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Speaker 1: It's me Brian Gardner, your host, here for a spanking

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Speaker 1: new episode of Off the Beat. Today. As you just heard,

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Speaker 1: What's happening? What's up, Bra? How's it going? Good? Good?

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Speaker 1: Good to see you. Man. Now wait a second, now,

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Speaker 1: week and one week we put a band together and

424
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: playing the topless bar out in the valley and it

425
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: had and this is no joke, the girl, a girl

426
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: you know with totally totally paste did the worly bird thing. Yeah.

427
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: I just did the worly bird. If you can see it,

428
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: you can, they can't see they just hearing right, No,

429
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: they okay, But so I had the worly bird things,

430
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm there, and the she was on

431
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: a swing, so we would we'd be singing like this,

432
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: and she swings, so I'd have to be the microphone.

433
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: I'd go and she'd swing by, and I come back

434
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: in and sing on the micro and then pull away

435
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: like this when she was on this, that was that's

436
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: that's welcome to the show biz. That's what that's. It's unbelievable.

437
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: It's true. It's absolutely true. Now, wait, there's so much

438
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: swun packer. You're traveling around Europe hitchhiking with a guitar

439
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: on your back, and you end up in Israel and

440
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: with two other guys we meet. There's two other guys,

441
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: Greg and Lee. Okay, and there were all the young

442
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: Californias were trio and worked at harmonies place. Well, we

443
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: couldn't hitchhike together because no just pick us up, so

444
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: we had to separate to get you know, sometimes we're

445
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: like can algery. I spent two nights sleeping on the

446
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: side of the road in the dirt, in my sleeping bag.

447
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, wild dogs attacking me. I know that's not

448
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: that's not. Yes, hey, I'll take a lie detective test.

449
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: Wild dogs are attacking the dirt and Algery I slept

450
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: on the dirt and alger but the obolutely that's wrong.

451
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: The wild dogs attacked us after a show in Libya

452
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: at the Wadan Hotel. We were in Libya and we're

453
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: just going and we're going to meet these people from

454
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: the Mobile Oil. We're gonna take us, fly us out

455
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: in the We went five hundred miles on the Sahara

456
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: Desert to play for the Mobile Oil. And we're on

457
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: the we're on the way after one of our shows

458
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: working at this club and these wild dogs and we

459
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: went back to back and we were banging using our

460
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: guitarists and instruments and kicking at these wild dogs. They

461
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: were attacking us. That's an honest to god truth. These

462
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: are stray dogs or these are like they're stray feral

463
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: dogs gadding up in. It's wild feral dogs. Wow. I

464
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: would have been scared. I would been scary that because

465
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: they got big power, they got big powerful jaws. Okay,

466
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: but wait a second, I'm trying to paint the picture.

467
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: You're getting attacked by wild dogs. You're asleep, and that's separate.

468
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: That's first, as Algeria understand, I'm sleeping Algeria. Yeah, and

469
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: then you're getting attacked by wild dogs in Libya and

470
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: then you end up in Israel. But how do you

471
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: end up in a Frank Sinatra movie in Israel when

472
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: you're just hitch? Is this just like, hey, guys, you

473
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: want to be in a show? What is happening? We

474
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: went all the way across to Egypt, and I think

475
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: we played for uh NASA's daughter. Nasa daughter daughters came

476
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: to a TV show and she and we played. We

477
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: entertained her on this TV show and I went behind

478
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: the three m machines that were recording. Instead of little

479
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: caps on the back of the wires, they had just

480
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: they were just the wires were just stuck together professional

481
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: given the wars for twist to the back, we went,

482
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: oh my god. Anyway, so we got there. We went

483
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: to the head. We were going all the way down

484
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: to South Africa. That was our plan. We were gonna

485
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: be all the way down and that would have been crazy.

486
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: We've probably gotten eaten for sure by bigger animals and

487
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: wild dogs. But the Congolese were running guns at the

488
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: time in the Sudan at that time in nineteen sixty four.

