Speaker 1: What is up, ladies and gentlemen, Boys and girls, it's
Speaker 1: your boy Goblin. Come check me out on the Bootleg
Speaker 1: keV podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, Bootleg CAV Podcast Special guest Goblin is here.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, welcome, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming man. First of all, welcome to La.
Speaker 2: You're a new LA resident.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, very new.
Speaker 2: Worry friend, obviously you have, you've been in Illinois. What
Speaker 2: motivated you to finally kind of make the jump to
Speaker 2: the big times and come over here and pay all
Speaker 2: this tax money?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, Hey, I'm buckling up for my first
Speaker 1: my first little tax return out here, but not really turning.
Speaker 1: She don't get nothing bad, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But honestly, it was mainly two things. A. You know,
Speaker 1: the content. I already come out here, you know, I
Speaker 1: was traveling out here so much to hang out with
Speaker 1: my friends, do podcasts, you know, do that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: with the kind of stuff I do, you know, making
Speaker 1: weave videos, that kind of thing. It's like a no
Speaker 1: brainer to get out here because the Illinois weed market,
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you know a ton about it? Brutal?
Speaker 2: Is it brutal in terms of legalities or just so
Speaker 2: it's legal.
Speaker 1: But they have, at least in my opinion, one of
Speaker 1: the worst programs in the state. They they campaigned it
Speaker 1: on like all this social equity and like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna you know, give you know, low income and people
Speaker 1: who have been impacted by cannabis laws licenses the first
Speaker 1: opportunity to see yeah, yeah, the first chance. And when
Speaker 1: it ended up being was you know, the cost to
Speaker 1: apply alone was like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: even if you got denied so immediately.
Speaker 2: So you had to come up with two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty grand just to quarter past just to apply. And
Speaker 2: then if they say no, you're you're out of tude fifty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So immediately the ninety nine point nine percent of
Speaker 1: people that were supposed to benefit from it don't qualify, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're yeah yeah. And the point oh one percent that
Speaker 1: do qualify god investors for it, right you know. So
Speaker 1: the market out there is just a bunch of like
Speaker 1: the big companies that came out from the East Coast
Speaker 1: and you know, all the corporations and just put them
Speaker 1: on a shitty weed on the shelf. And then the.
Speaker 2: Taxes, the taxes are crazy. Yeah, I don't even like
Speaker 2: I guess being in LA I don't really go to dispensaries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's different.
Speaker 2: I guess some I kind of like, I get a
Speaker 2: bunch of free weed, which you do, and sure, so
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I don't know, Yeah, get out
Speaker 2: to the folks paying and listen, shout out to the dispensaries.
Speaker 2: I heard it as an extremely like the like to
Speaker 2: be in Cali and be on that side of the business.
Speaker 2: I heard it's very tough, tough because the black market
Speaker 2: is still where all the money is. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, a lot of these guys are doing both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as they Oh they're all back dooring, back dooring, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, it's funny because doing what
Speaker 1: I do and going to all these weed events and
Speaker 1: like networking and stuff, you shake hands with these people
Speaker 1: and you know you only know them prior to that
Speaker 1: from the dispensary shelf, and you think, like, oh, these
Speaker 1: guys are super legit. They're fucking serving packs right there
Speaker 1: to everybody. You know. It doesn't they're all doing it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't brands you can think of, shake a dude's hand,
Speaker 1: get them on Instagram. All of a sudden, you got a telegram,
Speaker 1: get whatever the fun you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the telegram shit is crazy.
Speaker 1: It's nuts, it's nuts. But yeah, so they don't have
Speaker 1: sessions and shit out there, Oh no, I mean they
Speaker 1: have like some kind of they're either super corporate or
Speaker 1: they're super low key.
Speaker 2: And they're super fucking super.
Speaker 1: Scuffed, you know, in the shittiest neighborhood parking like empty
Speaker 1: your car, take the cups out type shit. You know.
Speaker 1: So there's there's no real room for like the weed
Speaker 1: market to grow there just because the laws in the
Speaker 1: black market. They got some contenders. You know, there's brands
Speaker 1: like Copone's Garden putting out some fire out there, but
Speaker 1: that's like the only one that comes to mind.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting. So when you go to like because
Speaker 2: for people who don't know in La, there's i mean
Speaker 2: probably once a week you could find a dope weed
Speaker 2: of end to go to for sure, like twice a month.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and there's these giant sesshes.
Speaker 2: Where you know, they're I don't know how legal or
Speaker 2: illegal they are, but the cops don't give a fun
Speaker 2: because they're out there. So you'll walk through and buy packs,
Speaker 2: you could buy shit. The last time I went to
Speaker 2: a sesshon, I got fucking h This LSD spray.
Speaker 1: I've seen that.
Speaker 2: It almost comes like it looks like a little bottle
Speaker 2: of mace, almost like Banaka almost.
Speaker 1: When I went to the puff cod just recently launched
Speaker 1: a new uh like a new device or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I went to their event and there was some
Speaker 1: duw going around. I'm not going to name the guy,
Speaker 1: but there's some dude going around just offering people spray.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, you want a little little LSD spray.
Speaker 1: Where'd that shit even come from?
Speaker 2: I don't know, But it's not bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no it's not.
Speaker 2: It's light, it's super light.
Speaker 1: I haven't tried them, but you know, I haven't done
Speaker 1: an i AS in a couple of years. You know,
Speaker 1: I switched to the shrooms. Now if I was still
Speaker 1: into the asset, i'd be abusing that shit.
Speaker 2: Are you going to the isn't puff Coo Fest coming next?
Speaker 1: Tough Con?
Speaker 2: Puff Con? Isn't that coming? With like action bronze and.
Speaker 1: Yeah they got a bunch of people. Yeah, I'm probably going.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't like the kind of thing you
Speaker 1: should be at Yeah. I mean I haven't like booked
Speaker 1: a ticket yet, but I mean, puff Co they're the homies.
Speaker 1: You know, they always you know, hit me up there
Speaker 1: like you got a bunch of cool devices. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're dopey. They're dope all right.
Speaker 2: So for people who don't know I recently, it's funny
Speaker 2: because I had Yola on YEP and we had been
Speaker 2: following each other for a while, and I had one
Speaker 2: of my friends go on this podcast and I kind
Speaker 2: of like dived in and I'm like, I've been kind
Speaker 2: of oblivious to the weed YouTube space for a while.
Speaker 2: I recently got hiped to it in the last like
Speaker 2: four or five months, and I'm like, oh, there's like
Speaker 2: this whole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a whole little like It's kind of crazy
Speaker 3: because when I think of YouTube, like being on even
Speaker 3: like my side of like the creator space, like man,
Speaker 3: I get flat, we get yellow videos so fucking much,
Speaker 3: I would even think that there's like that.
Speaker 2: And and then I found out about you because I
Speaker 2: saw on Yola's page You've been on there three.
Speaker 1: Or four times I think five at this point, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: So I watched one of your interviews and I was
Speaker 2: like Oh, this kid's cool as fuck.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that for.
Speaker 2: People who don't know. You kind of came onto the
Speaker 2: scene playing video games while doing and reviewing drugs off
Speaker 2: camera pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my my initial way that I got
Speaker 1: a following, at least when I was long a lot younger.
Speaker 1: I was a degenerate, you know, I was. I was
Speaker 1: begin to getting a high on whatever the fuck I
Speaker 1: could afford for the day, you know. So I kind
Speaker 1: of came up just doing like mixing my my gaming
Speaker 1: stuff with my drug use stuff, and.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of what puts you on the map. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you growing up, like what was your childhood like?
Speaker 2: Like what was your house like?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean my I had a pretty good childhood.
Speaker 1: You know. My my parents divorced when I was super young,
Speaker 1: So it wasn't something that really bothered me because I
Speaker 1: just got used to it when I was like three, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, that's all you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like hell yeah, two Christmases, Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Mom's fighting dad who's buying the better gift?
Speaker 1: You know, I love that shit. So, you know, growing up,
Speaker 1: my childhood is pretty good. As I got a little older,
Speaker 1: got into like middle school, high school. It kind of
Speaker 1: just started like being a little delinquent, you know, going
Speaker 1: to the store, stealing, fucking around at school. And I
Speaker 1: don't really know like what drove it. I think it
Speaker 1: was either like I got ADHD, have a hard time focusing,
Speaker 1: need to do like what impulsive shit to keep going,
Speaker 1: or maybe I was just bored. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: so you.
Speaker 2: Just kind of like we're out of boredom. You were
Speaker 2: just fucking around, getting in like small trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was fucking around. Nothing really major.
Speaker 1: I would bad grades in school, you know, that type
Speaker 1: of thing. And then once I got into high school
Speaker 1: and I started meeting all these new people and like
Speaker 1: going to you know, parties and like social events and shit,
Speaker 1: you know you go to homecoming, Yeah, drinking liquor in
Speaker 1: the parking lot type shit. You know. That's when I
Speaker 1: really got introduced to the stuff that a lot of
Speaker 1: people now know me for, you know, and and see me,
Speaker 1: you know, make videos about was it weed? Initially I
Speaker 1: drank first, but after that, yeah, we was my first
Speaker 1: thing that I really picked up, Like damn, this is it?
Speaker 2: Like this is amazing?
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I my first time smoking. I remember I
Speaker 1: was fifteen and me and my friends we went to
Speaker 1: this little forest preserve and we had rolled this blunt
Speaker 1: and it was a swisher as I'm like, garbage. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell we put in it, but
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen year old kids not smoking anything good, right,
Speaker 1: So we hopped out of the forest reserved and we
Speaker 1: were walking around and my first time, I didn't really
Speaker 1: get very high, you know, I didn't get what all
Speaker 1: the hype was about. I was like, damn, this is it,
Speaker 1: you know, like this fucking sucks. And then a couple
Speaker 1: of days later, I hung out with the same dudes
Speaker 1: again and they were like, yoh, just try it again,
Speaker 1: go for it, you know, second time, fucking greatest night
Speaker 1: in my life. Like I will never forget that night.
Speaker 1: It was like it was just I had been drunk before,
Speaker 1: you know, but this was something different, and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of weird because like I'd never
Speaker 1: I'd never felt anything like that before, you know, so
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, the first time you get like smacked, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get really stoned. You're like man, mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're just sitting there.
Speaker 2: Different because it is way different than getting drunk.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep percent.
Speaker 2: I think I think most people, like you know, I
Speaker 2: think I don't know if I you, because I mean, look,
Speaker 2: you're always you're gonna get higher than the first time
Speaker 2: you've been smacked if you keep smoking. But I think,
Speaker 2: just like that first time, I just remember the first
Speaker 2: time I got like super high. I got super fucking paranoid,
Speaker 2: like I had to be sativa. I was at a party, dude,
Speaker 2: and I just started. I had like the freakout high,
Speaker 2: which is like the ship you see in the movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 2: Before I had like the just fucking I'm out bro
Speaker 2: like you know, but yeah, the freakout high is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that shit's not fun, not fun at all. Man,
Speaker 1: heart starts racing. You're sitting there and you're like, am
Speaker 1: I breathing enough?
Speaker 2: So for you?
Speaker 1: You start smoking? In high school yep. Yeah, I was fifteen.
Speaker 1: I started smoking. My grades were already bad going into that,
Speaker 1: they were already fucked. They were all yeah. My junior
Speaker 1: year of high school, I finished. My GPA was zero
Speaker 1: point eighth, so yeah, I had below one. So they
Speaker 1: kicked my ass out of school and sent me to
Speaker 1: the alternative school.
Speaker 2: The pregnant chicks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so, so it was funny would babysitters. My
Speaker 1: alternative school had less than one hundred kids in it,
Speaker 1: whole school, and out of that maybe five of them
Speaker 1: were girls. Three of them were pregnant, like on rotation
Speaker 1: any given moment. Yeah, it was. It was a trip.
Speaker 1: But once I got sent there is really where you know,
Speaker 1: my my drug use and all that kind of opened up.
Speaker 2: Because all those kids are with the shit.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, you know. Going into it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is probably just other kids who like don't really care.
Speaker 1: And then I got there and I'm like, oh, these
Speaker 1: kids are taking zans for breakfast and shit, like okay,
Speaker 1: I see you know first period, like before class starts,
Speaker 1: they're smoking blunts in the fucking stall. You know, like okay,
Speaker 1: different schooling, super different.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because when I was in high school, I'm
Speaker 2: probably older than you. I'm thirty six. So when I
Speaker 2: was in high school, like soma's were popping, so people
Speaker 2: would like crush up somas and stuff. This was before
Speaker 2: zan's were like a thing.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was vicoting. It was so was and it was weed.
Speaker 2: And then the Mormon kids would do heroin. Dude, I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is about the Mormon kids from
Speaker 2: where I'm from, shout to Mesa. These fucking kids always
Speaker 2: were getting the girls were getting fucked in the ass
Speaker 2: because it was their loophole to not break the holy loophole.
Speaker 2: The Holy loophole, and the and everybody else was fucking
Speaker 2: all the kids who partied that were Mormon were shooting heroin.
Speaker 2: It was the wildest shit ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, it's kind of funny. My my
Speaker 1: high school's like big drug of choice. They were always
Speaker 1: like on the local news and shit for heroin. Od's
Speaker 1: because I grew up in like a pretty nice area
Speaker 1: with a lot of like just Christian kids, and shit,
Speaker 1: it's always those kids. Yes, it's the super religious kids
Speaker 1: that go hard as happen. They want to be like
Speaker 1: fuck your fuck the parents. Yeah, and they've been holding
Speaker 1: it in for like, you know, fifteen twenty however long years.
Speaker 1: You know, they're ready to blow.
Speaker 2: In more than one way way.
Speaker 1: So did you start?
