1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: M Hey everyone, it's me Josh and for this week's 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: s Y s K Selects, I've chosen this episode on 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: the five second rule, and I want to point out 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: that my opinion on what constitutes something that can be 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: eaten off of the floor has narrowed dramatically since this 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: episode came out in January of two. And I was 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: also surprised to figure out how many of my um 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: cleanliness habits actually came from researching this episode. Maybe it'll 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: have some sort of positive impact on you too. Who knows. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: There's only one way to find out, and that is 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: to enjoy this episode. Thank you. Welcome to Stuff you 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: Should Know from house stuff Works dot com. Hey, and 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, Charles W. Chuck 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Bryant's consulting his notes, he's wearing his classes. Everybody's getting 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: ready to podcast. So that this stuff, you know, stretching, 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: doing my yoga. You just pat for the fourth time 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: in the last hour, got more coffee and drink a 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of coffee. But that was exciting. Yeah, And while 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: I was getting coffee, I was like, I used my 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: elbow to press the buttons to make coffee. Are you 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: doing that now, Um, I have become I'm trying to 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: think back to what initiated it, but I've definitely become 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: far more germ conscious. I'm not a germophobe, because I 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: can just be like, oh god, you know that's fine. 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: You your fingers touched your mouth, stop simpering, right, Like 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: I can get ahold of myself like that. But at 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: the same time, you know what it is. It was 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: that it was flesh eating bacteria when it was going 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: around Georgia for a little while. And then simultaneously like 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: being aware that, like the gym is lousy with germs, 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: and I think that that did a one two number 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: on me, and all of a sudden, I'm just very 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm very aware of what I touch. Yeah, I'm not 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: super germ conscious. I have been more so though since 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: we've started learning more about this crap um. But we 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: have a mutual friend whose girlfriend won't even keep her 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: toothbrush in the bathroom. Oh really, Yeah, she said, why 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: would I among the fecal air? Why would I keep 39 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: my toothbrush in the bathroom? Makes sense? Yeah, And uh, 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: she knows who she is. I don't know who she is. 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: I'll tell you after. Um, so you're kind of you're 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: okay with it, You're okay with the idea of germs. 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there is this whole there's this whole thing 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: called the hygiene hypothesis, which makes uttering complete sense to 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: me that if you're allow more germs and you'll just 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: learn to fight them and have more robust immune systems. Yes, 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 1: especially growing up as a child and the children who 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: develop allergies, it's because they are raised in a sterile 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: lisol environment. My environment was filthy, dirty, and and so 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: when they finally get out into this very filthy an 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: the world e g Um preschool, Yeah, they are. They 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: don't have any anybody's built up for it. It makes 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I don't know that there's any 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: hard science that backs it up, but I don't know 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: that it's ever been disproven. But that's called the hygiene 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: hypods It appeals to me. It appeals to me. I'm 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: not I don't have allergies. I don't get sick that much. No, 58 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: and I'm unhealthy as it gets. I wouldn't call you that. No, 59 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle. Yes, I appreciate that. Okay, I 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: guess really the division line between a germophobe in a 61 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: non germophobe would probably be found somewhere in the five 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: second rule. When don't you think sure? So, like if 63 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: I dropped something, depending on what it was and where 64 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I dropped it, I would possibly eat it. There's a 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: there's a comedian here in Atlanta. It's pretty good. It 66 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: names no Garden Schwartz and he's saying, yeah, yeah, it 67 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: means Noah Black Garden, I think and uh. He was 68 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: saying that, Um, the five second role is basically exists 69 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: on a sliding scale. Like if it's a piece of broccoli, 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: it's like a zero second agreed. If it's like a cheeto, 71 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: it's like a whenever I find it rule. Whenever I 72 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: find it, pick it up and eat it. Roll. Um. 73 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: He does it way better than me. But he had 74 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: a great observation about the five second role. The point 75 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: is for me, it depends on what it is where 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: it is, not really even how long it's been there. 