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Speaker 1: What's a Boucher Happy Hour listeners. I'm Becky Kuffern and

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Speaker 1: I'm writing solo this week because last week I was

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Speaker 1: under the weather. This week, Michelle is unfortunately under the weather,

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Speaker 1: so I'm hoping next week we will both be back

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Speaker 1: this week. I missed y'all last week, and we have

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Speaker 1: a very excited episode for you because we have our

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Speaker 1: guest Arial on this week to get into everything with

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Speaker 1: her magical one on one date in Estonia, to get

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Speaker 1: the scoop on her connection with Zak. And she's been

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Speaker 1: someone who I actually really have enjoyed watching, so I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to pick her brain about everything. She is

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Speaker 1: not only levelheaded and mature, but I feel like she

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Speaker 1: also has this really sarcastic, witty side to her, so

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to speak with her. I hope you all

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Speaker 1: can't wait to hear from her too. But before we

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Speaker 1: bring Ariel on, let's just do a little catchup. It's

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Speaker 1: been a hot second since I was here with you all.

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Speaker 1: Life has been good. I am excited to announce that

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Speaker 1: our house is almost almost to the finish line. We

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Speaker 1: have been working on it tiresly, and when I say we,

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Speaker 1: I mean Thomas and I have been just complaining about

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Speaker 1: it since July. But we are near the finish line.

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Speaker 1: We probably have like a week or two to go

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Speaker 1: and then it's just finally unpacking and getting settled. So

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Speaker 1: we're excited. And speaking of Finnish lines, another fun thing

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Speaker 1: to share with you all is that Thomas just ran

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Speaker 1: his first official half marathon in Vegas this past weekend.

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Speaker 1: We're still here kind of just recuperating and recovering and

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Speaker 1: letting him rest, but if anyone follows him on social media,

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Speaker 1: just give him a shout out to tell him congrats.

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Speaker 1: He actually crushed that half marathon. I was so proud

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Speaker 1: of him. I actually started tearing up watching him cross

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Speaker 1: that finish line. But it was very fun to see.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many of our listeners out there

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Speaker 1: are runners themselves. I am personally not so to see

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Speaker 1: anyone complete a five k or a ten k, or

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Speaker 1: the half marathon or I mean, damn, the full marathon.

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Speaker 1: It's just so incredible and inspiring to me. So to

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Speaker 1: all of those Las Vegas runners who just did the

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Speaker 1: half marathon this past weekend, congrats to you. While y'all

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Speaker 1: crushed it. It was such a fun atmosphere, and that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit about our life right now. Nothing too

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Speaker 1: wild and crazy. But let's get into our little show

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Speaker 1: recap because that's obviously what we're here for. And this

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Speaker 1: week was fun. We saw the cast and crew had

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Speaker 1: to Estonia. It looked beautiful, and I feel like it

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Speaker 1: was a great fresh start for them because they finally

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Speaker 1: got their bachelor back. Of course, he was sick last week,

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Speaker 1: which I can't even imagine being on a season where

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Speaker 1: a bachelor had COVID and was out for a week,

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Speaker 1: because you already go through very very long periods of

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Speaker 1: time without seeing the lead during certain weeks, and so

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Speaker 1: to go for some of these women, they barely saw

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Speaker 1: him for two weeks. I can't even imagine how good

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Speaker 1: that was being in a fresh city, a fresh country,

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Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll with their bachelor. So let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. It started off on a high note.

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Speaker 1: I was so glad to see our girl Charity finally

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Speaker 1: get that one on one date in person. I feel

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Speaker 1: hoping she would get that date. I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: if he starts this week without giving Charity a date

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Speaker 1: when she missed it last week. I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: so bummed. But she got that date card and before

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Speaker 1: the most drama that took place of that episode took

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Speaker 1: when miss Kat stole Zach before heading out with Charity.

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Speaker 1: And I actually am really interested to get everyone let's

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Speaker 1: take on this, So for all of our listeners, please

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Speaker 1: DM Boucher Happy Hour, DM Me'm I like actually want

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Speaker 1: to do a poll on Instagram to see people's thoughts

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Speaker 1: on this on if they thought this was a terrible move,

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Speaker 1: if they thought it was an okay move. I'm kind

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Speaker 1: Of course it's going to bother people. But I think,

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Speaker 1: given to like this heightened situation where Charity had already

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Speaker 1: I think the timing on Cat's part was very much off,

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Speaker 1: but We've seen scenarios and I've lived through this too

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Speaker 1: during my time on The Bachelor, where you know timing,

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Speaker 1: feel like it's always gonna piss people off. I understand that,

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Speaker 1: And again, like I would love to hear everyone's thoughts

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Speaker 1: You do have to make the most of it. And

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like when Kat did

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Speaker 1: lovely romantic date with Charity, And so that's how I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at it. It's like if Zach didn't mind it

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Speaker 1: all that it really comes down to you. I think

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Speaker 1: I was also thinking like the week before when Zach

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Speaker 1: and she probably had way more time with him during

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Speaker 1: that moment, but because the women didn't know about it,

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Speaker 1: So all this to say, we are happy that Charity

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Speaker 1: one point Zach was like, well, it's not just about

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Speaker 1: Ariel on Happy Hour. Okay, well, welcome to Happy Hour. Ariel.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you here. I have to ask,

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Speaker 1: you obviously missed it because we were recording this part.