Speaker 2: You go from weed you're fifteen, You go to the
Speaker 2: alternative schools that we start dimbling in Dablin with some
Speaker 2: of the more hardcore ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, prior to getting to that school. You know,
Speaker 1: I tried a couple of things. I'd done the xanax,
Speaker 1: you know, I tried like getting high off the cough meds.
Speaker 2: You know, so you were sipping some Leane.
Speaker 1: No, no, not the lean, like going to walgreensaling like
Speaker 1: quail and ship. Yeah yeah, I mean I didn't have
Speaker 1: the money for lean, dude. Yeah, yeah, we're going to Walgreens.
Speaker 1: We're hitting the shelves and flu yup, yup. You ever
Speaker 1: heard of a triple seas?
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard of that.
Speaker 1: The Christenen coughing cold pills yep. Yeah, those little bad
Speaker 1: boys yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I took one like three months ago.
Speaker 1: They still make those fuckers, and I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. You used to take those and
Speaker 1: just get fucked all the time. Yeah, I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I took him. There's this kid named Andrew,
Speaker 1: you all called him Mop, And I went over to
Speaker 1: hang out with him, and he was like everyone knew
Speaker 1: him as just eating fucking boxes and these things. Like Yo,
Speaker 1: catch Andrew early in the day. He's gonna be like
Speaker 1: face down, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Eating this ship from the drug store.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, eating the Triple Seas. So he'd eat like
Speaker 1: two boxes of these things. It was fifteen about heat,
Speaker 1: like thirty of these bitches a day, and uh, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? I went over and my first time I
Speaker 1: asked him, I was like, how many should I take?
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, like fifteen. And I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: because I didn't understand like dosages or anything yet. I've
Speaker 1: never done a school No. I was thank god, dude.
Speaker 1: I was face down on Homie's lawn for like two
Speaker 1: hours middle of something. It was like July. I was
Speaker 1: sweating and shit. But yeah, so I I like went
Speaker 1: over there. I asked him I woued to do? He
Speaker 1: told me fifteen took that shit terrible ass experience, but
Speaker 1: it was the first alternative to weed and liquor that
Speaker 1: I was introduced to. Yeah, so I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it again, like take a little less.
Speaker 1: And then I got real into it and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I can bring this.
Speaker 2: To school and just like sick, I'm sick.
Speaker 1: And sick, you know, yeah, say I have a cold.
Speaker 1: So I would fucking throw the Triple Seas in my
Speaker 1: bag like every day I throw.
Speaker 2: You like put him in your drink and then I'm dissolved.
Speaker 1: No, I just pop them. I would just go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom take like five or six.
Speaker 2: Of all, and then you would you fucking just come back
Speaker 2: to class and knock out on your arm like that.
Speaker 1: See. So the whole the whole point of getting high
Speaker 1: off the DXM, the cough meds is you got to
Speaker 1: fight the sleep because that's when the fun starts. So
Speaker 1: it's like if you fall sleep, you lost you know.
Speaker 2: So if you if you go to sleep, you've missed
Speaker 2: out on the fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're missing it all. You know, you're missing the
Speaker 1: good shit. And cough meds they're like it's not even
Speaker 1: fun really. Yeah, the most like fucking awful like poverty
Speaker 1: drug to do. Like it's really the only people abusing
Speaker 1: cough meds are like kids who have no money. It's
Speaker 1: poverty drug, you know. So I uh, I just like
Speaker 1: I remember just loving like fighting the sleep and sitting
Speaker 1: there in like second third period in school and just
Speaker 1: being like, yo, I'm feeling fucking weird, you know, looking
Speaker 1: at the wall and shit's just like I got tracers everywhere,
Speaker 1: and like, wow, shit's glowing a little bit.
Speaker 2: So you go from doing that when because because you,
Speaker 2: I mean, is it safe to say you've tried every
Speaker 2: pretty like.
Speaker 1: The only i'd say major drugs or like main drugs.
Speaker 1: I haven't tried meth. Heroin. Fentanyl wasn't really popular in
Speaker 1: my area when I was young, but now it is.
Speaker 1: I I haven't really done fentanyl either, no math, no
Speaker 1: no math, heroin, fentanyl, haven't done. I did smoke crack
Speaker 1: one time?
Speaker 2: How, Okay, I gotta know this because I always I
Speaker 2: watched Snowfall. Have you watched the show Snowfall?
Speaker 1: No? So I've heard of it though, great show.
Speaker 2: Right In this show, everyone who smokes crack, they they
Speaker 2: end up sucking dick for it, and I guess the
Speaker 2: like you know, the stigma about crack is that it's
Speaker 2: so good that straight men will suck dick to get
Speaker 2: more of it if they're poor. Yep, So how was
Speaker 2: smoking crack?
Speaker 1: Honestly? Pretty shit? I'm not gonna lie. And granted I
Speaker 1: might have had a bit of a skew experience because
Speaker 1: we made the shit and none of us knew how
Speaker 1: to do it. So you re rostered your own crack. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we went on it. We were so we've gotten out
Speaker 1: of school and I had a buddy named Ashton and
Speaker 1: he used to sell a bunch of coke. He'd show
Speaker 1: up to school and just like serf kids, you know,
Speaker 1: great bags in the bathroom and shit. One day we
Speaker 1: get out of school and he's got a baggy on
Speaker 1: him and we get a ride over to my place
Speaker 1: and we were originally just going to out do some
Speaker 1: bumps and he's like, Yo, I'm fucking bored of this shit.
Speaker 1: Let's yeah's step it up, like, let's cook this. Let's
Speaker 1: fucking yeah, let's do some shit. So we hop on
Speaker 1: our phones and we start looking up. We were literally
Speaker 1: just on like YouTube and shit, just like how to
Speaker 1: cook crack. Yeah, And we're on fucking Google looking this
Speaker 1: shit up. And there's a bunch of these little forums
Speaker 1: that you can go on that are just in the
Speaker 1: debt the pit to the internet, like you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: on and we're finding these like step by step guides
Speaker 1: and shit. And we found this one. But this guy
Speaker 1: had a video and it was how to make like
Speaker 1: a personal serving in a spoon. And we were like, yo, oh,
Speaker 1: he needs fucking baking soda, you know, a little water
Speaker 1: lighter and a spoon and some tinfoil and goddamn freezer
Speaker 1: and you're in this bitch, and we had all those things,
Speaker 1: so we were like, yo, let's fucking try it. So
Speaker 1: we went through the process.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We took one of my mom's little spoons and we
Speaker 1: fucking cooked up on there, and then we transferred it
Speaker 1: onto the tinfoil. After we'd separated everything, we froze it
Speaker 1: and we let it sit for like felt like an eternity,
Speaker 1: probably like five minutes, you know, we were impatient, and
Speaker 1: then we pulled it out and we realized we were like, damn,
Speaker 1: we got nothing to smoke it out of, so then
Speaker 1: we had to make a little tinfoil fucking crack pipe
Speaker 1: and get out of that. Honestly, it was kind of
Speaker 1: like underwhelming, and it's probably just because we cooked some garbage.
Speaker 1: Like A, the cocaine couldn't have been great. We were
Speaker 1: like sixteen, you know, and B we didn't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck we were doing, you know, so you.
Speaker 2: Didn't you probably didn't have the full, like the full experience,
Speaker 2: yeah crack, but I did feel it, and it was
Speaker 2: it lasted like two minutes, if even, and it was like.
Speaker 1: You ever done coke?
Speaker 2: I've never done any drugs but hallucinogenics and weed.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. That's good for the viewers out there,
Speaker 1: that's good.
Speaker 2: I grew up in a house where my aunt and
Speaker 2: my uncles all their spoons were burnt.
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, I had a bunch of dope fiends. Yes,
Speaker 1: you didn't want to be around that shit. You don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. Yeah, okay. For me it was
Speaker 1: the opposite. All my spoons were clean, So let me up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I oh god, I lost my train.
Speaker 2: No, we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You asked me if i'd ever done coke.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So essentially, like when you when you do coke,
Speaker 1: it's like every time you do the first line from
Speaker 1: being like bone sober, you just get this like this rush.
Speaker 1: It goes straight to your fucking head and you feel
Speaker 1: it and then it kind of like comes down.
Speaker 2: You gotta keep doing you now.
Speaker 1: Right With crack, it's like that rush, like you know
Speaker 1: how when I said with the coke kind of comes
Speaker 1: down over you. With crack, it never comes down over you.
Speaker 1: It just straight fucking rush, and you're it's like coke
Speaker 1: sped up. You know, you're just on like a hundred
Speaker 1: time speed. Everything goes by very quickly. I got pissed off.
Speaker 1: I remember I punched my mom's cabinet. I was like, yo, like,
Speaker 1: so my friend hit it and then he passed it
Speaker 1: to me and he was like, yo, like this is
Speaker 1: fucking this is crazy. And I hit it and I
Speaker 1: was like yeah, and I just fucking sent it through
Speaker 1: the cabinet, you know. I was like, fuck, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. So you hit the.
Speaker 2: Crack and then punch your mom's cabinet almost immediately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much immediately. And I was just like, me
Speaker 1: and my friend are just body boxing each other each other,
Speaker 1: just on crack fucking around. Yeah, just passing the fucking
Speaker 1: little tinfoil pipe around And it lasted a whole like
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seconds if even we came down
Speaker 1: and we were just like that was kind of underwhelming.
Speaker 2: Damn, it's gone already.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was expecting a little better out of that.
Speaker 1: But I also totally get, like crackheads exist, you get,
Speaker 1: because like, yeah, because even that god awful like garbage
Speaker 1: crack we cooked, I still felt like, you know, a
Speaker 1: little little hey, now, you know, a little lit I
Speaker 1: could only imagine what the good shit's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you always hear like everybody who does crack
Speaker 2: there just they just spend the rest of their life
Speaker 2: chasing the first time they did it. Yeah, which is
Speaker 2: a very that sounds amazing to me, which is I
Speaker 2: don't want.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, you know, that's that's I think. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm very thankful that my first experience with was with
Speaker 1: shitty crack.
Speaker 2: This is true because you know you might not be hearing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if it was good crack, I would have
Speaker 1: been out there, dude, I would have been.
Speaker 2: Gone at what point in time. I'm because I I saw, uh,
Speaker 2: you would kind of you've kind of kicked back a
Speaker 2: bit on like the excessive drug use.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm I'm calie sober now.
Speaker 2: So you're who's energenic suite?
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, streams and weed or all I've done for
Speaker 1: the past two years. Well, that's amazing that it's been
Speaker 1: pretty good. Thank you appreciation.
Speaker 2: What would you say was your low point with addiction
Speaker 2: and the and the hard ship. Were you selling shit?
Speaker 2: Were you?
Speaker 1: I mean I always I always sold like whatever I had,
Speaker 1: but I was never selling enough to make any fucking money.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying were you selling shit? Like,
Speaker 2: did you ever to the point where you were like, oh,
Speaker 2: liquid and all as sell something to get ship to
Speaker 2: get at.
Speaker 1: I sold my ship once I ran out of that.
Speaker 1: I was selling my dad ship. I was selling everything.
Speaker 1: I would go in the garage and pull out random
Speaker 1: like hammers and tools and ship and go hit the
Speaker 1: you know, hit the pawn shop like you can get
Speaker 1: I get a dub for these, like come on, man.
Speaker 1: But as I I gotten a little older, I guess
Speaker 1: what I view is my like actual rock bottom point.
Speaker 1: When I was like twenty, I got a duy and
Speaker 1: it kind of yeah, sucks, sucks ass so awful, cost
Speaker 1: of shitload of money to deal with. Don't recommend it. Literally,
Speaker 1: like a thousand ubers is cheaper than duy, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous. But I got a Duy and then
Speaker 1: I got kicked out of my mom's house because I
Speaker 1: was still living with my parents. You know, I was
Speaker 1: twenty at the time. I'm twenty four now. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I got kicked out of my mom's house and I
Speaker 1: had like two thousand dollars to my name, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, this ain't even a fucking deposit, yeah, apartment, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: not shit. So I had a homie whose brother I
Speaker 1: bought weed from, and he had this little, like shit
Speaker 1: whole house that he was like four months behind on rent.
Speaker 1: And it was in central Illinois, little town called Springfield.
Speaker 1: Bump fuck nowhere, I mean Springfield. It's the capital's springfield.
Speaker 1: Everywhere there is. Yeah, every damn state has a Springfield. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Illinois Springfield is a sad place to be, Okay, And.
Speaker 2: I hear Illinois as a state is kind of fucked
Speaker 2: outside of like yeah, yeah, nice part of Chicago.
Speaker 1: So if you go any direction about forty five minutes
Speaker 1: out of Chicago, you're pretty much a no man's land.
Speaker 1: Like because Gary, Indiana's right there. I heard that Gary's awful, terrible, brutal, brutal.
Speaker 1: It's like when people like, you know, they make the
Speaker 1: jokes about you know, Detroit, it's like how you picture
Speaker 1: Detroit is actually Gary, It's actually Gary. Yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: to Detroit's nice. I was just there in July.
Speaker 2: Not a bad spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Troit's great. Gary is the real Detroit. Gary is
Speaker 1: the actual Detroit. Yeah. Gary is a shithole and it's
Speaker 1: never coming back. Yeah, yeah, any direction, forty five minutes
Speaker 1: out Chicago shithole.
Speaker 2: So you you ended up getting with your boy who
Speaker 2: was four months behind on rent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I took over. He subleased it to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was illegally. I just he told me.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, it's all good. You know, Landlord's
Speaker 1: cool with that shit. He wasn't cool with that shit.
