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Welcome to our podcast. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions expressed by 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: the host are their thoughts and opinions only and do 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: not reflect those of I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage you to 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: do your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Yea, 13 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: get ready to be amazed the wizard of Weird. This 14 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua PE Warren. 15 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: At each week on this show, I'll do you bring 16 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: a new, brand new mind blowing content, news exercises and 17 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more. 18 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: On this edition of the show. Spring Hilled, Jack, lizard 19 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Man a Lalla Rona. Do you know what any of 20 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: those are maybe you know what all of them are. Well, listen, 21 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: I have connected these things in my mind and I'm 22 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: going to explain to you in this show what that 23 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: connection is. And these are some of the weirdest stories 24 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: that I've come across. Okay, so I'm looking forward to 25 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: digging into them, and these are ones that I've I've 26 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: really never talked about in depth before. But first, but first, 27 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: I have a very interesting update for you, some really 28 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: cool news. So Justin Perry is a good friend of 29 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: mine who lives in Texas and he is a manifestation master. 30 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: He owns this extremely popular channel on YouTube called You 31 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Are Creators. So if you just go to YouTube dot 32 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: com type in you Are Creators, that will pop up. 33 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: He has one point six six million subscribers and eight 34 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty videos and it's just growing every day. 35 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: And one of the things about Justin, and by the way, 36 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: he has this uh afirmation that he uses all the time, 37 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: and he says it's extremely powerful. He loves coming up 38 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: with affirmations that seem very effective for people. So just 39 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: on a side note, take a note of this uh 40 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: He says, here here you go. Money comes to me 41 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: and expected and unexpected ways, and then you repeat that 42 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: five times with emotion and conviction. Every day. Here it 43 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: is again, money comes to me in expected and unexpected ways, 44 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: five times a day. He says, money you you would 45 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: just the abundance will start to shower you. You will 46 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: be amazed. So I enjoy sharing that with you. And 47 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: he is a very very busy guy. Okay, he's involved 48 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: in lots of enterprises. He and his wife have three sons. 49 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, one of his sons is 50 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: named Joshua. And we were having this conversation about parents 51 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: naming their kids Joshua, and I mentioned that, you know, 52 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: my mom and dad they to give their kids biblical names, 53 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: and so they they admired Joshua from the Bible. And 54 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: of course you've heard the song Joshua fit the Battle 55 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: of Jericho, right, and that is it's about this incident 56 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: in the Book of Joshua, the first battle fought by 57 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: the Israelites in the course of the conquest of Canaan. 58 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: And they say that um, the Israelites they marched around 59 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: the city walls once a day for six days, and 60 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: then seven times on the seventh day, and they blew 61 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: trumpets and the walls, the great mighty walls around the 62 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: city just kicked the crack that they came crumbling and 63 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: tumbling down. And so that's when the Israelites were able 64 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: to go in and uh and take over. And what's 65 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of funny is that Lauren pointed out the other 66 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: day that there was a Garth Brooks concert in Louisiana. 67 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: This is just days ago, and over one hundred thousand 68 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: fans showed up at l s u S Tiger Stadium 69 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: and they were dancing and singing so hard that it 70 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: actually caused a small earthquake. It literally registered on a seismograph. 71 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: So maybe that's similar to what happened in the Bible, 72 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: some kind of a man made earthquake, you know. Tesla 73 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: claimed he had sort of an earthquake machine that he 74 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: could use. But anyway, aside from being fascinated with manifestation, uh, 75 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Justin is extremely into UFOs and alien contact. He's one 76 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: of the most interested people I've ever met. And as 77 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: soon as he heard that I was working with Jason 78 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: Saracchi to produce these Vegas UFO skywatches, Justin bought an 79 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: airplane ticket and he flew here and we got together 80 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: on April the twenty ninth of this year, because it 81 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: was basically the new moon and nice and dark, and 82 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: what we do is we can, but we gave him, 83 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, this v I P experience. Uh, it was 84 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: just him, Jason, myself and my wife Lauren. And when 85 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: we do these skywatches with third generation night vision goggles, 86 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: we take we take people out into the desert at 87 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: least like thirty maybe thirty minutes from Vegas to get 88 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: away from light pollution. And we have different locations we 89 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: can pick and choose from, and so we keep them 90 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: most of the time confidential. We don't tell people exactly 91 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: where we're gonna be. So this first night, okay, well 92 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: here the first at the first sight of that night, 93 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: let me just tell you what happened. So Justin has 94 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: never used third generation night vision goggles before. And this 95 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: technology is so precious that it's it's literally illegal to 96 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: allow a non US citizen to look through a pair 97 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: of third generation night vision goggles. It's a federal offense. 