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Speaker 1: But when Ariel just came on, we were talking. We

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Speaker 1: to because I'm always like, I'm too old for any

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Speaker 1: sort of technology. Um, but turns out you're you are millennial. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Z at heart. Okay, gen Z at heart. So you

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Speaker 1: and I are definitely against that. But I was actually

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Speaker 1: So we're lucky to still be out in London. We're

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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying things. I want to make the most out

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Speaker 1: like a positive force for someone. And I feel like,

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00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: when morale is low amongst the women, I also want

432
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: to make sure everyone was like in a better headspace. Damn,

433
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: I feel like you and Charity. We had Charity on

434
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and she was like, because

435
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: obviously she's at the therapist and she would do like

436
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: all these comming exercises with the women. I feel like

437
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: you would have been good moral too, to just kind

438
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: of like keep spirits up and keep things going and

439
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: like we'll see him soon, Like let's still have fun here.

440
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: What was the virtual cocktail party like, because that's the

441
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: first time we've ever seen that, I think ever in

442
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: vacher Nation, and I'm sure it was a little weird.

443
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: Obviously we're all used to zooms and facetimes these days,

444
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: but to like do that dating wise has got to

445
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: be a little bit hard. I think again, it's a

446
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: situation of like I've always done long distance. For example,

447
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: I've always been in relationships or the other person lived

448
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: somewhere else, or when I've been traveling, we've made like

449
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: the most we could of the time we have. So

450
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: I personally felt like it's really weird to not be

451
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: in person together. It doesn't feel as nice as it

452
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: always does to be like touching someone, to be physical

453
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: with them, to even like yeah, their mind a bit

454
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: more interpersonally. But I feel like it was nice that

455
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: he had time to give us at all. Week That week,

456
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: I was like taking breadcrumbs. I was taking anything that

457
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: I could. At that point, we basically didn't have two

458
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: dates in a way, so I felt really good that

459
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: we were able to still talk. And I kind of

460
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: did a whole like James Bond thing was a deleted scene,

461
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: so I brought on like a little shaker situation. I

462
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: think I'm pretty sure it like hit the ceiling and

463
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: hit the ground, bring back this footage. Yeah, I'm not

464
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: good at making a Gin and tonic. I've decided I'm

465
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: not the Bond Bill and I thought I was. But

466
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: it was nice to do like a little bit and

467
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 1: like be playful and like I felt like, I couldn't

468
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: do that in the same wine in person because maybe

469
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: you'll see that the shaker hit the ceiling. But it

470
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: was nice to get like creative. It was nice to

471
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: try to like also bring it back to like the

472
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: location when we were at make it more like cinematic

473
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: if you will. So I as weird as it was,

474
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: I was happy we like got the time with him.

475
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: I was happy he was feeling in better spirits and

476
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't feeling like he had to be in bed anymore. Right,

477
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 1: how much time did everyone get with him? Because usually

478
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: during those cocked parties, I mean, you have anywhere from

479
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: what like five to sometimes twenty five minutes? Did you? So?

480
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: Did most women have a good chunk of time to

481
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: chat with him during that virtual one? Yeah, he made

482
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: a lot of time for everyone. I remember it being

483
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: at least like thirty minutes from when I remember it

484
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: felt like, okay, yeah, I'm pretty sure we got thirty

485
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: minutes at least. And it actually was nice because usually

486
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: during ceremonies you don't know if you'll get time. You

487
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: don't have to go, So this was like you you

488
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: definitely get time. You have this allotted moment with this person.

489
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: So it felt really nice to have that and to

490
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: know for sure you're going to get that time no

491
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: matter what, because there are some kil ceremonies where I

492
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: didn't get any time at all, and I guess the

493
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: bonus and this one was probably no one was able

494
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: to come in and steal him. He's already not there. Um.

495
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that until now. Okay, let's

496
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: get into Estonia, because this is obviously a very fun

497
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: week for you. You finally get to travel. I called

498
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: it like a reset for everyone. Like, obviously, no one

499
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: saw Zach the week before besides Gabby, so it was

500
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: a fresh start in a new country. You obviously get

501
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: to see your boyfriend again. So what were your first

502
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: thoughts when you found out you were going to Estonia?

503
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: Have you ever been there before? No, I actually haven't.

504
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: I know about the Baltics in general and that like

505
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: territory just because I'm Eastern European, but I've never been there,

506
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: and I never honestly knew the extent of the culture there.

507
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: So it was so beautiful and the food was amazing.

