WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: Does the five-second rule work?

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<v Speaker 1>M Hey everyone, it's me Josh and for this week's

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<v Speaker 1>s Y s K Selects, I've chosen this episode on

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<v Speaker 1>the five second rule, and I want to point out

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<v Speaker 1>that my opinion on what constitutes something that can be

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<v Speaker 1>eaten off of the floor has narrowed dramatically since this

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<v Speaker 1>episode came out in January of two. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>also surprised to figure out how many of my um

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<v Speaker 1>cleanliness habits actually came from researching this episode. Maybe it'll

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of positive impact on you too. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only one way to find out, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy this episode. Thank you. Welcome to Stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know from house stuff Works dot com. Hey, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, Charles W. Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant's consulting his notes, he's wearing his classes. Everybody's getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to podcast. So that this stuff, you know, stretching,

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<v Speaker 1>doing my yoga. You just pat for the fourth time

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<v Speaker 1>in the last hour, got more coffee and drink a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of coffee. But that was exciting. Yeah, And while

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting coffee, I was like, I used my

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<v Speaker 1>elbow to press the buttons to make coffee. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing that now, Um, I have become I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think back to what initiated it, but I've definitely become

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<v Speaker 1>far more germ conscious. I'm not a germophobe, because I

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<v Speaker 1>can just be like, oh god, you know that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You your fingers touched your mouth, stop simpering, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I can get ahold of myself like that. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, you know what it is. It was

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<v Speaker 1>that it was flesh eating bacteria when it was going

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<v Speaker 1>around Georgia for a little while. And then simultaneously like

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<v Speaker 1>being aware that, like the gym is lousy with germs,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that did a one two number

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<v Speaker 1>on me, and all of a sudden, I'm just very

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very aware of what I touch. Yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>super germ conscious. I have been more so though since

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<v Speaker 1>we've started learning more about this crap um. But we

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<v Speaker 1>have a mutual friend whose girlfriend won't even keep her

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<v Speaker 1>toothbrush in the bathroom. Oh really, Yeah, she said, why

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<v Speaker 1>would I among the fecal air? Why would I keep

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<v Speaker 1>my toothbrush in the bathroom? Makes sense? Yeah, And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she knows who she is. I don't know who she is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you after. Um, so you're kind of you're

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<v Speaker 1>okay with it, You're okay with the idea of germs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is this whole there's this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>called the hygiene hypothesis, which makes uttering complete sense to

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<v Speaker 1>me that if you're allow more germs and you'll just

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<v Speaker 1>learn to fight them and have more robust immune systems. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially growing up as a child and the children who

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<v Speaker 1>develop allergies, it's because they are raised in a sterile

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<v Speaker 1>lisol environment. My environment was filthy, dirty, and and so

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<v Speaker 1>when they finally get out into this very filthy an

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<v Speaker 1>the world e g Um preschool, Yeah, they are. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any anybody's built up for it. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. I don't know that there's any

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<v Speaker 1>hard science that backs it up, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's ever been disproven. But that's called the hygiene

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<v Speaker 1>hypods It appeals to me. It appeals to me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't have allergies. I don't get sick that much. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm unhealthy as it gets. I wouldn't call you that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the middle. Yes, I appreciate that. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess really the division line between a germophobe in a

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<v Speaker 1>non germophobe would probably be found somewhere in the five

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<v Speaker 1>second rule. When don't you think sure? So, like if

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped something, depending on what it was and where

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped it, I would possibly eat it. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a comedian here in Atlanta. It's pretty good. It

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<v Speaker 1>names no Garden Schwartz and he's saying, yeah, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>means Noah Black Garden, I think and uh. He was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, Um, the five second role is basically exists

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<v Speaker 1>on a sliding scale. Like if it's a piece of broccoli,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a zero second agreed. If it's like a cheeto,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a whenever I find it rule. Whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>find it, pick it up and eat it. Roll. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He does it way better than me. But he had

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<v Speaker 1>a great observation about the five second role. The point

