Speaker 1: What's a Boucher Happy Hour listeners. I'm Becky Kuffern and
Speaker 1: I'm writing solo this week because last week I was
Speaker 1: under the weather. This week, Michelle is unfortunately under the weather,
Speaker 1: so I'm hoping next week we will both be back
Speaker 1: ready for action. But I'm excited to be back again
Speaker 1: this week. I missed y'all last week, and we have
Speaker 1: a very excited episode for you because we have our
Speaker 1: guest Arial on this week to get into everything with
Speaker 1: her magical one on one date in Estonia, to get
Speaker 1: the scoop on her connection with Zak. And she's been
Speaker 1: someone who I actually really have enjoyed watching, so I
Speaker 1: can't wait to pick her brain about everything. She is
Speaker 1: not only levelheaded and mature, but I feel like she
Speaker 1: also has this really sarcastic, witty side to her, so
Speaker 1: I'm excited to speak with her. I hope you all
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear from her too. But before we
Speaker 1: bring Ariel on, let's just do a little catchup. It's
Speaker 1: been a hot second since I was here with you all.
Speaker 1: Life has been good. I am excited to announce that
Speaker 1: our house is almost almost to the finish line. We
Speaker 1: have been working on it tiresly, and when I say we,
Speaker 1: I mean Thomas and I have been just complaining about
Speaker 1: it since July. But we are near the finish line.
Speaker 1: We probably have like a week or two to go
Speaker 1: and then it's just finally unpacking and getting settled. So
Speaker 1: we're excited. And speaking of Finnish lines, another fun thing
Speaker 1: to share with you all is that Thomas just ran
Speaker 1: his first official half marathon in Vegas this past weekend.
Speaker 1: We're still here kind of just recuperating and recovering and
Speaker 1: letting him rest, but if anyone follows him on social media,
Speaker 1: just give him a shout out to tell him congrats.
Speaker 1: He actually crushed that half marathon. I was so proud
Speaker 1: of him. I actually started tearing up watching him cross
Speaker 1: that finish line. But it was very fun to see.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of our listeners out there
Speaker 1: are runners themselves. I am personally not so to see
Speaker 1: anyone complete a five k or a ten k, or
Speaker 1: the half marathon or I mean, damn, the full marathon.
Speaker 1: It's just so incredible and inspiring to me. So to
Speaker 1: all of those Las Vegas runners who just did the
Speaker 1: half marathon this past weekend, congrats to you. While y'all
Speaker 1: crushed it. It was such a fun atmosphere, and that's
Speaker 1: a little bit about our life right now. Nothing too
Speaker 1: wild and crazy. But let's get into our little show
Speaker 1: recap because that's obviously what we're here for. And this
Speaker 1: week was fun. We saw the cast and crew had
Speaker 1: to Estonia. It looked beautiful, and I feel like it
Speaker 1: was a great fresh start for them because they finally
Speaker 1: got their bachelor back. Of course, he was sick last week,
Speaker 1: which I can't even imagine being on a season where
Speaker 1: a bachelor had COVID and was out for a week,
Speaker 1: because you already go through very very long periods of
Speaker 1: time without seeing the lead during certain weeks, and so
Speaker 1: to go for some of these women, they barely saw
Speaker 1: him for two weeks. I can't even imagine how good
Speaker 1: that was being in a fresh city, a fresh country,
Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll with their bachelor. So let's
Speaker 1: get into it. It started off on a high note.
Speaker 1: I was so glad to see our girl Charity finally
Speaker 1: get that one on one date in person. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's been a long time coming and I was
Speaker 1: hoping she would get that date. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: if he starts this week without giving Charity a date
Speaker 1: when she missed it last week. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: so bummed. But she got that date card and before
Speaker 1: she goes on the date, I would say probably like
Speaker 1: the most drama that took place of that episode took
Speaker 1: place in those first couple of minutes and that is
Speaker 1: when miss Kat stole Zach before heading out with Charity.
Speaker 1: And I actually am really interested to get everyone let's
Speaker 1: take on this, So for all of our listeners, please
Speaker 1: DM Boucher Happy Hour, DM Me'm I like actually want
Speaker 1: to do a poll on Instagram to see people's thoughts
Speaker 1: on this on if they thought this was a terrible move,
Speaker 1: if they thought it was an okay move. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of torn. I think in any scenario when somebody steals
Speaker 1: the lead like that, of course it's going to ruffle feathers.
Speaker 1: Of course it's going to bother people. But I think,
Speaker 1: given to like this heightened situation where Charity had already
Speaker 1: missed a one on one last week, it was finally
Speaker 1: her time to chat with him, and like we'll not
Speaker 1: even chat, like go on this full date with him.
Speaker 1: I think the timing on Cat's part was very much off,
Speaker 1: but We've seen scenarios and I've lived through this too
Speaker 1: during my time on The Bachelor, where you know timing,
Speaker 1: you kind of have to make the most of the
Speaker 1: timing and it's not always conducive to like what everyone
Speaker 1: else wants. And so whether it's stealing somebody during a
Speaker 1: cocktail party or even stealing somebody in the middle of
Speaker 1: the row ceremony, I mean, like I had flashbacks twin
Speaker 1: Crystal still are during a row ceremony one week. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's always gonna piss people off. I understand that,
Speaker 1: and so I can understand why some of the women,
Speaker 1: Brooklyn in particular, were very vocal about why that wasn't
Speaker 1: the right move. But for me too, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: coming at the standpoint of like it seemed a little
Speaker 1: bit blown out of proportion, and maybe that's just me.
Speaker 1: And again, like I would love to hear everyone's thoughts
Speaker 1: on this, because you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: You do have to make the most of it. And
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like when Kat did
Speaker 1: steal Zach, he seemed to love it and he seemed
Speaker 1: to appreciate it. It didn't seem like there was that
Speaker 1: much time that she stole him for like, it seemed
Speaker 1: pretty quick. He came back right away then went on
Speaker 1: lovely romantic date with Charity, And so that's how I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it. It's like if Zach didn't mind it
Speaker 1: and liked it and appreciated that bold move, like that's
Speaker 1: all that it really comes down to you. I think
Speaker 1: I was also thinking like the week before when Zach
Speaker 1: was sick, we saw a scenario where Katie stuck out
Speaker 1: of her room and went to go talk to him
Speaker 1: and spent some time with him just through the door,
Speaker 1: and she probably had way more time with him during
Speaker 1: that moment, but because the women didn't know about it,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that big of a deal. But like, the
Speaker 1: situation still somewhat the same, where people are going out
Speaker 1: of their way to steal time with him. But all
Speaker 1: of that being said, I did feel like it was
Speaker 1: not the right time. I did feel for a Charity
Speaker 1: where she's so excited to finally see this guy again
Speaker 1: and she's been long awaiting this date, and you know
Speaker 1: she's has to be left waiting a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: So all this to say, we are happy that Charity
Speaker 1: finally had this date with Zach. It seemed very romantic.