508
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: It looked really beautiful. I've heard great things about Estonia,

509
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: so I'm glad that they were able to take you

510
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: there for the show going into this week, Like, what

511
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: were your hopes? Because you were incorrect me if I'm wrong,

512
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: but you were one of I think three women who

513
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: had not yet received the one on one. Correct, I

514
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: think it was you, Jess and Greer. Yeah, okay, So

515
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: what were you expecting, Like, did you have a feeling

516
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 1: you'd maybe get the one on one that week? I mean,

517
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were hopeful. I'm always hopeful, but I

518
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: genuinely really didn't think I was going to get it. Honestly,

519
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: I was announced. I'm pretty sure I gave like the

520
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: least gracious reaction imaginable. I feel like girls are always

521
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: like looking down and smiling and very like they like curtsy.

522
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I definitely wasn't like the most grateful,

523
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: so I'm so excited. I was just so stunned. So

524
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: I feel like when you're you've become so patient over time,

525
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: you're always like waiting for that opportunity and moment. I

526
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: feel like I'd had so much patience by that point,

527
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: So by that point, I just it had been so

528
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: many times that I hadn't gotten the one on one,

529
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: So to finally get it. I think I was just

530
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: so shocked but so so excited. Yeah. How fun. So

531
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: before we get into like the actual details of the date,

532
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: a little drama went down right before Charity's date, and

533
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: that was like the moment when Kat had pulled Zack aside,

534
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: took him out of the room obviously like Charity was

535
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: all ready to go. What were your thoughts in that moment,

536
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: because you know, we saw some women like Brooklyn who

537
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: were really rubbed the wrong way. Where were you at?

538
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: Were you like, okay, like it's it's that that this

539
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: is a game, but like the name of the game

540
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: in a way, or were you kind of very put

541
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: off too? I think the best way to give advice

542
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: to someone and relate to them, because I felt like

543
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: at some point I kind of had to step in

544
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: is to understand where they're coming from. So I understood

545
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: where where both women were coming from. I felt like

546
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: the action itself was not respectful, and if I were

547
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: in the position of Charity, it would hurt like my feelings.

548
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: So I feel like I really wanted to for Kat

549
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: and I to be on the same understanding and I

550
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: wanted to relate to her and have her not attacked

551
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: because I felt like in the situation with Brooklyn it

552
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: was it was much more aggressive in a group setting.

553
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: I have a lot of sensitivities for like one person

554
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: being called out in a group setting. Just don't like

555
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: the way that feels. I don't like for it to

556
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: be like a five against one, So that to sensitivity

557
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: of mine. And then I just wanted to make sure

558
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: that Kat understood that we still like support her, We're

559
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: still like, like our season was just so respectful and kind,

560
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: so that outside of the scope of what we really

561
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: experienced to such an extent before, especially the smaller group.

562
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: So I wanted to make sure that Kat understood. Listen,

563
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: what you did was not an action that I line with.

564
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't agree. I wouldn't do something like this. It's okay,

565
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: I understand it. The setting makes like we're all pursuing

566
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: the same person. The setting makes people feel very heightened emotions.

567
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: We're all like, we all want the time with him,

568
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: we all want the time with Zach, but this is

569
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: just not the way you go about doing that. And

570
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: this is just not the kindest thing to do to

571
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: someone before they have their day. Everyone else gets their day,

572
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: so you have to be patient and you have to

573
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: make sure that you're not like encroaching on someone else's time,

574
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't want that to happen to you, right.

575
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: I just really didn't like that because I wouldn't do

576
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: that to someone else, and I wouldn't. I don't think

577
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: it's even in line with the personality that Kat has

578
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: and the person that she is, So I felt like

579
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: she was acting outside the scope of her like empathy. Yeah,

580
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: I definitely agree that this being in this situation, this

581
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: scenario where you're so removed from any sort of normalcy

582
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: that you experience on a daily life, like, it really

583
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 1: does heighten everything, Like it makes you do things and

584
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: say things that you wouldn't necessarily do in a normal scenario.

585
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: And it's interesting too, because I was trying to explain

586
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: to the listeners before we had you on, like there's

587
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: a time and a place for things, and you know,

588
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: people are always stealing the lead, whether that's before a date,

589
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: whether that's like in the middle of a row ceremony.

590
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: We've seen that happen as well. And it's tough because

591
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: I felt like, and this is just for me, I

592
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: felt like it was a little bit blown out of proportion.

593
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: In the way that Brooklyn reacted, But I also get it, like,

594
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: especially for a charity. She already missed one on one

595
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: date last week when Zach was sick. She already had

596
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: to deal with like the whole thing at the beginning

597
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: of the season when Christina kind of put her down

598
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: when she got the group date rose And now this,

599
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: I was like, this, poor girl cannot catch a break.

600
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: This is not the time for Charity. But again, like,

601
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: is there ever really a time? And you were the

602
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: one to talk with Kat, like during the aftermath of

603
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: the whole Brooklyn to Bible correct, I thought everyone individually,

604
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: So I really wanted to understand where everyone was coming from.