489
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: They wouldn't let us through. It wouldn't stamp our passport

490
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: and let us in, so we went back and we

491
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: got a boat to Bay Route. We played at this

492
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: place called the kit Cat Club, which was a brothel

493
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: and then the people, like the people for the Sheiks

494
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: from Kuwait would come there and the white rolls royces

495
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: with the gold stuff on the front, and it was

496
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: a front for a for a brothel. But we play

497
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: in this cabaret in front and by the way, by

498
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Rout was such a beautiful city at that time. We

499
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: broke my heart when I saw the war happen to it.

500
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: It was Paris on the Mediterranean. It was amazing, the

501
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: coolest people, amazing food, gorgeous city. And then we went

502
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: to uh Syria and then into Jordan's and then to

503
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: mantelbomb Gates to go into Israel, and we came in

504
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 1: there and we got an impresario and we started playing

505
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: clubs up in town, up and down the coast of Israel,

506
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: occer in places like that. So I'm body surfing one

507
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: day in the Outlow Surf and I met Michael Douglas,

508
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: and Michael Douglas was working there because his father was there.

509
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: He was He's one of the A d s. He

510
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: was like our age, you know, and we hit it

511
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: off and he and I said, we're having problems now,

512
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: but we can't get out of here because we won't

513
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: we don't have enough money to take a boat or fly,

514
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: and they won't let us go back through with with

515
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: the Israeli stamp back through the Arab countries. We were stuck.

516
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: And he said, wait a second, he said, let me

517
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: talk to the people, and he, Michael Douglas, made it possible,

518
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: his friend, because we've got became friends. So he got

519
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: us working and we worked as grips and stuff we

520
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: did all kinds of errands were just right for shorts,

521
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: no shirts, hammers. We ran around, did all the work

522
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: you could. You know. I got a picture I'll send

523
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: it to you of us singing with Kirk Douglas on set. Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah.

524
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: So you were working as a as grips and doing

525
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: basically doing any kind of base on odd jobs on

526
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: this movie just to make money, yea, so that you

527
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: could get out of Israel, so we could get out

528
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: of Israel. And that worked. You got out clearly at

529
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: some point, obviously clearly clearly, right, Yeah, so what you

530
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: ended up taking a boat to wear? Well, I this

531
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: is pretty long, dog. I gotta I gotta write this book. Yeah.

532
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: I fell in love with the director's daughter, Mel Shield's

533
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: daughter Lynn, So we went off to the Greek Islands.

534
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: We went to Rhodes and crete and uh uh, and

535
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: we stayed back two weeks, run around on scooters, you know,

536
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: just doing doing what lung lovers do, you know? And

537
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: then she went back to school. And then I had

538
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: I got my draft notice in um Cairo and I

539
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: had to go apply for the draft. I got to

540
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: go sign up for the draft in Berlin, and I

541
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: had months away, so I was on deadline then to

542
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: get to there before they come and arrest me because

543
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: I was out of college. And so I said, well,

544
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. I gotta do it. And I

545
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: hitchhiked all the way there and then and then first

546
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: and I went in there and they came outside and

547
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: said you your father was an officer in the in

548
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: the military. Yeah, your only son. Yep, you have broken

549
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: ear drum. And they got an elbow in in sports,

550
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: said yep, get out of here. There were seemed angry

551
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: with me too. I went, I went, I was just like,

552
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, I was just like I was over

553
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: the moon. You couldn't even imagine I was so did

554
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: not We knew the story in Vietnam by this time.

555
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: We knew it was not an honorable It wasn't an

556
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: honorable war. Let's be let's face it. And uh, I

557
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: just I kind of knew this was a bad, bad

558
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: thing for me to do, but I felt obligated because

559
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: my father was in and uh, this is what a

560
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: guy did. You had you couldn't you didn't shirk your

561
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: your duty. I was an American. I was proud of that.

562
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: But then I didn't have to go. I was obviously

563
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: relieved too. Buddy, you're gonna will imagine. Wow, eventually you

564
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: come back to the States. Eventually come back to the

565
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: States and you start sing with the grassroots. You formed

566
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: the grassroots? Yep, well, well the grassroots were formed. But

567
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: we I Warren and Rob and Ricky and I, yes,

568
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: we took over. They did one Pflann album song called

569
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: where Were You When I Needed You that they had recorded,

570
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: and the group the Better Ones from the Bay Group,

571
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: they came and started playing. They didn't want to do it,

572
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: so they had this semi hit song. They needed a

573
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: band and we were playing down right next to the

574
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: whiskey at the London Fog. So our manager said, you know,

575
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: he heard about this, and he submitted our demo tape

576
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: a song called Beating around the Bush that Warren and

577
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: I wrote. That's what she said. I don't because that's stretch. Stretch,

578
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: that's a stretch. It's all right, no, no, no, it's okay.

