

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, the lake effect la. Yeah,

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 2>this was a stacked team is dangerous.

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Did it like you think two New York teams in

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 3>a Super Bowl? Did it feel like a like a

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 3>like was that.

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>A thing that not? Really?

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 2>No, that's not New York, not my New York.

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that answer.

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I was use.

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh man, two New York teams, Like, well,

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>someone say it's only one New York team.

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I would agree, right, and one Jersey team. I was

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to get that going, but never caught on.

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Never never.

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:21.959
<v Speaker 3>See what the giants are looking like the Giant seven

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Pro Bowlers. We lost Phil Simms in Week fifteen talking.

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>About the nineteen, the fourteen, and two niners. They were

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 1>thirteen and three.

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I know, but everyone was making the Niners out to

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 3>be like way better. Lost Phil Simms in Week fifteen

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 3>against the Bills. That's when Hosteller comes in and writes

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 3>the ship. Bill Belichick running the defense, Tom Coughlin coaching

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 3>the receivers. Both these guys would leave after the season.

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Fewest points allowed in the NFL, and I mean you

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 3>might as well. You can talk all the names, all

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 3>the Pro Bowlers, but it's LT's team, LT.

0:48:57.239 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Lt Man, oh Man, LT's team. But Otis Anderson. It

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:09.800
<v Speaker 2>was a beast Bavarovar, My god, just money.

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you did a show I did in South

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:15.839
<v Speaker 1>the NFL Phil Simms, Oh yeah, called mister Simms. Yeah,

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>he's a he's a firecracker. Yeah, he's a great dude.

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Here's some of some of those stories that you can

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>tell about lt Man. We're insane?

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. What was he like in the locker room?

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 4>What was LT?

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Lt? How are you getting ready next to that guy?

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I heard a story I won't tell by a source,

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 1>but I guess LT had like a snake or he

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>had something in his locker and he had like four

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>watches and he had a stack of all his checks

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>that weren't cash ship really and it was like his

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>whole it was like a season and a half. It

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>was probably half a million dollars of checks that he

0:49:56.040 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>had cash. Oh my god, that was lt like a

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>funny guy. Yeah, and of course it was Bill Parcells.

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean I totally buried the lead there.

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 3>And even Tom story also made me think of another

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Jersey high school football coach that was on this staff,

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 3>a young Charlie Weiss. Young Charlie Weiss a defensive assistant

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 3>on this staff or just a coaching assistant, I should say,

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 3>well was he?

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Pretty crazy Charlie Weiss. There's an office in our

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>facility called Charlie's office because it was his head. Yeah,

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>he left, it always was still Charlie's office like that.

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 2>The Giants used to stay at the Woocliffelake Hilton on

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 2>their home games because they didn't want everybody to stay

0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 2>at home, right, so you stay at the local hotel

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and the Woolffe Flake Hilton. It's where I worked as

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 2>a bus boy, and my girlfriend did room service and

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 2>she was a tiny little thing. She was like you know,

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.800
<v Speaker 2>five to four. We were in high school and she

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 2>did room service and she went to Pepper Johnson's room

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 2>to drop off a tray and he kind of made

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:07.399
<v Speaker 2>a pass at her. He is I think seven times

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 2>her size. He wasn't aggressive in any way. It wasn't

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.320
<v Speaker 2>anything like really, but he just like you, got a

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 2>little flirty with her, and it was just like, oh,

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I was just hit on by a mountain.

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Old coach. Pep, Pep coach me for a couple of years.

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>He did. Yeah. Pepper Johnson six three man, Yeah.

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Rachel was five four ninety eight pounds.

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's time for the Bounty wingman question. Let's do it.

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Bounty is everyone's favorite wingman because you can't have football

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>without wings, and you can't have wings without Bounty. So

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 1>this is our segment where because there's always such a

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 1>mess when you're eating wings, you have a nice Bounty

0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 1>paper towel.

0:51:57.960 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 4>We chew on a wing.

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I ask you a question, and even though we're on

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 1>this beautiful Swede couch, we don't worry because we have

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>paper towels.

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 2>All right, you have an eating with me.

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we all know Bounty helps clean up the

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>messiest moments. So what's your messiest moment on stage?

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>M One time when I was starting out. I was

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 2>working a club in New Jersey that's a good wing

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 2>and somebody threw a French fry at me and it

0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 2>had ketchup on it. And I was a young comic.

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't doing that great to begin with, and someone

0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 2>hit me with a French fry and I looked down

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and because it had ketchup on it, it just slowly

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 2>it like stuck to me and slowly went down my shirt.

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 2>And there's no one funny enough to come back from that.

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 2>You just have to leave the stage.

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't you wish you had a Bounty paper towel?

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's funny because when it happened, that's

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 2>what I was thinking.

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Were you well, color shirt white white?

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Wow, it was pretty embarrassing.

