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Speaker 1: the host of Serious XM's What a Joke? Tom Papa

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Speaker 1: and Studio Jack.

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Speaker 2: Can you op me with my math phone?

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Speaker 1: We're no, I'm not giving you the answers.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm in the bathroom on YouTube? How do you

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Speaker 1: We are covering Super Bowl twenty five, the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: versus the legendary New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a stacked team.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever perform in Buffalo?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the city.

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Speaker 2: I didn't go back this game watching my tiny apartment

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Speaker 2: on this tiny TV. It's just so memorable, and.

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Speaker 1: It reminded me of every super Bowl I was in.

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Speaker 2: It seemed like this was gonna be Buffalo's night.

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Speaker 1: It gets down all the way to those last kick.

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Speaker 2: No one was in their seat. We were just lying

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Speaker 2: on the ground, holding each other, not looking just so insane.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna lose, like there's no part of you that

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Speaker 2: thinks he's gonna miss it?

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Speaker 1: No good, Wide Right. Games with Names is a production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names, presented by win Bet.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are talking Super Bowl twenty five.

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Speaker 1: That is right, folks, and I'm not saying that is right.

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Speaker 1: That is wide right, the wide right game with the

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Speaker 1: Giants versus the Buffalo Bills. And we speak with old

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Speaker 1: Tom Poppa. It was good to get his perspective. Lifelong

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Speaker 1: Giants fan had some awesome stories. We get into his

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Speaker 1: New York sports fandom. We get into his old green

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Speaker 1: room stories with Jerry Seinfeld, the guy who may have

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Speaker 1: put him under his arm. I think so.

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Speaker 3: He said he wrote those coattails to the top.

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Speaker 1: He said he wrote them to the top. Can't blame him.

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Speaker 1: Then to the tippity tippity top. Not a bad set

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Speaker 1: of cotails ride and you can't talk New York Giants

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, Tampa Stadium, Tampa, Florida.

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Speaker 2: The New York Football Giants are leading the Bills twenty

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Speaker 1: With eight seconds left, Scott Norwood lines up for the

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Speaker 1: E a sports that was awesome. Welcome to Games with Names,

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Speaker 1: present to buy when bet today. We have Tom Papa

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Speaker 1: and studio legendary comedian. I'm a huge fan his latest book,

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Speaker 1: We're All in It Together, So Make Room is out now.

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Speaker 1: He's the host of serious XMS what a joke and

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Speaker 1: catch him on a tour in a city near you. Tom,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming to the studio.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: No, and I got to introduce you to Jack and Kyler.

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Speaker 4: They're part of our almost kids.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that keep this thing going. You know,

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Speaker 2: You know I never added up. Yeah, because that's my

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Speaker 1: That life's gotta be tough. I mean I became real

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Speaker 1: the matchup of Super Bowl twenty five between the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: And I would always bring that up to Belichick. Yoh really,

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Speaker 1: You guys, fast team, they got dudes, hit him, you

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, dude, you guys won you want it all? Right?

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Speaker 2: How long did it take you to be able to

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Speaker 4: Seven years?

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Speaker 1: And no, but this is this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: You thought about you were you I didn't come out.

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Speaker 2: He was so humiliated. He's like, what did I do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I can only imagine those like those

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Speaker 1: What do you My coach was like, oh.

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Speaker 4: I can see him.

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Speaker 1: that just through how I know Bill and I've seen

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Speaker 4: I can see how.

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Speaker 2: It's like five thousand people for a high school game,

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Speaker 2: all in hats. And I was very tough and he

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Speaker 4: Coach.

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Speaker 2: He was tough, he wouldn't he not. Yeah, he was tough,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't like the coaches that get like abusive,

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Speaker 2: You'd be like, uh, you know, you'd shake. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: Did that?

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Speaker 1: I coach my whole life?

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Speaker 1: I mean there's some some funny documentary stuff out there.

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Speaker 4: My dad was just very tough on.

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Speaker 1: Me, and I was like, I was like a wild kid,

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Speaker 1: I was going to challenge you back. Yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: That, right right.

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Speaker 4: He was tough on me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and then you had to be broken

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Speaker 1: He had to break me, Yeah, had to break me,

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to head butt them and stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's great. I think I had the opposite, Like my

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Speaker 2: I mean overall, did you think the experience of having

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be where I'm at without it.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah it was tough, but I had a great life. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's the best. Yeah, it's a cool thing. Like when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys get to last. You guys get to

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Speaker 1: Will be right back after this quick break. No, you

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Speaker 2: Like seventh grade. Seventh Yeah, like seventh grade, I got.

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Speaker 2: And now you're my boss, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: They're low, that's right. So I but so I always knew,

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Speaker 1: What's cool? Rider?

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Speaker 2: all the Eagle fans. Yeah. And the writer I always

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00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: say is uh. Its distinction is that it's down the

443
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: road from Princeton. Yeah, you know, it's not the best school,

444
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: but it was. It was good to me, and they

445
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: had a theater department and no football. So I went

446
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: there to get my degree.

447
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: Princeton it's like the birthplace of football, Yeah, isn't it?

448
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: Princeton Yale? I think you're right first football game ever?

449
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: Was it? Rutgers Rutgers? Rutgers Rutgers in Princeton, Princeton Rutgers

450
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: the first football game ever?

451
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know Rutgers was that old.

452
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: So you went, you go to writer any did you

453
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: did you have any other comedians with you? No, You're

454
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: the only one there anyone else in the class? Or

455
00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: how does that work?

456
00:22:59,520 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: In?

457
00:22:59,720 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: Like?

458
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 2: You were there to study communications. The agreement was that

459
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: I would get a degree, and I think it was

460
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: it was smart because I, you know, meet a lot

461
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: of comedians that don't know how to make a phone call,

462
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like it was it was

463
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: a good deal. And I just dove into the theater.

464
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 2: I was just in all the plays and I just

465
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: took up. I did all my athletics stuff went into theater.

466
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: So I was just going balls out, getting the leads

467
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: in the plays and doing whatever I could. And then

468
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: as soon as that I graduated, I went to New

469
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: York or like, I lived in Jersey with my girlfriend

470
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: during this game and then moved closer to the city

471
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: and then started doing open mics and stuff, and then

472
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: that was it. On June twelfth, nineteen ninety three, it

473
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: was my first stand up three. Yeah.

474
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 4: You just you get up. You're done with school.

475
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, got some good parts, got some experience, got to

476
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: meet some good people, hone down some skills. All right,

477
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to New York City. Let's fucking try it out.

478
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: Let's go do it. Let's go do it. Yeah, And that's.

479
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: That's you gotta have some faith in yourself, like anyone

480
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: that has a good story, right, I mean all the

481
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: I've been blessed, unfortunate enough to meet so many different

482
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: people in so many different fields. Yeah, and it's about

483
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: taking that shot. Yeah, you know, and and believing in yourself.

484
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: That is the common thing that goes into all the stories. Yeah,

485
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: and it's they're in different ways, but it's it's always

486
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: good to hear that, you know.

487
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: But like you like, looking back and you tell the story,

488
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, it seems like, okay, then I

489
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: win for it. But it just once the idea gets

490
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 2: in your brain, you're just like it's just you. Yeah,

491
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: You're just you don't even think of it, like right,

492
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: like I'm making five dollars a night doing stand up.

493
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: In the beginning, I thought it was the greatest thing ever. Yeah,

494
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: like now this version, thinking back on that is like,

495
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: how did you survive?

496
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: I put it puts you in perspective, sure, just because

497
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: you know what it took to get to where you're at.

498
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know all those little things. Yeah, but

499
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: it's almost like you can't stop it, like what you

500
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: were that you had to be that.

501
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

502
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: And I also I'm very thankful because a lot of people,

503
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: you know, like my passion just so happened to like

504
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: go with my talent. You know, a lot of people

505
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: have a passion for something, but they don't they're not

506
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: necessarily and that's something. They're talent field or they're talented

507
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: as something, but they don't love it, you know, and

508
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's the tough you know, that's tough.

509
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they never find it.

510
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: They never find it. You're on a search for something.

511
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: So so how did at what age were you like, Oh,

512
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: I'm just not going to give this up.

513
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: I was in a different situation where I was always

514
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: like having to prove myself, Like I always thought I

515
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: was the best dude on the field, and I always

516
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: like I literally thought that anytime I stepped off field.

517
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: But like it was always oh there's this guy and

518
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: then you're not that big, right, and I always ball out.

519
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: There's always an excuse for why there was someone else,

520
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: and like so it kind of manipulated my mind not

521
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: to think.

522
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: Of like the future future.

523
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: I was like always so focused on like fuck that

524
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: You're always working at what was on your plate, and

525
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: every step of the way, you know there was something

526
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: like that. You know, it wasn't enough to play college quarterback,

527
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: this didn't have a position in the pros. So there's

528
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: always something that like tricked my mind into the competition

529
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: mode where you thought about it, but it gave you

530
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: a a direction.

