Speaker 1: Now. Of course, when I was back as a kid,
Speaker 1: I spoke like this because that was that was the
Speaker 1: Western time until I came on the office and I
Speaker 1: realized I better get a different kind of voice to
Speaker 1: to relay myself to these people here like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was I was told I was a cowboy
Speaker 1: up up to the office. Basically just dropped dropped the
Speaker 1: twig like that. Actually, this is gonna lead me in.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play a little game later on. But it
Speaker 1: relates to what he just said, which I know is well,
Speaker 1: it's maybe not true. It's bullshit. Hi, I'm Creed Bratton
Speaker 1: and I played Creed Bratton on the Office. I'm also
Speaker 1: a lot of different names to creditors, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into that right now. Oh boy, folks,
Speaker 1: strap on your hats. It's gonna be a Wendy one today.
Speaker 1: It's me Brian Gardner, your host, here for a spanking
Speaker 1: new episode of Off the Beat. Today. As you just heard,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing back the one and only Creed Bratton, or
Speaker 1: as you might know him, Creed Bratton from the Office,
Speaker 1: or maybe you know him as Crypto Creed straight from
Speaker 1: the Metaverse. We're going to talk about that and so
Speaker 1: much more. I thought it was about time that we
Speaker 1: dug a little deeper into this man, the man behind
Speaker 1: the myth. I mean, who is Creed Bratton? What has
Speaker 1: he done? What hasn't he done? Actually is more accurate.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to the bottom of that. Well.
Speaker 1: For the most part, Creed has lived a thousand lives,
Speaker 1: and he has lived them all. Well, let me just
Speaker 1: say that. So we're gonna go all the way back
Speaker 1: to his early days being surrounded by creativity and music
Speaker 1: here in sunny California. But we're also going to talk
Speaker 1: about the time when he woke up covered in well
Speaker 1: in bird poop and being attacked by wild dogs. There
Speaker 1: was maybe two separate events. It's very hard to keep track. Also,
Speaker 1: we're going to play a new game, my favorite new game,
Speaker 1: Creed Bratton fact or fiction. He'll let us know. I
Speaker 1: think he'll be surprised by some of the answers here.
Speaker 1: He is a true joy, an American treasure, and a
Speaker 1: great friend of mine. That's right, Creed Bratton. Here he
Speaker 1: is for your listening to light, Bubble and Squeak. I
Speaker 1: love it, Bubble and squeak, Bubble and Squeaker, cookie every
Speaker 1: month left over from the nat Pole. There he is.
Speaker 1: What's happening? What's up, Bra? How's it going? Good? Good?
Speaker 1: Good to see you. Man. Now wait a second, now,
Speaker 1: wait a second, familiar, I'm at your studio. I mean
Speaker 1: you're You're in my studio and I'm not there. This
Speaker 1: doesn't seem right. Yeah, it's it's okay, though, it's okay.
Speaker 1: That's not it's weird. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? What are you doing in my chair?
Speaker 1: Don't adjust my chair. I'm not adjusting your chair. I
Speaker 1: may be leaving a little little skid marks, though. You know,
Speaker 1: why are we going there immediately? Why would I go
Speaker 1: there right off the bat? Save that for later for
Speaker 1: the dessert dessert line. Uh, it's so good to see you,
Speaker 1: even though to see you and I'm in your space.
Speaker 1: Get over it, just get over all right, It's all right, okay, good.
Speaker 1: I saw that you just burned yourself on the internet.
Speaker 1: Did you see that. That's pretty funny. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that. I'm very excited to talk about that and
Speaker 1: how you felt that the dummy resembled you or not.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a doppelganger, actually doppelganger. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks very similar. I thought. Did you know it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be completely off? You know, that's the idea.
Speaker 1: That's just the hilarity of it. You know, Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that. But you know, we we
Speaker 1: talked on the earlier podcast, The Office Deep Dive about
Speaker 1: William Charles Schneider Sneer, Yes, Schneider, But I wanted to
Speaker 1: go a little more in depth to start out back
Speaker 1: to your your childhood. You were born in California, right,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Los Angeles. How do you think that that
Speaker 1: affected your growth or development being a California boy. No,
Speaker 1: like anything else, it's a it's a car culture. It's
Speaker 1: show business, Ellie. But but that's that's being said. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was two years old when I left. We went
Speaker 1: up to course school, California below Yosemite. So I grew
Speaker 1: up in a little town of three hundred people. I
Speaker 1: had a horse and there's a thousand acres I rode
Speaker 1: around on. I went fishing and had had one of
Speaker 1: those cowboy lifes, you know. I went four and at
Speaker 1: four hour, two hours to school, two hours back on
Speaker 1: a bus for four years. Really get The only school
Speaker 1: that was up there they had to get to was
Speaker 1: run by Edison company called Sierra Joint Union High School.
Speaker 1: So we traveled two hours there and we were exhausted,
Speaker 1: and we go to school and uh then bring him home.
Speaker 1: It was always dark when I got off the bus,
Speaker 1: Come home and have dinner, go to bed, and go
Speaker 1: back to school the next day. Wow. Now you say
Speaker 1: the school was California Edison. Now was that because of worker?
Speaker 1: Did they start to school because of workers that were
Speaker 1: because exactly right, Brian, they had workers who were building
Speaker 1: the Edison damn, the damns and stuff like that up
Speaker 1: in that area. And so we had a lot of money.
Speaker 1: That school had a lot of it. We had always
Speaker 1: brand new uniforms for sports of really great pools and auditoriums,
Speaker 1: all new band uniforms, brand new instruments, which it was.
Speaker 1: Everything was provided. When they'd sit there and you look
Speaker 1: out your window, there'd be a deer or rabbit, you know, somebody.
Speaker 1: You see a fox running across the lawn right outside
Speaker 1: the school. It was pretty pretty amazing. Yeah. Wow, And
Speaker 1: so did you this is not a joke. Did you
Speaker 1: live like a cowboy life like wilderness e or I
Speaker 1: mean you said you rode horses and we had a
Speaker 1: little ranch and the people up there were we had
Speaker 1: cowboy hats. Now, of course, when I was back as
Speaker 1: a kid, I spoke like this because that was that
Speaker 1: was the Western time. Until I came on the office
Speaker 1: and I realized I better get a different kind of
Speaker 1: voice to to relay myself to these people here like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was. I was told I was a cowboy
Speaker 1: up to up to the office basically just dropped dropped
Speaker 1: the twang like that. Actually this is gonna lead me in.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play a little game later on. But it
Speaker 1: relates to what he just said, which I know is
Speaker 1: well it's maybe not true. Ship now you you you
Speaker 1: you stuttered as a child, I did, Oh, yeah, big time.
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was traumatized as a child.
Speaker 1: I don't go we don't need to go in that.
Speaker 1: My therapist needs. That's her work to do. But I
Speaker 1: stuttered so bad at one time. I can remember the moment.
