Speaker 1: Lebron has chosen one tatto normally when guys have nicknames
Speaker 1: to have him tatty on himself. Do you have King
Speaker 1: of RB tattling?
Speaker 2: I got a king on my leg though, but I
Speaker 2: got that way before I said I was King R
Speaker 2: and B L like okay, like I would.
Speaker 3: Have said, it's I think it's so much. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: did that when I was like eighteen, but I think
Speaker 3: they could.
Speaker 1: That looked like you drew that one.
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifights, hustle, Pa Price,
Speaker 4: One slice got the Brothers sat all my life, Poppy
Speaker 4: grinding all my life, all my life and grinning all
Speaker 4: my life, sacrifights, hustle, Bat Pryson, One Slice got the
Speaker 4: Brodeis swat all my life.
Speaker 3: I been grinding all my life.
Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition of Club Shah. I am
Speaker 1: the host also the reprid of Club Sha Sha, and
Speaker 1: the guy that's stopping by for a drink and conversation
Speaker 1: is a Georgia Board singer. I love having guys from
Speaker 1: the A. A songwriter, rapper, choreographer, dancer, multi platinum star,
Speaker 1: self proclaim King of R and B from the A
Speaker 1: jack Keys brock Jock queen. If I the only one to.
Speaker 2: Get that wrong, everybody, nah nah, everybody, Cause see you
Speaker 2: came back right and said queen queen.
Speaker 1: So it's good Jock queeze. Yes, brother, how you do it?
Speaker 3: I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: But you know, anytime we have somebody on the show,
Speaker 1: especially like your talent, we always toast. We got to
Speaker 1: toast the third album.
Speaker 3: Okay, put the third album. And you said, rapher, I'm a.
Speaker 1: Singer the king R and B King R and B. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no rapping, no rapping.
Speaker 3: I did have a top twenty song this rap, I
Speaker 3: mean top thirty, but I'm not a rapper.
Speaker 1: So that means me and you talented exactly. Cheer up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you say, there's been a minute since you've been on
Speaker 1: that brown so we may not drank too much of that.
Speaker 3: Bruh.
Speaker 1: You told me you just got up the road. You're
Speaker 1: in Sacramento with a Breuke Duval, Monica Trey Songs. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, yep, San Francisco. How was that?
Speaker 3: It was? Good? Man? The Bay Area always show up.
Speaker 2: I've been performing in the Bay Area since about two
Speaker 2: thousand sixteen, so we was in the arena this time.
Speaker 2: You know the same spot with stepped on play Chasing
Speaker 2: Chasing and had it sold out. It was crazy, man,
Speaker 2: Like I l I loved it. It was a good experience.
Speaker 1: Man. You was telling me about Okay, you're exactly produced
Speaker 1: by Future and you got a new bar, a new
Speaker 1: bar opened up in Stone Crests Wine and Taples Bar.
Speaker 1: But when we were talking off camera, you're like, bruh,
Speaker 1: I had to put some food on the menu.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, had to cause you know us we ain't
Speaker 2: coming enough for the for the crackers and the cheese,
Speaker 2: right right. We want the shrimping grits, the the salmon bits,
Speaker 2: you know, the street corn.
Speaker 1: You know you got it like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got out of there.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how why you call it wine
Speaker 1: and tample because you gotta full menu.
Speaker 2: I mean cause you know when you come in there,
Speaker 2: we had the crackers and cheese laid out cause it's
Speaker 2: some people that want the wine and the cheese. But
Speaker 2: like I say, like, you get to looking too hard
Speaker 2: and you get to see in that shrimping grits and
Speaker 2: you stomach get to going and you get them on
Speaker 2: that you.
Speaker 1: Wor that exactly, So what made you decide to open
Speaker 1: a place like that. You frought. Like you said, you're
Speaker 1: from the age, You're born and raised, and you're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think people my age, my vibe,
Speaker 1: wanna feel this. This is the feeling. This the this
Speaker 1: the vibe.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm from the east Side and Stone
Speaker 2: Crests on the east Side. I'm from Western Chaplin, you know, mkay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: chop yeah, I'm from the chap So, so you know
Speaker 2: what I'm from right there, you know, being from that side,
Speaker 2: we always have to go downtown to like feel fancy
Speaker 2: or feel ill again or something like that. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I wanna bring this to the east Side, cause we
Speaker 2: got some people over here that fly that deserve to,
Speaker 2: you know, not travel so far that she have it
Speaker 2: right here in the neighborhood. So I partnered up with
Speaker 2: a lady named Venika Marx and we started to wind
Speaker 2: and tappas lounge.
Speaker 3: She already had it going, you know.
Speaker 2: I I just put my two cents in on it
Speaker 2: to you kind of take it to another level and
Speaker 2: we offer people some jobs in the community. You know,
Speaker 2: I feel real good about that, you know, letting people
Speaker 2: in on it. And it's still a cool thing, cause
Speaker 2: it's like people get to see me up there, Like
Speaker 2: you get to come up there and actually see me
Speaker 2: not being an artist.
Speaker 3: You get to see me being Jack Queetson. I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, real.
Speaker 2: Talk the owner, and it's like it get people a
Speaker 2: different insight on me, and I think it just bring
Speaker 2: me closer to my fans.
Speaker 3: So I think it's something real good for the community.
Speaker 1: You've been in the game for over a decade. How
Speaker 1: you feeling about your career thus far?
Speaker 3: Man been in the ben in a game for over
Speaker 3: a decade. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good about my career of course, you know,
Speaker 2: it's other levels that I wanna reach.
Speaker 3: Kay, you know, I was just I was just reading
Speaker 3: a message from my pops this morning.
Speaker 2: He takes me at like six, He like, Man, I
Speaker 2: just wanna tell La Man, and uh, don't stop for
Speaker 2: shooting for the stars, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: for show, I ain't gonna never stop shooting shooting for
Speaker 2: the stars.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Of course, we always feel like we could be bigger.
Speaker 2: You know that's I I think that's everybody that's great.
Speaker 3: But I believe in God, so I know his time
Speaker 3: is perfect.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, if this position I'm in right now,
Speaker 2: you know, I know I got ways to go, and
Speaker 2: it make me feel good cause I know I haven't
Speaker 2: reached my peak at all.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, I'm twenty eight years old. I got
Speaker 3: a long way to go.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how did you just decide
Speaker 1: to come up with the King of R and B?
Speaker 1: Because you know, there's gonna be a lot of pushback
Speaker 1: because they're like, hold on, wait a minute. You just
Speaker 1: gotten this thing a decade. Bruh. They've been people doing
Speaker 1: this twenty thirty year and you gonna call yourself to
Speaker 1: King of R and B? Why did you decide to
Speaker 1: come up with that title?
Speaker 3: Man? Really, I was on the road, okay.
Speaker 2: I had just left a show. I had did like
Speaker 2: two shows on one day. It was some radio shows
Speaker 2: and I was I was in the car on their
Speaker 2: way to the next uh airport to leave that UH city, right,
Speaker 2: And they was like, man, there was Jock Queize uh
Speaker 2: that just shut down the stage. It was a radio
Speaker 2: show and they like, man, he just killed it. That's
Speaker 2: really the King of R and B. Like, if you
Speaker 2: got kids like he the King R and B for
Speaker 2: this generation.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I went in the airport and I was just
Speaker 3: by myself, you know, just telling it. It was on
Speaker 3: my mind. It was on my mind, you feel me.
Speaker 2: So I just pulled out my camera like, you know what, man,
Speaker 2: I'm the king of Army for this generation. And I
Speaker 2: think it went over everybody head because I actually said
Speaker 2: for this generation, right, you know.
Speaker 3: But the conversation sparked so much heat and it was crazy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Everybody say, you know, R and B dead and the
Speaker 2: R and B that, but it's like you think about it,
Speaker 2: I really brought the conversation like to the forefront. M
Speaker 2: you know, people start going on the King of R
Speaker 2: and B tours. They got shows called Queen's of R
Speaker 2: and B. Like they just the whole thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I had people that was talking about me that I
Speaker 2: never knew back at the on me like, man, I'm
Speaker 2: talking about Bobby Brown said.
Speaker 3: So I'm like that ain't that hard, you know, Even
Speaker 3: though no matter what they said, I.
Speaker 2: Was just happy that they was a exactly you know,
Speaker 2: I was just happy that my name was in they mouth,
Speaker 2: you know, and it and it worked.
Speaker 3: I feel like that was the biggest thing.
Speaker 2: That I ever did in my career, cause it it
Speaker 2: It just did so much for me, Like that was
Speaker 2: the biggest press I coulda ever had. Right, Nobody ever
Speaker 2: told me, like, hey, say you're the King R and B.
Speaker 2: Only thing somebody told me to do is name my
Speaker 2: album net cause I wasn't gonna name.
Speaker 3: My album to King R and B.
Speaker 2: Right, But a lady named Rachelle from my team, she
Speaker 2: was like, you should name your album King R and
Speaker 2: B down because if you don't name it King AR
Speaker 2: and B down, you don't cause all that rougets When
Speaker 2: somebody else do it, you gonna be mad and you
Speaker 2: can never do it again.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, let me just take my shot now,
Speaker 3: and I did it, and I took whatever came with it.
Speaker 1: Well, who was your competition? And this generation R B
Speaker 1: the King of BARB? But who's the competition?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I've been doing it for so
Speaker 2: long or like you gotta think like I've been dropping
Speaker 2: mixtape since two thousand ten or something like that, right,
Speaker 2: you know, So I came from the mixtape era, like
Speaker 2: before streaming and all that, like back when I was
Speaker 2: giving people my CDs, back when you can go on
Speaker 2: live mixtapes and that piels and download 'em. So I
Speaker 2: feel a lot different about who I am as a artist,
Speaker 2: more so than other artists that just came in a game.
Speaker 2: But like, no disrespect to them, but I feel like
Speaker 2: my ground was harder like it it. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: go viral back then. It was like get out in
Speaker 2: the streets seeing, let's see what's going on. You couldn't
Speaker 2: just go viral, right, But I respect the viral in
Speaker 2: this because I go viral these days, you know.
Speaker 3: But I know where I got it from.
Speaker 2: And I just know me putting in that work for
Speaker 2: all those years, and those my fans growing up with
Speaker 2: me for all those times. Like you gotta understand, these
Speaker 2: girls that was fourteen now they like twenty eight. They
Speaker 2: got kids, right, and they like, man, I don't have
Speaker 2: these kids to your museum exactly.
Speaker 3: So it's like I'm a part of their life. Sound change.
Speaker 2: So it's different from me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I just feel like that about myself in the generation.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, Okay, t I called himself
Speaker 1: the king of the South. Lebron is the king. I mean,
Speaker 1: Lebron has chosen one tatter normally when guys have nicknames
Speaker 1: to have them tatttered on himself. Do you have King
Speaker 1: of BARB patted?
Speaker 3: I got a king on my leg though, But I
Speaker 3: got that way before I said I was King.
Speaker 1: Of R and B.
Speaker 3: Like okay, like I wouldn't said it's I think it's
Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, I did that when I was like eighteen,
Speaker 3: But I think.
Speaker 1: They could have looked like you drew that one.
Speaker 3: He drew that if I get tad that early, you
Speaker 3: know yea, but I had to get it.
Speaker 2: I've been calling myself like king and want to be
Speaker 2: a king, you know what I'm saying. So I just
Speaker 2: feel like it was all written right.
Speaker 1: You talked about it earlier. And I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of people say R and B is dead, R and
Speaker 1: B is dead, R and B is dead? Is R
Speaker 1: and B? And is R and B dead? Or what
Speaker 1: can if it's not dead? I mean, obviously people it's not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to say it's not
Speaker 1: what it once was. But seeming like everybody is the
Speaker 1: little all the seven little guys, that little baby, little dirt,
Speaker 1: little this little that, and you know you're e all
Speaker 1: the guys you know, so it's it's R and B dad,
Speaker 1: or what's going on with R and B.
Speaker 3: I don't think R and B dead. But you know
Speaker 3: the difference between rap and R and B.
Speaker 2: Right, you'll have the top R and B guys, but
Speaker 2: they won't collaborate, right, but you'll have the top rap
Speaker 2: guys and they'll collaborate.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's something about R and B that
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Man, Like I just I just was around a bunch
Speaker 2: of the R and B guys at the Rock Nation
Speaker 2: brunch and I'm trying to break everybody.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like bruh, let do it
Speaker 3: like let's you know, it's getting them something real and
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's there. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: it's different from the rappers, cause the rappers, you know,
Speaker 3: we like, let do it and we go do.
Speaker 1: It, right, But the singers ain't no rapper though.
Speaker 3: But I but but I came up like that. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know I was in every rap camp. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying to cash money? Yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And look at where I'm from, you know, and the
Speaker 2: people that I grew up around it's just in me
Speaker 2: the way I move Like I'm a R and B
Speaker 2: singer for show, I'm smooth to death, right, But when
Speaker 2: it come to the way I handle business more so
Speaker 2: sometimes I I probably would handle it like a rapper,
Speaker 2: cause more so than singles with rappers, Rappers might not
Speaker 2: tell you the talk to their manager. Rappers might just
Speaker 2: be like, let's go get it in right, versus the
Speaker 2: singer might be like, man, how let my an R
Speaker 2: and how let my manager and all that?
Speaker 1: You like time, and there's so many people involved they
Speaker 1: go to an By the time they get back to you,
Speaker 1: that's like, nah, we're not gonna be able to do that, Like.
Speaker 2: It's water down, bruh. Cause I was really coming to
Speaker 2: you genuinely, like I was coming to you to rock
Speaker 2: with you, like I like your music, but I actually
Speaker 2: was trying to get to know you as a person
Speaker 2: so we could rock, right.
Speaker 3: But now it's like, Ann, I don't even like something
Speaker 3: like that no more.
Speaker 1: You just that quick? You know what I'm saying? What
Speaker 1: what drew you to R and B?
Speaker 3: What drew me the arm?
Speaker 1: Do you listen to a lot of R and B
Speaker 1: when you growing up? Cause you know in the southe
Speaker 1: you growing up, you know Teddy pend the Grass and
Speaker 1: you know Hal Melvin and all those guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what you you cleaning the house, you listen to
Speaker 1: R and B. It wasn't no rep going on back
Speaker 1: in the day.