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<v Speaker 1>is for me, it depends on what it is where

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<v Speaker 1>it is, not really even how long it's been there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if it's because there's so long and

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<v Speaker 1>it's under the couch and there's like dust bunnies accumulated

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<v Speaker 1>on it, I won't eat it. No, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't eat anything that you didn't recently drop. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>if you just found a cookie on the floor, you

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<v Speaker 1>would eat it. Again, it depends on where where it

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<v Speaker 1>was found. Like some places seem far cleaner to me

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<v Speaker 1>than other's, Like my in Numi's apartment is very very clean. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So if it fell and was just slightly under the couch,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah I would. Yeah, I'd eat it. It depends.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it were a piece of salami or something,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. But if it were like a very dry cookie,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps they a good potato chip, Yeah, that wasn't stale yet,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very clean, I would blow it off and eat it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would. Um, since we're talking about our sliding scales,

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<v Speaker 1>I would eat nothing that I didn't recently drop, unless

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<v Speaker 1>it was a if it was like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>sweets Um the King, they're candy bar the King. If

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<v Speaker 1>I found one of those that I had just forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>that was under my couch, unwrapped on the floor, I

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<v Speaker 1>would eat that no matter how long it had been there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would maybe rinse it off, or I would melt

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<v Speaker 1>it down or in reform it or do something deconstructed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I would do that. Um, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>released a box a selection of caramels called stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>Should Eat a little Bit Sweet stuyah, and it says

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<v Speaker 1>specifically on their website that that's in honor of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, listen jen Um. Okay, So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we've gone in depth on what we do with the

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<v Speaker 1>five second rule. The question still remains, Chuck, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it viable? Is that a real thing? Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you are an adherent to the five second

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<v Speaker 1>rule and you're like, I'm a very clean person. I

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<v Speaker 1>only eat stuff that's been on the floor for five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds or less. Are you full of it? Well, you're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of full of it. You're totally full of it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a high school student UH in two thousand three,

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<v Speaker 1>Jillian Clark and UM. She was doing her internship at

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<v Speaker 1>the UH fighting L I and I of the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Illinois, and she said, you know what, we should

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<v Speaker 1>do a little study because it's the old wives tale

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<v Speaker 1>about the five second rule. And she coded, um, these

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<v Speaker 1>tiles with E. Coli, which is really gross, and drop

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<v Speaker 1>cookies and gummy bears and things onto the surface for

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<v Speaker 1>certain amounts of time and then studied what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria picked up And of course no matter how long

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<v Speaker 1>have they been down there, bacteria did jump onto the

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<v Speaker 1>food within five seconds. What is important to point out, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is the long you left it there, the more it

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<v Speaker 1>picked up. So the five seconds are under is important.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's usually not five seconds for me. If I

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<v Speaker 1>drop a piece of food, I've got it back within

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<v Speaker 1>my hand in like two seconds. I've seen it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a ninja. And it matters because the

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<v Speaker 1>longest they are, the more bacteria it's gonna pick up. Right, Yeah, yeah, um.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jillian Clark just did this very initial preliminary investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was a pioneer and received the two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>four Ignoble Prize for Public Health for her efforts. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she kind of she established this trail. She

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<v Speaker 1>blazed the trail. Uh. And then about four years later,

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<v Speaker 1>some closing university researchers really kind of dug in to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what was going on with this five second

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<v Speaker 1>rule and built on Clark's work. Tigers. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta say it. I don't feel like we do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>screw you, tigers. Um, all right, so what did they

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<v Speaker 1>found out? They found out, Well, if you thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, right, if you thought the E. Coli

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria and the tiles was gross, and where you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys created a broth of salmonella. They call it

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<v Speaker 1>salmonella soup, which is so nasty. Yeah, and they they

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<v Speaker 1>applied it to three different types of material, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like sure, maybe five seconds you're gonna get some bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>on it. But what if what doesn't it depend on

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of food. Doesn't it depend on the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of surface that comes in contact with So these investigators

