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Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders. I am Tom Pelicero. We've

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Speaker 1: got a jam packed Friday show for you. One might

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Speaker 1: even call it a giant show because we got kvon Thibodeau,

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Speaker 1: the Giants pass Rusher. He is going to join us.

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Speaker 1: How does New York bounce back in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 1: What kind of tips has he been getting from Lawrence Taylor?

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Speaker 1: KT's got answers for us in just a little bit. Also,

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning going one on one with our guy rht

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Speaker 1: lewis down at the Manning Passing Academy. And Adam Rank

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Speaker 1: is going to be here one of our fantasy gurus.

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Speaker 2: He's got.

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Speaker 1: I am told some names that potentially should be the

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Speaker 1: number one overall picking your fantasy draft.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna blow your mind.

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Speaker 1: I am ready to have my mind blown, and I

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Speaker 1: better be, because football is closer than you think. Sixty

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Speaker 1: nine days from tonight. It's those guys, the Chiefs, the Rave,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes coming off of a second consecutive Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: trying to kick off a three peat. And Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: the raining NFL MVP, hoping the Ravens can break through

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. But first he's got to get

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Speaker 1: through a rough and tumble AFC North Division.

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Speaker 2: Where are that guy's ready to throw some haymakers.

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Speaker 1: It's Russell Wilson, literally in the ring getting himself back.

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Speaker 1: He said to some of the things that he did

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Speaker 1: when he had his best seasons in his Seattle days.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 1: It's Russell Wilson, and it's this time of year. Every

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Speaker 1: move he makes, every breath he takes, We'll be watching

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Speaker 1: him on his social media. I know our guy Adam

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Speaker 1: Rake certainly is keeping an eye on Russ, keeping an

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Speaker 1: eye on the entire NFL. You can read his team

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Speaker 1: by team, state of the team breakdowns, nfl dot Com,

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Speaker 1: slash rank and rank you tackled over the past several days.

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Speaker 1: Here the AFC North, I think it is one of

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Speaker 1: the most fascinating divisions. If you tell me top to

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Speaker 1: a bout of which division does every matchup have some intrigue?

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Speaker 1: I'd put the AFC North certainly among the top divisions overall.

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Speaker 1: But tell me about the Steelers. We know Russ says

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Speaker 1: that he has revived in every way. What does it

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Speaker 1: mean to you, especially knowing that that quarterback you cheer

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Speaker 1: for with your Bears for the past several years.

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Speaker 2: Is out there now too.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's Yeahustin Field is there. But I think this

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Speaker 3: is all about Russell Wilson now currently. He comes into

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh as the number one guy, and I think this

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Speaker 3: is a huge opportunity for him.

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Speaker 2: What you want to do is let him cook.

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Speaker 3: That's the saying, right, But it's like the last two

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Speaker 3: hired Gordon Ramsey and he doesn't get the yell at

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Speaker 3: people like.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not doing things correctly.

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Speaker 3: But with Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh, they're going to have

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Speaker 3: a strong defense, much like his days in Seattle, will

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Speaker 3: probably run a lot of play action. Arthur Smith, who's

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Speaker 3: now the offensive coordinator fore the Pittsburgh Steelers, ran a

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Speaker 2: We expect Russell Wilson to get back to that.

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Speaker 3: He has a passer over one hundred when it comes

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Speaker 3: to play action, and I think that's what they're going

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing too.

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Speaker 3: Last season, as bad as he thought as it was

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Speaker 3: for Russell Wilson, he had twenty six touchdown passes. The

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Speaker 3: thing for the Steelers. But I think it's also big

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Speaker 3: for Mike Tomlin. You know, we hear about this all

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Speaker 3: the time. Mike Tomlin never had a losing season, which

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Speaker 3: is fine, but this is Pittsburgh. This is not some

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Speaker 3: this isn't Carolina. This is Pittsburgh. You gotta go out

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Speaker 3: there and win championships.

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Speaker 2: And it reminds me.

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Speaker 3: Now, Tom, I know you're a young man, but there

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Speaker 3: was a guy in Dallas by the name of Tom Landry.

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Speaker 2: Had to lose, And you're like, that's great.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't win super Bowls and Mike Tomlin's got to

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Speaker 3: get back to winning super Bowls the Steelers and as

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Speaker 3: a matter of fact, haven't won a playoff game since

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. You know what momentous thing happened in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: A playoff game. That does feel like a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Now Tom Delong's back, they're on tour again, obviously even

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Speaker 1: quarterback intrigue, certainly in Pittsburgh, it's about the revival of

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Speaker 1: In Cleveland, it's about what Deshaun Watson are we going

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Speaker 2: Of the year.

