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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Welcome back everybody to are you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 1: We have the incredible Jennifer Leese Cox with us.

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Speaker 2: Part two.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, okay, so we're outside, we've made it

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Speaker 1: to where they're they're at your event where you don't

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Speaker 1: let Samantha and carry into the after party.

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Speaker 3: So mean of you, but so happy seeing the movie

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Speaker 3: I know, which.

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Speaker 1: Is so la, so la and so funny that they're like,

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Speaker 1: no one sees the movie. No, we live for movies

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Speaker 1: out here, people, that's our job. It's a movie town.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, definitely no. And also now it is true,

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Speaker 1: there's like little youngsters like you were at the time,

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Speaker 1: like little people with those lists, like little young people.

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Speaker 3: Like god, they're out there, they're out there on a

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Speaker 3: power trip, right, yeah, all right, whatever makes you feel powerful.

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Speaker 1: Totally totally, but you do it well, you wield your

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Speaker 1: power well. So then they're like, oh, what are we

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Speaker 1: gonna do? So Samantha goes off to get the car

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Speaker 1: and of course it's going to take an hour, which

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Speaker 1: is so true.

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Speaker 3: Maybe too good actually at that time at an event totally.

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Speaker 2: You are stuck, man, and you might.

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Speaker 3: Get another car. I did get another car one night,

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Speaker 3: and you're just like, that's not my car.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get.

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Speaker 2: In the wrong car.

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Speaker 3: I've done that.

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Speaker 2: I've done that.

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Speaker 1: You're just like, thank God, a car is here and

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Speaker 1: you get in it, and then you realize, no, that's

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Speaker 1: not it's not right.

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Speaker 2: But luckily, out.

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Speaker 1: Strolls a very tall glass of water named Vince Vaughn,

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Speaker 1: who's talking on the phone. This is when the confusion starts.

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Speaker 1: He's talking on the phone about like he's saying something like, well,

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Speaker 1: when she can get back to me, you know, tell her,

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Speaker 2: Like he seems very powerful in himself, right.

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Speaker 3: But he's probably talking to Carrie Fisher and she's like

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Speaker 3: getting cat food.

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Speaker 1: Totally totally, but you have no idea because he really

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Speaker 1: pulls it off, right, Like he really seems like I

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Speaker 1: hold the power.

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Speaker 2: I hold the power.

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Speaker 1: So he walks out, and of course he's delicious looking

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Speaker 1: and carries there looking also very delicious with a lot

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Speaker 2: I might add it is and it's shiny. It's shiny, man.

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Speaker 3: Highlight. It looks beautiful.

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Speaker 1: We used to have those palettes by Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna remember her name. She still makes makeup,

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Speaker 1: but it's not so popular now as it was then.

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Speaker 1: We had a palate. It had like like you know,

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love that you were talking about the makeup because

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Speaker 1: Trish Macavoy is Trisha Macavoy? Yes, And I mean like

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Speaker 1: we went through them like where our hands would be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got rosetia because I would just put it

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: I know, when you look at yourself when you're younger,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: You're gorgeous now, like your eyes, your you know, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if we had lived through the nineties, we had

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Speaker 3: They say most murders happened in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's a different podcast, Jennifer.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, So outwalks, Keith travers that is that it is,

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Speaker 1: it's fun and for some reason, he says, representing Matt Damon,

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Speaker 1: that's why she thinks he's an agent.

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Speaker 1: Right, But it's interesting that he says that. But also

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Speaker 1: then once he so he gets them in the party,

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Speaker 1: so he seems to actually have power, and then someone

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Speaker 2: So he I mean, but.

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Speaker 1: That's because he's an assistant to everybody, which we now know, right,

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Speaker 1: But they don't know this, and they don't even know

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Speaker 1: the dynamic of an assistant having so much power, because yes,

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Speaker 1: are somehow Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Kerrie Fisher and wait, there's.

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Speaker 1: My god, somehow could manage those four people?

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Speaker 1: Right, Like, why were they all sharing an assistant?

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Speaker 3: Why were they sharing an assistant? I love how in

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Speaker 3: the episode they talk about like this home is so

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Speaker 3: expensive three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Every time I said it, I was dying. I was dying.

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Speaker 1: Every time I said that, I was like, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: is that even accurate?