605
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: And I feel like I kind of stepped in in

606
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: this way as an accidental mediator, which is not the

607
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: most fun position, But I feel like I get where

608
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: everyone's coming from. So I get where Bookly's coming from

609
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: because she's protecting her friend. I get where Cats coming

610
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: from because she's protecting her relationship. And I get where

611
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Charity's coming from because she's just as you said, she

612
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: didn't get the one on one she's had. She's been

613
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: so patient and so gracious about everything. She was the

614
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: one rounding sessions with us. We were honestly, she and

615
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: I really connected and I really related to her in

616
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and I felt like she it

617
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: was this was her moment, so I didn't want that

618
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: to be overshadowed either. So and just a hard position

619
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: to be in because we all got so close to

620
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: so many ways. But it's so many different personality types

621
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: in this, like melting pot in a way that are

622
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: always written, so it's hard for everyone to act like

623
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: their best self or always be like completely respectful to

624
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: everyone else all the time. So I understand wanting to

625
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: pull someone when you feel disconnected from them, but we

626
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: were all feeling that same way in the group setting

627
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: as well, like none of us had taken to him either.

628
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: The last chance we had had was the cocktail ceremony.

629
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: So I feel like, instead of what I'm talking a cat,

630
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: instead of making her feel like she's being attacked, I

631
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: just want her to feel like, I understand why you

632
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: did it, but this is why it's not the best

633
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: course of action, Why it's like, why this hurts other

634
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: people's feelings sometimes to see outside of yourself, right right, Yeah,

635
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're probably the best person that she

636
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: could have chatted with in that scenario. Again, like very

637
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: level headed, grounded, as you said, the mediator, whether you

638
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: wanted to be or not, that was you. But things

639
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: take a turn for the up because you get the daycard.

640
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: What did your daycard read? Again? I actually I think

641
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: it said, let's turn up the heat. Let's turn up

642
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: the heat. So did you have any idea what this

643
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: might entail? I did not, and I did not think

644
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: it was going to be about panned out. I kind

645
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: of had an idea because again in Eastern Europe there's

646
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: a culture of like saunas and baths and things like that,

647
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: and it's a very like holistic culture as well, so

648
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe it would be something of that nature.

649
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: But I really never want to expect and whatever I

650
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: would guess on any of the dates, I got everything

651
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: so wrong guess where I did not. The football date

652
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: was the most obvious. I didn't guess it at all.

653
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: I was the worse at guessing who was going to

654
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: get something or anything that happened. So I really had

655
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: no idea, so I wasn't kind of blind, But it

656
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: ended up being like the funniest best date ever, because

657
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: as before, it's nice to not have like this stimulated,

658
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: extremely romantic environment. I like to laugh with my partner.

659
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: I liked to be able to be very comfortable and

660
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: let loose, and I feel like, as unusual as that

661
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: setting was, it's what made us get closer. It really

662
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: forced you to, yeah, get closer, and I'd be like,

663
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: push you outside of the comfort zone a little bit.

664
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: What was that like when you found out that you

665
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: were not only going to be doing a sauna, but

666
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: it was the nude sauna. The funniest thing is that

667
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: before I was very nervous to go into the show.

668
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: I really debate if I was going to do it

669
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: or not. My parents had like a family meeting. They

670
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: sat me down on whether I was going to do

671
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 1: it or not, and my dad gave a speech and

672
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: he was like, you cannot do the show. There will

673
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: be naked people. They will force you the best naked people.

674
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: It was not the I saw the show. It is

675
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: not appropriate. I swear he watched Game of Thrones. I'm

676
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: straight up on it was. I thought you were going

677
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: to the Game of Throne, said the Bachelor. Really, I

678
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: don't know what show he watched, Like this is on ABC,

679
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about. But he was like,

680
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: they will take you into rooms and there will be

681
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: naked people everywhere. I'm doing like a grou accent, so

682
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm done with that now, but he so he gets it,

683
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking about that. The weirdest thing is that

684
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: I thought about my father when the nudists were announced,

685
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: because he warned me. He told me that there would

686
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: be naked people on the show, and I was like,

687
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: you're crazy, what are you talking about. I'm gonna do

688
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: the show regardless. So the fact that my dad was

689
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: in my head when I saw two naked people is

690
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: very weird for me, and I still think about a

691
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: day my dad really got in my head because I

692
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: remember just laughing at him for an hour, being what

693
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: are you talking about? They're never I'm not I'm only

694
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: going to be in a bathing suit at most, Like

695
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And then when the nudist

696
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: came in like a bell. When mom and dad came in,

697
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: that was the best thing to come in, and they

698
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: weren't following you, like it wasn't just at the beginning,

699
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: but like later on when you were sitting having this

700
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: nice private moment in this tiny ass sauna, they just

701
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: come in. They seemed very sweet, though, I will say

702
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: like it was like mom and dad were there. Obviously

703
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: weird with the nude, but like they seemed so kind

704
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: and like they were in love and you guys are

705
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: fallen in love. So um yeah, okay, So if your

706
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: dad was going through your mind when you heard about

707
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the nudists, when you actually came back from filming, and like,

708
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: we're explaining everything to your family, like when when the

709
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Sonia week came up, did you explain, like, hey, dad,

710
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: you weren't far off from what you originally thought. I

711
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: still haven't really explained it to them. I haven't really

712
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: gone through each week and told them all of those things.

