WEBVTT - President Musk Takeover | SoloPod

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lamb Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with Reason Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody. I am happy to be here with you

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<v Speaker 1>all today. This is my second solo pod with Native

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<v Speaker 1>Lampod and as we say normally, with my co hosts

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<v Speaker 1>who aren't with me of course, because it's a solo pod,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum shout out to tiff is

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<v Speaker 1>her birthday week. Welcome home, y'all. So today we are

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<v Speaker 1>getting back into it. Last week, as you all know,

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<v Speaker 1>we covered the federal funding freeze, and this week I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about President Elon Musk. There are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a couple of these in this series. I think

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<v Speaker 1>next we're going to talk about Steven Miller, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the Deputy chief of Staff for Policy at the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>But today I think it's really really important for us

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<v Speaker 1>to dive into the role that Elon Musk is playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the federal government, the fact that it is very

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<v Speaker 1>much outside, perhaps illegal, and he is waiting in the water,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe drowning in the water, with conflicts of interest. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into that, I think first and

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<v Speaker 1>foremost what I really want to talk about. Actually, before

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<v Speaker 1>I get into anything, let me offer this disclaimer, because

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<v Speaker 1>what we know about this White House and the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration is they are highly litigious. So to cover my

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<v Speaker 1>home behind iHeart and reason choice media, let me say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I am acknowledging that they are very litigious. That what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about today is going to infuriate

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<v Speaker 1>some associated with the federal government. Whether they are contractors,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk acolytes, Trump acolytes, fans, MAGA protesters, or anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that remains that they are litigious. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to ensure I want to ensure that you

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<v Speaker 1>know the sources. I will cite the sources as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I can. I will do my best to say

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<v Speaker 1>what is alleged. I will let you know what is

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<v Speaker 1>a theory and what is my inner holy ghost, the

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<v Speaker 1>black woman's discernment, and let you know that it is just.

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<v Speaker 2>That a theory.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I will also be sure as always to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know what is a fact, because facts matter

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<v Speaker 1>in a day and age where they could not convince

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<v Speaker 1>us more that they do not.

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<v Speaker 2>They matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will also make sure that I am diligent

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<v Speaker 1>about this because.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that these are Donald Trump's puppet masters.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting of course, with Elon Musk, I said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that means it's a theory. So one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we will also continue to go back to is

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<v Speaker 1>Project twenty twenty five. In Project twenty twenty five, efficiency

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<v Speaker 1>or inefficiency is mentioned at least sixty times in that document.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's no wonder that the Trump administration is working

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<v Speaker 1>diligently to come up with something that makes government more efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, they created an agency, because you know, Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>are apparently about big government these days, they added a

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<v Speaker 1>new agency. That agency is called the Department of Government Efficiency,

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<v Speaker 1>because the best way to make government more efficient is

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<v Speaker 1>to add another agency. I'm just kidding if you can't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other thing that I think we should talk

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<v Speaker 1>about is who Donald Trump and Elon were, where their

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<v Speaker 1>relationship originated, and how we got to this very treacherous place.

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<v Speaker 1>So on July thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Elon Musk went

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<v Speaker 1>to the platform that he purchased formally known as Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>to endorse Donald Trump. Since then, the evil brother to

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<v Speaker 1>True Social has seemingly suppressed the content of its most

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<v Speaker 1>progressive users, and has amplified content that is relate to,

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<v Speaker 1>related to and bolsters the once banned President Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk briefly about who Elon Musk is. So

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<v Speaker 1>he is a South African born entrepreneur. He is believed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the richest man in the world, with a

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<v Speaker 1>reported net worth of more than four hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. One hundred and fifty billion of that four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten billion has been garnered since the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four election. You heard me right, So he got

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<v Speaker 1>a whole additional one hundred and fifty billion dollars since

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<v Speaker 1>the election. I think that is worth noting. Next, this

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<v Speaker 1>former h one B visa holder. As I said, he

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<v Speaker 1>is the South African born richest man in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk got rich from building companies like PayPal and

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<v Speaker 1>then going on to invest in companies like Tesla, which

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<v Speaker 1>most of us know him from.