Speaker 1: The answer was Kit Carson, and I looked around and
Speaker 1: because she said, anybody the name of this name name
Speaker 1: got it looked at nobody put the hand and went.
Speaker 1: I knew what it was, you know, being sharp. So
Speaker 1: I went and I said, yeah, chuck. She said, Chucky, chucky,
Speaker 1: she said, And I went, and it's it's not. It's funny,
Speaker 1: but it's not. Because I was crying, was traumatized. I
Speaker 1: couldn't talk, and I just got up and they pulled
Speaker 1: me out of class and I was out of school.
Speaker 1: And they finally got it at somebody to come by
Speaker 1: the school because they could afford to. And she had
Speaker 1: me in class by just me and her, and she
Speaker 1: talked and she had me attempt to stutter. She says,
Speaker 1: try to stutter, And so I went through the mechanisms
Speaker 1: of trying to emulate what I thought I sounded like.
Speaker 1: Within a week, I was over it. And that time
Speaker 1: I meet people like Andy Green, the guy that who
Speaker 1: did the one of the office books. You know, he's
Speaker 1: a stutter, and I talked. I discussed this with him
Speaker 1: quite a bit too. You know. Um, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: your mind is moving too fast for you, or you
Speaker 1: are just basically I think it was traumatized as a child,
Speaker 1: and you're you're you're afraid to to articulate because you're
Speaker 1: going to get repercussions from from speaking your mind. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it is that makes it gives you funny too. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: how how old were you at this time? I was, gosh,
Speaker 1: probably eight nine in there in that something I get,
Speaker 1: it's all. It's hard for me remember that stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and occasionally I would be on doing film or something
Speaker 1: like that. It hasn't happened in a long time, but
Speaker 1: once in a while I will see, I will see
Speaker 1: coming about three lines away, possible world word that I
Speaker 1: will stutter on, and so I will try to already
Speaker 1: start correcting the word I was thinking about to get
Speaker 1: to another statement, so I don't have to stutter. So
Speaker 1: that that always keeps you on your toes mentally interesting. Wow,
Speaker 1: so you're what did your parents do? My mom was
Speaker 1: a housewife. My father, who was a lieutenant colonel in
Speaker 1: the Air Force. He died when I was two, but
Speaker 1: my mother remarried and she married a guy who was
Speaker 1: a grocer, ran a managed a grocery store. She ended
Speaker 1: up working for for a post office up there, so
Speaker 1: she worked for the post office. He ran a grocery
Speaker 1: store right in. Your grandfather was was an art director.
Speaker 1: Is that my grandfather on my father's side was Gustaf
Speaker 1: Adolf Schneider, And according to what I've told, I can't
Speaker 1: seem to find the record on it, but everybody that
Speaker 1: I've ever talked to says he was the art director
Speaker 1: for Douglas Fairbacks Jr. I think Sinbad was one of
Speaker 1: those who a pirate movie one of the one of
Speaker 1: the big movies that he did, and he invented. Remember, Brian,
Speaker 1: if you've ever seen those old um silent films, we
Speaker 1: see the background the fences go and the scenery goes
Speaker 1: back in the background, rolling like goes it goes around
Speaker 1: like this out of roller. That's that's with his bit.
Speaker 1: That's what the thing that he came up with, you know,
Speaker 1: That's what I was doing. Can't finding documentation the revolvement said,
Speaker 1: but I've heard they told me that since of a
Speaker 1: little kid. So I'm gonna go with that, because why
Speaker 1: would they tell me that if they were just making
Speaker 1: up to impress a five year old kid. I don't
Speaker 1: know why would they do that. I'm not thinking to
Speaker 1: be impressed with it anyway, you know, right, So you
Speaker 1: left l A when you were to not were you
Speaker 1: close with your with your grandfather. I mean, did you
Speaker 1: did you feel No? No, I didn't even know him,
Speaker 1: and I didn't in my on my mother's side, that grandfather,
Speaker 1: he was kind of a taciturn individual. So he showed
Speaker 1: me how to play guitar. But it wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of there were a lot of warmth, let's say, as
Speaker 1: a child. Yeah, so you weren't in the entertainment industry
Speaker 1: at all. Your family had no, No, my grandparents had
Speaker 1: a semi My grandparents, Dot and Charles had a semi
Speaker 1: professional band called the Happy Timers in Long Beach, and
Speaker 1: when I come down for the summer, it's been with them.
Speaker 1: I'd see them do gigs and stuff, and I watched
Speaker 1: them rehearse and stuff. So I heard all the Hank
Speaker 1: Williams and the you know, the Texas playboys and people
Speaker 1: like that. And I grew up on that Western Swing.
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of Western Swing when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, and he showed me my first chords on
Speaker 1: a guitar. But of course I played trumpet since I
Speaker 1: was a young young age and until up till I
Speaker 1: went to college. But I think after my last my
Speaker 1: senior year in high school, I stopped playing trumpet and
Speaker 1: picked up a guitar. I've been I've been playing both
Speaker 1: for a quarter a while. That time this was I
Speaker 1: was eighteen, I still playing trumpet. So I started when
Speaker 1: I was thirteen seventeen. I started working professionally up at
Speaker 1: this place called the Falls with this group called the
Speaker 1: tor Case and we would do you know, oh Donna,
Speaker 1: Donna and Vicky Vallens and uh Ruby and the Originals
Speaker 1: and you know things like that. We do all the stands.
Speaker 1: See a minor F and G. That's all that. That's
Speaker 1: basically all there was in the fifties. That's all you
Speaker 1: had to know those four chords? What was it? What
Speaker 1: are the four chords? C, A minor F and G. Bye, Brian,
Speaker 1: Do you get your guitar see a minor F and
Speaker 1: G in variations that will get you through the fifties? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not as I'm not as skilled as you see an,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't any musician out there and go,
Speaker 1: but they know what attracted you to music? Then? Was
Speaker 1: it that experience or watching your grandparents do shows or
Speaker 1: what what made you make the choice to get into music?
Speaker 1: Uh trumpet? I just I just my mother played mandolin.
Speaker 1: She was an expert, expert mandelin player. Stepdad played drums.
Speaker 1: I heard. I knew my father had heard when I
Speaker 1: when I became older enough to be cognizant of this fact.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be a very very good banjo player.
Speaker 1: And but my mother was something that she would sit
Speaker 1: there and play the man like this, and she put
Speaker 1: her head back like this and just well, I'd be
Speaker 1: sitting there going wow, but take her away. She was euphoric.
Speaker 1: It was euphoric, and I loved hearing her play that.
Speaker 1: So they started me out on tuba. You can meade
Speaker 1: this little guy play to play tuba. Hated it. Finch horn,
Speaker 1: the other reversed the tiny little thing. So I was
Speaker 1: puckering on alum or something worked out and then finally
Speaker 1: the trumpet piece, Thank you bro, you know you know.
