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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: All about that high school drama Girl Drama, Girl, all

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Speaker 2: about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl

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Speaker 2: sharing for the right teams, Drama Queens, my girl girl fashion,

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Speaker 2: but your tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, Quise Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens

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Speaker 1: Drama Queens.

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Speaker 4: You guys, welcome to this episode. I'm just gonna cop

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Speaker 4: to my unprofessional behavior right away. We were supposed to

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Speaker 4: pre watch this episode, and I have just been in

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Speaker 4: the thick of PTSO responsibilities and I'm just like scattered anyway,

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Speaker 4: So I didn't do it. I didn't watch it.

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Speaker 5: It's okay, We're gonna fill you in.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you all about it.

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Speaker 4: I'll probably remember once you start talking.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's give you a synopsis, shall we.

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Speaker 5: That's what I want.

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Speaker 3: It's season five, episode fourteen, What Do You Go Home Too?

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Speaker 3: It originally aired April twenty first, two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 3: and this was a big episode for your girl over here.

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Speaker 3: Brooke gets a phone call that is going to change

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Speaker 3: her life in a big WAYO has to do with

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Speaker 3: a baby baby, Millicent and Marvin take a new step

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Speaker 3: in their relationship. Haley seeks out Peyton about the making

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Speaker 3: of her next album, Has to Do It Together. Lucas

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Speaker 3: returns to the Tree Hill Ravens basketball team to discover

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Speaker 3: that their star player Quenton is injured and lying about it,

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Speaker 3: and Nathan begins to contemplate what it would take to

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Speaker 3: get his game back.

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Speaker 5: Okay, it was a chock full episode, yeah, really was.

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Speaker 4: And directed by our friend Liz, Liz Friedlander. That's important.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, oh my gosh, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was fun. It was. It was actually weird because

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Speaker 5: I feel like at the beginning it was a bit

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Speaker 5: of a slow start with everybody waking up in bed

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Speaker 5: and she shot exactly what was on the page. It

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Speaker 5: was great, but for some reason, the music was very slow,

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Speaker 5: and so it just it took forever for this episode

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Speaker 5: to get started, and I it's not because of the

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Speaker 5: content that was on the screen. It was it was

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Speaker 5: actually like a kind of a weird soundtrack episode for

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Speaker 5: me in the beginning, but it did pick up as

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Speaker 5: it went on. But yeah, this was it was cute,

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Speaker 5: like everybody woke up in bed and it was what

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Speaker 3: When they were and it was it made me giggle

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Speaker 3: because Lucas wakes up and he's thinking about Lindsey, and

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Speaker 3: Peyton wakes up and she's singing about Lucas. Jamie wakes

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Speaker 3: up and he's thinking about Chester, and Brook wakes up

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Speaker 3: and is thinking about Brooke, and I was just like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, I remember this. It was so funny.

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Speaker 5: Fun Brook made me giggle.

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Speaker 4: As you should at twenty two.

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Speaker 5: That's right, she'd be waking up. What makes me happy? Well,

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Speaker 5: Brooke is so happy in this episode, and Sophia, you

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Speaker 5: do happy really well, and like, it was just so

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Speaker 5: fun to see you lit up and bubbly and excited.

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Speaker 5: And there's so much drama on our show. There's so

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Speaker 5: many people brooding and being pensive, and Brook's been through

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Speaker 5: so much that just to watch you have fun and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh thanks, I did too. It's nice, especially when

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Speaker 3: to your point, things are so heavy for so many

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Speaker 3: of our characters all the time. It's nice to get

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Speaker 3: you know, she gets the call about this baby coming

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Speaker 3: into her life, and you know, the device of it

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Speaker 3: Hill is that there are kids who are essentially sponsored

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Speaker 3: to have free medical treatment in the US who come in,

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Speaker 3: whatever they're sick with, and they stay with a host

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Speaker 3: like a test via the adoption agency for Brooke Post.

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Speaker 3: You know, the fiasco of the woman from the agency

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Speaker 3: but it's like, I remember how much fun it was

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Speaker 3: when she gets the call and she starts freaking out

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Speaker 3: like has a full meltdown about it, and then you know,

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Speaker 5: That was fun. My favorite scene.

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Speaker 3: It was so funny, Like you two come in and

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Speaker 5: What my favorite was? Your response was Haley goes, did you, well,

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Speaker 5: did you buy anything for the baby? And you just

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Speaker 5: You're sitting in the middle of a baby store. What

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Speaker 5: a really good bantern like talking over each other. It

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Speaker 5: three of us do comedy on screen because we hadn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Our characters haven't gotten to do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it had been a minute.

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Speaker 4: Certainly not this year. But also, like, babies don't need anything.

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Speaker 4: That's That's something that I tell every new parent. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: don't buy toys, they don't play with them, they play

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Speaker 4: You know, like, they don't need stuff. When I gave

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Speaker 5: Me, amazing, Yeah, what'd you do? A couple of old

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Speaker 5: T shirts? I don't know, sent somebody else out, Jeffrey

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Speaker 5: own a friend, get to the right aid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I totally forgot.

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Speaker 5: That was a part of it. Lisa Goldstein was giving

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Speaker 5: me life in this episode. I love her so much.

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Speaker 5: I love it too, if you guys. And she's just

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Speaker 4: What goes on with her in Mouth because I like

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Speaker 3: M h. It's very sweet because they Brooks talking to

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Speaker 3: And it's this moment where you know if he's going

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It forces them to more swiftly talk about their dynamic,

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Speaker 3: and Millicine does that thing that I think so many

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Speaker 3: you know, I'll support you, and he he sort of

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Speaker 3: because she she sort of registers shock. And then you've

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Speaker 3: got Lee going too much too soon? No, I just

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Speaker 3: is it, you know, And and it's this great it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's special. Yeah, their chemistry is so strong

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Speaker 5: and so obvious. I just love seeing them together. And

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Speaker 5: it's fun. It's realistic. Like you start dating somebody, especially

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Speaker 5: about each other NonStop. You finally get the person that

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Speaker 4: That's hard to take the back seat. Like, yeah, when

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Speaker 4: I met Jeff, I never dated someone that was like

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Speaker 4: I'm the one that's working, Like.