77 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if if it's because there's so long and 78 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: it's under the couch and there's like dust bunnies accumulated 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: on it, I won't eat it. No, no, no, you 80 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't eat anything that you didn't recently drop. Would you 81 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: if you just found a cookie on the floor, you 82 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: would eat it. Again, it depends on where where it 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: was found. Like some places seem far cleaner to me 84 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: than other's, Like my in Numi's apartment is very very clean. Sure, 85 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: So if it fell and was just slightly under the couch, 86 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: yeah yeah I would. Yeah, I'd eat it. It depends. 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if it were a piece of salami or something, 88 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. But if it were like a very dry cookie, 89 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: perhaps they a good potato chip, Yeah, that wasn't stale yet, 90 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: it's very clean, I would blow it off and eat it. Yeah, 91 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: I would. Um, since we're talking about our sliding scales, 92 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: I would eat nothing that I didn't recently drop, unless 93 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: it was a if it was like a little bit 94 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: sweets Um the King, they're candy bar the King. If 95 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: I found one of those that I had just forgotten 96 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: that was under my couch, unwrapped on the floor, I 97 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: would eat that no matter how long it had been there. 98 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: I would maybe rinse it off, or I would melt 99 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: it down or in reform it or do something deconstructed. 100 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: That's why I would do that. Um, you know, they 101 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: released a box a selection of caramels called stuff you 102 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: Should Eat a little Bit Sweet stuyah, and it says 103 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: specifically on their website that that's in honor of us. 104 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: Thank you, listen jen Um. Okay, So I feel like 105 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: we've gone in depth on what we do with the 106 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: five second rule. The question still remains, Chuck, is it? 107 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Is it viable? Is that a real thing? Like if 108 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 1: you if you are an adherent to the five second 109 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: rule and you're like, I'm a very clean person. I 110 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: only eat stuff that's been on the floor for five 111 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: seconds or less. Are you full of it? Well, you're 112 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: sort of full of it. You're totally full of it. 113 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: There's a high school student UH in two thousand three, 114 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: Jillian Clark and UM. She was doing her internship at 115 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: the UH fighting L I and I of the University 116 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: of Illinois, and she said, you know what, we should 117 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: do a little study because it's the old wives tale 118 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: about the five second rule. And she coded, um, these 119 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: tiles with E. Coli, which is really gross, and drop 120 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: cookies and gummy bears and things onto the surface for 121 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: certain amounts of time and then studied what kind of 122 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: bacteria picked up And of course no matter how long 123 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: have they been down there, bacteria did jump onto the 124 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: food within five seconds. What is important to point out, though, 125 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: is the long you left it there, the more it 126 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: picked up. So the five seconds are under is important. 127 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: Like it's usually not five seconds for me. If I 128 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: drop a piece of food, I've got it back within 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: my hand in like two seconds. I've seen it. You're 130 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: like a like a ninja. And it matters because the 131 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: longest they are, the more bacteria it's gonna pick up. Right, Yeah, yeah, um. 132 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: So Jillian Clark just did this very initial preliminary investigation, 133 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: but she was a pioneer and received the two thousand 134 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: four Ignoble Prize for Public Health for her efforts. Yeah. Um, 135 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: and so she kind of she established this trail. She 136 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: blazed the trail. Uh. And then about four years later, 137 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: some closing university researchers really kind of dug in to 138 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: figure out what was going on with this five second 139 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: rule and built on Clark's work. Tigers. Yeah, I mean, 140 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: we gotta say it. I don't feel like we do. Okay, 141 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: screw you, tigers. Um, all right, so what did they 142 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: found out? They found out, Well, if you thought that 143 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the same thing, right, if you thought the E. Coli 144 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: bacteria and the tiles was gross, and where you're going. 