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<v Speaker 2>And SpaceX.

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<v Speaker 1>This election cycle, he establish a pack called America Pack

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who don't know, a pack stands

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<v Speaker 1>for political Action committee. So he founded America Political Action

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<v Speaker 1>Committee and according to FBC filing, spent seventy two million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to support the election of Donald J.

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<v Speaker 2>T Donald J.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump so again July endorsement established his America Pack spends

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two million dollars of his own money to help

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<v Speaker 1>get Donald Trump elected. I would say a theory is

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<v Speaker 1>he did a little bit more than that. You all

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<v Speaker 1>know my theory if you watch the podcast. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know my theory, watch the podcast. It is a theory.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not confirmed, but I believe that the SpaceX

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<v Speaker 1>Satellite Division might have had something to do with this

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<v Speaker 1>electoral victory.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's that now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to also say that that it is that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going back to the facts. Let me go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the facts. Don't ever bouy my theories for now.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of Trump's earliest advisors, Steve Bannon, who you

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<v Speaker 1>are may remember. His name may ring a bell because

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<v Speaker 1>he was held in contempt of Congress for not cooperating

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<v Speaker 1>with Congress. He said recently that Elon Musk's sole objective is.

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<v Speaker 2>To become a trillionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>There is apparently trouble in paradise because Steve Bannon and

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<v Speaker 1>Elon must don't rock with each other. Steve Bannon was

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<v Speaker 1>fired in the last Trump administration, but he is still

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<v Speaker 1>a diehard Maga. So the Magas are scrapping. So he

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<v Speaker 1>said that his only goal is to become a trillionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>He says that white South Africans are the most racist

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet. It's funny to watch the pot calling

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<v Speaker 1>the kettle black, or maybe to watch the pot calling

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<v Speaker 1>the kettle white, or to say that the sheet and

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<v Speaker 1>the wall match. I don't know, but I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth noting. So they're fighting, there's trouble in paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that he was going to see to it

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<v Speaker 1>by inauguration that Elon Musk did not have the unfettered

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<v Speaker 1>access that surprise he has. So Steve Bannon, you fail,

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<v Speaker 1>Try again, for try again now. I want to just

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<v Speaker 1>get into the frail a little bit around what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in South Africa. You would will have just noted that

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<v Speaker 1>most recently, Donald Trump said that he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>cut off all funding the South Africa. I keep emphasizing

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<v Speaker 1>the South African born Elon Musk for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk might have something to do with this policy.

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<v Speaker 1>So South Africa just announced a land expropriation law, and

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<v Speaker 1>that law passed last month. It is designed to redress

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<v Speaker 1>the apartheid era confiscation of land owned by black people,

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<v Speaker 1>and Donald Trump, in response to this law passing in

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa, made this statement on true social South Africa

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<v Speaker 1>is confiscating land and treating certain classes of people very badly.

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<v Speaker 1>A massive, a massive human rights violation at a minimum

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<v Speaker 1>is happening for all to see. The United States won't

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<v Speaker 1>stand for it.

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<v Speaker 2>We will act. Also note this part.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I will be cutting off all future spending, all

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<v Speaker 1>future funding. I'm sorry about that, all future funding to

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa until a full investigation of this situation has

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<v Speaker 1>been completed. Now, what is fascinating about this is Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>Mister America first himself is real focused on where he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to, you know, lay down the law on a tariff.

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<v Speaker 1>He drew that back, he pulled that back, and now

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about funding the South Africa. And South Africa

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<v Speaker 1>only receives foreign aid from US to the tune of

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred million dollars annually and it's mostly for health programs,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily focused around HIV AID support. So it's fascinating that

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<v Speaker 1>he's tied this land expropriation law that is designed to

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<v Speaker 1>give people back the land that they once had and

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying, we're not going to do this. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>you should also know and then I'm gonna get back

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<v Speaker 1>to America, roll with me to South Africa a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit longer. Elon Mus's hometown homeland home country. Land ownership

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<v Speaker 1>has been a very contentious issue in South Africa. This is,