531
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: To go right just knocking them out as you go

532
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: along trying.

533
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you get knocked out a lot more.

534
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: You can knock them out. You know, you're out in

535
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: New York, you're out, fresh out of college and you're

536
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: hitting these clubs. Life is great, probably in New York nineties,

537
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: probably crazy fun.

538
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: When did when did you.

539
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: First have like your first break or or like where

540
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: someone saw you or you met a friend, or you're

541
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: in a comedy club with someone and they you know,

542
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: like there's always that one thing, Yeah, where like that's

543
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: when you started really making it.

544
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh. I always say that my biggest break

545
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: was when I met Seinfeld.

546
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

547
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he came into the clubs after his show

548
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: was done, and there's this one two day, two night

549
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: period where I was on stage when he came to check.

550
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: He was just he came back and he was just

551
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: checking out the scene before he went up again. Yeah,

552
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: he was just checking out the club and seeing what

553
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: it was all about. And I was on stage two

554
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: nights in a row. I saw him walk in. While

555
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 2: I was on stage, you could see through the window

556
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: at Stand Up New York in the Upper West Side,

557
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: and I saw him come in and uh, Like this

558
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: second night, I was like through new stuffs, show him

559
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: that I had other stuff, and I came off and

560
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: he's like, you're really funny. I was like, and you

561
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: just started a conversation at the bar, and I grabbed

562
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: onto his coattails and didn't let go. And when he

563
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: was he was so huge at that moment, and him

564
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: giving me his endorsement just made everybody else, oh yeah,

565
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: let's stick another look at Tom. Because at the time

566
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: I was like trying to break into late night was

567
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: I had some little stuff, but I was like hadn't

568
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: really broken through and the validation I got from other

569
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: people from his endorsement, and also then he took me

570
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: on tour with him, just I just soaked it in

571
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: like a sponge. He worked the way that I worked.

572
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: He wasn't a comedian that was just getting high and drinking.

573
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: I rode all the time. I was really dedicated to

574
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: like this craft of it. But it wasn't until I

575
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: met him that it validated that my way of working

576
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: was a way to work. So I just I learned

577
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: how to carry yourself as a comedian, as a man,

578
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: as a I just got so much from him that

579
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: that was really the biggest break.

580
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: What makes what makes Seinfeld so special? What are some

581
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: of the things that he may have taught you as

582
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: a lesson or some of the things you just picked up,

583
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: like because you said you prepare like him? Yeah, Like

584
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: what are it like me being around Tom Brady? Like

585
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: I learned on how to take care of like without

586
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: him saying ship if you just if you, if you're

587
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be around someone who's succeeded in your

588
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: your field, you could just pick things up and I

589
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 1: would take like how he would take care of his body,

590
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, compartmentalizing like life and you know, professional like

591
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: there are little things you what were some of the

592
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: things you learned from see what made him special?

593
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there's so much. I mean, they're not there,

594
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: they're not trying to teach you. But if you want

595
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: to learn, just hang around these guys and you really

596
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: start picking it all up.

597
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: Like if I allow you to hang around, they're teaching you.

598
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of yea. Yeah, good, that's what I

599
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: always That's how I Yeah, when when like a stud, Yeah,

600
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: because I would always try to. I always hung around

601
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: with the studs of the team or other players when

602
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: there's like training areas in the off season. I see

603
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: where Larry Fitzgerald was.

604
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: I wanted to be around him.

605
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I want to see what the fuck he was doing.

606
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Larry Fitzgerald. I have a funny quick story.

607
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: I got to play in the All Star Game for

608
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball. You know they do the the

609
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: celebrity and old timers. I guess. So I got to

610
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: play on the softball team and I had this TV

611
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: show at the time, and I got to do it,

612
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: and we played in Arizona, and I'm in the outfield

613
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: and I'm freaking out. You know, I don't really play baseball,

614
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: but I'm in my little uniform. That Bernie Williams locker

615
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: room is next to mine, and I'm all like freaked out.

616
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: And if it's Gerald gets up and smacks one right

617
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: to me and I come running in and I catch

618
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: it and I'm like so excited, and the whole place

619
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: boos me because it's his hometown.

620
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, she and that ball come off a

621
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: bat when you haven't seen it in a while and

622
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: having to judge it that little thing you probably show,

623
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah I got it, I did it.

624
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's crazy. So that's a great way to

625
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: put it, though, if they let you hang around, it

626
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: really is. So I learned. The biggest thing was that

627
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: I learned that comedy is this you're funny, and it's

628
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: so kind of it's kind of like this wild bull.

629
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: It's like, what is this thing? Like you just kind

630
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: of like get up and guys. People do it in

631
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways. And the thing I learned

632
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: from him was that, no, this is a craft and

633
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: you can get better at it, but you got to

634
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: work your ass off to get better at it. And

635
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: you got to really dedicate the time and put it

636
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: in and write all the time and get up on

637
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: stage all the time and go back to work. And

638
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: we're not here to hang out and chase girls and

639
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: get drunk. We're here to get good. So this is

640
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: all about writing, dedicating yourself to this craft, and that

641
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: if you take care of that craft, it's going to

642
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: take care of you. And that was the biggest lesson,

643
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: like because I would you know, I did write that way,

644
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: but it was kind of like scattershot. I would write

645
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: and then not write and then just see what happens

646
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: on stage. And once I kind of got that from

647
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: him and saw like what little changes I mean he had.

648
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: He was, you know, one of the biggest stars in

649
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: the world at the time and he's sitting there like

650
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: spending a whole day on changing a sentence. You know.

651
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: It was it was a huge lesson and it calmed

652
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: me down too, you know, I mean, for the for

653
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: the craft, that was the biggest thing I learned from him.

654
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: But just watching him, you know, just watching these guys,

655
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: you know, everything's calculated, like everything is under like they're

656
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: trying to get control of every aspect of their life.

657
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: The way they treat their family when you go home,

658
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: you know, how much you mess around during the day,

659
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, like it was all that little stuff, how

660
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: you treat people, all of it.

661
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: I just I just took it all in professional. Yeah,

662
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: A pros pro.

663
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: Pros pro one hundred percent, one hundred percent.

664
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: That's that's honestly that.

665
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: I remember I went in the locker room one time

666
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: and or my agent said, you know, don't be heard,

667
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: be seen. Mm hmm, you know, like, don't don't be heard,

668
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: just be seen and just try to collect as much

669
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: as you can from the guys that are in there

670
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: the longest. Yeah, you know, And and that's and that

671
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: goes a long way. And especially nowadays, you know, I

672
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: don't know how young comics are, but young athletes, you know,

673
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: it's it's a complete different ball game.

674
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

675
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: You know, they've had a million followers since they were

676
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: fifteen years old, and they did a backflip and the

677
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: end zone with their high school game. Yeah, and it's

678
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: on social you know what I mean. Guys come in

679
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: naturally like they think there's something Yeah, when like everyone

680
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: did that in this lucker room.

681
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: Right right exactly, and nobody, nobody.

682
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of and I'm sure it's like that

683
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: for every older generation with the new generation. But yeah,

684
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: getting back to who are some of the younger comedians

685
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: that you know, you let hang around you or you

686
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: you kind of saw and and maybe you've helped.

687
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's a lot. It becomes that thing

688
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: where like you don't And it's funny like when we

689
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: talk about those guys weren't out to teach us, like, yeah,

690
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't really, but I was like, hey, do you

691
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: want to open for me? And just taking them around.

692
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: And then there's this guy Stavros Halkias, you know Stavros.

693
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just watched it.

694
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: He he uh, he opened for me. He was. I

695
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: was one of the first guys to take him on

696
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: the road. He was. I just found him at this

697
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: little Maryland club. I was just doing clubs at the time,

698
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: and they sent me a tape a YouTube link or

699
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: whatever to check out this chubby little guy from Baltimore,

700
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: and I took him under my wing and I just

701
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: he just did my radio show yesterday, awesome, and he

702
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: was talking about how much I helped him, you know,

703
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: during that time. And it's so funny because I just

704
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: loved him. I just thought he was funny. I met

705
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: my family, spent Father's Day with me and my dad once,

706
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: and he was just he was just a super talented

707
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: guy who I liked to be around. And in my mind,

708
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: he went from opening for me and then I don't know,

709
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: three years later he's on Netflix and he's like, dude,

710
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: that was twelve years ago. Like he quietly was hammering

711
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: and doing all the stuff he had to do, some

712
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: of it based off of, you know, me helping him

713
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: out and showing him stuff. And yes, so Stavros is

714
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: like the one I'm proud of right now.

715
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: Young Bucks.

716
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

717
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's I was an asshole in the locker room.