Speaker 1: Then then the then the the mouthpiece on the trumpet
Speaker 1: fit fit right, and I like the sound. I like
Speaker 1: the brassy, brassy sound it made. But guitar, I've ordered
Speaker 1: a silver tone guitar from Sears and Robot. It came
Speaker 1: that it wasn't really wasn't a buckboard within horse. It
Speaker 1: actually was a truck that drove up this dirt road
Speaker 1: towards to the rents, and they brought it out and
Speaker 1: I took it out and I plugged the case. Was
Speaker 1: the case that came in had a speaker in it.
Speaker 1: So you take your cord, put in your guitar and
Speaker 1: you plug it into you plug your guitar case had
Speaker 1: to plug. You plug it into the wall, and then
Speaker 1: you plug your guitar chord into the case. And then
Speaker 1: I hit, I would I'd love link raise rumble, just
Speaker 1: this chord, basic thing, link, raised rumble. I hit. I
Speaker 1: turned it all the way up and hit this ecord
Speaker 1: whang and it came through and just filled my visceral area,
Speaker 1: you know that with that, just bomb hard with that
Speaker 1: and I went and that was it. I was done.
Speaker 1: That's all I wanted to do was play that guitar
Speaker 1: and hear that and have that sound because soothed calmed me,
Speaker 1: had calmed me down. It was wonderful. How old are
Speaker 1: you at this point, gosh, fourteen fifteen? Did you start
Speaker 1: taking lessons or were you No? No, I learned my ear.
Speaker 1: I would listen to records and I just sit there
Speaker 1: and listen to the records and just keep going over
Speaker 1: and over and over with everybody because there was no Google.
Speaker 1: There's nobody up there in the mountains to teach you anything.
Speaker 1: So I just I got a chord book with chords,
Speaker 1: and I listened to the thing, and I finally figured
Speaker 1: it out, you know, just song by song, and I
Speaker 1: figured and I was able to play piano. My mother
Speaker 1: had an organ in there, and I was able to
Speaker 1: sit down and go and play the blues and I
Speaker 1: started figuring. I figured out the chords. Once I got
Speaker 1: him on the guitar, I figured about on the piano,
Speaker 1: and I could sit there and play like the basic
Speaker 1: stuff on the piano too. But I'm not I write
Speaker 1: on the piano, but I'm not that fast. Look I
Speaker 1: have on guitar. Listen this is You don't seem to
Speaker 1: think that this is is strange or interesting. But in
Speaker 1: the last five minutes you've talked in terms of your family.
Speaker 1: You've talked about mandolin, drums, You had a piano lying
Speaker 1: around your parents, your grandparents were playing music that you
Speaker 1: would go and listen to. And then you pick up
Speaker 1: a guitar, and that gives you a visceral feeling. I mean,
Speaker 1: you were inundated with music from a really early age.
Speaker 1: That's that is not how I grew up. No, And
Speaker 1: I thought when I got to school, I thought that
Speaker 1: everybody knew how to play music. I didn't. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was what everybody did, that you could probably
Speaker 1: hear something and played by here by her and figure
Speaker 1: it out. But I realized that not everyone was musical.
Speaker 1: It took me a while to get get that, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I didn't think it was a big deal when
Speaker 1: I was doing it, but later on I I accept
Speaker 1: the fact that not everyone could do it. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: when did you make the decision that this was something
Speaker 1: that wasn't just a hobby, wasn't just something that gave
Speaker 1: you a good feeling, but something that you wanted to pursue,
Speaker 1: like to be a performer for a career. You know what.
Speaker 1: I have to say, It was probably my I want
Speaker 1: year wondering what year when it's with the with the
Speaker 1: Beatles on Ed Sullivan had to be. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say sixty six three something in there that I'm
Speaker 1: at Sacramento State and they're on a swim scholarship, and
Speaker 1: it was it was a drama major, That's what I was.
Speaker 1: So where I was there for and one day, I'm
Speaker 1: walking out in the quadrant and I hear screaming and
Speaker 1: I go up to the there's a sorority there and
Speaker 1: there's nobody around, and I'm becoming from from the library something.
Speaker 1: And I walked in and the doors opened, and I
Speaker 1: you know, and I just said, well, I didn't know anybody,
Speaker 1: didn't know any girls that I kind of walked in
Speaker 1: and I see all these girls around this TV and
Speaker 1: the Beatles, and they're screaming and yelling. And I walk
Speaker 1: up and I look at these girls. I look at
Speaker 1: the Beatles and I go, oh, my god. That talking
Speaker 1: about a something. You know, it's still like a gaspalt
Speaker 1: image or a paradigm shift in your consciousness. Trust me,
Speaker 1: my friend, that was the one. And I just went, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: this this is power, because you know, when you when
Speaker 1: you had girls come up to you after the after gigs,
Speaker 1: when I was like seventeen eighteen, you know, and you
Speaker 1: had your you had all the girls from l A
Speaker 1: coming up there to these little challenging you're playing guitar,
Speaker 1: It was okay. But this Beatle thing, that's a whole
Speaker 1: other level. And I think you, okay, maybe a creed
Speaker 1: needs to look into Well, I wasn't create yet. I
Speaker 1: was still Chuck. But Chuck Chuck into I was still Chuck.
Speaker 1: Chuck needs to look into this. This this this might
Speaker 1: bear appraising some some to some degree. Did you speak
Speaker 1: to Chuck in the third person like you speak to
Speaker 1: Creed and the person was that was like, I don't
Speaker 1: you know how you guys have messed me up ever
Speaker 1: since that thing? You know, it's very funny. I do.
Speaker 1: I did on I talked to talk to him about
Speaker 1: when people, So I'm talking to people, I say, it's
Speaker 1: the character or me or the actor, you know, comment
Speaker 1: in on one of the others. It gets confusing being me,
Speaker 1: you know, it is very very confusing being you keeping
Speaker 1: all the stories straight. So you pick up music because
Speaker 1: of the girls in the sorority. It's always it's always
Speaker 1: the girls, Brian and the love and by the way,
Speaker 1: the love of the music. I love music. When I'm
Speaker 1: playing guitar and I write a great a song that
Speaker 1: I really love, I'm inspired, I'm lifted up. There's a
Speaker 1: euphoria that occurs, you know, it's it still does. I'm
Speaker 1: seventy nine and I just wrote a song recently, and
Speaker 1: I got through the song and I'm just man some wonder.
Speaker 1: It's still a wonderful thing. I still don't know where
Speaker 1: they come from, how it works. They just come and
Speaker 1: you write them down. It's amazing. I've seen you have
Speaker 1: that experience songs that you know you're singing that you
Speaker 1: wrote long, long ago. But there's a euphoria that happens,
Speaker 1: something almost chemical, spiritual, that happens inside you when you
Speaker 1: get lost creating something. Well you you know it. We
Speaker 1: all all artists know this. You know, that's that's when
Speaker 1: you're it comes from outside. Saturday, I was at my
Speaker 1: granddaughter Isabella's birthday and we went bowling and then they
Speaker 1: went laser tagging. You know. So my son said, you're
Speaker 1: going to be on this team here, you know, the
Speaker 1: green team, and I'll be on the red team. And
Speaker 1: when you and the kids and to be there and stuff.