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<v Speaker 1>their pros they were at Clemson. Um, they applied to

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<v Speaker 1>salmonella soup to tile, would surface and carpet, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they started dropping bread and bologny on it. Good choice,

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<v Speaker 1>why not? Um? And they they found what Clark found

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<v Speaker 1>that in less than five seconds, no matter how short

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, but there was a bacterial transfer, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>between a hundred and fifty and eight thousand bacteria if

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<v Speaker 1>under five seconds, and consider this with salmonella, you only

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<v Speaker 1>need ten individual bacterium too for what's called an infectious dose. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is five seconds or under. If he left

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<v Speaker 1>it down there for a minute, it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be ten times that. And um, there are ten strains

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<v Speaker 1>of salmonella not I mean, besides just the bacteria, it's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of stuff going on down there on

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<v Speaker 1>your floor, most notably poop on your shoes. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing too, everywhere. But you should you should take

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<v Speaker 1>your shoes off. My wife is of Japanese ancestry, and

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely picked up from hers, like you take your

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<v Speaker 1>shoes off when you come in the house, so you

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<v Speaker 1>just walk around without shoes on all the all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>or slippers or something. Yeah, because like, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 1>germ conscious, man, if you go into a public bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>and you walk out of there, you're the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>your shoes are just like a nightmare. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to track that all over your house because you may

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<v Speaker 1>find a cookie on your couch that you want to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to plan for the future basically, and that

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<v Speaker 1>starts with taking your shoes off in your house. For

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, I don't think the Japanese culture is rooted

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<v Speaker 1>in the hopes that you'll find a cookie on your

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<v Speaker 1>floor and be able to eat it. No, maybe not,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are bigging into taking their shoes. My friend

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<v Speaker 1>Jason and in Tokyo that he is married to a

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<v Speaker 1>woman in Keiko and years ago when we're living in Athens,

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<v Speaker 1>they started that tradition of removing your shoes and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, you mind, I was like, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>not watch this. Well. Sometimes they will even provide like

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<v Speaker 1>slippers and stuff for guests, like if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese home, so you're still wearing shoes in there, But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you point have never left your house, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the deal. Yes, and I don't like wild environment,

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<v Speaker 1>you're all good. Yeah, And I won't wear my slippers

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<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom either. I gotta tell you, I just

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<v Speaker 1>got some new slippers. What go barefoot in there? The

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<v Speaker 1>socks or whatever? Yeah, okay, but like I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to burn the socks cut my feet. I bought some

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<v Speaker 1>new slippers. Dude. I'm not usually wanted to plug things

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<v Speaker 1>on the air, But if you're a grown man and

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<v Speaker 1>you want some the best slippers you've ever had, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't mind throwing down little cash us men slippers,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, what do you think I wear that we were? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they're the same ones. They are like

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<v Speaker 1>little loafer sort of swede. Mine don't have a back.

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<v Speaker 1>They just have this soul have a back, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have like the hard bottom, so you can go out

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<v Speaker 1>and get in the mail or if you're me, go

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<v Speaker 1>to the grocery store. Man, it's so comfortable and all

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<v Speaker 1>the what is it upper or whatever, it's not as sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called sharper lining. Oh is it? Yeah? The sheep

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<v Speaker 1>shear that's what That's what some people call it. So cozy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so slippers. I need to start plugging these things and

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<v Speaker 1>giving them for free. I'm a sucker. Always buy them

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<v Speaker 1>and then plug them, right, but it's not a sucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck here above the boards. Okay, Um, So back to it. Oh. So,

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<v Speaker 1>the longer the stuff stayed in contact the more the

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<v Speaker 1>more it was, the more bacteria that came upon it.