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Bounty and Wings my favorite duo. And that was the

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Bounty wing man question Jack, what about we said the

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 1>stage of his game? All right?

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 3>This was a rematch of the week fifteen game, which

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 3>the Bills won, knocked out Phil Simms. So the that

0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 3>was late in the season getting him out knocked him

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:34.680
<v Speaker 3>out Phil the rest of the season.

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Hated to see it.

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Hosteller comes in and leads away. After that, Buffalo's path

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 3>to the Super Bowl, beat Miami in a shootout against

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Dan Marino up in the snow there in western New York.

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Then they rolled the Raiders.

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Put up ninety five total points in those two games.

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 3>So the offense was just clicking, firing on all cylinders.

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 3>The Giants at a beach Chicago, and then as we

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 3>alluded to earlier, went out to San Francisco Candlestick and

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 3>beat Jules's Niners. I got that San Francisco tree, that

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:12.840
<v Speaker 3>fumble man, that darn fumble. Giants leaned on their power offense.

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Bill Parcells always preached a tough defense and a ball

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 3>control power offense. They could run the ball. I mean,

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the possession in these games are just insane. Yeah, as

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 3>we'll see in this when it's you know, sett in

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the Super Bowl record forty minutes of possession. It was

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:30.799
<v Speaker 3>great offense fors great defense. And it was the first

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl appearance for the Bills, and spoiler alerted only

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 3>got worse appearance by appearance.

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:37.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was doing research when we were watching

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>this game, and it reminded me of.

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Every Super Bowl I was in.

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Really, I mean, to a t let's try to control

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the clock, right, I tried to have possessions. Now some

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 1>of them, that was like our game plan going into

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:55.799
<v Speaker 1>some of them. You know, we played Atlanta and there

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:59.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking we're down twenty eight to three. That kind of

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 1>game plan goes up door. But you know that was

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:05.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the blueprint. Yeah, and I mean they

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 1>executed to a t because with an explosive offense like Buffalo,

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 1>like the only way I mean they were they were

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:13.279
<v Speaker 1>there the one offense in the league. The only way

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you stop them is you keep them off the goddamn

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>fucking field right eat up the clock. But you need

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:23.279
<v Speaker 1>to play situationally great for that to happen, because you

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 1>got to do well on third downs, to extend drives,

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 1>well in the red area, come away with points. And

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it was almost if you look at the game, the

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>deciding factor. You look at the Giants, they bend, they

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>bend because you see all the points that the Bills

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:40.800
<v Speaker 1>got in the first half. They had four field goals.

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>That's right of your offense. That's the game right there.

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:43.759
<v Speaker 1>That's why they lost.

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:46.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when you have that running game, you can

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:50.080
<v Speaker 2>just and it gets stronger as the game goes on.

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Demoralizes a team when you run the ball down their throat, demoralizes.

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm on offense and if we're getting ran on, this

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 1>is us all right, you know, because we want to

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:02.759
<v Speaker 1>get you out of your rhythm. You want to get

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 1>out there, and you got a fucking fifteen to twenty

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>minute drive.

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's tough.

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:09.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean that, it's really getting cold on the side.

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:10.240
<v Speaker 1>It's insane.

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 3>And then we're watching before this Bill was saying, like

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 3>you probably heard a million times in Super Bowls, he

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:17.800
<v Speaker 3>was gonna let Thurman Thomas do what Thurman Thomas was

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna do. But they're gonna take away anything deep down

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.400
<v Speaker 3>the field, play that cover to bring the safeties up,

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 3>and you got to go across the middle and fight out.

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 3>And you can take a little four yard catch, but

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:27.319
<v Speaker 3>you can take a pounding Yeah.

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:29.279
<v Speaker 1>It would dare you to catch it over the middle

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:30.959
<v Speaker 1>when you could actually kill people.

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Literally, I think I think I saw knife pulled that one.

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:37.840
<v Speaker 2>We saw the clip of hospital.

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 5>It's like buried into the ground and he has smelling

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:40.600
<v Speaker 5>salts to.

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, he's like, yeah, the three back in there

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't even miss it. Serious, Yeah, his head is just

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>garied in the turf. So there's no new York rivalry. This,

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>this is like New York, like New York, New York Now, no, no,

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>no sub series that.

0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Like The Raiders. Yeah, Upstate's very different from New York City.

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>What about uh different? What's your what's your thoughts of

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay? This was in Tampa Bay.

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 2>In Tampa. Yeah, no feeling at all. I'm even trying.

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah down there no response, Yeah a little bit. Yeah,

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 2>it's all right. You know, it's a it's a weird place.

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those like Tampa, Orlando.

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, what's the game day Schmorgesborg for a Super

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Bowl while you're watching this.

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 2>When I'm watching this, definitely remember definitely it was we

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 2>were deep into wings, tons and tons of wings. That's

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 2>wings and pizza and beer.

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 1>That was it.