Speaker 1: I like Charity. I have been a fan of Charity
Speaker 1: since we had her on the podcast a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: You all know my take and Michelle Steake we started
Speaker 1: a hashtag charity for Bacherette. So I'm glad she finally
Speaker 1: had her moment and was able to just spend finally
Speaker 1: uninterrupted time with him. So that was the first state
Speaker 1: to kick off Estonia. We obviously then get into the
Speaker 1: group date, which had some witchy juju vibes. It was
Speaker 1: a very interesting choice for a group date. I feel
Speaker 1: like we see the women go into the middle of
Speaker 1: the forest and they are saging each other and they're
Speaker 1: looking through candlelight into Zach's eyes. I mean, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. I think like the main thing that
Speaker 1: we all took away from this date was the fact
Speaker 1: that like it seemed off with Captain Brooklyn there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: group date was an interesting one. And then that night
Speaker 1: we saw Jess go home, which I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: was expecting. It seemed pretty abrupt. So Jess was one
Speaker 1: of the last women who had not had a one
Speaker 1: on one so much so that it really got to
Speaker 1: her and she brought that up to Zach that night,
Speaker 1: obviously we saw her go home, and to me, it
Speaker 1: was an interesting conversation because I feel like Zach kind
Speaker 1: of flip flopped like in his responses during that conversation
Speaker 1: when Jess brought up like wanting that an uninterrupted time
Speaker 1: and spending that quality time to get to know someone
Speaker 1: like I totally could see where she's coming from. Very
Speaker 1: valid points. You, of course at this point want to
Speaker 1: form a strong connection, which they necessarily hadn't, and at
Speaker 1: one point Zach was like, well, it's not just about
Speaker 1: the one on one time, and like, I feel like
Speaker 1: we have a great connection, so I'm going off of that.
Speaker 1: But then at the end of the conversation, right before
Speaker 1: he sent her home, he was like, yeah, maybe the
Speaker 1: connection's not strong. So I'm like, well, what is it, Like,
Speaker 1: what are you feeling. I think he was very caught
Speaker 1: off guard during this conversation and didn't quite know how
Speaker 1: to handle it. I think had it maybe been in
Speaker 1: a different scenario and they had more time to really
Speaker 1: like talk it through and think about what they wanted
Speaker 1: to say, I don't know if she would have gone
Speaker 1: home at that point, but we did see her go
Speaker 1: home and some of the women were very shocked, very upset.
Speaker 1: You know what that is the show people go home unfortunately,
Speaker 1: which is also crazy to think that now we're in
Speaker 1: week six and we only have seven women left. I
Speaker 1: feel like the women aren't going fast, which it's strange
Speaker 1: to see because I feel like there's now very few women.
Speaker 1: But I actually kind of like because you get to
Speaker 1: know them more, and as the weeks go on, I
Speaker 1: think we're going to be able to see more of
Speaker 1: their personalities and like really get to know their backstories,
Speaker 1: which I as a viewer can appreciate. But that was
Speaker 1: basically most of the show. Obviously, Ariel has her one
Speaker 1: on one date which we were going to get into
Speaker 1: with her very short. Again, I cannot wait to have
Speaker 1: her on, so I think with that, everyone, let's get
Speaker 1: Ariel on Happy Hour. Okay, well, welcome to Happy Hour. Ariel.
Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you here. I have to ask,
Speaker 1: because I start out with all of the new customers,
Speaker 1: is this the first podcast you've ever done? Yes? Actually, yes,
Speaker 1: very excited. Don't be nervous. It's all fun. It's it's
Speaker 1: super lighthearted. It's literally just a girl chat for like
Speaker 1: an hour and to all of our listeners who well,
Speaker 1: you obviously missed it because we were recording this part.
Speaker 1: But when Ariel just came on, we were talking. We
Speaker 1: were joking about like trying to figure out technology, and
Speaker 1: she called herself a boomer, which I very much relate
Speaker 1: to because I'm always like, I'm too old for any
Speaker 1: sort of technology. Um, but turns out you're you are millennial. Correct,
Speaker 1: technically I'm an millenial, but I feel like a gen
Speaker 1: Z at heart. Okay, gen Z at heart. So you
Speaker 1: are twenty eight? Were you one of the older women
Speaker 1: in the house? Um, Most of the women were about
Speaker 1: similar age, some are were twenty seven, somewhere twenty, but
Speaker 1: it didn't really feel like an age difference. But I'd
Speaker 1: say it was probably in the middle, Okay. And I
Speaker 1: hate asking that. I'm not trying to put like any
Speaker 1: sort of stigma on like age at all, because Michelle
Speaker 1: and I are definitely against that. But I was actually
Speaker 1: your same age when I was filming, and we had
Speaker 1: such a wide array of age ages on our season,
Speaker 1: so I just didn't know where you felt. But but
Speaker 1: I had said before you came on, I was like,
Speaker 1: Ariel just seems so grounded, So mature, but I was like,
Speaker 1: she also has this like very witty, sarcastic side that
Speaker 1: we see come out, which I really appreciate. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'm so excited to have you on. How has
Speaker 1: it been just life in general, now that you're back
Speaker 1: in the real world and now watching yourself on the
Speaker 1: big screen back as a season airs. I think it's
Speaker 1: been shocking. I watch it sometimes friends, sometimes with family.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's always kind of switching. So it's
Speaker 1: crazy to see everything that I experienced finally on screen
Speaker 1: and then you're seeing it for the first time with
Speaker 1: everyone else. So I feel like it's like definitely been
Speaker 1: like a crazy adjustment, just coming out of everything, kind
Speaker 1: of taking some time to myself, actually being very antisocial
Speaker 1: for a period of time, and then really diving back
Speaker 1: into like just being excited about everything. I love watching
Speaker 1: everything back. I love seeing it play back. It's like
Speaker 1: I have a lot of things that I forgot. I said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, when you're in those sleep deprived moments, exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm like landon. So I feel like it's been
Speaker 1: very funny for everyone to see my personality come through.
Speaker 1: So my true friends really see me as they always
Speaker 1: see me and then people that don't as well. I
Speaker 1: didn't know she had it in her, but you're hilarious.
Speaker 1: The part where you started though, and we'll get into
Speaker 1: the one on one date that you just had with him,
Speaker 1: but the part where you started where you met him
Speaker 1: and he was like, look, look, we're in the countryside
Speaker 1: of Estonia, and You're like, really, I thought we were
Speaker 1: in Jersey. I was cackling. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the this is the witty banter we need. So you
Speaker 1: said that you've been watching some episodes with your family.
Speaker 1: Do you ever have to warn them, like, hey, mom
Speaker 1: and dad, maybe close your eyes during this part or
Speaker 1: like fast forward this scene. I try not to because
Speaker 1: usually when I'm not with them, they watched so many
Speaker 1: other of their friends. So I feel like I've just
Speaker 1: had to tell them nothing and let them go in blind.
Speaker 1: They can like complain after ye, but I feel like
Speaker 1: they are just so excited to see me at all.
Speaker 1: I swear they do not understand what I've done. That
Speaker 1: I'm first generation. I come from like a Ukrainian family,
Speaker 1: and I feel like they just are so excited to
Speaker 1: just see me on the screen that they don't even know,
Speaker 1: like what. They don't care what even happens. They're like, wow,
Speaker 1: your faith, it's my jad will literally seby photos of
Speaker 1: half of my ear like they're proud of you. I
Speaker 1: swear they are not being attention to the kissing or anything.
Speaker 1: My dad has made a few comments, but I feel
Speaker 1: like so far it's been fairly PG, so they're kind
Speaker 1: of they're just happy for me. Yes, they're just proud
Speaker 1: of their baby being on the big screen. I love that.
Speaker 1: That makes it more enjoyable when they're not just like
Speaker 1: ragging on you for all the little things. I had
Speaker 1: some uncles who would watch it, and every time every
Speaker 1: week I'd get taxed about, like I can't believe you
Speaker 1: were kissing him after all those other girls. And I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, don't wade too much into it, or
Speaker 1: just don't watch it. It's awkward. So how did you
Speaker 1: get cast on the show? Were you a fan of
Speaker 1: The Bachelor batch rip beforehand or was this totally like?
