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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Brady. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They call

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super

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Speaker 1: producer Paul, Mission control deck, and most importantly, you are you.

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Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know here alive for us, at least

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Speaker 1: in a beautiful, beautiful, rainy afternoon here in our fair

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Speaker 1: metropolis of Atlanta, Georgia. It's dreary, it's gray, it's rainy.

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Speaker 1: Flip on the Shirley Manson if you're only happy when

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Speaker 1: it rains. This is like the setting for a murder mystery,

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Speaker 1: although from where we set right now, we wouldn't know,

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Speaker 1: because we're in case and box made of sort of

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Speaker 1: covered in wood paneling and also acoustic foam. But and

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Speaker 1: then we're in a sort of a dark cave. Outside

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Speaker 1: of that, we can say I've been in the cave

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Speaker 1: all day. I had no idea it was raining today, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's also in uh this, this entire apparatus is inside

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Speaker 1: guess it takes us about three minutes to figure out

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Speaker 1: to where the outside windows are. Do you think it

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Speaker 1: means we're being shielded against radiation though to a degree? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well that's that's a net positive, I would say, other

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Speaker 1: than the radiation and all our electronics. But that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a very good question, especially for today's episode. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, people, the weather is a very personal thing

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people, but it's a safe thing

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Speaker 1: you can talk about with almost anyone. And in these

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Speaker 1: our interesting times, weather has become even more of a

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Speaker 1: extraordinary topic because the times and the climbs are changing. Right,

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Speaker 1: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the

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Speaker 1: wind blows, It's true, and you know what past a

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Speaker 1: certain past about two weeks. Those meteorologists are almost like alchemists,

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Speaker 1: you know, because so much stuff can happen. It's not

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Speaker 1: a long time, but those models are becoming so sophisticated.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Which which models the ones that they're

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Speaker 1: all up in the weather. Yeah, But can they gesture

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Speaker 1: convincingly at a green screen map, Matt, I ask you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying the models themselves are better. So like

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Speaker 1: the two week thing is like still there, but you

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Speaker 1: Maybe not for that two week limit might not be uh,

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Speaker 1: might be a thing of the past sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: But you know, for a lot of people here in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: for Peak behind the curtain, Uh, the rain is just

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Speaker 1: played out now. People are tired of the being. They've

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Speaker 1: done all their rainy day stuff. They want some sunshine,

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Speaker 1: right I am. Of course ancient nemesis is the sun,

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Speaker 1: and so I love it. Whenever that guy's not directly

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Speaker 1: it's like I think a lot of people can agree,

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Speaker 1: our minds off the weather it is going to rain

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Speaker 1: all week here, we're gonna explore a seemingly benign concept sunshine, sunlight,

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Speaker 1: sunny days. We've been inspired by a lovely email from

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Speaker 1: a fellow conspiracy realist, Reba. It says, Hey, Chips, forgive

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Speaker 1: me if you've already covered it, as I've only started

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Speaker 1: listening to your podcast and reviewing your past subjects very recently.

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Speaker 1: But have you investigated the relationship between solar activity and

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Speaker 1: its effect on mass excitability and human health? It's a

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Speaker 1: dang interesting subject. I'm currently reading solar History, The Connection

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Speaker 1: of solar activity, war, peace, and the Human Mind in

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Speaker 1: the second Millennium by Sasha Dobbler, which is a bit

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Speaker 1: poorly written, awkwardly academic and roughly edited, but full of

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Speaker 1: interesting information and statistical significance. Ouch. Well yeah, if you haven't,

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Speaker 1: well you consider doing the research and making an episode.

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Speaker 1: In any case, keep up the great work. Hugs and

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Speaker 1: high fives, Rebu. It does sound like the book contained

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Speaker 1: Reba started, so you got to give a credit for that,

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Speaker 1: even if it's construction left something to be desired. And

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Speaker 1: we left book recommendations here on the show, So thank

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Speaker 1: you very much Reba for both listening, checking out our

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Speaker 1: And here are the facts. First, what is solar activity?

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Speaker 1: The Sun is this enormous, beautiful, dangerous, deadly thing. And

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Speaker 1: You know that stuff like gamma ray bursts. That's stuff

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Speaker 1: make Earth unlivable long before it actually engulfs that? Though, yes,

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Speaker 1: no worries. Humans will be long gone by then, will

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Speaker 1: So it is like it's like that movie Mother, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's something beautiful about that. Very David Attenborough, Very Planet

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Speaker 1: solar activity that that that's your question. To answer your question,

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Speaker 1: the Sun. And with these cycles, when there's a large

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Speaker 1: amount of activity that's occurring, as we we talked about before,

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Speaker 1: a lot of sun spotting, a lot of prominences, a

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Speaker 1: lot of things going on that it's the Sun you

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Speaker 1: have to think about in this way. The Sun is

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Speaker 1: emitting things outwards, right, that's generally what's occurring. Not a

430
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff headed into the Sun, unless you got

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Speaker 1: a comment that happens to be off course, or you know,

432
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Speaker 1: smaller pieces of rock or some kind of asteroid that

433
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Speaker 1: just happens to end up lock into its gravity and

434
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Speaker 1: just gets way too close. Mostly the Sun is shooting

435
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Speaker 1: stuff out so when it does that, it's actually affecting

436
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Speaker 1: the Earth itself. When you're thinking about geomagnetic storms, things

437
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Speaker 1: like that, radiation that's actually hitting the planet, and there

438
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Speaker 1: are a lot of other things too. Yeah. Yeah, So

439
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Speaker 1: he says, look, this stuff is happening all the time.