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Speaker 5: I was always one that was working. Yeah, And it was.

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Speaker 4: Like, do you want to be my plus one? Do

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Speaker 4: And I'd never done that before.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I guess how did that feel? Well? At that point,

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Speaker 4: to act again. Okay, good story, Hillary. But it was

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Speaker 4: the difficult part was like I'm going to have this

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Speaker 4: If we're going to be a family unit, Like I

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Speaker 4: I can call the shots about all sorts of other things,

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Speaker 4: like where the production company sends you. So yeah, but

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Speaker 4: that work thing really forces you to have grown up

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so like I guess it's easier when you're

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's a nice out right it's like, oh, that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: You gotta go see you ladder.

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Speaker 5: But but when you're in your twenties, it's it's hard.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to know what to do. It's hard to know. Well,

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Speaker 5: what they decide to do is Millie's going to move

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Speaker 5: so sweet, and I really wish Lisa Goldstein was still acting.

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Speaker 5: I just need her on on a regular basis. She's

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Speaker 3: And her comedy like, it's really fun to watch someone

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Speaker 3: a great range. And yeah, I think I think part

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Speaker 3: really refreshing to have a couple of kids that are

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Speaker 3: Like that's what most people experience. Yeah, they made it

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Speaker 5: I mean I'd like to be friends with you, but

440
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 5: like I don't. Yeah, okay, let's go get a coffee.

441
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 5: But like it's just friendly friend calls, right, But then

442
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 5: how do I say it? What do you say? I

443
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 5: can't just randomly bring it up.

444
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 4: Now, what you do is you post on Instagram and

445
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 4: they're like you're you know they're gonna look.

446
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like my private life, I don't know all

447
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 5: that stuff out there, but that's what everybody does nowadays.

448
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 5: I guess it's the kid's place.

449
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like having a billboard.

450
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 5: Well, I wonder what uh Peyton and Lucas's instagrams would

451
00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 5: have looked like.

452
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: Oh, it would be a lot of reels set to

453
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: cure songs. Peyton would have been deep in the reels.

454
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, I could see that, just.

455
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 4: Making little mini music videos every couple days.

456
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, building a label that would have been good.

457
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 4: I might do that just for fun. Is there have

458
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 4: people created Instagram accounts for our characters.

459
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

460
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: That stuff makes me really uncomfortable. I gotta be.

461
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 4: Honest, because you never know, like who thinks it's real.

462
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, this feels it. I'm uncomfortable. I remember

463
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 3: there was like a minute was it during our season

464
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: seven I don't know where, like all the fake Twitter

465
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: accounts of all of us, and then our characters got weird,

466
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: and so then I remember like going, well, we should

467
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: just run them. That would be fun. Like if we

468
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: each ran like Twitter account for our characters.

469
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 4: And then I was like, I am not getting paid

470
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: any money to do.

471
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: This is a full time job, never mind, and I stopped.

472
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: I think I did it for like six days.

473
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 5: But I was like, no, I don't.

474
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 3: I don't have time to write content for like A

475
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 3: I gotta go.

476
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 5: Not if you're not getting paid for it. No, Hill,

477
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 5: did you ever you know? You were always so music

478
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 5: was such a big part of your life, obviously with

479
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 5: MTV and then Peyton. Did you ever actually consider starting

480
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 5: a label or.

481
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was supposed to do with our boss. That

482
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: was the whole shtick is that when he was mentoring me,

483
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 4: we were going to start a label, and that was

484
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 4: like the carrot that was dangled, and that was the

485
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 4: thing that was taken away when I when I raised

486
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 4: my voice about things. And so, yeah, starting a label

487
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 4: was something I was definitely into because I had hosted

488
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: radio show for college station and like found all these

489
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: bands and was going to venues all the time trying

490
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: to find on sign like that was it was art

491
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: and life converging.

492
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 5: Could you ever see yourself doing that in the future?

493
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 5: Not now?

494
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 4: No, I mean as my kid gets into music, Like

495
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: Gus had a little band for a while and his

496
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: chorus teacher has singled him out and had him perform

497
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 4: in town.

498
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 5: I guess he.

499
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 4: They were doing karaoke at the end of the school

500
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 4: year and he sank seven Nation Army like he's super

501
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: into Jack White and the White Stripes, and his teacher

502
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 4: was like, will you come perform in town? Gus was

503
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: very nervous about it, but he did. He went and

504
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 4: he performed in town.

505
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 5: It was cute.

506
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: And so as he gets involved in that, there's that

507
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: part of me that's like, oh that, am I going

508
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 4: to be a Mamager? I don't know, but yeah, I

509
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: think I think I wanted Peyton to succeed, and so

510
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 4: I wanted like a real record label to succeed. I

511
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 4: still really like that crossover of fact and fiction in

512
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: any kind of TV show or movie. Yeah, Like it's

513
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 4: the Blair Witch effect, right, Like the thing you're watching

514
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: feels more fun if it might be real.

515
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: Yes, So I don't know, Well, I think that's the

516
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 5: whole basis of reality TV, right, it's all scripted.

517
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, all right, so then here's what I like though,

518
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: because I do have sense memories about you coming into

519
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 4: the red bedroom office and us being like, let's do this,

520
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 4: Let's do Haley's record.