98 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: It's due to what's called I TAR I T, a 99 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: arts regulatory for you know, weapons systems and all that. 100 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: But so we you know, we have to make sure 101 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: we only allow US citizens to participate, and some people 102 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: don't understand that, but we don't have a choice. So anyway, Um, 103 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: so we get out there in the field and Jason Saracchi, 104 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: of course he has this excellent setup. Uh, He's got 105 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: every type of camera you could want, all these different goggles, 106 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: and I mean the weather was ideal, the sky was clear, 107 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was ah, we just knew we were 108 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: going to see something. Well the first thing that happened, 109 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: it was kind of really great luck and kind of 110 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: bad luck at the same time. And let me explain 111 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. Okay, so we had, uh, we each 112 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: had a pair of third generation night vision goggles. At 113 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: this time. Lauren was not around and it was just 114 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: Jason and Justin and myself, the three the three J's 115 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: in the field. And because that, okay, then we only 116 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: use the finest third generation night vision goggles. He's called 117 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: Para Temporal night Vision goggles. And if you want to 118 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: learn all about them, and you can watch videos and stuff, 119 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: go to Para Temporal dot com p A r A 120 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: T E M p O r A L Para Temporal 121 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: dot com and uh, and you can learn why that 122 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: we only use them, and a pair of these costs 123 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. Uh, there are some you can get 124 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: that are less expensive, but we are using like the 125 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: Crimdala crime. So in order to film through these third 126 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: gend goggles, what you do is you take these goggles, 127 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: which are ordinarily kind of like just binoculars that you 128 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: would look through, which allow you to see into the 129 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: invisible infrared realm. And it's unbelievable because for every star 130 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: you can see with your naked eye, you can see 131 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: like twenty or thirty through the goggles. I mean, the 132 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: sky just explodes and sparkles like diamonds. It's amazing. But 133 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: when you get these things, you're you're looking directly through them, 134 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: and if you want to record what you're seeing, then 135 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: traditionally what you do is you kind of remove one 136 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: of the eye pieces and then you have a after 137 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: that you can use to screw on a camera. So 138 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: having the camera there is really great because obviously you 139 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: can record what the goggles see, but it also kind 140 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: of takes away from your experience using the goggles in 141 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: real time because you're giving up an eyepiece there and there. 142 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: There's there's something sort of between your face and and 143 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: the goggles. So what I'm getting out here is at 144 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: this point, Jason he had just gotten his camera hooked 145 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: up to his third gen night vision goggles, and Justin 146 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: and I didn't have cameras hooked up yet, and I 147 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: was just sort of showing him how to use the goggles, 148 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: and he's just going, Wow, this is amazing, you know. 149 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 1: And so at one point I said to um, I okay. 150 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: At one point I'm looking up and it was just 151 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: like so lucky, was so serendipitous. Justin and I were 152 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: looking at the same spot and the guy at the 153 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: same time, and we both go WHOA, This big, bright, 154 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: like jagged looking object that seemed very low and close 155 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: to us goes darting right over our heads and we're 156 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: just screaming. And and of course, poor old Jason, he's 157 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: just getting his camera hooked up. He was where is it? 158 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: Where is it? And this thing we couldn't have been 159 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: there longer than ten seconds before I just shot right 160 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: off into space. And so the two guys who saw it, 161 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: Justin myself, we're lucky that we both got to see 162 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: that was super lucky. But we didn't have the cameras 163 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: on our goggles and the one the one guy who 164 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: did Jason, he he wasn't looking in the same spot 165 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: at that time, so we didn't get proof of that. 166 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: But that sucked. But don't worry. Don't worry, because later 167 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: on something very interesting happened. We ended up seeing quite 168 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: a few UFOs at that at that spot, and Jason 169 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: got some great footage. But I think the big achievement 170 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: of the night was what happened when we decided to 171 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: drive an hour to make the light the night longer, 172 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,119 Speaker 1: which is something we wouldn't ordinarily do on a SkyWatch 173 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: unless somebody requested that extra time. And um, we we. 174 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: We took our little group up north of Las Vegas 175 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: on the route to area fifty one, to where I 176 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: discovered the so called time warp. So here we are 177 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: out there late at night, and it's so dark and 178 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: it's eerily quiet, and we're ready now, Okay, we're prepared now, 179 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: and we all saw something and it's on video. Um, 180 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: when we come back from this break, I'm gonna tell 181 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: you what we saw, and I'm going to play some 182 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: audio for you of us reacting to what we were seeing. 183 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: So cool, and then of course after that I'll finally 184 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: get into all these weird beings that I've been intrigued 185 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: by that may or may not even have a connection 186 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: to some of these well aliens, interdimensional beings that I 187 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: was spring Hill Jack lizard Man. Anyway, Uh, listen to this. 188 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: I've told you before. I just bought a new piece 189 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: of property at one of the most paranormal hotspots on 190 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: planet Earth. I have the deed in my hand. I 191 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: will soon be telling you what I'm gonna do with 192 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: this land and what I am building on it. It's 193 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: one of the wildest things I've ever done. If you 194 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: want to hear about it, first, go to Joshua P. 195 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: Warren dot com. Sign up for my free eat newsletter. 