Speaker 1: Were you going in blind? I went in completely blind.
Speaker 1: I've seen episodes before, and definitely when I was like
Speaker 1: a bit younger, I would watch the show. I feel
Speaker 1: like my friends just fully applied me. I went in
Speaker 1: blind and I actually got a phone call about the show,
Speaker 1: not knowing that I was getting the call, so I
Speaker 1: was very caught off guard. But yeah, basically, my friends
Speaker 1: applied me, and I went into the whole thing blind
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's the best things. So you
Speaker 1: did not Binge watch any quick seasons before you left.
Speaker 1: I honestly try, but then I just didn't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to change my experience or I
Speaker 1: don't want to prepare for something when it comes to dating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so like the less prepared you are for something, the
Speaker 1: more authentically you are yourself. So I didn't want to
Speaker 1: like sit there and like see previous seasons or see
Speaker 1: what things kind of played out, because all those leads
Speaker 1: are different and all those seasons will be different, so like,
Speaker 1: as myself, I'll be very different than anyone else, so
Speaker 1: there's no way to prepare or watch. I'm more so
Speaker 1: watched seasons like a long time ago. Okay, I love that.
Speaker 1: I feel like I wish more people did that, honestly,
Speaker 1: because it just feels more real, more raw, less like
Speaker 1: contride of oh I should be doing something this way,
Speaker 1: or if I reacted an opposite way, it's going to
Speaker 1: be good or bad. I love the mentality of just
Speaker 1: going and blind and being yourself because, like you said,
Speaker 1: like you're not going to know what the lead is
Speaker 1: like until you meet him. You can watch past seasons,
Speaker 1: but everyone's going to be completely different in person. So
Speaker 1: how does Zac compare two other men that you've dated
Speaker 1: in the past. Was he somewhat similar for your type?
Speaker 1: Are completely out of the box different. I don't have
Speaker 1: the type at all. If you do like a lineup
Speaker 1: of all my exes, they all look very different or
Speaker 1: just very different personality, but the one through line of
Speaker 1: everyone is like their thoughtfulness and kindness. And I feel
Speaker 1: like Zach brought out how I used to feel and
Speaker 1: like my college relationships because made me feel like they're
Speaker 1: young again. He made me feel like very kind of
Speaker 1: like rejuvenated. It felt like kissing him for the first
Speaker 1: time almost felt like middle school. So he definitely reminded
Speaker 1: me of how I used to feel like before. A
Speaker 1: lot of my past relationships hurt me or situations brought
Speaker 1: me to kind of want to hide who I am
Speaker 1: a little bit. In dating. I feel like over time
Speaker 1: you developed like a very like thick skin, and you
Speaker 1: also develop like a lot of barriers that you don't
Speaker 1: really want people to see through. So I feel like
Speaker 1: he tapped into a side of me that I kind
Speaker 1: of hit away for a long time. Oh I love it,
Speaker 1: And we did see you open up a bit more
Speaker 1: on that one on one, which we will obviously get into,
Speaker 1: but before that, I just kind of want to talk
Speaker 1: about like your initial journey meeting Zach coming out of
Speaker 1: the limo. You were the queen of group dates for
Speaker 1: a while because it was what week six that you
Speaker 1: got this first one on one? So what had what
Speaker 1: had been up until the one on one? Your favorite
Speaker 1: date with all the women? Um, definitely not the football date,
Speaker 1: and I did care the first three seconds. I don't
Speaker 1: know I had that power. I think the Bahamas date
Speaker 1: was really like wonderful despite like everything happen. I honestly
Speaker 1: always stepped into drauma after it had happened, so it
Speaker 1: was always very confused. I feel like, if you have
Speaker 1: freeze frames of me, I'm like looking left and right,
Speaker 1: don't know where I am or what's going on. So
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed like the entire day. I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: like feeling carefree. It felt almost like the pool party
Speaker 1: in a way, but we got to be ourselves. Like,
Speaker 1: whenever you're more dressed up, or even Zach is more
Speaker 1: dressed up, people aren't going to be like they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a little bit stuffier sometimes, So like dance on
Speaker 1: the beach to beating all these foods. It was a
Speaker 1: very like beautiful scenery as well as like a really
Speaker 1: nice experience with all the other women, so laid back,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it was I like the dates
Speaker 1: where they feel like they could actually happen in real life, right,
Speaker 1: Like you're not always going to be flying into helicopter
Speaker 1: or on a hot air balloon or like on a yacht,
Speaker 1: but the dates like that could have happened in real life.
Speaker 1: You and Zach could have just been walking on this beach,
Speaker 1: joined this party, had some great food, great drinks, great music,
Speaker 1: and those down to earth ones I feel like are
Speaker 1: always the best because you can kind of just relax
Speaker 1: and like you forget about the cameras for a second. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the Bahamas that did seem like a great one.
Speaker 1: The one that probably was not at the top of
Speaker 1: the list, though, was when you headed to London. That
Speaker 1: was a crazy week. Obviously, Zach had COVID couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything with you on that date. What was since it
Speaker 1: was derailed and you heard the news that Zach wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling well and wouldn't be joining that day, what were
Speaker 1: you first feeling when you heard that, Like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: we're not going to see him at all this week.
Speaker 1: I feel like the second you find out that someone's
Speaker 1: not feeling well, you think about how they're feeling. So
Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to make sure he was okay. And
Speaker 1: there's only so much I can do right in that situation.
Speaker 1: So I was just feeling bad for him because he's
Speaker 1: like completely sequestered in his room. He's by himself. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's feeling so many emotions that everything that we
Speaker 1: might be feeling, he's feeling tenfold because he's alone. So
Speaker 1: I just felt bad for him. I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure he was okay. I want to make sure his
Speaker 1: symptoms weren't too severe, and I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure he wasn't feeling so completely isolated by himself. That's sweet?
Speaker 1: Do you know? Oh? I actually have a two part question. One,
Speaker 1: did anyone find out that Katie stepped out and went
Speaker 1: to his room? And like had that little date with him,
Speaker 1: like behind the door. I don't think so. I think
Speaker 1: we all thought of like different ways that we could
Speaker 1: make him feel better, and I'll want it to be creative,
Speaker 1: like whether it be to make like a poem or
Speaker 1: write something like we all tried to communicate with him
Speaker 1: in all these ways, and one of her ideas was
Speaker 1: a care package. Okay, okay, that was my second point.
Speaker 1: Then did anyone send him notes or anything just to
Speaker 1: kind of brighten the day for him a little bit?
Speaker 1: I did you personally send him anything? I think everyone
Speaker 1: was thinking of doing that, and they were all thinking
Speaker 1: of like, how can I make him feel better? How
Speaker 1: can I be like thoughtful in this moment? So everyone
Speaker 1: wrote like a little thing or tried to do something.
Speaker 1: I don't know as many details because I didn't really
Speaker 1: ask as people told me. So I tried to write
Speaker 1: him like a crossword of everything that we've experienced so
Speaker 1: far and more things about me, like so a crossword
Speaker 1: that he could play than in his room when he
Speaker 1: was sick. Yeah, I want him to have an activity
Speaker 1: and be like so not nothing too difficult, because I'm
Speaker 1: sure he was just feeling like very ill. So I
Speaker 1: wanted too intense with something cute, or he could still
Speaker 1: be getting to know each other. But we're also it
Speaker 1: was a good lead up to like our next date
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, what a good idea. Damn I want
Speaker 1: I want Ariel on my season. So when you heard
Speaker 1: that it was just going to be the girls on
Speaker 1: this group date, what were you feeling like? Were you like, okay,
Speaker 1: like we can kind of just chill explore London. I
Speaker 1: think you should always make the most of everything you're given.