Speaker 3: My sister was a big fan of the King of
Speaker 3: R and B. You know, she was a huge fan
Speaker 3: of him. You know, she's had all his pictures. She
Speaker 3: used to play all the music.
Speaker 2: So I feel like by me hearing that and seeing
Speaker 2: my sister like that, it kind of got in me
Speaker 2: a little bit. Of course, I love Michael Jackson, right
Speaker 2: and uh David ruffin the Temptations and things like that,
Speaker 2: but just what I grew.
Speaker 3: Up around, like and my mama.
Speaker 2: My mama played a lot of the Issley Brothers. She
Speaker 2: played a lot of Earth Wind and Fire. Yes, my
Speaker 2: mama played the the the Gems. And I go to
Speaker 2: my aunty house and she'll play the radio a lot
Speaker 2: out here.
Speaker 3: J Wine on the radio. Just all that.
Speaker 2: I feel like it brought me to it. But what
Speaker 2: really inspired me the most, I think it was the
Speaker 2: child Michael Jackson. Like when I seen him as a kid,
Speaker 2: I'm like, dang, Like that's Michael Jackson as a kid
Speaker 2: and I was young at the time, so I'm like,
Speaker 2: I feel like I can do that. I got into
Speaker 2: my first talent show at nine years old and I won,
Speaker 2: and after I won, I was just like, I could
Speaker 2: really become this.
Speaker 3: I wanted oh four, I did. I ain't do it
Speaker 3: on five cause I felt like the star. You know.
Speaker 2: I went to middle school, did it in six one
Speaker 2: and six sem eighth, ninth after I wanted ninth grade.
Speaker 3: I'm like, i'm'a get somebody else's shot, That's what.
Speaker 2: And that's when I start getting into the real recording
Speaker 2: studio and stuff, and you know, start making my name
Speaker 2: as a artist. Jacquize cause I was always just Jacqueize
Speaker 2: from the neighborhood right with the bracest who can sing, right,
Speaker 2: you know, That's who I was.
Speaker 3: And I took it to Jocquie on YouTube. Then jah
Speaker 3: Quiz will block or joaquisc wodn't or now John Quiz
Speaker 3: will cash win and Jacquez's on TZ like who took
Speaker 3: it all? The wheel?
Speaker 1: Is that one of the things that now is because
Speaker 1: you can use it and and you said you wanted
Speaker 1: to be up on an umbrella, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people like, you know, we can do this thing independent.
Speaker 1: We got YouTube, We got other avenues that we can
Speaker 1: put I we can d display our talents without having
Speaker 1: to go to a uh A big recording uh entity.
Speaker 1: What made you decide? OK, obviously you got start on YouTube,
Speaker 1: but what made you decide to say, you know what, nah,
Speaker 1: I want the umbrella?
Speaker 3: Man? What happened was? I remember I was I was
Speaker 3: leaving l from uh Lavista road Okay, you know Livista.
Speaker 2: I was leaving from La Vista Road, man, And I
Speaker 2: was it was like two thousand fourteen, and I was
Speaker 2: with my manager Jonathan.
Speaker 3: We had just dropped my project nineteen nineteen. Was going crazy.
Speaker 3: It was one of my biggest projects to this day.
Speaker 2: And I remember I was telling Johnson, like, man, we
Speaker 2: got a lot of new artists coming out, but they
Speaker 2: s they going straight to TV and radio. I'm like,
Speaker 2: we killing it on the internet, you know, And I
Speaker 2: got a fan base, but I'm like, we gotta get
Speaker 2: on the radio and the and the TV screen. We
Speaker 2: didn't have no knowledge of how to do it at
Speaker 2: the time, right, you know, we fresh in this like
Speaker 2: we just we just knew, Like my manager's brand new
Speaker 2: I'm the first artist he managed.
Speaker 3: Of course he dealt with other artists, but I'm the
Speaker 3: first one. He really like put his hand all the
Speaker 3: way in.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So we knew together.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, I gotta call somebody. I end
Speaker 2: up calling rich On my Cory and Daddy Kay Corey,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, Corey, I wanna get with rich Game,
Speaker 2: Like I see what Corn and Thug doing, Like, I wanna.
Speaker 3: Get with y'all.
Speaker 2: He like, man, that's crazy. I'm a burry Man right
Speaker 2: now right, I'm like for real? He like yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 2: he like, send me a song. I end up sending
Speaker 2: him a song called Soldier that me and Korn.
Speaker 3: Had did, and uh, he was like. He called me back.
Speaker 2: He was like, man, send me the video, and I
Speaker 2: send him in the video. And on the next call
Speaker 2: it was birry Man. Birdman was like, man, don't even
Speaker 2: trip young youeinn. I'm'a put you down. And i'm'a put
Speaker 2: you down with this, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I knew his voice. I'm like, yam this burd Man
Speaker 2: for real? I just made it happen.
Speaker 3: I went and met Birdman. I got to deal, you know.
Speaker 2: So it was just more so all the artists that
Speaker 2: was coming in, I feel like they was kind of
Speaker 2: taking a step over me. But I knew my work,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I'm like, I gotta get
Speaker 2: with some people that could put me on the level
Speaker 2: that they get into, right. And so that's why I
Speaker 2: decided to sign with bird Man. I used to always
Speaker 2: say as a kid, I wanted sound kashun too.
Speaker 1: So it was just Al Ritt because I don't think
Speaker 1: bird Man had a whole lot of R and B.
Speaker 1: It's all rap for him, right, It's all rap.
Speaker 2: I I can't remember a male R and B artist
Speaker 2: that was signed. I think they had they had a
Speaker 2: female that was that uh used to sing with Ric James.
Speaker 3: What was her name? Used to sing with Ric James?
Speaker 1: Not Teena Marie Tina Marie was started a Kashman really,
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, he could say, I mean even
Speaker 1: don't realize it. I mean when I first heard her,
Speaker 1: I thought she was black, Yeah, of course, and she was.
Speaker 1: And she's only like five to two and with a
Speaker 1: voice of a seven foot tall woman that weighed four
Speaker 1: hundred pounds, but she could just flat out blow blow
Speaker 1: one of the greatest R and B singers. Unfortunately, I'm
Speaker 1: afraid it is not gonna get his recognition because of
Speaker 1: what transpired off the stage. No matter what you're thinking
Speaker 1: about it. I I believe you can separate the two.
Speaker 1: You can say you're appalled and grow and angered and
Speaker 1: saddened by the things that he did off but there's
Speaker 1: no denying that R. Kelly, the way he could sing
Speaker 1: and the way he could write, that's nothing to debate.
Speaker 1: Do you feel that he will get his proper recognition
Speaker 1: ever because of what transpired or will he be forgotten?
Speaker 2: And like you said, you said we separated the person.
Speaker 2: We separated the man from the artist. We strictly talking
Speaker 2: about art, Yes, we strictly talking about art. I believe
Speaker 2: that when they talk about the art, that they'll talk
Speaker 2: about R. Kelly because it's so many people in the
Speaker 2: world that's done. There's so many other things, right, you know,
Speaker 2: we totally against what the man did, right, But as
Speaker 2: the artist, I believe that that they'll talk about him.
Speaker 2: You know, he's a he's a he's a he's a
Speaker 2: great with what he's done. Like I was just talking yesterday,
Speaker 2: I believe I could fly. It's one of the greatest
Speaker 2: songs in the world. Yeah, Like, you could play that
Speaker 2: song at a graduation, you play it in church, you
Speaker 2: play the Lady wedding, you could play it wherever you know,
Speaker 2: and it's gonna inspire you. And that's what music's supposed
Speaker 2: to do. It's supposed to inspire you and make you
Speaker 2: feel good.
Speaker 3: And he was. He was good at making those type
Speaker 3: of songs.
Speaker 1: Like if I were to say, okay, give me your
Speaker 1: m Mount rushmore R and B singers, I mean, you
Speaker 1: can do this generation you could do. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about the greatest, four of the greatest R and B singers.
Speaker 1: Who you putting up there?
Speaker 3: It's Mike R and B oh pop pop yeah, king
Speaker 3: of pop?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, so art the artist. I gotta say r.
Speaker 1: Kelly okay Usher okay, wow ya Okay, my list looking
Speaker 1: pretty good right there? My list looking good.
Speaker 3: I'm putting Chris Brown up there.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh I got one more R.
Speaker 3: And B like killing it Jack Queeze.
Speaker 1: Okay. I ain't mad at her, I ain't mad at you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Ron Asley, he left you off. Bruh. I
Speaker 1: I would have done that. That what I would have together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, damn package.
Speaker 1: Right and I had Max with Okay, what about women?
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta go. It's Whitney R and B u
Speaker 3: h Yeah, I gotta go Whitney Houston Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Okay, Damn, i'ma doing good at this day.
Speaker 3: Uh, Mary j Ah bad look at it.
Speaker 1: I got three for three.
Speaker 2: H i'm'a just go ahead and say R and B women.
Speaker 2: Huh cause ericaba do not R and B humh Nah,
Speaker 2: that's like soul New York school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna just say faith.
Speaker 1: Okay, faith the.
Speaker 3: Mary j.
Speaker 1: I mean you got three.
Speaker 3: I'm'a i'm'a put.
Speaker 1: What w what we would consider Mariah pop pop?
Speaker 3: And then I ain't na ane ill pop. I think
Speaker 3: kay Marian carry pop.
Speaker 1: I mean, you dang, this is your list. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: not throw.
Speaker 3: 'e right on here?
Speaker 2: Nah, keep faith on him, keep faith on my list. Okay,
Speaker 2: Rian Carrey, I don't know shit.
Speaker 1: But I feel good. I got I got three. I
Speaker 1: mean you can name three on my three. So I
Speaker 1: feel pretty good boy this Okay? Oh, Tory Lanes, Okay,
Speaker 1: you close with him? Yeah? What transpired is tragic, sad,
Speaker 1: definitely shouldn't have happened, shun abordable facts. Have you talked
Speaker 1: to him? You got still close? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We still close. I ain't. I ain't talk to Tori
Speaker 3: though I tried to talk to him, right, but I
Speaker 3: ain't talk to him.
Speaker 2: You know, I was with him through the periods of everything,
Speaker 2: you know, cause we real friends, right, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's my brother. But uh, I ain't talk
Speaker 2: to him since. But of course you know, I still
Speaker 2: holler these people make sure he okay, right, and things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: How how do how do you? How do how do
Speaker 1: you avoid things of that nature? Because you look you
Speaker 1: you y, you kick R and B. I mean you
Speaker 1: can uh easily. I mean you go out, you're having
Speaker 1: a good time. Maybe you have too much brown, or
Speaker 1: you have too much wh whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: you find yourself in a situation. How have you been
Speaker 1: able to avoid some of the pitfalls that we see
Speaker 1: so many of the other entertainers.
Speaker 3: Well for me, f you know, I.
Speaker 2: Think you know, cause we none of us really know
Speaker 2: what happened at night right with Meg and Toy, you know,
Speaker 2: But just speaking on myself, I keep my handlers around
Speaker 2: me and people that love me you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, like, I got a lot of older people around me, right,
Speaker 3: you know, so we all trip sometimes.
Speaker 2: You know, I could have too much ya can get
Speaker 2: the tripping, or I could just be talking too much
Speaker 2: and need to get out the room. So I have
Speaker 2: people around me that's gonna make sure I'm always staying
Speaker 2: who I need to be right, you know, and they
Speaker 2: gonna know how to eliminate the people in the room
Speaker 2: who don't need to be.
Speaker 1: There, right.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I got my aunt with me, I got bright with
Speaker 2: you know. I got people that have been around me
Speaker 2: for forever. You know, it's not no new people. So
Speaker 2: they not around me just like, oh that's Jock Quez.
Speaker 3: I can't tell him nothing. They like, why I slap
Speaker 3: you in the head? L like what you on? Right, Like,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So just what I tell a lot of athletes and
Speaker 1: people all the time have people around you to tell
Speaker 1: you what you need to know and not what you
Speaker 1: wanna hear exactly, And it's not always easy, nah, because
Speaker 1: a lot of people that you have around you, they
Speaker 1: get to go to the club and they get to
Speaker 1: experience things because of you. Exactly. Now, if they tell
Speaker 1: you the truth and you get upset all of a
Speaker 1: sudden that riot stops. So do I really tell Queasy
Speaker 1: you know? He he he he I it this awful?
Speaker 1: Do I just like, let just go with the flow
Speaker 1: and keep this thing going. But you say you've surrounded
Speaker 1: yourself with people that sincerely have your best interest in mind.
Speaker 1: That's just like my mama.
Speaker 3: My MoMA got mad at me, like last week, she
Speaker 3: got mad at me, like like, but you gotta.
Speaker 2: Think like some people, Mama are just like they'll get
Speaker 2: to a level where they feel like they done parenting,
Speaker 2: so that right, so they kid might do something they
Speaker 2: just it's not even concerned, or they might just not
Speaker 2: even be concerned because of what the child brings to the.
Speaker 3: Table, right ye see, my mama don't care about none
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: N Right.
Speaker 2: See, I did something last week and my mama cut
Speaker 2: me off for like two days, right you.
Speaker 3: Know, and I'm like, dang, yeah, but she like I can't.
Speaker 2: You know, my mama don't play that, right, you feel
Speaker 2: me like yeah, And that keep me grounded too, because
Speaker 2: of course, you know, when you real, you don't never
Speaker 2: want your mama to be upset with you.
Speaker 3: Cause when we love our mama so much so Mama
Speaker 3: mad that you beat you can't even eat right s.
Speaker 3: I'm like that, ru for real.
Speaker 1: So it just keep me grinding the start when the
Speaker 1: child become grown.
Speaker 3: That's what my mama always say. She always tell us,
Speaker 3: like you I you my baby.
Speaker 2: I mean like you ain't no little bob, but you
Speaker 2: my baby's I'll be like, alright, and it just keep
Speaker 2: me grounding.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: That's how my whole team is like, from my.
Speaker 2: DJ to my security to everybody around me. They never
Speaker 2: gonna just let none slide right. It's always gonna be
Speaker 2: like bruh, you chip right, or like we we finished.
Speaker 3: They don't care what you talking about, y but.