579
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in your chair, So just be careful what

580
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: you say. And so this this becomes your first real success, right,

581
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean like big success. Oh yeah, big success. Yeah,

582
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, number one records and gold, gold records and

583
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Sure, absolutely, it was a big It

584
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: was a huge. And you can imagine me come from

585
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: this little tiny town, never having a pot to piste

586
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm gonna Porsche, living out

587
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: in Malibu and flying around and playing shows doing you know,

588
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: it's playing all these amazing artists doing the big, big

589
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: shows stuff on stage. You know, it was pretty heavy stuff.

590
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's any heavier than the office,

591
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: but it was pretty heavy. Why why did you leave

592
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: the grassroots? I left because I think you know the

593
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: story of my dropping acid at the film wore I'm

594
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: sure you know this is a famous story. I've heard this.

595
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true or not. It's true,

596
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: it's absolutely true, absolutely true. And uh, and when I

597
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: do my book, there's so much stuff this is I'm

598
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: just I'm just scratching at the surface. This goes, this

599
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: is in depth, stuff that happened. I'm gonna put say

600
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: away at the end of everything I say, I'm gonna

601
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: put in little marks on stuff that I may or

602
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: may not have said, but I'm gonna mark all. And

603
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: most people sell these stories are not true. I will

604
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: take a lot of detector tests and ascertain they're true.

605
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't have to make this

606
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: stuff up. This stuff happened, Ryan. They don't need to

607
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: make up stuff because it's all so good. Anyway, I

608
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: dropped acid, uh, and I couldn't play and UH dropped

609
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: my pants on stage, just walked off naked and waved

610
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: the audience, and we had to come back and make

611
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: the show up the next week. Bill Graham hated me

612
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: from that moment on, and I didn't really have a

613
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: lot of sense of humor about that kind of stuff,

614
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: So it was kind of the uh it was time

615
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: was running out for Creed and it was and that's

616
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: the reason I left the group. They didn't want me

617
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: to go. That was not the case at all. I

618
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: was getting frustrated because we get back from tour and

619
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: the Wrecking Crew, which I played with for the first

620
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: couple of albums, Warren and I did, They've recorded stuff,

621
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: they want us to put vocals on it. And I said,

622
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: come on, man, this is I'm playing live. Let's let

623
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: me just play the guitar. I've done it before. There's

624
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: no problem there. So that's that's That was the the

625
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: catalyst that made me. I just finally said when they

626
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: find if you're not happy, and I said I'm not happy.

627
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: It was it was both. It was a mutual agreement.

628
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: They if you're unhappy, and I said I'm not. So

629
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: I took a settlement, which was more than I ever thought.

630
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Then I went off lived out in Malibu for a

631
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: while and went off to Europe for a while. And

632
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: then as soon as I got uh got divorced, I

633
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: went I realized that I had to get back into

634
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: stuff that I was good at. Besides, because I trying

635
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: to get solo career going nothing, what's going on? So

636
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: I went and studied the Meister method in l A

637
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: with Charles Conrad for about a year and a half

638
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: and and I worked. I did a play at the

639
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: Odyssey Theater with Bow Bridges directing, and uh, Jenny Sullivan

640
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: and John Crosby. This very very famous agent, major agent

641
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: manager in l A at the time, saw me and

642
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: signed me up. And then I worked. I worked for

643
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years with him, just getting me gigs

644
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: and uh. And then next thing I studied, stayed in class,

645
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: work did all kinds of odd jobs. And I was

646
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: in class the week before when I was on Bernie

647
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Mac and Ken Kappas came on. Boom said I wanted

648
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: to be on the show because my gut level, I said,

649
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: I want to do this. Put me in the background,

650
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: and I realized, you guys already cast. I had to

651
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: do something. So I wrote my own talking head, gave

652
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: it to great and everyone said, you don't do that,

653
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: You don't do stuff like that. He said, why not?