Speaker 1: So you know, with me, when I when when when
Speaker 1: I when something happens, I just you know, oh yet
Speaker 1: do the comic face with Greg Dan was always loved
Speaker 1: you know, he loves me. So when the first time
Speaker 1: I got shot, all the kids looked and they laft
Speaker 1: and they laughed and left, and I talked about the
Speaker 1: joy that gave me. Well, the red team was laughing
Speaker 1: and the Green team laughed so much my own team
Speaker 1: started shooting me just to see my my reaction. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't even let me have the recharge, and you know
Speaker 1: they kept shootings. Right, that's awesome. But you you went
Speaker 1: to school for drama, so you were interested in acting
Speaker 1: then early on, or at least, I mean I had
Speaker 1: the same the same guy that taught Tom Hanks. He
Speaker 1: went to Sacramento State and saying the same drama coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a good school. It was a good school.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a great school, but for drama, they had
Speaker 1: a really good program there. Right when did your music
Speaker 1: career start to take off? Oh? What it would be?
Speaker 1: The grassroots? I had spent with their young the Torques
Speaker 1: up there that I played bands, the Leanders to school
Speaker 1: college to make money on the weekends. And then in Europe,
Speaker 1: I was with the young Californians two years, traveling around Europe,
Speaker 1: hitching across North Africa, through the up to Romanian Bulgaria,
Speaker 1: through East Germany, all over the place too, Scandy nave
Speaker 1: I did at all? How did you traveled in Europe before? No?
Speaker 1: I just hitchhiked all over we hitch I hitchhike for
Speaker 1: two years with my guitar on my back. How was that?
Speaker 1: How so you haven't traveled. I've never been there before. Amazing,
Speaker 1: but I had. I got on a Swiss freighter and
Speaker 1: I arrived with twenty five dollars in my pocket, which
Speaker 1: was gone in a short period of time. You know,
Speaker 1: I got drunk with these locals, with my friend Mickey
Speaker 1: Miguel was there, had me brought a guitar with me.
Speaker 1: Some local hands me a guitar and I started singing
Speaker 1: that bwine comes out. We're dancing around next thing I know.
Speaker 1: And this is honest to God. This is not a criticism,
Speaker 1: honest to God, truth, Brian. I wake up the next
Speaker 1: morning in the sun set in my face and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna that that horrible taste of my mouth. And I
Speaker 1: looked down and I'm in the St. Mark's Square with
Speaker 1: pigeon ship all over my clothes, ghostly, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was Welcome to Europe. That was my
Speaker 1: first day in Venice. And uh then we hit stake
Speaker 1: up to Copenhag. It's you know, I'm gonna write, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna write my book. Rain Rylson won't let me get
Speaker 1: out of this life without doing my book, so I'll
Speaker 1: do it. But yeah, I played all over the place,
Speaker 1: and then in Israel I was working on this movie
Speaker 1: called My first film, Cast a Giant Shadow with Frank Sinatra,
Speaker 1: Youule Brenner, John Wayne All these People was a big,
Speaker 1: big movie, Mills Shabelson and we did a we we
Speaker 1: we took off from work and we did this folk
Speaker 1: festival and this guy, Warren Ittner comes back and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, you play guitar, and we should think about something.
Speaker 1: So he gave me his number, and when I got
Speaker 1: to l A, which is the first time I've been
Speaker 1: in l A except for Long Beach since I was
Speaker 1: a little kid, I called him up and within one
Speaker 1: week and one week we put a band together and
Speaker 1: playing the topless bar out in the valley and it
Speaker 1: had and this is no joke, the girl, a girl
Speaker 1: you know with totally totally paste did the worly bird thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just did the worly bird. If you can see it,
Speaker 1: you can, they can't see they just hearing right, No,
Speaker 1: they okay, But so I had the worly bird things,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm there, and the she was on
Speaker 1: a swing, so we would we'd be singing like this,
Speaker 1: and she swings, so I'd have to be the microphone.
Speaker 1: I'd go and she'd swing by, and I come back
Speaker 1: in and sing on the micro and then pull away
Speaker 1: like this when she was on this, that was that's
Speaker 1: that's welcome to the show biz. That's what that's. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's absolutely true. Now, wait, there's so much
Speaker 1: swun packer. You're traveling around Europe hitchhiking with a guitar
Speaker 1: on your back, and you end up in Israel and
Speaker 1: with two other guys we meet. There's two other guys,
Speaker 1: Greg and Lee. Okay, and there were all the young
Speaker 1: Californias were trio and worked at harmonies place. Well, we
Speaker 1: couldn't hitchhike together because no just pick us up, so
Speaker 1: we had to separate to get you know, sometimes we're
Speaker 1: like can algery. I spent two nights sleeping on the
Speaker 1: side of the road in the dirt, in my sleeping bag.
Speaker 1: You know, wild dogs attacking me. I know that's not
Speaker 1: that's not. Yes, hey, I'll take a lie detective test.
Speaker 1: Wild dogs are attacking the dirt and Algery I slept
Speaker 1: on the dirt and alger but the obolutely that's wrong.
Speaker 1: The wild dogs attacked us after a show in Libya
Speaker 1: at the Wadan Hotel. We were in Libya and we're
Speaker 1: just going and we're going to meet these people from
Speaker 1: the Mobile Oil. We're gonna take us, fly us out
Speaker 1: in the We went five hundred miles on the Sahara
Speaker 1: Desert to play for the Mobile Oil. And we're on
Speaker 1: the we're on the way after one of our shows
Speaker 1: working at this club and these wild dogs and we
Speaker 1: went back to back and we were banging using our
Speaker 1: guitarists and instruments and kicking at these wild dogs. They
Speaker 1: were attacking us. That's an honest to god truth. These
Speaker 1: are stray dogs or these are like they're stray feral
Speaker 1: dogs gadding up in. It's wild feral dogs. Wow. I
Speaker 1: would have been scared. I would been scary that because
Speaker 1: they got big power, they got big powerful jaws. Okay,
Speaker 1: but wait a second, I'm trying to paint the picture.
Speaker 1: You're getting attacked by wild dogs. You're asleep, and that's separate.
Speaker 1: That's first, as Algeria understand, I'm sleeping Algeria. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you're getting attacked by wild dogs in Libya and
Speaker 1: then you end up in Israel. But how do you
Speaker 1: end up in a Frank Sinatra movie in Israel when
Speaker 1: you're just hitch? Is this just like, hey, guys, you
Speaker 1: want to be in a show? What is happening? We
Speaker 1: went all the way across to Egypt, and I think
Speaker 1: we played for uh NASA's daughter. Nasa daughter daughters came
Speaker 1: to a TV show and she and we played. We
Speaker 1: entertained her on this TV show and I went behind
Speaker 1: the three m machines that were recording. Instead of little
Speaker 1: caps on the back of the wires, they had just
Speaker 1: they were just the wires were just stuck together professional
Speaker 1: given the wars for twist to the back, we went,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Anyway, so we got there. We went
Speaker 1: to the head. We were going all the way down
Speaker 1: to South Africa. That was our plan. We were gonna
Speaker 1: be all the way down and that would have been crazy.
