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Speaker 1: up down Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces?

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty, right rights. The latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the guys who cover the teams. Rilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Slam the ground by foot of Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. I scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvc. Le'd start with a question, probably be

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Speaker 1: more for rhetorical question, because really I'll answer the question

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Speaker 1: for both of you. Off the top of Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 1: Here we go kill You really don't need us? Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're saying? Not right now? Okay, eventually when

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Speaker 1: I run out of things to say. Absolutely, and that's

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Speaker 1: coming real soon T minus eleven seconds or so after

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Speaker 1: I point out that maybe, just maybe on paper, we

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Speaker 1: can say, hey, it'd be great to pick up where

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Bills left off by scoring thirty one

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Speaker 1: points after the two minute warning? Is that realistic? You're

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Speaker 1: on Cardinals Underground that we can accomplish that? No, everybody, now, no,

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Speaker 1: So you know what the pressure The pressure is off

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Speaker 1: us here on Cardinals Underground, brought to you by Pacific

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Speaker 1: pencil Neck Darren Urban and Danny Serek. Well, it's like

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Speaker 1: we're continuing off the funeral already from the last podcast ball.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying the bar was raised to an impossible height,

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Speaker 1: got it? Especially as a find a minute of American

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Speaker 1: over here? There's no way. So you know what the

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Speaker 1: pressure's off. You're never gonna match what we just saw

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Speaker 1: in those four games, all decided on the final play

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Speaker 1: of every playoff game. Never before is there in a

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Speaker 1: weekend of playoff football like probably never again, and certainly

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Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think gonna happen over the next

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Speaker 1: sixty minutes. You're on Cardinals Underground. So once again the

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Speaker 1: pressure is off. Just play your game. You're not even

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Speaker 1: the shortest guy on this podcast. That's the shortest person. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, No, nobody, nobody was more overjoyed at the

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Speaker 1: measurements of Danny surret upon hiring based on the combine

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Speaker 1: than yours truly, So you know that with that, you

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Speaker 1: know what, it's all gravy after that, or a country

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Speaker 1: gravy as it just served at lunch. So either way,

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Speaker 1: you know, must come on. I mean, every game decided

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Speaker 1: on the final play. Four games decided by a total

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Speaker 1: of fifteen points. Think about the drama inherently right there.

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Speaker 1: Every single game ends on the final play. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what commission Roger Nell draws up. There doesn't yes,

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Speaker 1: he does that it's rigged or anything. I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it worked out perfectly. By the way,

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Speaker 1: did you guys know here's a trivia question, Danny, since

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Speaker 1: you're all over social media, okay, here we go, eighteen

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Speaker 1: to thirty four demo question. I'm profiling your age demo

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Speaker 1: with this question. Here we go. The most retweeted tweet

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Speaker 1: of the NFL weekend was do you know what? Do

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Speaker 1: you know what the metrics were? Like? Are you asking

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Speaker 1: who tweeted it? What was it about? I will say

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Speaker 1: it was a team account. One of the victorious teams

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Speaker 1: the one that read in caps with an exclamation point

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Speaker 1: at the end. That's a small victory for me, just

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Speaker 1: the use of the exclamation point, because Darren and I

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Speaker 1: have a long standing argument over how useful that piece

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Speaker 1: of punctuation is. It was all caps and it screamed

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Speaker 1: that's why you draft a kicker. And it was the

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Speaker 1: Bengals team account. There wasn't even a picture, there wasn't video.

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Speaker 1: It was just simply, that's why you drafted kicker. Exclamation

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Speaker 1: point boom, Right. I think I saw today like he

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Speaker 1: already has a rookie, like leads the franchise in most

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Speaker 1: says right here and this I don't have this knowledge.