521
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: You guys, you were so fun to watch doing that stuff.

522
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 5: I'm glad it was a fun scene. That song that

523
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: they played was something that a friend of mine wrote.

524
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 5: But I also was kind of like, I don't know,

525
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: I wish I just wish I had had some better

526
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 5: advice at the time, Like I wish I had trusted

527
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 5: someone to give me better advice, because I feel like

528
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 5: there was such a great opportunity to like find a

529
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 5: really good music and great songs and played just like

530
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 5: super cool stuff. And I remember the stuff that I heard,

531
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: just even just since an episode. I was like, oh,

532
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 5: it's kind of lame, Like we need some better stuff

533
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 5: coming in for Haley.

534
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 4: But your sound has changed a lot since I don't

535
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: want not that your sound has changed a lot since then,

536
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: but like I feel like you're doing riskier things now

537
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 4: than you were when we were kids, which is, you know,

538
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 4: we've lived a lot more.

539
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just feels more like I don't care about

540
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 5: fitting into some particular mold and I'm just trying to

541
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 5: have fun and do what feels authentic to me, which

542
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 5: I just didn't have that in me when I was twenty.

543
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: But I also think you have to give yourself like

544
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of grace for the context of the era, Like, yeah,

545
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: you're still in the era where the where the girl

546
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: pop stars were being forced into the kind of music

547
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: they were making, and like you, you were being given

548
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: music to play as Haley on the show. It wasn't

549
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: like they brought in four producers for you to do

550
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 3: four sessions to figure out who made you come alive

551
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: as an artist and then sayeah, okay, Joy, go make

552
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: music like you were working a double full time job.

553
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: Like sorry, seventeen hours a day is two is nearly two,

554
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: it's like two eight hour days. Yeah, you know, twenty

555
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: four hour period.

556
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: Like they would hand me a guitar and be like,

557
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 5: can you just play something from the beginning of the scene.

558
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: I was like okay, yeah, Like I think you got

559
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: to like let yourself up off the mat a little

560
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: bit there, because it's not like somebody took you in

561
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: a studio for two weeks and was like, let's come

562
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: up with something amazing for this one scene. They were like, hey,

563
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: you have a scene on Wednesday, and we have to

564
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: record a song tomorrow.

565
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 5: Like yeah, or do you have anything? I'm like, yeah,

566
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 5: I mean I guess I wrote something when I was

567
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 5: nineteen four years ago, but you probably got something right. Sure,

568
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 5: sure o man and the fact again, but again, like

569
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 5: how easy to be taking advantage of I mean, come on, yeah,

570
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 5: it's a whole other talent, a whole other skill. I

571
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: just get hired for acting. And how people expect you

572
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: to do things that are gonna end up on a

573
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 5: soundtrack and then never get paid for it because it's

574
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 5: the character that's singing.

575
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: Wow, we weren't learning cheerleading dances anymore, so they needed

576
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: us to jump through. It's probably separate hoop, different hoops.

577
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's cool.

578
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: For me to hear you say Hill that you remember

579
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: the scenes, because like, you know, we're we're talking about

580
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: having just watched it. But that's so that's so neat

581
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: because for me, you know, when we all watch together

582
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: and we talk in real time about an episode, it's

583
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: one thing. But I literally wrote in my notes, I

584
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: was like, I love being an audience member right now,

585
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: just watching the two of you, Like when you came

586
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: in the office, Joy and you started to you know,

587
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: talk to her and there's all this good news about Mia.

588
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: But I could tell you were nervous and then you're,

589
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: you know, telling her how proud you are of her.

590
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: I was like, she wants something?

591
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: Is this?

592
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Is this when she's gonna say she

593
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: wants to make music? Or is it something else?

594
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 5: What's happening?

595
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: Like I was like excited watching the two yeah, and

596
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: hoping I was right. And I don't know, like, it's

597
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: it's cool to hear that even though you didn't get

598
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: to watch this morning, you remember those scenes viscerally all

599
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: these years later.

600
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, the storyline I definitely remember vividly because I love collaboration,

601
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: and I for the longest time tried to make my

602
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: romantic relationships collaborative. To me, that was like the most

603
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: intimate kind of relationship you could have with someone where

604
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: you're like doing a project together, like doing a thing.

605
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: And that's what I wanted. And then I realized I

606
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: didn't have to put so much pressure on my romantic

607
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: relationships if I cultivated that with my female friendships.

608
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 5: And so I started just.

609
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: Like doing projects with chicks, you know, and I have

610
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: like my producing partners, and I have my girlfriends from

611
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: high school that I do charity work with and like

612
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: ladies here in my town that clearly I'm doing like

613
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 4: stuff at the school with and that that sense memory

614
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: of like Peyton and Haley being like, let's go down

615
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: this road together. It excited me. That's the kind of

616
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: relationship that I like most in my real life. So

617
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: it's fun to play because you're like, oh, this it's easy.

618
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. And I think that's such an important

619
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: thing that you learn as you age, Like if you

620
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: have to have a project in a romantic relationship, you

621
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: run the risk of your relationship just being a project

622
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: instead of instead of like your one safe haven versus

623
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: if you have projects with a bunch of the people

624
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: you love to be around, but who you're not trying

625
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: to get that singular romantic filment from you, actually you

626
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: cultivate healthier relationships on both sides. But I think it

627
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: can be so easy, you know, in our any world

628
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: of like content and this and that to be like ooh,

629
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: power couples. I'm like, mm hmm, I don't know if

630
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: that's it.

631
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: No, man, Jeff and I stick to our lanes. Man, Yeah,

632
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: I also don't you just need space? Like well, yeah,

633
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: maybe I'm an introvert. But damn I could not know.