Speaker 1: You also close you close the thug gunner. And obviously
Speaker 1: when you're playing a cl uh uh attention to what's
Speaker 1: going on in Atlanta? Have you talked to those guys
Speaker 1: that be spoken to 'em keeping their heads up, keeping
Speaker 1: their heads up?
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't necessarily get to speak to it myself.
Speaker 2: But I I knew how they was doing, you know,
Speaker 2: from people that I knew inside, right, you know, And
Speaker 2: of course I'm very tight with the family.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I I spoke the thud mom, not too long ago.
Speaker 2: I speak to his sister's probably like every other day, right,
Speaker 2: dolliyan door. We been close since the beginning, cause, of course,
Speaker 2: you know, we all came through the door together with
Speaker 2: Ridge Gang, right, so we all well was with cash
Speaker 2: money at the same time. We all came from nothing
Speaker 2: to something at the same time. So we I feel
Speaker 2: like we'll keep our relationship fever. And of course, you know,
Speaker 2: every day I'm praying for Thud, you know, and I
Speaker 2: just keep my faith alive that you know, he'll be
Speaker 2: right back out here.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, when when when we're gonna talk the
Speaker 1: d took the deal, people automatically assume he snached, he rolled,
Speaker 1: he got paper. Now, I mean, how did how did
Speaker 1: I mean, have your relationship changed because one is still
Speaker 1: in and the others out.
Speaker 2: Well, I think for me it was it was more
Speaker 2: so a thing with all of us, whereas like everybody
Speaker 2: kind of did they own thing. We a l like
Speaker 2: m most times I only see them when it was
Speaker 2: all of us, right, So it was was sor a thing,
Speaker 2: whereas like I'm.
Speaker 3: Talking to him, I'm talking here, I'm talking him, I'm
Speaker 3: talking here.
Speaker 2: We hanging out separately, right, it was always a we together,
Speaker 2: We together, It's all one family, you know, So we
Speaker 2: was always together.
Speaker 3: So one thing I always been good at.
Speaker 2: Cause since I've Donna cash money, it's been so much controversy,
Speaker 2: you know, from the time I came in with the
Speaker 2: Burnyman and Wayne thing to now this situation. Is like
Speaker 2: I've always known how to stay in my position right
Speaker 2: because I always knew if I stayed in my position,
Speaker 2: you never know what's gonna happen up top. And I
Speaker 2: always never tried to be some of them not So
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna dive into conversations. I know I'm not
Speaker 2: supposed to be in right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like I'm a i'm'a allow the world to work, and
Speaker 2: i'm'a allow things to happen that's supposed to happen, you know.
Speaker 2: And once everything's come back together, I'll be right in
Speaker 2: my place cause I never shift its side all.
Speaker 3: I stayed right here and just side.
Speaker 2: I just waited for everything, and I'm a little bruh r.
Speaker 2: That's how I've been the whole time. You know, in
Speaker 2: every situation, I always been joc quezs And I think
Speaker 2: people respect me so much cause they know, I got
Speaker 2: my own mind, right, Like I could be in a
Speaker 2: room full of killers, y know, I could be in
Speaker 2: a room full of business men, I could be in
Speaker 2: a room full of inn But I i'm'a have my
Speaker 2: own mind no matter what situation I'm in.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like period?
Speaker 1: Right, do you believe Gonna can get back to the
Speaker 1: top of the music game?
Speaker 3: I believe God can work miracles. Right?
Speaker 1: You also qua uh Uh was close with the Migos.
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Quevo still close obviously, uh. And he said that
Speaker 1: once take Off lost his life tragically, uh, that the
Speaker 1: Migos were no more that obviously something transpired between Quebo
Speaker 1: and Offset. Yeah, that caused them to go their separate ways.
Speaker 1: Have you spoken the Quabo since take Off the pass
Speaker 1: of the tragic passing of of of Uh take Off? Yah?
Speaker 1: And do you believe they can mend the fence and
Speaker 1: become a a and get back together again? Well?
Speaker 3: I spoke to Quebo, I spoke office.
Speaker 2: You know, I hang with both of 'em, right, And
Speaker 2: you know, of course RP take Off that was my brothers, right,
Speaker 2: you know, we were like cousins or something. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, But with them, they so close, man,
Speaker 2: you know, and the industry paints so many pictures that
Speaker 2: it's hard to believe what you read, right, So for
Speaker 2: me more so with them, you know, we grew up
Speaker 2: together for real, like before the industry, Like we was
Speaker 2: outside together like mm shooting dice in each other's shoes, like,
Speaker 2: you know, like literally friends. Like I had to learn
Speaker 2: how to call them boys by their stage names, right,
Speaker 2: Like I had to like practice.
Speaker 3: It right, like I'll say, I'll say, I'll say.
Speaker 2: Cause I'm used to call them kiyai, right, you know.
Speaker 2: So from them doing whatever they doing, I believe it
Speaker 2: could be worked out because once again, that's a family situation, right,
Speaker 2: and you never want to be an outsider, even though
Speaker 2: that's my family comedy. I don't wanna step in from
Speaker 2: the outside, and then they get back close and they
Speaker 2: leave me on the outside, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's like I'm gonna let don't handle what they handle.
Speaker 2: I handle both of them separately, right. I pray for
Speaker 2: them any day, cause it's it's always better together, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But you know, I love them,
Speaker 2: and I believe one day they'll be back on that
Speaker 2: stage doing they doing what they love together.
Speaker 3: Cause that's how that's how we came in.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at you. So you grew up
Speaker 1: on the East side of Future, within your neighborhood, so
Speaker 1: there was a lot of guys that when you were
Speaker 1: growing up and you was like running around you probably
Speaker 1: seven at eight nine years old? What did you want
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 3: I want to be a singer, that's what you all.
Speaker 1: No sports? I wanna sing?
Speaker 3: I play sports. I gotta hoghlight on YouTube. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was five.
Speaker 2: I had the Florida Games coach out there in my
Speaker 2: high school already when I was in tenth grade.
Speaker 3: He was already out there looking at me.
Speaker 1: You was about that.
Speaker 3: I was hard then.
Speaker 2: You know what really made me feel good? I found
Speaker 2: out uh later on who uh Jack Us Rodgers was.
Speaker 2: Remember Jack said he bout my height, right, So I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's I could do it for real, right,
Speaker 2: So I was taking that serious. But the reason I
Speaker 2: stopped playing football was my coach left the school. And
Speaker 2: once my coach left the school, when our players died,
Speaker 2: it was just a lot going on. So I was like,
Speaker 2: I gotta do what I know I'm great at like
Speaker 2: I'm good at football, but I'm great at singing. So
Speaker 2: let me go ahead and stop playing with y'all.
Speaker 1: So from the time you, yeah, you was football this thing,
Speaker 1: So w was football more because football is more like
Speaker 1: a friend thing or my whole boy play. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you go to p Yeah, let's go to PRAC. Let's
Speaker 1: go do this and do that. Singing is a if something.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially like, oh you're not in the group, right,
Speaker 1: that's a lonely business. It's all you by yourself all
Speaker 1: the time, trying to get better, I mean s.
Speaker 2: For me, sports it was cool cause I had a
Speaker 2: best friend, my boy Devin. He was the man and
Speaker 2: he was the one and two bad. I knew he
Speaker 2: was better than me, right, But I still like being
Speaker 2: with Devin cause it's like he.
Speaker 3: He he run his way. I'm'a do that one, right,
Speaker 3: you feel me? We two different type of.
Speaker 1: Bats, right.
Speaker 2: So for me, it was like, Okay, I know Devin
Speaker 2: better than me in football. He the man in football,
Speaker 2: like I'm the I'm the man in football, but singing,
Speaker 2: I'm just the man.
Speaker 3: It was easy to t e. It was just easy
Speaker 3: to choose run around the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Everybody rallied around me because I was good in football too,
Speaker 2: Like we like we used to play two hand touch, right, and.
Speaker 3: I could you care about it?
Speaker 2: That's what really made me wanna play middle school ball,
Speaker 2: cause of course, like anybody else in the hood, your
Speaker 2: daddy gonna make you play sports, right. So I slick
Speaker 2: hated football at first because I was forced to play right,
Speaker 2: But once I got good in the neighborhood, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what I like to do.
Speaker 3: But on the other hand, my mama was super down
Speaker 3: with the.
Speaker 2: Music, take me to schools to perform and doing different things.
Speaker 3: I was just like music more so fence men.
Speaker 2: I'm super good at it, and I had my whole
Speaker 2: community really banking on me, right, really literally, Like I
Speaker 2: used to go in the beauty sluns the OGLB with
Speaker 2: me like who saying something like and me and you
Speaker 2: walking down the street. You like, man, Then my nephew
Speaker 2: hit it, and I just hit it. That's just how
Speaker 2: it used to be, right, you know. So I knew,
Speaker 2: like this is my real calling.
Speaker 1: You know, you say you grow Uh your first job
Speaker 1: was sweeping up at the barber shop. Yeah, you sing
Speaker 1: out in front of Kroger. Yeah, so being basically I
Speaker 1: mean you like, okay, you in front of Kroger. I
Speaker 1: mean people like you. Man, you could really sing, you
Speaker 1: c you should, you should like do something with this.
Speaker 2: It was a guy I was out there singing one day,
Speaker 2: cause this back when the payphones used to be outside
Speaker 2: the grocery store, and they had the benches out there
Speaker 2: in stru right, and I remember me and all my
Speaker 2: partners were stand out there on the bench or something
Speaker 2: and I might just hit it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I remember out there hitting it one day, just singing.
Speaker 2: A guy named is Squize come up to me and
Speaker 2: he like, man, you could sing like you hard like.
Speaker 2: He like, man, I'm finna put you with somebody. This
Speaker 2: guy named Dix RP.
Speaker 3: Decks lead.
Speaker 2: He was my first manager. He passed away though, so
Speaker 2: his Squezey was like, man, don't put you with him.
Speaker 2: I'm in the eighth grade, so I'm like that at
Speaker 2: the time, I'm singing with my homeboy.
Speaker 3: His name was Joe.
Speaker 2: Joe was super hard in the hood. Like Joe, he
Speaker 2: was writing all the music, but he could sing, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. He was my age too. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, bet, i'm'a come to a student. I'ma bring
Speaker 2: my boy Joe. So now I got a opportunity to
Speaker 2: go to the studio. So now I'm I'm I'm about
Speaker 2: to go to the studio. I remember, uh, I think
Speaker 2: one of my older cousins took me on my sister,
Speaker 2: but I remember No, Dix took me dex Lee.
Speaker 3: I remember we went and tried to pick up one
Speaker 3: of my homeboys.
Speaker 2: Cause now that I know I'm going to the studio,
Speaker 2: I'm tryna put my home boys from school on right,
Speaker 2: I'm like, bruh, come to the studio. I'm'a let you
Speaker 2: rap up my song. Cause we had been wrote the song.
Speaker 2: Was like, we're finna go record it.
Speaker 3: We'd go to record the song.
Speaker 2: Basically, when my partner heart I tried to put on
Speaker 2: the song, he end up choking, but me and Joe
Speaker 2: end up killing it. We end up making a three
Speaker 2: song demo, and that three song demo took me from
Speaker 2: Kroger to Cross Atlanta. You know, it took me from
Speaker 2: Kroger to block in t I was signing a bad
Speaker 2: boy South at first. When I first came in at fifteen,
Speaker 2: I went from Bad Boy South to think it's a
Speaker 2: game entertainment, right, you know, from think it's a game entertainment.
Speaker 3: I went to cash money. So just from singing in
Speaker 3: front of Kroger, you know, it took me to where
Speaker 3: I end the day.
Speaker 2: But if I wanna never believe it myself and got
Speaker 2: out there and just singing, and if my neighborhood woulda
Speaker 2: never pushed me to that point, I probably.
Speaker 3: Would have never been.
Speaker 1: And they start to finish, huh.
Speaker 3: It's a finish. So many other guys were doing so
Speaker 3: many other things.
Speaker 2: That's why I look everybody from the barber shop because
Speaker 2: that was like the safe place. You know how the
Speaker 2: barbershop used to be is like everybody would protect you,
Speaker 2: like they wouldn't let you get into nothing.
Speaker 3: Like if they seeing guys going left, they'll make sure
Speaker 3: you go right. Yeah, And that's that's how my whole
Speaker 3: life was.
Speaker 1: That was the village and I and I I spoke
Speaker 1: to their dealer with talking about job and not to
Speaker 1: get too far cut, but you know when in in
Speaker 1: the community, young fella was cursed son. Don't curse you
Speaker 1: too young to curse that son. Don't smoke no sick.
Speaker 1: Why are you smoking sick. We were too young, y son.
Speaker 1: While you stealing that, i'm'a tell you now, go home
Speaker 1: and tell you mom. It was always we were policing
Speaker 1: each other exactly. But I think somehow along the way, y'all,
Speaker 1: I mean, parents started becoming try to become friends. My
Speaker 1: grandparents weren't trying to be no friends. M The dynamic
Speaker 1: won't ever change. You're the child, I'm the adult. We're
Speaker 1: gonna stay in that relationship role. I think it's becomes very,
Speaker 1: very hard to be a parent when you're trying to
Speaker 1: be a friend. And what we had where adults were
Speaker 1: adulting doing adult things and kids stayed in their place.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Your mom was in the military. Yeah, damn, you got everything?
Speaker 1: What nah she just say eight or make sure that
Speaker 1: both make sure that bed. See.
Speaker 3: I got two sisters, okay, so they did everything.
Speaker 1: They older than you.
Speaker 3: I got a big sister, Risey, and I got my
Speaker 3: little sister Miracle.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So my mama was one of the f you know,
Speaker 2: like you gotta think like she slick, like she slick
Speaker 2: raisers by herself a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It was slick, just hurt like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But she got married two thousand three. Of course my
Speaker 2: pops was dead before that, but it was kind of
Speaker 2: just hurt. But my sisters, they was good girls. Like
Speaker 2: I ain't have to worry about my sisters running across
Speaker 2: the street.
Speaker 3: To the boy house right doing all that.
Speaker 2: So my mama, we had so much respect for her
Speaker 2: cause of what how much she was doing. We ain't
Speaker 2: even wanna do nothing right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like even when I started trying to do stuff in
Speaker 2: high school and different, suff like that. She just used
Speaker 2: to hit me in my chests and he used to
Speaker 2: make me just like not wanna do nothing like you know,
Speaker 2: I ain't.