Speaker 1: So we're lucky to still be out in London. We're
Speaker 1: lucky to be in London altogether, and unfortunately he can't
Speaker 1: go out, so we also have an opportunity where we
Speaker 1: can get to know each other more. We can like
Speaker 1: think of more things we want to stay to zac
Speaker 1: before we see him. Our time is still limited and
Speaker 1: precious with him, so I feel like it let us
Speaker 1: like enjoy the day. It let us. It was so
Speaker 1: unfortunate he couldn't be there for either part, both like
Speaker 1: the day date and the cocktail ceremony as well, But
Speaker 1: it makes you just miss him more and value the
Speaker 1: time we had together more as well. So I never
Speaker 1: want to be in a bad headspace when I'm outside,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying things. I want to make the most out
Speaker 1: of everything always. That's why I even did the show
Speaker 1: in the first place. I just want to make the
Speaker 1: most out of every opportunity that I'm given, And especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to dating, you just want to be
Speaker 1: like a positive force for someone. And I feel like,
Speaker 1: when morale is low amongst the women, I also want
Speaker 1: to make sure everyone was like in a better headspace. Damn,
Speaker 1: I feel like you and Charity. We had Charity on
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and she was like, because
Speaker 1: obviously she's at the therapist and she would do like
Speaker 1: all these comming exercises with the women. I feel like
Speaker 1: you would have been good moral too, to just kind
Speaker 1: of like keep spirits up and keep things going and
Speaker 1: like we'll see him soon, Like let's still have fun here.
Speaker 1: What was the virtual cocktail party like, because that's the
Speaker 1: first time we've ever seen that, I think ever in
Speaker 1: vacher Nation, and I'm sure it was a little weird.
Speaker 1: Obviously we're all used to zooms and facetimes these days,
Speaker 1: but to like do that dating wise has got to
Speaker 1: be a little bit hard. I think again, it's a
Speaker 1: situation of like I've always done long distance. For example,
Speaker 1: I've always been in relationships or the other person lived
Speaker 1: somewhere else, or when I've been traveling, we've made like
Speaker 1: the most we could of the time we have. So
Speaker 1: I personally felt like it's really weird to not be
Speaker 1: in person together. It doesn't feel as nice as it
Speaker 1: always does to be like touching someone, to be physical
Speaker 1: with them, to even like yeah, their mind a bit
Speaker 1: more interpersonally. But I feel like it was nice that
Speaker 1: he had time to give us at all. Week That week,
Speaker 1: I was like taking breadcrumbs. I was taking anything that
Speaker 1: I could. At that point, we basically didn't have two
Speaker 1: dates in a way, so I felt really good that
Speaker 1: we were able to still talk. And I kind of
Speaker 1: did a whole like James Bond thing was a deleted scene,
Speaker 1: so I brought on like a little shaker situation. I
Speaker 1: think I'm pretty sure it like hit the ceiling and
Speaker 1: hit the ground, bring back this footage. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: good at making a Gin and tonic. I've decided I'm
Speaker 1: not the Bond Bill and I thought I was. But
Speaker 1: it was nice to do like a little bit and
Speaker 1: like be playful and like I felt like, I couldn't
Speaker 1: do that in the same wine in person because maybe
Speaker 1: you'll see that the shaker hit the ceiling. But it
Speaker 1: was nice to get like creative. It was nice to
Speaker 1: try to like also bring it back to like the
Speaker 1: location when we were at make it more like cinematic
Speaker 1: if you will. So I as weird as it was,
Speaker 1: I was happy we like got the time with him.
Speaker 1: I was happy he was feeling in better spirits and
Speaker 1: he wasn't feeling like he had to be in bed anymore. Right,
Speaker 1: how much time did everyone get with him? Because usually
Speaker 1: during those cocked parties, I mean, you have anywhere from
Speaker 1: what like five to sometimes twenty five minutes? Did you? So?
Speaker 1: Did most women have a good chunk of time to
Speaker 1: chat with him during that virtual one? Yeah, he made
Speaker 1: a lot of time for everyone. I remember it being
Speaker 1: at least like thirty minutes from when I remember it
Speaker 1: felt like, okay, yeah, I'm pretty sure we got thirty
Speaker 1: minutes at least. And it actually was nice because usually
Speaker 1: during ceremonies you don't know if you'll get time. You
Speaker 1: don't have to go, So this was like you you
Speaker 1: definitely get time. You have this allotted moment with this person.
Speaker 1: So it felt really nice to have that and to
Speaker 1: know for sure you're going to get that time no
Speaker 1: matter what, because there are some kil ceremonies where I
Speaker 1: didn't get any time at all, and I guess the
Speaker 1: bonus and this one was probably no one was able
Speaker 1: to come in and steal him. He's already not there. Um.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that until now. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: get into Estonia, because this is obviously a very fun
Speaker 1: week for you. You finally get to travel. I called
Speaker 1: it like a reset for everyone. Like, obviously, no one
Speaker 1: saw Zach the week before besides Gabby, so it was
Speaker 1: a fresh start in a new country. You obviously get
Speaker 1: to see your boyfriend again. So what were your first
Speaker 1: thoughts when you found out you were going to Estonia?
Speaker 1: Have you ever been there before? No, I actually haven't.
Speaker 1: I know about the Baltics in general and that like
Speaker 1: territory just because I'm Eastern European, but I've never been there,
Speaker 1: and I never honestly knew the extent of the culture there.
Speaker 1: So it was so beautiful and the food was amazing.
Speaker 1: It looked really beautiful. I've heard great things about Estonia,
Speaker 1: so I'm glad that they were able to take you
Speaker 1: there for the show going into this week, Like, what
Speaker 1: were your hopes? Because you were incorrect me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: but you were one of I think three women who
Speaker 1: had not yet received the one on one. Correct, I
Speaker 1: think it was you, Jess and Greer. Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 1: what were you expecting, Like, did you have a feeling
Speaker 1: you'd maybe get the one on one that week? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were hopeful. I'm always hopeful, but I
Speaker 1: genuinely really didn't think I was going to get it. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was announced. I'm pretty sure I gave like the
Speaker 1: least gracious reaction imaginable. I feel like girls are always
Speaker 1: like looking down and smiling and very like they like curtsy.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I definitely wasn't like the most grateful,
Speaker 1: so I'm so excited. I was just so stunned. So
Speaker 1: I feel like when you're you've become so patient over time,
Speaker 1: you're always like waiting for that opportunity and moment. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'd had so much patience by that point,
Speaker 1: So by that point, I just it had been so
Speaker 1: many times that I hadn't gotten the one on one,
Speaker 1: So to finally get it. I think I was just
Speaker 1: so shocked but so so excited. Yeah. How fun. So
Speaker 1: before we get into like the actual details of the date,
Speaker 1: a little drama went down right before Charity's date, and
Speaker 1: that was like the moment when Kat had pulled Zack aside,
Speaker 1: took him out of the room obviously like Charity was
Speaker 1: all ready to go. What were your thoughts in that moment,
Speaker 1: because you know, we saw some women like Brooklyn who
Speaker 1: were really rubbed the wrong way. Where were you at?