713
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: And we're so spoken like the relationship in my experience,

714
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: but again, it's always an element of surprise for them.

715
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: But I just couldn't face my dad and be like

716
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: you were right everywhere you were wrong. Your game of

717
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: thrown visions partly came to life again being for a generation.

718
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: My parents feel very confused about what I've done. They

719
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: don't understand reality television entirely. They keep thinking I think

720
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: they think that I'm the lead. I don't think they

721
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: think it's like a multiple women. They think it's just

722
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: me and Zach. So my parents just really didn't get it.

723
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: So having to explain like the newdest thing as well,

724
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll just save that for when they

725
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, yeah, Well they're gonna get a kick

726
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: after watching it this week, I will say, um, but

727
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: you know what, you kind of blind this entire season.

728
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: Let them go on blind and just let me know

729
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: what your father says after watching it back this week. Well,

730
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: you can call you, hey, Dad, call me up. I

731
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: want to hear your reaction. That would actually be kind

732
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: of fun to have some parents on the podcast at

733
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: some point, like after something like this goes down, just

734
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: you guys have to do that. Oh my god, I

735
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: most authentic reaction. I would love to have your father

736
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: on what's his name by the way, Felix Helix, Felix,

737
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: Felix in a unique way, so there's no X, it's

738
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: ks okay, Well, Felix, Papa Felix. Anytime you want to

739
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: join happy Hour, you just call me up, sir. Okay,

740
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: So let's get into the evening then, what was the

741
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: evening like for you where you finally knew that you

742
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: would open up to be able to open up to

743
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Zack a bit more and not have anyone interrupt you

744
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: with whatever you had to say. I think that's what

745
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: made me really like take down my walls for the

746
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: first time again. I've had like such a sordid relationship history,

747
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: and I feel like I started to really hide my

748
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: true inside personality. Like people can see my humor, people

749
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: can see I'm a bit mysterious at times. That's not

750
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: the entire scope of who I am. So I feel

751
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: like this was the first time I really got to

752
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: show Zach how vulnerable I can be. And I feel

753
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: like that word is over us now, but it's a

754
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: great word. I really got to show him like why

755
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm there, what really brought me there, what my past

756
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: really kind of created for me to even feel like

757
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: open to the idea of doing a show like this,

758
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: and how far I was like pushed in my past

759
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: relationships to not have really found my person and how

760
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: hard that was, and how I've always been kind of

761
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: for a long time with the wrong people that didn't

762
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: bring the best things out of me. So it was

763
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: nice to be able to have that conversation. It was

764
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: nice to feel so comfortable being so candid and talking

765
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: to someone with like no jokes, no humor, no like

766
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: layer protection in a way, And that was the first

767
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: time in a long time and had a conversation like that.

768
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: And I actually feel like I deliberately act mysterious or

769
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: act like elusive and things like that, so people don't

770
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: really know what I'm thinking or what I'm feeling, and

771
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: I don't have to get to that point. I love

772
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: to have deep conversations. I'll answer any question that people

773
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: ask me, but it takes me a long time to

774
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: actually feel comfortable talking about the things that I've experienced

775
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: in my past in terms of details. Right, how do

776
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 1: you feel he received what you told him about your past.

777
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: I think he received it very well. I feel like

778
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: he always made me feel so comfortable and so honestly.

779
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: I know it's so weird to say, but you do

780
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: forget the cameras are around, and you do forget that

781
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: you're kind of in this environment, because it always felt

782
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: like it was Zac and I kind of off camera.

783
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: So I always felt so good around him. I always

784
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: felt like I could be super weird and be super funny,

785
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: like tell the most like inappropriate sarcastic joke, like I

786
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: was speaking about the one of the nudest body parts

787
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: and he was loving that. Do tell more. I called

788
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: the guys egg plant if you will egg plant emoji mudest.

789
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I called it a micro penny because that's what I

790
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: call any guy that has a very small part. Yeah,

791
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: it's like this poor nudist, sir, hope you to listen

792
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: to Happy Hour. I've said that privately, and then Zach

793
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: goes and says micro paney on camera. But um, yeah,

794
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: I turned into like an Italian phrase. It's like a

795
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: make it sown fancy. Yeah, you make it sound like

796
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: fancy kind. It's like a compliment when you say it

797
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: like that exactly. Um okay, I'm the micro penny. Stop using.