Speaker 1: So I moved into this house. It was six hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a month. There was no gas, there was no heat,
Speaker 1: there was no air. There was like it was pretty
Speaker 1: much walls and a ceiling. You know, it was a
Speaker 1: ship hole. Yeah, place to sleep, that's it. We had
Speaker 1: no stove, we had no like none of that ship
Speaker 1: So there's a place to sleep though. So I lived
Speaker 1: there for like two months. And I lived there with
Speaker 1: two other roommates, and then both of them ended up bailing,
Speaker 1: so I was there alone. I was like, yoh, I
Speaker 1: can't afford this ship, right, Like, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: So I started live streaming and I started doing this
Speaker 1: ship where I would take shots for donations. I'd be
Speaker 1: like yo, yeah shots, I'd be like, yo, I gotta
Speaker 1: pay my rent this month. I'm like two un bucks
Speaker 1: short fucking hop on go live, take some shots, you know.
Speaker 1: So I kind of ran that for like a few months.
Speaker 2: Was that your initial like introduction to streaming.
Speaker 1: Consistent? Yeah, I had streamed a couple times prior to that, but.
Speaker 2: That was kind of like, what, what kind of motivated
Speaker 2: to really do it?
Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, it was. It was a, I guess, kind
Speaker 1: of a rough way to start it, you know, fucking
Speaker 1: getting blackout drunk every stream. Yeah, because at that point
Speaker 1: I was still doing the coke and everything. So I
Speaker 1: was just getting blackout drunk, dude my bums to keep
Speaker 1: me going and then drinking more. You know, were you
Speaker 1: on camera doing the shots? Yeah? Okay, okay, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: well you never were doing the drugs on camera, No,
Speaker 1: I would always So I used to do this thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should say what platform because
Speaker 1: I'm still on there, but I was on a certain
Speaker 1: platform where I would live stream and when I was
Speaker 1: really really like big in a ketamine, I went through
Speaker 1: a phase a couple years ago where I was super
Speaker 1: heavy into that shit. I would tell I'd tell my chat,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Yo, the fucking the Vet's calling bro
Speaker 1: about my like pet horse, you know, and I'd fucking
Speaker 1: lean down and I'd do my do my K bumps
Speaker 1: off the fucking phone and I come back out and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, horse is good, bro, Like that call
Speaker 1: will be straight, you know, like be good. And I
Speaker 1: would do that and they tip you, you know, would
Speaker 1: they tip you? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I wouldn't do
Speaker 1: it for money directly, but like, you know, i'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: we got some fucking do some K you know, like
Speaker 1: thanks to the ten bomb dude, Like fuck yeah, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't like hold it up to the camera and
Speaker 1: do it, so I had to be a little more
Speaker 1: low key about it. But yeah, I sounds like twitch
Speaker 1: to me. One of the platforms will leave it at that,
Speaker 1: one of the but either way, I uh, that's how
Speaker 1: I kind of like got my way out of that
Speaker 1: house because the landlord came by on Christmas Day and
Speaker 1: found that, like found all my stuff in there. I
Speaker 1: wasn't home at the time, thank god.
Speaker 2: And the landlord probably doesn't know you're living there.
Speaker 1: No, does not know. He doesn't think anyone's living there
Speaker 1: any Okay, So now that I think about it, I
Speaker 1: don't even know if my rent money ever made it
Speaker 1: to the landlord because I.
Speaker 2: Was your boy. Probably just took it.
Speaker 1: Probably it probably Hey, either way, I had a fucking roof,
Speaker 1: you know, calls me the same either way, no matter
Speaker 1: who went to so I don't give a shit. But yeah,
Speaker 1: So on Christmas Day, actually the landlord pulled up while
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, thank god, and he found all my
Speaker 1: shit in there, rented a dumpster and just threw out
Speaker 1: all my shit. So I got some stuff out, thank god.
Speaker 1: My computer I got out, like I got one of
Speaker 1: my computer monitors. But beyond my computer and like one
Speaker 1: of my monitors, everything else was in the garbage.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there and I'm like, fuck, bro, Like now,
Speaker 1: you know, thankfully I had somewhere else I was able
Speaker 1: to go in the same town, you know, so I
Speaker 1: ended up funny enough. I actually there was a chick
Speaker 1: who was a viewer who I had on Snapchat who
Speaker 1: one day she was like looking on snap maps and
Speaker 1: like saw me down there. I was like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck are you doing in this you know, yeah, what
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing in this ship hole? And
Speaker 1: she had a house that she was renting out because
Speaker 1: her rich ass parents bought her a crib to live
Speaker 1: in with her boyfriend. The dude cheated on her, so
Speaker 1: she was moving back to California. So I was like,
Speaker 1: bat lock me the fucking get me in there, you know,
Speaker 1: put me in. And that house wasn't much better than
Speaker 1: the first one, but it had you know, fans in it,
Speaker 1: so at least I had some airflow going, you know,
Speaker 1: and we had heat. Yeah, So I was still doing
Speaker 1: like the you know, the ketamine. The fucking the drunk
Speaker 1: streams were a big, like daily thing at that point.
Speaker 2: So you're just drinking your.
Speaker 1: Life going, going ape shit, drinking my life away, fucking
Speaker 1: storting my life away, whatever fits in my nasal cavities
Speaker 1: going in, you know. And I had gotten to a
Speaker 1: point where like I wasn't having fun anymore. After like
Speaker 1: a year and a half of doing that, you know,
Speaker 1: they got to the point where I would like, I
Speaker 1: would get drunk and i'd do my blow to like
Speaker 1: like bring myself back too, so I could drink more,
Speaker 1: and I would just feel my heart fucking dumping and
Speaker 1: i'd be tripping. I'd be sitting there like, yoh am,
Speaker 1: I gonna have a fucking heart attack today, Like it
Speaker 1: was beaten, like I get like done done, they would
Speaker 1: slow down and they go like done.
Speaker 2: I do feel it, yeah, I could feel it like
Speaker 2: my heart beat, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like there was one day where I got this.
Speaker 1: I had just done like a couple of lines and
Speaker 1: I got this fucking super sharp pain in my cocaine, coke, coke.
Speaker 1: But I would mix them up. I would do like
Speaker 1: the coke and the K lines. I'd do the coke
Speaker 1: and the molly lions just fucking swish it up. You
Speaker 1: know which. Stupidest thing ever, they don't have any synergy
Speaker 1: at all cooking, kay, Like you're just wasting drugs.
Speaker 2: But they can sell each other out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, somewhat. Like I mean, especially with K, you
Speaker 1: have to do a very limited amount of it before,
Speaker 1: like without K holing yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I Actually we just had a guy, my boy,
Speaker 2: Gorilla Nimbs, was on the show and he told us
Speaker 2: a story. He said he was doing it and he
Speaker 2: said he remembered the date. He said him and this
Speaker 2: girl were doing it together and they were fucking and
Speaker 2: they both got it. He said essentially it was like
Speaker 2: July third, and he woke up on July fifth. He said,
Speaker 2: I woke up on top of her and we both
Speaker 2: like just passed out for two days and like passed
Speaker 2: out through all of the fourth of July.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's the way it goes, dude. I used to
Speaker 1: do that a lot of Xanax all the time. I'd
Speaker 1: fucking go to bet on Friday, wake up on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the zan shit's crazy, especially if you mix it
Speaker 2: with the with alcohol. Dude, Oh it's over with It's bad, dude.
Speaker 2: You know, my son's my baby mama who's a fucking
Speaker 2: psychopathic piece of shit addict as well. God bless her, dude.
Speaker 2: This bitch used to fucking drink like a fish and
Speaker 2: then do Xanax and it was like she would just
Speaker 2: die for like twenty hours. Yeah, I mean she crashed
Speaker 2: our car into the fucking apartment complex sign got a
Speaker 2: DUI ruined. Oh my god, just the word. That shit's crazy.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: When people drink and dow Zan's, it's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like you're like, what are you signing up for? At
Speaker 2: that point you're signing up for?
Speaker 1: Like Zan's are the devil? Man, Zan's are the devil.
Speaker 1: I've heard zans are rough.
Speaker 2: Cause there's and then there's people who could who just
Speaker 2: do them to go to sleep on an airplane? Uh
Speaker 2: huh yeah, yeah, I'll just take a Xanax on the airplane.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know if I could. I
Speaker 2: know myself and I know I have an addictive personality
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna gave me the other shit yep. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, if I take a Xanax, I don't know
Speaker 2: what happens next for me.
Speaker 1: Xanax is like if you know you have an addictive personality,
Speaker 1: x X is like the mother of all fucking addictive
Speaker 1: things you could try. And the reason I say that
Speaker 1: is because it's cheap as fuck. There's no social stigma
Speaker 1: around it, like you know, Heroin or like path. Right,
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to get real zany easy, super easy.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's pretty safe compared to like trying to get
Speaker 2: like you know, yeah, yeah, perk thirties.
Speaker 1: You're gonna then not be realistically if if you go
Speaker 1: to like Walgreens and pick up a prescription, you know
Speaker 1: you could pop that, you know, damn near the whole
Speaker 1: bottle and you're gonna knock yourself out before you're actually
Speaker 1: gonna die or anything, right, you know what you're saying,
Speaker 1: so it's it's one of those things where like people
Speaker 1: view it as such a like not a hard drug almost,
Speaker 1: and it's so bad. It's so bad. It's so addictive
Speaker 1: when you try to quit that ship. I had a
Speaker 1: homie who tried to quit and he was having seizures
Speaker 1: and shit, like it's bad.
Speaker 2: You always hear about like when people try to quit opiates,
Speaker 2: they they have I mean, I've experienced it with my
Speaker 2: son's mom, where she was trying to quit, she would
Speaker 2: have leg pains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, it was a lot. It's like that with
Speaker 1: Xanax too. It's bad. I've I personally never had to
Speaker 1: really go through the Xanax withdrawals because when I was
Speaker 1: doing Xanax, when I finally stopped doing that, I was
Speaker 1: still in my stage where I'd just replaced one drug
Speaker 1: with another. So yeah, it was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: done with xanaxes. Take some fucking hydros, Like, all right,
Speaker 1: done with the hydros, cocaine, ketamine, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: You know, did you ever have a point in time
Speaker 2: where you thought you were close to overdosing?
Speaker 1: So there were here? Yeah, actually, so when I was seventeen, Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, do you have a lighter. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a smoke friendly podcast, I assume. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: watched the Yola episode. I didn't know if you had
Speaker 1: like a there's my lineamer before you started or anything.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, feel free.
Speaker 2: To uh ashen that uh asshole? What a beauty shout blasi.
Speaker 2: That's what is that called? Backshot? Becky? What is this?
Speaker 1: Bend over, Becky, bend over becky, shout and over. That
Speaker 1: is fire. We were talking.
Speaker 2: About it where like they should have put a hole
Speaker 2: where a bohole is supposed to go to sit your joint.
Speaker 1: Oh, that would have been fire. Maybe just a little
Speaker 1: bit like a little like a little thing just to
Speaker 1: sit it, you know, right in there, right in the crack.
Speaker 1: That'd be perfect. Yuh hey it works though damn Hey
Speaker 1: maybe the V two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the V shout out to the vs. But yeah,
Speaker 2: So okay, so what was the the scare you had?
Speaker 1: So when I was like seventeen, I had taken some
Speaker 1: acid that I bought from a homi of mine, okay,
Speaker 1: and it ended up being fake shit and ended up
Speaker 1: being what's called twenty five I So it's have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of like heard of that? So it's a
Speaker 1: it's a research chemical. Uh that's supposed to be similar
Speaker 1: to acid, but it's dirt cheap. Like LSD's already pretty cheap, right,
Speaker 1: but twenty five I is like, you can, you know,
Speaker 1: ten cents for a tab of that shit, you know,
Speaker 1: like dirt.
Speaker 2: Cheap, because like a tab is what five to ten.
Speaker 1: Bucks if even Yeah, if you're buying like two bucks
Speaker 1: buck fifty, you know that's crazy. Yup, yup. Yeah. When
Speaker 1: I used to go online and buy sheets and shit,
Speaker 1: it's like when you buy a sheet or two at
Speaker 1: a time, it's like buck fifteen, two bucks a tab.
Speaker 1: You know, it's graz So I I had taken some
Speaker 1: shit that a homie had bought online from some random
Speaker 1: vendor that he never bought from before. And this is
Speaker 1: back when like you know, alphabet and like all those
Speaker 1: old deep websites weren't getting busted. Yeh. Dark web stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: dark web stuff. That's how and all my homeies got
Speaker 1: our ship back in high school. Just hop on there
Speaker 1: fucking get some shit, you know, dude, I just I
Speaker 1: have the book.
Speaker 2: Where's it at? I have the Dark Web Book? Oh
Speaker 2: right there, American k Kingpin. It's about a behind sting
Speaker 2: it's about the guy who see it. It's about the
Speaker 2: guy who created.
Speaker 1: A silk road. Yeah, Rossa. What's his name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's the guy who busted him. That's his book.
Speaker 2: And then they they kind of I think they made
Speaker 2: a movie. I watched the movie. The movie was fucking terrible.
Speaker 2: I hope they remake that that movie, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a good story. It's such a good story.
Speaker 2: But when they did the movie, it was like some
Speaker 2: indie shit. It just came out. Yeah, but yeah, so okay, continue.
Speaker 2: So you were on the was it the what's it eye?
Speaker 1: What twenty five called?
Speaker 2: Like a road?
Speaker 1: I took a few tabs and I was just like
Speaker 1: fucking tweaking. I felt really funny, and I felt this
Speaker 1: like tingling all through me and shit, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was just like, you know, maybe I was just
Speaker 1: tripping really hard, but like I was, I'd done a
Speaker 1: shitloaded acid at that point. This is nothing like anything
Speaker 1: I'd ever felt. So I was like, yo, something's weird.