Speaker 3: I ain't. She ain't used to have to whoop me.
Speaker 3: She just could like catch me off guard. She two
Speaker 3: in my chests or that. It used to make me
Speaker 3: feel so bad and that shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It used to work though, you know, but my mama,
Speaker 2: I never just wanted to we we never wanted to
Speaker 2: do nothing out of the un support.
Speaker 3: Nah, never that that that was the thing.
Speaker 2: And then she used to reward us like she was
Speaker 2: be like, man, so y'all gonna make a's and b's,
Speaker 2: I'd buy some shoes, like, hit.
Speaker 3: You something you like, I'd get you something, you know.
Speaker 2: I used to want all the joinings, right, So I'm
Speaker 2: in school, tryna get a's and b's for real. I
Speaker 2: had never made a seat toil like, but I had
Speaker 2: never got a seat to like my s like probably
Speaker 2: like my senior year. Wow, real to I was a
Speaker 2: b un a roll the whole up, and I was uh.
Speaker 2: I graduated top ten percent of my class with the
Speaker 2: chords on my neck and out that I couldna went
Speaker 2: to any college. I was smart, right, I was supposed
Speaker 2: to be the valedictorian. But see the y my eleventh
Speaker 2: grade year, I end up doing online classes tryna do music.
Speaker 2: And then something happened where I didn't do one class
Speaker 2: and it brought my GPA from like a F three.
Speaker 3: Point nine to like a three point four. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Right, So you told your teachers and your mom. Was
Speaker 1: your mom disappointed when you told her, because as you said,
Speaker 1: you're you're a great student. Yeah, your m you told
Speaker 1: your mom to mom? I uh, and the college thing
Speaker 1: ain't for me. I'm gonna pursue. I'm gonna pursue this
Speaker 1: dream of mind.
Speaker 2: Nah, she know I wasn't going to college, like my
Speaker 2: mama knew, Like if I woulda went, it woulda been
Speaker 2: my choice. But see, my mama knew I one of
Speaker 2: them kids, like if I'm thinking it, I could make
Speaker 2: it happen, cause I had made so much happen in
Speaker 2: high school, right Like I was already on the radio.
Speaker 3: In high school. I had a show called the Team Report.
Speaker 3: It was on V one O three. So every Saturday,
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 2: Go to the radio station and I would report everything
Speaker 2: that's going on in every high school. So if y'all
Speaker 2: needed new computers, if y'all ceilings was messed up, if
Speaker 2: y'all don't like the cafeteria food, whatever y'all want. I
Speaker 2: I get everything y'all want. And I go on the
Speaker 2: radio Saturday and be like, man, make ne'er need new ceilings.
Speaker 2: You know, child's high school. We need new computers.
Speaker 3: D d D D da da dah. We did it.
Speaker 2: I I was the child that I mean, I was
Speaker 2: a student that used to go to the to the
Speaker 2: board for the board meetings, you know, for the school.
Speaker 3: Like I was a good kid right all the way up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, So it seemed to me,
Speaker 1: you put all of your eggs in one basket, this
Speaker 1: music basket. Didn't have a plan B, no C, no
Speaker 1: d A. This gotta work.
Speaker 2: I was just talking to my uncle about that. He
Speaker 2: just reminded me by that today. I was like, I
Speaker 2: didn't have a plan B because I wanted to focus
Speaker 2: so much on play. Hey, I I I literally tried
Speaker 2: to x jobs out. I went and got a tattoo
Speaker 2: on my neck when I was thirteen, cause I remember
Speaker 2: they were saying like, if you get tattoed on your neck,
Speaker 2: you can't get a job. So I was instantly trying
Speaker 2: to ax myself out of the job category.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you ain't do that tattoo that on your leg? No,
Speaker 1: nah bag, I don't like you did that one. Ain't
Speaker 1: no way, ain't no way, no artist, ain't no way
Speaker 1: he gonna put his name on now?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: How went man in fourteen and tatted my hands? I remember,
Speaker 3: I remember my reading was like, y'all pleeezed, why did
Speaker 3: you do that?
Speaker 1: And what you say?
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I got your mom my mama, honestly, honestly,
Speaker 3: when I got my neck taped she didn't know I
Speaker 3: was going, but I always had dreads, So I got.
Speaker 2: It in a spot on my neck where cause she
Speaker 2: couldn't see her right. If I wore a pony taest,
Speaker 2: she could see it. If I let the dress down,
Speaker 2: she couldn't see it. Let the hands, I went and
Speaker 2: got Fear of God on my hands. Uh, you probably
Speaker 2: canna be able to read it nice so oh h
Speaker 2: but fear God on my hands.
Speaker 1: But she didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't even know she noticed that. They fast right,
Speaker 2: cause it was like I was I was kind of
Speaker 2: moving by then, and I'm doing shows. I'm probably getting
Speaker 2: like five hundred dollars a show, right. My boy Bright
Speaker 2: used to pay me to come to the teen club,
Speaker 2: you know it. Used to call and be like, we
Speaker 2: come up here, it's lit. He was like, cause I
Speaker 2: used to you know how everybody knew me. This what
Speaker 2: we try to make me go to the next thing.
Speaker 2: He like, man, come up here, i'm'a get you five
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Just do some of your songs. I used to pull
Speaker 3: up for that five hundred cause at the time, five
Speaker 3: hundred was a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: I'm used to shoot one bet, one shoot two bet. Three.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So if they talking about they got five hundred, I'm
Speaker 2: going so this whole hustle. My mom she was just
Speaker 2: and everybody that, like I say, they was just always
Speaker 2: with it, the whole everybody. It was always playing a
Speaker 2: they knew like we gonna make sure joall queese make
Speaker 2: it like period.
Speaker 1: Right you had a you had a aunt sing with
Speaker 1: Shirley Season. Yeh, what was that experience? I mean did
Speaker 1: you talk did you talk to her? You like and
Speaker 1: and did she give you like something? You can make it?
Speaker 1: You can? You you really good?
Speaker 3: Well I was young. You gotta think.
Speaker 2: Well, my auntie that was doing that was Shirley Season.
Speaker 2: Though I was literally a child, see my grandma. I'm
Speaker 2: a big on gospel to church.
Speaker 1: Yeah thing, you know.
Speaker 2: So I was around a another gospel say her name
Speaker 2: was Dotty Peoples. So I used to be at the
Speaker 2: radio station with dotty people's. I used to be everywhere
Speaker 2: with Dotty Peoples. They probably be with Cherlie Season, only
Speaker 2: ditty people, right, So I never got a chance to
Speaker 2: holler at them as an adult, not even as a teenager.
Speaker 2: I never talked to dotty s since I was a kid,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm pretty sure she seen me now, like, damn,
Speaker 2: that's Quei, right, cause.
Speaker 3: Of course they call me Jackuis. Nobody's calling me Jaquis.
Speaker 3: Back then it was just Qui. We you know. So
Speaker 3: I know she see jack Quis now and put the
Speaker 3: face with the name of my family. I know she
Speaker 3: proud of me.
Speaker 2: But you know, just having that background, I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of people pray for me, you know, coming
Speaker 2: from that church background, I feel like I'm just standing
Speaker 2: on all they shoulders and all they prayers.
Speaker 1: Talent. You say you've been performing talent shows probably since
Speaker 1: she was five or six year years of age. Did
Speaker 1: you ever get nervous?
Speaker 3: MM? I always had butterflies. I don't you know, it's
Speaker 3: so funny.
Speaker 2: I don't get 'em no more though, really not really
Speaker 2: like these past couple shows I've been knowing, I ain't
Speaker 2: been having no butterflies, probably cause my set only been
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes, right, it been so quick and easy.
Speaker 2: I ain't been having butterflies, but starting off in them beginning,
Speaker 2: I used to always have butterflies. I knew I would
Speaker 2: do my thing right, but I was just real jittery.
Speaker 2: I used to get off the stage every night and
Speaker 2: ask Bright. I used to be like, I do like
Speaker 2: what you thinking about you show?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I still do that cause I don't think I'm perfect.
Speaker 2: I always know its ways to get better. I always
Speaker 2: ask somebody to record me or something like that so
Speaker 2: I can come off it and study myself.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you still do that.
Speaker 3: I still do it.
Speaker 2: Bright still record the show every night. I still get
Speaker 2: off look at the videos, make sure, like I.
Speaker 1: Need to do this better.
Speaker 3: I don't like that cause I'm always trying to get better.
Speaker 1: Your first talent showed, they said, uh you did Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson had to thro and everything. Yup? You you so
Speaker 1: I I I'm assuming that you are a huge Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: Fan, major Michael Jackson fan, like I was so to
Speaker 2: the point Michael Jackson. I tried to get a Jerry Carroll.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason I had the afro wig. My
Speaker 2: mama wouldn't let me get the Jeri carb We went
Speaker 2: all the way to the salon and when we got
Speaker 2: down there and.
Speaker 3: She like, you sure you wanna get a Jerikerr. I'm
Speaker 3: like yeah, I'm nine years old. I'm like, yes, I
Speaker 3: wanted she like, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know she you know she she'm she won't gonna let
Speaker 2: me go that far, right, So she let him twist
Speaker 2: my help in a little twist or whatever like that,
Speaker 2: and then she was like, just put we gonna go
Speaker 2: to the music fly and just get the little afro
Speaker 2: and just do that. She was like, it's gonna work
Speaker 2: cause we donna have the outfit, like the outfit gonna maker.
Speaker 2: And she's showing me pixels to make me feel it, right,
Speaker 2: trying to get me out of the thriller mode back
Speaker 2: into the child right right cause I'm past that at
Speaker 2: this point, right.
Speaker 3: But I end up doing that and it ended up working.
Speaker 3: Like I said, my mama, man, she been my biggest
Speaker 3: supporter from they won.
Speaker 1: How hard is it because we've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: child stars be great child stars but don't transition into
Speaker 1: adult stars. And we see some that just start out
Speaker 1: and they just as adults. Uh So was it hard?
Speaker 1: Because I look at like Bile Wild, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. You look at Beyonce, how she was able
Speaker 1: to transition and she, I mean, she's a a wildfol down.
Speaker 1: How hard was it for you because you had this
Speaker 1: enormous talent as a child, right, and to to harness
Speaker 1: that and to transition and becoming an adult star, Well,
Speaker 1: what I.
Speaker 3: Did was I used to always try to time everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, So even when I started getting tattoos, I slowed
Speaker 2: down a little bit cause I'm like, I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to transition, right, but I don't wanna do all this
Speaker 2: stuff as a kid. Then when I turned eighteen nineteen,
Speaker 2: for the one, I ain't got nothing to do. So
Speaker 2: I'm also like, Okay, I ain't gonna cussing my music yet.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I ain't gonna just cursing my music, right,
Speaker 2: I'm like, i'm'a wait til I turn eighteen, so that
Speaker 2: way they see the difference. You know, i'm'a still talk
Speaker 2: about you know what i'm'a talk about, right, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But i'm'a just bleep the words out.
Speaker 2: So I would record a song, but I used to
Speaker 2: be like, bleep the words.
Speaker 3: Out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I don't wanna cush it cause I want them
Speaker 2: to see the transition, right. And I also feel like
Speaker 2: a big part of my transition was where I'm from. MM,
Speaker 2: Like We all went from.
Speaker 3: Kids to that at the same time, you know.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like I W I moved out my
Speaker 2: neighborhood came back a different person.
Speaker 3: I got the transition right with them. Like you know,
Speaker 3: how the neighborhood go.
Speaker 2: You had to have some of your friends gonna start
Speaker 2: going with all the females, some of your friends gonna
Speaker 2: start smoking, some of your friends gonna start doing this,
Speaker 2: getting in trouble some you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I was there for the whole thing, and with that,
Speaker 2: I was able to transition to music. I was able
Speaker 2: to go from like, Okay, we lovey w as kids
Speaker 2: to like, okay, now we stepping in these parties in
Speaker 2: high school, like we doing this stuff, my swag changing
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 3: It was just a it was just a good transaction.
Speaker 2: It wasn't corny, right Like, it wasn't like, oh, Jock
Speaker 2: Queiz was doing that when he young and now he
Speaker 2: doing all this. It was always merging like oh you
Speaker 2: growing up, right, you gonna I can tell you seventeen
Speaker 2: from sixteen, I can tell you eighteen, eighteen and seventeen.
Speaker 2: Just gradually grown with my fans and j and just
Speaker 2: tryna trying hard as I can to just really show
Speaker 2: them who I really am, right, you know, without showing
Speaker 2: him too much.
Speaker 1: Did you experience any jealousy because obviously you you they
Speaker 1: they see the enormous talent. Obviously you gonna be going
Speaker 1: places that some of them are not gonna go, and
Speaker 1: maybe if some didn't choose to go. Was there any jealousy,
Speaker 1: any resentment because I obviously everybody knows who you are
Speaker 1: in school?
Speaker 3: Uh jealousy? Sh I don't think so okay, like I
Speaker 3: ain't have a hard time. It was easy, like I
Speaker 3: wanted a kid that you know, were to like her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all easy, like, but you gotta think, like if
Speaker 2: you didn't like me, you automatically I hater he cause
Speaker 2: it was like cause it was like, how you don't
Speaker 2: like Queen?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Like QUI cool?
Speaker 1: Like what's up with you?
Speaker 3: Like how you don like Queen? He singing little bruh
Speaker 3: sing You're like you be fresh. He ain't bothering nobody,
Speaker 3: little brother, don't even smoke like he's trying to like
Speaker 3: Eve chilling the crowd, little chilling man. Anybody that didn't
Speaker 3: like me. It was always because of female period.
Speaker 1: You was popular with the girls. Oh man, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can say, yeah, I bet they get all the girl
Speaker 1: that's still to this day.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't even saying to get the girls, what
Speaker 3: are you get them?
Speaker 1: I was, come on, oh you you you you dressed?
Speaker 1: So you've been dressing for a minute. This ain't new. No,
Speaker 1: this ain't because you an R and B saying this
Speaker 1: ain't because you on stage. You've been with the rag.
Speaker 1: You've been with the thread for a minute.