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Speaker 1: But also we don't know how many bedrooms because they

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Speaker 3: Anything for three million, I mean anything anywhere?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, We're back to the episode Lovely Beautiful. Vince Bawn

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Speaker 1: walks out and he's like so so charming, good god, right,

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Speaker 3: Short that's what's funny.

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Speaker 1: He's literally tall, and he's a giant and thin and

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Speaker 2: It's so la, right, it reminds right, yeah, And that

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the Studio and all those driving where

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Speaker 2: And he's like, I guess I don't.

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Speaker 3: And then they make out, which is also like what

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Speaker 3: they're making out against the glass. They're almost doing it

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Speaker 1: But I wasn't there to say that.

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Speaker 3: I'm so uptight. I'm uptight like Charlotte. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: stoping to myself, like, stop making out. There's a person there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, No, that Reeler would be like, I'm

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Speaker 2: They're in the hot tub. It's la.

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Speaker 1: It's all very funny, and it turns out that Keith

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Speaker 1: It's so funny, and it goes on for so long,

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Speaker 1: And also, I mean it's interesting Carrie's reaction, like she

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Speaker 1: There's so much going on, which is how I feel

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Speaker 2: It's just jam packed.

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Speaker 1: And because visually it's also so different, so much to

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Speaker 1: the Playboy Mansion also in those crazy, crazy outfits. And

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Speaker 3: Relieved, you do, and she gets to smoke inside her

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the real stuff in her apartment because she's like,

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Speaker 1: Right, that's important, that's important, And I mean I get

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Speaker 1: people watching and us getting nominated for stuff. And the

444
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,640
Speaker 1: first time we went to the Golden Globes when we won,

445
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we were like, what you know, Michael's got

446
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,119
Speaker 1: like a full curly afro.

447
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 3: It's so irish thro totally.

448
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 2: It's like the cutest thing in the world.

449
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 3: But we did not know what we were doing.

450
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,919
Speaker 2: Like, we didn't have stylists.

451
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 1: I don't think I went to Richard Tyler and tried

452
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 1: on dresses that were like in the window.

453
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, they were so nice to me. He was

454
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,679
Speaker 2: so nice to me.

455
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: But there was another woman at the first Golden Globes

456
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: that we went to wearing my same dress. Because it

457
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 1: was in the window. It was like anyone could walk.

458
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 2: In there and buy it, you know what I mean.

459
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 2: We didn't know what we were doing.

460
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 1: At all at all, but that's amazing. I think back

461
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 1: to just the innocence, you know, like it's kind of fun,

462
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 1: it's adorable. It's adorable. I mean, yes, things could go wrong,

463
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 1: but also it was sweet. It was like sweet time,

464
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: happy and innocent and shocked, you know by it all

465
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 1: shocked shocked. But I think also the writers were going

466
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: through that, which is why they're writing this, because we'd

467
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 1: I think our first Golden Globe for the season or

468
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 1: during the season or sometime soon around I don't know,

469
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: I should I should figure these dates out, but you know,

470
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 1: sometime around now, right and it was rushing that day,

471
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 1: so like, I have terrible, terrible hair. That first time

472
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 1: I won the Golden Glover, had terrible hair. Oh you're

473
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 1: so sweet. Your hair has never looked at You're so sweet.

474
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: I think, like pretty bad.

475
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then let's talk about Charlotte for a second,

476
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 1: because this is one of those scenes. There are occasionally

477
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 1: times where I'm looking back and I'm like, yeah, I

478
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: don't think I did great in that scene. When I so,

479
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: I come, I'm very hard on myself. I know.

480
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: So I'm still in New York. I did love. I

481
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,479
Speaker 2: did love that.

482
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 1: We see the scene of Trey and I where I'm

483
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: all dressed up and I say like, how did I do?

484
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: And he says, you did great and everything's beautiful and

485
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: so perfect. And then I'm like, you know, I have

486
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: an idea, doctor or whatever I say, and then he's like.

487
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm going to go on a run.

488
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: And I say maybe we should think about biogra and

489
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: he's like, don't you know it's dangerous and heart problems

490
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 1: run in my family, and then he goes out to run.

491
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 3: It's like so sad. It is sad, and I didn't

492
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 3: know that Viagro is bad for him men's heart.

493
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. We should probably research.

494
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 3: We should research that, yeah, because my husband was like,

495
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: it's not by Yeah.

496
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: I think it was new.