440
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Speaker 1: It has some sort of semi predictable cycle, and because

441
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Speaker 1: it's happening on such a large scale, if like this

442
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Speaker 1: would be one of our top suspects for a natural

443
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Speaker 1: process physico chemical process that could affect a bunch of

444
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Speaker 1: people at once have a global influence. And this is

445
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Speaker 1: the rough sketch of what Chajewski called helio biology. So

446
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Speaker 1: the question is I mean, like need idea, Right, that's

447
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Speaker 1: a cool thesis. If I were on his his board

448
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Speaker 1: or whomever approved him, I would think this guy's you know,

449
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Oh, but this guy is cool, right,

450
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to take your class. Well, yeah, it's

451
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: certainly a out of the box way of thinking, or

452
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Speaker 1: maybe just an ancient way of thinking, right, perhaps, Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: So let's look at how it measures up. Chijevski ultimately says,

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Speaker 1: the regular occurrence of historical events of history repeat itself

455
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Speaker 1: can be linked to the Sun's cycle, which is about

456
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Speaker 1: eleven years eleven year ish, and that's the periodic change

457
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Speaker 1: in solar activity, measured by things like you mentioned, Matt,

458
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Speaker 1: like the number of sun spots, the changing levels of

459
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Speaker 1: solar radiation and so on. So this guy went back

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Speaker 1: through history. He started at the fifth century b c e.

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Speaker 1: And went all the way up to nineteen fourteen, and

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Speaker 1: from that, during that time period, he divides human history

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Speaker 1: into eleven year cycles, kind of following the sun. And

464
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Speaker 1: then he further divides each of those eleven year cycles

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Speaker 1: into four periods, and he attempts to create a predictive

466
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Speaker 1: model of what happens. So this is way he came

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Speaker 1: up with. Uh. This notion of minimum excitability, which according

468
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Speaker 1: to Tajetski u last for three years and is characterized

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Speaker 1: by indifference of the masses to political matters. And when

470
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Speaker 1: the masses humanity uh and autocratic rule by a minority

471
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Speaker 1: is fascinating stuff. Um. This concept of the growth of excitability.

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Speaker 1: The second period that lasts for two years and is

473
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Speaker 1: marked by the emergence of new ideas and the agitation

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Speaker 1: of the masses. Oh yeah, well, guess what. Now you've

475
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Speaker 1: got maximum excitability. This is the climactic moments when you've

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Speaker 1: been waiting for. And in this period it's about again,

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Speaker 1: according to Jajefski, about three years long. And in this

478
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Speaker 1: you see the real bad stuff go down, revolts, revolutions, insurrections,

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Speaker 1: the stuff that societies are torn down from and built

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Speaker 1: up from. Yes um and and this is you know,

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Speaker 1: at least according to the research here, this third period

482
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Speaker 1: corresponds to this peak of the solar cycle, the Sun's cycle.

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Speaker 1: And when you you know, when you see this, as

484
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Speaker 1: we said before, you're going to see more sun spots,

485
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Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna see more coronal mass ejections, more

486
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Speaker 1: solar flares, and this is that that solar cycle. We

487
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Speaker 1: just have to jump in here really quickly and say

488
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Speaker 1: the solar cycles are an accepted thing. They are really

489
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Speaker 1: the solar cycle itself is a real thing. We're on

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Speaker 1: solar cycle four, we're going into five, and we count

491
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Speaker 1: them starting from sevent again. Space weather dot com, Matt,

492
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: you need to get sponsored by this website. I think

493
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start working there soon. I think you should, Um,

494
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Speaker 1: But we don't want to lose you, So can you

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Speaker 1: just moon right there on the side, just for your

496
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Speaker 1: own personal Oh gosh, sorry, I stepped right into that one.

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of um And then maybe I don't

498
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Speaker 1: want to sound like I'm being down on it, but

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Speaker 1: it sounds like he's doing the thing that like you know,

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Speaker 1: medieval um doctors did, or they lined up like the

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Speaker 1: humors and the levels of various like bile and people's

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Speaker 1: body with like different types of maladies. You know, this

503
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Speaker 1: seems that kind of imprecise, sort of like conjecture where

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Speaker 1: you're almost like, uh, sort of a loose connection of

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Speaker 1: a real concept with this idea of a thing that's

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Speaker 1: connected to it, with it with a little bit lacking

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Speaker 1: in uh, real hard science to back it up. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't. It may feel that way, but we've only

509
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Speaker 1: just begun. That's fair. I have some Yeah, I I

510
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Speaker 1: personally have some reservations there, but like to finish this

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Speaker 1: cycle because we only made it to the three. The

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Speaker 1: fourth one is the final period, three years of decreasing excitability.