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<v Speaker 1>But surprisingly what they found was that the transfer was

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<v Speaker 1>the least for carpet. The type of surface that came

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<v Speaker 1>in contact with made a difference. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>the most for carpet was the least. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>least transferred. But the stuff survived in the carpet longer,

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<v Speaker 1>so it all washed out. So it made some difference,

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<v Speaker 1>but not really. Whether it's wood, tyler carpet, when you

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<v Speaker 1>drop something on it, there's going to be a a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bacteria transfer. But this stuff survives on these services. Carpet,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of like, okay, yeah, there's a lot to it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's pile and you know, there's some sort of Berber

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<v Speaker 1>factor and all that. Um, you can't forget the Berber factory, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, of course, Carpet, that's not much of a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise that there's a lot of bacteria in there. But

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<v Speaker 1>would or tile Not only do they find that, like

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff can survive for a while, it survives for

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<v Speaker 1>up to a month. A month after they put this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on there, a month later there was still living

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria enough for an infectious dose on all three surfaces.

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<v Speaker 1>A dude, that's okay, I'm becoming more of a drama fobe.

0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.839
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, we're all turning into David Putty right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, remember he and Peggy who called Elaine Suze Susie.

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<v Speaker 1>They both turned out to be germaphobes. They had like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bacteria. Yeah, remember Cramer made a radish rose

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<v Speaker 1>in his shower. He had a garbage disposal in his

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<v Speaker 1>shower so he could remember bathe at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that episode. Um, so I know earlier you mentioned, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of off handedly said, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's something dry like a cookie, or that actually makes

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. You found out that moisture can be the

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<v Speaker 1>key to more bacteria transfer. Um, So a dry cookie

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<v Speaker 1>versus a piece of like wet bologna or salami or

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<v Speaker 1>moist bolognay I said, moist bologny, Um, we'll have more bacteria.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why they say when you go to the

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<v Speaker 1>restroom and you wash your hands, the drying is just

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<v Speaker 1>as important, if not more important than the watching. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they found that, um, this transfer bacteria seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>facilitated by moisture. Right, so when you touch something with

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<v Speaker 1>your wet hands, you're gonna get a bunch of a

0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.840
<v Speaker 1>bunch of bacteria transferred onto your hands. If you wash

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<v Speaker 1>your hands and then use one of those hands free

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<v Speaker 1>paper towels spencers and dry your hands, you can touch

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<v Speaker 1>that a surface that you would have touched with your

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<v Speaker 1>wet hands, and you're gonna have far less bacteria transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Yea, or nowadays the air dryers in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>have have you noticed in the past few years or

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<v Speaker 1>just like for fifty years, it was the same air dryer. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>now there's the accelerator. Now there's the accelerator and the

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<v Speaker 1>Dyson blade dryer. I like the accelerator because the Dison

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<v Speaker 1>blade do you have to stick your hands down in

0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.080
<v Speaker 1>there like that and it's almost like playing operation, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost impossible not to touch the side, and then like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what does anyone clean the bottom of those things? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. The accelerator, it's all just like

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<v Speaker 1>blowing your hands and you're you're done, and it's you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot touch things more. It's true. I like the accelerator

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<v Speaker 1>because the the way it makes your skin ripple, like

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<v Speaker 1>the g forces is pretty amazing. Like we were in

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<v Speaker 1>the indoor skydiving thing. Oh yeah, exactly. And let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about hands real quick, chuck. So there's a study that

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the University of Colorado at Boulder and

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<v Speaker 1>UM they found some really surprising things using this technique

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<v Speaker 1>called metagenomics where they take a swab of like a

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<v Speaker 1>sample off of your hands and then rather than doing culture,

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<v Speaker 1>they do basically a DNA profile for everything found in

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<v Speaker 1>that swab. What they find, well, they did fifty one participants.