497
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: I think at the time it was relatively new, which

498
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: is also like it was hysterical to think about, right,

499
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, because we do that another episode. Isn't

500
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: it wild to think about like we do another episode

501
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: where were talking about viagraph for women, like women take viagra,

502
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: Kim Samantha gets into viagra. It was new and exciting

503
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 1: and different, and I don't think anyone knew really right.

504
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: But I also think the tray is just trying to

505
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: make excuses because he doesn't want to deal with those problems,

506
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: which is of course why the relationship.

507
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: But you handled that scene beautifully that way.

508
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: That one's okay, you were coming that.

509
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

510
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,719
Speaker 2: I like that scene. I like that scene.

511
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: But then so then I leave and I surprised Carrie

512
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: at the door for hotel, which is so funny, and

513
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: she's like, you could have just called me. It's kind

514
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: of funny and adorable. But Carrie's the only one who

515
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 1: knows at that point about the problems because I told

516
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: her at the wedding under my veil, right, Trey can't

517
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: get it up. The scene I didn't love myself in

518
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: is the on basically our coffee shop in La where

519
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: I just suddenly blurt out to everybody that we've never

520
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: had sex.

521
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 3: And you're like, my marriage is a fake fantabia.

522
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: Right.

523
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: I don't love that. I don't love my performance. Well,

524
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 3: I will say that you delivered that line. That is

525
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: a very hard line, thank you my marriage.

526
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: I didn't love it.

527
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: I didn't love the line, and I didn't love my line.

528
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 3: I didn't love the line, but I loved your delivery.

529
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Jennifer. That's very nice.

530
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: That's a very great as.

531
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: Oh you're so.

532
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: Sweet, thank you.

533
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: I just it's one of those ones too, where like

534
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: there's certain things that Charlotte does repetitively, right, and one

535
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: of them is like to blurt things out emotionally kind

536
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: of And it's hard then when I look at it now,

537
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: like I see the challenges and that they have me

538
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: doing kind of similar things, and so how do you

539
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: make that different? And I don't know that I was

540
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: smart enough to think about that then, right, Yes, you were, Okay.

541
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 3: You inherently did it perfectly sweet. You're Charlotte.

542
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: It's like perfection, Thank you so much.

543
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: That is weird on a television show. They're like, she

544
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: does this, so we're gonna write that a million times.

545
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I mean that I wouldn't say that

546
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: our writers really went too far, but I do think

547
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: that they thought that each character had their lane right,

548
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: and so like, for a while, they would say to me, like,

549
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, Charlotte doesn't get angry, and I'd be like,

550
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: that's so crazy, you guys, she has to get angry,

551
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, But they like they just had their ideas right.

552
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: But you got angry in your Charlotte.

553
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: Way I did.

554
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 3: It wasn't like it wasn't like a real like it

555
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: was like a positive sweet anger.

556
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean, for a while, we're gonna get to a

557
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: point where I actually get to get really angry.

558
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: I don't know when it's coming, but it's coming.

559
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: It's coming. I mean, certainly by the first movie. Maybe

560
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: that was the first time, I don't know, but they

561
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: let me get really angry in the worst movie, thank.

562
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: And that was smart, was right, right.

563
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: So Charlotte shows up in La so excited because she

564
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: can just pretend she's single, I guess you know what

565
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like at the at the Playboy mansion and

566
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: then she tells them it's a fake Fendy And then

567
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: I think, sam this is so funny in this scene

568
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: where she's just like, you've never had sex that she

569
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: just keeps saying it, and I mean, yes, it is crazy,

570
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: like I married this guy and I have never had

571
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: sex with him.

572
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: It so happens a lot.

573
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 3: Do you think, yeah?

574
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: What?

575
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 3: And I think Samantha's just saying that because all she

576
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: can think about is sex.

577
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean, for sure, but I also think, I think

578
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: for a grown woman who obviously I mean, I also

579
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: understand Charlotte has her fantasies, and Charlotte really is trying

580
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: to make life fit into her fantasies. And as we know,

581
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: that's not really going to work, right, But she's giving

582
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: it everything she's got. You know, she's going to try

583
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: as hard as she could possibly try. Doesn't work because

584
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: that's just not how life goes. You know, you can't

585
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: like will it to be you know exactly how you

586
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: want it. You have to deal with who's really in

587
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: front of you, right, And he's complicated, And I think

588
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: the sad thing for me, which we're starting to see

589
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: and we're going to see more of. Is the problem

590
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: is that he doesn't want to deal with it, right, that's.

591
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: The real problem.