196 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Takes you two seconds. You put your email addressing there, 197 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: you hit the submit button, and you'll instantly receive some 198 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: free gifts from me just for doing that. There's no 199 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: period after the p Go to Joshua P. Warren dot com. 200 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: That's me. And you're listening to Strange Things on the 201 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast to m Pemparanormal 202 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back 203 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast 204 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: to Coast to m Paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, 205 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your 206 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: wormhole brain from my studio and sends city Las Vegas, Nevada, 207 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver, 208 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: And here we were on one of those silver nights 209 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: at the time warp. This is the place where in 210 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, I made a discovery that went viral, 211 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: made international headlines. I used Ron Heath's DT meter, his 212 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: differential time rate meter, and discovered this spot on the 213 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: side of the road on the way to Area fifty one, 214 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: where I was able to measure time momentarily slowing down, 215 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,479 Speaker 1: which at that time mainstream scientists said should not be possible. 216 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: But just since then, in the past four years or so, 217 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: there have been a lot of advances that are starting 218 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: to confirm more and more that time is a little 219 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: slippery and lucy guco all over the place. And of 220 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: course then things got even weirder when I found that 221 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: later on that this was a paranormal hot spot where 222 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: people have been seeing UFOs, having close encounters, experience it 223 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: seem missing time. I've talked about it a lot and 224 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: once before Jason went out there at night and he 225 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: got some kind of a weird light in the desert 226 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. Well here we were back 227 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: there again late at night, perfect conditions, and lo and behold, boom. 228 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Here we have out in the desert pal a light 229 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: that appears, and then a second light that appears, and 230 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: they're drifting around the desert. And these are not visible 231 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: to the naked eye, exceptcept occasionally you might get a 232 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: little hint of a reddish color, but usually they were 233 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: not available. And let let me just play the audio, 234 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: just part of the audio from you know what what 235 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: happened to us? Our reaction when we solve these lights appearing. 236 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna hear I think all of us 237 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: in this. I'm talking, Jason's talking, Justin's talking. I think 238 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: even Lauren chimes in at a certain point. So here 239 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: you go. This will give you an idea of how 240 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: exciting this was for us. There's something down there? What 241 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: is down there? Do you see that? Yeah? It's bright 242 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: as hell, yo, Justin, come here quickly. Yeah, Lauren, I 243 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: don't know what the hell that is. There's two of 244 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: them looked over there. Man, they looked for the nike 245 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: and eye you can't see. But look, there's something flash 246 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: and it just crossed the field. It's in the same 247 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: place it was before. It's about to disappear. So you 248 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: look with your naked eye justin there's nothing there. What 249 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: the hell is that? It's gone? Oh, this is exactly 250 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: where I saw. It's further away. Now do you see 251 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: a far just moved? Lauren, are you recording that? Look 252 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: right down the trail. It's gone. Yeah, it just disappeared. Well, 253 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: it's I could barely see a little bit. Holy again 254 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: up the lights back. It's down there again down the 255 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: trail this time it is that. We gotta go down there, 256 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: like I think this warrants a walk. It's gone. It's 257 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: there still, it's still there. Now it's gone. What the 258 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: hell was that? It's back again. It's way further down 259 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: the trail though, way further down back. Look at that. Yeah, 260 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it is bad. Okay, it's bad. Yeah, 261 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: videotaping it's gone again. Yeah, it appears and disappears. Now. 262 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: Jason was a brave man that night, and he actually 263 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: walked by himself way down that trail to see if 264 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: he could get a closer look. Even though there are 265 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: mountain lions and coyotes and rattlesnakes and scorpions, they was gone. 266 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: It was gone. If you want to see this footage, though, 267 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: if you actually want to see what we're talking about, 268 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: John Carter up there in Canada he put these clips together. 