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 2>There was not maybe a bag of chips that was

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<v Speaker 2>as fancy as we got.

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 4>What's the chip back then?

0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 2>It was probably ruffles ridges. Okay, maybe some maybe some

0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 2>supermarket onion.

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know. Now you're sitting there in the first

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 1>half and before the last the drive before half were

0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the Giants score. Yeah, like you guys are getting played

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the three. So you're sitting there dipping your chip, you're

0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 1>ruffling in the dip and you're like, are you stressed

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 1>at this point going in? Yeah, before that last drive

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 1>into half.

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:20.320
<v Speaker 2>There's no there's nothing about this day that ever lets

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you off the hook and makes you feel good. It's

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 2>always nerve wracking. It's always in the first And there

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.160
<v Speaker 2>was also, you know, going back and watching it, there

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:31.440
<v Speaker 2>was that Matt they you know, when the team starts,

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 2>breaks start happening, you think the mojo's going their way.

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 2>There was a couple like tip balls and things that

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 2>were just it seemed like this was gonna be Buffalo's night.

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.640
<v Speaker 2>It just seems like we're not getting any of the magic.

0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Then you're sitting in the back of your head. You're

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>sitting there, it's our backup quarterback.

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we don't even deserve to be here used to.

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 2>There's no way how's that's going to do it. And

0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:59.440
<v Speaker 2>these guys, Kelly and Thomas is just like Thomas was

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:00.800
<v Speaker 2>just but I.

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Mean, we watched an interview and Belichick was saying that

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>they were gonna let them run the ball.

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 4>They we didn't they we didn't want them.

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to throw the ball, which he's basically saying, we're

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna challenge him to have to put together these big drives.

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 4>And execute in the red area, right, So they were

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 4>they were cool with that.

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I think man nerve wracking. But like there's also though

0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 2>when you watch when you watch Norwood, yeah, his first

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>field goal kind of shanks. He makes it, but it

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 2>it kind of squibs to the right. It does. It's

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 2>not like looking back you can see like there was

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:39.640
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of something was up. This guy was not.

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 2>And he was one for like five over forty yards.

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Or forty five yards, Tom, you're on the money man, right,

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:50.600
<v Speaker 3>one for five on field goal attempts of forty more

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:53.240
<v Speaker 3>yards for grass fields forty.

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Yards forty or more. So, like I did not feel

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 2>that during the day. Yeah, I was not not like confident,

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<v Speaker 2>but looking back, like that first kick is likely over compensate.

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<v Speaker 1>That next one. Yeah, that's one of those ones where

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<v Speaker 1>you sneaked by huh and then you're like oh, and

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<v Speaker 1>then right before the next one you're like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that mechanic. It's like that golf shot, right. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Norwood was not like a great kicker by any mean. So,

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<v Speaker 3>like I know, hindsight's twenty twenty here, and everyone gives

1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:26.920
<v Speaker 3>him the rap of of being the goat. But I

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<v Speaker 3>mean he was twenty for twenty nine on the year,

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<v Speaker 3>sixty nine percent ratios.

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<v Speaker 4>How about those screw How good they were?

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<v Speaker 1>How cool were their face masks? Bring back the single bar,

1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 1>both kickers, bring back the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a bar down low so you can see

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<v Speaker 2>their whole face when they miss.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I got the serious, real serious question. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the Whitney Houston national anthem, national anthem in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of national anthems.

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<v Speaker 4>Of all time. It was insane.

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<v Speaker 2>No one comes close.

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<v Speaker 1>And Marvin Gay had a good one over at Marvin

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<v Speaker 1>and Houston at the All Star Game. All Up Star

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<v Speaker 1>Game was cool because he had a cool, like like

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<v Speaker 1>beat with it, and yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But this was stunny.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was also we're going to war. We were

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<v Speaker 2>going to war, and we didn't know what that meant.

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<v Speaker 2>And even though my buddy Chris, who's there eating wings

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<v Speaker 2>with me, was ready to enlist, Uh, it was heightened.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was so beautiful, so on top.

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<v Speaker 4>Of her game, she nailed it, nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Those what do they call those jets? Yeah, airplane, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was those it was like the new the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that couldn't be detected by radar.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, stealth bombers.

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<v Speaker 2>Stealth bombers. I hadn't seen that before. We're like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is happening right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that was the government kind of flexing over?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if anyone's watching the Super Bowl, we got these

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<v Speaker 1>cool new black things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're getting ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. We never seen is that the

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<v Speaker 1>first time we see the black bombers?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, so let me double check here, like what

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<v Speaker 1>is that? It's that star that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was so oh my god, she was so

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and just killed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>So halftime, new kids on the block, New kids on

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<v Speaker 2>the block are there? I don't remember that. I must

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<v Speaker 2>have been doing Bond hits during that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so at halftime, the Giants did the last shot

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<v Speaker 1>kind of situation. Gotta get that touchdown, got it down

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<v Speaker 1>to a one score game, score game, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>open up the drive with a ten minute drive, suck

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<v Speaker 1>off ten minutes of the third quarter, huge score, a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Go up, seventeen twelve, seventeen twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, take up?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, as you said, eat up almost eleven minutes o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Buffalo comes out, has a big drive to start

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth, they get up nineteen seventeen, We come down,

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<v Speaker 3>kick a field goal, go up twenty to nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>How much time? Minutes left? Seven?