Speaker 3: Best dressing high school? Did you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I got a picture on the table in the CAPTERI
Speaker 3: and they caught it out on the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey them see you's a person like that.
Speaker 3: And I was top five.
Speaker 1: Man, come on, man, So today everybody talks about independence. Man,
Speaker 1: you need to own this and you need to own that.
Speaker 1: And you say, no, I want to be I want
Speaker 1: to be with a label. That's that's what I What
Speaker 1: is it about being with a label versus being independent?
Speaker 2: I think being with a label versus being independent is
Speaker 2: the machine. And when I say the machine is the money, right,
Speaker 2: Like when you with these people, they gonna support you.
Speaker 2: When you're independent, you gotta support yourself, right. So I
Speaker 2: think that's that's the biggest thing, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I'm surprised that you said that because it seems
Speaker 1: to me and talking to you, you've always believed in
Speaker 1: yourself and this is really the first time that you
Speaker 1: says okay, that support mechanism and you know, believing in
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I don't see the same
Speaker 1: that the belief that you had in yourself from say,
Speaker 1: from the time you started doing this, because like you said,
Speaker 1: you got the tattoo because I'm gonna show y'all I
Speaker 1: can do something even though I got this tattoo and
Speaker 1: you ain't got the hands tatted, and you like, you
Speaker 1: know what, nah football, I'm gonna do my thing, cause
Speaker 1: that's this ain't where it's at. Am I Am I
Speaker 1: off base? Am I missing something here?
Speaker 3: Once?
Speaker 1: You mean like like because I see when you said okay,
Speaker 1: the machine is.
Speaker 2: Saying like you saying like okay, cau. I see you
Speaker 2: believe in yourself. But now you get to the point
Speaker 2: where you feel like you need a machine, right right,
Speaker 2: don't at this level I'm in now. I'm'a always need
Speaker 2: a machine to help, of course, but I'm at a
Speaker 2: level why am now? I got so many fans and
Speaker 2: I built it up so hard of course, with the
Speaker 2: help of the machine and different things like that, I
Speaker 2: honestly do feel like I could have a career independently, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because I I honestly feel
Speaker 2: like I could have had a career independently before the
Speaker 2: machine if I had the knowledge.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: See, we didn't have the knowledge, right, you know, we.
Speaker 2: Was just out of the hood. Tryna make it right
Speaker 2: like we weren't. Tryna hear nothing, right, Like you bring
Speaker 2: a opportunity our way. For the most part, we gonna
Speaker 2: take it because we just tryna get on the screen,
Speaker 2: because we know once we get here, we could take
Speaker 2: it further.
Speaker 3: Right. So I know that, you know, a couple of
Speaker 3: years from now, you probably will see me independent. You know,
Speaker 3: I got my own label.
Speaker 2: Right now, right, you know, so I know that I'll
Speaker 2: be able to one day actually work like the machine.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So as of right now, you're happy with the decision
Speaker 1: that you made that I'm with I'm with a machine.
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. But hey, I'm gathering knowledge about
Speaker 1: how this thing actually works. And so one day there
Speaker 1: may be a time where you see a we's uh
Speaker 1: he doing his own thing, right.
Speaker 3: It might be a time, because I feel like that's
Speaker 3: just a part of growth, right.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like if you with somebody for so
Speaker 2: long and you got love for him, and y'all been
Speaker 2: doing y'all thing for so long, it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: certain time where you gonna be like, man, it's time
Speaker 2: for you to spread your wings. Like I'm ready to
Speaker 2: see you go do something greater. And I just feel
Speaker 2: like that's the evolution of life period.
Speaker 1: Uh damn, that must be what's happening in my relationship.
Speaker 1: They say it's we We donet been against your life's
Speaker 1: time to fit Nah. Nah, I don't wanna go, but
Speaker 1: let me ask you this cash money they know him
Speaker 1: for rappers obviously, you know y th they do what
Speaker 1: they do. They got Lil Wayne and uh uh they
Speaker 1: had a little Wayne. I don't think he's there anymore. Uh,
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj and Drake and you R and B and
Speaker 1: you you mentioned that they had a uh Tina Marie,
Speaker 1: why why not go to an R and B label
Speaker 1: if there is such a thing.
Speaker 2: You know why I unt because when I was coming up,
Speaker 2: people used to try to change me, right, you know,
Speaker 2: I was the young boy with the braces with the
Speaker 2: dread right, white tea, I might be sagging a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know, I would just represent where I was from.
Speaker 1: You already saying you don't have a bracelet though, and they.
Speaker 2: Ain't got no dreads and they and they ain't sagging
Speaker 2: they pants and they ain't doing it.
Speaker 3: Black glasses. I wasn't on that then, right, So you
Speaker 3: couldn't get me to throw on no black glasses, like
Speaker 3: like like with no black leather jacket in the black
Speaker 3: pants or a black I wasn't doing it. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what a fitted cap at the white tea, the bandanna,
Speaker 3: the I wasj I W. I wasn't on that, So
Speaker 3: I felt like I used to tell people, I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: the only people I could sign to is cash winning,
Speaker 3: right cause I'm like, they not gonna try to change me.
Speaker 3: I'm'na be able to come right in there and be myself, right.
Speaker 2: And that's really why I went, cause I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: not finna go to somebody and they start trying to
Speaker 2: tell me what to do, like you need to dress
Speaker 2: like this, or you need to do that. Bird Man
Speaker 2: gave me full cred of control right so soon as
Speaker 2: he did, I'm like, oh so I ain't nothing changing, right,
Speaker 2: you know. So I I I love that about cash winning.
Speaker 1: If that what makes bird band so successful. He's the
Speaker 1: ceo uh uh cash Money obviously, and he's built this multi, multi,
Speaker 1: multi million dollar entity. If that is because he allows
Speaker 1: his artist to have control and he just lets them
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, hey, you came to me, let me
Speaker 1: help you be the best you you can possibly beat.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think the biggest thing about Birdman and
Speaker 2: Cash Money and Slim is that when you in a
Speaker 2: drought or like when a wave ain't even up yet,
Speaker 2: they gonna keep going with you versus another lavel gonna
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, what's the album, what's the single? Okay,
Speaker 2: we gonna put the budget on this single, and this's
Speaker 2: your album single? You know da we do groundwork, you know,
Speaker 2: like we do real groundwork, like Stunner.
Speaker 3: Get out there with you, Like, Okay, you tryna work
Speaker 3: on a mixtape. Okay, let's do the mixtape. O cause,
Speaker 3: let's do this. Okay, let's put it over here. That
Speaker 3: ain't got nothing to do with the label, right, This
Speaker 3: is just stuff to get you hot.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That's the difference in being on Cash Money, Like we
Speaker 2: gonna put in the real work over here, versus to
Speaker 2: where it's like you gonna go in there and start
Speaker 2: recording your first album and you gonna put your single
Speaker 2: out over here, is like you ain't hot. You let's
Speaker 2: try to, like right, let's try to get it all
Speaker 2: the way hot. So when we come out for really
Speaker 2: it it go up through the It go up through there.
Speaker 2: So you get a lot of time, and it's like
Speaker 2: being with cash money, you get like so many bonuses,
Speaker 2: Like you might be hanging around Bird one day and
Speaker 2: just meet so many other people off free game. They
Speaker 2: didn't charge you none for it cause you met 'em
Speaker 2: with for him, right. I met so many people with Bird,
Speaker 2: you know, and foreign real relationships with them where where
Speaker 2: it was never about money or nothing like that. So
Speaker 2: it just it's a lot of places that come with
Speaker 2: being with cash money, for sure.
Speaker 1: But obviously there's been some I mean you've heard, uh,
Speaker 1: he doesn't pay his artists and dance and of that.
Speaker 1: Obviously you haven't experienced any of that, or you still
Speaker 1: wouldn't be there, of course.
Speaker 2: I mean I feel good, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like I never had a problem with my money with Bird.
Speaker 2: I never had a problem with with cash money period.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The only thing I want cash money to do is,
Speaker 2: you know it just keep pushing the gas on the
Speaker 2: on the radio, That's it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I never had a problem, you know.
Speaker 2: And when I do hear about other people problems, I
Speaker 2: be knowing, like, man, it's business, and I'd be like, man,
Speaker 2: business go wrong in so many other areas, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I try to keep my business
Speaker 2: so on point to the point, I ain't even got
Speaker 2: to think about like, oh, he ain't getting paid. As
Speaker 2: long as I'm getting what I need to get, right,
Speaker 2: I'm cool, Like I want everybody to get what they
Speaker 2: gotta get. But it really ain't got nothing new with me,
Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm I'm getting mine.
Speaker 3: I hope you get yours.
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, Uh, he's been I mean you've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of people say that he's the gold Rapper. Now
Speaker 1: he he's He's unbelievable. I mean, the way he can
Speaker 1: put words together and and words that you wouldn't think
Speaker 1: and in phrases and and make him like I mean,
Speaker 1: bling bling, that was him. Yeah, I mean when everybody
Speaker 1: they they had the other the other side saying bling blean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we saying bling blink. The other side started saying blin blin.
Speaker 1: Is that why I I mean the dreads, the tattoos.
Speaker 1: Has he been that big of an influence on you? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wayne has been a major influence on me. I
Speaker 2: had a cash money chain when I was eight years old.
Speaker 2: I brought it from the beauty supply stuff.
Speaker 3: I had to fall in my mind.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hold up, you got a change for beautiful?
Speaker 3: Yeah, cash on the record chain. I had one one
Speaker 3: before when I was eight.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've I've been had it went chain uh full
Speaker 2: in my mouth being that the braids, I had the braids.
Speaker 3: When Wayne had the braids, Wayne went the dreads, I
Speaker 3: had the dreads. It was he was big on our culture,
Speaker 3: you know, being where I'm from.
Speaker 2: Like everybody loved Wayne, and then I I had a
Speaker 2: I had a real attachment to Wayne too cause he
Speaker 2: was the smallest one, right and when I was running
Speaker 2: outside with all my dolls, I was the smallest n
Speaker 2: So it was instantly like, I'm like Wayne.
Speaker 3: They used to call me that in football two.
Speaker 2: They used to be like, uh, my football name was Weezy,
Speaker 2: you know, not everybody had have nicknames.
Speaker 3: I w I was Wheezy, right, and I carried it
Speaker 3: the whole time.
Speaker 2: But of course I never wanted to be like him
Speaker 2: as a man, but as a child, right, you know,
Speaker 2: he was somebody that I idolized.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm looking at this situation that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: all the artists that you've been with, Ti. You you
Speaker 1: collabed with Ti, Chris Brown, Neo City Girls, Lotto Some,
Speaker 1: i'm'a walk a Little Baby, Future two Chain, twenty one, Savage,
Speaker 1: that's crazy soul music. The soul child was Skate Donielle Jones. Ruh,
Speaker 1: who haven't you collab with that? You would love to
Speaker 1: collab with?
Speaker 2: I a lot of colloud with Wayne Nikki Okay Drake, Okay, Beyonce,
Speaker 2: her jay Z.
Speaker 3: Kendrick. Oh yeah, they I'm gonna get that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get that.
Speaker 3: You're gonna help me out. You gonna put in that word.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, for sure, if I ever run across in
Speaker 1: him and say, hey, you know, my boy man, he
Speaker 1: been trying to do some work with y'all. He liked
Speaker 1: that too, for real, though, Oh that gonna WORKA work,
Speaker 1: that gonna work.
Speaker 3: You put that laugh part out.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, so when you go into the studio with
Speaker 1: these are with these these people, Uh, are you nervous? Nervous? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm a real one, like like I'm a real man,
Speaker 2: Like I'm a real human being, right, Like I'm not nervous.
Speaker 2: Like now, do I get excited still? Yeah, Like I
Speaker 2: might be there with my favorite my heart might be
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Eleamatic way if you get butterflies when you go in there,
Speaker 1: cause you say you don't get butterfly going on? Stay
Speaker 1: you no more?
Speaker 3: Nah, no butterflies.
Speaker 2: But see, it's like I could walk in a room
Speaker 2: with somebody I done been wanting to meet. It is
Speaker 2: like I I don't been around so many people now,
Speaker 2: and then I'm like I'm a grown man now, so
Speaker 2: it's like it's different, like you know, like man, it's
Speaker 2: different fan out.
Speaker 1: I'll be fan out some time I played Khu though
Speaker 1: they don't know it, but I be.
Speaker 3: Fan of him. Nah.
Speaker 2: Last time I was probably feeling real good like that,
Speaker 2: or when I met somebody was probably when I, uh,
Speaker 2: when I met Brun, I know that's your boy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got I got to meet bruh Uh when I
Speaker 2: sung the national anthem, right you know, I was already
Speaker 2: talking brun the DM so like, man, Bruh, you know
Speaker 2: you're my favorite playing Roughs. Right, I've been talking brustling
Speaker 2: like a couple of years now. I sent him a
Speaker 2: picture of me like in fifth grade when I had
Speaker 2: to Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Jersey, and he like, nah, that's crazy. But when I
Speaker 3: got to meet him in person, it was just cool.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: After I did it, Brush aluded me seeing him at
Speaker 2: a couple of shows repost.
Speaker 3: What I do. But that's probably the last time I
Speaker 3: been like, bruh, you know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 1: You and future crew you'll grew up in the same neighborhood,
Speaker 1: right okay? And uh he produced they Yeah, did you?
Speaker 1: I mean when you guys are growing up, did y'all like, man,
Speaker 1: we gonna hey, man, you know what you gonna do
Speaker 1: your thing? You gonna do my i'm'a do my thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah what they made? We gonna link back up all
Speaker 1: the did y did? Did that? Thought they were across
Speaker 1: your mind when y'all seven, eight, nine, ten years of age?
Speaker 3: Nah, cause you gotta think I growed with twenty one
Speaker 3: savage two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that neighborhood was go five what the.