269 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: All you have to do is go to YouTube and 270 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: just do a search for his channel, which is UFOs Worldwide, 271 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: and you'll see he's called it two orbs called in 272 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: Nevada Desert. Two orbs called in Nevada Desert. And I'll 273 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: try to remember to post a link to that uh 274 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: on my Twitter for you as well. But anyway, you 275 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: can see how excited we were. As a matter of fact, 276 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: Justin said that he had such a great time he's 277 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: already planning his next trip back. And so that's why 278 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how long we're going to make these 279 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: things available. Um, but can you imagine what a surprising 280 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: gift that would be for somebody. I mean, like, like, 281 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: what's cooler than going out and having experiences like that 282 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: with your own eyes. If you want to look into 283 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: coming to the area, we'll do our best to work 284 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: with you and accommodate your schedule. Just go to Vegas 285 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: UFOs dot com. It's also okay to bring uh kids. 286 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: We originally were uncertain about that, but we've decided that 287 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people in town, you know, they want 288 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: to show their kids this stuff, so we're cool with that. 289 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: So just go to Vegas UFOs dot com. But we're 290 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: not gonna be taking a lot of reservations this year, 291 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: so hopefully you'll be able to join us. So listen. Um, 292 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking about what, you know, what we were 293 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: seeing that night, and what's going on at the time 294 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: warp and what kind of beings might be coming here 295 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: from other dimensions, and I started my mind started racing 296 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: about some of my favorite bizarre, unsolved mysteries, and I thought, 297 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's some some stuff that I've never really 298 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: talked about in depth on this show. Then may have 299 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: something to do with visitors from these other places. And 300 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: I promise, I know this sounds like I'm going all 301 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: over the place, but I'm going to connect all of 302 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: this together for you by the end of the show. 303 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: When I was growing up, one of the weirdest beings 304 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: that I came across was this character, you know, just 305 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: in literature call spring hill Jack. Okay, and I to 306 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: this day I am intrigued with spring Hill Jack because 307 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what what to make of this thing. Okay, 308 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: let me just sort of give you the basic story. 309 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: Spring Hill springhilled like, you know, a guy who has 310 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: springs on his hills, who can jump really, really far. 311 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: He is an entity in English folklore of the Victorian era. 312 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: The first claimed sighting of spring Hill Jack was an 313 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: eighteen thirty seven and there are many theories about the 314 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: identity of spring Hill Jack. H He inspired a lot 315 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: of fiction, and let me try to describe for you 316 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: in a nutshell. Spring Hill Jack was this humanoid being 317 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: that kind of looked like the devil. He had horns 318 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: and sort of a van Dyke beard, and he often 319 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: wore a cape and he would jump out of the 320 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: shadows at night and sort of terrorize people. He would 321 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: just jump out of the shadows and smack a cop 322 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: in the face and then just jump over fences and 323 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: disappear like some kind of kangaroo. Uh. There were some 324 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: occasions where he would jump out and sort of you know, 325 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: touch women inappropriately, and this became such a problem. I mean, 326 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: there were a whole special sections of law enforcement that 327 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: spent years trying to figure out is this is this 328 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: a being? Is this a man who's dressed up because 329 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: he would do these superhuman things. For example, sometimes he 330 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: would breathe fire in people's faces and scorch them. So 331 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: you have this guy who could hop incredible distances and 332 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: disappear in the shadows. It just comes out and does 333 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: nasty means stuff blows fire in your face. I mean, 334 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: they say. Everybody said he had a frightful and terrifying appearance. 335 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: He had clawed hands and eyes that resembled red balls 336 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: of fire. One report claimed that beneath a black coat cloak, 337 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: he wore a helmet and a tight fitting white garment 338 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: like an oil skin. But some of the people said 339 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: that these flames that he would breathe out were sort 340 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: of blue and white, and his claws seemed sort of metallic. 341 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: Could this have been some kind of crazy guy who 342 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: was some kind of like diabolical steampunk dude who created 343 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: this costume, who was sort of like the evil Batman 344 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: who just decided to go around and dormant people. It's 345 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: an unsolved mystery. This went on for years, and nobody 346 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: knows to this day what spring Hill Jack really was. 347 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: And so look, let me just give you a little 348 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: bit more information about uh, like some of the times 349 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: where people encountered him. Uh. Jane Aslop was a woman 350 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: who reported that on the night of February nineteenth of 351 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: eight teen thirty eight, she answered the door of her 352 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: father's house to a man claiming to be a police officer, 353 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: who told her to bring a light, claiming, quote, we 354 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: have caught spring Heeled Jack here in the lane. And 355 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: she brought the person a candle and noticed that he 356 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: wore a large cloak, and the moment she handed him 357 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: the candle, however, he threw off the cloak. I guess 358 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: what he quote presented a most hideous and frightful appearance 359 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: end quote, vomiting blue and white flame from his mouth, 360 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: while his eyes resembled red balls of fire. Ms All 361 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: Slap also reported that he wore a large helmet. And 362 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: she's the one who said that his clothing, which appeared 363 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: to be very tight fitting, resembled white oil skin. I'm 364 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: not sure exactly what that is, but I can imagine 365 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: without saying a word, he caught hold of her and 366 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: began tearing her gown with his claws, which she said, 367 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: we're certainly of quote some metallic substance end quote. She 368 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: screamed for help and managed to get away from him 369 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: and ran toward the house. He caught her on the 370 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: steps and tore her neck and arms with his claws. 