WEBVTT - Ariel Bares It All 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.600 What's a Boucher Happy Hour listeners. I'm Becky Kuffern and 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.200 I'm writing solo this week because last week I was 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.440 under the weather. This week, Michelle is unfortunately under the weather, 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.560 so I'm hoping next week we will both be back 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.680 ready for action. But I'm excited to be back again 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.400 this week. I missed y'all last week, and we have 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.079 a very excited episode for you because we have our 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.600 guest Arial on this week to get into everything with 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.680 her magical one on one date in Estonia, to get 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.920 the scoop on her connection with Zak. And she's been 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:39.600 someone who I actually really have enjoyed watching, so I 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.280 can't wait to pick her brain about everything. She is 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.320 not only levelheaded and mature, but I feel like she 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.680 also has this really sarcastic, witty side to her, so 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.000 I'm excited to speak with her. I hope you all 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.680 can't wait to hear from her too. But before we 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.080 bring Ariel on, let's just do a little catchup. It's 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.160 been a hot second since I was here with you all. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:07.000 Life has been good. I am excited to announce that 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:11.000 our house is almost almost to the finish line. We 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.640 have been working on it tiresly, and when I say we, 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.000 I mean Thomas and I have been just complaining about 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.520 it since July. But we are near the finish line. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.000 We probably have like a week or two to go 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.240 and then it's just finally unpacking and getting settled. So 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.360 we're excited. And speaking of Finnish lines, another fun thing 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.800 to share with you all is that Thomas just ran 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:37.160 his first official half marathon in Vegas this past weekend. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.640 We're still here kind of just recuperating and recovering and 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:44.600 letting him rest, but if anyone follows him on social media, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.959 just give him a shout out to tell him congrats. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.680 He actually crushed that half marathon. I was so proud 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.720 of him. I actually started tearing up watching him cross 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.240 that finish line. But it was very fun to see. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.600 I don't know how many of our listeners out there 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.559 are runners themselves. I am personally not so to see 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.880 anyone complete a five k or a ten k, or 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.040 the half marathon or I mean, damn, the full marathon. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.520 It's just so incredible and inspiring to me. So to 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.480 all of those Las Vegas runners who just did the 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.160 half marathon this past weekend, congrats to you. While y'all 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.679 crushed it. It was such a fun atmosphere, and that's 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.560 a little bit about our life right now. Nothing too 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:30.800 wild and crazy. But let's get into our little show 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:41.440 recap because that's obviously what we're here for. And this 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.679 week was fun. We saw the cast and crew had 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:49.120 to Estonia. It looked beautiful, and I feel like it 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.639 was a great fresh start for them because they finally 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.399 got their bachelor back. Of course, he was sick last week, 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.480 which I can't even imagine being on a season where 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.440 a bachelor had COVID and was out for a week, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.520 because you already go through very very long periods of 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.560 time without seeing the lead during certain weeks, and so 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.239 to go for some of these women, they barely saw 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.799 him for two weeks. I can't even imagine how good 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.640 that was being in a fresh city, a fresh country, 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:20.280 ready to rock and roll with their bachelor. So let's 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.680 get into it. It started off on a high note. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.560 I was so glad to see our girl Charity finally 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.359 get that one on one date in person. I feel 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.320 like it's been a long time coming and I was 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.400 hoping she would get that date. I was like, damn, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.840 if he starts this week without giving Charity a date 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.440 when she missed it last week. I'm going to be 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:43.080 so bummed. But she got that date card and before 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.800 she goes on the date, I would say probably like 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.960 the most drama that took place of that episode took 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.280 place in those first couple of minutes and that is 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:56.680 when miss Kat stole Zach before heading out with Charity. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.240 And I actually am really interested to get everyone let's 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.760 take on this, So for all of our listeners, please 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.400 DM Boucher Happy Hour, DM Me'm I like actually want 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.360 to do a poll on Instagram to see people's thoughts 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.360 on this on if they thought this was a terrible move, 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.880 if they thought it was an okay move. I'm kind 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:23.200 of torn. I think in any scenario when somebody steals 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.000 the lead like that, of course it's going to ruffle feathers. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.280 Of course it's going to bother people. But I think, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:34.480 given to like this heightened situation where Charity had already 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.520 missed a one on one last week, it was finally 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.280 her time to chat with him, and like we'll not 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.040 even chat, like go on this full date with him. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.280 I think the timing on Cat's part was very much off, 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.360 but We've seen scenarios and I've lived through this too 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.599 during my time on The Bachelor, where you know timing, 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.320 you kind of have to make the most of the 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.640 timing and it's not always conducive to like what everyone 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:02.480 else wants. And so whether it's stealing somebody during a 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.120 cocktail party or even stealing somebody in the middle of 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.719 the row ceremony, I mean, like I had flashbacks twin 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:12.120 Crystal still are during a row ceremony one week. I 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:17.400 feel like it's always gonna piss people off. I understand that, 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.920 and so I can understand why some of the women, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.960 Brooklyn in particular, were very vocal about why that wasn't 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.400 the right move. But for me too, I'm kind of 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.279 coming at the standpoint of like it seemed a little 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.680 bit blown out of proportion, and maybe that's just me. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.240 And again, like I would love to hear everyone's thoughts 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.080 on this, because you know, it is what it is. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:43.320 You do have to make the most of it. And 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.600 at the end of the day, like when Kat did 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.560 steal Zach, he seemed to love it and he seemed 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.359 to appreciate it. It didn't seem like there was that 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.559 much time that she stole him for like, it seemed 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.760 pretty quick. He came back right away then went on 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.560 lovely romantic date with Charity, And so that's how I'm 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.080 looking at it. It's like if Zach didn't mind it 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:10.000 and liked it and appreciated that bold move, like that's 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.000 all that it really comes down to you. I think 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.240 I was also thinking like the week before when Zach 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.200 was sick, we saw a scenario where Katie stuck out 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.320 of her room and went to go talk to him 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.279 and spent some time with him just through the door, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.640 and she probably had way more time with him during 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.239 that moment, but because the women didn't know about it, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.320 it wasn't that big of a deal. But like, the 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.600 situation still somewhat the same, where people are going out 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:40.400 of their way to steal time with him. But all 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.200 of that being said, I did feel like it was 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:44.839 not the right time. I did feel for a Charity 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.599 where she's so excited to finally see this guy again 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.120 and she's been long awaiting this date, and you know 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.400 she's has to be left waiting a little bit longer. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.960 So all this to say, we are happy that Charity 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.719 finally had this date with Zach. It seemed very romantic. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.360 I like Charity. I have been a fan of Charity 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.599 since we had her on the podcast a few weeks ago. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.240 You all know my take and Michelle Steake we started 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.440 a hashtag charity for Bacherette. So I'm glad she finally 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:18.720 had her moment and was able to just spend finally 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.880 uninterrupted time with him. So that was the first state 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.200 to kick off Estonia. We obviously then get into the 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:33.520 group date, which had some witchy juju vibes. It was 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.920 a very interesting choice for a group date. I feel 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.680 like we see the women go into the middle of 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.640 the forest and they are saging each other and they're 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:50.760 looking through candlelight into Zach's eyes. I mean, it is 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.840 what it is. I think like the main thing that 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.800 we all took away from this date was the fact 0:07:54.920 --> 0:08:01.040 that like it seemed off with Captain Brooklyn there. So yeah, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.800 group date was an interesting one. And then that night 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.600 we saw Jess go home, which I don't think anyone 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.880 was expecting. It seemed pretty abrupt. So Jess was one 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.280 of the last women who had not had a one 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:20.120 on one so much so that it really got to 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.680 her and she brought that up to Zach that night, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.880 obviously we saw her go home, and to me, it 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.800 was an interesting conversation because I feel like Zach kind 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.120 of flip flopped like in his responses during that conversation 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.240 when Jess brought up like wanting that an uninterrupted time 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.280 and spending that quality time to get to know someone 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.840 like I totally could see where she's coming from. Very 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.720 valid points. You, of course at this point want to 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.640 form a strong connection, which they necessarily hadn't, and at 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.640 one point Zach was like, well, it's not just about 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.040 the one on one time, and like, I feel like 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.920 we have a great connection, so I'm going off of that. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.800 But then at the end of the conversation, right before 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.200 he sent her home, he was like, yeah, maybe the 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.920 connection's not strong. So I'm like, well, what is it, Like, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.120 what are you feeling. I think he was very caught 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.600 off guard during this conversation and didn't quite know how 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.000 to handle it. I think had it maybe been in 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.000 a different scenario and they had more time to really 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.240 like talk it through and think about what they wanted 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.160 to say, I don't know if she would have gone 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.320 home at that point, but we did see her go 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.240 home and some of the women were very shocked, very upset. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.800 You know what that is the show people go home unfortunately, 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.920 which is also crazy to think that now we're in 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.160 week six and we only have seven women left. I 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:38.560 feel like the women aren't going fast, which it's strange 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.559 to see because I feel like there's now very few women. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.080 But I actually kind of like because you get to 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.120 know them more, and as the weeks go on, I 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:46.680 think we're going to be able to see more of 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.120 their personalities and like really get to know their backstories, 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:54.280 which I as a viewer can appreciate. But that was 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.240 basically most of the show. Obviously, Ariel has her one 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:58.800 on one date which we were going to get into 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.600 with her very short. Again, I cannot wait to have 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.280 her on, so I think with that, everyone, let's get 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:10.720 Ariel on Happy Hour. Okay, well, welcome to Happy Hour. Ariel. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.200 We're so excited to have you here. I have to ask, 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.320 because I start out with all of the new customers, 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:20.560 is this the first podcast you've ever done? Yes? Actually, yes, 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.719 very excited. Don't be nervous. It's all fun. It's it's 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.880 super lighthearted. It's literally just a girl chat for like 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:31.120 an hour and to all of our listeners who well, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.240 you obviously missed it because we were recording this part. 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.160 But when Ariel just came on, we were talking. We 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.280 were joking about like trying to figure out technology, and 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.640 she called herself a boomer, which I very much relate 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.640 to because I'm always like, I'm too old for any 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.199 sort of technology. Um, but turns out you're you are millennial. Correct, 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.840 technically I'm an millenial, but I feel like a gen 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.960 Z at heart. Okay, gen Z at heart. So you 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.400 are twenty eight? Were you one of the older women 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:59.280 in the house? Um, Most of the women were about 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:03.360 similar age, some are were twenty seven, somewhere twenty, but 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.400 it didn't really feel like an age difference. But I'd 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.480 say it was probably in the middle, Okay. And I 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.920 hate asking that. I'm not trying to put like any 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.680 sort of stigma on like age at all, because Michelle 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.440 and I are definitely against that. But I was actually 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.319 your same age when I was filming, and we had 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.200 such a wide array of age ages on our season, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.160 so I just didn't know where you felt. But but 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.400 I had said before you came on, I was like, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.120 Ariel just seems so grounded, So mature, but I was like, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:33.800 she also has this like very witty, sarcastic side that 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.960 we see come out, which I really appreciate. So that's 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.800 why I'm so excited to have you on. How has 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.720 it been just life in general, now that you're back 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.000 in the real world and now watching yourself on the 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.240 big screen back as a season airs. I think it's 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.760 been shocking. I watch it sometimes friends, sometimes with family. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.880 I feel like it's always kind of switching. So it's 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.480 crazy to see everything that I experienced finally on screen 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.120 and then you're seeing it for the first time with 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.000 everyone else. So I feel like it's like definitely been 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.079 like a crazy adjustment, just coming out of everything, kind 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.719 of taking some time to myself, actually being very antisocial 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.720 for a period of time, and then really diving back 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.520 into like just being excited about everything. I love watching 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.960 everything back. I love seeing it play back. It's like 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.199 I have a lot of things that I forgot. I said, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.840 oh yeah, when you're in those sleep deprived moments, exactly 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.920 what I'm like landon. So I feel like it's been 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.640 very funny for everyone to see my personality come through. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.880 So my true friends really see me as they always 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.400 see me and then people that don't as well. I 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.559 didn't know she had it in her, but you're hilarious. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.080 The part where you started though, and we'll get into 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:45.959 the one on one date that you just had with him, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.480 but the part where you started where you met him 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.280 and he was like, look, look, we're in the countryside 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.120 of Estonia, and You're like, really, I thought we were 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.840 in Jersey. I was cackling. I was like, this is 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.520 the this is the witty banter we need. So you 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.200 said that you've been watching some episodes with your family. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.760 Do you ever have to warn them, like, hey, mom 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.760 and dad, maybe close your eyes during this part or 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.000 like fast forward this scene. I try not to because 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.080 usually when I'm not with them, they watched so many 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.440 other of their friends. So I feel like I've just 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.800 had to tell them nothing and let them go in blind. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:26.120 They can like complain after ye, but I feel like 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.839 they are just so excited to see me at all. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.040 I swear they do not understand what I've done. That 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.640 I'm first generation. I come from like a Ukrainian family, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.560 and I feel like they just are so excited to 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.920 just see me on the screen that they don't even know, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.720 like what. They don't care what even happens. They're like, wow, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.320 your faith, it's my jad will literally seby photos of 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:54.839 half of my ear like they're proud of you. I 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.840 swear they are not being attention to the kissing or anything. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.240 My dad has made a few comments, but I feel 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.520 like so far it's been fairly PG, so they're kind 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.040 of they're just happy for me. Yes, they're just proud 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.800 of their baby being on the big screen. I love that. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.760 That makes it more enjoyable when they're not just like 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.840 ragging on you for all the little things. I had 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.280 some uncles who would watch it, and every time every 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.480 week I'd get taxed about, like I can't believe you 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.640 were kissing him after all those other girls. And I 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.840 was like, Okay, don't wade too much into it, or 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.760 just don't watch it. It's awkward. So how did you 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.880 get cast on the show? Were you a fan of 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.320 The Bachelor batch rip beforehand or was this totally like? 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.120 Were you going in blind? I went in completely blind. 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.760 I've seen episodes before, and definitely when I was like 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.800 a bit younger, I would watch the show. I feel 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.320 like my friends just fully applied me. I went in 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.120 blind and I actually got a phone call about the show, 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:46.720 not knowing that I was getting the call, so I 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.520 was very caught off guard. But yeah, basically, my friends 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.480 applied me, and I went into the whole thing blind 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.120 because I feel like that's the best things. So you 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.320 did not Binge watch any quick seasons before you left. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.760 I honestly try, but then I just didn't want to. 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.640 I don't want anything to change my experience or I 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.320 don't want to prepare for something when it comes to dating. Yeah, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.480 so like the less prepared you are for something, the 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.920 more authentically you are yourself. So I didn't want to 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.640 like sit there and like see previous seasons or see 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.440 what things kind of played out, because all those leads 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.480 are different and all those seasons will be different, so like, 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.160 as myself, I'll be very different than anyone else, so 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.840 there's no way to prepare or watch. I'm more so 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.760 watched seasons like a long time ago. Okay, I love that. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.720 I feel like I wish more people did that, honestly, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:37.240 because it just feels more real, more raw, less like 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.400 contride of oh I should be doing something this way, 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.040 or if I reacted an opposite way, it's going to 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.600 be good or bad. I love the mentality of just 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.680 going and blind and being yourself because, like you said, 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.080 like you're not going to know what the lead is 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.160 like until you meet him. You can watch past seasons, 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.720 but everyone's going to be completely different in person. So 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:02.680 how does Zac compare two other men that you've dated 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.320 in the past. Was he somewhat similar for your type? 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.400 Are completely out of the box different. I don't have 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.960 the type at all. If you do like a lineup 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.880 of all my exes, they all look very different or 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.640 just very different personality, but the one through line of 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.240 everyone is like their thoughtfulness and kindness. And I feel 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.080 like Zach brought out how I used to feel and 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.320 like my college relationships because made me feel like they're 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.920 young again. He made me feel like very kind of 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.160 like rejuvenated. It felt like kissing him for the first 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.520 time almost felt like middle school. So he definitely reminded 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.120 me of how I used to feel like before. A 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.200 lot of my past relationships hurt me or situations brought 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.760 me to kind of want to hide who I am 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.400 a little bit. In dating. I feel like over time 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.000 you developed like a very like thick skin, and you 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:45.960 also develop like a lot of barriers that you don't 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.120 really want people to see through. So I feel like 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.240 he tapped into a side of me that I kind 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.760 