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Speaker 1: What Deshaun Watson are we going to get? And how

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Speaker 1: does that impact the team that, somehow, with four different

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Speaker 3: Rank that's the big thing because Joe Flacco played so

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Speaker 3: maybe we should just stick with Joe Flacco. They've found

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson, he has not played more than six games

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson was five and one as a started for

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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. As great of a story as it

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Speaker 3: was for Joe Flacco to come out here, like Shane

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Speaker 2: And he played well.

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Speaker 3: But Deshaun Watson was playing very well, and to me,

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Speaker 2: Is actually a good team.

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Speaker 3: And thankfully David and Joko and I have squashed our

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good team.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to prove it, and I think

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Speaker 3: they will get back to the playoffs. But the key

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Speaker 3: this year they got to win some playoff games.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty wild when you think back, because remember Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson didn't play at all in twenty twenty one. Over

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Speaker 1: the past three seasons, combined twelve starts fourteen touchdown passes.

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Speaker 1: They add Derrick Henry. Lamar is back, those young receivers

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Speaker 3: I think Derrick Henry was the most inevitable piece in

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Speaker 3: It reminds me of when Shaq joined the Lakers. He

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson near unanimous MVP. The accolades are there. You

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Speaker 2: Be the missing piece.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Bengals also have at times played without their

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Speaker 3: I think that Joe Burrow has shown that he can

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Speaker 3: but still the Bengals have shown the moxie and even

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Speaker 1: Much like Dave Grohld, the Bengals just seem to stick around.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere you stick around too, because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell us in just a short period of time here

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Speaker 1: some of the surprise names you think should be in

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Speaker 2: Could it be a total shocker? Like, oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The new quarterback of the Washington Commanders, Jade Daniels. He's

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Speaker 1: the spring. Austin Eckler was right here on the Insiders

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Speaker 1: a couple of nights ago was actually shooting me down saying, no,

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Speaker 1: don't just talk about Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: I was on a Tella TM.

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Speaker 1: He goes, We've got an absolute stud in Jane Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Is that enough for the Commanders to be a surprise

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Speaker 1: in a division that has been ruled in the past

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Speaker 1: couple of years by the Eagles and the Cowboys. For

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Speaker 1: Jane Slater did There's a lot of things that are

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Speaker 1: rare about the situation in Dallas, the quarterback and the

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Speaker 1: it is how often do you have a head coach

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Speaker 1: in the division who just came for your team like

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn now going to Washington, what are your expectations

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Speaker 1: and how does this all fit into the broader tapestry

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Speaker 1: of how the nfc S plays out in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be such a fascinating division to keep

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Speaker 5: an eye on this year. Things I think are heating up,

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Speaker 5: not dissimilar from the four hundred and forty degree curling

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Speaker 1: The Manning family, Archie, Peyton, and Eli out at Nichols

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Speaker 6: Are you twenty eighth Manning Passing Academy here? But I

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Speaker 8: So thank you Peyton.

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Speaker 7: You know you have so many assortments of them that

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Speaker 6: As you can see here with this quality. But on

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Speaker 6: Teach them a little football, right, not just quarterback skills

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Speaker 8: Like now there's none of those guys.

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Speaker 6: I'd tell you the thing that I'm most excited about

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Speaker 8: To get the clt in the flesh.

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Speaker 2: That's right, look at this guy. All right, there we go.

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Speaker 8: That's it.

442
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Speaker 2: That's us a selfie interview. I want thanks, thank you.

443
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Speaker 1: Read best selfie stick interview we've ever had on The

444
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Speaker 1: Insiders also the only one, but who's counting That guy

445
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Speaker 1: has me the selfie stick. He's had cameras everywhere. What

446
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Speaker 1: do we expect on Hard Knocks? Well lost Cavon Thibodeau

447
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Speaker 1: next on The Insiders, Tom Pellicero joined by a guy

448
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Speaker 1: I am certain is going to be one of the

449
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Speaker 1: stars of that new edition of the Hard Knocks franchise

450
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Speaker 1: on HBO. Cavon Thibodeau is with us. Kat, thanks lot

451
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Speaker 1: for being here. Tell me what are we going to see?

452
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Speaker 1: They've already shot this through the course of the off season.

453
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Speaker 1: What are we going to get starting July second?

454
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Speaker 9: Tom, first of all, thanks for having me. But when

455
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Speaker 9: I tell you, I have no clue. Like those cam

456
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Speaker 9: we're hidden. I know they probably knew in the back

457
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Speaker 9: office what was being recorded, but as far as the

458
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 9: players and the team, we had no clue. So I'm

459
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Speaker 9: excited to see it, just as everyone else.

460
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Speaker 1: I'll be really interested to see how certain personalities play

461
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Speaker 1: on that show. And besides you, obviously you're you're a

462
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 1: bright flower. You're going to brighten all our lives here.