Speaker 1: We've probably gotten eaten for sure by bigger animals and
Speaker 1: wild dogs. But the Congolese were running guns at the
Speaker 1: time in the Sudan at that time in nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't let us through. It wouldn't stamp our passport
Speaker 1: and let us in, so we went back and we
Speaker 1: got a boat to Bay Route. We played at this
Speaker 1: place called the kit Cat Club, which was a brothel
Speaker 1: and then the people, like the people for the Sheiks
Speaker 1: from Kuwait would come there and the white rolls royces
Speaker 1: with the gold stuff on the front, and it was
Speaker 1: a front for a for a brothel. But we play
Speaker 1: in this cabaret in front and by the way, by
Speaker 1: Rout was such a beautiful city at that time. We
Speaker 1: broke my heart when I saw the war happen to it.
Speaker 1: It was Paris on the Mediterranean. It was amazing, the
Speaker 1: coolest people, amazing food, gorgeous city. And then we went
Speaker 1: to uh Syria and then into Jordan's and then to
Speaker 1: mantelbomb Gates to go into Israel, and we came in
Speaker 1: there and we got an impresario and we started playing
Speaker 1: clubs up in town, up and down the coast of Israel,
Speaker 1: occer in places like that. So I'm body surfing one
Speaker 1: day in the Outlow Surf and I met Michael Douglas,
Speaker 1: and Michael Douglas was working there because his father was there.
Speaker 1: He was He's one of the A d s. He
Speaker 1: was like our age, you know, and we hit it
Speaker 1: off and he and I said, we're having problems now,
Speaker 1: but we can't get out of here because we won't
Speaker 1: we don't have enough money to take a boat or fly,
Speaker 1: and they won't let us go back through with with
Speaker 1: the Israeli stamp back through the Arab countries. We were stuck.
Speaker 1: And he said, wait a second, he said, let me
Speaker 1: talk to the people, and he, Michael Douglas, made it possible,
Speaker 1: his friend, because we've got became friends. So he got
Speaker 1: us working and we worked as grips and stuff we
Speaker 1: did all kinds of errands were just right for shorts,
Speaker 1: no shirts, hammers. We ran around, did all the work
Speaker 1: you could. You know. I got a picture I'll send
Speaker 1: it to you of us singing with Kirk Douglas on set. Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you were working as a as grips and doing
Speaker 1: basically doing any kind of base on odd jobs on
Speaker 1: this movie just to make money, yea, so that you
Speaker 1: could get out of Israel, so we could get out
Speaker 1: of Israel. And that worked. You got out clearly at
Speaker 1: some point, obviously clearly clearly, right, Yeah, so what you
Speaker 1: ended up taking a boat to wear? Well, I this
Speaker 1: is pretty long, dog. I gotta I gotta write this book. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I fell in love with the director's daughter, Mel Shield's
Speaker 1: daughter Lynn, So we went off to the Greek Islands.
Speaker 1: We went to Rhodes and crete and uh uh, and
Speaker 1: we stayed back two weeks, run around on scooters, you know,
Speaker 1: just doing doing what lung lovers do, you know? And
Speaker 1: then she went back to school. And then I had
Speaker 1: I got my draft notice in um Cairo and I
Speaker 1: had to go apply for the draft. I got to
Speaker 1: go sign up for the draft in Berlin, and I
Speaker 1: had months away, so I was on deadline then to
Speaker 1: get to there before they come and arrest me because
Speaker 1: I was out of college. And so I said, well,
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. I gotta do it. And I
Speaker 1: hitchhiked all the way there and then and then first
Speaker 1: and I went in there and they came outside and
Speaker 1: said you your father was an officer in the in
Speaker 1: the military. Yeah, your only son. Yep, you have broken
Speaker 1: ear drum. And they got an elbow in in sports,
Speaker 1: said yep, get out of here. There were seemed angry
Speaker 1: with me too. I went, I went, I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I was just like I was over
Speaker 1: the moon. You couldn't even imagine I was so did
Speaker 1: not We knew the story in Vietnam by this time.
Speaker 1: We knew it was not an honorable It wasn't an
Speaker 1: honorable war. Let's be let's face it. And uh, I
Speaker 1: just I kind of knew this was a bad, bad
Speaker 1: thing for me to do, but I felt obligated because
Speaker 1: my father was in and uh, this is what a
Speaker 1: guy did. You had you couldn't you didn't shirk your
Speaker 1: your duty. I was an American. I was proud of that.
Speaker 1: But then I didn't have to go. I was obviously
Speaker 1: relieved too. Buddy, you're gonna will imagine. Wow, eventually you
Speaker 1: come back to the States. Eventually come back to the
Speaker 1: States and you start sing with the grassroots. You formed
Speaker 1: the grassroots? Yep, well, well the grassroots were formed. But
Speaker 1: we I Warren and Rob and Ricky and I, yes,
Speaker 1: we took over. They did one Pflann album song called
Speaker 1: where Were You When I Needed You that they had recorded,
Speaker 1: and the group the Better Ones from the Bay Group,
Speaker 1: they came and started playing. They didn't want to do it,
Speaker 1: so they had this semi hit song. They needed a
Speaker 1: band and we were playing down right next to the
Speaker 1: whiskey at the London Fog. So our manager said, you know,
Speaker 1: he heard about this, and he submitted our demo tape
Speaker 1: a song called Beating around the Bush that Warren and
Speaker 1: I wrote. That's what she said. I don't because that's stretch. Stretch,
Speaker 1: that's a stretch. It's all right, no, no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in your chair, So just be careful what
Speaker 1: you say. And so this this becomes your first real success, right,
Speaker 1: I mean like big success. Oh yeah, big success. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, number one records and gold, gold records and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Sure, absolutely, it was a big It
Speaker 1: was a huge. And you can imagine me come from
Speaker 1: this little tiny town, never having a pot to piste
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm gonna Porsche, living out
Speaker 1: in Malibu and flying around and playing shows doing you know,
Speaker 1: it's playing all these amazing artists doing the big, big
Speaker 1: shows stuff on stage. You know, it was pretty heavy stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's any heavier than the office,
Speaker 1: but it was pretty heavy. Why why did you leave
Speaker 1: the grassroots? I left because I think you know the
Speaker 1: story of my dropping acid at the film wore I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know this is a famous story. I've heard this.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true or not. It's true,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely true, absolutely true. And uh, and when I
Speaker 1: do my book, there's so much stuff this is I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just scratching at the surface. This goes, this
Speaker 1: is in depth, stuff that happened. I'm gonna put say
Speaker 1: away at the end of everything I say, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put in little marks on stuff that I may or
Speaker 1: may not have said, but I'm gonna mark all. And
Speaker 1: most people sell these stories are not true. I will
Speaker 1: take a lot of detector tests and ascertain they're true.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't have to make this
Speaker 1: stuff up. This stuff happened, Ryan. They don't need to
Speaker 1: make up stuff because it's all so good. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: dropped acid, uh, and I couldn't play and UH dropped
Speaker 1: my pants on stage, just walked off naked and waved
Speaker 1: the audience, and we had to come back and make
Speaker 1: the show up the next week. Bill Graham hated me
Speaker 1: from that moment on, and I didn't really have a
Speaker 1: lot of sense of humor about that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: So it was kind of the uh it was time
Speaker 1: was running out for Creed and it was and that's
Speaker 1: the reason I left the group. They didn't want me
Speaker 1: to go. That was not the case at all. I
Speaker 1: was getting frustrated because we get back from tour and
Speaker 1: the Wrecking Crew, which I played with for the first
Speaker 1: couple of albums, Warren and I did, They've recorded stuff,
Speaker 1: they want us to put vocals on it. And I said,
Speaker 1: come on, man, this is I'm playing live. Let's let
Speaker 1: me just play the guitar. I've done it before. There's
Speaker 1: no problem there. So that's that's That was the the
Speaker 1: catalyst that made me. I just finally said when they
Speaker 1: find if you're not happy, and I said I'm not happy.