718
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: But if I saw a kid that was really trying,

719
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: really working his ass off, yeah I was, you know,

720
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: I had to help him out.

721
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah you know, because I remember.

722
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: Being that kid.

723
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I needed that.

724
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: And there's guys that you know, looked out for me,

725
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: and there's guys or assholes me. Yeah, you know, but

726
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: I was more of an accounting I made you accountable, asshole.

727
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: You know, you were a fucking slap dick, and he

728
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: thought you're ship isn't sinking the fucking room. I wasn't

729
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. All right, dude, we we went before you.

730
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: We don't need you, you know, right. Yeah, So, you

731
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: know that's one thing that that you can always you know,

732
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: you retire and your your guys' field is so much longer.

733
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 4: You guys can do it for so long.

734
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: But the one thing even when you guys put it down,

735
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: is that what you gave back to the game or

736
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: the community or you know, that lives, that knowledge lives forever.

737
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: You know, the things that you learn and maybe it

738
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: helps a younger guy and he you know what I mean. Yeah,

739
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's kind of like your dignity

740
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: to the for me, it's the game. For you, it's

741
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: the yeah, yeah, being you know comic Yeah, I.

742
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: Mean, we're all part of this whole like lineage. You know,

743
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: it's the whole thing. Is like you're saying, like the

744
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: whole game like elevating, like it's all becoming. You know,

745
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: we're all just parts of this ongoing story.

746
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: You know.

747
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: And it's cool if you do things right, then people

748
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: still want to hear about you, you know, as you

749
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: as you are, like at a different stage your thing

750
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: is so insane though, because it's so it's shorter, but

751
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: it's so big. It's so if if you're as successful

752
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: as you were, it's such this massive.

753
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't get to enjoy it. I didn't

754
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: get to enjoy it as much. No, just because you're

755
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: so in it.

756
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: You're working so hard.

757
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're always having to get better and reinvent yourself.

758
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: And after you win, then it gets even harder. And

759
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: every time you win, you just become a bigger and

760
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: bigger target. There's more and more film of you. You

761
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: have to constantly change your game and counter things and

762
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: evolve yourself with the clock the clock of your analysism.

763
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

764
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: So, speaking of clock, let's turn back the clock and

765
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: we got a segment where we go back to January

766
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, nineteen ninety one, around the game, the number

767
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: one movie we talked pop culture Home Alone.

768
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that held up.

769
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: That held up, I mean it still holds up to

770
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: this day. Yeah, my kid loves it. Macaulay Culkin just

771
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: got a star I saw recently.

772
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, with Catherine O'Hara. Yeah, it was cool seeing them together. Yeah,

773
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: that's my daughter's favorite Christmas movie.

774
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: We were talking backstage here before this, I thought it

775
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: was a little bit weird. It's still number one movie

776
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: in American We're.

777
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: In January here that it was number one for them a.

778
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 3: Month after Christmas, you know what I mean, because I

779
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 3: was thinking of it as a Christmas movie.

780
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: Right when did it come out? That's a good question.

781
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: He came out November sixteenth, So.

782
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: It had a nice wow.

783
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 3: Whoa eighteen million dollar budget mid four hundred and seventy

784
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: eight mil Wow.

785
00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Yep, big horses.

786
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: Asses.

787
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 4: That was only I was young.

788
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: So when I heard a kid say ass, I was like, hell, yeah,

789
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: ko Joe PETI, I mean Marv. Well that was a

790
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: fucking that was awesome. Kindergarten Cop came out around this time.

791
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the movie. We were just talking

792
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: about that with Lily the other night. I know, my

793
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: daughter was talking about Kindergarten Cop. We saw a picture

794
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: of Arnold. She goes, oh, he's a police guy in that.

795
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 4: Movie and a teacher.

796
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: Dancing with the wolves is basically Avatar. Yeah, yeah, Avatar

797
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: in the eighties or the nineties.

798
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Costner and then.

799
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: The Godfather three.

800
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Controversy is it good?

801
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: Is it not.

802
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: It's not, it's not.

803
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the golf four started.

804
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 4: That's always nice.

805
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: I remember my buddy, my buddy from college, actually the

806
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: kid who had the season tickets to the Giants, who

807
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: I watched this game with my buddy, Chris. He made

808
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: me go to dinner with him and he was telling me, Now,

809
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: Chris is fat and loud and uh not the brightest guy.

810
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: And he took me to dinner to tell me that

811
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: if they if they ask him, he's going to go

812
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: fight in the Gulf War. No military background. You can

813
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: knock him over with a feather.

814
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: Were you guys thinking draft coming?

815
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: Maybe I wasn't. He had some fantasy and he was

816
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: ready to go, and I was like, I was. I

817
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: admired his patriotism, but I was like, I think you're

818
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: gonna be all right.

819
00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm heating fucking lobster tiale wine. Let's go back

820
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: into the sports world. Baseball Hall of Famer, non Hall

821
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: of famer Pete Rose. He got banned, Yeah, he got banned.

822
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on that? I love Pete Rose.

823
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: I love Pete Rose too. God, he's so dominant.

824
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: What was he thinking?

825
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what is he bored?

826
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: Was he bored? Like? What do you?

827
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: Because he probably he's such a competitor.

828
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: Is that what it is?

829
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: I think? So?

830
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a that's a sad one because he

831
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: was such a fucking tenacious, just just man out there.

832
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, who fucking steals home and blows up Catcher

833
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: an All Star Game? Charlie Hustle Baby, Charlie hus NFL MVP.

834
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: Joe Montana, that was my guy. My I had a

835
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: dog named Montana. You did two dogs, Dwighton Montana.

836
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: Well, he was dominant.

837
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: I mean you guys, you probably hated him though.

838
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: I saw LT take him out.

839
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he broke his back.

840
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: I was at that game. It was in Giant Stadium.

841
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: Was the first LT?

842
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 4: Was it someone else?

843
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: I think it was who's the other linebacker.

844
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: Carson O?

845
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: Banks? I think it was Banks.

846
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: I thought LT took him out.

847
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: Someone broke his back, but he got folded.

848
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that was like the downfall of.

849
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: What maybe confusing LT with thisman.

850
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: He did break thisman's leg.

851
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: He broke everybody. Yeah, he was on cocaine.

852
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: Note to sell, do not do drugs.

853
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: Have you ever see the water boy Bobby Bouche comes

854
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: to talk at LT's camp and he can't talk and

855
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: he goes and that's why you don't do drugs. And

856
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: it's coming from LT. He's the he know for.

857
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: Mountains of Cocaine.

858
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: Oh and the Red sweep.

859
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: The A's in the World Series, man, the A's See

860
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: you got Oakland, got a bad ticket? Yeah, Las Vegas,

861
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: here we come. I know you can't change of colors, man, Yeah,

862
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: silver and black would be tough. Yeah.

863
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Mowing down some casinos to build the stadium, that's.

864
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: I mean, that's gonna be cool.

865
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: It would be cool.

866
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's good, honestly. I mean, baseball in Vegas

867
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be fucking awesome. Yeah. For the hours, you

868
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: probably could have a slot machine at your fucking seat.

869
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. You can play Keno on the big board.

870
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, bingo.

871
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: We got it all.

872
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, what was life like for you ninety one?

873
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: Did you say ninety one? You were still in college. Yeah,

874
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm just leaving college. I'm living with my girlfriend who's

875
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: still in college. So we went a little north. We

876
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: picked a place. I was working in northern New Jersey

877
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: doing advertising, and she was still going to school. So

878
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Speaker 2: I think I was still acting. I think I went

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Speaker 2: I didn't really I didn't really know what I was

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Speaker 4: You couldn't google it.

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Speaker 3: Talked earlier about what a wagon. These two teams were

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00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: thirteen and three verse thirteen and three respectively.

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Speaker 1: Wow the Bills.

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00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: Starting off with the Bills, we got Bruce Smith on

920
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: a defense one defensive Player of the Year this year

921
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: set the franchise record with nineteen sases. But yep, Fellow

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Speaker 3: Hockey like Tyler league's best offense as well, So I

923
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: mean they had getting it done on both sides of

924
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: the ball. Eight No at home, couldn't be beat up

925
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: in Buffalo, Jim Kelly, Thurman, Thomas, Andre Reed, James Lofton.

926
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Speaker 3: I mean it was a it was a star star

927
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Speaker 3: cast that was a kind of favor.

928
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Speaker 1: It sounds like the Buffalo Bills of two years ago

929
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: when they lost to the the Chiefs, because they had

930
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: their defense was like a top ten defense.

931
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had.

932
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Speaker 1: That's when Dave Ball was still there and they were

933
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: they were fucking they were lighting it up.

934
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: Couldn't beat him at home.

935
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: Largest margin of victory of any team in the NFL

936
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Speaker 3: this season, So, I mean they were they were the

937
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: odds on favorite here.