798
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh I wanted to get into like when Zach offering

799
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: you the rust, But now I just am gonna be

800
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: thinking about also next time it eat Penny Aposta, That's

801
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: what I'm going to be thinking of. I might be

802
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: impossive pre you forever. Don't worry. Nothing can impostive for me.

803
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: But now you just made it more enjoyable. It'll just

804
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: be more fun. The next time I ordered Penny with

805
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Thomas had a restaurant. So how did it feel after

806
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: finally opening up to Zack and like you said, being

807
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: more vulnerable when he offered you that rose for you

808
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, But did you feel

809
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: like up until that point, like that was truly the

810
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: most important rose that you did receive. It so hard

811
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: for me to think of everything. The concept of rose

812
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: is right because like, this is a relationship, this is

813
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: my future like husband, this is like my partner. So

814
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: that rose had the most like weight and value at

815
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: that time because it's just our one on one and

816
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: it mattered so much to me to just like be

817
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: able to share those things with him. But my focus

818
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: was on like sharing that, having him get to know me,

819
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: having him understand me, and like seeing if he if

820
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: he understands that and accepts that that we're progressing. So

821
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: it really meant so much to me to get that rose.

822
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: But the thing that I thought about the most was

823
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: being able to feel comfortable with Zach in a way

824
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: that I hadn't felt comfortable with that in my past. Well,

825
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm so excited he gave you that rose. You've been

826
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: and I apologize, I said at the beginning, I'm like

827
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: Ariel is kind of a sleeper, like because we didn't

828
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: see a ton of you at the beginning of the season.

829
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: You weren't in the midst of the drama, which I

830
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: can appreciate it, and I think it does everyone good

831
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: when you're not in the midst of that. But you

832
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: have grown on me week by week. I've absolutely loved

833
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: watching you, and I loved watching you on your one

834
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: on one because we finally got to know more of

835
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: who Ariel is without all of the chaos of the

836
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: other women around. So I really can't wait to see

837
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: where your connection with Zach goes in the coming weeks. So,

838
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: without giving too much away, can you tease just a

839
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: little bit of what's to come in the coming weeks.

840
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be so much humor. There's

841
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: going to be so many laughs. There's going to be

842
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: so many like funny and amazing experiences. And like Zach

843
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: and I just had such a great way of like

844
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: laughing at each other, poking fun like even the Jersey comments.

845
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: I feel like it was very important for me to

846
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: be with someone that just knows how to like laugh

847
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: through life with me. That's what I learned from my parents.

848
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: So it's going to be a season full of full

849
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: of humor, full of laps, full of Honestly, the women

850
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: were also so funny, so I feel like all of

851
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: them had such like unique personalities and we're just like

852
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: we're all kind of like stand up comics in our

853
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: own ways and had our own humor, So there will

854
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: be a lot of that. I love that. I do

855
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: love this season for the friendships we're seen. It does

856
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: seem like, for the most part, all of you get

857
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: along so well. You're so supportive of each other, which

858
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: we have not seen in really any season in this capacity,

859
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: which is so incredible. Who were you really really close

860
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: within the house, Like, who were some of your best girlfriends?

861
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: I was super close with Katie, with Gabby, with Charity,

862
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: with Jess as well, so those are like my really

863
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: point people. But I got so close to, like, honestly everyone,

864
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: so like kat Kylie, Mercedes, I'm literally listening everyone out.

865
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: But I got so close to an Ali as well.

866
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: I got so close to so many women in different ways,

867
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: so I feel like a lot of women stepped in

868
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: when I was feeling a certain way, Like all the

869
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: different personality types really helped me get through moments that

870
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't have gotten through on my own. So it

871
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: was very nice, like I knew, like I need to

872
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: go to Charity for something, I need to go to

873
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Katie for something, to Gabby. So I feel like all

874
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: their different personality types helped me like really get through

875
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: the difficulty of everything and again just like have a

876
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: laugh too. So I feel like it was it was

877
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: a truly amazing season. I saw so many like beautiful

878
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: and amazing sides of all the women. Okay, there's a

879
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: group chat, right every season, I feel like there's a

880
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: group chat with all of the women or all of

881
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: the men. Please tell me there is one, and every Monday,

882
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure it pops off. I have no idea what

883
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Oh no, that like those were some

884
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: of the best times. Was was just talking with all

885
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: the girls every Monday, being like did you know so

886
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: and so did that? Or oh my god, I can't

887
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: if you said that in an im. But like you

888
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: bond with the women in another way, no one understands

889
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: it once you leave the show. It is called a

890
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: trauma bond for lack of a better term. But like

891
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: the things that you experienced together, no one else will

892
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: ever understand. So I feel like that whether there's a

893
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: group chat or not, we will definitely like oh have

894
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: We'll always like be in each other's lives now, right right, Yeah,

895
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: it's um and and that's god. I sound so cliche

896
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: and I always say this, but like, you know, you

897
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: go on the show to hopefully find love and to

898
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: find a partner, but like it's the friendships, those lasting

899
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: friendships that like you'll remember, Like I'm still super close

900
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: with a couple of the girls from our season, and

901
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I would do it all over again

902
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: to still have these people in my lives. Whether you know,

903
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: we went through a lot of shit when when we

904
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: were filming and it was a crazy couple months of

905
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: your life. But the friendships are incredible. So I'm I'm

906
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: glad that you are close with some of the girls. Still, Okay,

907
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: let's get to the let's get to the next part.