463
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Speaker 1: I want to see if we get any different side

464
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Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones, because I've seen Daniel joneses got the beard.

465
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Speaker 1: Now he's maybe been a slightly more edgy for him

466
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Speaker 1: and his press coaches. Are we are we getting a

467
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Speaker 1: little bit different Daniel Jones, not just on this show,

468
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Speaker 1: but maybe heading into twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Probably not. He cut the beard off. He had a

470
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Speaker 4: for a while, He had a for a while, he

471
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Speaker 4: was on the edge.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, he cut it back off. And I think

473
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Speaker 9: he's still going to be, you know, the stand up

474
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Speaker 9: man that he is. He's been leading this he's been

475
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Speaker 9: a little more vocal, but I don't know if he'll

476
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Speaker 9: do it for TV. I think he's more, you know,

477
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Speaker 9: of a locker room guy.

478
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Speaker 1: So you're out there in LA right now for the

479
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Speaker 1: NFL's Social and Branding Workshop. Just tell me about this program.

480
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Speaker 1: You've been hyper involved in this stuff since going back

481
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Speaker 1: to college, but what sort of stuff are you doing

482
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Speaker 1: and learning out there?

483
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Speaker 9: First of all, the NFL does a great job, you know,

484
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Speaker 9: obviously from where it used to be to now and

485
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Speaker 9: you know, giving guys tools and giving them resources to

486
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Speaker 9: build their life outside of sports.

487
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Speaker 4: So it's been great being here. They brought in.

488
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Speaker 9: A lot of CEOs, They brought in a lot of

489
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Speaker 9: people from different companies that are just helping us and

490
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Speaker 9: giving us resources to just continue to you know, build

491
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Speaker 9: our resumes off the field. It's been great so far,

492
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Speaker 9: you know, just connecting with the different brands and the

493
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Speaker 9: different companies that have been here.

494
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Speaker 1: It feels like yesterday you and I did a zoom

495
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Speaker 1: before the draft, just kind of talking about what to expect,

496
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Speaker 1: the process that was ahead, the media components of things.

497
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Speaker 1: If you think back to that guy coming into the

498
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Speaker 1: NFL a couple of years ago, what have you learned

499
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Speaker 1: as a person and a player that.

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Speaker 2: Have kind of made you into one yard right now?

501
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Speaker 9: Definitely a lot more mature than I was before. You know,

502
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Speaker 9: it takes time. You know, you don't know what you

503
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Speaker 9: don't know right So being in the league, it's been great.

504
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Speaker 9: A few learning curves, which is always great, but things

505
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 9: have been going in the right direction. You know, I'm

506
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Speaker 9: excited for this season and I know that as I

507
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Speaker 9: continue to go through my career, I'm just going to

508
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Speaker 9: get smarter and I'm just going to, you know, learn

509
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Speaker 9: how to apply those smarts even more.

510
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Speaker 2: I love that your pass rusher for the Giants, which

511
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Speaker 2: has this amazing history of pass rushers. You were around

512
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Speaker 2: some of those guys at the recent Giants Legends event.

513
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Speaker 2: I think you talked to Lawrence Taylor there. What kind

514
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Speaker 2: of knowledge advice is a guy like that, the greatest

515
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Speaker 2: defensive player of all time impartying on you?

516
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Speaker 4: You know what? I think it's funny.

517
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Speaker 9: You know, you go into these conversations and you're always

518
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Speaker 9: looking for something, right, if they're a legend, You're like,

519
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Speaker 9: what did you do?

520
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Speaker 4: What was the secret sauce? And I think it was funny.

521
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Speaker 9: Lt He looked at me crazy when I said, I said,

522
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Speaker 9: what's the secret sauce? And he's like, now you know,

523
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Speaker 9: damn well, there ain't no secret sauce. And it's just

524
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Speaker 9: funny thinking that, like, when you make it to this level,

525
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Speaker 9: you make it on the same things that you're taught

526
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Speaker 9: as a kid. You know, hard work, integrity, dedication, and

527
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Speaker 9: there's nothing you know. All his difference is you got

528
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Speaker 9: to be a little bit more dedicated and work a

529
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Speaker 9: little bit harder. But other than that, we have the tools,

530
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Speaker 9: you know, as athletes, you just got to continue to

531
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Speaker 9: apply him and do your best.

532
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Speaker 1: Have you ever gone back and dug into LT tape

533
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Speaker 1: number one? Half the stuff he's doing, half the tackles

534
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Speaker 1: and sacks you can't do anymore.

535
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Speaker 2: You can't hit quarterbacks like that.

536
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Speaker 1: I'm always struck though, when I see replays LE games

537
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Speaker 1: like on an NFL network, the violence and speed with

538
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Speaker 1: which he seemed to play on every single snap, It's

539
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Speaker 1: just it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's the only real thing that surprises

541
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Speaker 9: or I could say excites legends. Right, they never really

542
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Speaker 9: care about your goals, They never really care about your stats.