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<v Speaker 1>according to BBC, for more than a century. In nineteen thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>British colonies authorized British colonial authorities pass legislation that restricted

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<v Speaker 1>the property rights of the country's black majority. Again, the

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<v Speaker 1>law that was just passed is designed to give back

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<v Speaker 1>black folks the land that they once had. The Native's

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<v Speaker 1>Land Act left the vast majority of the land under

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<v Speaker 1>the control of the white minority and set the foundation

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<v Speaker 1>for the forced removal of black people to poor homelands,

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<v Speaker 1>homelands and townships. And this is more than three decades ago,

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<v Speaker 1>until the end of apartheid. Now, the other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is worth noting is that Elon mu Us

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<v Speaker 1>had something to say and it sounded very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>what Donald Trump said around returning the land.

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<v Speaker 2>And it being a racist policy.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Washington Post said that South Africa's government has

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<v Speaker 1>framed land reform as a moral social and economic imperative.

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<v Speaker 1>I think many of us would agree with that given

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<v Speaker 1>our own experiences in this country because of the systemic

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<v Speaker 1>dispossession of black South Africans under apartheid. The country did

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<v Speaker 1>a land audit in twenty seventeen, and that land audit

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<v Speaker 1>says that the white population in South Africa owned seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two percent of individually owned farms and agricultural holdings. Mixed

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<v Speaker 1>race citizens also known as coloreds in South Africa owned

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent, Indians owned five percent, In Africans owned four percent. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what you need to know is, according to the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two census in South Africa, white folks made up

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<v Speaker 1>seven point three percent of the population, but again owned

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two percent of the farms and agricultural lands. So

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<v Speaker 1>when Elon Musk says, why do you guys have openly

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<v Speaker 1>racist ownership laws, he's not looking at the data and

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<v Speaker 1>he's not looking at the impact, not even the intention

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<v Speaker 1>of the law. We talked several times now about what

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<v Speaker 1>the intention of that law is. But Elon Musk is

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on the fact that white South Africans like him

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<v Speaker 1>are going to perhaps get land snatched, that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>even occupying. By the way, it is unoccupied land, unclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>land that they are returning back to black citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is what is bizarre to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is very clear to me is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for Elon Musk, if it don't make dollars, it don't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. He says, well, it's been noted that Musk's

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<v Speaker 1>Starlink satellite internet service was denied and this is a

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<v Speaker 1>company that is a subsidiary of SpaceX. It was denied

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<v Speaker 1>a license in South Africa because it doesn't meet affirmative

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<v Speaker 1>action criteria.

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<v Speaker 2>All of this story to say to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That if Elon Musk doesn't have a direct financial opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a potential, he don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason that Elon Musk is tweeting about South

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<v Speaker 1>Africa and its racist laws ownership laws is really because

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<v Speaker 1>this is a theory, by the way, is really because

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk is frustrated by the fact that his company,

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<v Speaker 1>Starlink Satellite was denied a license in South Africa. So

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<v Speaker 1>now he's questioning everything they do to create equitable outcomes

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<v Speaker 1>for people who have suffered under an apartheid system and

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<v Speaker 1>still haven't seen equity, equality and justice. If we're honest.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has Donald Trump in the fray around the

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<v Speaker 1>expropriation law, but really he wants to upset what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in South Africa because he didn't get a contract

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<v Speaker 1>which brings us to the United States. So what we

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<v Speaker 1>also know is that Elon Musk has marched his white

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<v Speaker 1>man privilege into the White House, into the White House

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<v Speaker 1>complex at that with office space in his role as

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Government Efficiency lead, and Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>named him a special government employee. There is a big well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>there are several big issues with Elon Musk being named

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<v Speaker 1>a special government employee, especially because in some ways it

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<v Speaker 1>appears so again this is a theory, it appears that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and his administration don't understand that conflict of

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<v Speaker 1>interest and ethics still apply to special government employees. So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into that a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to understand. One, Elon must South

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<v Speaker 1>African descent, since they can't stand immigrant so much. It

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<v Speaker 1>depends apparently white immigrants are in the clear, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>a South African immigrant who now has unfettered access to

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government. Anybody that has created an obstacle for

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<v Speaker 1>him economically he's going after we saw him do that

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<v Speaker 1>most recently with the South African president, and he's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump in the frey there.

