Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I'm Mike Spofford alongside West Hodkowitz, coming to you here
Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field and West. We don't
Speaker 1: like to jump ahead too much when we talk about
Speaker 1: the NFL, but I think an interesting thing statistically in
Speaker 1: NFL history, certainly in recent years, is the playoff field
Speaker 1: and how on average, I believe it's over the last
Speaker 1: decade or so, five teams of the twelve in the
Speaker 1: playoffs do not get back to the playoffs the following year.
Speaker 1: So if you look strictly at the NFC, that means
Speaker 1: two to three teams from last year's playoff field supposedly
Speaker 1: will not be back now. Green Bay, Minnesota, Seattle, Arizona, Carolina,
Speaker 1: and Washington where the six NFC teams last year. So,
Speaker 1: just for grins and giggles, who do you think are
Speaker 1: the most vulnerable teams in the NFC to perhaps not
Speaker 1: repeat their playoff appearance. Yeah, it's it's a grins and
Speaker 1: giggles time of the season right now for us as
Speaker 1: we get ready for the regular season. These are the
Speaker 1: things that everybody always likes to talk about. I'm sure,
Speaker 1: it's somewhat a cop out, but I think it probably
Speaker 1: starts with Washington just because they kind of were the
Speaker 1: Cinderella at the ball last year things fell their way
Speaker 1: in the division. I think a lot of people are
Speaker 1: expecting the Cowboys to make a run, not only you know,
Speaker 1: at the NFC title, you know, the NFC tub, but
Speaker 1: actually get to the super Bowl with the wow things
Speaker 1: had ended the year before and Tony Romo and what
Speaker 1: they had built up. Romo goes down in Washington, a
Speaker 1: team that was in a lot of turmoil going into
Speaker 1: last season is the one that ended up stepping up.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a at it to to what
Speaker 1: they were able to accomplish and how they were about
Speaker 1: to be able to go about their season and underneath
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. But at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: think that also leaves in probably the most vulnerable right
Speaker 1: now because there were a lot of things that had
Speaker 1: to slant in their direction to to get there in
Speaker 1: the first place. Yeah, that NFC East, i think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say, is maybe the most wide open of
Speaker 1: the divisions in the NFC. And Dallas you mentioned they
Speaker 1: were in the playoffs in the number three seed actually,
Speaker 1: and then they did not get back, mostly due to
Speaker 1: that injury to Tony Romo. The Detroit Lions, another team
Speaker 1: from teen that was in the playoffs, did not get back.
Speaker 1: In the question I have, I think and I agree
Speaker 1: with you about Washington and and the NFC East, but
Speaker 1: does Carolina end up suffering that Super Bowl hangover there?
Speaker 1: Sort of? I don't have the statistics in front of me,
Speaker 1: but they're sort of that trend of the team that
Speaker 1: loses in the Super Bowl. There are several years over
Speaker 1: the last decade or so that the team that loses
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl does not get back to the
Speaker 1: playoffs the next year, sort of this hangover type of thing.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that might happen to the Panthers.
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I think the way that division
Speaker 1: is structured, unless we see some some really quick rebuilding
Speaker 1: in the NFC South, that they still are the favorite
Speaker 1: by leaps and bounds at this time. And it's also
Speaker 1: an interesting aspect when you look at everything that they
Speaker 1: had lost last year. They're the injuries that they had
Speaker 1: at receiver. Um, you know Thomas Davis playing with basically
Speaker 1: a broken forearm and in the Super Bowl, uh, and
Speaker 1: and they still made it as far as they did.