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<v Speaker 1>They found different bacteria species across the fifty one participants UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and what what I found was particularly interesting. They found

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<v Speaker 1>that um only five percent of these species were found

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<v Speaker 1>in all fifty one participants. No, five period, not even percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, five period. So out of all these species

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<v Speaker 1>only when we're sharing. So that means we there's just

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<v Speaker 1>way more out there than we thought, I guess. Huh ye,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just luck of the drawers to what leaps

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<v Speaker 1>to your hands, I guess so. And not only your hands,

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<v Speaker 1>but specific hands too. They found that the right and

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<v Speaker 1>left palms of a single person shared only seventeen percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the bacterial species, So that means there's different species

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<v Speaker 1>on different hands of the same person. That's weird. And

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<v Speaker 1>then women tend to have a higher diversity of bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>on their hands than men. Not necessarily more uh bacteria total,

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<v Speaker 1>but more diversity among species. Interesting. So depending on which

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<v Speaker 1>hand you shake, you're going to be getting a different

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<v Speaker 1>type of bacteria from someone. Yeah. And if somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>shakes your hand is like, oh, it's just water, I

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<v Speaker 1>washed my hand, punch them in the head because you're

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<v Speaker 1>that's bacterial transfer. Jerk dry your hands. Yeah, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and since you mentioned women. Um, I think the study

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<v Speaker 1>by the girl in two thousand three found that women

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<v Speaker 1>are more likely to eat something off the floor than men,

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<v Speaker 1>which surprised me. What surprised me is where the person

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote this article got that. I couldn't find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone didn't either. I saw that women were more familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the concept of the five second rule, but that

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<v Speaker 1>not that they used it more. Yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call that a dubious statement, then dubious indeed. Uh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've eaten something off the floor? Are we get

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<v Speaker 1>on hands? Yeah? Thanks for that, okay. I like in

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<v Speaker 1>the article they pointed out that out of the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one participants, there were a hundred and two hands. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, all right, so good. You didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any amputees in the study, right. What was funny is

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<v Speaker 1>I was I didn't think it added up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that's why I stopped for a second a

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<v Speaker 1>minute ago. Um, all right, so you've picked up a

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<v Speaker 1>cookie off of the floor, it's dry, it's been down

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<v Speaker 1>there for three seconds, and you think, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna roll the dice and eat it because my

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<v Speaker 1>stomach acids and the acids, and my saliva is going

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<v Speaker 1>to kill all this stuff factor fiction. That is fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>That is very much fiction. So says uh. The germ

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<v Speaker 1>guru of the University of Arizona, go, what are they? Wildcats?

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<v Speaker 1>Sun devils? Who's the Arizona State? That's Arizona State. Arizona's wildcats,

0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:57.800
<v Speaker 1>cats go wildcats. Charles Gerba, his name almost looks like germ,

0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:02.119
<v Speaker 1>yeah close or gerb closer than Clark. Like he's the

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<v Speaker 1>adult version of the Gerber baby. So he says that

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<v Speaker 1>uh virus is actually uh survived the low pH In fact,

0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them like it, and that pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>any bacteria that you can infect your intestine with is

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<v Speaker 1>going to stay alive long enough to get to your intestine, right,

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it's going to survive that that acidity in your stomach. Yeah. Look, look,

0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.520
<v Speaker 1>look for a podcast on digestion. That was a good one. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>That was great if you want to learn how that works. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And it does make a difference on where it's landed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, Um, some floors are more dangerous than others.

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<v Speaker 1>In bathrooms are the worst place on earth. Yeah, And kitchens,

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<v Speaker 1>actually kitchens are the worst. There's supposedly dirtier than bathrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the bathroom. But yeah, Gerba points out

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<v Speaker 1>that of all the shoes that he's ever analyzed, and

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<v Speaker 1>this guy like runs around on Good Morning America in

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<v Speaker 1>the Today Show and like analyze this stuff and just

0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:59.800
<v Speaker 1>freaks people out. It's like kind of his um, his trade. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he said that the fecal matter appears on about of

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<v Speaker 1>the shoes he's ever analyzed. Of course it does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, there's poop everywhere, poop everywhere, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>my house. So uh yeah, you'd think of public restrooms

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bad, and it is, but it depends on what

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<v Speaker 1>part of the public restroom you're talking about, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>compared to other places that it doesn't hold a candle.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some surprising germ statistics that were about to unleash

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<v Speaker 1>on you. Let's start with uh, let's just jump all over.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I got the kitchen floor. UM, the area on

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen floor just in front of your sink. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing your dishes and dropping food and poop.