Speaker 1: Were you like, okay, like it's it's that that this
Speaker 1: is a game, but like the name of the game
Speaker 1: in a way, or were you kind of very put
Speaker 1: off too? I think the best way to give advice
Speaker 1: to someone and relate to them, because I felt like
Speaker 1: at some point I kind of had to step in
Speaker 1: is to understand where they're coming from. So I understood
Speaker 1: where where both women were coming from. I felt like
Speaker 1: the action itself was not respectful, and if I were
Speaker 1: in the position of Charity, it would hurt like my feelings.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I really wanted to for Kat
Speaker 1: and I to be on the same understanding and I
Speaker 1: wanted to relate to her and have her not attacked
Speaker 1: because I felt like in the situation with Brooklyn it
Speaker 1: was it was much more aggressive in a group setting.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of sensitivities for like one person
Speaker 1: being called out in a group setting. Just don't like
Speaker 1: the way that feels. I don't like for it to
Speaker 1: be like a five against one, So that to sensitivity
Speaker 1: of mine. And then I just wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that Kat understood that we still like support her, We're
Speaker 1: still like, like our season was just so respectful and kind,
Speaker 1: so that outside of the scope of what we really
Speaker 1: experienced to such an extent before, especially the smaller group.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to make sure that Kat understood. Listen,
Speaker 1: what you did was not an action that I line with.
Speaker 1: I don't agree. I wouldn't do something like this. It's okay,
Speaker 1: I understand it. The setting makes like we're all pursuing
Speaker 1: the same person. The setting makes people feel very heightened emotions.
Speaker 1: We're all like, we all want the time with him,
Speaker 1: we all want the time with Zach, but this is
Speaker 1: just not the way you go about doing that. And
Speaker 1: this is just not the kindest thing to do to
Speaker 1: someone before they have their day. Everyone else gets their day,
Speaker 1: so you have to be patient and you have to
Speaker 1: make sure that you're not like encroaching on someone else's time,
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't want that to happen to you, right.
Speaker 1: I just really didn't like that because I wouldn't do
Speaker 1: that to someone else, and I wouldn't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's even in line with the personality that Kat has
Speaker 1: and the person that she is, So I felt like
Speaker 1: she was acting outside the scope of her like empathy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely agree that this being in this situation, this
Speaker 1: scenario where you're so removed from any sort of normalcy
Speaker 1: that you experience on a daily life, like, it really
Speaker 1: does heighten everything, Like it makes you do things and
Speaker 1: say things that you wouldn't necessarily do in a normal scenario.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting too, because I was trying to explain
Speaker 1: to the listeners before we had you on, like there's
Speaker 1: a time and a place for things, and you know,
Speaker 1: people are always stealing the lead, whether that's before a date,
Speaker 1: whether that's like in the middle of a row ceremony.
Speaker 1: We've seen that happen as well. And it's tough because
Speaker 1: I felt like, and this is just for me, I
Speaker 1: felt like it was a little bit blown out of proportion.
Speaker 1: In the way that Brooklyn reacted, But I also get it, like,
Speaker 1: especially for a charity. She already missed one on one
Speaker 1: date last week when Zach was sick. She already had
Speaker 1: to deal with like the whole thing at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season when Christina kind of put her down
Speaker 1: when she got the group date rose And now this,
Speaker 1: I was like, this, poor girl cannot catch a break.
Speaker 1: This is not the time for Charity. But again, like,
Speaker 1: is there ever really a time? And you were the
Speaker 1: one to talk with Kat, like during the aftermath of
Speaker 1: the whole Brooklyn to Bible correct, I thought everyone individually,
Speaker 1: So I really wanted to understand where everyone was coming from.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I kind of stepped in in
Speaker 1: this way as an accidental mediator, which is not the
Speaker 1: most fun position, But I feel like I get where
Speaker 1: everyone's coming from. So I get where Bookly's coming from
Speaker 1: because she's protecting her friend. I get where Cats coming
Speaker 1: from because she's protecting her relationship. And I get where
Speaker 1: Charity's coming from because she's just as you said, she
Speaker 1: didn't get the one on one she's had. She's been
Speaker 1: so patient and so gracious about everything. She was the
Speaker 1: one rounding sessions with us. We were honestly, she and
Speaker 1: I really connected and I really related to her in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and I felt like she it
Speaker 1: was this was her moment, so I didn't want that
Speaker 1: to be overshadowed either. So and just a hard position
Speaker 1: to be in because we all got so close to
Speaker 1: so many ways. But it's so many different personality types
Speaker 1: in this, like melting pot in a way that are
Speaker 1: always written, so it's hard for everyone to act like
Speaker 1: their best self or always be like completely respectful to
Speaker 1: everyone else all the time. So I understand wanting to
Speaker 1: pull someone when you feel disconnected from them, but we
Speaker 1: were all feeling that same way in the group setting
Speaker 1: as well, like none of us had taken to him either.
Speaker 1: The last chance we had had was the cocktail ceremony.
Speaker 1: So I feel like, instead of what I'm talking a cat,
Speaker 1: instead of making her feel like she's being attacked, I
Speaker 1: just want her to feel like, I understand why you
Speaker 1: did it, but this is why it's not the best
Speaker 1: course of action, Why it's like, why this hurts other
Speaker 1: people's feelings sometimes to see outside of yourself, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're probably the best person that she
Speaker 1: could have chatted with in that scenario. Again, like very
Speaker 1: level headed, grounded, as you said, the mediator, whether you
Speaker 1: wanted to be or not, that was you. But things
Speaker 1: take a turn for the up because you get the daycard.
Speaker 1: What did your daycard read? Again? I actually I think
Speaker 1: it said, let's turn up the heat. Let's turn up
Speaker 1: the heat. So did you have any idea what this
Speaker 1: might entail? I did not, and I did not think
Speaker 1: it was going to be about panned out. I kind
Speaker 1: of had an idea because again in Eastern Europe there's
Speaker 1: a culture of like saunas and baths and things like that,
Speaker 1: and it's a very like holistic culture as well, so
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe it would be something of that nature.
Speaker 1: But I really never want to expect and whatever I
Speaker 1: would guess on any of the dates, I got everything
Speaker 1: so wrong guess where I did not. The football date
Speaker 1: was the most obvious. I didn't guess it at all.
Speaker 1: I was the worse at guessing who was going to
Speaker 1: get something or anything that happened. So I really had
Speaker 1: no idea, so I wasn't kind of blind, But it
Speaker 1: ended up being like the funniest best date ever, because
Speaker 1: as before, it's nice to not have like this stimulated,
Speaker 1: extremely romantic environment. I like to laugh with my partner.
Speaker 1: I liked to be able to be very comfortable and
Speaker 1: let loose, and I feel like, as unusual as that
Speaker 1: setting was, it's what made us get closer. It really
Speaker 1: forced you to, yeah, get closer, and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: push you outside of the comfort zone a little bit.
Speaker 1: What was that like when you found out that you
Speaker 1: were not only going to be doing a sauna, but
Speaker 1: it was the nude sauna. The funniest thing is that
Speaker 1: before I was very nervous to go into the show.
Speaker 1: I really debate if I was going to do it
Speaker 1: or not. My parents had like a family meeting. They
Speaker 1: sat me down on whether I was going to do
Speaker 1: it or not, and my dad gave a speech and
Speaker 1: he was like, you cannot do the show. There will
Speaker 1: be naked people. They will force you the best naked people.