654
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: I did it work because it was funny that the

655
00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: Gauds they did that. The thing was funny. That's why

656
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: what's your what's your favorite thing? About working as an

657
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: actor as opposed to maybe a musician or anything else.

658
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: What do you enjoy the most? I think, and I

659
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: think you you'll totally relate to. This is the family,

660
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: the camaraderie, that the participation. We're all in there making

661
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: this product, and we're all given and taken to to

662
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: make the final finest piece of work we can. When

663
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: you're up on stage, it's all me. But but when

664
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: you're in a player or something like this, you're you're

665
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: working in with a group of people. And I love that,

666
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: you know me, I I just I was like everybody else.

667
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: I just love going to work and doing what we did.

668
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: There was so much and look at us. We're all

669
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: still family, the whole cast still, you know. And yeah,

670
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: you know if we've talked about here and elsewhere, like

671
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, so many people that you don't see who

672
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: are also a part of it. You know, there's a

673
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty people or whatever, and all those people too,

674
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: and the crew. The crew. I still see Matt Son,

675
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: camera guy. I go hike with him still all the time. Yeah,

676
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: I know, I know he's the best. Let me ask you,

677
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: let's see if this makes any sense. If you know

678
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, what is your most embarrassing acting credit?

679
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Do you have one? So many to choose from bright

680
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: and mine? So mine. I don't know why I started

681
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: thinking about this this morning. Actually, Mine, what you told me?

682
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: Yours first, and I'll tell you mine. I'll tell you mine,

683
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: which is actually not It's not that it's terrible. It

684
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: was a short film and it was basically there are

685
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: a couple of other people who are in it, but

686
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: it's basically me and the actor Kevin rom who's amazing,

687
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: you know, in Madman monkst like fifteen other shows. But

688
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: it's called Moosecock. Oh and and so I always hope

689
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: you were the title character. Go when when doing you know,

690
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: doing a Q and A or something. There is undoubtedly

691
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: someone is gonna talk to me about how much they

692
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: appreciate my work in Moosecock. And they keep saying yes,

693
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: bringing up Moosecock, and it's yes, So that's mine. It's

694
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: just it has just has to do with the name

695
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: of it. You're lucky direct to have that story. You

696
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: have a story, You have a story like that, you know, Okay,

697
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: I when I was on the office, I got it.

698
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: They give me to give us all time up to

699
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: do stuff. I went and I did Terry with John

700
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: c Riley and it did all. It went to Sundance

701
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: and we get all the swag and I'm really really

702
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: happy with my part. And I thought, Okay, here I go,

703
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: here I go, and no one saw it. No one's on. Now.

704
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: That wasn't embarrassing. That wasn't was an embarrassing. Then later

705
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: I got to set a script for this movie called

706
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: The Ghastly Love of Johnny X, and the guy Paul

707
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Brunel was doing a script funny kind of a sci

708
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: fi musical, semi kind of a horror thing, you know,

709
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: in a way weird way, but funny tongue in cheek,

710
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: and he was using all the black the last of

711
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: the black and white quote of Chroma X film the film,

712
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: and he got the larry last bit of it. We're

713
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: shooting in short ends for this whole film. We worked

714
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: our ass and he had shot it with the first crew,

715
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: and then he came back I think four to six

716
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: years later with the same group of people that added

717
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: some other characters like myself, and I came in as

718
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: this dead alien. The alien who had come from another planet,

719
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: became a rock star and had died and then his

720
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: son comes in with the resurrection suit and brings back

721
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: to life. I think it's like Rocky Picture Rocky Horror

722
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Picture show. I think it's fun. As soon as I wait,

723
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: waited and waited to see what's gonna have seen, people

724
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: are going to see it. And it came out. And

725
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: the year it came out, it came in the trades

726
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: the lowest grossing movie of that year. It was made

727
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: tack a thousand, seventeen hundred dollars. It's like my heart

728
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: just saying, that's so, if you want embarrassing, there's embarrassing

729
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah. Paul Williams was in it. Hysterically funny,

730
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: so much fun stuff, so much tongue in cheek stuff,

731
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: you know. And I I was just talking about chewing

732
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: up the scenery and I was just having so much fun. Um,

733
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: I've invented a new game. Yes, we're gonna play the

734
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: first time I've ever played Moosecock. No, it's not Mooscock.