371 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: She was rescued by one of her sisters, after which 372 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: her assailant fled. Okay, Um, there's another case here which 373 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: is the case of It's called the Scales case. UM. 374 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Eighteen year old Lucy Skills and her sister were returning 375 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: home after visiting their brother, a butcher, who lived in 376 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: a respectable part of the area. UM. She told the 377 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: police in her deposition that as she and her sister 378 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: were passing along this alleyway called the Green Dragon Alley, 379 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: they saw a sort of a person standing at an angle, 380 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: and she was walking in front of her sister, and 381 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: just as she came up to the person, who was 382 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: wearing a large cloak, he quote spurred a quantity of 383 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: blue flame in her face, which deprived her of sight 384 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: and so alarmed her that she instantly dropped to the 385 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: ground and was seized with violent fits, which continued for 386 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: several hours. Um. Okay we're coming up on a break. 387 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: We come back, I'll tell you a little bit more 388 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: about like this guy, this thing, who or what was he? 389 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: And perhaps some similar beings that we have to be 390 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: concerned about historically speaking. I'm Joshua PE Warren. You're listening 391 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast 392 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: to Coast DAMN Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be 393 00:25:33,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to Strange Things on the I 394 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 395 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, and this is the 396 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: show where the unusual becomes usual. And apparently in a 397 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: town called Lincolnshire and the autumn of eighteen sevente spring 398 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: Hill Jack was seen hopping around there and angry mob 399 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: supposedly chased him and cornered him, and uh some residents 400 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: even fired guns at him to no effect. And as usual, 401 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: he was said to a vague use of his leaping 402 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: abilities to lose the crowd and jump away into the night, 403 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: disappearing once again. Nobody knows what to make of this. 404 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a fixture and popular popular culture 405 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: for a long time. People in London would often equate 406 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: his name with that of the Boogeyman the Devil. The 407 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: character was written into a number of the Penny Dreadful 408 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: stories during the latter half of the nineteenth century. And 409 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: even though I mean, like some people said, this could 410 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: have been this rich Irish nobleman, the Marcus of Waterford, 411 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: who had a reputation for being mechanically gifted and like 412 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, and enjoyed pranking people and had a sinister side, 413 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: a mischievous side. I don't know, We don't know. A 414 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: lot of people think, you know, this could be an extraterrestrial, 415 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: this could be a superhuman and entrydimensional being that this 416 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: could have been some kind of encrypted authors like Lauren 417 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: Coleman and Jerome Clark they list spring Hill Jack in 418 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: a category they call fant of them attackers. Another example 419 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: of this would be one called the Mad Gasser of 420 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: Mattun Phantom attackers. They usually appear to be human, but 421 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: maybe perceived as sort of prosaic criminals and display extraordinary abilities. 422 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we need to make a movie 423 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: about this. Huh. There you go. I gave somebody a 424 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: good idea. But you know what, when you when you 425 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: read about this kind of stuff. It reminds me of 426 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: cases like one a little closer to where I grew up. 427 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: And when I grew up in North Carolina and South Carolina, 428 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: we had this being called the lizard man. First reported 429 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties. The lizard man was this, you know, 430 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: like seven foot tall reptilian. I think the fair maybe 431 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: The first case was in nineteen eight the Sheriff's department 432 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: investigated a report of a car damaged overnight torn up 433 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: outside Bishopville, South Carolina. Uh, tooth marks and scratches and 434 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: muddy footprints were left behind and uh. Then finally there 435 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: was a seventeen year old local named Christopher Davis who 436 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: said that lizard man appeared in front of his car 437 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: one night as as a green against seven foot tall 438 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: thing with three fingers, red eyes, skin like a lizard, 439 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: snake like scales. A bunch of people saw a lizard man, 440 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: and this became such a big topic in the local 441 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: news that somebody put out, like I think it was 442 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: a radio station, put out a one million dollar reward 443 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: to anybody who could capture the lizard man alive. And 444 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that created a ruckus. I mean, talk 445 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: about a bunch of drunk nudes looking for an excuse 446 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: to go out into the swamps with their rifles. And 447 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, the thing is, this is still it's it's 448 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: an unsolved street. But back, like, you know, over ten 449 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: years ago, I was working on this television series. I 450 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: was a cast member. It was called Paranormal Paparazzi was 451 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: on the Travel Channel, and one of the stories that 452 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: I covered was the lizard Man, and I figured that 453 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: it was probably just some kind of a prankster, you know. 454 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: But here I left with a different attitude. I went 455 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: down there and I actually spent time and in the 456 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: home of the man who was the sheriff at that time, 457 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: Sheriff Trusdale, and he's convinced that it was a real 458 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: creature and he had all kinds of evidence that he 459 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: showed me and my producer, see Eric Scott, right there 460 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: on camera, and then he offered to take us out 461 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: into the swamp and show us where these incidents had happened. 