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<v Speaker 2>But furthermore, furthermore.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to understand what he plans to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Government efficiency and how it will benefit

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<v Speaker 1>President Elon Musk. So I got a question, Lolo, you

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<v Speaker 1>just sent me from someone who said, who is leading

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation? What investigation are y'all talking about? I've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking for a long time. Just run that thing back

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So, now let's go into Elon musk potential bias as

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<v Speaker 1>a special government employee, the conflicts of interests that are there,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the government business he has, and why

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<v Speaker 1>this might create a much larger issue. So special government

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<v Speaker 1>employees are defined in eighteen USC. Section two oho two,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, Title eighteen of the United States Code, Section

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<v Speaker 1>two zero two.

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<v Speaker 2>What can we do that does not include the Supreme Court?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, these questions are I'm gonna keep I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>through my monologue and then I'll go back to these questions.

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<v Speaker 1>But a special government employee means that the person's work

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<v Speaker 1>does not normally exceed one hundred and thirty days annually.

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<v Speaker 1>We know there's three hundred and sixty five days in

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<v Speaker 1>a year. One hundred and thirty days may not It

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<v Speaker 1>may be no problem. Elon muss and his friends may

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<v Speaker 1>be no problem. They sleeping in government buildings, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into that later.

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<v Speaker 2>May not be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are some other problems. So special government employees

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<v Speaker 1>do have rules that apply to them. Donald Trump seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to try to skirt by this issue in a press

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<v Speaker 1>conference yesterday when he said, you know, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk is a special government employee who also isn't

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid, So we'll call them a special government volunteer.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they intend to introduce a new category of employee

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<v Speaker 1>where none of the conflict of interests and ethics rules

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<v Speaker 1>apply to them, or for now they do.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>While he doesn't have to comply with every ethics rule

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<v Speaker 1>and conflict of interest rule that it normally applies to

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<v Speaker 1>a full time government employee, appointed position, et cetera, special

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<v Speaker 1>government employees do have rules, and especially around financial disclosures, ethics,

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<v Speaker 1>and misuse of position. So the in the misuse of

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<v Speaker 1>position part of the law, it says you cannot use

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<v Speaker 1>public office for their own private gain or private gains

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<v Speaker 1>of friends. Okay, So remember that eighteen USC. Two eight

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<v Speaker 1>A says it prohibits you from participating personally and substantially

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<v Speaker 1>in any particular matter that affects your finance interests as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the financial interests of your spouse, minor child,

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<v Speaker 1>general partner, an organization in which you serve as an officer, director, trustee,

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<v Speaker 1>general partner, or employee, or an organization with which you

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<v Speaker 1>are negotiating or with which you have an arrangement for

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<v Speaker 1>perspective employment. So we are going to shortly get into

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<v Speaker 1>the many places where Elon Musk's companies have government contracts

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<v Speaker 1>and why it is a problem that he accessed all

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<v Speaker 1>of the payment systems for the Department of Treasury, along

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<v Speaker 1>with several others. So I don't know if Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and Elon Musk will get rid of FDIC. Congress can

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<v Speaker 1>introduce legislation to stop them. And I'm just stopping here

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<v Speaker 1>because there are more questions that are coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that what is most important is for the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic minority in the Senate and the House to find

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<v Speaker 1>who their potential are allies are on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the out and the Senate, in the House that

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<v Speaker 1>are in districts where their majorities are thin. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>were formerly blue districts. Maybe they are districts where they're Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not really Trumpers like that, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to give him unfettered access to destroying the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the folks who they should be looking to

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<v Speaker 1>ally up with, to align with, to determine what the

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<v Speaker 1>steps forward could be to introduce legislation to stop some

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<v Speaker 1>of what's happening. The majority is razor thin in the House,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's razor thin in the Senate. They definitely don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anywhere near sixty votes. So there are a number

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<v Speaker 1>of things that can and should be done. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>that on these retreats and conferences that are currently being

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<v Speaker 1>held that they're talking about these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into two. I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, President Donald Musk elon Musk conflicts of interest. So,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the New York Times, Tesla has three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty two thousand, which isn't a lot in federal contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are federal contracts. No less, SpaceX has fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>point four billion dollars in contracts with nine different departments

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<v Speaker 1>and three different government agencies.