543
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Speaker 9: It's all about how you play the game. And I

544
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Speaker 9: think that's where you know, the respect for the game

545
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 9: comes in. Right, So when you talk to a dude

546
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Speaker 9: like LT, all he wants to know is are you

547
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Speaker 9: going to give it you all one hundred percent of

548
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Speaker 9: the time? And even for me, I think that's the

549
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Speaker 9: maturity level where you take that next step in your

550
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Speaker 9: career where you know you play like an LT like

551
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Speaker 9: Michael Strahan, like you know, many legends out of before me.

552
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Speaker 2: You said, do you want to go after straight hand Sackrucker.

553
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Speaker 1: That's a whole lot of sacks. You got to get

554
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Speaker 1: to do that in a single season. How do you

555
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Speaker 1: put together that type of year twenty twenty four? How

556
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Speaker 1: do you put yourself in that mindset to be able

557
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Speaker 1: to go out and produce at that type of level effort.

558
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Speaker 9: You know, there's a video of LT he said, we

559
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 9: got to go out there and play like some crazy dogs.

560
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Speaker 9: So I think that's the journey, and I think can

561
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Speaker 9: you do it every play for seventeen weeks?

562
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Speaker 4: And that's the mission.

563
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Speaker 1: You saw in that Hard Knocks preview the phone calls

564
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Speaker 1: led to the Brian burnstrade. When you know a guy

565
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Speaker 1: like that is coming in to tag team it with you,

566
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Speaker 1: up from what was your reaction to what's it been like.

567
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Speaker 2: Here just in this early portion of the offseason.

568
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Speaker 9: It's exciting, man, it's exciting. Me and Brian we have

569
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Speaker 9: a similar body type, we got a similar style of play,

570
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Speaker 9: but he's a little bit different. You know, He's faster,

571
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Speaker 9: he's quicker, he's obviously farther in his career than I am.

572
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Speaker 9: So there's a lot of gems he's been giving me,

573
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Speaker 9: and he's been able to help up my game a

574
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Speaker 9: little bit, and I've been, you know, competing with him,

575
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Speaker 9: giving him a few things that I know. It's been

576
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Speaker 9: great so far. So I'm excited to see, you know,

577
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Speaker 9: what's all to come from that.

578
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Speaker 2: I'm not a hot take guy, Cavon.

579
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Speaker 1: I'm not big on giving crazy opinions on TV or

580
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Speaker 1: on social media, but I gave one probably the most

581
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Speaker 1: controversial thing I've tweeted in a long time. It's when

582
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Speaker 1: the new Century Red throwback uniforms were announced. I said,

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Speaker 1: these are one of the best uniforms that I've seen,

584
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Speaker 1: the throwback alternate jerseys this offseason, and I got slaughtered

585
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Speaker 1: on social media unlike anything I've ever seen. When you

586
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Speaker 1: first got to look at them, they're different. Now I'm

587
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Speaker 1: a big tan pants guy, but you looked at that

588
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: Montreal Canadians type jersey and everything.

589
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Speaker 2: What was your reaction to these unis?

590
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Speaker 9: So I'll be honest, no uniforms look good on media day,

591
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Speaker 9: right because we're not actually fully you know, suited. We

592
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Speaker 9: don't have the tape, we don't have you know, the braces,

593
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Speaker 9: we don't have all the good stuff.

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Speaker 4: That goes with it.

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Speaker 9: So I wasn't as excited as I am now, you know,

596
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Speaker 9: after seeing people have been putting edits and people have

597
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Speaker 9: been putting, you know, different things on it on social

598
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Speaker 9: media with how it.

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Speaker 4: Will look once we plan it. But I'm excited.

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Speaker 9: Think it's gonna look good. I think it's gonna look

601
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Speaker 9: good on TV. And I think that hopefully that they

602
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Speaker 9: sell those jerseys. I think they are, but I think

603
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Speaker 9: it's gonna be really exciting for the fans.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. I'd never thought about that. In

605
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Speaker 1: those photos. There's zero swag on anybody. There's not a

606
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Speaker 1: risk Dan, there's not a piece of tape. You can't

607
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Speaker 1: do that you can't like, oh hey, I need to

608
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Speaker 1: get the full garb going.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 9: I think some people have shorts under their pants, like

611
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Speaker 9: I don't even know, you know, if you look close,

612
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Speaker 9: like we got on sneakers, you know, some.

613
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Speaker 4: People don't even have the right socks on underneath.

614
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Speaker 9: Like it's crazy, But I think it's gonna look good.

615
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones looks like he could wear that Tibet Like

616
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Speaker 1: those look like pajamas right there.