462 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: And guess who joined us the current sheriff. So what 463 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: we had the current sheriff there of the county, as 464 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: well as the former sheriff, uh taking, you know, chaperoning 465 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: me and Eric all around and telling us stories and 466 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: introducing us to witness this is it's wild as a 467 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: matter as a matter of fact. If you want to 468 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: see that segment for free, all you have to do 469 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: is go to Joshua P. Warren dot com and there's 470 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: a section called TV and Film Work where I give 471 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: examples of some of the stuff that I've done on 472 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: television over the years. And you'll see that report there. 473 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: And I left there after talking to these witnesses and 474 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: seeing these markings thinking like, I believe there was a 475 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: real creature here involved in this whole mix. And now 476 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: those kind of seem like maybe these are aliens or 477 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: interdimensional weirdies of some kind. But this I'm gonna take 478 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a twist here again, I'm gonna 479 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: tie all this together. This is usually considered a ghost, okay, 480 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: La la la la rona, la rona Okay. In Mexican folklore, 481 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: Lalla Rona the weeping woman is a vengeful ghost who 482 00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: roams waterfront areas mourning her children, whom she drowned. And 483 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: it says here that this story goes back a long way, 484 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: but it's primarily I mean, like it's told throughout Mexico 485 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: Central America, South America. There are a lot of different versions, 486 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: but the typical version is a beautiful woman named Maria. 487 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: She marries this rich, you know, rancher type guy. They 488 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: have some kids. One day, Maria sees her husband with 489 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: another woman and in a fit of blind rage, she 490 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: drowns their kids in a river, which she immediately regrets, 491 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: and then she you know, she is consumed by her guilt, 492 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: and so she drowns herself as well, but is unable 493 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: to enter the afterlife because she's forced to be in 494 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: purgatory and roam the earth until she finds her children. 495 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: And this is all throughout many of these again Latin cultures, 496 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: as as a cautionary tale and also a way of like, 497 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, scaring kids. Nobody is sure exactly where the 498 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: story of the weeping female um phantom came from, and 499 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: you can read more about different versions of that. But 500 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: here's why I wanted to bring this up. When I 501 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: was in Puerto Rico, there was I I lived on 502 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: the southwestern coast of Puerto Rico in a town called 503 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: Bocron and it was right next to town called Lajas 504 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: and La Hassa is where we had the lagoon and Carthagena, 505 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: which was a the Ufo Lagoon. A lot of paranormal 506 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: stuff was happening around La Haas, and when I was 507 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: talking to people about weird stories, I would hear that 508 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: La Lorona uh had inspired some very interesting activity in 509 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: the community. And years past, I think, like in the 510 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: early nineteen nineties, they said that there was this creek 511 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: out there in La Haas where at night people would 512 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: see La Lorona and and she's got the white gown on, 513 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: and she's got the long hair, and she's weeping and 514 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: shrieking and and I mean, this became such a big 515 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: thing that like all the high school kids would go 516 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: there and try to see if they could catch a 517 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: glimpse of this. And they were, they and they were. 518 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: They were seeing this figure and fleeing in a horror 519 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: every night. And this went on for a long time 520 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: until finally the truth was revealed. There was this one 521 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: gas station that was nearby, and apparently I was told 522 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: the guy who owned the gas station he was trying 523 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: to drum up business, and so he would put on 524 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: a white gown and a wig and he would go 525 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: out there and creep down along the banks of this creek. 526 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: At night, you know, and come out and scared a 527 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: crap out of people all year long, because everybody who 528 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: came out would stop at his gas station and you know, 529 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: buy a snack or a drink or a fill up. 530 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: So but he finally got busted. Okay, two reasons I'm 531 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm connecting all these things together. Number one is and 532 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: each one of these cases there may actually be a 533 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: real phenomenon. Okay, we don't know what the original spring 534 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Hill Jack was. We don't know what the original lizard 535 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: Man was. We don't know the circumstances of the original 536 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: La Lorona, but it became so popular that we can 537 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: feel confident that it did inspire hoaxes to go out 538 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: there and take advantage of that and to start, you know, 539 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: pranking people and scaring people. And I know that they 540 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: think they're doing that all and good fun. But the 541 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: problem is people who take advantage of real encounters like 542 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: this and go out and use them for pranks, they 543 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: muddy the water for legitimate research. One of the main 544 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: reasons so many paranormal phenomena are easily to dismiss is 545 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: because you have one person who may go out and 546 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: and try to do a copycat, fake thing, and it's 547 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: possible that there was a real spring Hill Jack and 548 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: then people went out and decided to pretend to be 549 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: spring Hill Jack and and and abuse the fear that 550 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: people had same thing with lizard Man, etcetera. Was this 551 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: a guy in a suit? Eventually we just don't know. 552 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: But just because there are a counterfeit dollar bills in 553 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: the world, that doesn't mean there are no real ones. 554 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: I was watching one of these shows the other day, 555 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: but one of these American greed episodes, and they were 556 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who made a fortune selling fake 557 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: vintage wine for millions and millions of dollars. People will 558 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: do anything for a buck. So it becomes a big 559 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: hall of mirrors when you when you start trying to 560 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: sort through these things. But let's ask ourselves a bigger question. 