735
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: It's called Creed Broughton Factor Fiction. If I had theme music,

736
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: actually I should have you in the future, right the

737
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: theme music for Factor Fiction. This is Factor Fiction with

738
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: Creed Broughton. I already have like seven other questions from today.

739
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: Are you doing this? What you're doing this with other

740
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: people too? Well, I don't know. I just I just

741
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: invented it because it seemed appropriate for you. But yeah, no,

742
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: I'll do it with other people. This is gonna go

743
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: so well, we'll do it with other people. Okay, we

744
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: know this already. And because this is the thing, if

745
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: you've been listening for the last forty five minutes, things

746
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: that Creed says, you're never exactly sure if it's fact

747
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: or if it's fiction. And he likes it that way,

748
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: but this is our own life. I've got him connected

749
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: to a lie detector. I don't, but we're gonna pretend

750
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: that I do. You could, we could, and we're gonna

751
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna determine whether things from the office, things that

752
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: have been said are fact or are they fiction. And

753
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, quick, Bryant. Just create

754
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: the actor or the human being or create the character. No,

755
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: this is the human being. Well, because because Creed Bratton

756
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: is Creed Bratton to some extent, and and and many

757
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: stories about your life we're into and it's called Creed.

758
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the character is called Creed Bratton and your

759
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Creed Bratton and maybe stories from the office were from

760
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: your life or at least versions true or yeah, exactly

761
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: are they that writers would take variation to hear me

762
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: talk mumbling to myself, they followed me around the right stuff? Okay,

763
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: that's okay, all right? Factor fiction? Were you a radio

764
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: DJ and the seventies that went by the name wacky

765
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: Weed creed false? False? Okay? Fiction? You mean this is

766
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: called factor of fiction, so that's fiction, factor fiction? Okay fiction?

767
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: Did you play yourself in the office on a given day?

768
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: There was certainly, um a futuristic aspect of it if

769
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: he was on state on drugs, So it's it's I

770
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: can't really say factor because it was when I wrote that,

771
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: when I wrote the Guy, which they based that on,

772
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: that it's talking hid that I made. He was very exactly.

773
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: I think I've talked to you about this on the

774
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: show before. He was me on steroids with the like

775
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: a crack tuning fork. I think was the analogy I

776
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: gave you on your show. So it's certainly doesn't he

777
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: wasn't introspective as I am. But but yeah, but you know,

778
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: it intends on what what's going on at the time. Yeah,

779
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna call that. We're gonna call

780
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: that faction. I like that. I used to admit that. Fact.

781
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a faction. Okay, that's fact. Do

782
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: you do you know how to scuba dive? Fact? Fact?

783
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Do you know how to scuba dive? Okay? I love snorkeling.

784
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: I've never learned to scuba dive. That's a fact about

785
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: I can't anymore. I used to. I used to have

786
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: you used to so I used to have the think

787
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: the whole thing and do it. Yeah. Have you ever

788
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: worked in an office? False fiction? You've never worked in

789
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: an office? That you know how rare that is. That's

790
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: incredibly rare. That. Yeah, that you never did? Well, you

791
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: know now we know you came from, you know, wearing

792
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: cowboy hats on the farm, cowboy hats and stuff, riding

793
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: to horses and yeah. Have you ever been in any

794
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: form of or led a cult? No? I thought you

795
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: might say you had been in on a version of

796
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: one to do it. But but you're you're a friend.

797
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bullshit yet. Okay, alright, perfect,

798
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: Have you ever actually dressed up for Halloween. Yes, of

799
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: course you had a fact generally go as myself now,

800
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's what I do. Um, I've actually admitted

801
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: this game for this very question. Have you ever snorted

802
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: something off of a strippers body part at the Playboy

803
00:44:52,840 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: Mansion with Jim Morrison? Faction snorted. I've definitely snorted some

804
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: stuff there, but not with Jim. No, okay, not with Jim. Okay,

805
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: all right, that was my all time favorite. You're throwing

806
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: that out and then the room stops cold. That reminds

807
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: me of the time I was at the Playboy Mansion

808
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: with him. What did he just say? Um, can you

809
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: use a computer? Rudimentary? You know? I can? I'm actually

810
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: not that well. These people here would open the portal

811
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: and and Propagate would say no, But I can. I

812
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: can do I can. I can answer my I can

813
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: answer emails, let's say, you know, and maybe send a photo.