Speaker 1: It was not the I saw the show. It is
Speaker 1: not appropriate. I swear he watched Game of Thrones. I'm
Speaker 1: straight up on it was. I thought you were going
Speaker 1: to the Game of Throne, said the Bachelor. Really, I
Speaker 1: don't know what show he watched, Like this is on ABC,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about. But he was like,
Speaker 1: they will take you into rooms and there will be
Speaker 1: naked people everywhere. I'm doing like a grou accent, so
Speaker 1: I'm done with that now, but he so he gets it,
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking about that. The weirdest thing is that
Speaker 1: I thought about my father when the nudists were announced,
Speaker 1: because he warned me. He told me that there would
Speaker 1: be naked people on the show, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you're crazy, what are you talking about. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: the show regardless. So the fact that my dad was
Speaker 1: in my head when I saw two naked people is
Speaker 1: very weird for me, and I still think about a
Speaker 1: day my dad really got in my head because I
Speaker 1: remember just laughing at him for an hour, being what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? They're never I'm not I'm only
Speaker 1: going to be in a bathing suit at most, Like
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And then when the nudist
Speaker 1: came in like a bell. When mom and dad came in,
Speaker 1: that was the best thing to come in, and they
Speaker 1: weren't following you, like it wasn't just at the beginning,
Speaker 1: but like later on when you were sitting having this
Speaker 1: nice private moment in this tiny ass sauna, they just
Speaker 1: come in. They seemed very sweet, though, I will say
Speaker 1: like it was like mom and dad were there. Obviously
Speaker 1: weird with the nude, but like they seemed so kind
Speaker 1: and like they were in love and you guys are
Speaker 1: fallen in love. So um yeah, okay, So if your
Speaker 1: dad was going through your mind when you heard about
Speaker 1: the nudists, when you actually came back from filming, and like,
Speaker 1: we're explaining everything to your family, like when when the
Speaker 1: Sonia week came up, did you explain, like, hey, dad,
Speaker 1: you weren't far off from what you originally thought. I
Speaker 1: still haven't really explained it to them. I haven't really
Speaker 1: gone through each week and told them all of those things.
Speaker 1: And we're so spoken like the relationship in my experience,
Speaker 1: but again, it's always an element of surprise for them.
Speaker 1: But I just couldn't face my dad and be like
Speaker 1: you were right everywhere you were wrong. Your game of
Speaker 1: thrown visions partly came to life again being for a generation.
Speaker 1: My parents feel very confused about what I've done. They
Speaker 1: don't understand reality television entirely. They keep thinking I think
Speaker 1: they think that I'm the lead. I don't think they
Speaker 1: think it's like a multiple women. They think it's just
Speaker 1: me and Zach. So my parents just really didn't get it.
Speaker 1: So having to explain like the newdest thing as well,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll just save that for when they
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, yeah, Well they're gonna get a kick
Speaker 1: after watching it this week, I will say, um, but
Speaker 1: you know what, you kind of blind this entire season.
Speaker 1: Let them go on blind and just let me know
Speaker 1: what your father says after watching it back this week. Well,
Speaker 1: you can call you, hey, Dad, call me up. I
Speaker 1: want to hear your reaction. That would actually be kind
Speaker 1: of fun to have some parents on the podcast at
Speaker 1: some point, like after something like this goes down, just
Speaker 1: you guys have to do that. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: most authentic reaction. I would love to have your father
Speaker 1: on what's his name by the way, Felix Helix, Felix,
Speaker 1: Felix in a unique way, so there's no X, it's
Speaker 1: ks okay, Well, Felix, Papa Felix. Anytime you want to
Speaker 1: join happy Hour, you just call me up, sir. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's get into the evening then, what was the
Speaker 1: evening like for you where you finally knew that you
Speaker 1: would open up to be able to open up to
Speaker 1: Zack a bit more and not have anyone interrupt you
Speaker 1: with whatever you had to say. I think that's what
Speaker 1: made me really like take down my walls for the
Speaker 1: first time again. I've had like such a sordid relationship history,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I started to really hide my
Speaker 1: true inside personality. Like people can see my humor, people
Speaker 1: can see I'm a bit mysterious at times. That's not
Speaker 1: the entire scope of who I am. So I feel
Speaker 1: like this was the first time I really got to
Speaker 1: show Zach how vulnerable I can be. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that word is over us now, but it's a
Speaker 1: great word. I really got to show him like why
Speaker 1: I'm there, what really brought me there, what my past
Speaker 1: really kind of created for me to even feel like
Speaker 1: open to the idea of doing a show like this,
Speaker 1: and how far I was like pushed in my past
Speaker 1: relationships to not have really found my person and how
Speaker 1: hard that was, and how I've always been kind of
Speaker 1: for a long time with the wrong people that didn't
Speaker 1: bring the best things out of me. So it was
Speaker 1: nice to be able to have that conversation. It was
Speaker 1: nice to feel so comfortable being so candid and talking
Speaker 1: to someone with like no jokes, no humor, no like
Speaker 1: layer protection in a way, And that was the first
Speaker 1: time in a long time and had a conversation like that.
Speaker 1: And I actually feel like I deliberately act mysterious or
Speaker 1: act like elusive and things like that, so people don't
Speaker 1: really know what I'm thinking or what I'm feeling, and
Speaker 1: I don't have to get to that point. I love
Speaker 1: to have deep conversations. I'll answer any question that people
Speaker 1: ask me, but it takes me a long time to
Speaker 1: actually feel comfortable talking about the things that I've experienced
Speaker 1: in my past in terms of details. Right, how do
Speaker 1: you feel he received what you told him about your past.
Speaker 1: I think he received it very well. I feel like
Speaker 1: he always made me feel so comfortable and so honestly.
Speaker 1: I know it's so weird to say, but you do
Speaker 1: forget the cameras are around, and you do forget that
Speaker 1: you're kind of in this environment, because it always felt
Speaker 1: like it was Zac and I kind of off camera.
Speaker 1: So I always felt so good around him. I always
Speaker 1: felt like I could be super weird and be super funny,
Speaker 1: like tell the most like inappropriate sarcastic joke, like I
Speaker 1: was speaking about the one of the nudest body parts
Speaker 1: and he was loving that. Do tell more. I called
Speaker 1: the guys egg plant if you will egg plant emoji mudest.
Speaker 1: I called it a micro penny because that's what I
Speaker 1: call any guy that has a very small part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like this poor nudist, sir, hope you to listen
Speaker 1: to Happy Hour. I've said that privately, and then Zach
Speaker 1: goes and says micro paney on camera. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I turned into like an Italian phrase. It's like a
Speaker 1: make it sown fancy. Yeah, you make it sound like
Speaker 1: fancy kind. It's like a compliment when you say it
Speaker 1: like that exactly. Um okay, I'm the micro penny. Stop using.
Speaker 1: Oh I wanted to get into like when Zach offering
Speaker 1: you the rust, But now I just am gonna be
Speaker 1: thinking about also next time it eat Penny Aposta, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm going to be thinking of. I might be
Speaker 1: impossive pre you forever. Don't worry. Nothing can impostive for me.
Speaker 1: But now you just made it more enjoyable. It'll just
Speaker 1: be more fun. The next time I ordered Penny with
Speaker 1: Thomas had a restaurant. So how did it feel after
Speaker 1: finally opening up to Zack and like you said, being
Speaker 1: more vulnerable when he offered you that rose for you
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, But did you feel
Speaker 1: like up until that point, like that was truly the
Speaker 1: most important rose that you did receive. It so hard
Speaker 1: for me to think of everything. The concept of rose
Speaker 1: is right because like, this is a relationship, this is
Speaker 1: my future like husband, this is like my partner. So
Speaker 1: that rose had the most like weight and value at
Speaker 1: that time because it's just our one on one and
Speaker 1: it mattered so much to me to just like be
Speaker 1: able to share those things with him. But my focus
Speaker 1: was on like sharing that, having him get to know me,
Speaker 1: having him understand me, and like seeing if he if
Speaker 1: he understands that and accepts that that we're progressing. So
Speaker 1: it really meant so much to me to get that rose.