Speaker 2: East side was on five see Future one. Future is
Speaker 2: down there on the other side, like Future, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean Future til I got with block Ante,
Speaker 2: like okay, probably like sixteen or something like that. But
Speaker 2: as far as twenty one and offsetting and everything like that,
Speaker 2: we was. I really came up with them. But as
Speaker 2: far as being where we from, I think it had
Speaker 2: a lot to do with Future one to be a
Speaker 2: part of it because he knows where I come from,
Speaker 2: and he knows the level I'm tryna get to, and
Speaker 2: he also knows how talented I am, right, and it
Speaker 2: make me feel good that he actually acknowledges that talent
Speaker 2: because a lot of times you will see a lot
Speaker 2: of people try to play on my talent, right, play
Speaker 2: on my top a little bit, but you'll have a
Speaker 2: person who they acknowledge as the biggest in the game
Speaker 2: come down and reach his hand to me and put
Speaker 2: some light on on me. That's why I salute Future
Speaker 2: so much, and I know it's it's because of my
Speaker 2: work ethic and where I'm from and how solid I've
Speaker 2: kept it in the game.
Speaker 3: I know that's why he wanted to attach itself to me.
Speaker 2: Because you gotta understand the only other artists that he's
Speaker 2: executive producer.
Speaker 3: The album for was Kanye West. Wow.
Speaker 2: So just that line up right there, when when you
Speaker 2: talk about the albums that future executive produce, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be Kanye West and Jock Creeks. That's gonna look amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I be thinking bigger. I be thinking like, man,
Speaker 2: he know that, he know how that's gonna look for me.
Speaker 2: So it made me have a extended love for him, like,
Speaker 2: I know what you tryna do for me on the
Speaker 2: back end, right, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: R How important is it for young artists coming up
Speaker 1: in the game to have mentors.
Speaker 2: I think it's very important for young artists to have mentors.
Speaker 2: I can really say couple of my mentors have been
Speaker 2: Chris Brown. You know, I used to live with Chris
Speaker 2: Brown when I was eighteen, fresh out of high school.
Speaker 2: He used to always tell me things not to do right.
Speaker 2: You know, He's always tell me about everything he experienced
Speaker 2: and everything that I shouldn't do right.
Speaker 3: Donelle Jones Kay was was definitely one. You know.
Speaker 2: Donald Jones went through a lot of the industry, you know,
Speaker 2: had a lot of success. You know, a couple parts
Speaker 2: where he feel like he coulda you know, done more
Speaker 2: and he always you know, l let me.
Speaker 3: Know what to du Trey songs?
Speaker 2: Right, talk to me about a lot of stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: I gotta I got a couple guys that I look
Speaker 2: to when I'm having the issue and I need somebody
Speaker 2: to talk to like that, I call him and uh
Speaker 2: not just even the artist, Like it's a lot of.
Speaker 3: OG's right that you know did a lot for me,
Speaker 3: Like my boy Clay. You know, we praying for Clay
Speaker 3: right now. He did a lot for me, Like a
Speaker 3: lot of people that was just in Atlanta. You know that.
Speaker 2: I get to pick up my phone and call and
Speaker 2: be like, man, I I'm feeling like this, and they'll
Speaker 2: tell me like, man, don't don't do that like this
Speaker 2: what you should really be doing. Focus on this, like
Speaker 2: put all your energy on this, Like think about the
Speaker 2: good things. Don't think about the nigga, right, think about
Speaker 2: the positive.
Speaker 1: You have a song with August and uh, you know
Speaker 1: we know about him. What the entanglement? You ain't been
Speaker 1: in on tanglements?
Speaker 3: Have you? God? Na?
Speaker 1: You say off the.
Speaker 3: Rip note what I'm saying, Cause I had to figure
Speaker 3: out what it was entanglement then, like when you tangled
Speaker 3: up and like s yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah you see you like that now. I don't hope
Speaker 1: you just rapped with Sai. Nah, ain't been nothing like that.
Speaker 3: You that thing and started looking up to the start
Speaker 3: like I thought entangled like you don't snatch some I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I ain't ever see you just trying
Speaker 1: to kind different definition we we wig. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why now they soundly good or different.
Speaker 3: I ain't been in that.
Speaker 1: I ain't been on the public. Uh you were in
Speaker 1: a public relationship. If that's something you do again, or
Speaker 1: you try, Oh you prefer to keep bait. Hey, I
Speaker 1: got you. But I'm a firm believer people can't deap
Speaker 1: up what they don't know.
Speaker 2: I think like with me, I probably I probably much
Speaker 2: so would be like, let's keep it gee with each
Speaker 2: other until it's all O way one thousand and then
Speaker 2: you know, if they seals, they seals right. But if
Speaker 2: you wanna put me out there and do it, cause
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna stop you from expressing yourself about how
Speaker 2: you feel about me. If you want to show everybody
Speaker 2: how much you love me to do it, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, But you gotta know what come with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You gotta know what
Speaker 3: come with it. Might be some girls that might be
Speaker 3: lying and might hit you up and say I did
Speaker 3: this and that and that and that.
Speaker 1: But yeah if you did that and that before you
Speaker 1: got with them with her. But still but still still
Speaker 1: hurt a little bit, Yeah, hurt. It hurt a little bit.
Speaker 1: They be dragging up old stuff, you know, stirring up
Speaker 1: old ish still stink.
Speaker 3: Oh you know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's like, I don't know that's that's
Speaker 2: a tricky one. But you know, it's hard to tell
Speaker 2: a woman not to show people how much how much
Speaker 2: she love you.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What what type of person or what what type of
Speaker 1: relationship person are you? While you are you a gift
Speaker 1: giver or you are like uh uh, you know, baby,
Speaker 1: hey packed the bags, We off the the Bahamas, we
Speaker 1: off the Mexico, we off the Paris.
Speaker 2: Me I'm more so like I'm gonna get you something.
Speaker 2: But I do like to go on trips, but I'm
Speaker 2: not a good trip planner.
Speaker 3: I ain't see you know what I'm saying, Like, it's
Speaker 3: like you set it up and I pay for it.
Speaker 1: Is that a southern thing? Probably terrible?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 3: I try to look for spots. I can't find it.
Speaker 3: She goes search the spot, find a better spot for
Speaker 3: the same price and cheaper.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what it's gonna be. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be bad. I'm about to be fifty five. I never
Speaker 1: built a airline ticket never, never somewhere. Man, I can't
Speaker 1: do it. Man, I beat a man. I'll be in
Speaker 1: apricle so well to go to Atlanta. I'm in Africa.
Speaker 3: I just started booking my flights this year, did you?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't book my flights.
Speaker 1: But you see, I don't feel bad now.
Speaker 2: I got a lot of little diamond points on my stuff,
Speaker 2: so I get a couple of credits, so I have
Speaker 2: to book it from my app.
Speaker 3: So sometimes they'll tell me, like, who you got a
Speaker 3: book it? It made me feel good too. I feel
Speaker 3: like like, damn, I'm booking my own stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't need nobody mm mm I already I already
Speaker 1: know i'm'a be on the pay like fifty grand for
Speaker 1: one ticket somewhere else, so I better leave that alone.
Speaker 1: I've been letting somebody that do that. Yeah, so let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. If you in a relationship and
Speaker 1: you buy some gifts, you expect the gift.
Speaker 2: Back mm in a relationship, Yeah No, I only expect
Speaker 2: stuff back with nobody cause I I never been that.
Speaker 3: I I I never been.
Speaker 1: I don't take no gift back either.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 2: It's like, when I get something, I'd be so happy,
Speaker 2: but I don't get stuff expecting something back cause I
Speaker 2: know what position I'm in.
Speaker 1: And somebody taking a gift back from you? Of course,
Speaker 1: why they do that though.
Speaker 3: Got mad am?
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm saying. But why I'm saying, I mean you,
Speaker 1: I thought you gave it a gift. I thought you
Speaker 1: wanted it to h me to have it. You can't
Speaker 1: get mad now and say well I don't want you
Speaker 1: to have it.
Speaker 2: I n I used to know it was just one person.
Speaker 2: They used to give me stuff. But I know they
Speaker 2: used to only give me stuff to hold it over
Speaker 2: my head, you see. So I stopped accepting it cause
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you tryna give me this, then you
Speaker 2: tryna you give me the gift and wanna pull back up,
Speaker 2: take it, but you're only giving it to me.
Speaker 3: See you have some over me. It's like keep your gift.
Speaker 3: Beat it right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I own, but I don't like people like
Speaker 1: that in general. It's just not just the opposite sex.
Speaker 1: It's not I don't like people to do things for
Speaker 1: you just so they can hold it over your head.
Speaker 1: Hey bruh, you remember I did that?
Speaker 3: That looking for something? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That that that be the people that's looking for some
Speaker 2: way bigg up at you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: You gotta watch people like that. Like you might have friends,
Speaker 2: they might buy some shoes, but then you know you
Speaker 2: got some major going on that you can't bring everybody too, right, Andy, man,
Speaker 2: remember I.
Speaker 3: Got your shoes, remember I.
Speaker 1: D Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all you gottahit 'em me. I appreciate it,
Speaker 3: but we can't. You know.
Speaker 1: This so that purchases you made it? Man, I got
Speaker 1: some money. What's the first thing you bought?
Speaker 3: First thing I bought?
Speaker 1: I bought a roller? Okay, I be I bought a roll.
Speaker 3: I cast out everything I had. I thought I was broke.
Speaker 2: I remember everybody we was in Jerry, I living it.
Speaker 2: Everybody looking at it like it's just amazing. Everybody just
Speaker 2: looking at me.
Speaker 3: I had. I just had the diamond bells, but I
Speaker 3: had the big beils. Okay, I took the little bells.
Speaker 3: I would put the big one on it. This when
Speaker 3: it was all about the bills. But we were a country.
Speaker 3: We ain't know that.
Speaker 2: Even so, I remember I went back to the house,
Speaker 2: I found five thousand, came back up. Then I bought
Speaker 2: a Right after I bought the Rolex, I bought a
Speaker 2: I got a condoor, and I bought the UH and
Speaker 2: I bought a jeep.
Speaker 1: Do you look back at like and any purchases you like? Man,
Speaker 1: what the hell was I thinking? What the elf did
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 3: This? Only thing I looked at like that? I bought
Speaker 3: a chain and lost it. That's the only reason I said,
Speaker 3: why did I buy? I bought like a twenty five
Speaker 3: thousand dollar chain and lost it. It was nice too,
Speaker 3: and lost it like I lost it. Like couldn't saying
Speaker 3: I done lost so much, jurey. That's all the mistakes
Speaker 3: I done make. Period, I done lost so much, Jeury.
Speaker 3: I used to have a ring on everything. I don't wear.
Speaker 3: I don't wanna. I don't wanna ring on everythinger no more.
Speaker 3: But that, you know what I'm saying, I y I
Speaker 3: used to wear you.
Speaker 1: Know what you like Hollywood? Hollywood got all them bracelet
Speaker 1: like that. Y'all want to be related Hollywood?
Speaker 3: You uh you we did telling we I'm saying, I
Speaker 3: ain't you know.
Speaker 2: I think Jerry about it probably be the biggest thing
Speaker 2: that I'm like, Man, why did I spend all that
Speaker 2: money on jury?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: But I don't think I should have spent so much
Speaker 2: money on jury. Like I was going in the jury
Speaker 2: store like early though, eighty thousand, hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: I'm like this, open me a jury business.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, them folk, we were spending it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When we slowed, I slowed down.
Speaker 1: Yeah you shular, Yeah, good job. Yeah. I really used
Speaker 1: to carry a lot of cash on you. You don't
Speaker 1: do that no more, do you?
Speaker 3: Nah? I got my cart on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to carry a little cash.
Speaker 3: I used to like the feeling though.
Speaker 1: You bruh, that's a suthing. Thats gotta be something from
Speaker 1: the South, cause I was the same way.
Speaker 3: Y'all wanna feel it.
Speaker 1: I used to tell people all the time, if you
Speaker 1: see me with less than ten grand on me call
Speaker 1: the car. Somebody just robbed me. Yeah, right around the
Speaker 1: cordy they got they got it. But now I also
Speaker 1: feeling though, Uncle.
Speaker 3: I used to like to just know like I could
Speaker 3: do anything out right now, Yes, yeah, that's how I mean.
Speaker 1: I need to feel. I sometime I just look at
Speaker 1: the cat.
Speaker 3: You know why I stopped though, Man, if it's still
Speaker 3: I still keep a little in but you know, I
Speaker 3: stopped doing it like that cause somebody stole something from
Speaker 3: the one time, somebody that I felt like I knew, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I had the money in
Speaker 3: the bad you know how you carry I had my
Speaker 3: little duff.
Speaker 2: I had it in the duff one thirty thousand, but
Speaker 2: I had it a long way right, like I had
Speaker 2: it like in twenties, right, so you know I got
Speaker 2: the two thousand.
Speaker 3: Bands right in the bag with the clothes just flexing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: go to sleep.
Speaker 2: It's a room full it though, but it's all supposed
Speaker 2: to be your people though, right, get the bad bad
Speaker 2: waking in the morning, it's still something you know some
Speaker 2: in there, but it ain't everything looking at it like this,
Speaker 2: ain't all the cash you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And that's when I stopped, Like, I ain't gonna care
Speaker 3: how it went on me anymore. I'll be getting a
Speaker 3: lot of money and now I'll be looking for a bank.
Speaker 3: I don't know. We gotta get to a bank. Yeah, deposit, yeah,
Speaker 3: go on deposit yeah, cause you could be. You gotta.
Speaker 1: People that you that you have around you think you
Speaker 1: can trust what and they and they do that to you?
Speaker 2: And I have some of my closest people done did
Speaker 2: stuff in me and they mad at me for stuff
Speaker 2: they done, did to me.
Speaker 3: They they home grudges against me for stuff they done.
Speaker 3: Did it? Stole what?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: It's just crazy man?
Speaker 1: So what how do you make? Most of you? Is
Speaker 1: your money from touring? Is that the album? Is it? Because?
Speaker 1: I mean you probably what you tour? How many? How
Speaker 1: many days a year you think you tour?
Speaker 3: I mean I'm probably doing I might do like three
Speaker 3: shows a week? Wow? Yeah? On average?
Speaker 1: Six months, eight months, nine months. I mean obviously you
Speaker 1: take time.
Speaker 3: Off, right, pandemic, that's all the time I took off.
Speaker 2: Really in my career, I probably done did more shows
Speaker 2: than anybody who's done came out with me for real.
Speaker 3: I I don't have to hustle.