814
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: Or I can pick musical files and hear stuff. Okay,

815
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: musical files. That's close. Being able to answer an email

816
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: is not necessarily being able to use a computer. Just

817
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: for the record, Okay, I can. I can take download files,

818
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: play something on my computer and then send it back

819
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: to somebody. How about them apples without looking around or

820
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: asking anyone who might be there. Do you know what

821
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: n f T stands for? Non fungible tokens? Perfect? But

822
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: when I first heard it, I thought they were talking

823
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: about sponges, non spongebo non spongeable tokens. And then they

824
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: said something else, and then my mind, you know me,

825
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: and then I don't But I don't hear it correctly.

826
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't like am I just dyslectic mentally? So I

827
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: heard and then I heard fungus, and I thought it

828
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: was something to do with mushrooms, and it's now but

829
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: but now they finally explained to me what it is.

830
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: And now now I'm embracing the metaverse. You know, this

831
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: is a great thing for me to be. Cryptocrete is

832
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: at home now in this betaverse. Speaking of fungible have

833
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: you ever put wacky mushrooms on a pizza? I've done

834
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: my share of mushrooms, but not on a pizza. Wouldn't

835
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be a little bit. I'd be over and

836
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: I'll be over indulgent. You know, are you the scrand

837
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: and strangler? You know, when I was at that trial

838
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: for Toby, and I can't just come from the Halloween party,

839
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: and I had covered in blood, and I went back

840
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: in the back room at the courtyard, and I saw

841
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: the courthouse and I saw that he was at there testifying,

842
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: and there was the photographers stare and the Bereefs family,

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00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: the Breeze, the family of the people that he killed.

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00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: And you know, Brian, they never noticed me, never paid

845
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: any attention. Let's just say they got the wrong guy. Okay,

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00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: that's fair enough. There you go, Factor Fixtion. There that

847
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: was it. You've conquered the music world. You've conquered that game.

848
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: You've conquered and acted about that, and you've taken the

849
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: TV world by storm, as they say. Now you're moving

850
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: on to non fungible tokens the metal verse. I saw

851
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: the burning video. How how fun was that? So and

852
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: so much so much fun, you know. And and by

853
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: the way that I got burnt to a little bit

854
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: during that thing you did. Yeah, I got burnt, but

855
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: we got They bought me some alabara and it's healed

856
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: up pretty good. Now. How does burning flesh smell like

857
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: mushroom pizza? That's very good? Um? Why the n f

858
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 1: T world, I mean, I you're perfect for it. Number

859
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: one so let me just say that, thank you, thank you.

860
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: But well, you know who I am? You know I am? Yeah, Well,

861
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: it's age, it's age. There's like you know, they're putting

862
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: on the shoes getting out of bed, the creaky than

863
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: like the sounds like God, the crack of the bones

864
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: in the morning when you're waking up and now. But

865
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: in the metaverse, I'm just free. I'm just that can

866
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: fly and go to through universes. It's just it's a

867
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: freedom that I that I love to experience. Brian, I

868
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: loved the video. I can't wait to see the actual thing.

869
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: Although what I'm gonna have to pay? What am I

870
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay? No? You are You've You've already

871
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: been sent one. Don't worry. I've been I've been sent Yes,

872
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: what is it? What is it worth? Now? Can I

873
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: sell it already? You could sell it right now and

874
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: probably really, you know, pay off your mortgage. It's gonna

875
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: be sucking, should be. Maybe you know what we've talked about.

876
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: You're worried about saying, fuck the idea. We should not

877
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: be concerned about it. First of all, Okay, okay, you

878
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: know me, I'm a little bit b botanical and doesn't matter. Yeah, exactly,

879
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Alien chicken. Why alien Chicken? Um, well, I don't if

880
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: I ever sent you the album, I think I probably

881
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: did tell me about it. I used to have this

882
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: fantasy about chickens, and I thought, because you I love chicken,

883
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, chicken and chicken salads and chicken sandwiches and chicken.