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<v Speaker 3>So we got time to work with at this point, Tom,

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<v Speaker 3>Are you like, cause I'm like a pessimistic fan, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh too much time? We're done? Where are you staying

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<v Speaker 1>on the.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just waiting. You're like, they're going to kill us?

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<v Speaker 2>How are they going to do it? And are we

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it to ourselves? It's just the knee

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<v Speaker 2>jerk reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a Boston, New York fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, yeah, same.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets down all the way to this last kick.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk us through step FIRSTEP. If you remember how I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>That they had this impressive drive and Kelly, you know

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<v Speaker 2>a force. They started pretty deep, I believe, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe it started on their nine yard line and.

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<v Speaker 2>They put together this drive and I don't remember exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what like the last play putting him in position for

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<v Speaker 2>the kick.

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<v Speaker 3>Thurmon Thomas run got him down to about the thirty

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<v Speaker 3>and the minute to spike it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they had to spike it.

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<v Speaker 1>YEP.

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<v Speaker 2>So how much time was on when they started a drive?

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<v Speaker 4>When they started the drive.

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<v Speaker 3>There were so we had a couple of three and

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<v Speaker 3>outs here, So there were two minutes sixteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, from their own ten.

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<v Speaker 2>To sixteen and it doesn't feel like today's to sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the clock got eaten up right much more.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an explosive of the game, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to play old school football and it eats

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<v Speaker 2>up clock.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just yeah that all started like five years

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<v Speaker 1>ago with Patrick Mahomes and Allen right where you know

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<v Speaker 1>seven seconds was too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean this one you can actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit people right exactly. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's a two minute try. But they get all

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<v Speaker 2>the way down and uh man, I just remember I

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<v Speaker 2>remember the players like praying. They're just like huddled like giants.

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<v Speaker 2>The giants were just like on the sideline, like hugging

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<v Speaker 2>each other just nobody, nobody could look. And in Summerville,

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, in a shitty one bedroom apartment, no one

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<v Speaker 2>was in their seat. We were just lying on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground holding each other, not looking. I mean, just so insane,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna lose. Like there's no part of you

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<v Speaker 2>that thinks he's gonna miss it. Yeah, there's no part

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<v Speaker 2>You're just like, oh, they're making this so damn painful,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's just he's just gonna hit it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it goes up and just when did you see it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right away? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Right away? It was pretty quick. It was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like that much. I mean it really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was wide right, It was really wide right.

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<v Speaker 2>Just tad how I mean, there's nothing more upsetting to

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<v Speaker 2>watch than a kicker that blow it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sad. I feel bad for the kicker, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you know, I've been around the guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know they're they're usually in their own little world.

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<v Speaker 1>Some guys don't accept him asselflayer. They know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, you know they know that.

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<v Speaker 1>People think they only have one fucking job. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like one of those things where you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get mad. The guy works his ass off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. The operation. It's crazy. The aftermath of this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that kick where it goes the butterfly effect four

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<v Speaker 1>straight for Buffalo, which is completely different than what the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants do, and they win their second Super Bowl in

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<v Speaker 1>the franchise history. I mean it, h that was a

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<v Speaker 1>spiral that could have been it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let me ask you this personnel changes, why the

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<v Speaker 2>teams remain the teams?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why you know what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>The Patriots are the Patriots. I mean you have eras

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<v Speaker 2>where you're killing it, and but there's still something in

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<v Speaker 2>the dna of a team. Everyone's gone, coaches have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the building, is it just the what is

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<v Speaker 2>it that still like makes the Patriots the Patriots?

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<v Speaker 4>Well they're not that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I but you got Tom Brady and and Belichick had

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<v Speaker 1>a template and and he had the law, and Tom

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<v Speaker 1>went out and the best players in the team would

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<v Speaker 1>enforce the law. There's good nucleus of guys. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know when those that first team kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>out and there's different guys that kind of went into

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<v Speaker 1>that area. And but the one the two constants were

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<v Speaker 1>Tom and Bill, you know. And there's a lot a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of debate going on right about now about

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<v Speaker 1>all that right now, right but I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it was both.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean up until like the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants have would have like winning years and then they

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<v Speaker 2>would just suck and then it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Tough place to play. A lot of expectation, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of distraction. The media in New York is very tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we all know, you know, so it's it

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard. Yeah, it's it's not easy to win this league.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a quarterback league. And I mean this is