Speaker 1: But the thing that I thought about the most was
Speaker 1: being able to feel comfortable with Zach in a way
Speaker 1: that I hadn't felt comfortable with that in my past. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited he gave you that rose. You've been
Speaker 1: and I apologize, I said at the beginning, I'm like
Speaker 1: Ariel is kind of a sleeper, like because we didn't
Speaker 1: see a ton of you at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1: You weren't in the midst of the drama, which I
Speaker 1: can appreciate it, and I think it does everyone good
Speaker 1: when you're not in the midst of that. But you
Speaker 1: have grown on me week by week. I've absolutely loved
Speaker 1: watching you, and I loved watching you on your one
Speaker 1: on one because we finally got to know more of
Speaker 1: who Ariel is without all of the chaos of the
Speaker 1: other women around. So I really can't wait to see
Speaker 1: where your connection with Zach goes in the coming weeks. So,
Speaker 1: without giving too much away, can you tease just a
Speaker 1: little bit of what's to come in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be so much humor. There's
Speaker 1: going to be so many laughs. There's going to be
Speaker 1: so many like funny and amazing experiences. And like Zach
Speaker 1: and I just had such a great way of like
Speaker 1: laughing at each other, poking fun like even the Jersey comments.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was very important for me to
Speaker 1: be with someone that just knows how to like laugh
Speaker 1: through life with me. That's what I learned from my parents.
Speaker 1: So it's going to be a season full of full
Speaker 1: of humor, full of laps, full of Honestly, the women
Speaker 1: were also so funny, so I feel like all of
Speaker 1: them had such like unique personalities and we're just like
Speaker 1: we're all kind of like stand up comics in our
Speaker 1: own ways and had our own humor, So there will
Speaker 1: be a lot of that. I love that. I do
Speaker 1: love this season for the friendships we're seen. It does
Speaker 1: seem like, for the most part, all of you get
Speaker 1: along so well. You're so supportive of each other, which
Speaker 1: we have not seen in really any season in this capacity,
Speaker 1: which is so incredible. Who were you really really close
Speaker 1: within the house, Like, who were some of your best girlfriends?
Speaker 1: I was super close with Katie, with Gabby, with Charity,
Speaker 1: with Jess as well, so those are like my really
Speaker 1: point people. But I got so close to, like, honestly everyone,
Speaker 1: so like kat Kylie, Mercedes, I'm literally listening everyone out.
Speaker 1: But I got so close to an Ali as well.
Speaker 1: I got so close to so many women in different ways,
Speaker 1: so I feel like a lot of women stepped in
Speaker 1: when I was feeling a certain way, Like all the
Speaker 1: different personality types really helped me get through moments that
Speaker 1: I couldn't have gotten through on my own. So it
Speaker 1: was very nice, like I knew, like I need to
Speaker 1: go to Charity for something, I need to go to
Speaker 1: Katie for something, to Gabby. So I feel like all
Speaker 1: their different personality types helped me like really get through
Speaker 1: the difficulty of everything and again just like have a
Speaker 1: laugh too. So I feel like it was it was
Speaker 1: a truly amazing season. I saw so many like beautiful
Speaker 1: and amazing sides of all the women. Okay, there's a
Speaker 1: group chat, right every season, I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: group chat with all of the women or all of
Speaker 1: the men. Please tell me there is one, and every Monday,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it pops off. I have no idea what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Oh no, that like those were some
Speaker 1: of the best times. Was was just talking with all
Speaker 1: the girls every Monday, being like did you know so
Speaker 1: and so did that? Or oh my god, I can't
Speaker 1: if you said that in an im. But like you
Speaker 1: bond with the women in another way, no one understands
Speaker 1: it once you leave the show. It is called a
Speaker 1: trauma bond for lack of a better term. But like
Speaker 1: the things that you experienced together, no one else will
Speaker 1: ever understand. So I feel like that whether there's a
Speaker 1: group chat or not, we will definitely like oh have
Speaker 1: We'll always like be in each other's lives now, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's um and and that's god. I sound so cliche
Speaker 1: and I always say this, but like, you know, you
Speaker 1: go on the show to hopefully find love and to
Speaker 1: find a partner, but like it's the friendships, those lasting
Speaker 1: friendships that like you'll remember, Like I'm still super close
Speaker 1: with a couple of the girls from our season, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I would do it all over again
Speaker 1: to still have these people in my lives. Whether you know,
Speaker 1: we went through a lot of shit when when we
Speaker 1: were filming and it was a crazy couple months of
Speaker 1: your life. But the friendships are incredible. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you are close with some of the girls. Still, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get to the let's get to the next part.
Speaker 1: This is just a very fun, easy rapid fire game.
Speaker 1: So basically, I'm gonna just fire questions off at you,
Speaker 1: just get to know you a bit more and then
Speaker 1: just give me like the first thing that comes to
Speaker 1: your mind. Okay, right, So no, it's so easy. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: Are you in early rise or a night owl? A
Speaker 1: night owl. I'm up until like five owl on TikTok Okay,
Speaker 1: what is the best stating advice you've ever received to
Speaker 1: find a common shared interest with your partner that only
Speaker 1: you two share. Oh, that's good. We haven't heard that
Speaker 1: one on here yet. That's good. What is your go
Speaker 1: to pizza order? Honestly, I randomly really like mushrooms on
Speaker 1: my pizza now and more of like a white pizza. Okay,
Speaker 1: Bianca pizza, Bianca situation with some onion. Anything that gives
Speaker 1: you like the worst breath imaginable, like there and I'll
Speaker 1: eat it. What is one word that your best friends
Speaker 1: would use to describe you thoughtful? Thoughtful? Well, that's good one, okay.
Speaker 1: Switching to what is your favorite curse word? Probably fun? No, Oh,
Speaker 1: we gotta new money here. I also love the fact. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to bleep that out, but please keep it.
Speaker 1: And most people are like, wait, can I swear on here?
Speaker 1: Can I say it? I'm like I said too in
Speaker 1: one second. I love it. I love it and it's
Speaker 1: unique one that we've never heard. So you heard it
Speaker 1: from Ariel first ums loved and they just changed it
Speaker 1: to London. It's so good. Um, what is the most
Speaker 1: played song or artist in your playlist? Um? Probably still Aba.
Speaker 1: I know that that was like really a thing for me,
Speaker 1: but maybe I'm still free. Oh my god, I love yeah,
Speaker 1: I was always there. Okay. What's your favorite cocktail? Anything spicy?
Speaker 1: So I love like a spicy mescal, a spicy tequila,
Speaker 1: anything that the rim has tejene as well, and like
Speaker 1: as many hallopenias as you can. So spicy, like cucumbery
Speaker 1: type of a situation. Okay, I love that too. If
Speaker 1: you could be any animal, what would it be? I
Speaker 1: think a dolphin. I don't know if it's because like
Speaker 1: the first tell me of what you would be, but
Speaker 1: dolphins have actually really high EQ and they're very like empathetic.