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Speaker 1: This is, again, to Jejeffsky, is characterized by an increasing

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Speaker 1: apathy amongst the masses and a tendency toward peace. Now

515
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Speaker 1: it isn't. Yeah. It's important to note, though, that he

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Speaker 1: did not claim humans were mentally enslaved to the sun.

517
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Speaker 1: I fell in love with this phrase, like humans, this

518
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: concept of humans being enslaved by the sun, so I

519
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: used it way too often working on this. Instead, he says,

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Speaker 1: the sun influences people. Here's the vagary. You'll love to

521
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: do something and It just happened that the bloodthirsty or

522
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: lords of the past, and the bloody solutions they proposed

523
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: to whatever problem they had were just, you know, time

524
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: and time again, the path at least resistance. They were

525
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do. What are you gonna ask

526
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: people to vote? Nobody's got time for that. Let's kill

527
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Speaker 1: some people. Sure, remind me to bring up projection theory later. Yes,

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Speaker 1: somebody say projection theory before this episode ends, are all forget.

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Speaker 1: I'll make you no promises, but I will do my

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Speaker 1: very best. I I do promise, don't get there. I'll

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Speaker 1: make sure that this does not go on said projections

532
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, hey man, we have those projections and

533
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Speaker 1: I'll go You have theories, you know, all into it.

534
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: So okay, So that's the idea. You can see, you

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Speaker 1: can see that it is as you said, Matt in evade.

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Speaker 1: If we can also see that just from how we've

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Speaker 1: explained it now, it leaves a lot to be desired

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Speaker 1: if we're looking at it through the lens of science.

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Speaker 1: So we have to ask ourselves, is it true. We're

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Speaker 1: going to kind of answer this question after a word

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Speaker 1: from our sponsors, and we have returned all right spoiler alert.

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Speaker 1: During his lifetime, Chajevski was unable to scientifically prove any

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Speaker 1: link between large scale human activity and the cycles of

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Speaker 1: the sun. However, he was able to, at least when

545
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: he was charting it out, map some really compelling connections there.

546
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: At the time, it was, I mean, it felt compelling

547
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: to me. But again, it's just taking two variables or

548
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: two things and just putting it side to side, similar

549
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: to what Noel was saying there. But when you're maybe

550
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: if you're in it or you're close enough to it,

551
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: the whole thing just feels like, oh, this connects here,

552
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: Oh this makes sense. What makes me think of the

553
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: way people like put so much emphasis on the zodiac.

554
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: When you look at it, there are a lot of

555
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: really interesting connections with personality types and things that associated

556
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Speaker 1: with certain signs. But is it just kind of know,

557
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying then, Like, I mean, I

558
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Speaker 1: I have had people present to me, oh, this sign

559
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: is like this, and you're right, my friend Steve is

560
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: exactly that way, you know, like or whatever, Virgo or

561
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: what have you. Um, it's when you're painting with broad

562
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: enough strokes, there's going to be some synchronicities, as I think,

563
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: is what's going on kind of here. You know, Yeah,

564
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some flak for this, But I at

565
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: one time had a gig writing horoscopes entirely. I wanted

566
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Speaker 1: to write features for this outfit, but they asked me

567
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Speaker 1: if I believed in horoscopes. I said not really, and

568
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: so they hired me to write the horoscope section. That's smart, Well,

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00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: I guess, but you know, I would read. I would

570
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Speaker 1: rate astrology in the realm of person beliefs. Believe the

571
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: world is tough, it's cold, you gotta bring your own heat,

572
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: you gotta bring your own light. In a lot of

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00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: figurative ways. So whatever it takes to get you from

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Speaker 1: one day to the next. According to to my horoscope

575
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: app that I recently downloaded, is it is it just

576
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: a sun sign, because then it's all three of us?

577
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Speaker 1: Or did you put in like your time and your geography,

578
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: it's just costar and it's just it's yeah, it's got

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Speaker 1: When I was born, which is a weird time, you guys,

580
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize I was born at a very weird

581
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: time in life. That was great at the very beginning.

582
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Speaker 1: That's so much promise now you were It is true

583
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Speaker 1: that you were born and infant. It's true, it says,

584
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: it says, I feel bighearted right now. I need to

585
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Speaker 1: give myself permission to spend time with my best friend

586
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: or partner. I need to show up for myself and

587
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: for others. That's it, okay, okay, well, h home, Yeah,

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00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: it's it's right up there with Uh. You're a fascinating

589
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: person because sometimes you want to do things and you

590
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: do them, and sometimes you want to do things and

591
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: you don't. WHOA. You like things that are likable and

592
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: dislike things that are disliked. You know what I'm now

593
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Speaker 1: in defensive astrology. I want to get us too derailed

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Speaker 1: here in defense of astrology and my close friends who

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00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: are strict adherents to that, to that system of belief

596
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: or interpretation, the common the common defense is going to

597
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: be something like, well, the astrology articles you read in

598
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: your local paper on a website are just going to

599
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 1: be the twelve basic sun signs, right, and they're gonna

600
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: come out once a month or once a week, and

601
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: they'll advise you from there and that. To get a

602
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: better understanding of this, one needs to do what you've

603
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 1: done Matt, which is look at like the specific uh

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Speaker 1: coordinates of where you were born on the planet, the

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Speaker 1: position of the other heavenly bodies, and then the exact

606
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Speaker 1: time of your birth. So I think got real specific,

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Speaker 1: didn't it. I read that I just got after I

608
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Speaker 1: drilled down that deep into exactly where I was born.