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<v Speaker 1>UM has more bacteria than your trash can square inch

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to four eleven, So double um and your

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen sponge I know everyone knows that that's a really

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<v Speaker 1>filthy thing to have. You remember that one necessary but filthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the I think the Clorox wipes or lights Al

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<v Speaker 1>wipes commerce Still where the lady was using a sponge

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<v Speaker 1>or like, if you're using a sponge, you might as

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<v Speaker 1>well be doing this, and she was just rubbing like

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<v Speaker 1>a raw chicken breast on her counter like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a sponge. That's basically true, though. It's like you you

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<v Speaker 1>should be really careful with your sponge, what you clean

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<v Speaker 1>with it, what you don't clean with it, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>letting it dry out, changing it like regularly. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a two month old kitchen sponge and you're

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<v Speaker 1>using that to wipe your counter, you were spreading bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. You don't love your family, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can use it at first, is what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm a clean guy. My wife is not. I

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<v Speaker 1>will clean up after her with a sponge and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go back with my organic spray and then do

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<v Speaker 1>the paper towel wipe after that. That's the final step

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 1>in the process. As always, the dry paper towel with

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<v Speaker 1>my seventh seven stuff is what I used. And then

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of lighter fluid sterilized the counter. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So your kitchen floor is is dirtier than your trash can.

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<v Speaker 1>Your sponge holds sixty times more bacteria than your pet

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<v Speaker 1>food bowl, even though pet food bowls are pretty gross too,

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly because you don't clean them out as much. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this is germier than a toilet seat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You always hear that the old toilet seat. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the reason why the toilet seat is surprisingly

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<v Speaker 1>cleaner in comparison, or surprisingly germ free compared to other

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<v Speaker 1>things like your kitchen sink and all that is because

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<v Speaker 1>people clean the toilet seat more frequently because they think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as a dirty place. And this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of borne out in another study that Gerba carried out

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of the Chlorox Corporation, who make lights all wipes, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and he found that one of the dirtiest places in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe is a person's desk. And he found that, um, apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>the average desk has a hundred times more bacteria than

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<v Speaker 1>a kitchen table and four hundred times more bacteria than

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<v Speaker 1>the average toilet. And one of the reasons is because

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<v Speaker 1>people don't ever wipe this down. So he did the

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<v Speaker 1>study where he divided workers into two groups. One group

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<v Speaker 1>used these sanitizing wipes once or twice a day, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the other group didn't, and after two days there

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<v Speaker 1>was a ninety nine point nine percent reduction in bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>on the desk of the people who are using the wipe.

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<v Speaker 1>So wiping down your telephone, hands at your dead mouse

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<v Speaker 1>is a big one. Your mouse, you'll let your a

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<v Speaker 1>keyboard apparently where you typically rest your hand on your

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<v Speaker 1>desk minds on my mouse, um has about ten million

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>bacteria on average. UM. But he also found that over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of a day, if you don't wipe your

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<v Speaker 1>stuff down, you actually increase your bacteria from nineteen to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one on telephone, mouse, keyboard, desktop surfaces. Throughout a day,

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<v Speaker 1>it increases that much more. Man, I haven't cleaned my

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<v Speaker 1>desk in so long. It's been a while for me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't use the phone though I don't either. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no one calls us. I don't even know my number

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<v Speaker 1>to give out, and and anytimes if somebody asked for

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like just email. Yeah, that's what I do. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Molly At, the former co host of Stuff Mom, never

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<v Speaker 1>told you back in the day she wrote about cubicle

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<v Speaker 1>death and specifically germs in the workplace, like we were

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about and um, she points out that and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a restaurant and you have more than seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bacteria per square inch, you're going to be considered unsanitary.