Speaker 1: You know, do you feel you were making up for
Speaker 1: lost time or do you feel like, Okay, I just
Speaker 1: I love doing what I'm doing. My fans n want
Speaker 1: to see me.
Speaker 3: Two thousand twenty one, I was making up for lost
Speaker 3: time from twenty twenty. Right.
Speaker 2: I had just got off tour twenty twenty, the King
Speaker 2: R and B tour, right COVID started. So I'm used
Speaker 2: to going on the road and making money. Right, that
Speaker 2: slowed us down. So I had to jump out there
Speaker 2: two thousand twenty one, even while COVID was still going on,
Speaker 2: and go back out there and get back to where
Speaker 2: I know I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Right, you've opened for Chris Brown?
Speaker 3: Uh uh?
Speaker 1: Tory Lanes Ho, how though it? I mean, what's the
Speaker 1: difference in like opening up? Because now when we talked
Speaker 1: about we're gonna get to that, it's like now we
Speaker 1: see comedy shows that RB shows being combined. So when
Speaker 1: you open up for Chris Brown, what's what I it?
Speaker 1: What's that experience?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: That experience for me was was full circle, cause you
Speaker 2: got understand, I come from praying that I meet bro
Speaker 2: one day right to talking to brou on the phone
Speaker 2: to going and stay with Bro making songs with him
Speaker 2: becoming his brother.
Speaker 3: Now opening up on two pone right, it just felt
Speaker 3: surreal for me. Honestly. I remember the first date. I
Speaker 3: remember I had my outfit laid on the dead like
Speaker 3: he was the first day scu sh had a air Max,
Speaker 3: everything laid out on the f on the bed. I
Speaker 3: remember I got there to perform. They put me first,
Speaker 3: you feel me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, fans was.
Speaker 2: Kind of mad, like damn, they put Joah Quis first
Speaker 2: at the Chris Brown show cause they know how close
Speaker 2: me at CB is Like they like, I dang, never
Speaker 2: wanna see Yoah Quis right before CB, right, you know what?
Speaker 2: So I remember going on first performing and I remember
Speaker 2: s people from CBKEMP used to come to the side
Speaker 2: and watch me and go back and tell Bruh.
Speaker 3: I come back. He tell me like, why would you
Speaker 3: win out? Ain't killed it? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They used to make me feel good, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm here now, you know what I'm saying. That one
Speaker 2: night I got to open up right before he went up.
Speaker 2: One night they put me right before he went out,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, dang, this is really what
Speaker 2: it's made of, Like working hard like this what dreams
Speaker 2: really made of?
Speaker 3: Like you work hard, you believe like this really where
Speaker 3: you'll be.
Speaker 2: When I got to open up in him that night,
Speaker 2: right before he went on, I was like, yeah, God
Speaker 2: is real. I've been do that, but it's like it's
Speaker 2: super super like crazy. How you could pray, believe right
Speaker 2: and work hard and do something and then it'll really
Speaker 2: be right in front of your face before you know it,
Speaker 2: you know, at the perfect time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, As I said, we were
Speaker 1: talking earlier about you, was just in San Francisco, you Monica,
Speaker 1: DC Young Fly, and you say. The thing now is
Speaker 1: what they're doing is that people are combining comedy shows
Speaker 1: with R and B shows because you laugh at one
Speaker 1: minute and you singing and dancing and vibe in the next.
Speaker 1: DC Young Fly had him on He's the great guy?
Speaker 1: Is that your I that shit?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 1: I mean? He from the crib too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my boy. Well DC not on the tour,
Speaker 3: but I'm glad you brought him up, cause DC my brother.
Speaker 3: We close, right.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, i'm'a tell you how many
Speaker 2: DC is crazy. I was dropping my EP nineteen before
Speaker 2: I signed the CASM, before I did anything. I was
Speaker 2: at Clark Atlanta during the release, right, Okay, this when
Speaker 2: DC Young Fly was just making videos on his phone.
Speaker 3: This when he first came up. So I remember I
Speaker 3: was in there talking, talking and talking. So I'm leaving.
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, he like, man, I'm DC Young Fly,
Speaker 3: d da dah. I'm like, man, I'm like, buy my CD.
Speaker 3: I'm like bruh, cause I I like, I know you.
Speaker 3: He like, man, I ain't got no Damn Renning man.
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2: Moment cause I'm like, damn, I seen bro there to
Speaker 2: seeing where he at now, right and just seeing that
Speaker 2: like damn a niggas saying like he ain't got it
Speaker 2: then you know what I'm saying, But still came out
Speaker 2: to support me, right, you know what I'm saying, just
Speaker 2: to all the way making it in movies, being on
Speaker 2: wilder'n out, like being one of the faces of this
Speaker 2: culture or this generation. It's just crazy as to know
Speaker 2: where I met him in DC Done came.
Speaker 3: On tour with me.
Speaker 2: You know, we donet been on the tour bus together.
Speaker 2: I told brother when we went on tour. I'm like, bru,
Speaker 2: come on my bust, Like if we going on twit together,
Speaker 2: like you gotta come on a bust with me, Like like,
Speaker 2: don't be like, we gotta be on the bust together, right,
Speaker 2: so that brung us even closer. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Every time I hit Bruh, he like, bro, whatever you need.
Speaker 2: I just did eighty five South with him the other day.
Speaker 1: So it's my brother performing at club. Do you like
Speaker 1: the more intimate setting or d you at the Chase
Speaker 1: Center that you got eighteen twenty thousand, or I mean
Speaker 1: the the R and B. Are you a more intimate
Speaker 1: setting guy? Or do you like the big big arenas?
Speaker 1: Obviously the big arena's gonna be the the money, but
Speaker 1: the the setting, the ambiance.
Speaker 2: Honestly, uh, I feel like now I'm into the arenas, okay,
Speaker 2: cause I'm all about levels. See, I can connect anywhere
Speaker 2: right cause I'll be at the arena, go right to
Speaker 2: the front, connect right there. I can be able to
Speaker 2: see somebody from the top. I'll make 'em, put the
Speaker 2: camera on 'em and make 'em moment Like I'm ready
Speaker 2: for that. Like I know how to do the intimate thing.
Speaker 2: Like I know how to make a big crowd feel intimate.
Speaker 2: I should say that.
Speaker 1: But we see what I mean, what's going on now?
Speaker 1: We see Chloy Bailey, people throw stuff. Gorilla had a wigs. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I g got a wigs at
Speaker 1: water thrown. What's going on? Man? While we while we
Speaker 1: out here Wiland, I mean, you paid good money to
Speaker 1: go see somebody and and you behave in that manner.
Speaker 3: We out here wilder and we out here tripping, We
Speaker 3: out here tripping. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody ain't respecting each other. Well we
Speaker 2: not we not we not respecting the position that God
Speaker 2: put people in, right.
Speaker 3: I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2: I think like when you see a goloriala out that
Speaker 2: just tryna walk to a car doing a thing, getting
Speaker 2: some thought. I don't even know what happened to Cloy.
Speaker 2: That's my little sister. Like we came up together too, right,
Speaker 2: we'sed do theater.
Speaker 1: Together, cause I ba I I'll look at it like this.
Speaker 1: Why would I pay my money if I don't like somebody?
Speaker 1: You think i'ma You think I'm gonna give you my
Speaker 1: money to come see you? You think I'm gonna buy
Speaker 1: something that you you you promoting or you advertising if
Speaker 1: I don't rock with you like that, So you spend
Speaker 1: your good money to come there and to behave in
Speaker 1: that matter, I I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Everybody want to go viral, everybody want to be somebody.
Speaker 3: They'll crash all the way out just to make it
Speaker 3: to everybody know their name.
Speaker 1: And then we saw what happened with the stampede and
Speaker 1: and uh uh finanse times to two time. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I didn't see that happened. Well, they had they were
Speaker 1: performing and they had Uh there was a stampede. There
Speaker 1: was like a mad rush to get out of the club,
Speaker 1: and and and and people some people lost their lives.
Speaker 3: You know, nobody can he That's that's just an unfortunate situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you do you ever concern do you ever
Speaker 1: get worried about damn man? I just because uh who
Speaker 1: was that somebody? Somebody had passed away? Uh. Travis Scott
Speaker 1: had the situation a couple of years ago at at
Speaker 1: uh at one of his events, and you know, people
Speaker 1: lost their lives and some people were injured. Do that
Speaker 1: thought ever cross your mind?
Speaker 3: Now? I ain't never crossed my mind. But I think
Speaker 3: I was talking about the other days. Nothing he coulda
Speaker 3: did to control that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You know, when you when you're a big artist and
Speaker 2: people come out to your shows, they gonna show you love.
Speaker 2: They gonna be out there just they gonna be going crazy,
Speaker 2: they gonna be excited, they gonna be moving around, they
Speaker 2: gonna be singing, and it's gonna be a large group
Speaker 2: of people, right, But it's nothing the artists can do
Speaker 2: to control that. So I just feel like it's it's
Speaker 2: bad when they try to blame it on the artists, Right,
Speaker 2: it's nothing I can do. I'm up here performing my
Speaker 2: records and people are there, you know, engaging.
Speaker 3: To my records.
Speaker 2: It's in a like I said, it's in a it's
Speaker 2: an unfortunate situation, but that's I don't think that people
Speaker 2: should blame the artists for what's going on at their concerts.
Speaker 2: People used to follow that Michael Jackson shows right left
Speaker 2: and right right, Like nobody ever blame Mike for that.
Speaker 2: Like you blame Mike for getting up there and pausing
Speaker 2: so long that people just you know what, I.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Mike sit out here and falls you feel
Speaker 3: and people are calling out, But It's like, nobody ever
Speaker 3: blame Mike for I don't feel like we should blank
Speaker 3: Traf for that. You know, are no other artists that
Speaker 3: ever go through nothing like that.
Speaker 1: You do realize that when you reach l your level
Speaker 1: of success, they don't really compare you to other people.
Speaker 1: That compare you to your old work, he said him
Speaker 1: out four. You look at Mike, he had some great
Speaker 1: albums after Thriller, but it was all everybody always talked
Speaker 1: about Thriller, thriller, thriller, and it drove him, for lack
Speaker 1: of a better word, crazy because he was trying to
Speaker 1: reach that level of success again and he didn't realize.
Speaker 1: I never knew that that was a once in a
Speaker 1: lifetime Do you like you have? I mean, when you
Speaker 1: do thirty million, you do fifty million albums, and then
Speaker 1: your next album comes out and you do thirteen million,
Speaker 1: You're like, man, I'm a failure. But do you realize
Speaker 1: what thirteen.
Speaker 3: Million albums are, right, which is just hit fifty?
Speaker 1: So you and your old work they like, man, queez,
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing good, But that old album man,
Speaker 1: that man, you know when he came back, when he
Speaker 1: came out, he was hard. Do you worry about that.
Speaker 2: No, and you know, it's so crazy. I see it
Speaker 2: a lot now. I see people saying, like, man, I
Speaker 2: miss that mood, jack Quis.
Speaker 3: I missed that. I missed that forty two seventy five Jackquise.
Speaker 3: But I was thinking, like I listened to my whole catalog,
Speaker 3: not not even the whole catalog.
Speaker 2: I listened like five hours on my catalog driving from
Speaker 2: San Francisco to La yesterday, and I was listening to
Speaker 2: it through and I was just like, nothing's changed, right,
Speaker 2: I was like, it's elevated, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think what's happened was it was it's me as
Speaker 2: a person, That's what I think. I think that when
Speaker 2: I s when I made the King of R and
Speaker 2: B statement, right, I think that just turned everybody, right.
Speaker 2: I think it just made everybody like, let's figure out
Speaker 2: something to say about him, right cause it's hard to
Speaker 2: get to 'em. So let's figure out what can we
Speaker 2: say to make him feel some type of way. You
Speaker 2: can't say nothing, but let's just try everything, right, Like,
Speaker 2: now let's try to say.
Speaker 3: Like he need to sound like his ocds. They try
Speaker 3: to do that to jay Z, right, But whole said
Speaker 3: you want the old whole by my old album, like
Speaker 3: I got a old alb. You know, niggas want to
Speaker 3: owe me boy the old album.
Speaker 1: Do Y have you studied old legends and try to
Speaker 1: figure out what they did to remain on top?
Speaker 3: Most definitely, I'm a student of the game. I know them,
Speaker 3: I know them. I know the number one thing you can.
Speaker 2: Do is like take care of yourself, take care of
Speaker 2: your mental you know, and just evolving as an artist,
Speaker 2: keeping a keeping the illusion alive. I feel like as
Speaker 2: a artist, you gotta keep an illusion. You can't never
Speaker 2: let people get you comfortable, can't never let people know
Speaker 2: they know you too much. You know, certain people you can,
Speaker 2: but I mean, like like everybody that's on the other
Speaker 2: side of the curtain, right, you know, you can't really
Speaker 2: give 'em too much or they starting to feel like
Speaker 2: they know you. And once people feel like they starting
Speaker 2: to know you, I feel like you're worth going down, right,
Speaker 2: So I try to I try my best to just
Speaker 2: keep my illusion up.
Speaker 3: I try to switch it up so much, like I
Speaker 3: just have my haird like short, you know, I just
Speaker 3: had it short.
Speaker 2: Just trying to do something different from my fans to
Speaker 2: keep 'em intrigued and to keep 'em excited. I feel like,
Speaker 2: as a artist, you gotta just always switch it up.
Speaker 2: You gotta always just keep the fans excited, keep the
Speaker 2: people talking. You gotta it's so much you gotta do.
Speaker 2: It's more than music. I tell everybody, like to be
Speaker 2: a superstar, I believe it's more than just music.
Speaker 1: Elimate when you guys gonna hop back on the track.
Speaker 1: There was a situation that transpire.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, I just seen that a
Speaker 3: Rock Nation brunch. We spoke, I said, what's the elemation?
Speaker 1: Said, hey Jack, please that that ain't no that I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's.
Speaker 2: See how best friend used to run with me, right
Speaker 2: when I used to go out the country. Right her
Speaker 2: best friend Beyonka, I'm calling names you be her best
Speaker 2: friend used to run with me. How that that that
Speaker 2: works close with us. So whenever I would go out
Speaker 2: there for my run, she would come with me, you know,
Speaker 2: help me, assist me, do d do do different things.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So when the whole thing happened with Trip, it was
Speaker 2: just crazy because it's like it started off as a
Speaker 2: thing where I told Elam like I'm finna remix the song, and.