609
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little unfair because you're a

610
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: big hearted dude in general. You're like, you're a kind person.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to read the other one where

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Speaker 1: it says I'm having problems with with love and sexuality? Wow,

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Speaker 1: so they gave me. But you know, for people who

614
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Speaker 1: are fans of astrology, I would recommend UH if you

615
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: were interested in other astrological systems, checking out the Mayan horoscope.

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Speaker 1: Remember I used to have a program to do that,

617
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: and it was great because sometimes it would it would

618
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: just tell some people that they were cursed because they

619
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Speaker 1: were born on a bad day because in that particular

620
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: maybe it was Aztec, but in that particular Mesoamerican belief system,

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Speaker 1: there were no such things as accidents. So if you accidentally,

622
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, tripped and hurt somebody, then you would be

623
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Speaker 1: treated as though you had a purposely planned and attack them.

624
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: But anyway, and we still don't understand gravity. We don't

625
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Speaker 1: understand all gravity effects the human rain. So there may

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00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: be some infinitesimal gravitational pull in the developing brain based

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Speaker 1: on the positions of heavenly bodies that could alter the

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00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: personality in some way. That's my best scientific defense of astrology. Hey, well,

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Speaker 1: astrology in that in that way aside, let's talk about

630
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: this guy's research, because while he didn't, you know, he

631
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: wasn't able to really connect these two things, human behavior

632
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: and solar cycles in a concrete way. There's like people

633
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: haven't stopped attempting to make some kind of connection there, right,

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Speaker 1: decades after his death, and thanks for getting us back

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Speaker 1: on track. Sorry about that. Decades after his death, continuing

636
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Speaker 1: research shows that there may be some sand to at

637
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Speaker 1: least the bones of his ideas, the structure of it.

638
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: Uh there there may be there may be some uh,

639
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: some siding and roofing to the bungalow. And so neuroscientists

640
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: over to m n T have shown they can influence

641
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: people those moral decisions through the use of magnets. Magnets can,

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Speaker 1: as we know from any like h T, M S

643
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: or T C d S fans. We know that magnets

644
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: can disrupt parts of your brain, change the way it functions.

645
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: There's very compelling evidence that you can create the feeling

646
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: of being in the quote unquote zone through the use

647
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: of these kinds of stimulations electromagnetic simulation. It's probably still

648
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: under the realm of don't try this at home. I

649
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: got really close to you know, I I built one.

650
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: Uh it's which was dumb to do, but I stopped

651
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: using it because as there's fairly compelling evidence that has

652
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: damaging long term cognitive effects. Can you can be cool

653
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: for a short term, pretty smart and stuff, but then

654
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: twenty years later, who knows anyway, So we know we

655
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: know that's true. We know that what what that proved

656
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: to us is that electro magnetic processes can affect the

657
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: human mind. So at least one assumption of this guy

658
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: seems valid. Well, and as we have discussed previously on

659
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: this show, when you're thinking about the magnetosphere, the the

660
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: essentially the way the Earth functions as a giant dipole magnet,

661
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's bigger than that, it's it's

662
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: more complex than that. But if you look at it,

663
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: the the actual magnetics of what the Earth is generating,

664
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Speaker 1: and then how that it gets gets affected by solar

665
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: wind and the Sun itself and everything. Where the magnetosphere

666
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: can change shape, where it can have there could be

667
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: less shielding essentially, and or more shielding depending on what's occurring.

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00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: If that t DCS, you know, connection with the human

669
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: brain is there, I could totally see how there would

670
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: be a connection there. Maybe it's just not as solid

671
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: as should Sky was was hoping. Yeah, it doesn't go

672
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: all the way to proving what he said that that

673
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: essentially that war is a natural cyclical process, just like

674
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Speaker 1: a sun cycle. That's what he said. And that's a lot.

675
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Speaker 1: But what what we do know is that we have,

676
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Speaker 1: years after his death, we have proven that electromagnetic magnetic

677
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: activity can affect the human mind. Let's introduce another character,

678
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: a guy named Abraham liebof Yeah, he was a professor

679
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: at Oakland University in the physics department, and he had

680
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: been studying the effects of electromagnetism on human health since

681
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: the late nineteen sixties. UM So what he does is

682
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: he studies tiny magnetic fields that are generated by people

683
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: that are capable of being affected by these extremely low

684
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: frequency electromagnetic fields e l F's elves elves elves, and

685
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: these are extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields in people's environments.