592
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: He's so waspy, he's so waspy and shut down, and

593
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: she's sad. Yeah, but he's just so gorgeous and he's

594
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: Kyle comic Blackland dreaming, so beyond dreaming. I was lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky,

595
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: lucky lucky. But it's sad to watch the storyline, and

596
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the storyline I don't remember either because

597
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: I just remember Kyle, you know, I remember working together.

598
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: I don't remember that Paige heft it all.

599
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it was hard on Killer. He was

600
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: the biggest herd on Kill. No, of course, and she

601
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 4: I get that. I get that you have like a

602
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: weird relationship with your mother. It's hard to somehow then

603
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: be just like great with your wife or your girlfriend

604
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: or whatever.

605
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I get that. But still

606
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: it's interesting. But also Franny was a love so it's

607
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: hard to remember what's on screen. Francis Sternhagen an amazing,

608
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: amazing woman. Okay, so Charlotte comes then she's just like

609
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be you know, like I'm single with the

610
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: girls in La and then we end up at the

611
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: Playboy mansion. I'm talking to this duty in who's supposedly

612
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: an art collector. Literally has nothing interesting to say. It

613
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: comes from nowhere. I know, there's no explanation.

614
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: No, I'm just there laying on the rocks. I'm like,

615
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: what's happening.

616
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: I have zero memory, okay, like literally nothing like almost negative, nothing.

617
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: Like maybe it was my double ganger there.

618
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, interesting right, interesting or it's just six

619
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: am or whatever before the sun comes up. I have

620
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: no idea. But I'm just there giggling, drinking like a fool.

621
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: And then he says, you know, let me do something

622
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: for you, let me buy you some boobs. And I'm like,

623
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't need any boobs, and I get up and leave,

624
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: which is pretty funny.

625
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: It's pretty funny and very La.

626
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: Of the moment.

627
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: It's so back that that's right, Yeah, I mean the

628
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: boobs were everywhere. I'm gonna buy you some boobs.

629
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the boobs were just like I mean, yeah, it's

630
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: so crazy to think, how like brainwashed you get.

631
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: Yes, it is, And at that time I think we

632
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 3: were all still a little bit brainwashed.

633
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

634
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't think there was There wasn't social

635
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: media yet, right, so there wasn't really you just thought

636
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: that you have to be like the models or like

637
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: whatever the thing is you know that put out there,

638
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: and so all of us that were trying to act,

639
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: we're just trying to fit in to what we thought

640
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: they wanted from us exactly.

641
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: It was very hard.

642
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 3: But then you're on the show where you're actually playing

643
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: the parts of the men, like the parts that the

644
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: men would have gotten. So I mean it's incredible, yes,

645
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: so much.

646
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: Definitely, But we still had to fit in the clothes.

647
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I'm saying, And you still had.

648
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: To go to photo shoots where they were only sample

649
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: sizes and back then they didn't cut for any hips

650
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: or butt or thighs or anything, which is straight okay,

651
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Like there I would be on whole photo shoots were

652
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: not one single thing fit me, not one single thing.

653
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: Like the stress was so intense, you know. So sometimes

654
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: I would just bring a bag of my clothes like basics,

655
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: like black pants or whatever.

656
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: I would hide it until I needed it.

657
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: That's so smart, Well, because I mean.

658
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like there's literally nothing, there's nothing on

659
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: the rack that when it.

660
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: Embarrass fitting horrible. I hate fittings horrible of any kind.

661
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I love fittings if they're with our people, right,

662
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: because you're at home. They make it fun. They obviously

663
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: know your body. But sometimes when you're going to other

664
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: fittings where you don't know.

665
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 3: The people, it's scary.

666
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: It's still scary.

667
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: And this is after thirty plus years of me doing.

668
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: It, interesting, isn't it. I feel the same way, right, Yeah.

669
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: It's a it's just a difficult and awkward thing. And

670
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: I think like from the outside it seems glamorous and amazing,

671
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: and there's part of it that is right that you

672
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: even get to go to Armani or whatever it is

673
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: right and hopefully there's some nice person there. Like my

674
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: stylist now at this point in time, was one of

675
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: the you know, personal stylists at Oarmaney who would dress

676
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: us well.

677
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: I have to say your clothes on Sex and the

678
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: City were the best I think. I mean I loved

679
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: all of them, but I mean your style and the

680
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: way you wore.

681
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Them, thank you. That's my fake.