Speaker 1: They're so smart. They're very smart, and they're very like
Speaker 1: they actually have self awareness, which I think is very
Speaker 1: interesting for like a sea animal. Okay, what is the
Speaker 1: current screensaver on your phone? Honestly, I don't. I always
Speaker 1: use the classic ones. I never have anything that is different,
Speaker 1: but I just have like the desert situation, the lovely
Speaker 1: little desert look at that. It could be Utah, could
Speaker 1: be the Grand can mean. We don't know. I'm going
Speaker 1: to change it now. Okay, Well, let me know we
Speaker 1: can always change this answer. Just just DMS the screenschat
Speaker 1: of what you change it too. Um? Okay. If you
Speaker 1: could visit one place in the world, where would you go? Um?
Speaker 1: I'm really dying to go to Africa. Honestly. I love
Speaker 1: like terrains like that, I love animals. I really that's
Speaker 1: one part of the world I really have not explored
Speaker 1: at all. So that's like one specific country, probably m Kenya. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm dying to go to Tanzania as well. I'm dying
Speaker 1: to see Rwanda. Okay, well one day added to the
Speaker 1: bucket list manifest that Okay. Last question for this part.
Speaker 1: If you had to describe this season of The Bachelor
Speaker 1: in just one word or one phrase, what would that be. Um? Authentic.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone was very much themselves, whether that
Speaker 1: be good or badge, whatever that means. I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone really tried to put that foot forward. And I
Speaker 1: feel like Zach cured a season of like pure honesty
Speaker 1: and was very much himself, and I feel like he
Speaker 1: really brought us to that place. So I feel like
Speaker 1: he's always made everything authentic. Anytime there's issues or drama
Speaker 1: you would send people home. So I feel like the
Speaker 1: season was very authentic. Okay, I'll take it. I love that.
Speaker 1: Now we have a couple last things before we let
Speaker 1: you go. First is our resource section, which basically it's
Speaker 1: we'd love to just keep our listeners informed and give
Speaker 1: them quick, easy access to different resources, especially in regards
Speaker 1: to racism. So my resource is it's called bronicity dot
Speaker 1: com and it's I had talked about doctor Lucretia Barry
Speaker 1: on the podcast a couple weeks ago in the three
Speaker 1: and thirty podcast Resource. But barnicity dot com is basically
Speaker 1: a website that offers anti racism education with different courses
Speaker 1: and events. It actually offers both paid and free courses,
Speaker 1: so really anyone can go and sign up to get
Speaker 1: some of those resources. Courses. They have some geared for kids.
Speaker 1: They also have some for adults and caregivers, and then
Speaker 1: also some for educators or leaders who want to do
Speaker 1: more like speaking in leadership roles on like culture, race, ethnicity,
Speaker 1: all of that. So it is called brennicity dot com. Again,
Speaker 1: you can sign up for their free courses. They will
Speaker 1: send you a book in the mail and then you
Speaker 1: can just access all of the courses online. So that
Speaker 1: is my resource of the week, and Ariel, if you
Speaker 1: have one, we would love to hear yours as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people might not know this, but I'm
Speaker 1: actually Jewish, and I feel like in recent events I've
Speaker 1: been happening, there's been a huge surge in anti Semitism.
Speaker 1: It's been an ongoing issue globally, but particularly in the US.
Speaker 1: Jews account for two percent of the population, but there's
Speaker 1: sixty percent of all hate crimes. So I feel like
Speaker 1: it's important to kind of get the conversation open. And
Speaker 1: one of my favorite books is The Choice by doctor
Speaker 1: Judith Eva Eager. She talked about her experiences and aush Fitz,
Speaker 1: what she overcame and how she kind of turned that
Speaker 1: into helping others. So she helps people with PTSD and
Speaker 1: became a psychologist eventually, and she talks about her choice
Speaker 1: and kind of humility, humanity. She talks about the importance
Speaker 1: of getting yourself out of a situation and turning that
Speaker 1: around through yourself and healing. So I feel like that's
Speaker 1: a very important resource for me personally. Wonderful The Choice Choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well, thank you for sharing that one, and
Speaker 1: again to all of our listeners. We usually will include
Speaker 1: these on our Highlights reel of Instagram for about or
Speaker 1: have yet where so you can always go there, click
Speaker 1: on them, read through them, listen through them, whatever you need.
Speaker 1: It's just a great way to get started, So thank
Speaker 1: you Ariel. We will add that to our highlight real
Speaker 1: as well. And then one last thing before we let
Speaker 1: you go, which is just a fun way to wrap
Speaker 1: up every interview, is we would love for you to
Speaker 1: share your rose and your thorn, which is basically your rose,
Speaker 1: which is the highlight, like your favorite moment, whether it
Speaker 1: was during filming or now watching it back just of
Speaker 1: the season, and then a thorn, which would be the opposite.
Speaker 1: So whether it's a negative moment, a terrible memory, something
Speaker 1: awkward or cringeworthy that you wish you didn't said, whatever,
Speaker 1: it might be your rose and your thorn. My rose
Speaker 1: would be the one on one. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: where I really started to open up to Zach. That's
Speaker 1: where I really started to heal. I feel like he
Speaker 1: helped me heal from a lot of my past relationships
Speaker 1: and when I'd experienced and be open in that way.
Speaker 1: So that one on one kind of like pushed us
Speaker 1: into the next stratosphere and really got us close. So
Speaker 1: that was really important for me. So I guess the
Speaker 1: moment would be that the one on one, but like
Speaker 1: the process would be kind of healing and thorn. I
Speaker 1: feel like it was really hard to every time that
Speaker 1: the women would leave, so especially as like the season continued,
Speaker 1: you just developed such close relationships. Everyone use such like
Speaker 1: nuanced relationships, and everyone like becomes such a part of
Speaker 1: the group. So I feel like the second that you
Speaker 1: know you're getting a rose and you're going up there,
Speaker 1: you know that someone isn't, so that was hard for me.
Speaker 1: Like the second you would have to say like a
Speaker 1: huge goodbye to someone that you're so close to would
Speaker 1: be also the next step that you're in the next
Speaker 1: phase of your relationship. So that was really difficult. And
Speaker 1: this is where I see the thoughtful side of you
Speaker 1: come out. I think, like, like you said, if your
Speaker 1: best friends were to describe you, very thoughtful and always
Speaker 1: like looking at both sides and you know the positives
Speaker 1: and the not so positives of a scenario. But Ariel,
Speaker 1: it has been so much fun watching you. It has
Speaker 1: been even better finally having you on You're somebody that
Speaker 1: Michelle I know probably bombs you couldn't chat with you
Speaker 1: this week, but thank you for hopping on Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: And we like to tell everyone too like we're always here.
Speaker 1: So if you ever need advice or somebody to talk to,
Speaker 1: or to ask questions or support, just let both of
Speaker 1: us know, and we are always here to support you girls.
Speaker 1: So thanks for hopping on, and we can't wait to
Speaker 1: see where this I hate saying this, where this journey
Speaker 1: goes with Zach and you all Right, Well, that was
Speaker 1: so much fun having Ariel on. I'm such a fan
Speaker 1: of her and she just keeps growing on me. I
Speaker 1: sat at the beginning, I didn't know how far she
Speaker 1: was going to go. It maybe called her a sleeper,
Speaker 1: but she's I think she's gonna make it far and
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of her. So thank you Ariel for
Speaker 1: joining us, and a huge thank you to all of
Speaker 1: our Happy Hour listeners. We of course couldn't be here
Speaker 1: each and every week without you. Thanks for bearing with
Speaker 1: just me this week and again hopefully Michelle will be
Speaker 1: back ready to go next week and feeling better. And
Speaker 1: everyone don't forget that new episodes of The Bacher air
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