686
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: They can pick up or disturbances in the Earth's magnetic field.

687
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: And he's done experiments on how these disturbances might affect

688
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: social behavior as well. Yeah, yeah, so here's here's what

689
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: his theory is. He's created this electro magnetic theory of consciousness,

690
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: and similar to Chaijevski, he says, okay, consciousness is a

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00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: product of these small magnetic fields that are generated by

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Speaker 1: neurnal flows in the brain. He says that this magnetic

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00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: field is probably minuscule. It's on it's around like a

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Speaker 1: hundred nano tesla, which without getting two in the weeds,

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00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: just so you know, is very We're talking very small time,

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Speaker 1: very very small time. Smaller than a micro machines version

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Speaker 1: of a tesla, smaller than a bread box, right still.

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about bread boxes, but it's smaller.

699
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: I think he's designed to hold us single loaf of bread.

700
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: Here we go. It's basically a bread case. But you

701
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: can make loaves of so many sizes. You know, your

702
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: standard loaf size, standard loaf size the kindly he filed

703
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: away in the in the grocery store. So he says,

704
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: given that billions of these interactions can be happening in

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00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: the brain any time, it could produce a larger electric field.

706
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Like all all these tiny things could add up to

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00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: something larger. And if this larger field is the sum

708
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: total of all the fields generated by all neuronal activity

709
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: in the brain at a given moment, then maybe that

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00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: is what consciousness is. Maybe it's just the interaction and

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00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: the collaboration of these different, tiny, tiny magnetic fields. If

712
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: he yeah, if he is right, then that means that

713
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: these tiny electromagnetic fields generated by the brain are capable

714
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: of being influenced by other alpha extremely low frequency fields

715
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: such as this is spooky, such as those generated by

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00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: other people. Now this gets into mentalism. Is this gets

717
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: this gets away from what could be considered proven methodologies.

718
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: There are a lot of scientists that would have a

719
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: problem with this next idea. What he's saying is that

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00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: these the interaction of these fields between what are different

721
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: human beings, uh, could could lead to them having effects

722
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: that we don't really understand on one another. So in

723
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: situations where the two people really close to each other,

724
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: like when a child is in its mother's womb, or

725
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: when two people are having intercourse their fields, their magnetic

726
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: brain fields, their consciousness. Things might be interacting kind of

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00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: bumper carring indi one another, and there is something kind

728
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: of beautiful about that about you know, brain magnet powers

729
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: bringing us together. Let's go a step further. If that

730
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Speaker 1: is true, and a lot of ifs we're adding up.

731
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: Ifs here, then the interaction between earth geomagnetic field and

732
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: the electromagnetic field of the Sun could affect the way

733
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: ions interact with biological entities, meaning that it could also

734
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: possibly influence their behavior. The breen magnets just get bigger,

735
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: is what he's saying. Or the magnets get bigger, and

736
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: then the massive magnets doing the same thing as as

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00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: two people bumper carring into each other. Yeah, it's the

738
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Speaker 1: the Sun and Earth just sort of having intimate moments

739
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: since we're family show, and then everything we call organic

740
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: life just happens to be in the same bed. Yeah,

741
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: and the moon is just like pesky roommate that's like, hey,

742
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: hey stopped, Oh come on, hey, he's where He's using

743
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: his arm to show us the orbit of the moon.

744
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: That's why I cant away talk and it comes around. Yeah,

745
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: I thought it always well done. So so what does

746
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: that mean? Does Lieboff then support Chijevski The answer my surprise. Yeah.

747
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: In an interview advice, he notes, quote, I'm not a

748
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: follower of Chijevski. I think of him as sort of

749
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: an amusing prelude to my present area of work. What

750
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying is amusing prelude for the first time, there

751
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: is a possibility of causation that goes along with this

752
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: great number of correlative information in terms of the effects

753
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: the sun has on living things. Maybe there's something there.

754
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: There's an increase in suicides as correlatable whistler activities, so

755
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: why not social unrest. So he's kind of saying, yeah,

756
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: jejeff Ski's He's all but saying Jeffsky is cute, But

757
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm the real scientist here, which I don't, you know,

758
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to detigrade anyone's work. Yeah, but there's

759
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: a difference between a chemist and an alchemist. Right, So

760
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: maybe that's maybe that's where he's coming from, the big

761
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: question where does this leave us? Now? Well, Reba, we

762
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: are currently at the very end of solar cycle twenty four.

763
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: As we said, solar cycles are numbered. Starting from seventeen

764
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: fifty five, we're gonna reach the solar minimum or we

765
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: have reached solar minimum around late. That means that solar

766
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: cycle twenty five is hitting the horizon near you very

767
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: very very soon. Uh. This will hit peak solar activity

768
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: sometime between twenty twenty three and twenty six. But cycle

769
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: seems set to have lower activity in general than preceding cycles.

770
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: In fact, the last four cycles, the last forty four

771
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: years ish, have exhibited a trend of weakening solar activity.