145 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: These guys created a broth of salmonella. They call it 146 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: salmonella soup, which is so nasty. Yeah, and they they 147 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: applied it to three different types of material, because I mean, 148 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: like sure, maybe five seconds you're gonna get some bacteria 149 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: on it. But what if what doesn't it depend on 150 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: the kind of food. Doesn't it depend on the kind 151 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: of surface that comes in contact with So these investigators 152 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: their pros they were at Clemson. Um, they applied to 153 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: salmonella soup to tile, would surface and carpet, right, and 154 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: then they started dropping bread and bologny on it. Good choice, 155 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: why not? Um? And they they found what Clark found 156 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: that in less than five seconds, no matter how short 157 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: at the time, but there was a bacterial transfer, Yeah, 158 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: between a hundred and fifty and eight thousand bacteria if 159 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: under five seconds, and consider this with salmonella, you only 160 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: need ten individual bacterium too for what's called an infectious dose. Okay, 161 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: so that is five seconds or under. If he left 162 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: it down there for a minute, it was going to 163 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: be ten times that. And um, there are ten strains 164 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: of salmonella not I mean, besides just the bacteria, it's 165 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on down there on 166 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: your floor, most notably poop on your shoes. Yeah, that's 167 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: another thing too, everywhere. But you should you should take 168 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: your shoes off. My wife is of Japanese ancestry, and 169 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I definitely picked up from hers, like you take your 170 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: shoes off when you come in the house, so you 171 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: just walk around without shoes on all the all the time, 172 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: or slippers or something. Yeah, because like, especially if you're 173 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: germ conscious, man, if you go into a public bathroom 174 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: and you walk out of there, you're the bottom of 175 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: your shoes are just like a nightmare. You don't want 176 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: to track that all over your house because you may 177 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: find a cookie on your couch that you want to eat. 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: You have to plan for the future basically, and that 179 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: starts with taking your shoes off in your house. For 180 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: some reason, I don't think the Japanese culture is rooted 181 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: in the hopes that you'll find a cookie on your 182 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: floor and be able to eat it. No, maybe not, 183 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: but they are bigging into taking their shoes. My friend 184 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: Jason and in Tokyo that he is married to a 185 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: woman in Keiko and years ago when we're living in Athens, 186 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: they started that tradition of removing your shoes and he 187 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: was like, hey, you mind, I was like, of course, 188 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: not watch this. Well. Sometimes they will even provide like 189 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: slippers and stuff for guests, like if you're in a 190 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Japanese home, so you're still wearing shoes in there, But 191 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: I guess you point have never left your house, so 192 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: that's the deal. Yes, and I don't like wild environment, 193 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: you're all good. Yeah, And I won't wear my slippers 194 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: in the bathroom either. I gotta tell you, I just 195 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: got some new slippers. What go barefoot in there? The 196 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: socks or whatever? Yeah, okay, but like I don't want 197 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: to burn the socks cut my feet. I bought some 198 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: new slippers. Dude. I'm not usually wanted to plug things 199 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: on the air, But if you're a grown man and 200 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: you want some the best slippers you've ever had, and 201 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: you don't mind throwing down little cash us men slippers, 202 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: my friend, what do you think I wear that we were? Yes, 203 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're the same ones. They are like 204 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: little loafer sort of swede. Mine don't have a back. 205 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: They just have this soul have a back, and they 206 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: have like the hard bottom, so you can go out 207 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: and get in the mail or if you're me, go 208 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: to the grocery store. Man, it's so comfortable and all 209 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: the what is it upper or whatever, it's not as sharp. 210 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: It's called sharper lining. Oh is it? Yeah? The sheep 211 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: shear that's what That's what some people call it. So cozy. Okay, 212 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: so slippers. I need to start plugging these things and 213 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: giving them for free. I'm a sucker. Always buy them 214 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: and then plug them, right, but it's not a sucker. 215 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Chuck here above the boards. Okay, Um, So back to it. Oh. So, 216 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: the longer the stuff stayed in contact the more the 217 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: more it was, the more bacteria that came upon it. 218 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: But surprisingly what they found was that the transfer was 219 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: the least for carpet. The type of surface that came 220 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: in contact with made a difference. I thought it was 221 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: the most for carpet was the least. It was the 222 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: least transferred. But the stuff survived in the carpet longer, 223 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: so it all washed out. So it made some difference, 224 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: but not really. Whether it's wood, tyler carpet, when you 225 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: drop something on it, there's going to be a a 226 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: lot of bacteria transfer. But this stuff survives on these services. Carpet, 227 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: you're kind of like, okay, yeah, there's a lot to it. 228 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: There's pile and you know, there's some sort of Berber 229 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: factor and all that. Um, you can't forget the Berber factory, right. 