617
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Speaker 2: There is not a pad anywhere insight. You're also wearing

618
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Speaker 2: a shirt.

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Speaker 1: You're wearing a shirt for the Dream Foundation, which I

620
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Speaker 1: know you founded last year. Tell me about the work

621
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Speaker 1: that you're doing there.

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Speaker 9: So now we're on our third year in a Dream Foundation.

623
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Speaker 9: It's been great.

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Speaker 4: You know.

625
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Speaker 9: We focus on education and serving under underserved youth. So

626
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Speaker 9: basically we give resources to children in inner cities. Started

627
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Speaker 9: with Los Angeles and now we're out in New Jersey,

628
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Speaker 9: in New York and we're basically just giving the resources,

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Speaker 9: helping the mentors, given the education, and we're creating a

630
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Speaker 9: movement right, the movement and giving back to our children

631
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Speaker 9: because there's the future right when you look at what

632
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Speaker 9: happened with COVID. We took a lot of our kids

633
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Speaker 9: out of school and they fell behind. So now in

634
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Speaker 9: the public schools and in the inner cities, kids are

635
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 9: struggling to catch up and meet their you know great

636
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Speaker 9: or their curriculum. So we've stepped in and we've helped

637
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Speaker 9: mitigate that with bringing in tutoring programs and having you

638
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 9: know great partners come in and teach financial health and

639
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 9: this being the full house of using sports as the

640
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Speaker 9: carrot on the stick for the kids, but then also

641
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Speaker 9: helping the parents be better mentors and help them understand

642
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 9: how their kids need to be mentored. And also you know,

643
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 9: working with the different schools and helping them, you know,

644
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Speaker 9: teach the curriculum that they are.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome stuff.

646
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Speaker 1: I had to get that plug in for you there, Katie,

647
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: spending for you before before we let you go. Last

648
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: season went sideways for a whole bunch of reasons, injuries

649
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: and otherwise. This is going to be a different Giants

650
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: team in twenty twenty four, Week one at home against

651
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Speaker 1: the Vikings.

652
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Speaker 2: You know that stadium is going to be rocking.

653
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Speaker 1: What kind of statement do you hope this Giants team

654
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Speaker 1: can make out.

655
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Speaker 9: Of the gate resiliency, physicality, speed. I mean, we're going

656
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Speaker 9: to play with all the things that we played in

657
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Speaker 9: and back in the day. This is the one hundredth

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Speaker 9: year anniversary of the Giants, so hopefully we can let

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Speaker 9: those superpowers from our ancestors come and take over.

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Speaker 1: You're the best, Katie. You hope you get a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a break here in the coming weeks. I'll

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Speaker 1: see out there in East Ruthford. Not too long, no breaks.

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Speaker 1: It's time to work, Tom. I appreciate you. Sixty nine

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Speaker 1: days until kickoff of the NFL season, sixty eight days

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Speaker 1: to conduct your fantasy draft.

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffer will probably go number one, but should he?

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Speaker 2: Adam Rick at some other ideas.

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Speaker 10: Next to the.

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Speaker 2: Left is just dropping back onto the maybe and throws

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Speaker 2: a farst our cupoll My Covene touchdown, Tampa Bay. Farda

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Speaker 2: Cannons Bucks take a nine to nothing least first down

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Speaker 2: from the twenty two. Maybe you'll post on the ends.

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Speaker 2: I don't cop pop My Covins touchdown, Tampa Bay. Heavens

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Speaker 2: has two today every Christmas, Michael.

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Speaker 1: That connection was a big role in Tampa's success last year.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pillar. Sara joined now

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Speaker 1: by Sarah Walsh down there in Florida.

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Speaker 4: Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Quite the journey for Baker Mayfield from Cleveland to Carolina

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Speaker 1: to La to Tampa has that big year. He gets

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Speaker 1: his three year, one hundred million dollars contract extension. What's

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Speaker 1: next and how does he continue the momentum that finally

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Speaker 1: he was able to build in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 11: Well, sort of exactly what you just said there, Tom

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Speaker 11: is how Baker is looking at things this year.

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Speaker 2: There mantra is what can.

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Speaker 11: We do to sustain that success that you just saw

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Speaker 11: a season ago, and he said, so much of this

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Speaker 11: offseason has been for him about getting on the same

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Speaker 11: page with their new offensive coordinator, Liam Cohen. Cohen is

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Speaker 11: expected to place a lot more responsibility on Baker's shoulders.

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Speaker 11: He's now very secure in Tampa as a starter now

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Speaker 11: with the big new contract you just mentioned. He said,

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Speaker 11: some of that means for Baker when you talk about

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Speaker 11: the next step, it's flipping protections, it's putting his guys

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Speaker 11: in the right position, and so much of that what

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Speaker 11: they're trying to implement, he says, is made easier by

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Speaker 11: the fact that the defense that this Buccaneers team goes

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Speaker 11: against in practice.