Speaker 1: And at some point I called my mom throughout the night,
Speaker 1: literally middle of the night, tripping shit like two am,
Speaker 1: called my mom, and apparently I was just speaking like gibberish,
Speaker 1: like no fucking words coming out at all. So she
Speaker 1: was freaked out because she already knew about all my
Speaker 1: drug use and shit, she called the cops because I
Speaker 1: was staying at my dad's house at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my dad didn't give a fuck, bro, Like he didn't care,
Speaker 1: You didn't care what I was on my fucking go
Speaker 1: do it on the lawn, you know, like, don't do
Speaker 1: it in here. So he was asleep in the other room.
Speaker 1: My mom calls the ambulance. They show up at my house,
Speaker 1: and I started, like I knew something was wrong leading
Speaker 1: up to like her calling the ambulance and shit, like
Speaker 1: I knew this wasn't any normal experience, but I didn't
Speaker 1: realize I was having a cardiac arrest. So as they
Speaker 1: got there, I get in the ambulance and like I
Speaker 1: didn't really fucking remember anything, right, Like I don't. I
Speaker 1: had this I remember very vaguely, this kind of like
Speaker 1: almost like an outer body kind of thing. I was like,
Speaker 1: I just felt like I was like remembering things almost
Speaker 1: like I was like in my head, I was like
Speaker 1: remembering things, but like they weren't like my like it
Speaker 1: wasn't me, Like it wasn't like my memory you know,
Speaker 1: I was like tripping the fuck out, and I get
Speaker 1: to the hospital and I came to a little later
Speaker 1: in this room and they had me all like the
Speaker 1: oxygen like.
Speaker 2: Things like a fucking you with the what's the car?
Speaker 1: I don't really know what they did, but they got
Speaker 1: you back. Yeah, yeah, they got because pretty much my
Speaker 1: last moment of consciousness that I really remember was like
Speaker 1: kind of first being in the ambulance and then there's
Speaker 1: a big gap where I don't really know what the
Speaker 1: fuck happened until way later, once I was like in
Speaker 1: the hospital bed like parents, they are chilling. So after that,
Speaker 1: because I was still a minor, I had no say
Speaker 1: and whether or not I got sent to like a
Speaker 1: facility or anything over that. Uh and the state regulations
Speaker 1: where if any like minor suffers like a drug related
Speaker 1: like overdose or incident, they immediately go into the psych
Speaker 1: word for evaluation. So you have to go in I'm
Speaker 1: a two timer. What it was like word twice actually,
Speaker 1: So the first time was when I was like sixteen,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like an overdose. It was because I
Speaker 1: got arrested for some dumb shit and they were like, yo,
Speaker 1: fucking put his ass in there, you know. But the
Speaker 1: second time around, you know, they sent me in there
Speaker 1: and they ended up shipping me up to Minnesota to
Speaker 1: a residential facility for like.
Speaker 2: Two and a half months, kind of like a rehab.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a rehab. It was. It was
Speaker 1: called Hazelden. It was like a pretty nice one. I've
Speaker 1: had a bunch of people in my comments try to
Speaker 1: gas I've never said it, so now now they know, yep.
Speaker 2: Was it twelve? Because there, you know there are nowadays,
Speaker 2: there's so many different I grew up my uncle, like
Speaker 2: I said, all my family's addicts. My uncle's like a
Speaker 2: legendary drug addict.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: This guy used to shoot up in his like in
Speaker 2: the corner of his eyes.
Speaker 1: Oh that's heavy.
Speaker 2: You used to shoot up between hard shoot up between
Speaker 2: his toasts, shoot up in his own arms so we
Speaker 2: wouldn't have tracks.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Uh, this guy's fucking a maniac, turns into a fucking millionaire,
Speaker 2: opens a drug rehab. So I grew up working for
Speaker 2: him for minimum wage from the time I was like
Speaker 2: twelve to like eighteen around crackheads, like.
Speaker 1: I'm literally my teenage years.
Speaker 2: I work for my uncle in his businesses, that are
Speaker 2: fully employed by people who are in his rehab. So
Speaker 2: I'm just hanging out with just grown convicts, sex offenders,
Speaker 2: drug addicts at all fucking times. And it's crazy because nowadays,
Speaker 2: like that's straight twelve step program, which is very strict,
Speaker 2: you know, but nowadays it feels like there's like like
Speaker 2: cannabis like therapy.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they got all sorts of shit.
Speaker 2: Now they got the psilocybin site.
Speaker 1: I'm a twelve step.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the twelve step you gotta do. So how
Speaker 2: far like did you buy into that at any point?
Speaker 1: No? No, I mean I get I think what works
Speaker 1: about it for people is not necessarily the actual steps,
Speaker 1: but just the routine, you know, because gives you some
Speaker 1: sort of routine. Yeah, going to a meeting every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, you get a chip. You know, drug addicts
Speaker 1: and and you know alcoholics in general, they don't have
Speaker 1: a routine. They lacked up shit. Yeah, so you get
Speaker 1: a routine in there and now the good.
Speaker 2: Yeah you got to go to a meeting. You got it.
Speaker 1: For me, it didn't didn't do it.
Speaker 2: Did you ever have a sponsor?
Speaker 1: I did? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hit this? Did you ever call a sponsor? Okay, I
Speaker 2: might fucking doe.
Speaker 1: Right, No, I never my first like I was, so
Speaker 1: I went to a few meetings once I got out
Speaker 1: of the residential place I had to go into like
Speaker 1: outpatient treatment still, and they were requiring me to go
Speaker 1: to meetings in order to like get discharged from there
Speaker 1: because you had to go. Yeah, be checked that you
Speaker 1: were there, yup, yup. Yeah, I had to do the
Speaker 1: whole d nine yards.
Speaker 2: You want to hit this by the way, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: what do we got? This?
Speaker 1: Which one did I open? This is from La Family Farms. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a donut so nice, little stick of rosin in
Speaker 1: the middle. Honestly, don't remember what's trained.
Speaker 2: But I like the glass tip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they get them done. They're a little a little.
Speaker 2: Like this is a different glass tip though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you normally don't see them like that sticking
Speaker 1: out and everything normally. Yeah, that's different, tiny and in there,
Speaker 1: but that shit, I like it.
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that shot.
Speaker 1: I think these tips are new, actually, because I don't
Speaker 1: say I've never seen them. Yeah, I don't remember these tips.
Speaker 2: I've seen re rolls with the glass tips, but they're
Speaker 2: just like the kind of the normal ones that you see.
Speaker 1: Yep. Damn the hole in this is kind of disappointing, though,
Speaker 1: I see that. That's it's pretty fucking that's what she said.
Speaker 2: That's what damn. So you get out of a you
Speaker 2: go to outpatient. Yep, this is how old are you
Speaker 2: at this time? Eighteen eighteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I turned eighteen while I was in rehab.
Speaker 2: So you turn eighteen in rehab, you get out, you
Speaker 2: end up by the time you're nineteen, is when this
Speaker 2: apartment thing happens, right.
Speaker 1: I was twenty, so twenty. At what point in time
Speaker 1: did you realize.
Speaker 2: People liked you on the internet and you could kind
Speaker 2: of like you had a little niche going.
Speaker 1: Like so when I when I went into rehab, I
Speaker 1: posted like literally, I was sitting in the car on
Speaker 1: my way to Minnesota and I posted this video. It
Speaker 1: was just like, yo, guys, I'm fucking going to rehab.
Speaker 1: And I had already been like telling some some drug stories.
Speaker 2: You were already kind of like doing your thing on YouTube, Yeah,
Speaker 2: to whatever level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I d I had like seven thousand subscribers, six
Speaker 1: or seven thousand, nothing, Yeah, no, I had. I had
Speaker 1: a pretty good amount. And I was just sitting there
Speaker 1: and I was I was tripping. I was like, damn, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going for two months and no videos.
Speaker 1: Like my shit, it's gonna be dead when I get out.
Speaker 1: You know. I was freaking the fuck out, and I
Speaker 1: just started to gain like a little bit of traction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my first couple of thousand, I was like, shit, dude,
Speaker 1: like this is it? You know. And I went into rehab.
Speaker 1: I had like seven thousand. I remember while I was
Speaker 1: in rehab, one of us got access to a computer
Speaker 1: and the first thing I was like, yo, fucking go on,
Speaker 1: let me see where I'm at, let me see this shit.
Speaker 1: I was at like thirteen thousand. I didn't even do nothing.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck happened? But rehab video blew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of my videos popped the fuck off and it
Speaker 1: got like, you know, like ten thousand, fifteen thousand views,
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, like this is it, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I've never even broken ten kviews before. Give me
Speaker 1: the fuck out of this pussy as facility. Get me
Speaker 1: out of here now, bro. And I was like that
Speaker 1: gave me that motivation and just suck it up and
Speaker 1: get through. You know. I was like, shit, dude. So
Speaker 1: I got out, I had like thirteen thousand subs. I
Speaker 1: got home and it was like, like, you know, how
Speaker 1: like when rappers get out of jail and they dropped
Speaker 1: the first day out, of course, I dropped my rehab
Speaker 1: videos and I was like, yo, I've been waiting. I've
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Speaker 1: like what is, in my opinion, probably my best videos
Speaker 1: I've ever made. I just did a series where I
Speaker 1: just documented my entire fucking stay in rehab and just
Speaker 1: discussed the whole thing, fucking everything that went down there.
Speaker 1: Were you able to film in rehab?
Speaker 2: No, because you can't have a phone, right, No, it.
Speaker 1: Was just like gameplay story, Oh got you got commentary?
Speaker 2: You're kind of just like playing games telling your story. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do in rehab, read books and
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Speaker 1: leave out this information, this guy's name, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: She's like plotting it out. And I have never in
Speaker 1: my damn life put that much thought into a video.
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Speaker 2: Crazy because you always hear mister Bee's talking about like
Speaker 2: the science to like mm hm, and every video he
Speaker 2: does there's so much thought, yeah, into each one, and
Speaker 2: he's like, yo, like because some people just kind of
Speaker 2: they do videos just because well, I gotta put a
Speaker 2: video out this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's almost like you said, like you gotta that
Speaker 2: probably took you to a whole other level because you
Speaker 2: put that much thought into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'd put that out, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I had already gained some shit while I
Speaker 1: was in rehabit after that, you know, I got out
Speaker 1: and I was also on probation at the time that
Speaker 1: I got out of read you have to test. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was getting pissed tested and it was it was
Speaker 1: actually pretty fucked. So I was smoking a shitload of
Speaker 1: weed before I went in. I got out of rehab
Speaker 1: two months after and I was still pissing dirty. So
Speaker 1: they thought that I really Yeah, yeah, I'm a bigger dude,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody that really stays in me. So it
Speaker 1: took me like three three and a half months to
Speaker 1: piss clean.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, for people who don't know usually they tell
Speaker 2: you two to three weeks.
Speaker 1: That's such bullshit. Bro. It's different for everybody, it really is.
Speaker 1: I know, like then people who have pissed dirty.
Speaker 2: Dude, I used to have to piss in the pill
Speaker 2: bottles for my cousins when they'd go to the fucking PO.
Speaker 2: I had like literally pe and two pill bottles for
Speaker 2: my cousin all the time.
Speaker 1: You're a real one for doing that too. Yeah. We
Speaker 1: always love those homies.
Speaker 2: And then, like I think eventually they just started watching
Speaker 2: you piss and they're like.
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, they're staring right at my knuts. Bro, Like
Speaker 1: when they started selling fake dicks. M hm, yeah, you
Speaker 1: fake dude. So I was trying everything in the fucking
Speaker 1: book just so I could get stuck. You would drink
Speaker 1: the one time, would that tea? Yes? Yes? Gallon? Uh
Speaker 1: huh yeah, dude, you know all that shit is. It's
Speaker 1: literally those little like cleansing drinks that they sell. Bro.
Speaker 1: It's just flavored water and two vitamin B pills to
Speaker 1: make your pissy. That's all it is. There's no ingredients, dude.
Speaker 1: You can just make your own, like yeah, literally, you
Speaker 1: can go get a gatorade and do it at home.
Speaker 1: That's know what I'm saying. Crazy, But I tried all
Speaker 1: that shit. I remember online, Dude, they got these whole
Speaker 1: like waistbands or a fucking cock on it. Shit you
Speaker 1: can get it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Did you get the cock waistband?
Speaker 1: No? No? I. So while I was on rehab, I
Speaker 1: was just doing shit besides getting stone that wouldn't last
Speaker 1: as long in my system. So I was just like
Speaker 1: taking Zan's, you know, do a little bump here and
Speaker 1: there and a little kind of mean. I was just,
Speaker 1: you know, because I had been in rehab for two
Speaker 1: and a half months, it was easier for me to
Speaker 1: like pace myself.
Speaker 2: Were you on colors where it was random?
Speaker 1: Uh no, you knew? I knew. Yeah. They let me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they let my ass know. I was so thankful that
Speaker 1: I wasn't on colors because I had homies that were
Speaker 1: on colors and they were constantly getting sucked over.
Speaker 2: It was just like, hey, surprise, you gotta pee to day?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, constantly. And those motherfuckers weren't quitting, you know,
Speaker 1: they weren't they were gonna stop smoking. None of my
Speaker 1: friends were. So I was like, you know, pretty committed
Speaker 1: to just as long as I don't get stoned. I'll
Speaker 1: be straight, and uh my po ended up liking me
Speaker 1: a lot, and uh I would go in. You know,
Speaker 1: I got no tattoos or nothing. I looked like a
Speaker 1: little bit of what's going on? Yeah, oh hi, how
Speaker 1: are you? Oh I've been great Drew Carey's kid. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And I got and I had a job and everything
Speaker 1: bro I was. I was selling fucking bathtub remodels and
Speaker 1: ship bat remodels. So I went in and I, you know,
Speaker 1: look good on paper. She liked me so much, dude.