634
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: But go, please go away for the day and come

635
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: back at the end of the day. I can't wait

636
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: to see you for dinner. Yeah, surprise me.

637
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: Come home and like have something to tell me I

638
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: don't already know.

639
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: Yes. And I like working in collaborative relationships with my

640
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: friends because their problem solving skills are different from my

641
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: problem solving skills, and we're not always going to see

642
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: eye to eye, and there's room to like learn from

643
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: each other and stuff. I don't want that at home.

644
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: Like at home, I just want it to be fuzzy

645
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: and soft, you know, like oozie.

646
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

647
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to do like a negotiation at home.

648
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: I want to do a negotiation like in the middle

649
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: school gym when we're trying to figure out where to

650
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: hang the decorations.

651
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you don't want your dining room table to

652
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: feel like a conference.

653
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 4: No, that's a great point.

654
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: That's it.

655
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: You need separateness. And I think, thinking about this in

656
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: real time with you guys right now, I go, oh, right,

657
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: it's this dynamic that we've modeled so well through evolutionary

658
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: phases of these characters on our show and It's why

659
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: I think everyone always comes back to our characters, our

660
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: female friendships, being the love story. Yeah yeah, because like

661
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: this is building long love and community together. And yeah,

662
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: look at us modeling healthy dynamics before we even knew

663
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: what they were on.

664
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: No, but from like Close Over Bros. When they're in

665
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 4: high school to this new phase of the record label

666
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: and now Haley's relaunching her career, I think that women need.

667
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: There's so much bad stuff that was directed at our generation.

668
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: Like look at the board games they had when we

669
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: were little girls. It was like that call a boy

670
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 4: game or like go to the mall game.

671
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, dress up for your date, ye, mystery date.

672
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: Everything was just like bing dong, you know, like so embarrassing.

673
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: And so I think for our generation to have like

674
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 4: an example of girls hanging out with each other, not gossiping,

675
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: not being bitchy, not plotting anything sinister. They're like helping

676
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 4: each other level up. That's awesome. I love leveling up

677
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: with my girlfriends in real life. And so yeah, it's

678
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: fun to see. It's fun to see the gang do that.

679
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: And I love that Hayley's doing music again.

680
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. It's nice to see her hit that

681
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 5: spot in her life.

682
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: Joy. Was that something that you had expressed, like at

683
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: this stage of the show, wanting to do more of

684
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: as Haley or was that something they were more bringing

685
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: to you asking you to do.

686
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 5: I think I might have gotten I think this might

687
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 5: have been around the time I got my deal with

688
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 5: Epic HM. Was it what I had blonde hair? Then

689
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 5: I chronicle my life by my hair? Was really? Yeah,

690
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't remember. I wish I remembered.

691
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: This is when you were doing Everly. I think because

692
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: I remember, oh, yeah, it could have been our Christmas

693
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: party and then our rap party.

694
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it could that. That could very well be. Yeah,

695
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: I was. I was trying to you were playing figure

696
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 5: out what I what I wanted to do, how I

697
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 5: wanted to sing or sound or you know, it's just

698
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 5: so hard to figure that stuff out, like exploring this

699
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 5: whole side of yourself as an artist when you've me

700
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 5: you made my whole career as an actor. I had

701
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 5: been doing that for so long that it was fun

702
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 5: to have that opportunity, but it was weird to not

703
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 5: have that opportunity to experiment artistically and kind of follow

704
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: my face and figure it out and figure what a

705
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: crowd likes and what they don't like and what I enjoy.

706
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 5: And because I was, it was on TV, and if

707
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: I had done concerts, it would have been a whole thing.

708
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 5: So without having a whole team behind me, and even

709
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: if I had, then what would I have just become

710
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 5: like a pop machine? I don't know. It was weird.

711
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 5: It was weird to try and figure that out. So

712
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 5: I don't know that I ever really got the time

713
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 5: to understand and explore my own artistic prowess in that way.

714
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: It can be really hard to find your voice when

715
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: you're already famous.

716
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 5: It's interesting. I hadn't thought about that before. Yeah, but

717
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 5: I feel for you.

718
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: In that, Like there are things I've wanted to do

719
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: for my own expression as a human, like Lanes I

720
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: would love to drive down that I won't because we

721
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: get judged very differently.

722
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it's not like.

723
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: You know, to your point, going and trying out music

724
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: or like learning to do stand up or any other

725
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: kind of expression where you go and you work your

726
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: way up the scene. We bring a scene wherever we

727
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 3: go because of One Tree Hill.

728
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 5: And that is.

729
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: But oh boy, yeah, like it can cut you quick

730
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: because because people think like they're always looking for a

731
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: reason to tell you're a failure when you're already a

732
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: success in their eyes. It has nothing to do with

733
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: how each of us feels in our own selves. And

734
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: so I, yeah, God, I really feel for you in

735
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: that because it's not like you could have just been

736
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: going and doing open mics and and you know, playing

737
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: small venues like without any fear or pressure.

738
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I think that's the thing is I

739
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 5: didn't have the tools to know how to handle the

740
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 5: fear or pressure because I could have done it. I mean,

741
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: there are people out there who, like James Franco, went

742
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 5: and did a soap opera in the middle of his

743
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: like the height of his career. You know, like there's

744
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 5: so many it's just so out of the box. And

745
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 5: I think there's something super badass about just being an

746
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: artist and you just whatever you want to try, you

747
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 5: just do. Just go do it. Go try something, whether

748
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 5: you fall fat on your face or not. But there

749
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 5: is so much anxiety and pressure around maintaining a certain

750
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: level of what people expect of you that to be

751
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 5: able to just lay that aside and say I don't

752
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: really care what people are going to think about this.