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Speaker 2: Cohen told me, you go against a group like Vitaveya.

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Speaker 2: This Buccaneers offense, he.

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Speaker 11: Says, never see stationary and he believes that that's going

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Speaker 11: to help Baker come next season. Some of the other

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Speaker 11: little things that they're working on, he said, there will

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Speaker 11: be an emphasis on the fifteen scripted plays to start games,

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Speaker 11: because they know that this Buccaneers team wants to start

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Speaker 11: games a lot faster than they did as season ago,

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Speaker 11: because while they often had results they like, the game's

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Speaker 11: never really started the way they wanted to. So it's

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Speaker 11: fine tuning some of those little things and it's all

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Speaker 11: just really about now at this point with the contracted place,

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Speaker 11: the next step for Baker and this.

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Speaker 2: Offense tom.

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Speaker 1: Tons of coaching changes and other changes around the NFC

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Speaker 1: South in glinding course, Dave Canalis now going to Carolina

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Speaker 1: as the head coach. If Tampa's going to repeat as

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Speaker 1: Division champs, what is an X factor or who potentially

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Speaker 1: could be an X factor in that success.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, let me give you a guy on the offense

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Speaker 11: at least. This is what Liam Cohen said to me.

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Speaker 11: He said, quote jmack has flashed so far. Jmack being

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Speaker 11: Jalen McMillan, the third round pick the Bucks took out

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Speaker 11: of Washington.

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Speaker 2: Said he's a true route runner.

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Speaker 11: And this is really important for the Buccaneers because they've

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Speaker 11: had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, and

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Speaker 11: then not a lot else. They really have struggled with

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Speaker 11: depth Todd Bowles at that position in particular. Todd Bowles

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Speaker 11: has said that they love McMillan's versatility, and Baker has

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Speaker 11: talked about the fact that he's got really strong hands,

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Speaker 11: he says, when he goes up to get the ball

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Speaker 11: out of the air the point of the attack, he

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Speaker 11: has just a really natural tendency which could and should

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Speaker 11: be huge for the Buccaneers. And Millan said he's used

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Speaker 11: to living up to expectations. When asked if he's ready

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Speaker 11: to jump into a pretty significant role right away, and

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Speaker 11: he said he cannot wait to show everyone next ball

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Speaker 11: what he can do.

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Speaker 1: Sarah, thank you very much, look forward to talking to

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Speaker 1: you again soon. Just sixty nine days now to kick

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Speaker 1: off of the NFL season. Jeez, I got sixty eight

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Speaker 1: days to get your fantasy draft in. Here's the top

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Speaker 1: five fantasy football player projections for twenty twenty four according

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Speaker 2: And you can sign up right now.

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Speaker 1: I checked earlier today Fantasy dot NFL dot com to

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Speaker 1: get in a league right now.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome in.

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Speaker 1: Now are fantasy expert and experts of many things. Adam

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Speaker 1: Rank here, okay, Adam, I think that usually going in

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Speaker 1: right there's the consensus one, maybe two players who is

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Speaker 1: going to go at the top of every fantasy draft.

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Speaker 2: In your mind, how many players can.

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Speaker 1: You make a reasonable case this guy maybe should go

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Speaker 1: number one overall? In fantasy I would say one, but

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Speaker 1: they on this let me say CMC and then go

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Speaker 1: to the Angels game. They're going to make me sit

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Speaker 1: here and talk about a couple more guys, which is fair.

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Speaker 1: But I think CMC is the consensus number one.

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Speaker 3: But let me give you a couple other names of

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Speaker 3: guys who could be considered the top pick if you

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Speaker 3: don't want to go with the consensus. And one of

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Speaker 3: the guys was on the screen right there, Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 3: last year, the wide receiver two in fantasy football, had

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Speaker 3: a lot of games. He had what, nine games with

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Speaker 3: at least twenty five fantasy points, which was the most

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. He had five games with at least

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Speaker 3: thirty fantasy points, rock solid option. Of course, wide receivers

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Speaker 3: perceived to be a little bit more safer, safer so

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Speaker 3: to speak, except anybody who said justin Jefferson last year

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Speaker 3: might argue, But how about with John Robinson. Now A

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Speaker 3: lot of people are looking at this because the Falcons

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Speaker 3: have been talking about using him in the same way

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Speaker 3: that the forty nine ers use CMC, which then starts

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Speaker 3: leading me down the wormhole of the Peter Griffin of like, listen,

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Speaker 3: we could get a boat or get a mystery box,

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Speaker 3: which could be a boat. I guess, like, why wouldn't

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Speaker 3: you just take CMC. But Robinson is gonna be in

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Speaker 3: a very good offensive. Obviously, they added Kirk Cousins this offseason,

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Speaker 3: so he's a good pick. Bryce Hall was amazing last year.