Speaker 1: She gave me a five dollars McDonald's gift card. And
Speaker 1: I got off and she she told me, she was like,
Speaker 1: all right, you got two months left on your probation.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to test you anymore. And I thought
Speaker 1: she was fucking I thought she was trying me. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, sure she's gonna yeah, yeah, for sure, okay.
Speaker 1: And I went home and I sat there and I
Speaker 1: thought about it, and I was like, I've waited so
Speaker 1: fucking long, Like I've waited so damn long, and I folded.
Speaker 1: I folded. I went over to my friend's house, took
Speaker 1: one hit off a blunt and it was over with
Speaker 1: and she actually was, like of her words, she never
Speaker 1: ever tested you. Yeah, she actually never tested me.
Speaker 2: That's your PO, man, she's a real one.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's such a that's such a like jo yo.
Speaker 2: I feel like being a probation officer would be such
Speaker 2: a fun gig, yeah, dude, because you could just fuck
Speaker 2: with people all the time because like, their freedom is
Speaker 2: in your hands. It's fucked up that I say it
Speaker 2: that way, but it is kind of the case, and
Speaker 2: you could just call and tweak on somebody like, hey, yo,
Speaker 2: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if one of your if one of your like.
Speaker 2: Like, if you were like like for me, as a
Speaker 2: guy who's like a prankster in a real dickhead, I
Speaker 2: would love to be a PO.
Speaker 1: That would be pretty fun. Yeah, fucking great gig. You
Speaker 1: just show up at someone's crib on it now, it's
Speaker 1: just like, hey, all, mofucker's getting high? What are y'all
Speaker 1: doing here? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Here? Are you violating? Who are you hanging out with?
Speaker 2: No gang members? No associated gang members?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 2: Damn, that's crazy. That would be a sweet gif. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you had to ever be better than being a
Speaker 2: normal cop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's I mean, I feel like for the PO,
Speaker 1: there's just like.
Speaker 2: Your job is to harass people at the PO.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like less danger.
Speaker 2: You know, if I was a normal cop, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: do you ever watch super Troopers?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good. These fucking guys, dude, they just
Speaker 2: fucking those fools are just like fucking with people. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's like an old school like early two thousands
Speaker 2: comedy and these cops just they just fucking fuck with people,
Speaker 2: like they pull people over, they'll go and you ever
Speaker 2: see Supertroopers? Oh my god, it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's missing out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're missing out because it's one
Speaker 2: of those movies that like you kind of had to
Speaker 2: be there. Uh, I'm not sure how it aged. It's
Speaker 2: my mom's favorite comedy, so it's old white ladies enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Mmm. I've been around a lot of that ship.
Speaker 2: You ever watch uh not Reno when went Tacoma Fire
Speaker 2: Department on like True TV?
Speaker 1: I've watched. I probably have because I used to just
Speaker 1: sit there and watch True TV.
Speaker 2: Cha You ever watching Practical Jokers?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, so good. It is. It's so bomb. It's
Speaker 1: so stupid like some of the ship they come up
Speaker 1: with is just like so hilarious.
Speaker 2: I'm so mad that Joe Gatto left.
Speaker 1: He did yeah when two seasons ago, I had no
Speaker 1: fucking idea left man. So they're still doing it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they do like a celebrity pranker.
Speaker 4: Every episod Oh, dude, just run it with three so
Speaker 4: they'll have like post Malone did it, Joey Fatone, who's
Speaker 4: a regular on the show.
Speaker 1: And that's cool, but I feel like they're just doing
Speaker 1: that for it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Dude. Hey, look, I think in practical jokers, like I really,
Speaker 2: I've met everybody. There's like random people that I get
Speaker 2: excited to meet, and those those guys Larry David. I
Speaker 2: already met Joe Rogan. That was cool. But like if
Speaker 2: I met the impractical drugger, dude, I'd be pretty still.
Speaker 1: I would be hype. Yeah, I would be pretty fuck.
Speaker 2: That one dude is pop. Joey's fucking He's popping on TikTok. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's doing his thing on TikTok. He's popped up on
Speaker 2: my feet a few times. Are you being on TikTok? No?
Speaker 1: I get banned for everything I do on that.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, like doing the type of
Speaker 2: content you do, you're you're smartening where you don't do
Speaker 2: that certain shit on camera. But how is your monetization intact?
Speaker 1: I have no AD revenue, so that my main channel
Speaker 1: I did that get yanked. It was like March of
Speaker 1: this year. Oh wow, that's not bad. Yeah. So you
Speaker 1: had a good run, Oh I did. I had a
Speaker 1: great run. It was awesome. Yeah, the AD revenue was
Speaker 1: looking good. Uh and then they uh, they came in
Speaker 1: and they clapped me. And actually, so it's not permanently taken,
Speaker 1: but I know, damn well, I'm never getting it back.
Speaker 1: You have a temporary Yeah, I've reapplied, uh, because I
Speaker 1: have to reapply again if I want to get back
Speaker 1: into it. It's just like a suspension or whatever. But
Speaker 1: the problem is as well, the money they owed me,
Speaker 1: I don't get on less I get reapproved, which kind
Speaker 1: of fucking sucks.
Speaker 2: So so you see the number they owe you, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, you can't even get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was like ode payment for about three weeks,
Speaker 1: you know, three quarters of the month of month of March,
Speaker 1: and they just cut off my monetization, you know, right
Speaker 1: before April and then never paid me for March. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's not as bad as Yola's situation was.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, he told me he had like three
Speaker 1: point one million dollars. Yeah, yeah he does, he does,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. That's yeah. I couldn't, fucking dude, I
Speaker 1: think I would go and say like.
Speaker 2: I would, I would. You know. There's there's this girl
Speaker 2: that went viral. She said that she was she was
Speaker 2: fucking dudes online that worked at Facebook just to try
Speaker 2: I saw that to try to get her ig page back.
Speaker 2: If I'm Yola, I'm I am going to try to
Speaker 2: fuck dudes that work at YouTube.
Speaker 1: Honestly. God. Yeah. Yeah, but Instagram, you don't got to
Speaker 1: do none of that shit that chick was tweaking. It's
Speaker 1: super easy to get your Instagram back nowadays. The system
Speaker 1: is so abusable, dude. I just had it happen the
Speaker 1: other day. I got banned. I was banned for a
Speaker 1: total of two hours. There's there's dudes who you can
Speaker 1: hit up, who can get your Instagram on banned, and
Speaker 1: all they want is to shout out on their telegram.
Speaker 1: That's all they want. The systems so abusable that it's
Speaker 1: like people like they go around and they like try
Speaker 1: to like extort big Instagram people toll be like yo,
Speaker 1: ill fucking mash report your page or else, you know,
Speaker 1: unless you pay me, like pay me fifteen hundred for
Speaker 1: the unbanned. You know. Some dude just did it to
Speaker 1: me the other day. Yeah, some guy, some guy hit
Speaker 1: me up. He was yemming me. He he commented. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, like reply to my dam or no
Speaker 1: more Instagram, you know, And he's one of those kids
Speaker 1: who like you can just tell by their type of profiles. Bro, Like, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't profile people often, but you could fucking you
Speaker 1: could tell the people who are going to get your
Speaker 1: Instagram to let and just go to their account and
Speaker 1: look at them. What they do is they have bot
Speaker 1: accounts pretty much. Yeah, they mass report you for like
Speaker 1: fake identity. It's always an identity related thing. So they
Speaker 1: and that's pretty easy to clear up. Uh yeah, well
Speaker 1: not if you have to get one of those people
Speaker 1: who can do it to undo it. Right. So there's
Speaker 1: good actors and bad actors in this space of people
Speaker 1: who abuse Instagram shitty system.
Speaker 2: Is this on the dark web? You're finding these folks?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, they're just like on Instagram, bro, the people.
Speaker 2: Who get them back. Yeah, those people are on ig yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: how kracking is your Telegram?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have like my own page or anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't do anything on there. I
Speaker 1: just is that that?
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the new dark Web in terms
Speaker 2: of like buying drugs?
Speaker 1: I mean before people were buying shit off telegram, they
Speaker 1: were hitting people up on snapchats. They thought it was
Speaker 1: gone forever, you know, but it's not before snapchat, you know.
Speaker 2: Even what's that being gone forever now it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it's not before fucking Snapchat. People were
Speaker 1: messaging on Kick and shit, oh Kick was back in
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, way back in the day Kick. I
Speaker 1: thought about Kick. So it's always been just like whatever
Speaker 1: platform people perceive is the most secure. Wells the other
Speaker 1: one's signal signal. Yep, that's a fairly big one. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's it's different. Dark web is
Speaker 1: super different than just like a telegram trap.
Speaker 2: Dark web still popping, but it's.
Speaker 1: It's just sketchy now. Like the problem is these websites.
Speaker 1: There's like a new website every like three months and
Speaker 1: they come in, get a bunch of money, shut down,
Speaker 1: and it's just a gamble of can you buy at
Speaker 1: the right time so you don't get shipped on, you know,
Speaker 1: so your money doesn't get Yeah, so your money doesn't
Speaker 1: get taken because like the Feds are on this ship now,
Speaker 1: you know, they understand what it is. They know how
Speaker 1: to like find these people. I remember.
Speaker 2: Three four years ago, we're at the radio station and
Speaker 2: me and my boy DJ Damage we were watching like
Speaker 2: this dark Web documentary on Vice during our show. We
Speaker 2: had to ship on the TV and fuck it, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna download the fucking browser. What's the browser called tour Yeah,
Speaker 2: whatever fucking call, Like download the browser and we go
Speaker 2: on like whatever. Like we went on one of the websites.
Speaker 2: It's almost like Amazon, but like for like whatever you want,
Speaker 2: you know, we're just scrolling. I'm like, this shit is crazy.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's actually insane.
Speaker 2: Like whatever you want, you can on the site. If
Speaker 2: you if you're a rapper and you want Spotify plays, yep,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They have that ship.
Speaker 2: Like if you want to fucking AK forty seven or something,
Speaker 2: if you want how sketch is that because you Okay,
Speaker 2: so when you're buying ship on the dark Web, you
Speaker 2: have to send crypto correct, So you send the crypto
Speaker 2: and then it's in God's hands at that point.
Speaker 1: So what happens is essentially how most sites work, is
Speaker 1: you deposit your crypto on there, you know, so you
Speaker 1: have like a wallet.
Speaker 2: People have reviews.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people, there's full reviews, profile seller profiles, bro I
Speaker 1: was reading the Yeah, yes, it's literally like Amazon for
Speaker 1: illegal shit. It's Amazon for illegal shit. It's it's like,
Speaker 1: imagine just think of like the black market online. That's
Speaker 1: literally what this is. Like. It's exactly what you could imagine,
Speaker 1: like if as someone who you know, maybe there's someone
Speaker 1: out there has never been on it, Like, it's probably
Speaker 1: exactly what the fucking picture. It's just fucking drugs, stolen
Speaker 1: credit cards, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can, oh my god, and you can buy
Speaker 2: fake money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fake counterfeit money, everything, broke gun parts and ship
Speaker 1: like everything you want.
Speaker 2: So the dark Way, I was so close to being like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy it two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Dude, if I could get so my friends get My
Speaker 1: friends used to do that in high school all the
Speaker 1: fucking time.
Speaker 2: They'd buy it off the dark web.
Speaker 1: Yes, they would buy. They buy like fake bills, and
Speaker 1: you could buy them at a pretty good rate. You know.
Speaker 1: It'd be like twenty bucks for one hundred bucks, you
Speaker 1: know type shit, so you could get.
Speaker 2: How was the money you'd ever see it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bro, My friends are right around with fucking
Speaker 1: like stacks and half of it be real and like
Speaker 1: half of it be fake, and they'd be selling weed
Speaker 1: and they'd be finessing people like yo, throw a couple. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but a lot of them were really bullshit because, like.
Speaker 2: You could tell holding the money.
Speaker 1: Once you touched it, it's over. Like maybe from Afar,
Speaker 1: you're good, but if a marker touches that shit, it's over.
Speaker 1: If you touch it, it's over, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing about money is it has that it's
Speaker 2: that paper.
Speaker 1: It's that paper. You can't replicate it. You can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it's no matter what. You could beat
Speaker 2: the ship out of the eye. That's why I was like,
Speaker 2: not fuck that. I was just like, I want to
Speaker 2: order something off the dark I never did, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I definitely I definitely was surfing and that shit was gnarly.
Speaker 2: We were at the we.
Speaker 1: Were doing that shit on the iHeartRadio Wi Fi.
Speaker 2: We're just like, I think for like an hour DJ damage,
Speaker 2: We're just like, bro, what do they got? What? What?
Speaker 2: Like you could literally buy someone's whole credit card.
Speaker 1: Shit, Oh yeah, if you want a security faith, if.
Speaker 2: You want to scam, they got all the equipment to
Speaker 2: scam all.
Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy. You could buy a fake identity on there,
Speaker 1: like I've seen so I of course I've spent so
Speaker 1: much time just browsing those sites. You know, I would
Speaker 1: go on so there was certain forums on there that
Speaker 1: you could go on and see listings of like new sites,
Speaker 1: and people would review these sites like, well, I give
Speaker 1: this site a trust factor rating of six out of ten,
Speaker 1: seven out of ten. It's not that trustworthy. The owners
Speaker 1: are these people, they haven't been established that long, you know,
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing. And you go on these
Speaker 1: sites and you just look around. Dude, there's like full
Speaker 1: identities you can buy, like ID passport, social like like
Speaker 1: an actual yeah, like dead people. So it's like the
Speaker 1: advertised are like, yeah, like these people are fucking dead.