230 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: Uh So, of course, Carpet, that's not much of a 231 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: surprise that there's a lot of bacteria in there. But 232 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: would or tile Not only do they find that, like 233 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: the stuff can survive for a while, it survives for 234 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: up to a month. A month after they put this 235 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: stuff on there, a month later there was still living 236 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: bacteria enough for an infectious dose on all three surfaces. 237 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: A dude, that's okay, I'm becoming more of a drama fobe. 238 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: And yeah, we're all turning into David Putty right now. 239 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, remember he and Peggy who called Elaine Suze Susie. 240 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: They both turned out to be germaphobes. They had like 241 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: a little bacteria. Yeah, remember Cramer made a radish rose 242 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: in his shower. He had a garbage disposal in his 243 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: shower so he could remember bathe at the same time. 244 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: It was that episode. Um, so I know earlier you mentioned, Um, 245 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: it's just kind of off handedly said, you know, if 246 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: it's something dry like a cookie, or that actually makes 247 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: a difference. You found out that moisture can be the 248 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: key to more bacteria transfer. Um, So a dry cookie 249 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: versus a piece of like wet bologna or salami or 250 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: moist bolognay I said, moist bologny, Um, we'll have more bacteria. 251 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: And that's why they say when you go to the 252 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: restroom and you wash your hands, the drying is just 253 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: as important, if not more important than the watching. Yeah, 254 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: they found that, um, this transfer bacteria seems to be 255 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: facilitated by moisture. Right, so when you touch something with 256 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: your wet hands, you're gonna get a bunch of a 257 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: bunch of bacteria transferred onto your hands. If you wash 258 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: your hands and then use one of those hands free 259 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: paper towels spencers and dry your hands, you can touch 260 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: that a surface that you would have touched with your 261 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: wet hands, and you're gonna have far less bacteria transferred 262 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: to it. Yea, or nowadays the air dryers in the bathroom, 263 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: have have you noticed in the past few years or 264 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: just like for fifty years, it was the same air dryer. Oh, 265 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: now there's the accelerator. Now there's the accelerator and the 266 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: Dyson blade dryer. I like the accelerator because the Dison 267 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: blade do you have to stick your hands down in 268 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: there like that and it's almost like playing operation, Like 269 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: it's almost impossible not to touch the side, and then like, 270 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: what's what does anyone clean the bottom of those things? Like? 271 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. The accelerator, it's all just like 272 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: blowing your hands and you're you're done, and it's you 273 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: cannot touch things more. It's true. I like the accelerator 274 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: because the the way it makes your skin ripple, like 275 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: the g forces is pretty amazing. Like we were in 276 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: the indoor skydiving thing. Oh yeah, exactly. And let's talk 277 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: about hands real quick, chuck. So there's a study that 278 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: came out of the University of Colorado at Boulder and 279 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: UM they found some really surprising things using this technique 280 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: called metagenomics where they take a swab of like a 281 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: sample off of your hands and then rather than doing culture, 282 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: they do basically a DNA profile for everything found in 283 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: that swab. What they find, well, they did fifty one participants. 284 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: They found different bacteria species across the fifty one participants UM, 285 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: and what what I found was particularly interesting. They found 286 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: that um only five percent of these species were found 287 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: in all fifty one participants. No, five period, not even percent. 