Speaker 1: And I think with Cam Newton and what he brings
Speaker 1: the table, uh, you're talking about, uh, generational quarterbacks. So
Speaker 1: I guess for me the division I'm probably more concentrated
Speaker 1: on right now is out West because last year, when
Speaker 1: we did our preseason predictions, um I picked the Rams
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, and I felt pretty good about
Speaker 1: that pick. I thought the defense, even if they didn't
Speaker 1: have all the offensive pieces to get there, the defense
Speaker 1: was going to carry them this season. And now with
Speaker 1: Todd Griley on offense and what they still have defensively
Speaker 1: and in that those trenches, I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a really fun race to track. When you have Seattle,
Speaker 1: then obviously Arizona having the success that they've had recently,
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a fun one to be
Speaker 1: a part of it. I still am looking for Los
Speaker 1: Angeles to make that jump, depending on how case Keenum
Speaker 1: and were, depending on how they handle that with Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: how that all shakes out. But getting back to the
Speaker 1: original question as it relates to Carolina, I think there
Speaker 1: is something to be said for that as far as
Speaker 1: having that let down, But someone else is gonna have
Speaker 1: to come up and challenge him in that division if
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Yeah, I think the biggest thing
Speaker 1: that Carolina will have to overcome is the departure of
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, the star cornerback. He was a big part
Speaker 1: of that defense. But you mentioned offensively, the receiving corps
Speaker 1: should be much improved for Cam Newton, and cam Newton
Speaker 1: won an NFL m v P with a receiving corps
Speaker 1: that nobody was talking about, so, uh, there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot to be said there. And Josh Norman going to
Speaker 1: Washington and providing potentially a big boost to Washington's bid
Speaker 1: to repeat as NFC East champs. Yeah, that's a huge
Speaker 1: signing for them in terms of you know, I watched
Speaker 1: them last year and no disrespect at all to Will
Speaker 1: Blackman and in the career that he's had for himself,
Speaker 1: but it just seemed like in that wild card game,
Speaker 1: the Packers were kind of able to exploit him a
Speaker 1: little bit. They got a little thin in that secondary.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons that the Green
Speaker 1: Bay was able to make that comeback. It is interesting, though,
Speaker 1: I've never you've been around this a lot longer than
Speaker 1: I have. I can't ever recall another situations like Norman's
Speaker 1: where the franchise tag was extended. It was sitting out
Speaker 1: there and then revoked and then he goes and signs
Speaker 1: with another team. I can't recall that ever happening that
Speaker 1: was recently. Yeah, that was that was a really strange situation.
Speaker 1: The way out, Yeah, it didn't seem like it would
Speaker 1: be anything acrimonious, and then suddenly it became this big
Speaker 1: contentious thing. And and less than twenty four hours later,
Speaker 1: Josh Norman had a new team. So um interesting to
Speaker 1: see how that plays out in the NFC. Well after
Speaker 1: the break, will focus a little bit more on the
Speaker 1: NFC North, in particular, looking ahead to back with more
Speaker 1: on Packers Unscripted. Right after this Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford alongside Wes Hodkowitz and West. Let's focus a
Speaker 1: little more specifically on the NFC North as we look
Speaker 1: at When I look at the Packers three opponents, I
Speaker 1: see three major changes that will have an impact on
Speaker 1: the NFC North race this season. You have Detroit no
Speaker 1: longer with Calvin Johnson. Megatron has retired, the Bears will
Speaker 1: no longer have Matt Forte a running back the Packers
Speaker 1: are used to seeing twice a year and has had
Speaker 1: plenty of productive games against Green Bay and then Minnesota
Speaker 1: opening a brand new stadium and as we know, the
Speaker 1: Packers opening that stadium as far as the first regular
Speaker 1: season game in Week two. So as far as those adjustments,
Speaker 1: those major changes amongst the Packers opponents, which one do
Speaker 1: you think will have the biggest impact on the division race?
Speaker 1: In Yeah, that's an excellent question. I would say it's
Speaker 1: gonna probably be Calvin Johnson just based on the terms
Speaker 1: of he was. He was a once in a generation player.