772
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: And as we know, things like people still gotten fights

773
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: across the planet over the last forty four years, in

774
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: great amounts of unrest in regions across the world. Right

775
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: over those forty four years. Think about what that on encompasses.

776
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean the sixties, the Cold War, Oh yeah, the

777
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: Cold War. Various violent coups developing world, South America, the

778
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: Middle East, they're just in the United States alone, like

779
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: the the terrible things that have occurred with an angry individual. Um,

780
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: let's just keep naming off horrible things that have happened.

781
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: Let's see, Uh, various violent coups in Western Subharan Africambe. Yeah, yeah,

782
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Harambe as well, maybe a little lower on the list

783
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: of terrible things. But no, no, no, we should keep it.

784
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Uh let's see, I mean, but there have been shining

785
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: moments in in the last forty four years to like, um,

786
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: the Master of Disguise. Yeah, just off the top of

787
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: my head. Police Academy four, there we go. See, you know,

788
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 1: don't give up on humanity yet. Was there a Police

789
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: Academy five or was four as deep as it went?

790
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: I you know, I wouldn't be surprised. Let's let's look

791
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: at that directive video. Maybe I just feel like, really,

792
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: as a as a genre, Police Academy for was the end?

793
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: Part of art is knowing when to put the brush down.

794
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: With that being said, Police Academy five Assignment Miami Beach

795
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: was released in I don't remember them going to Miami Beach. Yeah,

796
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, I stopped it four. I think the true

797
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: fans all stopped at four, right, right, So so here

798
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: we are. We we would assume then if this is

799
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: a predictive model, if the sun really is the they

800
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: and stuff they don't want you to know of this

801
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: episode and is conspiring to put humans on a doomed

802
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: cyclical path to war. Then we have to ask ourselves,

803
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: can we predict these activities right? These conflicts? Now again,

804
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: you'll notice in jejeff Ski's arguments he's purposefully being pretty general.

805
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: A detractors would say he's being uh, frustratingly vague. But

806
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: we also have to remember that solar forecasting is pretty new,

807
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: especially in comparison to daily weather forecast. And thank you,

808
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: of course to all the meteorologists in the audience. You

809
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: are doing a wonderful job. We know the weather system

810
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: is huge, globally interconnected and tricky. So I just don't

811
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: want to sound like I don't want to sound like

812
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: we're being rude to UH forecasters because they can't do

813
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: a thing that is currently impossible to do. It's like

814
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: a pilots can't really fly, you know that they get

815
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: in planes. That's right, as those planes that are flying,

816
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: those guys are just pulling levers. Yeah, they just they

817
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: just know how to operate incredibly sophisticated and dangerous machines,

818
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: hitting all those buttons and checking gauges, landing and taking

819
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: off and not killing people, doing quick mathematics that I

820
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: could never do in my entire life. Yeah, no, Lie,

821
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: I get anxiety seeing the films from the fifties and

822
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: sixties where there's one person back there who's in charge

823
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: of everything that like the three D position of the

824
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: plane relative to everything else, and they just have a pencil. Dude, Uh,

825
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: really quick tangential thing. And I know we're wrapping up here.

826
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: My son had to do He had to pick out

827
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: his favorite book and then dress up like a character

828
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: from his favorite book today at school. Um, do you

829
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: guys want to guess, like what character he chose. It's

830
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: it's almost tangential to this that we just said Superman. Okay, Okay,

831
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: Paul says, Pepper Pig Sun Raw Sun Raw Rat. That

832
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: would have been incredible. Okay. Okay, wait wait wait wait,

833
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about pilots, um pilots, pilots, famous pilots. Okay, Okay,

834
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: it's not Frank Abcneil Jr. Porco Rosso. Okay, it's not

835
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: Porco Rosso, Howard Hughes. It's not how Hard Hughes. It's

836
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: not Bluey did someone from Police Academy. It is Neil Armstrong.

837
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: His favorite book currently is one of these that's like

838
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: I am it's one of those books and Neil Armstrong

839
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: he loves it. He loves the concept of being an astronaut.

840
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: And today he put on his astronaut outfit and his

841
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: helmet and he went to school carrying his book and

842
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: told everybody about it was awesome. They hold it aloft

843
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: like you were just doing that's Are you guys gonna

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Speaker 1: let him eat space food? Oh yeah, he already had.

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Speaker 1: He's quite a bit. Oh yeah, there's some gross versions

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Speaker 1: of space food. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. The only

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Speaker 1: good one is the ice cream. That's the one that's

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Speaker 1: like the crowd favorite. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. We also stocked

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Speaker 1: up on m R. Rays here, we've got many. Um. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is amazing. And I I hope that he you

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Speaker 1: know what, I hope he's sticks with it. I hope

852
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Speaker 1: he becomes an astronauts. He's reaching for the stars. Man.

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Speaker 1: There we got the very least. He got us into

854
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Speaker 1: space camp. My dude is going to space. That's so cool.