288 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, five period. So out of all these species 289 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: only when we're sharing. So that means we there's just 290 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: way more out there than we thought, I guess. Huh ye, 291 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: And it's just luck of the drawers to what leaps 292 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: to your hands, I guess so. And not only your hands, 293 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: but specific hands too. They found that the right and 294 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: left palms of a single person shared only seventeen percent 295 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: of the bacterial species, So that means there's different species 296 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: on different hands of the same person. That's weird. And 297 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: then women tend to have a higher diversity of bacteria 298 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: on their hands than men. Not necessarily more uh bacteria total, 299 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: but more diversity among species. Interesting. So depending on which 300 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: hand you shake, you're going to be getting a different 301 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: type of bacteria from someone. Yeah. And if somebody like 302 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: shakes your hand is like, oh, it's just water, I 303 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: washed my hand, punch them in the head because you're 304 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: that's bacterial transfer. Jerk dry your hands. Yeah, and uh, 305 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: and since you mentioned women. Um, I think the study 306 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: by the girl in two thousand three found that women 307 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: are more likely to eat something off the floor than men, 308 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: which surprised me. What surprised me is where the person 309 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: who wrote this article got that. I couldn't find it. 310 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: Anyone didn't either. I saw that women were more familiar 311 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: with the concept of the five second rule, but that 312 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: not that they used it more. Yeah, you know what, 313 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call that a dubious statement, then dubious indeed. Uh, okay, 314 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: so you've eaten something off the floor? Are we get 315 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: on hands? Yeah? Thanks for that, okay. I like in 316 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: the article they pointed out that out of the fifty 317 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: one participants, there were a hundred and two hands. Yeah, 318 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: it's just like, all right, so good. You didn't have 319 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: any amputees in the study, right. What was funny is 320 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: I was I didn't think it added up, and then 321 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: I realized that's why I stopped for a second a 322 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: minute ago. Um, all right, so you've picked up a 323 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: cookie off of the floor, it's dry, it's been down 324 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: there for three seconds, and you think, you know what, 325 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll the dice and eat it because my 326 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: stomach acids and the acids, and my saliva is going 327 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: to kill all this stuff factor fiction. That is fiction. 328 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: That is very much fiction. So says uh. The germ 329 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: guru of the University of Arizona, go, what are they? Wildcats? 330 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: Sun devils? Who's the Arizona State? That's Arizona State. Arizona's wildcats, 331 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: cats go wildcats. Charles Gerba, his name almost looks like germ, 332 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: yeah close or gerb closer than Clark. Like he's the 333 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: adult version of the Gerber baby. So he says that 334 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: uh virus is actually uh survived the low pH In fact, 335 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: a lot of them like it, and that pretty much 336 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: any bacteria that you can infect your intestine with is 337 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: going to stay alive long enough to get to your intestine, right, 338 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: it's going to survive that that acidity in your stomach. Yeah. Look, look, 339 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: look for a podcast on digestion. That was a good one. Man, 340 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: That was great if you want to learn how that works. Um, 341 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: And it does make a difference on where it's landed. 342 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: Like you said, Um, some floors are more dangerous than others. 343 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: In bathrooms are the worst place on earth. Yeah, And kitchens, 344 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: actually kitchens are the worst. There's supposedly dirtier than bathrooms. 345 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: It depends on the bathroom. But yeah, Gerba points out 346 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: that of all the shoes that he's ever analyzed, and 347 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: this guy like runs around on Good Morning America in 348 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: the Today Show and like analyze this stuff and just 349 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: freaks people out. It's like kind of his um, his trade. Yeah, 350 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: he said that the fecal matter appears on about of 351 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: the shoes he's ever analyzed. Of course it does. Yeah, 352 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: like I said, there's poop everywhere, poop everywhere, especially in 353 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: my house. So uh yeah, you'd think of public restrooms 354 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: pretty bad, and it is, but it depends on what 355 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: part of the public restroom you're talking about, and sometimes 356 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: compared to other places that it doesn't hold a candle. 357 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: There's some surprising germ statistics that were about to unleash 358 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: on you. Let's start with uh, let's just jump all over. 359 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: Then I got the kitchen floor. UM, the area on 360 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: the kitchen floor just in front of your sink. We're 361 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna be doing your dishes and dropping food and poop. 362 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: UM has more bacteria than your trash can square inch 363 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to four eleven, So double um and your 364 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: kitchen sponge I know everyone knows that that's a really 365 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: filthy thing to have. You remember that one necessary but filthy. 