561 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: There is a new story, a new news story from 562 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: NASA about a major project, a major endeavor, and they 563 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: are going to invite whatever is out there, whatever aliens, 564 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: whatever entry dimensionals, whatever being, They're going to invite them 565 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: to come here to planet Earth using a level of 566 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: technology that is well, it's it's greater than ever before. 567 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: We have better satellite dishes, we have bigger scopes, more 568 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: powerful everything. When we come back, I'm gonna tell you 569 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: more about that and say, you know, we have to 570 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: think it like is this Is this a good idea? 571 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: Is it? And then also I have some pretty wild 572 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: emails I want to read to you. Um, do we 573 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:44,720 Speaker 1: want more spring Hill? Jack's more lizard Men. I'm Joshua P. Warren. 574 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 575 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast and Parinormal Podcast Network. I'll be 576 00:37:53,920 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: back after these important messages. Welcome back to the final 577 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: segment of this edition of Strange Things Well the I 578 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network. 579 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: I am your host, Joshua pe Warren. And remember how 580 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: in the book and movie Jurassic Park, the big question was, 581 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, just because you can do something scientifically, does 582 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: that mean you should. Well, the New York Post is 583 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: saying headline NASA to launch naked pictures of humans to 584 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: space and hope of quote attracting aliens end quote. And 585 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: they're reporting on a story by Charlotte Edwards and the 586 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: Sun and says NASA scientists planned to launch pictures of 587 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: naked humans the depictions will also include an invitation to 588 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: respond should an intelligent alien race find the space nudes. Fortunately, 589 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: the hypothetical aliens should not be too shocked by the 590 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: nudes because the pictures aren't that graphic, but a drawing 591 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: of a naked man and a woman next to a 592 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: depiction of DNA. The man and woman are waving and 593 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: an attempt to look more inviting. It's part of a 594 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: study called the Beacon in the Galaxy, and the main 595 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: aim is to send a message to any alien civilizations 596 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: out there. They're kind of following up on what the 597 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: Arecibo Observatory did in Puerto Rico years ago, and so 598 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: right now, um, they're sending up this radio signal. It's 599 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: a binary code basically zeros and ones that draws a 600 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: very very simple, basic picture with some very very basic 601 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: colors from a satellite array in California and then the 602 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: big old radio satellite the dish there in China, and uh, 603 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: let's see, I'm not sure exactly women they're gonna do this, um, 604 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: but they have some other like basic mathematical and physical 605 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: concepts that they're encoding in this about gravity um. And 606 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: it's it's not that different than what we did with 607 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: with the Pioneer plaques that were sent on the nineteen 608 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: seventy two Pioneer ten in nineteen seventy three Pioneer eleven missions. 609 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: But those were pictures like like plaques attached to the craft, 610 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: and they're so encountering what you'd have to to be 611 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: much much luckier to encounter one of those than to 612 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: pick up this signal that we're sending out there right now. Now, Look, 613 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: I have done my share of inviting aliens to come 614 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: and visit us, so I am nobody to criticize a 615 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: mission like this. But look, I realized there are people 616 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: out there who say, I'm being naive. You don't know 617 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You don't want this, you don't want 618 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: more lizard men, you don't want more spring hill jacks. 619 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: We these are the types of beings that we're going 620 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: to attract. I don't know. I guess I'm too curious, 621 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: and the curiosity kills the kid. I just say, all right, 622 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: let's do it, let's get this over with before I die. 623 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to see what's out there. That's just me. 624 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: So I'm okay with it, But I don't know, are 625 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: you okay let's move von to some listener oriented stuff 626 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: before we have to go. Uh. Let me remind you now, 627 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: this might be the last time you hear about this 628 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 1: if you live near Alexandria, Virginia. Jim Kalanna, the composer, 629 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: is going to be debuting his composition called Joshua's Shop 630 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: and Miracles. Excuse me, Joshua's Shop of Miracles and Curiosities. 631 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: The world premier there will be on May twenty two, 632 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 1: two at two pm, performed by the American Youth phil 633 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: Harmonic at the Rachel M. Schlessinger Concert Hall and Arts Center. 