938
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

939
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Speaker 1: You ever perform in Buffalo?

940
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Once?

941
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on the city?

942
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: I didn't go back.

943
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: That says it all Western New York Buffalo.

944
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: It is good. They're good people up there. I was

945
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: just in Syracuse just similar, and you know, they don't

946
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: the sun for like nine months. No, but they're they're

947
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: still happy there.

948
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

949
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: It's it's they're not like they're more Midwest people to

950
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: me than they are East Coast.

951
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred.

952
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: Like it's yeah, because a lot of we used to

953
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of at Kent State. A lot of

954
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: kids from Buffalo, Western New York would come to Kent

955
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: State and like these people are from like Midwest is

956
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: completely different.

957
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, any place that where the weather is that bad

958
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: for that long, Like you have to be good people,

959
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: you do. Like people in Minnesota, Wisconsin. It's like something

960
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: the greatest people you'll meet.

961
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: I would say, lake cold people you get on them coasts. Yeah,

962
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: those cold people are pretty cold.

963
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, the lake effect la. Yeah,

964
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: this was a stacked team is dangerous.

965
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: Did it like you think two New York teams in

966
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl? Did it feel like a like a

967
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: like was that.

968
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: A thing that not? Really?

969
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: No, that's not New York, not my New York.

970
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: I like that answer.

971
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I was use.

972
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, two New York teams, Like, well,

973
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: someone say it's only one New York team.

974
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: I would agree, right, and one Jersey team. I was

975
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: trying to get that going, but never caught on.

976
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: Never never.

977
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 3: See what the giants are looking like the Giant seven

978
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: Pro Bowlers. We lost Phil Simms in Week fifteen talking.

979
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Speaker 1: About the nineteen, the fourteen, and two niners. They were

980
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: thirteen and three.

981
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: I know, but everyone was making the Niners out to

982
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: be like way better. Lost Phil Simms in Week fifteen

983
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: against the Bills. That's when Hosteller comes in and writes

984
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: the ship. Bill Belichick running the defense, Tom Coughlin coaching

985
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: the receivers. Both these guys would leave after the season.

986
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: Fewest points allowed in the NFL, and I mean you

987
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: might as well. You can talk all the names, all

988
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowlers, but it's LT's team, LT.

989
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: Lt Man, oh Man, LT's team. But Otis Anderson. It

990
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: was a beast Bavarovar, My god, just money.

991
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you did a show I did in South

992
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: the NFL Phil Simms, Oh yeah, called mister Simms. Yeah,

993
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: he's a he's a firecracker. Yeah, he's a great dude.

994
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: Here's some of some of those stories that you can

995
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: tell about lt Man. We're insane?

996
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. What was he like in the locker room?

997
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: What was LT?

998
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: Lt? How are you getting ready next to that guy?

999
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: I heard a story I won't tell by a source,

1000
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: but I guess LT had like a snake or he

1001
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: had something in his locker and he had like four

1002
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: watches and he had a stack of all his checks

1003
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: that weren't cash ship really and it was like his

1004
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: whole it was like a season and a half. It

1005
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: was probably half a million dollars of checks that he

1006
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: had cash. Oh my god, that was lt like a

1007
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: funny guy. Yeah, and of course it was Bill Parcells.

1008
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: I mean I totally buried the lead there.

1009
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: And even Tom story also made me think of another

1010
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: Jersey high school football coach that was on this staff,

1011
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: a young Charlie Weiss. Young Charlie Weiss a defensive assistant

1012
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: on this staff or just a coaching assistant, I should say,

1013
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: well was he?

1014
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Pretty crazy Charlie Weiss. There's an office in our

1015
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: facility called Charlie's office because it was his head. Yeah,

1016
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: he left, it always was still Charlie's office like that.

1017
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: The Giants used to stay at the Woocliffelake Hilton on

1018
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: their home games because they didn't want everybody to stay

1019
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: at home, right, so you stay at the local hotel

1020
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: and the Woolffe Flake Hilton. It's where I worked as

1021
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: a bus boy, and my girlfriend did room service and

1022
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: she was a tiny little thing. She was like you know,

1023
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: five to four. We were in high school and she

1024
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: did room service and she went to Pepper Johnson's room

1025
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: to drop off a tray and he kind of made

1026
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 2: a pass at her. He is I think seven times

1027
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: her size. He wasn't aggressive in any way. It wasn't

1028
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: anything like really, but he just like you, got a

1029
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: little flirty with her, and it was just like, oh,

1030
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: I was just hit on by a mountain.

1031
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: Old coach. Pep, Pep coach me for a couple of years.

1032
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: He did. Yeah. Pepper Johnson six three man, Yeah.

1033
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: Rachel was five four ninety eight pounds.

1034
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's time for the Bounty wingman question. Let's do it.

1035
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: Bounty is everyone's favorite wingman because you can't have football

1036
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: without wings, and you can't have wings without Bounty. So

1037
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: this is our segment where because there's always such a

1038
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: mess when you're eating wings, you have a nice Bounty

1039
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: paper towel.

1040
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 4: We chew on a wing.

1041
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: I ask you a question, and even though we're on

1042
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: this beautiful Swede couch, we don't worry because we have

1043
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: paper towels.

1044
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: All right, you have an eating with me.

1045
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we all know Bounty helps clean up the

1046
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: messiest moments. So what's your messiest moment on stage?

1047
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: M One time when I was starting out. I was

1048
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: working a club in New Jersey that's a good wing

1049
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: and somebody threw a French fry at me and it

1050
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: had ketchup on it. And I was a young comic.

1051
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing that great to begin with, and someone

1052
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: hit me with a French fry and I looked down

1053
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: and because it had ketchup on it, it just slowly

1054
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: it like stuck to me and slowly went down my shirt.

1055
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: And there's no one funny enough to come back from that.

1056
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: You just have to leave the stage.

1057
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: Don't you wish you had a Bounty paper towel?

1058
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's funny because when it happened, that's

1059
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: what I was thinking.

1060
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: Were you well, color shirt white white?

1061
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, it was pretty embarrassing.

1062
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: Bounty and Wings my favorite duo. And that was the

1063
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: Bounty wing man question Jack, what about we said the

1064
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: stage of his game? All right?

1065
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: This was a rematch of the week fifteen game, which

1066
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: the Bills won, knocked out Phil Simms. So the that

1067
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: was late in the season getting him out knocked him

1068
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: out Phil the rest of the season.

1069
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: Hated to see it.

1070
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: Hosteller comes in and leads away. After that, Buffalo's path

1071
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, beat Miami in a shootout against

1072
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: Dan Marino up in the snow there in western New York.

1073
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: Then they rolled the Raiders.

1074
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 3: Put up ninety five total points in those two games.

1075
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: So the offense was just clicking, firing on all cylinders.

1076
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: The Giants at a beach Chicago, and then as we

1077
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: alluded to earlier, went out to San Francisco Candlestick and

1078
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: beat Jules's Niners. I got that San Francisco tree, that

1079
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: fumble man, that darn fumble. Giants leaned on their power offense.

1080
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 3: Bill Parcells always preached a tough defense and a ball

1081
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: control power offense. They could run the ball. I mean,

1082
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: the possession in these games are just insane. Yeah, as

1083
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: we'll see in this when it's you know, sett in

1084
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl record forty minutes of possession. It was

1085
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: great offense fors great defense. And it was the first

1086
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: Super Bowl appearance for the Bills, and spoiler alerted only

1087
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: got worse appearance by appearance.

1088
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:37,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1089
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I was doing research when we were watching

1090
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: this game, and it reminded me of.

1091
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: Every Super Bowl I was in.

1092
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, to a t let's try to control

1093
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: the clock, right, I tried to have possessions. Now some

1094
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: of them, that was like our game plan going into

1095
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: some of them. You know, we played Atlanta and there

1096
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: fucking we're down twenty eight to three. That kind of

1097
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: game plan goes up door. But you know that was

1098
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: kind of like the blueprint. Yeah, and I mean they

1099
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: executed to a t because with an explosive offense like Buffalo,

1100
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: like the only way I mean they were they were

1101
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: there the one offense in the league. The only way

1102
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: you stop them is you keep them off the goddamn

1103
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: fucking field right eat up the clock. But you need

1104
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: to play situationally great for that to happen, because you

1105
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: got to do well on third downs, to extend drives,

1106
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: well in the red area, come away with points. And

1107
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: it was almost if you look at the game, the

1108
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: deciding factor. You look at the Giants, they bend, they

1109
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: bend because you see all the points that the Bills

1110
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: got in the first half. They had four field goals.

1111
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: That's right of your offense. That's the game right there.

1112
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: That's why they lost.

1113
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: I mean, when you have that running game, you can

1114
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: just and it gets stronger as the game goes on.