Speaker 1: He was the wide receiver of the two thousand eight
Speaker 1: to two thousand sixteen time frame. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: a legit threat anytime he stepped on the field. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it before, Joe Wit kind of quipping a
Speaker 1: little bit that he's no longer going to have as
Speaker 1: much gray hair as he used to have. But he
Speaker 1: was just there was no one really like him. And
Speaker 1: that's no disrespect to Matt Forte. Matt Fourte was is
Speaker 1: a terrific running back as well, but Calvin Johnson was
Speaker 1: the one percent he was the cream of the crop.
Speaker 1: In taking him out of that rivalry now, I'm just
Speaker 1: really interested to see what the Lions are able to
Speaker 1: come up with this here. It sounds like they're going
Speaker 1: to be moving to more of a no huddle type
Speaker 1: scheme again, but without him on the field, he was
Speaker 1: he was the difference maker. Yeah, I think this is
Speaker 1: a huge challenge for matt Stafford, the veteran quarterback. Now
Speaker 1: for the Lions to not have Calvin Johnson really for
Speaker 1: the first time in his career there with Detroit and yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to change some things as far as their
Speaker 1: offensive scheme and whatnot, But taking away a weapon like that.
Speaker 1: If you think back to the early days of Brett
Speaker 1: Farve in his career when he lost Sterling Sharp, Farve
Speaker 1: actually in a lot of ways became a better quarterback
Speaker 1: because he wasn't so focused on that one guy. But
Speaker 1: that was also very early in forest development as well.
Speaker 1: Taking away Calvin Johnson at this stage of Matthew Stafford's career,
Speaker 1: I'll be really curious to see just what happens to
Speaker 1: his play at quarterback and how he leads and conducts
Speaker 1: that offense going forward. Yeah, I mean just going through
Speaker 1: his stats just really quickly. I mean one reception over
Speaker 1: eleven thousand yards. I mean, my goodness, being able to
Speaker 1: do that, and what nine NFL seasons, what the averages,
Speaker 1: the production you have to have, and he played through
Speaker 1: a lot, as we saw. So now at the same time,
Speaker 1: to your point, now we've seen the history will show
Speaker 1: that the Lions can be resurgent, they can come back
Speaker 1: and compete for a division title. I think everybody's expecting
Speaker 1: Minnesota to be the one that that is probably the
Speaker 1: biggest threat right now to Green Bay. So them actually
Speaker 1: starting that first game at US Bank Stadium, Uh, that
Speaker 1: is also going to be an interesting kind of new
Speaker 1: curveball to this. Packers are used to playing in domes
Speaker 1: in in Minnesota. They did that for number of years
Speaker 1: in the Metrodome. But this is going to be a
Speaker 1: new wrinkle to this this rivalry, and that is one
Speaker 1: thing when that day comes around in September, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be interested to see how that plays out as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're definitely looking forward to that trip and
Speaker 1: seeing just what that new stadium entails, what kind of
Speaker 1: atmosphere environment excuse me, there will be there. I I
Speaker 1: think the this new stadi him in Minnesota will will
Speaker 1: really be interesting the first year because the Vikings had
Speaker 1: and I know it's not that they made the playoffs
Speaker 1: every year or anything, but the Vikings had a really
Speaker 1: significant home field advantage with that Metrodome and with that
Speaker 1: noise and teams that came in there, and particularly teams
Speaker 1: unlike say the Packers and Bears, who were there every year,
Speaker 1: but teams that came in there, you know, not every year,
Speaker 1: not all the time. It was a really tough thing
Speaker 1: to get used to and to play well. And I'm
Speaker 1: really curious to see if the new U. S. Bank Stadium,
Speaker 1: you know, has that same sort of annoying, frustrating environment
Speaker 1: for opponents that the Metrodome did. Yeah, and before you know,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks ended up having their whole situation with Century
Speaker 1: Link Field, and in the everyone talks about how loud
Speaker 1: it isn't there. I mean, the Metrodome was really the
Speaker 1: beginning of all that. It was the horn and the crowd.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well though they'll still have that, it's gonna pass.