Speaker 1: Like you're good because you don't want to buy like
Speaker 1: a live person's like if you're trying to like use
Speaker 1: a fake identity you don't want to buy, like, you know,
Speaker 1: a live person. So I remember reading one one time
Speaker 1: where it was like a description like you can get
Speaker 1: like a dead person's one. Just hit me up, you know,
Speaker 1: like write a message, you know, And I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be a bad idea if victimless crime, and it's not
Speaker 2: a bad idea to just have a backup identity, honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 2: if shit goes hey, you could buy worse ship.
Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent. I wish I had a backup identity.
Speaker 1: I wish I could just.
Speaker 2: Dick victimless crime. They're dead gone and then you're like,
Speaker 2: you know what, shit goes left, I'm this other guy.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something to think about, Cyrus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, backup identity would be gas.
Speaker 2: Avoid tax. Oh that's the that's really the play.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: You get all the payments to the to the dead guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're gonna catch on pretty quick then when
Speaker 1: you're filing taxes for a dead guy.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I guess you're right.
Speaker 1: But would they though, like with the I R S, Like,
Speaker 1: like how would they know if the dude's dead?
Speaker 2: That's the it's just I'll probably just situation a situation
Speaker 2: with the dead person.
Speaker 1: Damn fuck. So you mean maybe you need to get
Speaker 1: someone who's been dead for a little longer, so the
Speaker 1: IRSs And remember that I.
Speaker 2: Would just be scared buying shit. Were you scared the
Speaker 2: cops are coming? Oh?
Speaker 1: Bro? Every time, Bro, it felt like I was in
Speaker 1: a movie, like walking outside of my house, like looking around, like.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to get here.
Speaker 1: Bro. I remember the first time I ever got anything
Speaker 1: in the mail. It felt like the day of it,
Speaker 1: the day was supposed to come. I was so scared
Speaker 1: all day. I think the first thing I bought was
Speaker 1: just weed. I'm pretty sure I mostly just bought weed
Speaker 1: off the deep web. Yeah, bro gas back in high school,
Speaker 1: I mean the the people who would sell us fucking
Speaker 1: kids weed like we're finessa. I have a friend who
Speaker 1: is facing.
Speaker 2: Serious prison time. He got caught up a dark web
Speaker 2: fetnahl ring.
Speaker 1: Oh that's bad.
Speaker 2: He is going away for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really fucking bad.
Speaker 2: And it was like he was already on probation for
Speaker 2: work for coke and I'm like, dog, you're I had
Speaker 2: no idea this guy was doing this ship, I thought
Speaker 2: because he was a rapper, yep, my boy man. I hope,
Speaker 2: I hope everything works out for him. But he was
Speaker 2: an artist and like someone I was real close with,
Speaker 2: and I always thought he was just just moving packs,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Packs, you know, yeah, just a little a little something.
Speaker 2: Serious fetanol, which is a serious thing that anna fucking
Speaker 2: put you away for life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. They don't play with that ship right now,
Speaker 1: I mean and rightfully.
Speaker 2: So it's a very person who are literally dying all
Speaker 2: over the place.
Speaker 1: And you know, like as much as also like I
Speaker 1: have sympathy for your friend, and so at the same time,
Speaker 1: fanel dealers like.
Speaker 2: It's it's bad. It is it is, honestly, like it's
Speaker 2: that dude, you're dealing death, low.
Speaker 1: Key literally yeah, and you know that ship and.
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, like it is crazy because it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, if someone sells weed, I get it, even
Speaker 2: if you're selling crack whatever, But that fentyl is different. Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just straight that's murdered, dude killing.
Speaker 2: Especially, I'm sure, and Illinois is probably crazy with that, huh.
Speaker 2: I feel like middle of the country is just fucked
Speaker 2: when it comes to like over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's I have a lot of friends from
Speaker 1: high school who ended up graduating and doing heroin and shit,
Speaker 1: And it was just like that progression of you know,
Speaker 1: first everyone's taking oxy, he's taking the hydros. Then they
Speaker 1: graduated to, oh, we're just snorting heroin, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not fucking shooting it up. Then it's like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: only shooting it up on weekends, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Heroin's more efficient, like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like the the amount of it you need to get
Speaker 1: super fucked is far less, and then after that you
Speaker 1: graduate defent. Some people don't go to the heroin part now,
Speaker 1: especially nowadays, because half these pills are just fent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, realized that they already have, Like the
Speaker 1: heroin now is all fentanyl. Good luck finding real heroin
Speaker 1: on the street nowadays. You know, i'd imagine fucking probably
Speaker 1: ninety percent of that shit it's just fent now.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, dude, it's crazy too, because recently I had
Speaker 2: hooked my boy up with another boy of mine who
Speaker 2: you know, deals, and we were in my hometown. He
Speaker 2: bought he didn't buy much, he bought like a gram nothing,
Speaker 2: and he did it. We went to my club. The
Speaker 2: next day, he's like, ya, I forgot I had a
Speaker 2: kit in my suitcase and he's like, bro, that shit
Speaker 2: was positive for fentanyl. And I did a bunch last night,
Speaker 2: oh god, And I was like, fuck, are you good?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: But I think it's every It feels like everything has
Speaker 2: some trace of that ship in it.
Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, I mean a lot of these dudes making
Speaker 1: these uh you know, these drugs and shit, they don't
Speaker 1: clean their equipment, you know, and like it don't fucking matter.
Speaker 2: I just saw recently there's weed fentanyl lace weed, which
Speaker 2: is very strange.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd be so fucking pissed if someone served me
Speaker 1: some fent.
Speaker 2: Would have you heard about that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Actually, yes, dude, I just saw this. There's like they
Speaker 2: found like weed that tested positive for fentanyl. I don't
Speaker 2: even know where was it at, dude, what not? In Cali?
Speaker 2: It was in the middle of the country. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: how the fuck does that even make sense? What do you, like,
Speaker 2: how does that happen?
Speaker 1: Damn? That would be I imagine just like trying to
Speaker 1: smoke some weed and you end up doing fent. Like
Speaker 1: that's so fucked up.
Speaker 2: When did you get uh super into psychedelics.
Speaker 1: Probably right after I got to alternative school, so I was, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I was sixteen going on seventeen. Pretty much
Speaker 1: from seventeen onwards is when I was really super into
Speaker 1: you know, at first it was acid. I didn't like
Speaker 1: shrooms when I was younger. The first time I took shrooms,
Speaker 1: I did like three and a half four grams, and
Speaker 1: I was I was not ready. I was not ready
Speaker 1: first time. Yeah, yeah, so I was my friend, my
Speaker 1: buddy Ashton.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's ready for that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a huge dose. I haven't taken that
Speaker 1: big of a dose since man.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, fuck yeah, you fucking signed up for fucking
Speaker 2: to talk with God that night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like two two and a half is my you know,
Speaker 1: chill zone. So that was your first That was my
Speaker 1: first ever time doing shrooms. I was, I was super nauseous,
Speaker 1: and I ended up like laying in the lawn of
Speaker 1: some random person's house for a little bit to like
Speaker 1: chill out, kind of the same thing I did off
Speaker 1: the Triple C's, you know, yeah, crash out on lawns
Speaker 1: a couple of times. But I crashed out on the
Speaker 1: lawn and my homies were like, yeo, in the car,
Speaker 1: Get in the car like this, this is not our crib, Like,
Speaker 1: get in the car, you know, and like the lights
Speaker 1: were turning on on the porch of the house and
Speaker 1: ship and I got back in the car. And then
Speaker 1: the problem is I took this dose and we had
Speaker 1: nothing to do. We were just driving around. So like
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the back of my mom's fucking Honda
Speaker 1: cr V that she let me borrow for the night,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Damn yeah, shots her mom. She had to be real one.
Speaker 1: Real one, real one. Yeah. My mom was the homie.
Speaker 2: Yep. She's like, I know my kid has a mild
Speaker 2: drug problem. Take go ahead and take the CRV with
Speaker 2: your boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I honestly, I look back at it, like if
Speaker 1: I was hurt, I would my kid would not even
Speaker 1: touch the door handle of my car.
Speaker 2: You don't even know what.
Speaker 1: You can't even go in the garage. Like we used
Speaker 1: to take my mom's car and.
Speaker 2: Egg people.
Speaker 1: Oh oh fuck yeah, dude, fuck yeah. There was this
Speaker 1: one chick that one of my friends insisted that we
Speaker 1: egged like all the time, dude.
Speaker 2: We used to like four times b We used to
Speaker 2: egg people walking down the street, like every other weekend,
Speaker 2: me and my cousin Matt. I was like thirteen, he
Speaker 2: was sixteen with his license, and it was like a
Speaker 2: car of us and bro. There's this street in Phoenix
Speaker 2: called Van Buren where all the prostitutes used to be.
Speaker 2: We used to a funk out of the pros and
Speaker 2: then like one time we got chased by a pimp
Speaker 2: and escalade. We thought we're gonna die. We did not die.
Speaker 2: We and then we'd stop we were fucked up. We'd
Speaker 2: have a squirt gun m h filled with like I
Speaker 2: forget what we used to oh, like soapy water, and
Speaker 2: like the hookers would come up and we just light
Speaker 2: them up. I was terrible, just the kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Was No, I've done shit like that before too. Not
Speaker 1: to hookers though, because you know, in Chicago they're in
Speaker 1: the real rough parts of town I don't want to
Speaker 1: drive through. But out here they're pretty plentiful prostitutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's a street called Big.
Speaker 1: I see a fucking oh yeah, yeah Fig.
Speaker 2: There's a guy who uh flies his drone all over
Speaker 2: Fig and like gets right up on the prostitutes.
Speaker 1: I actually I think I watched like a clip of
Speaker 1: that on Twitter. Earlier.
Speaker 2: Definitely did. That's it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one if them like threw some shit at it.
Speaker 2: And then his whole goal is to find each hooker
Speaker 2: on Instagram, and he finds him and then tags him damn.
Speaker 1: That's next level.
Speaker 2: So he'll post the video of the girl and be
Speaker 2: like if you know her, I g tagget damn, and
Speaker 2: then like they like you'll click on it be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is this bitch's page. Like this chick is selling
Speaker 2: her pussy on fig is like also on the gram
Speaker 2: selling her pussy.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely. I mean, I feel like Los Angeles
Speaker 2: gotta be a big prostitute place. You have to have.
Speaker 1: It's just tons of people here.
Speaker 2: A lot of people try to make it as actresses.
Speaker 2: Got to get their money somehow. Oh yeah are you
Speaker 2: and I saw you said you were in a relationship.
Speaker 2: Are you still in that relationship?
Speaker 1: I damn. Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is with somebody whom which you met through your channel. Yes,
Speaker 2: actually want a contest?
Speaker 1: No, No, what ended up happening was it was someone
Speaker 1: who just like better my twitch chat a lot. I
Speaker 1: didn't know it was like a girl or anything, but
Speaker 1: I have this thing in my chat where you can
Speaker 1: like like redeem points for a follow, and she redeemed
Speaker 1: one and follow. I followed on Twitter and I was like,
Speaker 1: I you know, hit at m oh, you're a girl.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like she had her agent, her bio. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know how you doing. Yeah, we've been dating for
Speaker 1: like a couple of years.
Speaker 2: So she moved out here with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's been pretty chill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely. You know, I wonder what the like.
Speaker 2: You know, there's groupies for hip hop artists, there's groups
Speaker 2: for athletes. I always wonder, like, for you, do you
Speaker 2: have to deal with like a weird type of fan
Speaker 2: that like sends you random dms?
Speaker 1: Not really. I've had like like.
Speaker 2: Some like big fat show with her controller in her
Speaker 2: hand and a bag of Cheetos and she's like, God
Speaker 2: that I play with my pussy every night to your voice.
Speaker 1: Thankfully. No. But I mean I've definitely had some weird
Speaker 1: fan encounters, but nothing, nothing like.
Speaker 2: Nothing over the top.
Speaker 1: No, no, nothing like that at all. Got a little
Speaker 1: ash on the table again.
Speaker 2: You're fine, You're fine. Yeah, it's it's it's it sexy
Speaker 2: Red's asshole was on this table.
Speaker 1: Oh damn. Okay, Ski what part of it?
Speaker 2: She was doing all kinds of photoshopping, d photo shoot, dancing. Actually,
Speaker 2: I think the table has been did we repaint it?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, krashaan rock.
Speaker 1: She carved into the table and we h we sanded
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Speaker 1: couple episodes of of this before I came here. I
Speaker 1: watched the Yolo one and I watched the Blue Face
Speaker 1: and uh, his baby Mama Yeah Jaden Jane Lexis whatever,
Speaker 1: I think that's her name. Yeah, it's quite an episode.
Speaker 2: That was. That was quite the episode. Uh huh. You know,
Speaker 2: I think, like I always I just feel like when
Speaker 2: I see like Blueface and his baby Mama's like, damn man,
Speaker 2: you know, she could always be worse.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: If I think me and Micro are like fighting too much,
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that's.
Speaker 1: A good one.
Speaker 2: At least we're not like shitting on each other on
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Speaker 1: Oh it's brutal.
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Speaker 2: back to the interview. You obviously also as equally as
Speaker 2: an avid drug user as you've been over the years,
Speaker 2: you're an avid gamer, what are your like? Well, what
Speaker 2: was the game you first started playing?
Speaker 1: Online?
Speaker 2: Like where people could watch a.
Speaker 1: Lot of Call of Duty? Mean, like okay, it was
Speaker 1: like all day just Call of Duty. I played a
Speaker 1: lot of that shit. I know how I got my
Speaker 1: first like following on Call of Duty because back in
Speaker 1: the day when they had all those like big Call
Speaker 1: Duty clans on YouTube kind of like how you know
Speaker 1: a face clan is now, I was in one that
Speaker 1: was way smaller than that, but I was in one
Speaker 1: they had like they had a pretty good amount of
Speaker 1: subs back then. They had like I think three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand on the channel. So it was great. It was banging,
Speaker 1: and I joined that. I got a couple like videos
Speaker 1: on there because they were post videos from the different
Speaker 1: people in there. So I got a couple of videos
Speaker 1: on there, I got a couple of thousand subs, and
Speaker 1: I dipped out and I was like, yeah, I'm posting
Speaker 1: my shit.