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<v Speaker 1>But you will come into contact with ten million bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>day in your office. And statistics like people eat at

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<v Speaker 1>their desk and don't clean. I eat at my desk occasionally.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't clean of people, uh only occasionally will wipe

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<v Speaker 1>down their work area. And um, your desktop itself, not

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the computer desktop, but your desk. It's a hundred times

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<v Speaker 1>Germany or than a kitchen table and four hunh again,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred times Germany or than a toilet seat. And

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<v Speaker 1>presentee is um, which is a big problem. Uh se

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<v Speaker 1>shent of workers, I'm sorry. One third of workers that's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's close reported to the National Foundation for Infectious

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<v Speaker 1>Diseases that they felt like they were obligated to go

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<v Speaker 1>to work even when they were sick. Yeah, that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. It's not okay. And I know around here,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Tracy are from she takes it pretty serious. She's

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<v Speaker 1>like she gets piste off. When people are in here sick,

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>she'll yell yeah, she'll say, if you're sick, please stay home. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>because the office is dirty, your bathrooms dirty, your kitchens dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>That cutting board that you're cutting your vegetables on filthy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all dirty, it's all gross. Well, I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think of what episode biofilm came up.

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<v Speaker 1>You were telling everybody about biofilm. Oh yeah, what was that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't for the life of me remember. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how bacteria survive. That's how they can survive on

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>stainless steel, That's how they can survive on wood, on tile,

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<v Speaker 1>on non poor service is on synthetic surfaces that are

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<v Speaker 1>designed to keep bacteria from thriving. These things can survive

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<v Speaker 1>because they live in biofilm. Yeah, it's this protective um

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<v Speaker 1>film on any surface. And if a surface has grooves

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<v Speaker 1>or things like that that where a biofilm can hide,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a lot more bacteria. And cutting

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<v Speaker 1>board apparently is one of those great examples, especially a

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<v Speaker 1>wood cutting board, I think, yeah, which I prefer me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a clean and well though, Yeah, because I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>have some bacteria in my food than like shards of plastic.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, it's a good point. Um, So before

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<v Speaker 1>you freak out and jump in a pool of pure

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<v Speaker 1>l most of these germs are benign. Like we've quoted

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<v Speaker 1>all these tens of thousands and millions of germs and things,

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<v Speaker 1>most of urbanign, and your body's going to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of most of it too. But it only takes like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you find yourself retching over the toilet

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<v Speaker 1>with a stomach virus, it might have just been one

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<v Speaker 1>little bacteria that got through, and all it takes is

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<v Speaker 1>ten for salmon alody gets you in a hundred for E. Coli,

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<v Speaker 1>ten ten little guys the bottom of a woman's purse randomly.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Gerba again just ran up to some people and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, let me test your purse. And he found

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<v Speaker 1>um from the hundreds to six point seven million on

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of one woman's purse. And he didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>that that also had like pieces of pot pie, and like,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>there are probably reasons, but I think that was that one.

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 1>That's a good thing to go out and took you

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<v Speaker 1>to goodbye, reassuring everybody that as long as your immune

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>system is in order, you're probably Okay, as far as

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 1>these bacteria go. Don't keep your toothbrush in your bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>so says our friends care rn. UM. Let's see before

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<v Speaker 1>we say anything like listener mail or go find this article.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do a quick shout out. Okay, do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Archiva team Chuck recently hit a very significant milestone. One

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<v Speaker 1>point five million dollars in loans. Wow. That's enormous. Not

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<v Speaker 1>say it? Oh? Yeah. Kiva the Kiva dot organism micro

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<v Speaker 1>lending site where you can make loans and little twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollar increments to people in the developing world to

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<v Speaker 1>use for entrepreneurship, to um have their taxi license, to

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<v Speaker 1>buy oxen, to retail clothes, what have you, UM farming whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and um Archiva team has doled out one point five

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<v Speaker 1>million in these twenty five dollar loans. That's just such

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>an amazing accomplishment. Yeah. When we started this, we had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that it was gonna have legs like this. Yeah,

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 1>and I mean we're gonna keep it going perpect to it,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are. One of the reasons I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>shout out is because we are resetting our goals. We're

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<v Speaker 1>setting our goal to two million dollars by the summer