753
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 5: I'm just going to do it because it feels good

754
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: and it's fun. It's that is like the ultimate of

755
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 5: being able to be an artist to me, But I

756
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 5: don't know that a lot of us get there because

757
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: there are so many pressure points along the way.

758
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: It was always weird to me that all of the

759
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: musical acts on our show were solo acts, right, because

760
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: I think band dynamics are so interesting and like so

761
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: ripe for drama and all of those kind of really

762
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: heated personal relationships and like, I don't know, you've played

763
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 4: with bands like you have toured with people. It makes

764
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: me sad that Haley didn't get like a band I

765
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 4: know that would have been fun, like none of our

766
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: acts did. It was always just like, I don't know,

767
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: solitary in a way that I don't I haven't experienced

768
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: in the music industry. My experience in the music industry

769
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: is like band culture, where you're in a van with

770
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: four or five other people and you gotta figure it out.

771
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: And we didn't get to.

772
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 4: Do that on our show. What would Haley's band I

773
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: look like? Would have been like all chicks.

774
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: Like the Donnas that see that would have been great,

775
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 5: like super forward thinking for the time. That would have

776
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 5: That would have been the band that Peyton put together

777
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 5: for her and said this is what we need to do. Oh,

778
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 5: that would have been great. I would think drummers are

779
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 5: so hot. Last time I was in Wilmington, I played

780
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 5: a concert and I have Megan Jane, who's a great

781
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 5: drummer here in Nashville, came out and she played in

782
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: Wilmington and she's just she's so awesome. Reminded me of

783
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 5: Jane a lot.

784
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: Jane Beck.

785
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 5: Jane Beck. Yeah, she's very similar energy, really calm and cool.

786
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 5: But I love a female drummer. They're just like so

787
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 5: settled in their body and they just just feel it out.

788
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: Everything is so dropped in. Yeah, anyway, that's all I

789
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 5: have to say about that. But yes, I also love

790
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: female drummers.

791
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 4: So cool.

792
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 5: Haley needed a band. Man. Did you guys see six

793
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 5: by the way yet? Have you seen Six the musical?

794
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 5: Not yet?

795
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: I really want to.

796
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 5: It's so good. Do you know? Do you even know

797
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about?

798
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 4: It's the wives of Henry the Eighth right.

799
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like Spice Girls, it's you know, funny but

800
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 5: super there's a female it's an all female band on stage,

801
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 5: and none of the women who are the actors ever

802
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 5: leave the stage either. They they're all on it for

803
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: the entire ninety minute run, all dancing, all participating each

804
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 5: other songs. They work their asses off. But watching these

805
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 5: this all female band just go at it every night

806
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 5: and they're killing it on stage, it's so fun.

807
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: I love it, and I love the different personalities in

808
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: a band, Like I just showed Gus almost Famous, and

809
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: it's such a good example of like here's the drummer

810
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: who's a little bit goofy, right, and then here's like

811
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 4: the super moody lyricist guitar player who's neo Yeah, Bank season.

812
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 5: Charge probably is.

813
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: And then Jason Lee playing the lead singer who is

814
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: just a dipsh and sudden so lovable, and then yeah,

815
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 4: your bass player is pretty mysterious. Always I wish that

816
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 4: we had gotten to play with that, because as deep

817
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: as our show, when into music territory, you know, it

818
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 4: was always just when you were expected to do all

819
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: the heavy lifting all by yourself instead of having a

820
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: support group.

821
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, too many other characters. I can't pay for all

822
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 5: those all those band members.

823
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: If you had to set up your band here's the question. Okay,

824
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 4: and we couldn't pay new people to come in. Okay,

825
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 4: who failely recruit to be the band?

826
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 5: So good? That's so good? Oh man? Uh, Who's who's

827
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: on drums? I think if you feel like we have

828
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: to start with drums and that feels like just because

829
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 5: I'm so super in love with Robbie Jones in this episode,

830
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Robbie on the drums. Also, he's

831
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: a basketball player, even though in this episode he's hurt

832
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: his hand.

833
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: Oh there are one armed drummers.

834
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and hey, look if he could never play basketball again,

835
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 5: which is what his doctor told him in the last episode,

836
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 5: he can be my drummer, so I want so yes, Uh,

837
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 5: I definitely would. I mean it would be really fun

838
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 5: to have Baiting and Brooke as backup singers. But you

839
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: guys have your own careers, so I don't know. If

840
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 5: that we could shoop shoop here and there, we could

841
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: do it. Yeah, we got time, let's do it.

842
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: Block out studio days will be fine.

843
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly who's on guitar? Who's just like mellow

844
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 5: and sexy and oh am?

845
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: I thinking of yeah, they gotta be like lanky guitar

846
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: players are always lank, lanky.

847
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, why do I feel like it would be Uncle Cooper?

848
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: That's what I was thinking too.

849
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: It was kind of.

850
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: But I was like, I don't know, is it too?

851
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 5: Is he like in the story? Enough? Yeah, I'm gonna

852
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: go with Uncle Cooper. He would be on the guitar

853
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 5: or the bass actually, because he's got that mysterious thing

854
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 5: going on too, and all the bass players are always

855
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 5: so you gotta get a chick bass player, I know.

856
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 5: That's what Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I know,

857
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: because I'm like, we need some more girls in this band.

858
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: Millie doesn't feel like she's in a band to me.

859
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: I mean Rachel if she got her act together killer. Actually,

860
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: you know what, Rachel could be on drums too. I

861
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 5: gotta say, Yeah, she's got to.

862
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 4: Be on like one of the aggressive instruments. Yes, for sure,

863
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: something that she's got a hit or slap, either the

864
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: face or the drums. Yes, love it, get it out

865
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 4: of her system. Yeah. I like this band.