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Speaker 3: He scored close to three hundred Fantasy points.

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Speaker 2: He was the RB two. The thing is he had

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Speaker 2: one goal line rush. He did all of that with

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Speaker 2: getting no opportunities near the goal line.

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Speaker 3: So if he gets a chance in New York and

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Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers, they should be much better. I really

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Speaker 3: like Bryce Hall. And finally, you know what, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go with Saquon Barkley. I think Saquon Barkley like he

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Speaker 3: bounces back and what's the big knock? Everybody's gonna be

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Speaker 3: like he gets hurt all the time, That's exactly what

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Speaker 3: you said about CMC back in the day, and then

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Speaker 3: he goes to San Francisco never gets injured. I think

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Speaker 3: that once these guys leave these like bottom dweller franchises

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Speaker 3: and get up to like Philadelphia or places like that,

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Speaker 3: they're like, oh, I'm not as hurt as I used

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Speaker 3: to be and you know what, they can't do the

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Speaker 3: brotherly shove all the time.

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Speaker 2: So I love Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 4: This year.

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Speaker 1: You could have given me twenty guesses rank on who

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Speaker 1: is RB in Fantasy. Last year, I would not have

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Speaker 1: gotten to Breshall.

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Speaker 2: There's no way now. Part of that's because the.

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Speaker 1: Jets were largely unwatchable on offense for good chunks of

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Speaker 1: that season. Do large to their quarterback play Aaron Rodgers back.

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Speaker 1: You might think where they're going to throw the football

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Speaker 1: a lot more. Maybe they're going to run the heck

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Speaker 1: out of the ball, because now teams will actually be

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Speaker 1: respecting the passing game.

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Speaker 2: Rank.

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Speaker 1: You're the best man. Great chatting with you. Talk to

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Speaker 1: you again shortly here. Coming up after this, though, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the NFL and flag football continuing to bring

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Speaker 1: communities together. We'll discuss the latest venture of the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills when The Insiders returns. The Bills recently announced a

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Speaker 1: sponsorship in support of the National Gay Flag Football League,

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Speaker 1: as they are launching a league in Buffalo, joining twenty

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Speaker 1: seven other cities that host the NGF. Hell, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Insiders. Please be joined right now by the

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Speaker 1: commissioner of that league. Joel Horton making his debut on

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Speaker 1: the show. Joel, I'm fascinated by this entire project. I

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Speaker 1: know you started back in two thousand and two. There

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Speaker 1: are now thousands of participants in this league. Just tell

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Speaker 1: me more about what you're doing and how it's grown.

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Speaker 12: Thanks well, thanks Tom for having me. It's a pleasure

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Speaker 12: to be here and talk about the NJFFL. We as

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Speaker 12: you said, we've got twenty seven leagues across the country

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Speaker 12: and in Canada and Toronto.

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Speaker 10: We are welcoming Buffalo as our newest member.

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Speaker 12: And you know, it really started off as a grassroots organization,

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Speaker 12: a bunch of guys just throwing around the football, and

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Speaker 12: we've grown to, as you know, over four thousand members.

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Speaker 10: We've got both you.

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Speaker 12: Know, we we've got I think one of our greatest

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Speaker 12: strengths is the diversity of our league. You know, we've

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Speaker 12: got women and trands, and then we've got our straight

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Speaker 12: allies who join us and it really makes it a

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Speaker 12: lot of fun.

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Speaker 10: For us, all of us.

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Speaker 2: So tell me about the NFL's involvement, the way that

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Speaker 2: they've supported the n g f f L, and specifically

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Speaker 2: with the bills. What does that partnership mean to you.

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Speaker 10: Well, it means everything quite frankly.

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Speaker 12: A lot of the franchises where we do have our

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Speaker 12: leagues have established over the years partnerships and relationships with

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Speaker 12: our member leagues, which is you know, it's been a

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Speaker 12: huge help. I mean some of the most prominent relationships

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Speaker 12: are with the Patriots and and mister Bob Craft himself,

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Speaker 12: the Commanders the Cardinals. But with the Bears, excuse me,

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Speaker 12: with the Bills. What is different is that we don't

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Speaker 12: have a league yet in Buffalo, and so the Bills, uh,

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Speaker 12: you know, we've we're gonna walk hand in hand to

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Speaker 12: build a league together and and and so that's that's

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Speaker 12: really what makes this particular partnership very special for us.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned not just the gay and trans community

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Speaker 1: represented in terms of the play, but you have allies too.

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Speaker 2: Who all is in this How do you get involved?