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<v Speaker 1>the time where you know, Buffalo had a really good

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and then the Giants did too, and he gets

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<v Speaker 1>hurt and they found a way. Yeah. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what depth, good defense, good situational football can do

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<v Speaker 1>for a team. It's cool to see two different styles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because he had the you know, it was almost you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the high flyer Buffalo Bills, Yeah, against the dirty, nasty

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<v Speaker 1>New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, in a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>We know what, you know what, we're gonna run.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we run. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The the Bills still haven't won a Super Bowl. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a team now, like when they're having a

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<v Speaker 2>rough yew this year, but yeah, you know, recently they've

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<v Speaker 2>been contending. And does the history play into it, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the Red Sox or the Cubs, like the

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<v Speaker 2>curse kind of like you hear in the media constantly

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<v Speaker 2>like there's something going on, Like, well, for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't a part of the first three Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 1>or the undefeated season. I was in the second group

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<v Speaker 1>of three, so it was god, it was uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there were different generations, so I always we always had

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about Teddy Bruski, William McGuinness, fucking Kevin Fall,

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Brown and how these guys made the plays, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you go out win a Super Bowl and.

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<v Speaker 4>You're still hearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, these guys did it two three, So then you

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<v Speaker 1>get competitive with it. They wanted to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know, it could steer you different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you do think about history.

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<v Speaker 4>It is in your head though, you know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was in our head.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in my head. I can't speak for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but for me, that motivated me. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>like them, and I was sick of hearing about them.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hear about us. Yeah, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>they were I mean, they were the first to do it. Yeah,

1:09:54.720 --> 1:09:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and it was they, you know, it was It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>when everyone knows about you. It was about him knows

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<v Speaker 1>about us because of them, so everyone hated us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Parcells went on to retire after this year.

1:10:10.560 --> 1:10:13.760
<v Speaker 3>His first retirement that was a big fallout, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Bill even going to take the Browns head coaching job,

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<v Speaker 3>another cursed franchise, and Tom Coughlin took over BC as

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<v Speaker 3>a head coach. So those were kind of the big

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<v Speaker 3>the big departures brain drain from the Giants coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick goes to the Browns.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you secretly wish Belichick comes back to the Giants?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I never hated on

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots. It was very It was very much because

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<v Speaker 2>of him, and also uh uh took some of the

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<v Speaker 2>staff also, Crenell orc Yeah, and I love those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So you knew that discipline that kind of like we

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<v Speaker 2>always carried it like is Giant fans, Like we were

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<v Speaker 2>old school disciplined, real like legit football that it was

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<v Speaker 2>up in New England. I couldn't I admired it. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't hate on it.

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<v Speaker 1>You could always tell when we were in New York

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<v Speaker 1>playing against the Giants. He loved the Giants. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>could just tell. I mean it was, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of his start. Yeah, you know how he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about those teams, how he talked about LT. Pepper Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Sims and the stories of all those, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 4>He loved the Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, yeah, they have kind of similar DNA.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess because of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this ninety one defense one of the greatest of

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<v Speaker 1>all time? The greatest of all time or one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great everyone throws the eighty five bears. No, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really get the the cred really if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, who the Giants Giants ninety one defense here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you just asking that question best of

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<v Speaker 2>all times, Like I didn't never even thought of them

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<v Speaker 2>in that term. Carson was gone.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Banks and LT.

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<v Speaker 1>YEP and Pep Yep and Steve Diassi.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think man if LT is under LT automatically

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<v Speaker 3>makes some more.

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<v Speaker 1>People just think he rushed the pastor that did did everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I remember what I remember Bill would throw

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<v Speaker 1>on we would we would struggle with There's like this

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<v Speaker 1>trap where they do this double pool and they still

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<v Speaker 1>run the same damn plays, you know and nowadays back then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the defensive end is supposed to you gotta set

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<v Speaker 1>the edge, but it's hard because you have two guys

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<v Speaker 1>and they can pop through and they can get through.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta really blow it up. But you can't

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<v Speaker 1>overblow it up because they can bounce it. Because you're

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<v Speaker 1>the force or you're the you know, you're the edge,

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<v Speaker 1>and if the edge is broken, then there's no help.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were struggling with this, so he brought back

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<v Speaker 1>this one play of LT blew up both the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>poolers and tackled the guy right away. He's like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is how you fucking do it. This guy. Watch him.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone just thinks, you know, yeah, we'll just we'll just

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<v Speaker 2>be LT.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Now would you rather lose three Super Bowls in a

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<v Speaker 1>row or not make it to a Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>Not make it? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I gotta lose three? You do? Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're as a fan, not as a player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah what about as a player?