682
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: It developed over time, you know it really did. It

683
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: developed over time, and it took a while for Pat

684
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 1: and I to kind of figure out like a commonality, right,

685
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: because Pat came from her kind of alternative fashion world,

686
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: which was amazing and really valid and really changed television.

687
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: That we got to have her and have her put

688
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: a twist on it all. But I didn't necessarily fit

689
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: into that, right, And part of it was that I

690
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: didn't think Charlotte fit into that, you know what I'm saying, right,

691
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: But Pat felt like the way Upper East Side Lady's

692
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: dress was boring, which I totally understand, so she wanted

693
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: to twist it. But then also I just had a

694
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: body that like there was at that point in time

695
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: ten inches difference between my waist and my hips. Pat

696
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: did not understand that. She would just be like, what

697
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: is that?

698
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, Pat, I just run and run and run,

699
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: and then I.

700
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Currently hike and then and then I go to the

701
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: gym and then I mean.

702
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, And I don't know what

703
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: to do with that.

704
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this went on, you know, on and on,

705
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: and then the movie came out Secretary with Maggie gillenhok Oh,

706
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: and she you remember that movie, It was like sexy,

707
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: kind of light snm and she's wearing like pussy bow

708
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: tops and tight skirts, and the sexy secretary became very

709
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: in and Pat.

710
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: Was like sexy secretary and I was.

711
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Like, yes, thank God, yes, let's do that.

712
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: It's so great.

713
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: But we hadn't found it yet here at this point

714
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: in time.

715
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 3: No, it was kind of the only one who really

716
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: had established her.

717
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: Look was Carrie very much.

718
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: And I mean Sarah and Pat were very on the

719
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: same page. But I also think, like when I've been

720
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: watching the show, I mean, I would say Samantha also

721
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: because she's very like there was some past episodes like

722
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: she comes to my house one time, she's drunk and

723
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: she's wearing very sexy lingerie with a fur coat out

724
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: on the street on Central Park on Fifth Avenue. I

725
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: get Central Park West, Central Park West, that's where Charlotte

726
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: lived then, Like, I mean, iconic, iconic Samantha very much.

727
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: There she goes to the firehouse. Do you remember in

728
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: that her boys dress that's already happened. She puts on

729
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: the fireman things. Samantha also pretty much from the get go,

730
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: was pretty vividly created, you know. And Miranda, I think too,

731
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: because the suits, right, Like, do you remember all her

732
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of slightly nineties power suit situation.

733
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: All of that was there from the beginning.

734
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: And I mean I did have softness, I had like

735
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: flowers and prints and things, but we hadn't gotten the

736
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: full the full. But I love like when I see

737
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: this episode, I love everything Charlotte's wearing.

738
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

739
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was working. It was working.

740
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: We're just not quite gelled yet, you know what I mean.

741
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Are there any other things that you remember that we

742
00:31:59,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: didn't touch?

743
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like we did it. I'm

744
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: just so happy to be here. I mean, and that

745
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: episode was so much fun.

746
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: It's so great.

747
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: I recommend people watch it right now.

748
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I recommend we go rewatch it too. I mean that's

749
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: how I felt when I ended it. And the other

750
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: thing that I think is really interesting.

751
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: And I've been thinking about this.

752
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen Hated Rivalry.

753
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: Yes, dude, do you love it? I love it?

754
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: Isn't it incredible?

755
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: I love it. It's amazing.

756
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking about butts are so tight. Those butts

757
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: are something for sure, for sure.

758
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's one thing and has going for it

759
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: has many things going for Hannah has not watched it.

760
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: We have to ask her later.

761
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: But one of the things I'm mulling over all the

762
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: reasons that it's this huge phenomenon, and I have many theories,

763
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: and many people have many theories. And I saw Estra

764
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: parrel Do you know Estra Parrella wonderful therapist? She was

765
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: on Instagram, I think yesterday talking about how it's a

766
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: corrective experience watching it because as you're watching it for interests,

767
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: if you think about that press conference early on where

768
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: Hudson's character doesn't know what to say, I'm now switched

769
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: to the real people because you know they're all infiltrating

770
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: our brain at all times. He doesn't know what to say,

771
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: and then Ilia the Connor's character speaks up for him.

772
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Like then when he in the end, you know, confesses

773
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: to his mom the truth and she says, what did

774
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: I do wrong that you couldn't tell me? Like it's

775
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: like everything you would dream of people saying. They say

776
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: they do, like it's like a healing experience to exactly exactly,

777
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of right. But isn't that kind of amazing?