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Speaker 2: Where do you find that you have to be in

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Speaker 2: this league?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Absolutely well, And I'll tell you some of our straight

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Speaker 12: allies are some of our best. I mean, there are

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Speaker 12: some of our coaches, they some of the you know,

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Speaker 12: they teach the talent, the skills that that football you

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Speaker 12: know that you need to be to be great at

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Speaker 12: football and then become our friends. You know, a lot

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Speaker 12: of them grew up playing football, whereas a lot of

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Speaker 12: us did not. You know, we've come we've come to

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Speaker 12: it in our adult years looking for a way to

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Speaker 12: connect with others, to to you know, find that joy

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Speaker 12: in competition through flag football and so our straight allies

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Speaker 12: and I would you know, there's probably at least a

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Speaker 12: good ten to fifteen percent throughout the JFFL, maybe even

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Speaker 12: more have been some of our best contributors.

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Speaker 1: So this is Chicago Pride Weekend at the tail end

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Speaker 1: of Pride Month, and you've got the Pride Bowl happening

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Speaker 1: in concert with that in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: With an event like that, where do you put it on?

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Speaker 2: What does the event look like?

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Speaker 10: So the event is thanks for asking, because the event

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Speaker 10: is underway as we speak. It's that.

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Speaker 12: If you're in Chicago, it's at Montrose Park, which is

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Speaker 12: right on the lake, So please come out and join.

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Speaker 12: We've got I believe, over forty teams from again all

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Speaker 12: over the country competing for it's our second largest tournament

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Speaker 12: of the year outside of our largest tournament.

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Speaker 10: Which is what we call Gable but and that happens

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Speaker 10: in the fall but.

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Speaker 12: This particular tournament that's hosted by our Chicago League has

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Speaker 12: become one of our best.

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Speaker 2: Gable has to be intense.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if that's if that's the biggest one

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Speaker 1: and the most important one, the competition's got to be

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Speaker 1: off the charge.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 12: We've We've done a lot of work to grow the league,

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Speaker 12: to grow the tournament, and what I mean by that

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Speaker 12: is we want as many people in our community and

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Speaker 12: our supporters possible to kind of experience what it's like

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Speaker 12: to compete at that level. So we've you know, we've

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Speaker 12: created divisions, so teams can you know, we've got elite teams.

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Speaker 12: We do have elite level athletes, athletes who've been Division one,

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Speaker 12: Division two college level players. There are a few who've

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Speaker 12: been on professional teams, and so we want to have

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Speaker 12: space for them to compete. We also want space for

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Speaker 12: people who might have just taken the game up, you know,

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Speaker 12: in their recent pass and so who might not have

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Speaker 12: the entire skill set, but but they're on their way.

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Speaker 12: So we want to kind of make space for everybody.

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Speaker 12: And in that the tournament has grown this past year.

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Speaker 12: In the fall of twenty twenty three, which was our

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Speaker 12: most recent tournament, we had over fifteen hundred athletes in

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Speaker 12: over eighty teams, and we expect to surpass that this

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Speaker 12: year this fall in our next Gaatebole, which will be

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Speaker 12: in Austin, Texas. So we're really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Joel, congrats on everything to your building is it's a

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Speaker 1: fantastic initiative. Come back to the show, look forward to

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Speaker 1: Avenue on again.

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Speaker 10: I would thank you, Tom. It's really a pleasure to

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Speaker 10: be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. This episode not done yet. More insiders after this.

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Speaker 1: Happy sixty fourth birthday to an ageless NFL legend, John

923
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Speaker 1: Elway turning sixty fourth today.

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Speaker 2: It's all the rage.

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Speaker 1: Now when you celebrate a birthday, you hit any type

926
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Speaker 1: of milestone, we get the side by sides.

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Speaker 2: How about John then and now? That is way back.

928
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Speaker 1: I believe that was when he was drafted one of

929
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Speaker 1: those two times that he was back in the early

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Speaker 1: days in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs did something earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: But Travis Kelcey as well, Kelsey somehow he's got a

933
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Speaker 1: baby face for sure.

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Speaker 2: The beard hasn't changed. I don't think. Wow, a whole

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Speaker 2: lot here hasn't changed at all. Still be all right? Oh, no,

936
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Speaker 2: oh my god, it's rake with hair and a flare caller?

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Speaker 2: Is that nineteen? That's the rage? I sort of looked

938
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Speaker 2: like the fat chandler itselves. Look at me?

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Speaker 1: What was I doing back in two thousand and eight

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Speaker 1: Hosan NFL network in uh? I think that's a seven

941
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Speaker 1: button suit right there with uh some out fabric?

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Speaker 2: And how about this too? What do we what would

943
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Speaker 2: I look like?

944
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Speaker 4: What do you thought?

945
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Speaker 2: I think it's you kidding me. You've had hair transplants,

946
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Speaker 2: enjoy it? Goodbye?

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Speaker 4: What is good