1:13:21.600 --> 1:13:24.240
<v Speaker 1>As a player, you gotta go. I want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta at least play in the show. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>may not win the show, but you're still you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>See where it stacks up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why you're a great athlete. And I tell

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<v Speaker 2>jokes about my dogs because I would I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna hurt. That's gonna hurt so much. Why don't

1:13:49.120 --> 1:13:53.320
<v Speaker 2>we just not you just have it in you, You're

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<v Speaker 2>just ah. But I mean, what do you think Bill's

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<v Speaker 2>fans say.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know they're they're in until one right now? Yeah, Jackie,

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<v Speaker 1>we have any leftovers.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a pretty clean up stod, but we do

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<v Speaker 3>have a leftover question that we we love to throw

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<v Speaker 3>out to everybody. Tom, we love great locker room stories,

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<v Speaker 3>so we were wondering, do you have any great green

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<v Speaker 3>room stories from touring with Seinfeld back in the heyday?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Yeah, This was a little later and he was

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<v Speaker 2>back playing the Beacon, and he's gonna play the Beacon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to open for him, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to like Columbus, Ohio or something the next day. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Beacon has very small tights and old building, tight

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<v Speaker 2>dressing rooms. You gotta take this little elevator up to

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<v Speaker 2>each floor so that I'm there early, and I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>the little green room and I'm waiting for Jerry, and

1:14:55.200 --> 1:14:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I figure out, well, it's been a while and I

1:14:57.960 --> 1:14:59.679
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen him in a bit, so I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna not a big thing, but just play

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<v Speaker 2>a little joke that I fell asleep. He's so late

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<v Speaker 2>that I fell asleep. So I like loose my tie

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<v Speaker 2>and undo my belt and I'm just kick back on

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<v Speaker 2>this couch. I hear the elevator coming up, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like kind of like, look like I'm drooling on myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And the elevator opens up and I hear Jerry go oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I open my eyes. It's Jerry Seinfeld, Steve Martin,

1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:36.120
<v Speaker 2>and Tom Hanks. I'm like my coach with parcels.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, hey, I'm just doing a bit. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just being funny. And they're like, hey, nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you guys need to ride home.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone I'm going I'm going downtown. Everybody want to share

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<v Speaker 2>a cab. It was pretty humiliating. I meant the guy job.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they come any.

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<v Speaker 2>Sleepy, very funny, Tom, very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's score the game. The name of the game

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<v Speaker 1>is wide right. We all know we play call off

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and we used to have a sign where

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have the picture of it, like on our tip sheets.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd have a tip sheet before each game, give your reminders,

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<v Speaker 1>and we used to have a play call wide right,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the reminder tip sheet it was the picture

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<v Speaker 1>of the wide right. Oh really yeah, we'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>back after this quick break. Score the game presented by

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<v Speaker 1>win Bet. This is a segment where we score our

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<v Speaker 1>game and see where this specific game stands in like

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<v Speaker 1>all our games that we've done, so it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Steaks zero to ten decimals. Okay, score the stakes of

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<v Speaker 1>this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Game the steaks. Uh, can it get any higher?

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<v Speaker 4>Camp?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so whatever?

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<v Speaker 4>The max is ten, ten, ten for all the marbles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we got ten star power.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, super Bowl, super Bowl and both sides of stars.

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<v Speaker 5>We're just throwing tens out for everything. There's different levels

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<v Speaker 5>of super Bowls, right, like a back to back super

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<v Speaker 5>Bowl or like an undefeated season super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like, it's fine, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're saying too many tens.

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<v Speaker 5>We've been just handing out ten. We handed out of

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<v Speaker 5>ten to game five of an NBA Finals, Like, what

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<v Speaker 5>are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Well, you're well, you're right, I mean, to his point, Hostetler,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got to drop us a couple points. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a star.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a so that steaks are that star power

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<v Speaker 1>because there is a star power, stakes are super high.

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<v Speaker 2>I think staks are.

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<v Speaker 4>Ten alright star power, uh star pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wewight war she.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she wasn't playing football, was she? All?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Nine point eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Gameplay time sucking Giants against the high flyer Buffalo Bills

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<v Speaker 1>that couldn't score in the red area.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, you know, it's kind of like when

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<v Speaker 2>the Devils would win in the NHL, like they were

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<v Speaker 2>just dominant but so boring to watch. You know, is

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<v Speaker 2>this gameplay like the game plan or the entertaining part

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<v Speaker 2>of watching it?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, like just the gameplay of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>The top play was.

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<v Speaker 3>A miss kick by the way too, just to put

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<v Speaker 3>that in firm reference, I was leaning to entertainment value.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a grind it was upsetting. I was tense

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<v Speaker 2>the whole time. Probably smoked way too much weed. Gameplay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of a grindy, dirty game, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>a seven seven.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's fair, that's fair. The name of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>wide right, If you ask anyone wide right, people know

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<v Speaker 1>this game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah for sure, so one zero out of ten, wide right?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does it? Where does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Go. I would say ten except for your producer, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Ky.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, this is up there for all time. This games

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<v Speaker 3>was named this is thriller in Manila level like I

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<v Speaker 3>love wide right? Everyone you say, and everyone knows it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone, everyone knows boys eight point ninety five. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>see some of the games we've done with some of

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<v Speaker 1>the people. Where does the stack up? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, it's up there.