778
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: Why?

779
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: I think it's why people have such an emotional connection

780
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: to it. But I also feel and I was thinking

781
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: about that versus our show, because one of the things

782
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: that the first show and definitely the second show did

783
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: was show all the crazy, kind of bad, embarrassing things

784
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: that could happen to you, right, and that you were

785
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: going to be okay.

786
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

787
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: That you were gonna be okay, You were going to

788
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: go tell your girlfriends about it, and all of you

789
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: were going to laugh.

790
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

791
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: Like it might feel so embarrassing at the time, right,

792
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: And like there would be different ones of us over time,

793
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: of the actors who would be like, oh, they embarrassed

794
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: my character the most.

795
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: No, they embarrassed my character the most.

796
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: They embarrassed your character the most. In the movie.

797
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: It's so true, Okay, so true.

798
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: And I tell Michael Patrick this, it.

799
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Has happened to Yes, that's what Michael Patrick said at

800
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, yes, many embarrassing things happened. But

801
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you were to ask any of us,

802
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: they you could go down the list of Miranda's embarrassing things,

803
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: like she vomits on someone she's having sex with.

804
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember this?

805
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot there's a lot for everybody,

806
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? But that was kind

807
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: of the point.

808
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 3: It's so therapeutic.

809
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: Wait, it's therapeutic, but in it a different way. Yeah,

810
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: not in a corrective way, like and I think, obviously

811
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: this is twenty twenty five.

812
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: We need wait it's twenty twenty six.

813
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: Oh that was scared.

814
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: I keeps saying twenty six.

815
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: I know, right, we need we need healing, Like the

816
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: world is a really big wreck. Right back in two thousand,

817
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: the world wasn't this much of a yet either, Like

818
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: it was a different time.

819
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: Do mean no, not at all.

820
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: And I think there's something also to be said about

821
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: collectively enjoying media and storytelling, right, which back in the day,

822
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, in the beginning, not everyone had HBO, So

823
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: it was that this thing, like, you know, can I

824
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: go to someone's house and watch HBO? Can I go

825
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: to a party and watch watch the show?

826
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 4: Right?

827
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Because people wanted to do it together. And I think

828
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: that's what's happening with heated rivalry, where you can go

829
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: to bars and people are watching or people are rewatching,

830
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: rewatching and then conversing on social media about it to

831
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: connect that we write that right now, we really need

832
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: that exactly exactly, and I think it's the power of

833
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: good storytelling.

834
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and something that's open and honest. I don't know,

835
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: Like with Sex and the City, it was like I

836
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, for women, it was like

837
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: what you were doing is like what we were going

838
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: through and like, oh, I feel okay to like sex

839
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: and I feel all right, you know. Definitely is a confidence, definitely,

840
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: and that's what we wanted. That's what we wanted to do.

841
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: I need to do totally.

842
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: But I think the thing about Heated Rivalry which is

843
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: interesting is the women watching Heated Rivalry as an antedote

844
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: to toxic masculinity, right, Like, there's so many interesting cultural

845
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: elements of heated rivalry and the success of heated rivalry.

846
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: And I was talking to a friend who was I

847
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: was talking to I don't know if I should say

848
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone yesterday.

849
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to name.

850
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I can't even remember what I was going

851
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: to say because I was talking to someone yesterday who's

852
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: super knowledgeable about the business, who's a producer now, who

853
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: used to be at HBO. And I was saying to her,

854
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's so amazing that Jacob Tierney, who did

855
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Heated Rivalry.

856
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, no, not all Brick. We married the names.

857
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: They're definitely not married. Carolyn Strouss. I was talking to

858
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: Carolyn stress very good, Jennifer read my men. She's very smart,

859
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: and we were talking about the success of Heated Rivalry,

860
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: and she was saying, I said, you know, it's so

861
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: hard because first of all, right now in our business,

862
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: no one's green lighting anything really because our business is

863
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: upside down. Yeah, it's really sad and scary, scary for everyone,

864
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: scary for every one of all layers of our business.

865
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: But also we were talking about budgets and choices and fear. Right,

866
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: So I was saying, I feel like there's so much

867
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: fear now about you know, what to do, what not

868
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: to do? You know, don't offend anyone. Like everyone just

869
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: can't function.

870
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: We're going to have nothing exactly less because like we're

871
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: putting out nothing, you know.