634 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: And if you want to get a ticket to that, 635 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: it's uh, they're very affordable. I'm sure. Just go to 636 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: Jim Kalanna dot com. J I M c O l 637 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: O n n A. I am honored that he has 638 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: composed a piece of music like this based upon my work. 639 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: J I M C O l O N n A. 640 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: And if you go there and listened to it, hey, 641 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: give me your feedback. I'd love to hear about it. 642 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: I wish I could be there, but I already have 643 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: a trip planned and I'll be telling you more about 644 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: that my my crazy travel schedule in the near future. Okay, 645 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: so let's go to some emails. Here. We have one 646 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 1: from Crystal in California, and she says in the subject lying, 647 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: the Miraculous prayer Board strikes again. I had some unfortunate 648 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: circumstances happened that knocked my finances way down. And then 649 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: I had three bills do and there was not even 650 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: enough money in the bank to do the minimum payments. 651 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: And this was the first for me. My stress was 652 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: for the roof many exclamation points. I scraped from everywhere 653 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: and put everything in my bill paying account, and it 654 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: was still short. I was so stressed, I was getting 655 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: a migraine. And then I remember it. I haven't used 656 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: the Miraculous prayer Board in a long time, so I 657 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: got it right away and wished to have these bills 658 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: paid and some money left over because I need some 659 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: more food too. And the next day, still looking for 660 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: a solution, I checked my bank account again and I 661 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: was stunned. My Etsy shop had deposited I don't want 662 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: to say how much, but blank amount of money. She says, 663 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: My shops are not due to make any deposits. And 664 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: I went to both of my shops and neither one 665 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: says they made a deposits and yet there it is, 666 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: and my bills and food are covered. L O L. 667 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: I have never been so happy about a deposit in 668 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: my life. The Miraculous Prayer Board is amazing. Many exclamation points. Well, 669 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear that, Crystal, And um, at 670 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: some point, if you'd like, I can tell people how 671 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: to visit your Etsy shop. But I don't want to 672 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: do that without your explicit permission. But that's cool. If 673 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: you are interested in experimenting like Crystal is doing, just 674 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: go to Joshua pe Warren dot job and click the 675 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: link to the Curiosity Shop and you can read about 676 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: the Miraculous Prayer Board. It comes with a money back guarantee, 677 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: but you know what, nobody ever asks for it. Okay, 678 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: And here is an email I got from a man 679 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: named Ronald, and he says, um, have you say? He goes, 680 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: what is your opinion on the s l S cameras 681 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: that some paranormal investigators use on TV? Are they truly 682 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: mapping entities? And have you ever used one? I love 683 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: your show, keep up the great content. Uh well, thank 684 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: you very much for that, Ronald. And Okay, So for 685 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: people who may not be familiar sometimes you're watching a 686 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: ghost hunting show and they have a camera that UM 687 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: has a piece of software. They're the kind of latches 688 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: onto uh data points in our room and connects the 689 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: dots and forms kind of stick figure that looks very humanoid. 690 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: And it's pretty compelling to see that, UM, And I 691 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 1: know that it was sort of invented for the video 692 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: gaming industry so that you could move in your living 693 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,479 Speaker 1: room or whatever, and a little camera would be able 694 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: to pick up your movements and interpret them and uh 695 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: create an action for your avatar in the game. And 696 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're used in Hollywood for special effects. So anyway, UM, 697 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: I wrote him back and I said, you know, I 698 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: have toyed with these SLS cameras and that type of software. 699 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: But here is the problem. The tech is created biased. Now, 700 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: I know that sounds weird. You don't think of technology 701 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: as being biased necessarily, But I went on to say, 702 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: the software is predisposed to look for human shapes, and 703 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: so it struggles to turn almost anything into a human shape. Now, 704 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: this is a conundrum because the camera maybe picking up 705 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: a real phantom, or it may simply be trying to 706 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: find something human like. So and many ways. It just 707 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: mimics the human brains, perceptions and biases. You know. It's 708 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of like electronic paradoia, so I said in a nutshell, 709 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating. Before it to be credible, i'd want 710 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: to see multiple SLS cameras, at least three capture the 711 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:46,959 Speaker 1: same figure from three different angles. That now, that would 712 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: be interesting. That that that would be impressive. Uh. Anytime 713 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: you're looking at something from one particular point of view, 714 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: then it's much much easier to just h have you know, 715 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: shadows and reflections and parptical illusions and effects that can create. 716 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: You know, I get the connection of the dots, but yeah, 717 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: different angles, that would be cool. Okay, we're almost out 718 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: of time here, and it's pretty soon I'm going to 719 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: be asking you to go on my social media and 720 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: to send me questions about anything you want. It doesn't 721 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: even have to be paranormal necessarily. Uh. And I am 722 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: going to do oh at least a show where to 723 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: where I just sit down and answer your questions. That's 724 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 1: gonna go in any direction, I'm sure, so stay tuned 725 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: for that. All right, it is now time for you 726 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 1: to relax. If you can close your eyes kick back 727 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: and take a deep breath. This tone, it just keeps 728 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: working wonders for people. A lot of people rely on 729 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: it every week. So here it is. This is the 730 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: good Fortune tone, and meditate on this. That's it for 731 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 1: this edition of the show. 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