of hit away for a long time. Oh I love it, 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.440 And we did see you open up a bit more 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.040 on that one on one, which we will obviously get into, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:00.800 but before that, I just kind of want to talk 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.800 about like your initial journey meeting Zach coming out of 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.280 the limo. You were the queen of group dates for 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.720 a while because it was what week six that you 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.399 got this first one on one? So what had what 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.800 had been up until the one on one? Your favorite 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:21.879 date with all the women? Um, definitely not the football date, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.240 and I did care the first three seconds. I don't 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.840 know I had that power. I think the Bahamas date 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.960 was really like wonderful despite like everything happen. I honestly 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.840 always stepped into drauma after it had happened, so it 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.679 was always very confused. I feel like, if you have 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.520 freeze frames of me, I'm like looking left and right, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.199 don't know where I am or what's going on. So 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.880 I really enjoyed like the entire day. I really enjoyed 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.560 like feeling carefree. It felt almost like the pool party 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.840 in a way, but we got to be ourselves. Like, 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.199 whenever you're more dressed up, or even Zach is more 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.520 dressed up, people aren't going to be like they're gonna 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.600 be a little bit stuffier sometimes, So like dance on 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.480 the beach to beating all these foods. It was a 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.680 very like beautiful scenery as well as like a really 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.480 nice experience with all the other women, so laid back, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.639 and I feel like it was I like the dates 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.640 where they feel like they could actually happen in real life, right, 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.679 Like you're not always going to be flying into helicopter 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.399 or on a hot air balloon or like on a yacht, 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.600 but the dates like that could have happened in real life. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.600 You and Zach could have just been walking on this beach, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.960 joined this party, had some great food, great drinks, great music, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.120 and those down to earth ones I feel like are 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.560 always the best because you can kind of just relax 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:37.119 and like you forget about the cameras for a second. Okay, 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.600 so the Bahamas that did seem like a great one. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.480 The one that probably was not at the top of 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.640 the list, though, was when you headed to London. That 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.000 was a crazy week. Obviously, Zach had COVID couldn't do 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.679 anything with you on that date. What was since it 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.600 was derailed and you heard the news that Zach wasn't 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.000 feeling well and wouldn't be joining that day, what were 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.880 you first feeling when you heard that, Like, oh shit, 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:00.280 we're not going to see him at all this week. 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.720 I feel like the second you find out that someone's 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.840 not feeling well, you think about how they're feeling. So 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.760 I definitely wanted to make sure he was okay. And 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.200 there's only so much I can do right in that situation. 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.960 So I was just feeling bad for him because he's 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.840 like completely sequestered in his room. He's by himself. I'm 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.399 sure he's feeling so many emotions that everything that we 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.400 might be feeling, he's feeling tenfold because he's alone. So 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.280 I just felt bad for him. I wanted to make 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.920 sure he was okay. I want to make sure his 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.239 symptoms weren't too severe, and I just wanted to make 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:31.439 sure he wasn't feeling so completely isolated by himself. That's sweet? 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.359 Do you know? Oh? I actually have a two part question. One, 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.640 did anyone find out that Katie stepped out and went 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.440 to his room? And like had that little date with him, 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:46.000 like behind the door. I don't think so. I think 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:47.960 we all thought of like different ways that we could 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.800 make him feel better, and I'll want it to be creative, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.720 like whether it be to make like a poem or 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.560 write something like we all tried to communicate with him 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.879 in all these ways, and one of her ideas was 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.960 a care package. Okay, okay, that was my second point. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.639 Then did anyone send him notes or anything just to 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.960 kind of brighten the day for him a little bit? 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.160 I did you personally send him anything? I think everyone 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.280 was thinking of doing that, and they were all thinking 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.040 of like, how can I make him feel better? How 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.120 can I be like thoughtful in this moment? So everyone 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:18.920 wrote like a little thing or tried to do something. 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:20.640 I don't know as many details because I didn't really 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.160 ask as people told me. So I tried to write 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.800 him like a crossword of everything that we've experienced so 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.960 far and more things about me, like so a crossword 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.560 that he could play than in his room when he 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.960 was sick. Yeah, I want him to have an activity 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.360