Speaker 1: They're still they're not getting rid of the horn. I
Speaker 1: just remember my first time in two thousand twelve going there,
Speaker 1: and and being told, okay, we're out there too. Where
Speaker 1: there is the press box, wasn't you know window paned
Speaker 1: off from everybody you're in the crowd as well. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were right in the middle of it, and I
Speaker 1: had I had my headphones on the entire time trying
Speaker 1: to drown out the sound because I mean, it was
Speaker 1: hard to concentrate for me just trying to write a
Speaker 1: story on deadline, let alone winning a professional football game.
Speaker 1: So it is, and we've seen there's so many renderings
Speaker 1: of it. I haven't gotten to read a whole lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff on and it's been really popular the
Speaker 1: stories that have been done on on what the stadium
Speaker 1: is going to be like. But it will be interesting,
Speaker 1: especially the last two years after being at in at
Speaker 1: the Gopher Stadium to where they were outside and you know,
Speaker 1: playing it's kind of kind of a smaller, a little
Speaker 1: more intimate type setting, you might say. I thought, I
Speaker 1: thought that was interesting how that played out. And and
Speaker 1: Minnesota certainly ended up playing that super cold playoff game
Speaker 1: against against Seattle after all those years of their home
Speaker 1: playoff games being in the Tredome. That was a nice
Speaker 1: change of pace, I guess you might say for the NFC. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: the Packers to getting back to the Bears now, They're
Speaker 1: gonna have a change of pace with Jeremy Lankford now
Speaker 1: instead of Matt Forty. Matt Forty a dual threat guy.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, I don't have the exact stats up
Speaker 1: in front of me, but I found a lot of
Speaker 1: ways to to hurt Don Caper's defense over the years.
Speaker 1: So I'll be interesting to see what Langford can do now,
Speaker 1: and and Kevin White and him getting added the equation
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, the Bears relying on some changes amongst
Speaker 1: their offensive weapons. So we'll be back to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit more about the Packers schedule after the break
Speaker 1: back with more on Packers Unscripted. Right after this Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford alongside West, hod Kowitz
Speaker 1: and West. We touched on that Week two game in
Speaker 1: Minnesota opening up US Bank Stage for the regular season.
Speaker 1: That's a part of a tough double opening, you might say,
Speaker 1: with weeks one and two with the Packers going to
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and then going to Minnesota. A couple other tough
Speaker 1: stretches of the schedule, three consecutive road games, in November Tennessee, Washington,
Speaker 1: and Philadelphia, with the latter two against the two NFC
Speaker 1: East teams, both being in prime time on the road.
Speaker 1: And then you finished the season with three consecutive division games,
Speaker 1: playing all of your division opponents Chicago, Minnesota, and Detroit
Speaker 1: weeks fifteen through seventeen of the regular season. So I've
Speaker 1: been throwing a lot of questions at you today, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this one at you. Two of those
Speaker 1: three stretches Weeks one and two, the three road games
Speaker 1: in November, the three division games to finish up, Which
Speaker 1: do you believe is the most crucial part of the
Speaker 1: Packers schedule in you know what's funny, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with option D Okay, I'm not even gonna go with
Speaker 1: one that you just gave me. A um. As far
Speaker 1: as treacherous and difficult, I still maintain it. The November stretch,
Speaker 1: that's brutal, and Mike McCarthy has talked about it a
Speaker 1: lot in terms of this regular season schedule not having
Speaker 1: a lot of rhythm to it. But for me, I
Speaker 1: think the most crucial stretch for them is actually gonna
Speaker 1: be after the bye week, where you have three home
Speaker 1: games in the span of about eleven twelve days. Those
Speaker 1: are critical in terms of you need w's there and
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be a lot. I mean, the Giants
Speaker 1: with Ben McAdoo knows the Packers well, the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: fixing to be better this year, and the Bears is
Speaker 1: always a tough game, and what will be the color
Speaker 1: rush there's a game as well. That's the one I
Speaker 1: keep looking at because that's the only extended time that
Speaker 1: the Packers have at home. To your point, though, the
Speaker 1: first two openers, first time in ninety six years, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, two back to back road games. You're in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: which is gonna be hot. We've already talked about what
Speaker 1: Minnesota probably be like with them debuting. There's there's stadium
Speaker 1: in the regular season. But that November stretch, man, I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a difficult one with two primetime
Speaker 1: games and uh and against two pretty decent opponents as well. Else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you raise an interesting point about that October stretch at home,
Speaker 1: because if the Packers are going to find any sort
Speaker 1: of rhythm and get on any kind of a role
Speaker 1: in the regular scene, that's where you have to do it.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. And as we've talked about before, you
Speaker 1: can't have a better finish to a schedule than playing
Speaker 1: all three of your division opponents back to back to back,
Speaker 1: two of them on the road at Chicago and at
Speaker 1: Detroit in weeks fifteen and seventeen, and then that Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve Day game at lambeau Field against the Vikings in between.