1115
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: Demoralizes a team when you run the ball down their throat, demoralizes.

1116
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm on offense and if we're getting ran on, this

1117
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: is us all right, you know, because we want to

1118
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: get you out of your rhythm. You want to get

1119
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: out there, and you got a fucking fifteen to twenty

1120
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: minute drive.

1121
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's tough.

1122
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 1: I mean that, it's really getting cold on the side.

1123
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: It's insane.

1124
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: And then we're watching before this Bill was saying, like

1125
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: you probably heard a million times in Super Bowls, he

1126
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 3: was gonna let Thurman Thomas do what Thurman Thomas was

1127
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: gonna do. But they're gonna take away anything deep down

1128
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: the field, play that cover to bring the safeties up,

1129
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: and you got to go across the middle and fight out.

1130
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: And you can take a little four yard catch, but

1131
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: you can take a pounding Yeah.

1132
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1133
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: It would dare you to catch it over the middle

1134
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 1: when you could actually kill people.

1135
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1136
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: Literally, I think I think I saw knife pulled that one.

1137
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: We saw the clip of hospital.

1138
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 5: It's like buried into the ground and he has smelling

1139
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 5: salts to.

1140
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he's like, yeah, the three back in there

1141
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: didn't even miss it. Serious, Yeah, his head is just

1142
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: garied in the turf. So there's no new York rivalry. This,

1143
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: this is like New York, like New York, New York Now, no, no,

1144
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: no sub series that.

1145
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 2: Like The Raiders. Yeah, Upstate's very different from New York City.

1146
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: What about uh different? What's your what's your thoughts of

1147
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay? This was in Tampa Bay.

1148
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: In Tampa. Yeah, no feeling at all. I'm even trying.

1149
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah down there no response, Yeah a little bit. Yeah,

1150
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: it's all right. You know, it's a it's a weird place.

1151
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: It's one of those like Tampa, Orlando.

1152
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: You know, what's the game day Schmorgesborg for a Super

1153
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: Bowl while you're watching this.

1154
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: When I'm watching this, definitely remember definitely it was we

1155
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: were deep into wings, tons and tons of wings. That's

1156
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: wings and pizza and beer.

1157
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: That was it.

1158
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: There was not maybe a bag of chips that was

1159
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: as fancy as we got.

1160
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: What's the chip back then?

1161
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: It was probably ruffles ridges. Okay, maybe some maybe some

1162
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: supermarket onion.

1163
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Now you're sitting there in the first

1164
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: half and before the last the drive before half were

1165
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: the Giants score. Yeah, like you guys are getting played

1166
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: the three. So you're sitting there dipping your chip, you're

1167
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: ruffling in the dip and you're like, are you stressed

1168
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: at this point going in? Yeah, before that last drive

1169
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: into half.

1170
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: There's no there's nothing about this day that ever lets

1171
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: you off the hook and makes you feel good. It's

1172
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: always nerve wracking. It's always in the first And there

1173
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: was also, you know, going back and watching it, there

1174
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: was that Matt they you know, when the team starts,

1175
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: breaks start happening, you think the mojo's going their way.

1176
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: There was a couple like tip balls and things that

1177
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: were just it seemed like this was gonna be Buffalo's night.

1178
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: It just seems like we're not getting any of the magic.

1179
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: Then you're sitting in the back of your head. You're

1180
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: sitting there, it's our backup quarterback.

1181
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we don't even deserve to be here used to.

1182
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: There's no way how's that's going to do it. And

1183
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: these guys, Kelly and Thomas is just like Thomas was

1184
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: just but I.

1185
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: Mean, we watched an interview and Belichick was saying that

1186
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: they were gonna let them run the ball.

1187
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 4: They we didn't they we didn't want them.

1188
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, to throw the ball, which he's basically saying, we're

1189
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna challenge him to have to put together these big drives.

1190
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 4: And execute in the red area, right, So they were

1191
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 4: they were cool with that.

1192
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: I think man nerve wracking. But like there's also though

1193
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: when you watch when you watch Norwood, yeah, his first

1194
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: field goal kind of shanks. He makes it, but it

1195
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: it kind of squibs to the right. It does. It's

1196
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: not like looking back you can see like there was

1197
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: not a lot of something was up. This guy was not.

1198
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: And he was one for like five over forty yards.

1199
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 3: Or forty five yards, Tom, you're on the money man, right,

1200
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: one for five on field goal attempts of forty more

1201
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: yards for grass fields forty.

1202
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: Yards forty or more. So, like I did not feel

1203
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: that during the day. Yeah, I was not not like confident,

1204
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: but looking back, like that first kick is likely over compensate.

1205
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: That next one. Yeah, that's one of those ones where

1206
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: you sneaked by huh and then you're like oh, and

1207
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: then right before the next one you're like, I can't

1208
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: do that mechanic. It's like that golf shot, right. Oh.

1209
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: Yes, Norwood was not like a great kicker by any mean. So,

1210
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 3: like I know, hindsight's twenty twenty here, and everyone gives

1211
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: him the rap of of being the goat. But I

1212
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: mean he was twenty for twenty nine on the year,

1213
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 3: sixty nine percent ratios.

1214
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 4: How about those screw How good they were?

1215
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: How cool were their face masks? Bring back the single bar,

1216
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: both kickers, bring back the bar.

1217
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: We need a bar down low so you can see

1218
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: their whole face when they miss.

1219
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: Now I got the serious, real serious question. It was

1220
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: the Whitney Houston national anthem, national anthem in the history

1221
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: of national anthems.

1222
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 4: Of all time. It was insane.

1223
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: No one comes close.

1224
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: And Marvin Gay had a good one over at Marvin

1225
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: and Houston at the All Star Game. All Up Star

1226
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: Game was cool because he had a cool, like like

1227
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: beat with it, and yeah, yeah.

1228
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 4: But this was stunny.

1229
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: But this was also we're going to war. We were

1230
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: going to war, and we didn't know what that meant.

1231
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: And even though my buddy Chris, who's there eating wings

1232
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: with me, was ready to enlist, Uh, it was heightened.

1233
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: And she was so beautiful, so on top.

1234
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: Of her game, she nailed it, nailed it.

1235
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: Those what do they call those jets? Yeah, airplane, but

1236
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: it was those it was like the new the ones

1237
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: that couldn't be detected by radar.

1238
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh, stealth bombers.

1239
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: Stealth bombers. I hadn't seen that before. We're like, what

1240
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: is happening right now?

1241
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: Do you think that was the government kind of flexing over?

1242
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: Like if anyone's watching the Super Bowl, we got these

1243
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: cool new black things.

1244
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting ready to go.

1245
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. We never seen is that the

1246
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: first time we see the black bombers?

1247
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: I think so?

1248
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: I think, so let me double check here, like what

1249
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: is that? It's that star that's crazy.

1250
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: And she was so oh my god, she was so

1251
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: beautiful and just killed it.

1252
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: Man.

1253
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: So halftime, new kids on the block, New kids on

1254
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: the block are there? I don't remember that. I must

1255
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: have been doing Bond hits during that.

1256
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh so at halftime, the Giants did the last shot

1257
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: kind of situation. Gotta get that touchdown, got it down

1258
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: to a one score game, score game, and then they

1259
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: open up the drive with a ten minute drive, suck

1260
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: off ten minutes of the third quarter, huge score, a touchdown.

1261
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: Go up, seventeen twelve, seventeen twelve.

1262
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: Huh, take up?

1263
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: I mean, as you said, eat up almost eleven minutes o'clock.

1264
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 3: Then Buffalo comes out, has a big drive to start

1265
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: the fourth, they get up nineteen seventeen, We come down,

1266
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 3: kick a field goal, go up twenty to nineteen.

1267
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: How much time? Minutes left? Seven?

1268
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: So we got time to work with at this point, Tom,

1269
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: Are you like, cause I'm like a pessimistic fan, Oh yeah,

1270
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like.

1271
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: Oh too much time? We're done? Where are you staying

1272
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: on the.

1273
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: You're just waiting. You're like, they're going to kill us?

1274
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: How are they going to do it? And are we

1275
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: going to do it to ourselves? It's just the knee

1276
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: jerk reaction.

1277
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: That's a Boston, New York fan.

1278
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, same.

1279
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: It gets down all the way to this last kick.

1280
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: Walk us through step FIRSTEP. If you remember how I remember.

1281
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: That they had this impressive drive and Kelly, you know

1282
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: a force. They started pretty deep, I believe, yeah.

1283
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 3: Believe it started on their nine yard line and.

1284
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: They put together this drive and I don't remember exactly

1285
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: what like the last play putting him in position for

1286
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 2: the kick.

1287
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 3: Thurmon Thomas run got him down to about the thirty

1288
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 3: and the minute to spike it.

1289
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: And then they had to spike it.

1290
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: YEP.

1291
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: So how much time was on when they started a drive?