366 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: Remember the I think the Clorox wipes or lights Al 367 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: wipes commerce Still where the lady was using a sponge 368 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: or like, if you're using a sponge, you might as 369 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: well be doing this, and she was just rubbing like 370 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: a raw chicken breast on her counter like it was 371 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: a sponge. That's basically true, though. It's like you you 372 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: should be really careful with your sponge, what you clean 373 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: with it, what you don't clean with it, um, the 374 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: letting it dry out, changing it like regularly. Like if 375 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: you've got a two month old kitchen sponge and you're 376 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: using that to wipe your counter, you were spreading bacteria 377 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: all over the place. You don't love your family, so 378 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: you can use it at first, is what I do. 379 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: Because I'm a clean guy. My wife is not. I 380 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: will clean up after her with a sponge and then 381 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: I'll go back with my organic spray and then do 382 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: the paper towel wipe after that. That's the final step 383 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: in the process. As always, the dry paper towel with 384 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: my seventh seven stuff is what I used. And then 385 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of lighter fluid sterilized the counter. All right, 386 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: So your kitchen floor is is dirtier than your trash can. 387 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: Your sponge holds sixty times more bacteria than your pet 388 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: food bowl, even though pet food bowls are pretty gross too, 389 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: supposedly because you don't clean them out as much. Sure, 390 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: and all of this is germier than a toilet seat. Yeah. 391 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: You always hear that the old toilet seat. Yeah, And 392 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I think the reason why the toilet seat is surprisingly 393 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: cleaner in comparison, or surprisingly germ free compared to other 394 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: things like your kitchen sink and all that is because 395 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: people clean the toilet seat more frequently because they think 396 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: of it as a dirty place. And this is kind 397 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: of borne out in another study that Gerba carried out 398 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: on behalf of the Chlorox Corporation, who make lights all wipes, UM, 399 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: and he found that one of the dirtiest places in 400 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: the universe is a person's desk. And he found that, um, apparently, 401 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: the average desk has a hundred times more bacteria than 402 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: a kitchen table and four hundred times more bacteria than 403 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: the average toilet. And one of the reasons is because 404 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: people don't ever wipe this down. So he did the 405 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: study where he divided workers into two groups. One group 406 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: used these sanitizing wipes once or twice a day, and 407 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: then the other group didn't, and after two days there 408 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: was a ninety nine point nine percent reduction in bacteria 409 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: on the desk of the people who are using the wipe. 410 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: So wiping down your telephone, hands at your dead mouse 411 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: is a big one. Your mouse, you'll let your a 412 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: keyboard apparently where you typically rest your hand on your 413 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: desk minds on my mouse, um has about ten million 414 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: bacteria on average. UM. But he also found that over 415 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: the course of a day, if you don't wipe your 416 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: stuff down, you actually increase your bacteria from nineteen to 417 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: thirty one on telephone, mouse, keyboard, desktop surfaces. Throughout a day, 418 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: it increases that much more. Man, I haven't cleaned my 419 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: desk in so long. It's been a while for me too. 420 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't use the phone though I don't either. Yeah, 421 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: no one calls us. I don't even know my number 422 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: to give out, and and anytimes if somebody asked for 423 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm like just email. Yeah, that's what I do. Um. 424 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: Molly At, the former co host of Stuff Mom, never 425 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: told you back in the day she wrote about cubicle 426 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: death and specifically germs in the workplace, like we were 427 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: just talking about and um, she points out that and 428 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: if you're a restaurant and you have more than seven 429 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: hundred bacteria per square inch, you're going to be considered unsanitary. 430 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: But you will come into contact with ten million bacteria 431 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: day in your office. And statistics like people eat at 432 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: their desk and don't clean. I eat at my desk occasionally. 