Speaker 1: You know, we we've discussed it many times before. It's
Speaker 1: hard to see this division being decided by anybody before
Speaker 1: those final weeks of the regular season. Absolutely, and there
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a reprieve there because once
Speaker 1: you do get past the Eagles on November, that's where
Speaker 1: you do have back to back home games against the
Speaker 1: Texans and Seahawks, and then you get into this extended
Speaker 1: stretch of divisional games. Personally, that's the part of the
Speaker 1: schedule I really like. I think that it adds another
Speaker 1: nice little caveat to it because if you go back
Speaker 1: the last three or four years, that NFC championship, NFC
Speaker 1: North Championship has come down to that last game of
Speaker 1: the season, and the Packers have played every team in
Speaker 1: the division to decide that in those you know, consecutive years.
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be really exciting. You have
Speaker 1: some noon start times. If they happen to stay there, obviously,
Speaker 1: we'll see. But it is it's that's that's what the
Speaker 1: NFL is all about. That's what the regular season is
Speaker 1: all about. You gotta win your division to get in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and you have to win as many of
Speaker 1: those other games as possible to get a better seed.
Speaker 1: And at that point, once the they get to that
Speaker 1: Bears game on December eighteen, I think the Packers will
Speaker 1: have a good idea of where they're at now. It's
Speaker 1: just gonna be a matter if they can finish it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you you look at maybe a couple of spots
Speaker 1: that the schedule Tilton green Bay's favor You might say
Speaker 1: that those first two games in December, you have the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans coming in. That's a southern warm weather team
Speaker 1: coming up to Green Bay in early December, so it
Speaker 1: could be kind of cold in a tough environment. And
Speaker 1: then Seattle the following week obviously a big rivalry there
Speaker 1: and see out on one of the top teams in
Speaker 1: the NFC. But again Seattle, Seattle doesn't win the super
Speaker 1: cold playoff game in Minnesota, without the miss twenty seven
Speaker 1: yard field goal. That was not Seattle's best performance in
Speaker 1: those kinds of conditions. So you wonder if they're coming
Speaker 1: in and it's cold at Lambeau Field, how they'll respond
Speaker 1: in that environment. It is interesting. I remember originally when
Speaker 1: this happened, I was hoping there'll be a Jacksonville game
Speaker 1: in December. But now the way the schedule lines up,
Speaker 1: a lot of cold football games will be played between
Speaker 1: Green Bay Chicago. The Packers are gonna have to put
Speaker 1: their long sleeve sweaters on those for those games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds good. Well, a long time until then, but
Speaker 1: something to look forward to. So we got one more
Speaker 1: segment to go West back with more on Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Right after this Welcome Back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spafered,
Speaker 1: alongside Wes Hodkiwits and West have been throwing questions at
Speaker 1: you the entire show, so I'm gonna throw another one
Speaker 1: at you. At the at the time that we're taping
Speaker 1: this episode, there are two training camp practices left in
Speaker 1: the training camp for the Packers. So to this point,
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite moment in training camp? Oh? Wow,
Speaker 1: favorite moment during training camp this is unscripted, so you're
Speaker 1: just throwing all these curveballs at me. It's Tim Wakefield
Speaker 1: and I'm just swinging at all the knuckleballs here. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll go with the night practices. That was probably my
Speaker 1: favorite moment, the return of the night practices. And I
Speaker 1: understand a lot of players don't necessarily like them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said, he is, he does enjoy them, but
Speaker 1: there is just something special to me about it. Only
Speaker 1: happens so many times a year, and you know the
Speaker 1: two thousand, However many people show up for those those practices.