866
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. That's good. Let's imagine this. We have

867
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: to talk a little bit about Peyton and Lucas. Can

868
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: I segue?

869
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

870
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: Fill me in? What did I cry about this week. Friend.

871
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 5: Well, here's what was weird. So we're like, we're hanging

872
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 5: out with Brooke, We're helping her figure out stuff with

873
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 5: the baby. She invites Nathan and Lucas over. I think

874
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 5: maybe I missed it. I don't know. Why did they

875
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 5: come over just congratulations?

876
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: I guess it sort of just felt like, yeah, people

877
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 3: were like, you're getting a baby.

878
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, they just showed up. It's like publishers clearing house.

879
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 3: It's like, no, it's temporary, but it's cool.

880
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 5: I don't know. So you come around the corner holding

881
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 5: something to with babies, and Lucas is there, and you

882
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: both stare at each other, and it is the longest,

883
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 5: most awkward, like, oh you're here, Oh you're here. H

884
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 5: Neither of us knows what to do, and neither of us.

885
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 5: Neither of you could look away and pretend like everything

886
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 5: was fine, because that wasn't in this gript so you

887
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 5: just had to stand there and stare. But then they

888
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 5: cut to you, guys walking. You've left the group and

889
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 5: the two of you are now taking a private walk,

890
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 5: which felt very abrupt and sudden. After the whole wedding fiasco,

891
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 5: do you remember that at all?

892
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: Where were we walking? Like, were we inside or outside?

893
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 5: Outside? I was like, where was it?

894
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 4: I think it was out at the beach on Summer

895
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: Rest Road.

896
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: Yes, it was a neighborhood road.

897
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, isn't it supposed to be the

898
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: exterior of my house? Yes, but we never went there

899
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: because Brooks House was in Carolina Beach.

900
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: So yes.

901
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes we would just go to random places and be like,

902
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 3: this is her neighborhood and I'm.

903
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 5: Like, is it, yeah, neighborhood street.

904
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: I have like sinormary because Liz's episodes really stood out

905
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 4: to me. She had like older sister energy that I

906
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: was very very drawn to. And I would would get

907
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: just like so excited, and then you know, like when

908
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 4: you're excited about hanging out with an older chick, that's cool,

909
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: and you're like, don't be a dork, don't be a dork,

910
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: really getting nervous. And I remember being at that location

911
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: with her and we had to pace out the walk

912
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: and Chad was either still getting ready or just like

913
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 4: wasn't there, And so she and I pasted it out

914
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: together and she was reading all of Lucas's lines and

915
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: I was just like, don't be a dork Hillary, Like,

916
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: I just have strong memories of that, so strong that

917
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: I can remember the road.

918
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 5: It is some arrest road out.

919
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll remember it forever.

920
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 5: It was funny because you're talking about, oh, are you

921
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: sorry about Lnday and he's like, no, we're gonna get

922
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 5: back together. Everything's really good. It's fine. You know, she

923
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 5: loves me. It'll be good. But the chemistry between the

924
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 5: two of you is heavy. It was good. I felt

925
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 5: it felt like, oh, oh yeah, this is what we've

926
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 5: been missing little Lucas and Peyton.

927
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: I remember in earlier seasons when like people would tell me, oh,

928
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: you and Chad have such great chemistry. I would get

929
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 4: so mad, be like, what what are you talking about?

930
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: We don't We're doing our jobs right. And then by

931
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 4: the time we got to this season, I was a

932
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 4: little cocky about it.

933
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, put them in a room with me.

934
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 4: What happens, Well, make them sweat? Yeah. Well. I liked

935
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: of all the stuff they rushed on our show. I

936
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: liked how drawn out this Lucas Peyton thing is.

937
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to make it hurt, yeah.

938
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 3: Yes, and and by the way, make it make it

939
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: take time, you know, like the the wedding fiasco is

940
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 3: a big deal, like let it sit and draw out.

941
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 5: And I don't know.

942
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 3: I like when we give the characters opportunities to really

943
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: go through their complex emotions and process those things, because

944
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: sometimes on our show, it's like, well that was fun,

945
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 3: and like two scenes later and it's over and you're.

946
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 5: Like we what, Yeah, what do you mean?

947
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just get a baby. Yeah, just boom, you got.

948
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: A phone call.

949
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: She'll be here in an hour.

950
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: Owen. Owen didn't show up because they didn't want to

951
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 5: bring him in pay for the episode, so they brought

952
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 5: in Chase just to say like ohen uh oh was

953
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 5: not coming why. But Chase also felt weird because he

954
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: wasn't in it for that much, like he was in

955
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 5: and out. But it's been so long since we've seen him.

956
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, Hillary, You're gonna freak when you see

957
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: the scene I get in a fight with Owen on

958
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: the phone. He's clearly not there and I'm like, well,

959
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: figure it out, and he's being weird about the baby okay,

960
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: yeah dum yeah, And you say something about like this

961
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 3: guy who like you, you've barely even kissed or haven't

962
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 3: even kissed yet, whatever, it is, and and then Chase

963
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: shows up and I'm like, oh, Owen's on his way,

964
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: and he's and he basically says that he's not, and

965
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: I think he's come in his place. But he's explaining

966
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: to me that Owen's really threatened with the baby stuff

967
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: and he really values his independence and that you know,

968
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: he wanted to say goodbye but probably couldn't wait.

969
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 4: You got broken up with via Chase through Chase.