433 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't clean of people, uh only occasionally will wipe 434 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: down their work area. And um, your desktop itself, not 435 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: the computer desktop, but your desk. It's a hundred times 436 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: Germany or than a kitchen table and four hunh again, 437 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: four hundred times Germany or than a toilet seat. And 438 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: presentee is um, which is a big problem. Uh se 439 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: shent of workers, I'm sorry. One third of workers that's 440 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: not it's close reported to the National Foundation for Infectious 441 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: Diseases that they felt like they were obligated to go 442 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: to work even when they were sick. Yeah, that's it's 443 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: a problem. It's not okay. And I know around here, 444 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: especially Tracy are from she takes it pretty serious. She's 445 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: like she gets piste off. When people are in here sick, 446 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: she'll yell yeah, she'll say, if you're sick, please stay home. Um, 447 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: because the office is dirty, your bathrooms dirty, your kitchens dirty. 448 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: That cutting board that you're cutting your vegetables on filthy. Yeah, 449 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: it's all dirty, it's all gross. Well, I can't remember. 450 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: I was trying to think of what episode biofilm came up. 451 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: You were telling everybody about biofilm. Oh yeah, what was that. 452 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: I can't for the life of me remember. But um, 453 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: that's how bacteria survive. That's how they can survive on 454 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: stainless steel, That's how they can survive on wood, on tile, 455 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: on non poor service is on synthetic surfaces that are 456 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: designed to keep bacteria from thriving. These things can survive 457 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: because they live in biofilm. Yeah, it's this protective um 458 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: film on any surface. And if a surface has grooves 459 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: or things like that that where a biofilm can hide, 460 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot more bacteria. And cutting 461 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: board apparently is one of those great examples, especially a 462 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: wood cutting board, I think, yeah, which I prefer me too. 463 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: Got a clean and well though, Yeah, because I'd rather 464 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: have some bacteria in my food than like shards of plastic. 465 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's a good point. Um, So before 466 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: you freak out and jump in a pool of pure 467 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: l most of these germs are benign. Like we've quoted 468 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: all these tens of thousands and millions of germs and things, 469 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: most of urbanign, and your body's going to take care 470 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: of most of it too. But it only takes like 471 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, when you find yourself retching over the toilet 472 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: with a stomach virus, it might have just been one 473 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: little bacteria that got through, and all it takes is 474 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: ten for salmon alody gets you in a hundred for E. Coli, 475 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: ten ten little guys the bottom of a woman's purse randomly. 476 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Uh Gerba again just ran up to some people and 477 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: he's like, let me test your purse. And he found 478 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: um from the hundreds to six point seven million on 479 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: the bottom of one woman's purse. And he didn't say 480 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: that that also had like pieces of pot pie, and like, 481 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: there are probably reasons, but I think that was that one. 482 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: That's a good thing to go out and took you 483 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: to goodbye, reassuring everybody that as long as your immune 484 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: system is in order, you're probably Okay, as far as 485 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: these bacteria go. Don't keep your toothbrush in your bathroom, 486 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: so says our friends care rn. UM. Let's see before 487 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: we say anything like listener mail or go find this article. 488 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: I want to do a quick shout out. Okay, do it. 489 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Archiva team Chuck recently hit a very significant milestone. One 490 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: point five million dollars in loans. Wow. That's enormous. Not 491 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: say it? Oh? Yeah. Kiva the Kiva dot organism micro 492 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: lending site where you can make loans and little twenty 493 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: five dollar increments to people in the developing world to 494 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: use for entrepreneurship, to um have their taxi license, to 495 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: buy oxen, to retail clothes, what have you, UM farming whatever, 496 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: and um Archiva team has doled out one point five 497 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: million in these twenty five dollar loans. That's just such 498 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: an amazing accomplishment. Yeah. When we started this, we had 499 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: no idea that it was gonna have legs like this. Yeah, 500 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: and I mean we're gonna keep it going perpect to it, 501 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: so we are. One of the reasons I wanted to 502 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: shout out is because we are resetting our goals. We're 503 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: setting our goal to two million dollars by the summer 504 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: solstice June one. It's an international date, right, um and Glenn, 505 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: the team leader at Kiva, came up with this, and 506 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a sound idea. Yeah, thank you to 507 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Glenn and Sonia as always. So we're going to UH 508 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: two million by June twenty one. And if you want 509 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: to join us in this, we are not the least 510 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: bit exclusive. We're a very inclusive and welcoming group of people. 