884
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: Impost chicken who doesn't live chicken? And I one day

885
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: I was thinking about aliens, and I'm thinking, I wonder

886
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: if the chickens and alien chickens taste better? Are different?

887
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: So I started thinking about alien chicken, and just I

888
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: had to call my company Alien Chicken Ink. And so

889
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: then the album tell me about it. You see me

890
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: there being interviewed by one of my big chickens. He's there.

891
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: He's a reporter for Rolling Stone. He's interviewing me. So

892
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: that's always been my company. And when we decided to

893
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: do uh uh talking with Lynn who worked with you

894
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: and now me on then the she uh, she's well,

895
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: just the ALIENI and chicken be cryptocreede alien chicken because

896
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: it's already there. So that's what that's that's where it is, man,

897
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: it's there. It's their congratulations. Oh man, thank you and

898
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me on. Man, it's

899
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: good to say. And there's the only time I get

900
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: to see you was on this little screen. But you know,

901
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: go down I gotta get down south and visit you know,

902
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: one of these days, you do, I say, our next reunion.

903
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: I think we got to convince Rain to host and

904
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: maybe take a ride on the zonkey. I hear he's

905
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: got like an albino peacock. Now he's got this farm.

906
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: It'll remind of your of your youth. Have you've been

907
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: in to smooth place? You know? I have just passed by, couldn't.

908
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: Walter his son who was born on the show. He's fifteen. Now, Brian,

909
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm there. I'm playing one of my songs. You know,

910
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: he asked me. I brought my guitar and I'm jamming.

911
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: Walter is playing solid guitar, jamming alongside of me, and

912
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's mine mind boggling. You know, a great kid.

913
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: It's a great kid. The two of you need to

914
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: do a song. I think that's a good idea. Yeah, no,

915
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: I'll I'll collaborate with anybody, you know, I love that's

916
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: some of the best work sometimes, you know, you're working

917
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: on your tenth album right, when is this we're gonna

918
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: working on my tent working. I don't know, it's I've

919
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: just got into my third song, just on my third song. Okay,

920
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: so I wasn't out there in the metaverse, I'd probably

921
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: getting more work done. Well, you're you're here, you're there,

922
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: you're rewhere everywhere. But what what what? What are you

923
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: working on it? Because I'm sorry, folks out there, I

924
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: know this is but but I need to find catchup,

925
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: be friend, to find what the hell he's doing now,

926
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm I am so enjoying these

927
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: conversations that I'm having with people right now. Truly, I

928
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: am loving, loving doing this and hearing stories like from you,

929
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: which I know some but still not all, and sharing Yeah,

930
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: these stories and experiences with people. I'm just enjoying it

931
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: so so much. I get it, I get I say,

932
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: I feel it. It's just kind of great. Great. Yeah,

933
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: well we're long overdue, my friend, I know. Virtual hug,

934
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: big virtual hug, biggest virtual hug. I love I love you,

935
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I love you. Thank you for

936
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: the n f T. I'm gonna go pay off my mortgage,

937
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: but I probably won't because I want to keep it.

938
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: I want it's gonna get worth it'll be worth more.

939
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: Don't want to get rid of it enough save it's kidding.

940
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: I want to own a piece of you. Yeah, I'm

941
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm not the whole are horror highest bidder? Okay, see

942
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: we can we can cut that out. I know. Yeah,

943
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: please do Creed, my friend. I cannot wait to go

944
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: ride a zookey with you. Thanks for stopping by my

945
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: old stomping grounds. Always great to talk to you. Don't

946
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: do anything to my chair. Thanks to everyone else for

947
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: tuning in. Don't forget to follow us on the old

948
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: Instagram at Off the Beat to stay up to date

949
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: with the latest and greatest. And if you've been liking

950
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: what you've been hearing, why not leave a review for

951
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: us on Apple Podcasts or comment directly to me. I

952
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: promise I am listening. Next week, I'm going to be

953
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: back with a well with a person of many talents.

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Speaker 1: You'll see, have a great week. Off the Beat is

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00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: hosted an executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our

956
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: executive producer Langley. Our producers are Diego Tapia, Liz Hayes,

957
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: Emily Carr and Hannah Harris. Our talent producer is Ryan

958
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: Papa Zachary. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak performed by

959
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed

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Speaker 1: by Seth o'landski