Speaker 1: It was it was both. It was a mutual agreement.
Speaker 1: They if you're unhappy, and I said I'm not. So
Speaker 1: I took a settlement, which was more than I ever thought.
Speaker 1: Then I went off lived out in Malibu for a
Speaker 1: while and went off to Europe for a while. And
Speaker 1: then as soon as I got uh got divorced, I
Speaker 1: went I realized that I had to get back into
Speaker 1: stuff that I was good at. Besides, because I trying
Speaker 1: to get solo career going nothing, what's going on? So
Speaker 1: I went and studied the Meister method in l A
Speaker 1: with Charles Conrad for about a year and a half
Speaker 1: and and I worked. I did a play at the
Speaker 1: Odyssey Theater with Bow Bridges directing, and uh, Jenny Sullivan
Speaker 1: and John Crosby. This very very famous agent, major agent
Speaker 1: manager in l A at the time, saw me and
Speaker 1: signed me up. And then I worked. I worked for
Speaker 1: a couple of years with him, just getting me gigs
Speaker 1: and uh. And then next thing I studied, stayed in class,
Speaker 1: work did all kinds of odd jobs. And I was
Speaker 1: in class the week before when I was on Bernie
Speaker 1: Mac and Ken Kappas came on. Boom said I wanted
Speaker 1: to be on the show because my gut level, I said,
Speaker 1: I want to do this. Put me in the background,
Speaker 1: and I realized, you guys already cast. I had to
Speaker 1: do something. So I wrote my own talking head, gave
Speaker 1: it to great and everyone said, you don't do that,
Speaker 1: You don't do stuff like that. He said, why not?
Speaker 1: I did it work because it was funny that the
Speaker 1: Gauds they did that. The thing was funny. That's why
Speaker 1: what's your what's your favorite thing? About working as an
Speaker 1: actor as opposed to maybe a musician or anything else.
Speaker 1: What do you enjoy the most? I think, and I
Speaker 1: think you you'll totally relate to. This is the family,
Speaker 1: the camaraderie, that the participation. We're all in there making
Speaker 1: this product, and we're all given and taken to to
Speaker 1: make the final finest piece of work we can. When
Speaker 1: you're up on stage, it's all me. But but when
Speaker 1: you're in a player or something like this, you're you're
Speaker 1: working in with a group of people. And I love that,
Speaker 1: you know me, I I just I was like everybody else.
Speaker 1: I just love going to work and doing what we did.
Speaker 1: There was so much and look at us. We're all
Speaker 1: still family, the whole cast still, you know. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you know if we've talked about here and elsewhere, like
Speaker 1: you know, so many people that you don't see who
Speaker 1: are also a part of it. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty people or whatever, and all those people too,
Speaker 1: and the crew. The crew. I still see Matt Son,
Speaker 1: camera guy. I go hike with him still all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know he's the best. Let me ask you,
Speaker 1: let's see if this makes any sense. If you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, what is your most embarrassing acting credit?
Speaker 1: Do you have one? So many to choose from bright
Speaker 1: and mine? So mine. I don't know why I started
Speaker 1: thinking about this this morning. Actually, Mine, what you told me?
Speaker 1: Yours first, and I'll tell you mine. I'll tell you mine,
Speaker 1: which is actually not It's not that it's terrible. It
Speaker 1: was a short film and it was basically there are
Speaker 1: a couple of other people who are in it, but
Speaker 1: it's basically me and the actor Kevin rom who's amazing,
Speaker 1: you know, in Madman monkst like fifteen other shows. But
Speaker 1: it's called Moosecock. Oh and and so I always hope
Speaker 1: you were the title character. Go when when doing you know,
Speaker 1: doing a Q and A or something. There is undoubtedly
Speaker 1: someone is gonna talk to me about how much they
Speaker 1: appreciate my work in Moosecock. And they keep saying yes,
Speaker 1: bringing up Moosecock, and it's yes, So that's mine. It's
Speaker 1: just it has just has to do with the name
Speaker 1: of it. You're lucky direct to have that story. You
Speaker 1: have a story, You have a story like that, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I when I was on the office, I got it.
Speaker 1: They give me to give us all time up to
Speaker 1: do stuff. I went and I did Terry with John
Speaker 1: c Riley and it did all. It went to Sundance
Speaker 1: and we get all the swag and I'm really really
Speaker 1: happy with my part. And I thought, Okay, here I go,
Speaker 1: here I go, and no one saw it. No one's on. Now.
Speaker 1: That wasn't embarrassing. That wasn't was an embarrassing. Then later
Speaker 1: I got to set a script for this movie called
Speaker 1: The Ghastly Love of Johnny X, and the guy Paul
Speaker 1: Brunel was doing a script funny kind of a sci
Speaker 1: fi musical, semi kind of a horror thing, you know,
Speaker 1: in a way weird way, but funny tongue in cheek,
Speaker 1: and he was using all the black the last of
Speaker 1: the black and white quote of Chroma X film the film,
Speaker 1: and he got the larry last bit of it. We're
Speaker 1: shooting in short ends for this whole film. We worked
Speaker 1: our ass and he had shot it with the first crew,
Speaker 1: and then he came back I think four to six
Speaker 1: years later with the same group of people that added
Speaker 1: some other characters like myself, and I came in as
Speaker 1: this dead alien. The alien who had come from another planet,
Speaker 1: became a rock star and had died and then his
Speaker 1: son comes in with the resurrection suit and brings back
Speaker 1: to life. I think it's like Rocky Picture Rocky Horror
Speaker 1: Picture show. I think it's fun. As soon as I wait,
Speaker 1: waited and waited to see what's gonna have seen, people
Speaker 1: are going to see it. And it came out. And
Speaker 1: the year it came out, it came in the trades
Speaker 1: the lowest grossing movie of that year. It was made
Speaker 1: tack a thousand, seventeen hundred dollars. It's like my heart
Speaker 1: just saying, that's so, if you want embarrassing, there's embarrassing
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah. Paul Williams was in it. Hysterically funny,
Speaker 1: so much fun stuff, so much tongue in cheek stuff,
Speaker 1: you know. And I I was just talking about chewing
Speaker 1: up the scenery and I was just having so much fun. Um,
Speaker 1: I've invented a new game. Yes, we're gonna play the
Speaker 1: first time I've ever played Moosecock. No, it's not Mooscock.