1292
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 4: When they started the drive.

1293
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 3: There were so we had a couple of three and

1294
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: outs here, So there were two minutes sixteen seconds.

1295
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, from their own ten.

1296
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: To sixteen and it doesn't feel like today's to sixteen.

1297
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: Like the clock got eaten up right much more.

1298
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: There's an explosive of the game, right, Yeah.

1299
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 2: You have to play old school football and it eats

1300
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: up clock.

1301
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 4: Literally.

1302
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: It was just yeah that all started like five years

1303
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: ago with Patrick Mahomes and Allen right where you know

1304
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: seven seconds was too much.

1305
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 4: I mean this one you can actually.

1306
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: Hit people right exactly. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah,

1307
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: so that's a two minute try. But they get all

1308
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: the way down and uh man, I just remember I

1309
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: remember the players like praying. They're just like huddled like giants.

1310
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: The giants were just like on the sideline, like hugging

1311
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: each other just nobody, nobody could look. And in Summerville,

1312
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: New Jersey, in a shitty one bedroom apartment, no one

1313
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: was in their seat. We were just lying on the

1314
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: ground holding each other, not looking. I mean, just so insane,

1315
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: and we're gonna lose. Like there's no part of you

1316
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: that thinks he's gonna miss it. Yeah, there's no part

1317
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 2: You're just like, oh, they're making this so damn painful,

1318
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: Like he's just he's just gonna hit it, and then

1319
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: it goes up and just when did you see it?

1320
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: Right away? Oh?

1321
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: Right away? It was pretty quick. It was pretty cool.

1322
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't like that much. I mean it really, yeah,

1323
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: it was. It was wide right, It was really wide right.

1324
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: Just tad how I mean, there's nothing more upsetting to

1325
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: watch than a kicker that blow it like that.

1326
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: That's sad. I feel bad for the kicker, you know, yeah,

1327
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: just because you know, I've been around the guys. Yeah,

1328
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: and you know they're they're usually in their own little world.

1329
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: Some guys don't accept him asselflayer. They know that.

1330
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 4: Yep, you know they know that.

1331
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: People think they only have one fucking job. Yeah, so

1332
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of like one of those things where you

1333
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: can't get mad. The guy works his ass off. Yeah,

1334
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: you know. The operation. It's crazy. The aftermath of this game.

1335
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: Oh that kick where it goes the butterfly effect four

1336
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: straight for Buffalo, which is completely different than what the

1337
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: Giants do, and they win their second Super Bowl in

1338
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: the franchise history. I mean it, h that was a

1339
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: spiral that could have been it.

1340
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: Now let me ask you this personnel changes, why the

1341
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: teams remain the teams?

1342
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: Like why you know what I mean, Like.

1343
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: The Patriots are the Patriots. I mean you have eras

1344
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: where you're killing it, and but there's still something in

1345
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: the dna of a team. Everyone's gone, coaches have changed.

1346
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: Is it the building, is it just the what is

1347
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 2: it that still like makes the Patriots the Patriots?

1348
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 4: Well they're not that right now.

1349
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they're not.

1350
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: I but you got Tom Brady and and Belichick had

1351
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: a template and and he had the law, and Tom

1352
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: went out and the best players in the team would

1353
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: enforce the law. There's good nucleus of guys. And then

1354
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: you know when those that first team kind of got

1355
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: out and there's different guys that kind of went into

1356
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: that area. And but the one the two constants were

1357
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: Tom and Bill, you know. And there's a lot a

1358
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: whole lot of debate going on right about now about

1359
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: all that right now, right but I think a lot

1360
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 1: of it was both.

1361
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean up until like the

1362
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: Giants have would have like winning years and then they

1363
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: would just suck and then it's a.

1364
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: Tough place to play. A lot of expectation, a lot

1365
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: of distraction. The media in New York is very tough.

1366
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean we all know, you know, so it's it

1367
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: it's hard. Yeah, it's it's not easy to win this league.

1368
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: And it's a quarterback league. And I mean this is

1369
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: the time where you know, Buffalo had a really good

1370
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,919
Speaker 1: quarterback and then the Giants did too, and he gets

1371
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: hurt and they found a way. Yeah. You know that

1372
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: that's what depth, good defense, good situational football can do

1373
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: for a team. It's cool to see two different styles. Yeah,

1374
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: because he had the you know, it was almost you know,

1375
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: the high flyer Buffalo Bills, Yeah, against the dirty, nasty

1376
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: New York Giants.

1377
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, in a good way.

1378
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 2: We know what, you know what, we're gonna run.

1379
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we run. Yeah.

1380
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 2: The the Bills still haven't won a Super Bowl. So

1381
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: if you're a team now, like when they're having a

1382
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: rough yew this year, but yeah, you know, recently they've

1383
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 2: been contending. And does the history play into it, kind

1384
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 2: of like the Red Sox or the Cubs, like the

1385
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: curse kind of like you hear in the media constantly

1386
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 2: like there's something going on, Like, well, for me.

1387
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't a part of the first three Super Bowls

1388
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: or the undefeated season. I was in the second group

1389
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: of three, so it was god, it was uh, you know,

1390
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: there were different generations, so I always we always had

1391
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: to hear about Teddy Bruski, William McGuinness, fucking Kevin Fall,

1392
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: Troy Brown and how these guys made the plays, you know,

1393
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: and you know, you go out win a Super Bowl and.

1394
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 4: You're still hearing it.

1395
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: Well, these guys did it two three, So then you

1396
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: get competitive with it. They wanted to be you know,

1397
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: so I don't know, it could steer you different ways,

1398
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 1: and yeah, you do think about history.

1399
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 4: It is in your head though, you know, but yeah,

1400
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: it was in our head.

1401
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: It was in my head. I can't speak for everyone,

1402
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: but for me, that motivated me. I wanted to be

1403
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: like them, and I was sick of hearing about them.

1404
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear about us. Yeah, you know, because

1405
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: they were I mean, they were the first to do it. Yeah,

1406
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: and it was they, you know, it was It's hard

1407
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: when everyone knows about you. It was about him knows

1408
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: about us because of them, so everyone hated us.

1409
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know.

1410
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: Parcells went on to retire after this year.

1411
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 3: His first retirement that was a big fallout, and then

1412
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: Bill even going to take the Browns head coaching job,

1413
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 3: another cursed franchise, and Tom Coughlin took over BC as

1414
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 3: a head coach. So those were kind of the big

1415
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 3: the big departures brain drain from the Giants coaching staff.

1416
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: Belichick goes to the Browns.

1417
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: Do you secretly wish Belichick comes back to the Giants?

1418
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I never hated on

1419
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: the Patriots. It was very It was very much because

1420
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: of him, and also uh uh took some of the

1421
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: staff also, Crenell orc Yeah, and I love those guys.

1422
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: So you knew that discipline that kind of like we

1423
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: always carried it like is Giant fans, Like we were

1424
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: old school disciplined, real like legit football that it was

1425
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: up in New England. I couldn't I admired it. I

1426
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: couldn't hate on it.

1427
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: You could always tell when we were in New York

1428
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: playing against the Giants. He loved the Giants. Yeah, you

1429
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: could just tell. I mean it was, you know, a

1430
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: huge part of his start. Yeah, you know how he

1431
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 1: talked about those teams, how he talked about LT. Pepper Johnson,

1432
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: Philip Sims and the stories of all those, you know, like.

1433
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 4: He loved the Giants.

1434
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, they have kind of similar DNA.

1435
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: I guess because of those guys.

1436
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: Is this ninety one defense one of the greatest of

1437
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: all time? The greatest of all time or one of

1438
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: the great everyone throws the eighty five bears. No, they

1439
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: don't really get the the cred really if you think

1440
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: about it, who the Giants Giants ninety one defense here?

1441
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you just asking that question best of

1442
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: all times, Like I didn't never even thought of them

1443
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: in that term. Carson was gone.

1444
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 4: I think it was.

1445
01:11:58,680 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 2: Banks and LT.

1446
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: YEP and Pep Yep and Steve Diassi.

1447
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think man if LT is under LT automatically

1448
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 3: makes some more.

1449
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: People just think he rushed the pastor that did did everything.

1450
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember what I remember Bill would throw

1451
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: on we would we would struggle with There's like this

1452
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: trap where they do this double pool and they still

1453
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: run the same damn plays, you know and nowadays back then, yeah,

1454
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: and the defensive end is supposed to you gotta set

1455
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: the edge, but it's hard because you have two guys

1456
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: and they can pop through and they can get through.

1457
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: So you gotta really blow it up. But you can't

1458
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: overblow it up because they can bounce it. Because you're

1459
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: the force or you're the you know, you're the edge,

1460
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: and if the edge is broken, then there's no help.