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<v Speaker 2>These are all at the federal level, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla and SpaceX, according to the New York Times, are

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<v Speaker 1>the subject of more than twenty investigations or reviews by

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<v Speaker 1>five different departments and six agencies in the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is significant.

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<v Speaker 1>Six figures in contracts for Tesla, billions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>contracts for SpaceX, the subject of more than twenty investigation

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<v Speaker 1>or reviews by five different departments and six agencies. One

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<v Speaker 1>of these that you probably are already guessing is the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Treasury. So by election day, just so you

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<v Speaker 1>all understand, by election day, according to New York Times,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon mus led companies were in several battles across agencies

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<v Speaker 1>and departments, including being fined. So that brings us back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Department of Government efficiency. That's for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>to stop here at what happened with Treasury. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are questions coming in about the Treasury department. What's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>How does it impact us? The Department of Treasury literally

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<v Speaker 1>is the entity that prints our money. It is literally

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<v Speaker 1>the entity that is charged with holding banks accountable to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that our money is protected. Somebody asked about FDIC.

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<v Speaker 1>The Department of Treasury is responsible for more than one

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<v Speaker 1>billion payments per year, totaling five trillion dollars. Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>has said to let him into the Department of Treasury

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<v Speaker 1>because he could trim more than a trillion dollars from

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<v Speaker 1>the federal deficit. The payments that the Department of Treasury

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<v Speaker 1>oversees include all types of sensitive information, including bank accounts

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<v Speaker 1>and social Security numbers, as well as all of those payments,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is very, very important that we understand what

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<v Speaker 1>they have access to at this point. There are several

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<v Speaker 1>laws that Elon Musk's team could be violating. We went

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<v Speaker 1>through some of those relative to a special government employee

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<v Speaker 1>and their conflicts of interests, their financial disclosure requirements when

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to wall themselves completely off. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>he is an officer of a company that has federal

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<v Speaker 1>government contracts, a founder of a company that has federal

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<v Speaker 1>government contracts, and he is now in there tinkering with

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<v Speaker 1>his competition's payments. It's just a bridge too far from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to also go to OPM, which has not

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<v Speaker 1>been discussed as much. What you should know is OPM

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<v Speaker 1>is discussed, so is USAID. By the way, you all,

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<v Speaker 1>i'm sure, have been seeing a lot of things about

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<v Speaker 1>USAID in the news. USAID and OPM are talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in the Project twenty twenty five. There's one part on

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<v Speaker 1>page two seventy one where they're talked about in the

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<v Speaker 1>same paragraph. It is important for you to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk is not doing anything, as Donald Trump said

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<v Speaker 1>himself in a press conference, that hasn't already been authorized.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump made not necessarily be the one who authorized

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<v Speaker 1>it or one who authorized it. But let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you who is the authors of Project twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>The Heritage Foundation, the same Heritage Foundation that gave Ronald

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan his blueprint, the same Heritage Foundation that gave George

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<v Speaker 1>hw and George W. Bush their blueprint. There's nothing new

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<v Speaker 1>under the sun, y'all. They have just renamed the thing

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<v Speaker 1>and they've gotten a little more Rogan reckless. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>you see Republican senators and members of the House on

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<v Speaker 1>TV saying tough, it's gonna be alright, y'all, just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to trim the fat because you like bureaucracy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not it.