Speaker 1: It's called Creed Broughton Factor Fiction. If I had theme music,
Speaker 1: actually I should have you in the future, right the
Speaker 1: theme music for Factor Fiction. This is Factor Fiction with
Speaker 1: Creed Broughton. I already have like seven other questions from today.
Speaker 1: Are you doing this? What you're doing this with other
Speaker 1: people too? Well, I don't know. I just I just
Speaker 1: invented it because it seemed appropriate for you. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'll do it with other people. This is gonna go
Speaker 1: so well, we'll do it with other people. Okay, we
Speaker 1: know this already. And because this is the thing, if
Speaker 1: you've been listening for the last forty five minutes, things
Speaker 1: that Creed says, you're never exactly sure if it's fact
Speaker 1: or if it's fiction. And he likes it that way,
Speaker 1: but this is our own life. I've got him connected
Speaker 1: to a lie detector. I don't, but we're gonna pretend
Speaker 1: that I do. You could, we could, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna determine whether things from the office, things that
Speaker 1: have been said are fact or are they fiction. And
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, quick, Bryant. Just create
Speaker 1: the actor or the human being or create the character. No,
Speaker 1: this is the human being. Well, because because Creed Bratton
Speaker 1: is Creed Bratton to some extent, and and and many
Speaker 1: stories about your life we're into and it's called Creed.
Speaker 1: I mean, the character is called Creed Bratton and your
Speaker 1: Creed Bratton and maybe stories from the office were from
Speaker 1: your life or at least versions true or yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: are they that writers would take variation to hear me
Speaker 1: talk mumbling to myself, they followed me around the right stuff? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's okay, all right? Factor fiction? Were you a radio
Speaker 1: DJ and the seventies that went by the name wacky
Speaker 1: Weed creed false? False? Okay? Fiction? You mean this is
Speaker 1: called factor of fiction, so that's fiction, factor fiction? Okay fiction?
Speaker 1: Did you play yourself in the office on a given day?
Speaker 1: There was certainly, um a futuristic aspect of it if
Speaker 1: he was on state on drugs, So it's it's I
Speaker 1: can't really say factor because it was when I wrote that,
Speaker 1: when I wrote the Guy, which they based that on,
Speaker 1: that it's talking hid that I made. He was very exactly.
Speaker 1: I think I've talked to you about this on the
Speaker 1: show before. He was me on steroids with the like
Speaker 1: a crack tuning fork. I think was the analogy I
Speaker 1: gave you on your show. So it's certainly doesn't he
Speaker 1: wasn't introspective as I am. But but yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: it intends on what what's going on at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna call that. We're gonna call
Speaker 1: that faction. I like that. I used to admit that. Fact.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a faction. Okay, that's fact. Do
Speaker 1: you do you know how to scuba dive? Fact? Fact?
Speaker 1: Do you know how to scuba dive? Okay? I love snorkeling.
Speaker 1: I've never learned to scuba dive. That's a fact about
Speaker 1: I can't anymore. I used to. I used to have
Speaker 1: you used to so I used to have the think
Speaker 1: the whole thing and do it. Yeah. Have you ever
Speaker 1: worked in an office? False fiction? You've never worked in
Speaker 1: an office? That you know how rare that is. That's
Speaker 1: incredibly rare. That. Yeah, that you never did? Well, you
Speaker 1: know now we know you came from, you know, wearing
Speaker 1: cowboy hats on the farm, cowboy hats and stuff, riding
Speaker 1: to horses and yeah. Have you ever been in any
Speaker 1: form of or led a cult? No? I thought you
Speaker 1: might say you had been in on a version of
Speaker 1: one to do it. But but you're you're a friend.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bullshit yet. Okay, alright, perfect,
Speaker 1: Have you ever actually dressed up for Halloween. Yes, of
Speaker 1: course you had a fact generally go as myself now,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's what I do. Um, I've actually admitted
Speaker 1: this game for this very question. Have you ever snorted
Speaker 1: something off of a strippers body part at the Playboy
Speaker 1: Mansion with Jim Morrison? Faction snorted. I've definitely snorted some
Speaker 1: stuff there, but not with Jim. No, okay, not with Jim. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that was my all time favorite. You're throwing
Speaker 1: that out and then the room stops cold. That reminds
Speaker 1: me of the time I was at the Playboy Mansion
Speaker 1: with him. What did he just say? Um, can you
Speaker 1: use a computer? Rudimentary? You know? I can? I'm actually
Speaker 1: not that well. These people here would open the portal
Speaker 1: and and Propagate would say no, But I can. I
Speaker 1: can do I can. I can answer my I can
Speaker 1: answer emails, let's say, you know, and maybe send a photo.
Speaker 1: Or I can pick musical files and hear stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: musical files. That's close. Being able to answer an email
Speaker 1: is not necessarily being able to use a computer. Just
Speaker 1: for the record, Okay, I can. I can take download files,
Speaker 1: play something on my computer and then send it back
Speaker 1: to somebody. How about them apples without looking around or
Speaker 1: asking anyone who might be there. Do you know what
Speaker 1: n f T stands for? Non fungible tokens? Perfect? But
Speaker 1: when I first heard it, I thought they were talking
Speaker 1: about sponges, non spongebo non spongeable tokens. And then they
Speaker 1: said something else, and then my mind, you know me,
Speaker 1: and then I don't But I don't hear it correctly.
Speaker 1: I don't like am I just dyslectic mentally? So I
Speaker 1: heard and then I heard fungus, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was something to do with mushrooms, and it's now but
Speaker 1: but now they finally explained to me what it is.
Speaker 1: And now now I'm embracing the metaverse. You know, this
Speaker 1: is a great thing for me to be. Cryptocrete is
Speaker 1: at home now in this betaverse. Speaking of fungible have
Speaker 1: you ever put wacky mushrooms on a pizza? I've done
Speaker 1: my share of mushrooms, but not on a pizza. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be a little bit. I'd be over and
Speaker 1: I'll be over indulgent. You know, are you the scrand
Speaker 1: and strangler? You know, when I was at that trial
Speaker 1: for Toby, and I can't just come from the Halloween party,
Speaker 1: and I had covered in blood, and I went back
Speaker 1: in the back room at the courtyard, and I saw
Speaker 1: the courthouse and I saw that he was at there testifying,
Speaker 1: and there was the photographers stare and the Bereefs family,
Speaker 1: the Breeze, the family of the people that he killed.