1461
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: And we were struggling with this, so he brought back

1462
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: this one play of LT blew up both the fucking

1463
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: poolers and tackled the guy right away. He's like, this

1464
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: is how you fucking do it. This guy. Watch him.

1465
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: Everyone just thinks, you know, yeah, we'll just we'll just

1466
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: be LT.

1467
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of those guys.

1468
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1469
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: Now would you rather lose three Super Bowls in a

1470
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: row or not make it to a Super Bowl?

1471
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 2: Not make it? I don't know.

1472
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: I think I gotta lose three? You do? Yeah, well

1473
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: you're you're as a fan, not as a player.

1474
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah what about as a player?

1475
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: As a player, you gotta go. I want to go.

1476
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: You gotta go.

1477
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: You gotta at least play in the show. Yeah, you

1478
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: may not win the show, but you're still you gotta

1479
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: go to the show.

1480
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1481
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 4: See where it stacks up.

1482
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: This is why you're a great athlete. And I tell

1483
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 2: jokes about my dogs because I would I'm like, oh,

1484
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: that's gonna hurt. That's gonna hurt so much. Why don't

1485
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: we just not you just have it in you, You're

1486
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 2: just ah. But I mean, what do you think Bill's

1487
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: fans say.

1488
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't know they're they're in until one right now? Yeah, Jackie,

1489
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: we have any leftovers.

1490
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 3: We had a pretty clean up stod, but we do

1491
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 3: have a leftover question that we we love to throw

1492
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 3: out to everybody. Tom, we love great locker room stories,

1493
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: so we were wondering, do you have any great green

1494
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,839
Speaker 3: room stories from touring with Seinfeld back in the heyday?

1495
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, This was a little later and he was

1496
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 2: back playing the Beacon, and he's gonna play the Beacon.

1497
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to open for him, and then we're going

1498
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: to like Columbus, Ohio or something the next day. And

1499
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: the Beacon has very small tights and old building, tight

1500
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: dressing rooms. You gotta take this little elevator up to

1501
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 2: each floor so that I'm there early, and I'm in

1502
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: the little green room and I'm waiting for Jerry, and

1503
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: I figure out, well, it's been a while and I

1504
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 2: haven't seen him in a bit, so I'm just gonna

1505
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna not a big thing, but just play

1506
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 2: a little joke that I fell asleep. He's so late

1507
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 2: that I fell asleep. So I like loose my tie

1508
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: and undo my belt and I'm just kick back on

1509
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: this couch. I hear the elevator coming up, and I'm

1510
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: just like kind of like, look like I'm drooling on myself.

1511
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: And the elevator opens up and I hear Jerry go oh,

1512
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 2: and I open my eyes. It's Jerry Seinfeld, Steve Martin,

1513
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: and Tom Hanks. I'm like my coach with parcels.

1514
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 4: Right.

1515
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, hey, I'm just doing a bit. I'm

1516
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 2: just being funny. And they're like, hey, nice to meet you.

1517
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys need to ride home.

1518
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: Anyone I'm going I'm going downtown. Everybody want to share

1519
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: a cab. It was pretty humiliating. I meant the guy job.

1520
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 4: And then they come any.

1521
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: Sleepy, very funny, Tom, very funny.

1522
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: So let's score the game. The name of the game

1523
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: is wide right. We all know we play call off

1524
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: of it, and we used to have a sign where

1525
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: we'd have the picture of it, like on our tip sheets.

1526
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: We'd have a tip sheet before each game, give your reminders,

1527
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: and we used to have a play call wide right,

1528
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: and on the reminder tip sheet it was the picture

1529
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: of the wide right. Oh really yeah, we'll be right

1530
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: back after this quick break. Score the game presented by

1531
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: win Bet. This is a segment where we score our

1532
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: game and see where this specific game stands in like

1533
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: all our games that we've done, so it's gonna be.

1534
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a good one.

1535
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: Steaks zero to ten decimals. Okay, score the stakes of

1536
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: this game.

1537
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 2: Game the steaks. Uh, can it get any higher?

1538
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 4: Camp?

1539
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: No?

1540
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: Right?

1541
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so whatever?

1542
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 4: The max is ten, ten, ten for all the marbles. Yeah,

1543
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 4: we got ten star power.

1544
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 2: Oh man, super Bowl, super Bowl and both sides of stars.

1545
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 5: We're just throwing tens out for everything. There's different levels

1546
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 5: of super Bowls, right, like a back to back super

1547
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 5: Bowl or like an undefeated season super Bowl.

1548
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 1: You know, like, it's fine, it's.

1549
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: Okay, you're saying too many tens.

1550
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 5: We've been just handing out ten. We handed out of

1551
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 5: ten to game five of an NBA Finals, Like, what

1552
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 5: are we doing here?

1553
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: Right? Well, you're well, you're right, I mean, to his point, Hostetler,

1554
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 2: he's got to drop us a couple points. He wasn't

1555
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 2: a star.

1556
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: He was a so that steaks are that star power

1557
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: because there is a star power, stakes are super high.

1558
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: I think staks are.

1559
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 4: Ten alright star power, uh star pod.

1560
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, wewight war she.

1561
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she wasn't playing football, was she? All?

1562
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: Right?

1563
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: Nine point eight.

1564
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: Gameplay time sucking Giants against the high flyer Buffalo Bills

1565
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: that couldn't score in the red area.

1566
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you know, it's kind of like when

1567
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 2: the Devils would win in the NHL, like they were

1568
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: just dominant but so boring to watch. You know, is

1569
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 2: this gameplay like the game plan or the entertaining part

1570
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: of watching it?

1571
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: I would say, like just the gameplay of the game.

1572
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 2: The top play was.

1573
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 3: A miss kick by the way too, just to put

1574
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 3: that in firm reference, I was leaning to entertainment value.

1575
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 2: It was a grind it was upsetting. I was tense

1576
01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: the whole time. Probably smoked way too much weed. Gameplay. Yeah,

1577
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 2: it was kind of a grindy, dirty game, right, like

1578
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 2: a seven seven.

1579
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: So that's fair, that's fair. The name of the game,

1580
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: wide right, If you ask anyone wide right, people know

1581
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: this game.

1582
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure, so one zero out of ten, wide right?

1583
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: Where does it? Where does it?

1584
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: Go. I would say ten except for your producer, so

1585
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say nine.

1586
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: Ky.

1587
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 3: Finally, this is up there for all time. This games

1588
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 3: was named this is thriller in Manila level like I

1589
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 3: love wide right? Everyone you say, and everyone knows it.

1590
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: Everyone, everyone knows boys eight point ninety five. Now let's

1591
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: see some of the games we've done with some of

1592
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: the people. Where does the stack up? Oh?

1593
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: Nice, it's up there.

1594
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 3: We were right there in the fourth spot, right below

1595
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 3: the Yankees Red Sox two thousand and four alc Yes, sorry, Tom.

1596
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: Was that the Yeah? That was not one for a

1597
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: New Yorker.

1598
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 2: Once that, once the the mitt, the catcher's mitt winning

1599
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: a Rod's face, it was over. Yeah. From there, I

1600
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: started thinking about football.

1601
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: Oh, good old ver Tech.

1602
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: The captain for Dugo's going to the Yanks.

1603
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about that?

1604
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't like it?

1605
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: Man. Well, I had a blast with this, Tom so great.

1606
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: Did we did we miss anything about this game? Uh?

1607
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: Well, my buddy didn't have to go to war that

1608
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 2: I mean, and he got his victory pieces. So not

1609
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: only was it a great game, not only was it

1610
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: fun to talk about, but in a way we saved

1611
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: his life.

1612
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: In a way he did. No, we did.

1613
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: We you and me.

1614
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was four.

1615
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm giving you credit.

1616
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: I'll take it.

1617
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: You're the best.

1618
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: You have anything to plug other than we got what

1619
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: what is? Uh? He just finished his stand up tour.

1620
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 4: You have special The next tour is starting to roll.

1621
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 5: Uh.

1622
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: Just go to Tom Papa on All On All Things

1623
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:09,520
Speaker 2: and you'll find me Instagram, my website, my mailbox.

1624
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,879
Speaker 1: That's a great name. To Charlotte, January twelve.

1625
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: Charlotte, North Carolina.

1626
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 4: It is come on the stand up, take your shirt

1627
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 4: twisted around.

1628
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: Okay, this is really great.

1629
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1630
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So cool.

1631
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: We have to take a picture. I gotta show, definitely,

1632
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: I gotta show Matt Damon who I was hanging with.

1633
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: Matt Damon. Yeah, you got to tell him the story

1634
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: about where I was randomly riding my bike in Brooklyn

1635
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: and he lives there.

1636
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 4: I guess. I saw Ranon, like, hey man, how you doing.

1637
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, is edel Man. He's it was cool. Yeah,

1638
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,879
Speaker 1: we've met up a couple of times. He's a sweetheart.