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<v Speaker 3>We were right there in the fourth spot, right below

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<v Speaker 3>the Yankees Red Sox two thousand and four alc Yes, sorry, Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that the Yeah? That was not one for a

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<v Speaker 1>New Yorker.

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<v Speaker 2>Once that, once the the mitt, the catcher's mitt winning

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<v Speaker 2>a Rod's face, it was over. Yeah. From there, I

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<v Speaker 2>started thinking about football.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, good old ver Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>The captain for Dugo's going to the Yanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it?

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<v Speaker 1>Man. Well, I had a blast with this, Tom so great.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we did we miss anything about this game? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my buddy didn't have to go to war that

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and he got his victory pieces. So not

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<v Speaker 2>only was it a great game, not only was it

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<v Speaker 2>fun to talk about, but in a way we saved

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<v Speaker 2>his life.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way he did. No, we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We you and me.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I was four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm giving you credit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>You have anything to plug other than we got what

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<v Speaker 1>what is? Uh? He just finished his stand up tour.

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<v Speaker 4>You have special The next tour is starting to roll.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Just go to Tom Papa on All On All Things

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll find me Instagram, my website, my mailbox.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great name. To Charlotte, January twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 4>It is come on the stand up, take your shirt

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<v Speaker 4>twisted around.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is really great.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. So cool.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to take a picture. I gotta show, definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta show Matt Damon who I was hanging with.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Damon. Yeah, you got to tell him the story

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<v Speaker 1>about where I was randomly riding my bike in Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>and he lives there.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess. I saw Ranon, like, hey man, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, yeah, is edel Man. He's it was cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've met up a couple of times. He's a sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 1>But at flack. On the other hand, you tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, yeah, really, you're gonna let him have it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell him anyway, we got some beef.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone who want to see a real batman, Come tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. That was an awesome episode. Tom Papa, that was

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<v Speaker 1>my Jerry Seinfeld for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, id, I got a little Seinfeld in there.

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<v Speaker 3>What's to deal with this guy? His name's Papa, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's not my father? That was That'd be a Seinfeld bit,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't he He'd be like, yeah, I write that down.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going in the special.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was confused. He said his name was Tom Papa,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't have a kid. What's to do? No?

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<v Speaker 1>He was awesome though. That was sick.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Was good to hear his his come up and and

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<v Speaker 1>to hear how he kind of used a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that athlete mentality in his stand up career.

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<v Speaker 3>And what was no chicks, no partying, bro, just writing,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean spiral notebooks.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, bro, day's off, Jack? I know, no days

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<v Speaker 1>off Jack. I'm trying to party and have fun. Man

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<v Speaker 1>in the room, It'll come. What did Seinfeld to say?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta like, yeah, you gotta do good at invest

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<v Speaker 1>in the craft, and then the Craft will invest.

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<v Speaker 4>And give you a reward or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something lame like that some time.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was fun, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to continue to watch him and I

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to seeing his new stand up Yeah for real.

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<v Speaker 3>In honor of the wide right game, one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most painful endings in sports history, especially for the folks

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<v Speaker 3>up in Buffalo, we're gonna talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 3>most painful miss kicks or just botched field goals to

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<v Speaker 3>end games in.

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<v Speaker 1>All of football, all the football. Put together a little

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<v Speaker 1>top five. What do you think can we come to

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<v Speaker 1>a consensus? You, me and Kyler. Let's do it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Starting off the kick six. You got the kick six

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<v Speaker 3>Bama and Auburn. You got the double doink Eagles and Bears.

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<v Speaker 3>You got the Romo Botch snap not even a missfield

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<v Speaker 3>looks to Botch snap in that playoff game against the Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you got I mean, I guess we'll lump

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<v Speaker 3>these all together. It's almost got to be one for me.

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<v Speaker 3>When you can, you can put it like a godfather.

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<v Speaker 3>You got wide right one wide right to those Florida

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<v Speaker 3>State Miami ones. I don't know those are tough.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a couple, we got I think in Florida

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<v Speaker 1>State Miami. What was that? That's a rivalry game. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a rivalry game. So but it's and it's also it's college, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's college you where do you put them on a

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<v Speaker 1>lower scale? These kids are pro kickers. Like, that's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough for a college Like you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>This kid probably you're doing a halftime thing where the

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<v Speaker 1>coach had an audition for fucking some kickoff thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden they signed them and they hit

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<v Speaker 1>the video team giving them a scholarship. Kidding, he ain't

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<v Speaker 1>getting two million dollars a kick?