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<v Speaker 1>They want bureaucracy, but only if it results in payments

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<v Speaker 1>for their friends, and if they can be punitive and

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<v Speaker 1>stop payments for grants that look into climate change and

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<v Speaker 1>grants that go to HBCUs and opportunities like funding people's

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<v Speaker 1>social security because you know they've been trying to cut

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<v Speaker 1>that for a long time. This is what we end

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<v Speaker 1>up with. We talked about the impowerment clause last week

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit again. It is they're now saying

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<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't necessarily have to be empowerment. They are

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<v Speaker 1>just reviewing, and that review could be a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that they're halting payments. All of that is problematic,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is by design in Project twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>So Office of Personnel Management, which is also referenced several

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<v Speaker 1>times over again in Project twenty twenty five. What you

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<v Speaker 1>should know is that Musk associates, musk acolytes, including past

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<v Speaker 1>and present employees of his, have taken over OPM, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the Office of Personal Management. Literally, they have put

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<v Speaker 1>in sofa beds near the old director's office. They are

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrating to them that you can't even get up here

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<v Speaker 1>to the fifth floor if you don't have a security clearance.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't approve you. And while they're doing all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, they are locking out senior officials at OPM.

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<v Speaker 1>According to routers from Key Systems, Elon's team has gotten

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<v Speaker 1>into a system called the Enterprise Human Resources Integration. That

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<v Speaker 1>system contains highly personal information for government personnel across agency,

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<v Speaker 1>across department. It includes information like your birth dates, social

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<v Speaker 1>security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades, length of service

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<v Speaker 1>of government workers, and any disciplinary action. All of that

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<v Speaker 1>is in OPM files. That includes staffing information for members

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress. So again, when you think about the retribute

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<v Speaker 1>of nature of Elon Musk and Donald Trump, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a way to punish their enemies, going into treasury to

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<v Speaker 1>halt payments, going into the OPM files to disclose data

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<v Speaker 1>and information that doesn't belong to them. And moreover, there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain things that the federal government has done to

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<v Speaker 1>keep our information safe from safe from foreign entities. They

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<v Speaker 1>are circumventing all of that, which also makes our information

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable and susceptible to hacks by foreign government entities. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go briefly into GSA. GSA is responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>every lease of federal office buildings and according to the AP.

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<v Speaker 2>Just last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, an email from Washington headquarters of GS was

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<v Speaker 1>sent and it instructed every regional manager to terminate leases

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<v Speaker 1>on roughly seventy five hundred federal offices nationally. That initiative

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<v Speaker 1>is being led by another Elon Musk employee. Her name

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<v Speaker 1>is Nicole Hollander, and I believe she worked for X.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't put that down, but that was another thing

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<v Speaker 1>to just be mindful of. They are doing this across

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<v Speaker 1>the board from Treasury OPM GSA.

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<v Speaker 2>We just talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>Office of Management and Budget, as you know, is responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for the federal funding freeze last week. They're doing this

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<v Speaker 1>at USAID USA jobs and so even if you ever

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<v Speaker 1>applied for a federal government job, your information is in there,

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<v Speaker 1>all susceptible to being shared.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Education, we know that they're going in planning

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<v Speaker 1>to essentially gut the Department of Education. You all know

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<v Speaker 1>Project twenty twenty five and in most Republican talking points

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<v Speaker 1>for the throughout the years, they wanted to gut the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Education SBA. They're going to do the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing at SBAS that they did with Treasury. Any if

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<v Speaker 1>you have an SBA loan, if you have an SBA grant.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have an SBA special classification, all of that

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<v Speaker 1>information is subject to being shared now, so a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks are asking what will people do to fight back.

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<v Speaker 1>It is imperative that you reach out to your member

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress and say you might be overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we go from here, but what

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<v Speaker 1>I do know is I elected you to fight, and

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<v Speaker 1>here are the expectations I have of you and sharing them,

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<v Speaker 1>sharing with them with their staff what you think they

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing. We are seeing that there are all

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<v Speaker 1>types of lawsuits being filed by unions who work with

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<v Speaker 1>federal government employees, by folks who are challenging thee the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration's birthright citizenship position. There are all types of

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuits that are being filed around this Elon Musk having

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<v Speaker 1>unfettered access to governmental government employee data, government contracts, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>especially those of UH those employees and former employees of

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<v Speaker 1>his who have not been fired file hire they should

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<v Speaker 1>be fired hired by the Feds to have any access

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<v Speaker 1>to this information, and how it makes us susceptible to attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that is being challenged in the courts, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are things that members of Congress can and should do.