Speaker 2: Now, that's sick. So Call of Duty was the wave.
Speaker 1: Yep, Call of Duty was the wave.
Speaker 2: Do you ever do fucking Fortnite?
Speaker 1: I like you no, But you know what, I have
Speaker 1: a lot of good friends who came up like super
Speaker 1: hard off Fortnite.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just used to play a shoot with my kid,
Speaker 2: and I was such a pussy. I would just hide
Speaker 2: out and.
Speaker 1: Me too, dude, I just build a fucking crib and
Speaker 1: like sit in there.
Speaker 2: I would just go to the top of the treehouse.
Speaker 2: I would just wait and hope no one else try
Speaker 2: to come up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna camp and snipe motherfuckers exactly what
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I said, would be like, you're fucking nube, Like, bro,
Speaker 2: fuck you, what's that meaning?
Speaker 1: That's why I stopped playing. Dude. Everyone builds those big
Speaker 1: ass bases so fast, and I can't. I can't build
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: It also feels like the gamer world is like, obviously,
Speaker 2: you have your own thing you're doing, but that whole
Speaker 2: YouTube gamer world feels fucking kind of like douchey. It's
Speaker 2: gotten to the point where it was like cool to
Speaker 2: where it's like a lot of those dudes come off
Speaker 2: like fucking douchebags.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I you know, being in like
Speaker 1: the cod Clans back in the day. I remember I
Speaker 1: went to back in like twenty eighteen. I went to
Speaker 1: this event called Packs and it's like this, you know,
Speaker 1: they Highlight a bunch of games and shit right, and
Speaker 1: a bunch of my like other friends who did YouTube
Speaker 1: videos also went out there. We all flew out there
Speaker 1: and I met like a bunch of these dudes and
Speaker 1: one of the people, a couple of the people that
Speaker 1: I met were like just super interesting and they had
Speaker 1: like a ton of like followers and subs at the time,
Speaker 1: you know, and hell of Us. But you know, the
Speaker 1: thing with gaming YouTube is it's really tough to stay
Speaker 1: relevant across multiple games. You know, like a lot of
Speaker 1: these dudes that came up off one of the Call
Speaker 1: of Duty's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you watch that, you watch them for that game.
Speaker 1: Almost yeah, like I knew who they were, you know,
Speaker 1: we were in the same plan. But also like people
Speaker 1: were watching them for that game, and as the next
Speaker 1: game came out, you know, a couple less people watch,
Speaker 1: you know, and then.
Speaker 2: A new version of Call of Duty.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know, oh shit, okay, yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of people like just changes up every year every COD.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it does. It's almost like like
Speaker 1: the Hunger Games every year, you know, like who's gonna
Speaker 1: get hell of Us? New COD came out, Who's gonna
Speaker 1: shit the bed? Get no views.
Speaker 2: You know, I got to the point where I felt
Speaker 2: like I was just too late to get good because
Speaker 2: I would get on and I would just be like,
Speaker 2: I'm so trash now, bro, I just I feel like
Speaker 2: I took like a two year break from playing that shit,
Speaker 2: and then I got on and I just yeah, I
Speaker 2: was just like, dude, I don't even like what am
Speaker 2: I doing here? I'm just running around for five seconds
Speaker 2: before someone blows my fucking head off.
Speaker 1: Yep, Jesus Christ, it's not even fun.
Speaker 2: I play Madden.
Speaker 1: Oh, Madden's tough, though.
Speaker 2: Two K Madden and the w w sh It's.
Speaker 1: Fire ww is fun fun fuck around on I mean,
Speaker 1: do you do you like spend a lot of money
Speaker 1: on VCU?
Speaker 2: Do you know? So I'm I'm bored.
Speaker 1: I'm a bored.
Speaker 2: I'm a old school two K player. My kids on
Speaker 2: that ship, they got their little guys. They run around
Speaker 2: and play with each other, and I just play franchise mode.
Speaker 1: Bro, that's good.
Speaker 2: I go old school. No Internet needed, see.
Speaker 1: I play career because I like to fuck around on
Speaker 1: two K. I heard it's fun, like my kids will
Speaker 1: like it's whole world. It is, But I don't really
Speaker 1: give a shit about the world. The only reason I
Speaker 1: even play that ship is because I'll make like a
Speaker 1: like a on the computer. You can mod the game, right,
Speaker 1: I've heard, so you can make like super fucked up characters.
Speaker 1: You can make a dude who's like four foot eight,
Speaker 1: you know, and have be like a you know, like
Speaker 1: a shooting guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just running around with a weird midget.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just like some fucked up dude you like
Speaker 1: can't dunk, but his only stats are like, you know,
Speaker 1: close shooting and like layups and shit. You know, that's great,
Speaker 1: It's just fun to fuck around. That's the only thing
Speaker 1: I did. But now it's like the career mode, like
Speaker 1: you have to spend money to have to get good
Speaker 1: and do anything.
Speaker 2: And then the new ship they're doing like if you
Speaker 2: quit during a game, like too many times, they ban you.
Speaker 1: M yep, I hate that shit. I a should be
Speaker 1: able to quit whenever the hell I want. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: give the guy the win and then he's how it's
Speaker 1: always been. Why would they change it? Like that's how
Speaker 1: it's always always been. Either given the win or they
Speaker 1: just cancel out the game for you.
Speaker 2: Losing monetization on your YouTube channel is a big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, heartbreaking, it was. Yeah, it was tough. You know,
Speaker 1: for a while I had my monetization and luckily my
Speaker 1: second channel still has it.
Speaker 2: But so you just moving a lot of your sh
Speaker 2: to that channel.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't really been posting shit on there, honestly.
Speaker 1: I just keep posting on the main you know, because
Speaker 1: I like posting there.
Speaker 2: It's just crazy because like I wonder, you know, I
Speaker 2: just saw somebody got likes. What was that? What's that
Speaker 2: douchebag's name? Foozie?
Speaker 1: Oh foozy?
Speaker 2: He got the the I don't want call him dude.
Speaker 2: I don't know him. To call him a douchebag is
Speaker 2: just based on what I see online. He you know,
Speaker 2: he might be a nice guy, but I saw his
Speaker 2: his page got demonetized or no, Fresh and Fits page
Speaker 2: got de monetized, and they cried on YouTube, they cried
Speaker 2: on their stream.
Speaker 1: That did it work? Did they get a bag?
Speaker 2: No? But I'm curious how much do you pivot because
Speaker 2: you already have like a big brand, But how do
Speaker 2: you pivot like the business model? Are you doing anything
Speaker 2: different to try to make up for that money?
Speaker 1: I mean, my business model hasn't really changed at all,
Speaker 1: you know, I sell merch, you know, I stream you
Speaker 1: got your merch dream, a lot of collab like Grinder drops,
Speaker 1: my friend's grinder company. We also, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: do sponsor content, you know, fairly often. There's a good
Speaker 1: amount of weed brands out there and they.
Speaker 2: Cut to check.
Speaker 1: Yeah you should.
Speaker 2: Is it kind of like you're doing, you know, Dave
Speaker 2: Portnoy's one bite Pizza review. You do that for the
Speaker 2: weed shit pretty much?
Speaker 1: Pretty much. Yeah, but it's not like all of it,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the companies. You know, I just
Speaker 1: buy the weed to smoke the shit, you know, but
Speaker 1: then also you know, sprinkle a little sponsored content. It's
Speaker 1: it's not so bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but I mean I got assume. Bro,
Speaker 2: You're like, that's a big hit to your pockets.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. You know, I was
Speaker 1: making a good amount off monetization. But you know, I
Speaker 1: also make enough where I live comfortably.
Speaker 2: It's smart that you're like, you know, I tell that
Speaker 2: to anybody who does YouTube.
Speaker 1: You never know, Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: So it's like you got to build up the other
Speaker 2: revenue path streams because if not, at any given time,
Speaker 2: the rug can get pulled from under.
Speaker 1: You yep, And that's that's what happened to me. And
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough that it happened at a time
Speaker 1: where I already had the other avenues built, so it
Speaker 1: was something we're like, damn. I was pissed off first
Speaker 1: couple of months, but I didn't really have to like
Speaker 1: adjust my lifestyle or anything.
Speaker 2: Is Twitch as big or bigger of an earner for
Speaker 2: you than YouTube?
Speaker 1: Was? Not? Not as big. Twitch is a side thing,
Speaker 1: but when I combine it with the sponsor money and
Speaker 1: then you know, the merchant, it adds up to enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Twitch sh it is like I heard that. They're
Speaker 2: very like they take a big chunk.
Speaker 1: Right they do? Yeah? Stream one kick now too?
Speaker 2: Oh kick kicks the new ship. It's like the Twitch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See. I like Kick because they gave me the username Goblin.
Speaker 1: So they're the only platform to ever do that.
Speaker 2: Did they pay you for the No, you know they've
Speaker 2: they've heard they could cut some checks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. But I don't really stream enough
Speaker 1: right now. I'm more focused on other stuff. I do
Speaker 1: a podcast, Pine Park. They're also like a weed brand
Speaker 1: that's and dispensaries. I'm part owner of that.
Speaker 2: So oh you're fucking great. Yep. So how many shelves
Speaker 2: are you guys on.
Speaker 1: We're on shelves in Michigan, Oklahoma, and California.
Speaker 2: That's sick, dude. Yeah, congratulations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's looking good. Indoor. Good What was that indoor? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good. Shit, it's good. Ship. The shit out here
Speaker 1: especially is yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, it is interesting because like people don't like
Speaker 2: understand like if you get cookies, yes you did. If
Speaker 2: you get cookies like in Cali at a dispensary and
Speaker 2: then you go get it in Oklahoma, it's not the
Speaker 2: same weed. People don't understand that because I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 2: the fucking cookie shit and so and so sucks. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, because it's the grower who licensed the fucking
Speaker 2: brand there, you know what I'm saying, Like who's doing
Speaker 2: the distro, who's doing the growing? Like would you ever
Speaker 2: get involved in any of the psilocybin side of things?
Speaker 1: Man? You know a lot of people are getting involved
Speaker 1: in it, but I feel like it's just it's sketchy man, Like,
Speaker 1: like when are they going to clap down on that ship?
Speaker 1: It's coming at some point? Well, I think in Cali
Speaker 1: it's always it's moving towards legalization. I think it is
Speaker 1: for for therapeustic I don't know enough about California like
Speaker 1: laws and what's going on.
Speaker 2: Here therapeutic purposes, at least, because they've already done that
Speaker 2: in Oregon. I think you can go and see a
Speaker 2: psychiatrist and do psilocybin therapy. But I think out here Oakland,
Speaker 2: San Francisco, I think that's it. It's fully decriminalized, and
Speaker 2: I just feel like it's gotta come Cali. Cali's liberal
Speaker 2: as fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it is all this tax.
Speaker 2: Money I'm paying these cunts. They can't at least legalize shrooms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us something fun, are you?
Speaker 2: Because you know what I fucking hate. I love eating shrooms.
Speaker 2: I fucking hate eating weed though, yes, eating weed is
Speaker 2: the worst shit ever. Who the fuck is that?
Speaker 1: Zep?
Speaker 2: I heard Goblin?
Speaker 1: The goblin man? What's going on? Man? It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a pleasure to meet you here, pleasure man, pleasure to
Speaker 1: meet you. Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Boole keV Show.
Speaker 1: I'm here in the next room recording my album. I
Speaker 1: came here to ask keV, where's the marijuana? Here?
Speaker 2: You go? Well, thank you, take the whole box.
Speaker 1: Thank you keep doing it. Hell yeah, thank you, Bromm.
Speaker 2: That's one of the hottest rivers in the world right there,
Speaker 2: just walking in taking the week.
Speaker 1: Let's go get the weed inside news. One of the
Speaker 1: biggest in the game is about to come at another
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna come talk to you soon, shout out to
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Speaker 2: from Simba just took the King Palms box. But no,
Speaker 2: I was asking you about eating weed because I fucking
Speaker 2: think it's like the worst, like edibles. I hate edibles. Dude,
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I fucking throw up, I hallucinate.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die every time.
Speaker 1: I got a really high edible tolerance. It's just kind
Speaker 1: of how I've always been.
Speaker 2: So you can, you can hang.
Speaker 1: So I've done. I did a couple pretty crazy ones
Speaker 1: on stream. I did a like, like a four thousand,
Speaker 1: two hundred milligram on stream for four to twenty four thousand,
Speaker 1: two hundred milligrams edibles. I was high for like two days.
Speaker 1: I was tripping. What happened, So how it kind of
Speaker 1: played out is I planned for four twenty a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. I was like, yo, I'm gonna go nothing.
Speaker 2: By the way, a four hundred and twenty milligram edible
Speaker 2: would have been excessive, yeap, So you plan this out?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was like I was big into taking an
Speaker 1: Rso at the time, are you familiar? Yeah?
Speaker 2: My dad does. Yeah, the drops right.
Speaker 1: Love it, love it, bro, It's great.
Speaker 2: Dad does.
Speaker 1: You can put it on whatever, fucking you know, you
Speaker 1: can put it on like a cracker and just eat it.
Speaker 1: You know, you can do whatever. So I had these
Speaker 1: like cookies and I just squared a gram on each
Speaker 1: one and just ate that shit. And it was like
Speaker 1: about eighty percent seeing each once. It was eight hundred
Speaker 1: milligrams each, so came out to forty two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty five of them.
Speaker 2: So how did you feel?