970
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: And then I say he sent you and he goes, no,

971
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: I came on my own because I feel for him,

972
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: because I know that I know how he feels, and

973
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: he probably feels like if he looked in your eyes,

974
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: he would throw his independence away. And he's basically flirting

975
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: with me, telling me that it's hard for him to

976
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 3: say goodbye to me, and and that like looking at

977
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: me makes boy's cave. And then he's like, you know,

978
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: call me if you need someone to talk to advice

979
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: the husband, and I go, I'm sorry, did he just

980
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: offer to be her husband when his roommate is dating her?

981
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 5: It was so weird, really funny, really funny scene.

982
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: It was funny, but Steven did a great job. Honestly.

983
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so uncomfortable. I think so too.

984
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: My entire storyline this season is uncomfortable and ridiculous.

985
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 5: But here, what to do with you? They were?

986
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: I mean they really Your stuff with Victoria is awesome,

987
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 4: but otherwise they're.

988
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 5: Like an independent woman.

989
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: Oh good god, what am I do with that?

990
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 5: Ain't that the truth? Ah?

991
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 4: Baby, you made it work. You made it work, and

992
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: you got that baby, which was like a sweet baby.

993
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 4: It was two of them, right.

994
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 5: I remember that baby.

995
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: She had so much hair and I loved she was

996
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: a little butterball I love.

997
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great shot at the end.

998
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, how weird for parents to bring their new baby

999
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: onto a set and have all these strangers want to

1000
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 4: touch it? Like I didn't think about that when we

1001
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 4: were in the thick of it, but now as a parent,

1002
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 4: I'm like.

1003
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 5: What, Yeah, so strange? I must be really, I don't know.

1004
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess to each their own. Maybe somebody's

1005
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 5: comfortable with it. It would make me so uncomfortable. I

1006
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 5: could not do that.

1007
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 4: Well, you also hit that point in early parenthood where

1008
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: you're like, anybody take this baby. So maybe that's the

1009
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 4: phase we like, that's actually improbably.

1010
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: If someone could just hold this for me.

1011
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just so sleep deprived. Like, am I gonna

1012
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 5: be allowed to sleep? Because I will hand this baby

1013
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 5: to you. If there is a friendly that I I

1014
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: need to.

1015
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: Go disassociate for thirty five minutes, someone take the baby.

1016
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: I spent last weekend with with my best friend and

1017
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: my godson, and one of her closest friends in Detroit

1018
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: has a six month old. She came to eat with

1019
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: us and like, you know, we sit down to eat

1020
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 3: and I'm like, give me the baby, and she's like, no, no, really,

1021
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 3: it's fine. And I was like, you have a six

1022
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: month old. You haven't been able to independently use your

1023
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: hands to eat a meal? Yeah, in more days than

1024
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: I bet you can remember, So just give me the baby.

1025
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: And she was like, oh my god, you so.

1026
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 5: Don't say no.

1027
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: Just give me the baby.

1028
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 5: We got, give me the baby.

1029
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: Let's pass this little boy around.

1030
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 5: I love it. Do they touch you? They're always they're

1031
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 5: always touching you and on you and pulling at you.

1032
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 5: And it's great, it's great that you did that for

1033
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 5: I can't I have a role now, Like I can't.

1034
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 5: She can't touch me when I'm eating, She'll do me no,

1035
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 5: Like I can't I did. It was too much when

1036
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 5: she was a baby. So now that she can eat independently,

1037
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously I get just twelve years old. But

1038
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 5: like for many years, I've said, just don't you cannot

1039
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 5: touch me if I'm eating. It's too stressful.

1040
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: George pinches when she's eating. She has a thing where

1041
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 4: when she's eating, she has to pinch your knuckles or

1042
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 4: your elbow.

1043
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 5: I thought that was just when you were reading her

1044
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 5: a story.

1045
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 4: It's all the time. But like it used to be

1046
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 4: when I was reading her story, she'd be like drinking

1047
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: her bottle and she would do it. No, she has

1048
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 4: to be pinching your loose flesh so that you feel

1049
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 4: so old and pruney and wrinkly. If she can find

1050
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: loose flesh on you, she's going for it. Ear lobes,

1051
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 4: She's real into those that. Yeah, she's a pincher.

1052
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. The last thing we have here is Barbara's back.

1053
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 5: Barbara at the end comes in as the nanny that

1054
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 5: Haley finally hires. I remember doing the scenes we were

1055
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 5: interviewing all those nanny's. Was pretty funny. But yeah, we

1056
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 5: hire Barbara. So I'm super excited that the barber's back.

1057
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 5: But that's Oh, that's right, because that's how she ends

1058
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 5: up in the cornfield with Nanny carry later, isn't it

1059
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 5: also how she ends up with skills? Oh you might

1060
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 5: be right about that.

1061
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: Guys. That is like that is a core memory.

1062
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 5: So much juicy stuff coming juicy, love it, ready for it?

1063
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 4: I'm into that all right? So what are your honorable

1064
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 4: mentions for this episode?

1065
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 5: What are we thinking? Robbie Jones for me? I guess

1066
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: I gotta say like he wins, he was so good.

1067
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: Do we have a fan question for this episode?

1068
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 5: What do we got? I also honorable mention to mouth

1069
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 5: having the ingredients for an apple martini and in his apartment.

1070
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 5: It's pretty funny.

1071
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 4: In an apple martini.

1072
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1073
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: I do not.

1074
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 5: I do not drink apple flavored gross.

1075
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 3: But like when you're twenty one, you think it's cool

1076
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: and fancy. I did, yeah, And now I go, you

1077
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 3: couldn't pay me. I wouldn't do it.

1078
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 5: Gross. Green apple martini is made with apple liqueur. That's

1079
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 5: where we stop right there. Vodka, apple liquor lemon juice. Gross.

1080
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 5: It's basically just like it's like a Jollie Rocks. Yeah,

1081
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 5: it's like a yeah, like a juice box or a

1082
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 5: jolly rancher. I bet that would be better.