Speaker 1: And you know, Brian, they never noticed me, never paid
Speaker 1: any attention. Let's just say they got the wrong guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair enough. There you go, Factor Fixtion. There that
Speaker 1: was it. You've conquered the music world. You've conquered that game.
Speaker 1: You've conquered and acted about that, and you've taken the
Speaker 1: TV world by storm, as they say. Now you're moving
Speaker 1: on to non fungible tokens the metal verse. I saw
Speaker 1: the burning video. How how fun was that? So and
Speaker 1: so much so much fun, you know. And and by
Speaker 1: the way that I got burnt to a little bit
Speaker 1: during that thing you did. Yeah, I got burnt, but
Speaker 1: we got They bought me some alabara and it's healed
Speaker 1: up pretty good. Now. How does burning flesh smell like
Speaker 1: mushroom pizza? That's very good? Um? Why the n f
Speaker 1: T world, I mean, I you're perfect for it. Number
Speaker 1: one so let me just say that, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: But well, you know who I am? You know I am? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: it's age, it's age. There's like you know, they're putting
Speaker 1: on the shoes getting out of bed, the creaky than
Speaker 1: like the sounds like God, the crack of the bones
Speaker 1: in the morning when you're waking up and now. But
Speaker 1: in the metaverse, I'm just free. I'm just that can
Speaker 1: fly and go to through universes. It's just it's a
Speaker 1: freedom that I that I love to experience. Brian, I
Speaker 1: loved the video. I can't wait to see the actual thing.
Speaker 1: Although what I'm gonna have to pay? What am I
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay? No? You are You've You've already
Speaker 1: been sent one. Don't worry. I've been I've been sent Yes,
Speaker 1: what is it? What is it worth? Now? Can I
Speaker 1: sell it already? You could sell it right now and
Speaker 1: probably really, you know, pay off your mortgage. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be sucking, should be. Maybe you know what we've talked about.
Speaker 1: You're worried about saying, fuck the idea. We should not
Speaker 1: be concerned about it. First of all, Okay, okay, you
Speaker 1: know me, I'm a little bit b botanical and doesn't matter. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: Alien chicken. Why alien Chicken? Um, well, I don't if
Speaker 1: I ever sent you the album, I think I probably
Speaker 1: did tell me about it. I used to have this
Speaker 1: fantasy about chickens, and I thought, because you I love chicken,
Speaker 1: you know, chicken and chicken salads and chicken sandwiches and chicken.
Speaker 1: Impost chicken who doesn't live chicken? And I one day
Speaker 1: I was thinking about aliens, and I'm thinking, I wonder
Speaker 1: if the chickens and alien chickens taste better? Are different?
Speaker 1: So I started thinking about alien chicken, and just I
Speaker 1: had to call my company Alien Chicken Ink. And so
Speaker 1: then the album tell me about it. You see me
Speaker 1: there being interviewed by one of my big chickens. He's there.
Speaker 1: He's a reporter for Rolling Stone. He's interviewing me. So
Speaker 1: that's always been my company. And when we decided to
Speaker 1: do uh uh talking with Lynn who worked with you
Speaker 1: and now me on then the she uh, she's well,
Speaker 1: just the ALIENI and chicken be cryptocreede alien chicken because
Speaker 1: it's already there. So that's what that's that's where it is, man,
Speaker 1: it's there. It's their congratulations. Oh man, thank you and
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me on. Man, it's
Speaker 1: good to say. And there's the only time I get
Speaker 1: to see you was on this little screen. But you know,
Speaker 1: go down I gotta get down south and visit you know,
Speaker 1: one of these days, you do, I say, our next reunion.
Speaker 1: I think we got to convince Rain to host and
Speaker 1: maybe take a ride on the zonkey. I hear he's
Speaker 1: got like an albino peacock. Now he's got this farm.
Speaker 1: It'll remind of your of your youth. Have you've been
Speaker 1: in to smooth place? You know? I have just passed by, couldn't.
Speaker 1: Walter his son who was born on the show. He's fifteen. Now, Brian,
Speaker 1: I'm there. I'm playing one of my songs. You know,
Speaker 1: he asked me. I brought my guitar and I'm jamming.
Speaker 1: Walter is playing solid guitar, jamming alongside of me, and
Speaker 1: it's like it's mine mind boggling. You know, a great kid.
Speaker 1: It's a great kid. The two of you need to
Speaker 1: do a song. I think that's a good idea. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll collaborate with anybody, you know, I love that's
Speaker 1: some of the best work sometimes, you know, you're working
Speaker 1: on your tenth album right, when is this we're gonna
Speaker 1: working on my tent working. I don't know, it's I've
Speaker 1: just got into my third song, just on my third song. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't out there in the metaverse, I'd probably
Speaker 1: getting more work done. Well, you're you're here, you're there,
Speaker 1: you're rewhere everywhere. But what what what? What are you
Speaker 1: working on it? Because I'm sorry, folks out there, I
Speaker 1: know this is but but I need to find catchup,
Speaker 1: be friend, to find what the hell he's doing now,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm I am so enjoying these
Speaker 1: conversations that I'm having with people right now. Truly, I
Speaker 1: am loving, loving doing this and hearing stories like from you,
Speaker 1: which I know some but still not all, and sharing Yeah,
Speaker 1: these stories and experiences with people. I'm just enjoying it
Speaker 1: so so much. I get it, I get I say,
Speaker 1: I feel it. It's just kind of great. Great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we're long overdue, my friend, I know. Virtual hug,
Speaker 1: big virtual hug, biggest virtual hug. I love I love you,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I love you. Thank you for
Speaker 1: the n f T. I'm gonna go pay off my mortgage,
Speaker 1: but I probably won't because I want to keep it.
Speaker 1: I want it's gonna get worth it'll be worth more.
Speaker 1: Don't want to get rid of it enough save it's kidding.
Speaker 1: I want to own a piece of you. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not the whole are horror highest bidder? Okay, see
Speaker 1: we can we can cut that out. I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: please do Creed, my friend. I cannot wait to go
Speaker 1: ride a zookey with you. Thanks for stopping by my
Speaker 1: old stomping grounds. Always great to talk to you. Don't
Speaker 1: do anything to my chair. Thanks to everyone else for
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Speaker 1: hosted an executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our
Speaker 1: executive producer Langley. Our producers are Diego Tapia, Liz Hayes,
Speaker 1: Emily Carr and Hannah Harris. Our talent producer is Ryan
Speaker 1: Papa Zachary. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak performed by
Speaker 1: my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed
Speaker 1: by Seth o'landski