1639
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: But at flack. On the other hand, you tell.

1640
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 2: Him, yeah, really, you're gonna let him have it. No,

1641
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: I'll tell him anyway, we got some beef.

1642
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 4: Someone who want to see a real batman, Come tell me.

1643
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm on it.

1644
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: Man. That was an awesome episode. Tom Papa, that was

1645
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: my Jerry Seinfeld for you.

1646
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, id, I got a little Seinfeld in there.

1647
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 3: What's to deal with this guy? His name's Papa, but

1648
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 3: he's not my father? That was That'd be a Seinfeld bit,

1649
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 3: wouldn't he He'd be like, yeah, I write that down.

1650
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:25,839
Speaker 3: This is going in the special.

1651
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was confused. He said his name was Tom Papa,

1652
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have a kid. What's to do? No?

1653
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: He was awesome though. That was sick.

1654
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 4: No, that was funny.

1655
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: Was good to hear his his come up and and

1656
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: to hear how he kind of used a little bit

1657
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: of that athlete mentality in his stand up career.

1658
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: And what was no chicks, no partying, bro, just writing,

1659
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 3: I mean spiral notebooks.

1660
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, day's off, Jack? I know, no days

1661
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: off Jack. I'm trying to party and have fun. Man

1662
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: in the room, It'll come. What did Seinfeld to say?

1663
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: You gotta like, yeah, you gotta do good at invest

1664
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: in the craft, and then the Craft will invest.

1665
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 4: And give you a reward or something.

1666
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, something lame like that some time.

1667
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 4: No, it was fun, man.

1668
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 1: I can't wait to continue to watch him and I

1669
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing his new stand up Yeah for real.

1670
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 3: In honor of the wide right game, one of the

1671
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: most painful endings in sports history, especially for the folks

1672
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 3: up in Buffalo, we're gonna talk about some of the

1673
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: most painful miss kicks or just botched field goals to

1674
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 3: end games in.

1675
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: All of football, all the football. Put together a little

1676
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: top five. What do you think can we come to

1677
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: a consensus? You, me and Kyler. Let's do it. Let's

1678
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: do it.

1679
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 3: Starting off the kick six. You got the kick six

1680
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 3: Bama and Auburn. You got the double doink Eagles and Bears.

1681
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,839
Speaker 3: You got the Romo Botch snap not even a missfield

1682
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 3: looks to Botch snap in that playoff game against the Seahawks.

1683
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: And then you got I mean, I guess we'll lump

1684
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: these all together. It's almost got to be one for me.

1685
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 3: When you can, you can put it like a godfather.

1686
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 3: You got wide right one wide right to those Florida

1687
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 3: State Miami ones. I don't know those are tough.

1688
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: We got a couple, we got I think in Florida

1689
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: State Miami. What was that? That's a rivalry game. That's

1690
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: a rivalry game. So but it's and it's also it's college, man,

1691
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: it's college you where do you put them on a

1692
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: lower scale? These kids are pro kickers. Like, that's tough.

1693
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: That's tough for a college Like you know what I mean?

1694
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: This kid probably you're doing a halftime thing where the

1695
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,560
Speaker 1: coach had an audition for fucking some kickoff thing, and

1696
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they signed them and they hit

1697
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: the video team giving them a scholarship. Kidding, he ain't

1698
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: getting two million dollars a kick?

1699
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: What about the.

1700
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 5: Do you remember that there's a regular season game.

1701
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: I think it was the Saints maybe Jags where there

1702
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: was a full on.

1703
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 5: Like a lateral kickoff situation with like no time left

1704
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 5: and they actually had it work like an annex section

1705
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 5: of Puerto Rico, and it actually worked, and then they

1706
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 5: missed the extra point to lose the game.

1707
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 4: Actually they scored a touch.

1708
01:24:59,320 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: Let me look at one.

1709
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 3: It's not the Will LUTs one from twenty twenty two.

1710
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: It was like Carney was, yeah, you know, I'm not

1711
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: one of those guys that sits in berries on killing

1712
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: the kicker after a game losing kick, because the game's

1713
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: not lost or won on that kick. There's about fifteen

1714
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: to thirty other plays that came down to spoken like

1715
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: a true teamer. You know, I feel for my guy.

1716
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: So you know, Steve Goskowski big fault. Those are my guys.

1717
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 3: Oh, Kyler alluded to the Rivers City Relay got a name?

1718
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: Should we?

1719
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 4: River City?

1720
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,839
Speaker 3: Two thousand and three, The Jags were leading twenty to thirteen.

1721
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 3: The Saints used three laterals to score a touchdown his

1722
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 3: time expired in regulation. However, New Orleans kicker John Carney

1723
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 3: missed the ensuing extra point and would have sent the

1724
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 3: game into overtime, but instead the Jags' short that was

1725
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 3: pre moving astree r p a t Yeah, prior to

1726
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 3: making it a football play, as Bill would say.

1727
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: That hurts, That hurts River City Relay.

1728
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: What did you say?

1729
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 4: Who would say?

1730
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: What?

1731
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 4: Bill?

1732
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Bill?

1733
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 3: Because he said make it a football play, right, That's

1734
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: why he was the one. I think that lobbied to

1735
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 3: move the extra point back. It's good, I think, yeah,

1736
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 3: it makes it more interesting. I think that was a

1737
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 3: Bill term, make this a football play.

1738
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: Sorry, so wide rights.

1739
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: That's the last college putting that fifth?

1740
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 4: What about this wide right? Is this one in here?

1741
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one's in here. I think this might be

1742
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: number one. Honestly. The butterfly effect Super Bowl, I mean

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01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: the kick six.

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01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 5: The kick six is wild because usually a miskick is

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01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 5: just like sadness, but like the kick six, the sadness

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01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 5: led to a great football play.

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01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean that changed play calling for that situation one

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01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: second left because if you if you, I mean, if

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01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: you think about it, and that's why they do that

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01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: on those extra long ones. They put those fast guys

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01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,560
Speaker 1: back there because you got all linemen on there for

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01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: the kickoff or for the field goal team. It's fucking travesty.

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01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 4: You're done.

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01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: That's great gamble. That's gotta be.

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01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 4: That's up there.

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01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: That's that's that's number two.

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01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: Let's put we got wide right at one three, I

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01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 3: think you gotta go. Speaking of butterfly effect, the Romo

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01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,440
Speaker 3: bought Snap, I mean Dallas hadn't won a playoff game since.

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01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 4: No, they won one last year.

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01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they pardon me, double doing.

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01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, that's extra heartbreaking because you got your

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01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 5: heartbroken twice.

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01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: And and the Eagles went on to win that year.

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01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 3: They did yeah, they beat beat the Pats right that year?

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01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, that was to repeat.

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01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 5: That was to repeat they won the year before.

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01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah yeah. So then it goes three,

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01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: Romo doubled like four. You think Romo is more heartbreaking

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01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: or are you going one is the most heartbreaking? Yeah?

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01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 5: You think Romo is more heartbreaking than the double drink?

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01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: Dude, this is Dallas Cowboys. Okay, okay, when you when

1774
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 1: you have that star in your helmet, there's a different standard. Okay,

1775
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: you're America's team.

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01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 3: I guess I feel like I just called called into

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01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 3: Jerry's office when I signed with the Cowboys.

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01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I am eating a fucking egg McMuffin with

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01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: salt and pepper and extra ketchup on it. Isn't that

1780
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: what he's eating? Even salting down an egg McMuffin. I'm

1781
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 1: like that man like salt.

1782
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 3: Liberal with the salt brother hurt. What's the sodium levels

1783
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 3: through the roof?

1784
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 2: What's the fifth?

1785
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 4: One?

1786
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: Fifth? Let's go after su Miami wide right one through five?

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01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 1: Five for the Boys River City? I mean we didn't

1788
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: know by it. And then this is that was It's

1789
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: a regular season game.

1790
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 3: Anything related to Jacksonville. Call me ring No, I mean Jacksonville.

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01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 1: I like Jacksonville a year ago.

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01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 3: Our final rankings ready, yeah, wide Rite number one, kick six,

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01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: number two, Romobot snap against the Seahawks, number three, fourth,

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01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: the double doing the number five wide right series.

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01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Pretty good list.

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01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 4: That's good.

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01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: I think that's painful. What do you guys think? I want?

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01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: We want to hear in the comment section below, blow

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01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 1: us up. I want to hear what you guy. I

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01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: want to hear arguments. I want to hear replies. Let's

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01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: see it one episode. Thanks again to Tom Papa for

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01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: coming on it. Just I like saying his name.

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01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 4: It reminds me of Papa Smurf.

1804
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Me to John Popper from The Blues Traveler. Yeah.

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01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 4: That's a good comic name. Good stage name it is.

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01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's been another episode of Games with Names, presented

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