511 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: You can go to UM www dot Kiva, k I 512 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: v a dot org, slash Team Slash Stuff you should Know, okay, 513 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: and if you want to know anything more about the 514 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: five second rule, type five second rule in the search 515 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: bar house to folks dot com, I said search bar. 516 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: So it's time for listener mail. It is Josh. This 517 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: is We are just a few days away from our 518 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: TV show premiere. That when we would be remiss. 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I hope you 543 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: stuck around for this listenermail because it's pretty good. This 544 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: is from Ben. Uh guys, my name has been. I'm 545 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: a thirty year old husband and father. Never consider myself 546 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: a very smart man. I did mediocre in high school. Uh, 547 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: not because of lack of trying, but because being viewed 548 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: as a lazy student, and I was just socially awkward. 549 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: To be honest, my wife has talked me into catching 550 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: up with your podcast, and since then I've gotten a 551 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: smartphone and done so. And all I can say is 552 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: thank you guys from the bottom of my heart. Um, 553 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: it just helped me become a better husband and father. 554 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: Let me explain. After high school, I became a father 555 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: to a beautiful boy with an ex girlfriend who was 556 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: not the best person. Due to some heart complications, my 557 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: son Logan passed away four days after his first birthday. 558 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: This resulted in me not following through with college, shutting 559 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: down emotionally, basically becoming angry at the world and God 560 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: for my son's passing. To put it bluntly, I became 561 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: someone who I said I never would become. It was 562 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: full of hate. The years that followed in my life 563 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: was just gray as I went through the motions of life. 564 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Things turned around when I met my wife Jordan, got 565 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: married and had our son, Raydon. And yes I didn't 566 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: name him Radin after Mortal Kombat, and then I was 567 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: turned on your podcast after listening to over two hundred 568 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: of them, you two have opened a hard spot in 569 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: my heart. After listening to you guys and hearing how 570 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: good natured you are, I myself have been trying to 571 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: give everything in life a fair chance and have become 572 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: more of a good Harvard person who no longer battles 573 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: something bad within myself. I know right, I'm happier in 574 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: life than ever before, and I have my wife and 575 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: son and now Chuck and Josh to thank for helping. 576 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to further my education. I can't stop reading 577 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: and learning, and I save your show so when my 578 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: one year old son is old enough, he can experience 579 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: something that changes daddy's life for the better, just like 580 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: he and his mommy did. So. I can't thank you 581 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: guys enough for all I've done without even knowing it. 582 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes all it takes is good hearts and a good 583 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: podcast to make even a small difference. If you guys 584 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: are Evan Ohio, I would like to play about the 585 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: drink that is from Ben children May and Ben thank 586 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: you for that. We're not even trying. I dude, I 587 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: read this stuff and I'm just like, are you kidding me? 588 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool? Like what are you supposed to say 589 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: to that? Thank you? So thanks ben Um. If you 590 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: want to get in touch with chucking me about five 591 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: second rule, how about this. We want to know the 592 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: nastiest thing you've ever eaten, whether it was something that 593 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: was prepared, something that touched the ground, tell us, tell 594 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: us your nasty eating story. Yeah, and if you're one 595 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: of those kids. I had friends in elementary school that 596 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: would have like gross eating contests, that would like throw 597 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: mashed potatoes on the floor and then eat them. I 598 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: explored that once. I was like, you know what, maybe 599 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: maybe I am that kid. Let's let's find out. And 600 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: I ate a sticker that was on the ground was 601 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: some hair attached to it, and I was like, no, 602 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: I need to keep seeking my persona because that not me. Yeah. Wow, yeah, 603 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: well we want to know about them, right, Yeah. I 604 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: can't believe you held out I mean that long that story. 605 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: Tweet to us at s Y s K podcast, join 606 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: us on Facebook dot com, slash stuff you should Know, 607 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: and as always, you can send us an email for 608 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: more on this and thousands of other topics. Does it, 609 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: how stuff works, dot com