Speaker 1: It just I just always have really positive memories though,
Speaker 1: And it's just there's something just very tranquil about it.
Speaker 1: The weather is usually a little bit cooler at that
Speaker 1: time and night, the sun is going down, starts sunny
Speaker 1: ends you know at night. There's an atmosphere to those
Speaker 1: workouts that that you can't you can't have whether if
Speaker 1: it's a nine am or a noon or whatever. There's
Speaker 1: something about being in a nice summer evening in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and there's football going on for people to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and I mean there's some there was some fun
Speaker 1: moments too. You know when you go back to those
Speaker 1: those practices and the way that they played during this
Speaker 1: whole training camp. You know, Aaron Rodgers and when he
Speaker 1: was out there leading the offense. I mean, there there's
Speaker 1: a lot of memories that I think, um, that I
Speaker 1: think can be had out of that. I know you
Speaker 1: even mentioned it a little bit earlier too. I mean,
Speaker 1: some of these performances that we saw from these receivers
Speaker 1: and tight ends really really stood out. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: was what I was going to say, is my favorite moment.
Speaker 1: I believe it was actually the last of the night practices.
Speaker 1: It was the first practice that we saw Jared Cook,
Speaker 1: the new tight end free agent acquisition in the off season.
Speaker 1: He came off pup from the foot surgery in the
Speaker 1: off season, and he lit the place up. I mean,
Speaker 1: he and Aaron Rodgers looked like they had been a
Speaker 1: quarterback tight end combination for the last five or six years.
Speaker 1: And it was the first training camp practice for Cook.
Speaker 1: His real really his introduction to the Packers fans who
Speaker 1: came there to watch that night. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many touchdowns he had in the red zone work. It
Speaker 1: was a red zone and goal line kind of night,
Speaker 1: but uh, that's what the packers were working on. But boy,
Speaker 1: there had to have been at least four or five
Speaker 1: touchdowns just to him alone on all sorts of different plays.
Speaker 1: It was really an impressive and for me, a memorable
Speaker 1: practice in terms of a guy introducing himself to his
Speaker 1: new team and his new fan base. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was definitely a positive first impression that you want to
Speaker 1: set if you're cooked, because the two biggest question marks
Speaker 1: what were they when he came to Green Bay. One
Speaker 1: he didn't have a touchdown catch last year, and two
Speaker 1: people like questions about his hands on that particular night
Speaker 1: call everything that was thrown his direction and was a
Speaker 1: legitimate threat inside the red zone. It was really a
Speaker 1: precursor to, I think the excitement that everybody's feeling right now,
Speaker 1: but what he can do with his body type and
Speaker 1: athleticism in this offense. And we've got a little taste
Speaker 1: of it so far with Brett Hunley and Joe Callahan
Speaker 1: working with them, but now actually going into the regular
Speaker 1: season with Aaron Rodgers, it's a different ballgame, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And I'd be remissed as far as reviewing this training
Speaker 1: camp if I didn't say, on a personal note, how
Speaker 1: nice it was, how how special it was to be
Speaker 1: in Canton, Ohio from the gold jack at ceremony for
Speaker 1: the Brett Farves Hall of Fame induction, and that tremendous
Speaker 1: speech that's certainly a memory from the training camp I'll
Speaker 1: take with me. I'm not sure how long we'll remember
Speaker 1: the canceled Hall of Fame game, but you know, that's
Speaker 1: a story for another day, so we'll we'll call that
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Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time. H m hmm.