Speaker 3: She was with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you know what you gotta do. If you
Speaker 1: remix somebody's song.
Speaker 2: No, un listen, you ain't got a clear nothing. You
Speaker 2: ain't got a clear nothing. You gotta go no clearances
Speaker 2: if you're not selling it. I wasn't selling it, cause
Speaker 2: when you selling it, they call it monetizing. Yeah, when
Speaker 2: you monetize off a record, you're making money, right. I
Speaker 2: wasn't monetizing off.
Speaker 3: For the trick record.
Speaker 2: Now, mind you, i'm'a book. I'm'a get booked for shows, right.
Speaker 2: We all gonna get book for shows. But this is
Speaker 2: a it's like a mixtape jacket for beats. I jacked
Speaker 2: up beat and I made a I made the song.
Speaker 2: I made my own verst to your record, right. I
Speaker 2: kept some of the catuses the same and switched the
Speaker 2: lyrics and did my thing. That's not illegal, right way.
Speaker 2: Ain't used to do it. Every other artist do it?
Speaker 2: Think about it?
Speaker 3: Why she got a hit record right now on the radio?
Speaker 2: All alight?
Speaker 3: Reallyga one? It's a it's a hit right every time
Speaker 3: y'all clear do it. It's a problem. It was a
Speaker 3: problem with them LA.
Speaker 2: They started hating from that when I pulled up the
Speaker 2: record when I posted it on Instagram, she put the
Speaker 2: fire emotions all under it, like this crazy.
Speaker 1: Right, but you thought you was making some money off
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: T Pain came out and said that I was monetizing
Speaker 2: off for the record. So once he came out it
Speaker 2: said that I was monetizing off for a record publicly,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the industry and of course guys that
Speaker 2: she's around that has real knowledge of the game probably
Speaker 2: got to her and was like, this ain't right, right,
Speaker 2: which I feel like, And I believe that at that
Speaker 2: moment we shoulda came together and they should have put
Speaker 2: me on a remix for real, and we shoulda took
Speaker 2: it up through that, right. I believe that would have
Speaker 2: been crazy. Me and DJ Muster talking about doing some work. Now,
Speaker 2: you know, we trying to get to the point of
Speaker 2: me and Lama actually on a record together.
Speaker 3: Right, So I'm cool with DJ Muster. Yeah, I'm cool
Speaker 3: with DJ Muster.
Speaker 2: We went through whatever we went through behind all that,
Speaker 2: but now we're cool, So I feel good about that.
Speaker 2: So I feel like, looking towards the future, the fans
Speaker 2: could expect a sung from us Man, right, Yeah, uh,
Speaker 2: I saw t Pain.
Speaker 1: I he did a song. T Pain can really sing.
Speaker 1: I mean he could really sing with id attle too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that my boy.
Speaker 3: He was on my mixtapes like it's my boy.
Speaker 1: I mean, no d the Pain can sing.
Speaker 3: Saying on with Pain I wrote with ruh.
Speaker 1: So, so what what are your thoughts on OTTO two?
Speaker 3: My thoughts on Auto too is everybody has it on
Speaker 3: in the studio.
Speaker 2: It's just about what lever you have it at, right
Speaker 2: cause Atto two is really put there to keep you
Speaker 2: on tune of the kid the song, right, So if
Speaker 2: you singing out of kid, it just to keep you up.
Speaker 3: Now, mind you you can have autotorna ottotoone. I still
Speaker 3: hit the wrong note.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna just make you be able to sing, right,
Speaker 2: but if you put it to a certain level, you
Speaker 2: will be able to sing the level. T Pain got
Speaker 2: it that he wanted to do that, right, cause you
Speaker 2: could if you could really sing, you could hear through
Speaker 2: T Paint, attotune and no Life a record really sing
Speaker 2: for it right, like he just really playing with it, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's just different levels
Speaker 2: to the autotoe. You can have it on S forty.
Speaker 2: You can have it on twenty ten or whatever you
Speaker 2: wanted to.
Speaker 1: So alright, man, I man may go in the studio
Speaker 1: and hit me and do a little up there.
Speaker 3: Don't try to hit that stage.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think so you are you? You a
Speaker 1: big sports fan? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: Who's your team?
Speaker 3: What's what team? Up?
Speaker 1: Football? Don't you say them dirty birds?
Speaker 2: What I'm saying now, I gotta tell you I'm a
Speaker 2: dirty bird fan just cause for city. But I follow
Speaker 2: players though.
Speaker 1: Okay, who your favorite player?
Speaker 2: Favorite player right now in the NFL and Kyle Pitts
Speaker 2: that's my brother, you know what I'm saying. Kyle, that's
Speaker 2: my boy, but tied in from the Falcons. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: stay in the same neighborhood. But s favorite player from
Speaker 2: the NFL right now, it's probably my boy.
Speaker 3: Uh you know my boss j Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like Akston Jackson.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Of course they ain't gonna break it to mob duode.
Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy. But if somebody told him, why they
Speaker 3: they I feel like theyn't bring down. They say he
Speaker 3: getting hurt. But I'm like, you see that, I get brother,
Speaker 3: the Winny, He's still worth the winning. I ain't know
Speaker 3: he be getting hurt.
Speaker 1: You get hurt. I mean, you play that, you played
Speaker 1: the game of football, you gonna get hurt. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: what's your favorite who's your favorite player in basketball?
Speaker 3: Right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh Joe okay, yeah, Joh, give me some what advice?
Speaker 1: If you could see if y'all was sitting right here,
Speaker 1: you sitting across from it. What's so crazy?
Speaker 3: Cause older than Bruh, But I could really be like
Speaker 3: little brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you tell him?
Speaker 2: Little Bruh, you just gotta kill That's it, Like you know,
Speaker 2: we with you an'ybody gonna sit here and down you
Speaker 2: or nothing like that.
Speaker 3: That right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But you just gotta chill, like let's just get it
Speaker 2: together cause you got them m's on the line right
Speaker 2: and he got these kids looking up to you.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So I was just telling him, like, Brouh,
Speaker 3: we just gotta chill. We just gotta reroute right quick.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's it.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Uh they called Jaquez Rogers or was one
Speaker 1: of your favorite players. He was a small guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne did your height did you ever?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 1: Were you ever? Like damn man? I wish I was tall, man,
Speaker 1: I wish I was six foot tall. Bru ooh if
Speaker 1: I was six foot tall, I.
Speaker 2: Used to tell niggas that, like what like, b I
Speaker 2: was sick pe bus for real though, cause I'm like,
Speaker 2: God didn't want that to happen to y'all, boy, cause
Speaker 2: I look at me in five sick.
Speaker 3: Y'all need to be in trouble.
Speaker 2: I'm like at six foot quick, come on, bruh, like
Speaker 2: what that would imagine that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Maybe I want to hit six foot same like I
Speaker 2: could say, dress like I dressed. I'm already a problem
Speaker 2: at five six, but imagine I'm six foot boy.
Speaker 3: Of them boys in trouble, you be they in trouble now.
Speaker 1: But just imagine you be a combination of Nick Can
Speaker 1: in the future.
Speaker 3: But we probably need to be right here, YEA top
Speaker 3: sight up for real?
Speaker 1: You pray you prayed? Charles Barkley on uh uh uh
Speaker 1: on this show? What what was that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: It was good cause see I had just seen Chuck
Speaker 2: in the city right he chumped me off cause I
Speaker 2: was with uh vit the cruise right hit the crews
Speaker 2: down there bit the like Chuck.
Speaker 3: You know, Jockqueese, he was like, yeah, I know, Jock Queize.
Speaker 3: I know I was using but jacqueis, come on, man,
Speaker 3: you see him trying to do something. He was keep
Speaker 3: kicking it when he was playing with me, you know,
Speaker 3: but he was kicking it on me. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I got something. I'm'a I'm go'a wait till the perfect time,
Speaker 3: and I got I just got him on TV. So
Speaker 3: it was fun cause he had no idea. He comes
Speaker 3: back there, que What you doing there? I mean I'm chilling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you remember that? You remember that?
Speaker 3: You Okay, I'm go'a get you with this snow? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I TV.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that the uh, the viral moment the Lakers game,
Speaker 1: the national anthem? What was I mean national anthem and
Speaker 1: singing for the Lakers. I mean, everybody thinks you weren't
Speaker 1: born there With Marvin gay he might have had the best,
Speaker 1: one of the best renditions. He and Whitney Houston when
Speaker 1: she sung it at the Super Bowl. I think it
Speaker 1: was in I don't Tampa, maybe Tampa. I forget where
Speaker 1: it was. She did her adition, But Marvin Gaye's rendition.
Speaker 3: I think I YouTube he switched it up. He did he.
Speaker 1: I mean, he might be the bit real, So you
Speaker 1: ain't evention him King R and B. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let that's lie. That's something else I ain't know. I
Speaker 1: ain't know.
Speaker 3: We were going like I thought Marvin Gay would be so.
Speaker 1: He wouldever Marvin Gay was whatever whatever. You were really
Speaker 1: like that, yeah, So so what was that? I mean
Speaker 1: when you get the call and like, okay, we were
Speaker 1: like for you to perform the national landum at the
Speaker 1: Lakers game. So now what's what's because you know, eighteen
Speaker 1: thousand Lakers pack stars lined up and they're just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta nail this, dame.
Speaker 3: All I'm thinking is I'm gonna kill it.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking like man, Bron, I'm gonna be in
Speaker 2: here right Mellow because I used to be around Mellow
Speaker 2: when I was like fourteen, So like Melo gonna see
Speaker 2: me again, you know what I'm saying, Like he gonna
Speaker 2: see me on this level. So like I gotta kill it.
Speaker 2: And I felt good cause cause they gave me a
Speaker 2: sound check. M So once I did the sound check,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh it sounded like this. I'm'a i'm'a do
Speaker 2: my song. Once I walked in, they was doing they
Speaker 2: stretch Westbrook savor. I g I got that from all
Speaker 2: the guys right talking to Melow for me, I'm like
Speaker 2: my confidence went up there in the White House.
Speaker 3: My boy came in on Queen wa ain't tell me
Speaker 3: where is da da da Da? I was just like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, it feel like we in the crib.
Speaker 2: I'm finna kill this like this ain't no pressure like
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna beat the boys, right, It
Speaker 2: ain't nothing you feel.
Speaker 3: I got up there, did my thing and we went
Speaker 3: voul you did.
Speaker 1: I'm look, I'm looking at your business. The uh uh,
Speaker 1: your taple bar. It's not really that. You got hookah wine, dakeries,
Speaker 1: salmon bites, stripping grits, brunt. You play R and B
Speaker 1: music in the background. Bruh, you gotta you got a spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want you to come to Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm'a come. I'm for real. I'm'a hold you to it. Now.
Speaker 1: What next time you gonna what? Next time? You gonna
Speaker 1: be a name? I been, i'm'a get you, i'm'a get
Speaker 1: you in for I beat it. I swing through.
Speaker 3: I'm for real.
Speaker 1: I'm for real too. Yeah, I ain't got no money
Speaker 1: on it though, i'ma leave my credit card home.
Speaker 3: Look, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: When I was your I I I do right by
Speaker 1: my bill. I do right. Yeah, I mean y And
Speaker 1: you said it was a it. It meant a lot
Speaker 1: to you to be a black man and to be
Speaker 1: to establish a business in your community that employ other blacks.
Speaker 1: Growing up, did you like, Mad, I wanna make it
Speaker 1: to be a have to be in a situation where
Speaker 1: I can give back.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I always wanted to give back. You know.
Speaker 2: I was always around other guys that was already giving
Speaker 2: back to the community, right. I was already around the
Speaker 2: bosses that had the barber shops, that was investing into
Speaker 2: the community, that was giving people opportunities. So I already
Speaker 2: knew it was gonna be and me to do it.
Speaker 2: I knew I was the next one up. I knew, like, man,
Speaker 2: when I get my chance, i'm'a do it. And my
Speaker 2: grandmother was big on that. My grandmother used to give
Speaker 2: everybody opportunity. So I'm like, you know, i'm'a following these
Speaker 2: footsteps and give everybody an opportunity. And that's exactly what
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Bruh. That was I'm telling uh, Mad, we didn't ain't
Speaker 1: that thing flew by? Yeah, I appreciate you stopping by
Speaker 1: taking time out of your business schedules. Sit down and
Speaker 1: give me sixty five seventy minutes of your time. I
Speaker 1: know you're very busy, so stop you. Thank you for
Speaker 1: stopping by. Club Shasha talk about tell us about the album.
Speaker 2: Sincerely for You out right Now executive reduced by Future.
Speaker 2: Like we talked about, it's my third album. The new
Speaker 2: single Sincerely for You, I mean the new single when
Speaker 2: You Bad like That. It's out right now. Tell me
Speaker 2: it's over feature in Summer Walker and Black. It's probably
Speaker 2: gonna be the next single that they could be looking
Speaker 2: out for be looking out me and some uh looking
Speaker 2: out for me in some movies. This year, more TV,
Speaker 2: more radio, my label. I got a lot of artists
Speaker 2: on the way and just more greatness for me.
Speaker 3: Tell us about the restaurant, the Wine and Tapas Lounge
Speaker 3: just Stone Crest.
Speaker 2: If you ever in Atlanta, Georgia on the East Side
Speaker 2: in the Stone Crest area, make sure y'all pull up
Speaker 2: to the.
Speaker 3: Wine and Tapas loungers. We got wine and tampas, but
Speaker 3: we also got a little side. Man. You you can
Speaker 3: get the shrimp and gris. The Salven advice. You can
Speaker 3: get whatever you want.
Speaker 1: From the wine topics. Yeah, shrimp and gris in the city.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, in the south, in the city.
Speaker 1: No for most definite again bruh all love, continue success.
Speaker 4: All my life running, all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pay
Speaker 4: the price, and want to slice.
Speaker 1: Got to brow the dice.
Speaker 3: That's why, all my life I've been grinding all my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all my life, grinding, all.
Speaker 4: My life, sacrifice, hustle, pay the price, and want to slice.
Speaker 4: Got to brow the dice this way, all my life,
Speaker 4: I've been grinding all my life.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.