855
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Speaker 1: So here's where we leave Alexander Seveski. His ideas did

856
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Speaker 1: not meet with very much support in his lifetime, to

857
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Speaker 1: say the least. In ninety two there was this guy

858
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Speaker 1: was a big deal in the USSR at the time

859
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Speaker 1: his name was Joseph Stalin heard of him, I think, yeah,

860
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Speaker 1: he's a real pill. He became aware of Jeff Ski's research,

861
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Speaker 1: including this book he published in called Physical Factors of

862
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Speaker 1: the Historical Process and more of a pamphlet an argument

863
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Speaker 1: uh and Stalin's people asked the scientist to retract his

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Speaker 1: writings on solar cycles. You see, they contradicted Soviet theories

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Speaker 1: about the reasons for the Russian revolutions, first in nineteen

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Speaker 1: o five and then in nineteen seventeen. Yeah, the politics

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Speaker 1: got in the way, just like with Galileo if you

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Speaker 1: think about it. So, the political climate of the U.

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Speaker 1: S s R was such that all of history had

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Speaker 1: to be portrayed as this inevitable, if slow, painful march

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Speaker 1: towards the ultimate eternal victory of the proletariat, toward the

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Speaker 1: worker's paradise. We like, history is over, we are at

873
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Speaker 1: the eternal present now right vero And arguing that this

874
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Speaker 1: was just another series of conflicts that weren't particularly special,

875
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Speaker 1: that they were dictated or influenced by nature, UH was

876
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: was first off very problematic and more heretical. The idea

877
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: that that meant these would inevitably happen again. We were

878
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: not done with war. We're just waiting on the sun

879
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: to be in a bad mood or in that this

880
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: proletariat paradise is just one next step, you know, there's

881
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: like they're an infinite number of steps after right, that's

882
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: a speech, and so, like Galileo, he refused to recant,

883
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: and he was arrested. He was hauled off to a

884
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: gulag for eight years. He was released in nineteen fifty

885
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: sort of. He was taking a Kazakhstan where he did

886
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Speaker 1: science and coal mines for eight years as a form

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Speaker 1: of Soviet rehabilitation. But now we're still you know, one

888
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Speaker 1: thing you said before we started recording today, matt um.

889
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Speaker 1: So we're very we're very much in the early days

890
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Speaker 1: of any research on this. I don't know, like what

891
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: what do you guys think, Like is this just a

892
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: case of cherry picking evidence? That's the thing that bothers me.

893
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: That's one of my reservations, Like how there are so

894
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Speaker 1: many wars, there's so many conflicts. Furthermore, there are so

895
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Speaker 1: many that perhaps this scientists would not have been aware

896
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: of at that time. It feels dangerously easy to go

897
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Speaker 1: back and just sort of kind of like you are

898
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: alluding to old just go back and kind of fit

899
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: in things that go with your confirmation bias. I'm gonna

900
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: put this out here, this connection between the Sun's activity

901
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: and humanity's brain patterns and our and you know what

902
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: we choose to do from a behavioral perspective. It's still

903
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: something that is very much in at least sections of

904
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: the scientific interest into inven there's a study it was

905
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Speaker 1: called Sunspot dynamics are Reflected in Human Physiology and path

906
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: of Physiology. And it's something you can read if you

907
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: go to the site that Ben and I I know

908
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: for sure and Noel go to every once in a a while.

909
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: It's the U s National Library of Medicine, National Institutes

910
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: of Health. You can find journals there and you can

911
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: read an abstract. UM I would say look into this

912
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: because it's trying. It's really weird. It took this huge

913
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: longitudinal study of pap smears and um I believe it

914
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: was self reported breathing and oxygen levels in males, and

915
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: it was just looking at within these solar minimums and

916
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Speaker 1: maximums whether or not there was any kind of change,

917
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: like if you're if you're looking at the some of

918
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: the scientific testing there the pap smears, like, we're what

919
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: were the rates of infectious diseases that were found during

920
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: the maximums versus during the minimums? And again it seems

921
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: like a good way to maybe make a connection. But

922
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: again it's like to data sets that don't necessarily have

923
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: anything to do with each other. And if you make

924
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: those correlations, then uh it perhaps it is just in

925
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: the eye of the researcher, just putting that out there.

926
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: But then again there was another one, UM, and this

927
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Speaker 1: one had to do with heart rates, just looking at

928
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: heart rates and these you know, the solar cycles. That one,

929
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: by the way, if you want to look for it

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00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: is long term study of heart rate variability responses to

931
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Speaker 1: changes in the solar and geomagnetic environment the tope UM.

932
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: But it's just and that was so just knowing that

933
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: even now this interest is still there in finding a

934
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: connection depending on what it is UM, And I'm very

935
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: much interested to see if something more concrete can be

936
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: established at some point in the near future. And what

937
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: if what if we get to a point where that

938
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: kind of that kind of correlation does have approvable causation,

939
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: how does that change the activity of the human species

940
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: on the planet do we have? You know what I

941
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: mean is are we realistically ever going to have a

942
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: a society where someone says, Okay, guys, you know, I

943
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: know we've had some religious or ideological disagreements, but we're

944
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: at like maximum excitability, so let's just hold off for

945
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: three years. Let's just let's just chill for three years,

946
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: and then let's come back and talk. I don't think

947
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: humans are capable of that, but if if science can

948
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: prove that, um, the bones of it are interesting enough

949
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: that we should continue research on this. We want to

950
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: hear from you. What do you think, folks? Is this

951
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: a case of cherry picking evidence and and mistaking correlation

952
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: for causation, or are we emotional slaves to the sun

953
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: our first god? Or or is it something in between?