872
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: I do know, But I also feel and I feel

873
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: like Heated Rivalry is a really, really good example. So

874
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: they had it set up at a big streamer hair

875
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't know which one. It was, not on HBO Max,

876
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, and they were giving them a bunch

877
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: of notes. And they told them because it was from

878
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: the book, right, and they told them Francois has been

879
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: out in the world saying this. They told them no

880
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: kissing till episode five.

881
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Speaker 3: What I know, it.

882
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Speaker 2: Would have been horrible.

883
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: So whoever it was was like, you know, totally and

884
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: a gut gut the insides of what it was.

885
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Speaker 2: Right.

886
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: So Jacob Tierney, the showrunner, the incredibly brilliant Jacob Tierney said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we can't do this. I'm going to

888
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: take it back to Canada. I'm going to go to

889
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: Crave TV or whatever the app is called Crave, Crave

890
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: just Crave.

891
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Crave. They're not going to

892
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: give us so much notes.

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Speaker 1: He also basically didn't have a budget, right, Like they

894
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: made it for almost in thirty six days, right, but

895
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: look at how incredible it is. But that's because the

896
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: budget wasn't very high, so people weren't very scared, and

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Speaker 1: he was very smart and he could do what he

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Speaker 1: wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: And this is what it takes.

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Speaker 3: Sex and the City. You you didn't have like a

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00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: lot of notes for me.

902
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: We had no notes. That's what I was talking about.

903
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Speaker 3: That's why it's so good.

904
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Speaker 2: That's true. But we and we had felt.

905
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Speaker 3: Like, you know, Larry David kicked them.

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Speaker 1: Out of the right because they try and they.

907
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: Didn't have notes. But those notes are so destructive, they're horrible.

908
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

909
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: She she has to give me this sign because I'll

910
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Speaker 1: talk forever.

911
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 2: So I have a super burning, burning question. Yes, are

912
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Speaker 2: you a Charlotte?

913
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a good question. I wish I

914
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: was a Charlotte. I'm a Carrie.

915
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Are you sure?

916
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure? Just because I grew up on the

917
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: Lower East Side of It having as like her, I

918
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: was very like free spirited. I wish I was a Charlotte.

919
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: I love feeling like you kind of are.

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00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 3: I'm kind of Charlotte. Okay, okay, I'm Charlotte in many ways.

921
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Speaker 3: I'm a combo.

922
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Speaker 1: I'm a combo too of Carrie.

923
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Speaker 3: Charotte, you are too.

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00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: When I saw you playing Charlotte, I was like, I

926
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Speaker 3: know her. I was like, she's doing a really good

927
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Speaker 3: job because she's not really Charlotte.

928
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Speaker 1: Thank you. That's everyone in the world who doesn't know

929
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Speaker 1: me thinks that I'm really not acting because I am Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: They don't know you just did it so well.

931
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I never thought of you as a Charlotte Tiger because

933
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Speaker 3: my regular life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think that the thing that you

935
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: is interesting about acting is that part of what you

936
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Speaker 1: respond to is like energetic of people, right, So I

937
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: think the energetics of Charlotte, Like you have the same

938
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Speaker 1: energetics as Charlotte and myself, which is like friendly, warm,

939
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Speaker 1: enthusiastic cheerleader, you know, the total limits, right, And that's

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Speaker 1: who Charlotte is in the foursome, you know, like that's

941
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Speaker 1: an important kind of energetic beat that she provides. Say

942
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Speaker 1: so free spirit I am. I am not at all

943
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Speaker 1: like Charlotte.

944
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Speaker 3: You're not like planning things out at all and you're.

945
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Speaker 1: I'm not You're really back in the old days, you

946
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Speaker 1: would say like where are you going to be in

947
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Speaker 1: five years, ten years, twenty years?

948
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Speaker 2: And I would just be like what just so from

949
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Speaker 2: alive totally.

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Speaker 1: I remember such a like everyone would just be like,

951
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Speaker 1: that's the question. You have to make a plan, And

952
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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, what, people are crazy?

954
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Speaker 1: Like I'm definitely much more hippy than Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: You are, and you're you're all like I don't know,

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Speaker 3: you're very spiritual and lovely love and.

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00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: You're a lovely person too. Thank you for joining. Thank

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00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 2: you so much.

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Speaker 3: It was so much fun and such good memories.

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Speaker 2: I'm so impressed.