908
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: This is just a very fun, easy rapid fire game.

909
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: So basically, I'm gonna just fire questions off at you,

910
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: just get to know you a bit more and then

911
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: just give me like the first thing that comes to

912
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: your mind. Okay, right, So no, it's so easy. Don't worry.

913
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Are you in early rise or a night owl? A

914
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: night owl. I'm up until like five owl on TikTok Okay,

915
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: what is the best stating advice you've ever received to

916
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: find a common shared interest with your partner that only

917
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: you two share. Oh, that's good. We haven't heard that

918
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: one on here yet. That's good. What is your go

919
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: to pizza order? Honestly, I randomly really like mushrooms on

920
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: my pizza now and more of like a white pizza. Okay,

921
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: Bianca pizza, Bianca situation with some onion. Anything that gives

922
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: you like the worst breath imaginable, like there and I'll

923
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: eat it. What is one word that your best friends

924
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: would use to describe you thoughtful? Thoughtful? Well, that's good one, okay.

925
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: Switching to what is your favorite curse word? Probably fun? No, Oh,

926
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: we gotta new money here. I also love the fact. Okay,

927
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to bleep that out, but please keep it.

928
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: And most people are like, wait, can I swear on here?

929
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Can I say it? I'm like I said too in

930
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: one second. I love it. I love it and it's

931
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: unique one that we've never heard. So you heard it

932
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: from Ariel first ums loved and they just changed it

933
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: to London. It's so good. Um, what is the most

934
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: played song or artist in your playlist? Um? Probably still Aba.

935
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: I know that that was like really a thing for me,

936
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: but maybe I'm still free. Oh my god, I love yeah,

937
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: I was always there. Okay. What's your favorite cocktail? Anything spicy?

938
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: So I love like a spicy mescal, a spicy tequila,

939
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: anything that the rim has tejene as well, and like

940
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: as many hallopenias as you can. So spicy, like cucumbery

941
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: type of a situation. Okay, I love that too. If

942
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: you could be any animal, what would it be? I

943
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: think a dolphin. I don't know if it's because like

944
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: the first tell me of what you would be, but

945
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: dolphins have actually really high EQ and they're very like empathetic.

946
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: They're so smart. They're very smart, and they're very like

947
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: they actually have self awareness, which I think is very

948
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: interesting for like a sea animal. Okay, what is the

949
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: current screensaver on your phone? Honestly, I don't. I always

950
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: use the classic ones. I never have anything that is different,

951
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: but I just have like the desert situation, the lovely

952
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: little desert look at that. It could be Utah, could

953
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: be the Grand can mean. We don't know. I'm going

954
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: to change it now. Okay, Well, let me know we

955
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: can always change this answer. Just just DMS the screenschat

956
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: of what you change it too. Um? Okay. If you

957
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: could visit one place in the world, where would you go? Um?

958
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm really dying to go to Africa. Honestly. I love

959
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: like terrains like that, I love animals. I really that's

960
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: one part of the world I really have not explored

961
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: at all. So that's like one specific country, probably m Kenya. Okay,

962
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm dying to go to Tanzania as well. I'm dying

963
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: to see Rwanda. Okay, well one day added to the

964
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: bucket list manifest that Okay. Last question for this part.

965
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: If you had to describe this season of The Bachelor

966
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: in just one word or one phrase, what would that be. Um? Authentic.

967
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone was very much themselves, whether that

968
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: be good or badge, whatever that means. I feel like

969
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: everyone really tried to put that foot forward. And I

970
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: feel like Zach cured a season of like pure honesty

971
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: and was very much himself, and I feel like he

972
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: really brought us to that place. So I feel like

973
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: he's always made everything authentic. Anytime there's issues or drama

974
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: you would send people home. So I feel like the

975
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: season was very authentic. Okay, I'll take it. I love that.

976
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: Now we have a couple last things before we let

977
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: you go. First is our resource section, which basically it's

978
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: we'd love to just keep our listeners informed and give

979
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: them quick, easy access to different resources, especially in regards

980
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: to racism. So my resource is it's called bronicity dot

981
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: com and it's I had talked about doctor Lucretia Barry

982
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: on the podcast a couple weeks ago in the three

983
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: and thirty podcast Resource. But barnicity dot com is basically

984
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: a website that offers anti racism education with different courses

985
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: and events. It actually offers both paid and free courses,

986
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: so really anyone can go and sign up to get

987
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: some of those resources. Courses. They have some geared for kids.