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<v Speaker 1>You can reach your member of Congress by calling to

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<v Speaker 1>zero two two two four three one two one. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the Capitol Hill Operator. They can transfer you to

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<v Speaker 1>your uh, your member of Congress, to your senator, to

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<v Speaker 1>to be connected with them and to share what you

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<v Speaker 1>think should happen. All good ideas are all ideas right

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<v Speaker 1>now are good ideas. There are no bad ideas. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk about how to fight, how to protect

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<v Speaker 1>what we know is ours. Now. This democracy is fragile,

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<v Speaker 1>it is trash, it is frustrating. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen very quickly within the last couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>that so much can change in a matter of moments,

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<v Speaker 1>that while it hangs in the balance, that there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about that democracy that's worth protecting. So as we weighe

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<v Speaker 1>through Elon Musk's conflicts of interest, as we get frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>by the laws that are seemingly broken, some more apparent

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<v Speaker 1>than others, and the physical proximity to the president that

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk has, we know that he is still shooting

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<v Speaker 1>himself in the proverbial foot. So, while the tariffs are

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<v Speaker 1>right at Tesla's door, with Forbes reporting a dippinent stock.

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<v Speaker 1>It costs Elon Musk nearly twelve billion dollars to be

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<v Speaker 1>closely associated with this president and to be supporting policies

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<v Speaker 1>that may actually cause him economic harm. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder to him that nobody's safe in a Trump universe.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if you find yourself doing his bidding, ask

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Cohen about how that goes. Ask Steve Bannon about

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<v Speaker 1>how that goes. So President Elon Musk for now, but

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be President Stephen Miller tomorrow and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that next week. Before I go, I'm gonna see if

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<v Speaker 1>there are any other questions. It doesn't appear that there

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<v Speaker 1>are any. I'm thirty minutes in. It's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen minute podcast, and so I just will say

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<v Speaker 1>until next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, there are more questions. Should Doge exist? Hell no?

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<v Speaker 2>Does the doge? Only?

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<v Speaker 1>Does the Doge make suggestions only for which federal office

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<v Speaker 1>they want to cut funding for? But who makes the

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<v Speaker 1>final decision? Yes, Donald Trump is ultimately the final arbiter.

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like he is refering to Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>Can Elon and his team be banned from this info

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<v Speaker 1>and this new department by law. Yeah, the law needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be passed, and sadly it would need to be

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<v Speaker 1>signed into law by Donald Trump unless there was a

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<v Speaker 1>veto proof majority, and I think that would be really

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<v Speaker 1>challenging right now. And then there's a last question. The

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman that blocked Elon from accessing the system then resigned.

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<v Speaker 1>Has anyone talked to him? I believe you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the gentleman from the Department of Treasury. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody's talked to him, and he may have resigned

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<v Speaker 1>just for moral reasons. Was he paid off? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will tell you who is paid off. A

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<v Speaker 1>good number of federal government employees to the tune of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand, which makes up about one percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>overall federal government staffing, took out. Took the payouts, which

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<v Speaker 1>means that taking a payout, getting paid even through November

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<v Speaker 1>of this year, you are no longer eligible for a

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<v Speaker 1>federal pension. There. I'm sure we'll be a court battle

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<v Speaker 1>around that as well. Don't take the payout, hold your ground,

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<v Speaker 1>stay in your ground, make sure that you fight until

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Keep sharing this information. Congressoman Maxine waters put

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<v Speaker 1>up on the Financial Services Committee page on the ranking

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<v Speaker 1>member sides. Of course she's a ranking member. A whistleblower

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<v Speaker 1>sheet that you can fill out form you can fill out.

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<v Speaker 1>Please make sure you are sharing information with members of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress who care, who will fight for you. That is imperative. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>call your members two zero two two two four three

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<v Speaker 1>one two one, and until next time, Welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>This is long.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even get through all my notes, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on. Look up SBA, look up USA job,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Department of Education, Treasury. It's all happening at

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<v Speaker 1>the same damn time. If you got friends that work on,

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<v Speaker 1>work there. Check out your strong friends and know this

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