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<v Speaker 2>What about the.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you remember that there's a regular season game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the Saints maybe Jags where there

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<v Speaker 1>was a full on.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a lateral kickoff situation with like no time left

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<v Speaker 5>and they actually had it work like an annex section

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<v Speaker 5>of Puerto Rico, and it actually worked, and then they

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<v Speaker 5>missed the extra point to lose the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually they scored a touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me look at one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the Will LUTs one from twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like Carney was, yeah, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that sits in berries on killing

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<v Speaker 1>the kicker after a game losing kick, because the game's

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<v Speaker 1>not lost or won on that kick. There's about fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty other plays that came down to spoken like

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<v Speaker 1>a true teamer. You know, I feel for my guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, Steve Goskowski big fault. Those are my guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Kyler alluded to the Rivers City Relay got a name?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we?

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<v Speaker 4>River City?

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<v Speaker 3>Two thousand and three, The Jags were leading twenty to thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>The Saints used three laterals to score a touchdown his

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<v Speaker 3>time expired in regulation. However, New Orleans kicker John Carney

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<v Speaker 3>missed the ensuing extra point and would have sent the

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<v Speaker 3>game into overtime, but instead the Jags' short that was

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<v Speaker 3>pre moving astree r p a t Yeah, prior to

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<v Speaker 3>making it a football play, as Bill would say.

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<v Speaker 2>That hurts, That hurts River City Relay.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you say?

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<v Speaker 4>Who would say?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 4>Bill?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill?

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<v Speaker 3>Because he said make it a football play, right, That's

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<v Speaker 3>why he was the one. I think that lobbied to

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<v Speaker 3>move the extra point back. It's good, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it makes it more interesting. I think that was a

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<v Speaker 3>Bill term, make this a football play.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, so wide rights.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the last college putting that fifth?

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<v Speaker 4>What about this wide right? Is this one in here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one's in here. I think this might be

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<v Speaker 1>number one. Honestly. The butterfly effect Super Bowl, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the kick six.

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<v Speaker 5>The kick six is wild because usually a miskick is

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<v Speaker 5>just like sadness, but like the kick six, the sadness

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<v Speaker 5>led to a great football play.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that changed play calling for that situation one

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<v Speaker 1>second left because if you if you, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, and that's why they do that

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<v Speaker 1>on those extra long ones. They put those fast guys

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<v Speaker 1>back there because you got all linemen on there for

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<v Speaker 1>the kickoff or for the field goal team. It's fucking travesty.

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<v Speaker 4>You're done.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great gamble. That's gotta be.

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<v Speaker 4>That's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's put we got wide right at one three, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you gotta go. Speaking of butterfly effect, the Romo

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<v Speaker 3>bought Snap, I mean Dallas hadn't won a playoff game since.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they won one last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they pardon me, double doing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, oh, that's extra heartbreaking because you got your

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<v Speaker 5>heartbroken twice.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the Eagles went on to win that year.

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<v Speaker 3>They did yeah, they beat beat the Pats right that year?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, no, no, no, no, that was to repeat.

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<v Speaker 5>That was to repeat they won the year before.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay, yeah yeah. So then it goes three,

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<v Speaker 1>Romo doubled like four. You think Romo is more heartbreaking

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<v Speaker 1>or are you going one is the most heartbreaking? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>You think Romo is more heartbreaking than the double drink?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, this is Dallas Cowboys. Okay, okay, when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you have that star in your helmet, there's a different standard. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're America's team.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I feel like I just called called into

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry's office when I signed with the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am eating a fucking egg McMuffin with

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<v Speaker 1>salt and pepper and extra ketchup on it. Isn't that

1:28:30.760 --> 1:28:35.479
<v Speaker 1>what he's eating? Even salting down an egg McMuffin. I'm

1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>like that man like salt.

1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:38.679
<v Speaker 3>Liberal with the salt brother hurt. What's the sodium levels

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<v Speaker 3>through the roof?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the fifth?

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<v Speaker 4>One?

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth? Let's go after su Miami wide right one through five?

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<v Speaker 1>Five for the Boys River City? I mean we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know by it. And then this is that was It's

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<v Speaker 1>a regular season game.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything related to Jacksonville. Call me ring No, I mean Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Jacksonville a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Our final rankings ready, yeah, wide Rite number one, kick six,

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<v Speaker 3>number two, Romobot snap against the Seahawks, number three, fourth,

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<v Speaker 3>the double doing the number five wide right series.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good list.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's painful. What do you guys think? I want?

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<v Speaker 1>We want to hear in the comment section below, blow

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<v Speaker 1>us up. I want to hear what you guy. I

1:29:22.720 --> 1:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>want to hear arguments. I want to hear replies. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see it one episode. Thanks again to Tom Papa for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on it. Just I like saying his name.

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<v Speaker 4>It reminds me of Papa Smurf.

1:29:34.439 --> 1:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Me to John Popper from The Blues Traveler. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good comic name. Good stage name it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's been another episode of Games with Names, presented

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