988
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: They also have some for adults and caregivers, and then

989
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: also some for educators or leaders who want to do

990
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: more like speaking in leadership roles on like culture, race, ethnicity,

991
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: all of that. So it is called brennicity dot com. Again,

992
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: you can sign up for their free courses. They will

993
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: send you a book in the mail and then you

994
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: can just access all of the courses online. So that

995
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: is my resource of the week, and Ariel, if you

996
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: have one, we would love to hear yours as well. Yeah,

997
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people might not know this, but I'm

998
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: actually Jewish, and I feel like in recent events I've

999
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: been happening, there's been a huge surge in anti Semitism.

1000
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: It's been an ongoing issue globally, but particularly in the US.

1001
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: Jews account for two percent of the population, but there's

1002
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: sixty percent of all hate crimes. So I feel like

1003
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: it's important to kind of get the conversation open. And

1004
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: one of my favorite books is The Choice by doctor

1005
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Judith Eva Eager. She talked about her experiences and aush Fitz,

1006
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: what she overcame and how she kind of turned that

1007
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: into helping others. So she helps people with PTSD and

1008
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: became a psychologist eventually, and she talks about her choice

1009
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: and kind of humility, humanity. She talks about the importance

1010
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: of getting yourself out of a situation and turning that

1011
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: around through yourself and healing. So I feel like that's

1012
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: a very important resource for me personally. Wonderful The Choice Choice. Yeah,

1013
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: all right, well, thank you for sharing that one, and

1014
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: again to all of our listeners. We usually will include

1015
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: these on our Highlights reel of Instagram for about or

1016
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: have yet where so you can always go there, click

1017
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: on them, read through them, listen through them, whatever you need.

1018
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: It's just a great way to get started, So thank

1019
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: you Ariel. We will add that to our highlight real

1020
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: as well. And then one last thing before we let

1021
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: you go, which is just a fun way to wrap

1022
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: up every interview, is we would love for you to

1023
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: share your rose and your thorn, which is basically your rose,

1024
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: which is the highlight, like your favorite moment, whether it

1025
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: was during filming or now watching it back just of

1026
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: the season, and then a thorn, which would be the opposite.

1027
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: So whether it's a negative moment, a terrible memory, something

1028
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: awkward or cringeworthy that you wish you didn't said, whatever,

1029
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: it might be your rose and your thorn. My rose

1030
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: would be the one on one. I feel like that's

1031
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: where I really started to open up to Zach. That's

1032
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: where I really started to heal. I feel like he

1033
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: helped me heal from a lot of my past relationships

1034
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: and when I'd experienced and be open in that way.

1035
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: So that one on one kind of like pushed us

1036
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: into the next stratosphere and really got us close. So

1037
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: that was really important for me. So I guess the

1038
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: moment would be that the one on one, but like

1039
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: the process would be kind of healing and thorn. I

1040
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: feel like it was really hard to every time that

1041
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: the women would leave, so especially as like the season continued,

1042
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: you just developed such close relationships. Everyone use such like

1043
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: nuanced relationships, and everyone like becomes such a part of

1044
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: the group. So I feel like the second that you

1045
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: know you're getting a rose and you're going up there,

1046
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: you know that someone isn't, so that was hard for me.

1047
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: Like the second you would have to say like a

1048
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: huge goodbye to someone that you're so close to would

1049
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: be also the next step that you're in the next

1050
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: phase of your relationship. So that was really difficult. And

1051
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: this is where I see the thoughtful side of you

1052
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: come out. I think, like, like you said, if your

1053
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: best friends were to describe you, very thoughtful and always

1054
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: like looking at both sides and you know the positives

1055
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: and the not so positives of a scenario. But Ariel,

1056
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: it has been so much fun watching you. It has

1057
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: been even better finally having you on You're somebody that

1058
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: Michelle I know probably bombs you couldn't chat with you

1059
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: this week, but thank you for hopping on Happy Hour.

1060
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: And we like to tell everyone too like we're always here.

1061
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: So if you ever need advice or somebody to talk to,

1062
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: or to ask questions or support, just let both of

1063
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: us know, and we are always here to support you girls.

1064
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: So thanks for hopping on, and we can't wait to

1065
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: see where this I hate saying this, where this journey

1066
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: goes with Zach and you all Right, Well, that was

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Speaker 1: so much fun having Ariel on. I'm such a fan

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Speaker 1: of her and she just keeps growing on me. I

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Speaker 1: sat at the beginning, I didn't know how far she

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Speaker 1: was going to go. It maybe called her a sleeper,

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Speaker 1: but she's I think she's gonna make it far and

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of her. So thank you Ariel for

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Speaker 1: joining us, and a huge thank you to all of

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Speaker 1: our Happy Hour listeners. We of course couldn't be here

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Speaker 1: each and every week without you. Thanks for bearing with

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Speaker 1: just me this week and again hopefully Michelle will be

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Speaker 1: back ready to go next week and feeling better. And

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Speaker 1: everyone don't forget that new episodes of The Bacher air

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