Speaker 1: Man? No, it was like four k yeah, four K now,
Speaker 1: forty two hundred were you like like on the on
Speaker 1: I feel like I So the first time it was
Speaker 1: kind of interesting because the first day I wasn't like
Speaker 1: that out of my mind, Like I was kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm really fucking high. You know. My body just felt ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I felt super heavy, I felt slump, but in my head.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I can kind of think right now,
Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not that high, I feel like.
Speaker 1: But I went to bed that night and the next
Speaker 1: day I woke up way fucking higher than I was
Speaker 1: the day before. And I was sitting there and I
Speaker 1: was just like, dude, like I was on FaceTime and
Speaker 1: I was I was like slurring my words and shit,
Speaker 1: like I couldn't talk normally, and I was just like
Speaker 1: I felt so stupid, like you know when you wake
Speaker 1: up super hungover and you're just sitting there like.
Speaker 2: What did I do?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like wow, I feel like twenty IQ right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why did I even do this? It wasn't huh yeah,
Speaker 2: uh huh. It never was worth it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I I just felt dumb as fuck and
Speaker 1: I was sitting there like I couldn't function all day
Speaker 1: and I was just like damn, like I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: I didn't fucking tweet on a stream, I didn't post nothing,
Speaker 1: and I was just sitting on the couch downstairs playing
Speaker 1: Xbox and just losing every game I played, just getting
Speaker 1: fucking clapped.
Speaker 2: I couldn't hang. That's so much weed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, I don't really take that crazy
Speaker 1: vetible doses anymore. I've slowed down on it because, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's just not fun. There was a period where I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to like test my limits, be like okay,
Speaker 1: it's now far can I go? And I found my limits,
Speaker 1: you know. And if you smoke, at least you could
Speaker 1: eat that shit off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can just
Speaker 1: chill out, you know, drink some water, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Snack you can't do anything. No, you're done, you get
Speaker 1: through it, They're done, Go to the fuck to bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always, dude, I've had the most psychedelic experience
Speaker 2: of my life off of weed eating it, though, like
Speaker 2: more than I've had a lot of shrooms, you know,
Speaker 2: I've aten a lot of shrooms at once. The most
Speaker 2: psychedelic experience of my life is eating marijuana, which I
Speaker 2: just can't do it, man. I try to do it
Speaker 2: again recently. I think I ate like twenty five milligrams
Speaker 2: and I was fucking on my couch, fucked up. Bro.
Speaker 1: The edibles are just different, man. It's nothing like smoking.
Speaker 2: There's nothing like you take dabs, you know, I've I've
Speaker 2: dabbed before. I'm not a big dabber. He's the dabber.
Speaker 2: This guy's got the science where he he times, so
Speaker 2: you light the nail right and then he times. What
Speaker 2: is it you do?
Speaker 1: You gotta have the temperature him. When it's too hot,
Speaker 1: it'll fuck your lungs up, right exactly.
Speaker 2: I dabbed with Action Bronson once and this was early
Speaker 2: on the first time I ever dab was with him,
Speaker 2: And this was early in the dab like craze, if
Speaker 2: you will. It was probably twenty.
Speaker 1: Thirteen. Oh, you were swelling some fucking Oh yeah, some
Speaker 1: poop soup dude, some fucking dude.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, this fool is like I have
Speaker 2: a YouTube interview with him that happened right after, and
Speaker 2: I'm blasted. But he gave me one hit and it
Speaker 2: was like an uncomfortable cough, like almost like I never
Speaker 2: had smoked before type of cough where I was like,
Speaker 2: oh this, this is this hurts yep, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got to try a flavor. So it gave me
Speaker 2: another one. So I did three hits within like ninety
Speaker 2: seconds to two minutes.
Speaker 1: Yep, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Did Then I watched Mac Miller fucking just with a
Speaker 2: full band and tripping the fuck out. Dude. It was
Speaker 2: like I was one of the best concert experiences I
Speaker 2: think I've ever had. Are you a big music guy.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say like a I wouldn't say like a big,
Speaker 1: big music guy, but yeah, you know, I mean I
Speaker 1: mainly listen to rap. Yeah, I listen, you know. It
Speaker 1: honestly depends on the day.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll just hop on Spotify and just see, like
Speaker 1: what they suggest me, you know, but usually it's kind
Speaker 1: of ship yeah, hit or miss. But most of the time,
Speaker 1: you know, I listened to a lot of Lucky. Lucky's
Speaker 1: really good. I used to not listen to him, but
Speaker 1: I started recently. I think his new ship's really good.
Speaker 1: And by listening to his new ship, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: now it's old ship sounds good, you know. So I
Speaker 1: went back and listening to that play Boy Cardi. If
Speaker 1: he would drop anything would be awesome, that would be
Speaker 1: great to listen to.
Speaker 2: Are you a big Cardi fan?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Dilate is like one of my favorite albums.
Speaker 1: I fucking I play that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Much better than a whole lot of I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dilt is one of my favs. I mean
Speaker 1: a whole lot of red. There's like a couple of
Speaker 1: songs on there.
Speaker 2: Dude, and I have gotten to the point with Cardi
Speaker 2: where I'm just like I missed the boat on this guys.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Yeah, Like like I appreciate the
Speaker 2: like he kind of pushed like, you know, like he
Speaker 2: like sonically he'll do shit. That was like different, you know,
Speaker 2: but I just did. I saw him live like twice,
Speaker 2: and each time I was just like, he's just screaming
Speaker 2: and running. Yep, he's not even performing his songs. They
Speaker 2: just play while he like shouts at the devil and
Speaker 2: does Cardio and then there's like a random white dude
Speaker 2: with a mohawk next to him. Yeah, he just got
Speaker 2: them doing Heroin for a month and then decided to
Speaker 2: show up to the show and not out on stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's new. Ship's pretty out there. But his old
Speaker 1: stuff's really good.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not mad at this.
Speaker 1: I love his old stuff.
Speaker 2: I did like dilut Ye and then I like all
Speaker 2: his shit on the cozy tapes they said him yep, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: shout out to play Boy Cardi. Have you like had
Speaker 2: any artists or anybody who you kind of grew up
Speaker 2: looking up to, like kind of like see follow you
Speaker 2: or see like they kind of know who you are,
Speaker 2: you're a fan.
Speaker 1: Of, like what you're doing. I wouldn't say any of
Speaker 1: it really like grew up liking you know, no, not really.
Speaker 1: When I was young and I was like in middle
Speaker 1: school and high school and ship, it was all like
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, you know that he was he was like
Speaker 1: in then. You know, it was like if you didn't
Speaker 1: listen to Lil Wayne at the lunch table, get the
Speaker 1: fuck up.
Speaker 2: You know, Lil Wayne is the guy who I would if,
Speaker 2: like Lil Wayne passed me the lean cup, you.
Speaker 1: Kind of have to, you know, how to do it,
Speaker 1: Like fuck, I guess I'm.
Speaker 2: Going certain people you gotta smoke with. Yep, Like if
Speaker 2: fucking what's the dude's name, Richards from fucking the Rolling Stones,
Speaker 2: a guy that's barely alive, the main guitarist something Richard's anyway,
Speaker 2: if he wanted to do like Heroin with you, you might, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it, but somebody would.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure, quite a few people would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so you got merch that's booming. People
Speaker 2: can obviously how often do you go online?
Speaker 1: It Honestly, past couple of weeks, I haven't been posting
Speaker 1: shit because I've been so specific. But no, there's no schedule.
Speaker 1: It's sporadic, but I post a good amount usually like
Speaker 1: two three videos a week. I'll stream like probably four
Speaker 1: or five days out of the week.
Speaker 2: And have you started to incorporate your lady into the
Speaker 2: streaming at all or you're keeping her? Really?
Speaker 1: You know, she doesn't. She doesn't really want to be involved,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I know, fucking some dudes like they got their girls
Speaker 2: are on like there stream of them now and ship.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm chilling, you know. I mean there's one
Speaker 1: time she, you know, came in and grabbed something from
Speaker 1: a fan of yours initially, right, yeah, that's yeah. But
Speaker 1: you know it wasn't really like a like a weird thing,
Speaker 1: you know. It's just like, I don't know, it was
Speaker 1: different for sure. It was a little like strange, you know,
Speaker 1: because I felt like she knew a lot more about me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I watched all my ship and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: you watched the crack video and you're still down, Like
Speaker 1: what's up with you? Like, what's wait? You filmed you
Speaker 1: doing crack? No, but I talked about it. Oh, you
Speaker 1: talked about it, Okay, Like what, No, I didn't film that,
Speaker 1: like you and your friends had crack in that kitchen. No,
Speaker 1: we didn't film it, damn dude.
Speaker 2: Well look, I think it's dope. Like I just love
Speaker 2: the fact that, like I uncovered this whole new like
Speaker 2: you guys are extremely successful, extremely popping, Like your page
Speaker 2: is super dope, and I had no idea that like
Speaker 2: your sub genre of content creation was a thing. So
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by it. Dude, I think it's dope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a It's an awesome community. Dude. It's like
Speaker 1: YouTube never recommends our ship, so like you have to.
Speaker 2: Have like real fuckers fucking with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta. You gotta like find the ship, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta. It's like almost like a word of mouth thing.
Speaker 1: Damn near because very few of our videos end up
Speaker 1: getting recommended.
Speaker 2: Do you do it any Like you gotta uh tiktoks
Speaker 2: to keep getting banned, So that's not a thing, yep.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Do you put anything up on Facebook?
Speaker 1: No? I just do Twitter, Instagram and YouTube and Twitch.
Speaker 2: You should do a snapchat show.
Speaker 1: I used to use Snapchat a lot.
Speaker 2: O listen the Snapchat show. Have you been on there
Speaker 2: and you could see the original shows? Yeah? Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: they're given those shows to some people. I got one.
Speaker 2: It really makes a lot of money. They pay, They pay.
Speaker 1: Fuck like you could do like how do you get
Speaker 1: into that though? Like how do you do you reach ott?
Speaker 1: You with a guy you appreciate? You could do like
Speaker 1: your types of videos. You could do like Goblin commentates.
Speaker 2: Do you ever do commentary ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do a lot.
Speaker 2: You could just do that about like pop culture and dude,
Speaker 2: it'll just feed the algorithm and they pay nicely.
Speaker 1: I would love a Snapchat check Snapchat administrators out there.
Speaker 2: You gotta tap in man. Any collabs coming up? I know? Uh,
Speaker 2: like for you when you say you had the grinder
Speaker 2: shit going on? Do you ever collab with any of
Speaker 2: the other guys in your community?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I do a lot of stuff with Yola,
Speaker 1: Eric Khan. You know those are the homies I'm planning
Speaker 1: on getting involved in my podcast pretty soon. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be doing one.
Speaker 2: You're filling it out here?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, is the Marty guy helping?
Speaker 1: No, Actually, it's my homies in pine Park.
Speaker 2: Oh sick, that's dope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be fun interview based. Yeah, yeah, mainly,
Speaker 1: but I can give some solo episodes.
Speaker 2: I think you have a great I think anybody who
Speaker 2: can like talk by themselves and be entertaining that's such
Speaker 2: a hard thing to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's uh, you watch a lot of videos
Speaker 1: and it's just like cut every like three seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cut more like people if they are talking,
Speaker 2: like it's just it's hoopla. It's drama that maybeople are
Speaker 2: interested in. Or even then it's like a lot of podcasts,
Speaker 2: like you got to kind of have a guest there
Speaker 2: to bounce it off of, because like it's not easy
Speaker 2: to just carry a interesting conversation to tell a story,
Speaker 2: and definitely people who aren't sitting in front of you. Yep,
Speaker 2: that shit's tough, dude, it's a skill. So I'm sure
Speaker 2: the podcast is gonna be fire.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, thank you, bro, appreciate it. I'm excited for it, dude.
Speaker 1: You should come on something. I'm down, dude, let's do it.
Speaker 1: You haven't launched it yet, No, not yet, It's coming soon. Goobcast,
Speaker 1: the Gobcast. I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Gobcast coming soon.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Do you have a website people, and go by the.
Speaker 1: Merch Goblin four twenty dot com. It's the spot for
Speaker 1: all the goods.
Speaker 2: Welcome to La.
Speaker 1: Yep, thank you so much. I'm loving it so far.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to print money out here because
Speaker 2: all these weed companies are mostly ran by idiots and
Speaker 2: they have money and they just they're really good at
Speaker 2: setting money on fire.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yep.
Speaker 2: So that's where you come in and.
Speaker 1: Yep, take it, take it, fuck yeah, take I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to it. I'll be like a shark. All you
Speaker 1: got to know is if you go downtown, you know
Speaker 1: what in your world.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what you're gonna run into. You're
Speaker 2: gonna run into the guys downtown who have the high
Speaker 2: rise condo and you walk in and it's like a
Speaker 2: fucking weed walmart in every building downtown. All the trappers.
Speaker 2: There's a trapper on every floor to every high price
Speaker 2: high rise in downtown l A. Really, if you're in
Speaker 2: downtown LA and you see random motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: With suitcases.
Speaker 2: They're trapping, there's pounds of weed in those suitcases. Damn.
Speaker 2: It's not just like no I mean problems ship. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I put that out there. Never mind, don't rob anybody.
Speaker 1: I didn't plan on it.
Speaker 2: I was just you know, Yeah, you're about to eat though.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, welcome to l a Man. Good to meet you.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Likewise, go check this guy out Goblin four twenty dot
Speaker 2: com ig with trag the g b l N and
Speaker 2: then YouTube is Goblin just Goblin?
Speaker 3: You got that?
Speaker 2: You got that?
Speaker 1: Uh well, if you type me in, I come up first. Yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you pulling up brother.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, thank you so much for having me. Was
Speaker 1: a good one, Yes, sir, banger.
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