954
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: Let us know. You can find us on Facebook, you

955
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter, you can find us on Instagram.

956
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: We are conspiracy stuff in many of those places. Conspiracy

957
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: stuff show on Instagram all if people want to check

958
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: out your exploits, where can they go? Oh, you can

959
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: go to Instagram if you wish and look me up

960
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: at how now Noel Brown and uh and Ben I

961
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: believe you've got some social handles that lead directly to

962
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: your individual self as well. That's true. Yes, you can

963
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: find this persona on Instagram at Ben Bowling like bowling

964
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: without a GM. You can find the same persona on

965
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: Twitter app Ben Bullen H s W tossed the ball

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Speaker 1: back to you. Uh, Matt f Yes, I don't have

967
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Speaker 1: any socials right now at the moment. I can't find them.

968
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Speaker 1: There there, there somewhere. I just can't find them. But

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Speaker 1: what I can tell you is that Steve Guttenberg is

970
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Speaker 1: very excited when about Police Academy eight, which maybe coming

971
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Speaker 1: to us at some point, guys. According to screen ran

972
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Speaker 1: dot com from he was getting all hyped up about

973
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Speaker 1: Police Academy eight. Maybe it was the six and two

974
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Speaker 1: others post Miami Beach. Yeah, there's one called under Siege.

975
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Speaker 1: I think that was six. You know, I've gotta I

976
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: gotta check the sun cycle before there is a lot

977
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: of new information for me. I really did just stick

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Speaker 1: with four. You know, I'm you know, well, Gutenberg's excited.

979
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but Police Academy for was divisive, and that's

980
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Speaker 1: what art should do. It looks yes, we gotta get

981
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: out of here and we do have together I would

982
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: say if there is gonna be another Police Academy, now

983
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: is the time for it to just like show up

984
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: on Netflix one day and everybody would go, hey, all right,

985
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: Sun made that happen. Maybe he's just the season for

986
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: a new police Academy. Because Police Academy seven Mission to Moscow.

987
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: That sounds somehow familiar. Oh so that's the real title.

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Speaker 1: That is. We have a we have a phone number

989
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Speaker 1: of people can call to to let us know about

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Speaker 1: everything from the Sun to Police Academy. Yeah, you can

991
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Speaker 1: call us at one eight three three std W Yes,

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Speaker 1: leave a message and we will will hear from you. Okay,

993
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna do something new on the show. Everybody. As

994
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Speaker 1: we're in here recording, I am going to check my

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Speaker 1: my app here and the latest message that has come

996
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: through on the wires is going to get played and

997
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Speaker 1: we're just going to react to it. Okay, is everybody

998
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: ready here? It is the latest message from you. Hey guys, Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how much time I have.

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Speaker 1: Um oh wait yeah it is three minutes. Um. I

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Speaker 1: was just wondering if you have any thoughts on big pharma,

1002
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: uh killing type one diabetics with rising influent prices. Thanks

1003
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Speaker 1: for all you do. I gotta go there. They're catching up. Uh. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: I'll keep listening now. To be fair, when we agreed

1005
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Speaker 1: to do this, we we made a pact with one

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Speaker 1: another that we would not listen to any of these

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Speaker 1: before we actually played them in the studio. So you're

1008
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Speaker 1: hearing this for the first time with us. Uh. It

1009
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Speaker 1: is true that pharmaceutical companies, at least in the West,

1010
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Speaker 1: are accelerating the prices of insul it. Yes, but you

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Speaker 1: know why is that? Is there something behind that? As

1012
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Speaker 1: our caller has insinuated there. We don't know it. Maybe

1013
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: it's something we can look into. Uh. And that is

1014
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Speaker 1: a reminder that what Ben just said, that's the first

1015
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Speaker 1: time we heard that. That was sent to us while

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Speaker 1: we were recording. And if you have any thoughts on

1017
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Speaker 1: the subjects of big pharma and fixing insulin prices, you

1018
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: can use our our final form of communication to get

1019
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Speaker 1: in touch with us. Send us a good old fashioned email.

1020
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Speaker 1: We are conspiracy at I Heart radio dot com. Whoa whoa,

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Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa projection theory. Projection guys, do you ever

1022
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Speaker 1: did you ever think that maybe? Uh, we and everything

1023
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Speaker 1: we believe is real, is actually just a projection from

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Speaker 1: the Sun. Uh, We're we're in this weird way three

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Speaker 1: dimensional projections of a two dimensional space or object that

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Speaker 1: is behind or a part of our sun. Totally okay,

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Speaker 1: cool because you can. You can read about that on

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Speaker 1: the internet right now. Stuff they don't want you to

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