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<v Speaker 1>solstice June one. It's an international date, right, um and Glenn,

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<v Speaker 1>the team leader at Kiva, came up with this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a sound idea. Yeah, thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn and Sonia as always. So we're going to UH

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<v Speaker 1>two million by June twenty one. And if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to join us in this, we are not the least

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<v Speaker 1>bit exclusive. We're a very inclusive and welcoming group of people.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to UM www dot Kiva, k I

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<v Speaker 1>So it's time for listener mail. It is Josh. This

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<v Speaker 1>is We are just a few days away from our

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<v Speaker 1>TV show premiere. That when we would be remiss. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're probably tired of hearing about it by now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not We would be premiss if we didn't remind

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<v Speaker 1>following the season premiere of Ricky Gervais's Idiot Abroad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>with Carl Pilkington. That comes on first, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>come on at ten with two brand new the first

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<v Speaker 1>Um and uh we we think you're gonna like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh us and we play ourselves. But it's setting

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<v Speaker 1>everybody likes it. Yeah, as we have said before, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the real US in a fictional world, spelling factual information.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes that's a red tagline. All right. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>stuck around for this listenermail because it's pretty good. This

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>is from Ben. Uh guys, my name has been. I'm

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a thirty year old husband and father. Never consider myself

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a very smart man. I did mediocre in high school. Uh,

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>not because of lack of trying, but because being viewed

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>as a lazy student, and I was just socially awkward.

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, my wife has talked me into catching

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<v Speaker 1>up with your podcast, and since then I've gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>smartphone and done so. And all I can say is

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you guys from the bottom of my heart. Um,

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>it just helped me become a better husband and father.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain. After high school, I became a father

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to a beautiful boy with an ex girlfriend who was

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>not the best person. Due to some heart complications, my

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>son Logan passed away four days after his first birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>This resulted in me not following through with college, shutting

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<v Speaker 1>down emotionally, basically becoming angry at the world and God

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>for my son's passing. To put it bluntly, I became

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>someone who I said I never would become. It was

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>full of hate. The years that followed in my life

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>was just gray as I went through the motions of life.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Things turned around when I met my wife Jordan, got

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>married and had our son, Raydon. And yes I didn't

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>name him Radin after Mortal Kombat, and then I was

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>turned on your podcast after listening to over two hundred

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>of them, you two have opened a hard spot in

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>my heart. After listening to you guys and hearing how

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>good natured you are, I myself have been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>give everything in life a fair chance and have become

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<v Speaker 1>more of a good Harvard person who no longer battles

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>something bad within myself. I know right, I'm happier in

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>life than ever before, and I have my wife and

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>son and now Chuck and Josh to thank for helping.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to further my education. I can't stop reading

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and learning, and I save your show so when my

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>one year old son is old enough, he can experience

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>something that changes daddy's life for the better, just like

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>he and his mommy did. So. I can't thank you

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>guys enough for all I've done without even knowing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes all it takes is good hearts and a good

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<v Speaker 1>are Evan Ohio, I would like to play about the

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>drink that is from Ben children May and Ben thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for that. We're not even trying. I dude, I

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>read this stuff and I'm just like, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool? Like what are you supposed to say

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to that? Thank you? So thanks ben Um. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get in touch with chucking me about five

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<v Speaker 1>second rule, how about this. We want to know the

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<v Speaker 1>nastiest thing you've ever eaten, whether it was something that

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<v Speaker 1>was prepared, something that touched the ground, tell us, tell

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>us your nasty eating story. Yeah, and if you're one

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<v Speaker 1>of those kids. I had friends in elementary school that

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>would have like gross eating contests, that would like throw

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>mashed potatoes on the floor and then eat them. I

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>explored that once. I was like, you know what, maybe

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe I am that kid. Let's let's find out. And

0:33:58.360 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I ate a sticker that was on the ground was

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>some hair attached to it, and I was like, no,

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to keep seeking my persona because that not me. Yeah. Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we want to know about them, right, Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe you held out I mean that long that story.

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