1083
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 4: Like if you had a little Caprice Son apple juice

1084
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 4: with vodka some vodka.

1085
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: Cool would probably be delicious.

1086
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 5: I'm sure somebody's on a rap drink in that right now.

1087
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 4: All summer long. George can't say Caprice Son. She calls

1088
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 4: him prissants, and I thought she priissants, like she kept

1089
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 4: saying it like it was this fancy French drink, like Mom,

1090
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: I need a Priissants, and I'd be like, what are

1091
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: you talking about, Caprice Son. We're gonna call a Caprice

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00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 4: Son and vodka priissants.

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00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 5: Okay.

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00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 4: So our fan question is, if Haley and Nathan didn't

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00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 4: get married in high school, do you think they still

1096
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 4: would have ended up together? From Ashley, I don't think

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00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 4: it had anything to do with getting married, No, I

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00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 4: think it was having the kid together because they both

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00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 4: came from complicated parental relationships, and Haley's was certainly better

1100
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: than Nathan's. But I think they they both wanted to

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00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 4: reinvent what parenting looked like and committed to it. Yeah,

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00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 4: because every time you two fight in these like post

1103
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 4: high school years, it's always like well, let's pull our

1104
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: shit together for the kid, right, was figured it.

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00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 5: Out for if they didn't have the kid, though, do

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00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 5: you think No? I don't think so either. Yeah, I

1107
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 5: don't know.

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00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: No.

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00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 5: I think they both would have just moved on and

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00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 5: missed each other and like found other people, because I

1111
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 5: think a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of people will work things out for kids, and

1113
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: sometimes that's beautiful and sometimes they shouldn't. H Like, sometimes

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00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 3: people use.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not really working it out well.

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00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: Exactly, it's like you stay because of the kid, but

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00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: then you just model like a toxic, unhealthy relationship for

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00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 3: a kid who has to unpack it for the next

1119
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: twenty five years in therapy. Sorry kid, Sorry, So that's tough.

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Speaker 5: But like I also, I think.

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00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: It can be really interesting because I think sometimes like

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: the idea of kids, the idea of what your dynamic

1123
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: is going to be for children, can be the reason

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00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: people call it as well. Yeah, and so there really

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00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: is something interesting about Haley and Nathan because they got

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: pregnant so young that they had to evolve into a

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00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: dynamic together not only into their marriage as adults, but

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00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: into it with a baby. Yeah, you know, like that's

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: a lot of work that they had to do, and

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00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: I think I think as an audience, witnessing it and

1131
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: knowing they loved each other and knowing how hard they

1132
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: worked on it made us root for them. But yeah,

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00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: if they didn't have the kid, like, would would they

1134
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: have worked that hard? I don't know.

1135
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 4: Is there a faction of the audience that ever wanted

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00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: Haley to break up with Nathan and be with Lucas,

1137
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 4: like to do the Dawson's Creek thing, right?

1138
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 5: I remember hearing a little bit of that and some

1139
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 5: of the fan mail that I would get early on

1140
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 5: people like there was definitely a small, small, much smaller

1141
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 5: camp of people who are interested in that, but it

1142
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 5: went away pretty quickly. I never heard much of it

1143
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 5: after season two. Mm hmm. Yeah. And it was Lucas

1144
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 5: and Peyton. I mean, I think that was the story

1145
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 5: that had been set up since the pilot. That's that

1146
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 5: was the story that they had to finish and follow through.

1147
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 5: No turning back, kids, no turning back. Well, I'm glad

1148
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 5: that Haley and Nathan stayed married. Me too, and I

1149
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 5: find it believable.

1150
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: Like I just it's back to school time and I'm

1151
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 4: looking at my Facebook to see all of my friends'

1152
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 4: kids going to school. And I love the couples from

1153
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 4: my hometown that are still together from high school, like

1154
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 4: so sweet. Their kids are old as hell, they had

1155
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 4: kids like ight away kids are going to college now

1156
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 4: and I can love it. Good for them. Do we

1157
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 4: want to spin a wheel?

1158
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 5: Give me that wheel and a spinning This week's most

1159
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 5: likely too, most likely to win big at a casino?

1160
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: Well, we don't gamble, so yeah, that's what you just said.

1161
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is big?

1162
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 5: All right?

1163
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 4: Character? Which characters take it at home? Deb's got casino energy?

1164
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 5: Yes, you know what I mean.

1165
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like deb at the craps table, just clean it up.

1166
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I want that for her so bad,

1167
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 5: to just walk out of there with like one hundred

1168
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 5: thousand dollars and.

1169
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: Be like, yeah, she's a what I mean? And it

1170
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: might be Barb in real life.

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00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say too, it feels like Barbara. Yeah,

1172
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 5: because Barbara just feels like a lucky woman, like her

1173
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 5: daughters are amazing, everything's always like, you know, she's just

1174
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 5: such a positive force and always always nice. Good things

1175
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 5: happen around Barbara.

1176
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: Yep, She's so vividly alive. And I love that now

1177
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 4: that two of her daughters are adults. They're just like

1178
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 4: doing cool girls trips together, like their trips all over America.

1179
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: There's got to be a casino in there somewhere. I'm

1180
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 4: I'll call Emily, girl. You and your mama win some money,

1181
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 4: I hope. So, all right, what's next week? I'm gonna

1182
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 4: watch next week's episode now that I now that I'm

1183
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 4: all caught up. Uh, Season five, episode fifteen, Life is short.

1184
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 4: That's an understatement. All right, ladies, thanks for covering for

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01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: me this week.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's kind of fun. Fill in the blanks are fun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, see ya, Hey, thanks for listening.

1188
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