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Speaker 1: He just says right here. That was Evan McPherson's eleventh

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Speaker 1: you see the Joe Burrow interview where he was talking

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Speaker 1: if you're Joe Burrow, that's saying a lot considering how

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Speaker 1: you name the AFC Pro Bowl quarterbacks the AFC Pro

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Speaker 1: this point there are two others, um that you may

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Speaker 1: especially this last weekend. Joe Burrow is not a Pro

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Speaker 1: I looked at it. I just and and it's Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: playoff master playoffs don't count, Paul, I get it. But

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Speaker 1: among the other rules changes, perhaps we should wait to

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Speaker 1: the very end of the year. And and somebody, by

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Speaker 1: the way, are we going to get into the overtime

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Speaker 1: rule change debate on this thing? Because you know, there's

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Speaker 1: two things I'm really not interested in discussing here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals on the ground. One would be the omission of

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Speaker 1: Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. We're not getting into that

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Speaker 1: did nothing. He's already in to the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: were guy, So you would like feel strongly about that.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, I don't really care. How about

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Speaker 1: the overtime rules though, Do you care about that? And

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Speaker 1: should they change? Darren? I think I know based on yeah,

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Speaker 1: I this might sound like a lame answer. I understand

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Speaker 1: want to see great football, you want to see bow

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Speaker 1: is a complimentary sport, right, So it's are we saying

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Speaker 1: the same way. Darren. Your defense still has to perform.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why I am okay with the overtime

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Speaker 1: rules as they are, is because if you want a chance,

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Speaker 1: your defense has to step up. And that's complimentary football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for me, I say two things. One I

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Speaker 1: got tweeted. I had said they don't need to change

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Speaker 1: the rules. Somebody said, but it was decided the game

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Speaker 1: was ended up being decided on a coin toss. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: it decided on a seventy five yard touchdown. Drive wasn't

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Speaker 1: we should get I mean, I just don't stop them.

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Speaker 1: I understand the coin flip obviously impacted things, but it's

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Speaker 1: That's number one. How about the other times? A couple

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Speaker 1: coin toss. It's determined before the game even begins. So

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Speaker 1: more examination. There's two tosses, correct, and so for example,

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Speaker 1: does overtime end? Because you can't say, well, then the

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Speaker 1: and then what the Chiefs get it back and if

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Speaker 1: Here's the other proposal that I think merits some consideration,

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Speaker 1: and it's one a for me, is you play a

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Speaker 1: full ten minutes. You just play the full ten minutes

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Speaker 1: of overtime, doesn't it's just another ten minutes. You play

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Speaker 1: And if it's tied after that, good point. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: do that in football? You can't, especially with seven days

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Speaker 1: done fine, not great, but fine. But because you're putting

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback in there, there actually have more flexibility

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Speaker 1: cap wise for the rest of that roster. The problem

429
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Speaker 1: with what the Rams are facing, what the Cardinals are

430
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Speaker 1: about to face with Kyler Murray, with what the Seahawks

431
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Speaker 1: have with Russell Wilson is you have this quarterback top

432
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Speaker 1: heavy salary cap situation and the Rams have it even

433
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Speaker 1: worse because Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey. Cooper Cup's gonna

434
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Speaker 1: have to get paid pretty soon too. I mean, at

435
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Speaker 1: some point you're gonna start leaking oil on your depth.

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Speaker 1: I would think, can I say something, By the way,

437
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Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want it to podcast, allowed

438
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Speaker 1: to talk. Tell okay, tell me, tell me if this

439
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Speaker 1: is this is accurate or not. When I see this

440
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Speaker 1: whole narrative about rookie contracts are all so very important

441
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Speaker 1: and almighty to building a championship caliber team. If you

442
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Speaker 1: look at the eight teams that were just in the

443
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Speaker 1: divisional round. How many teams had a quarterback on a

444
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Speaker 1: rookie contract. I count one, Okay, I count Cincinnati and

445
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. I count every other team. Seven out of

446
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Speaker 1: the eight has a quarterback on a massive contract. Okay,

447
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: Brady's contract is actually paying him less than it should so,

448
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: but it's still in the mid twenties, right, isn't he

449
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: getting twenty plus? Tom Brady? He's not getting New England

450
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: money anymore, but twenty five. I mean, the top quarterbacks

451
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Speaker 1: are getting over forty right now, Paul. That's a huge difference.

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Speaker 1: That's one quarterback, one quarterbacks getting over forty, all the

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Speaker 1: other ones are. I'm not even one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 1: Mahomes's contract the big part is kicked in yet, Okay,

455
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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure Josh Allen's big part hasn't quite

456
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 1: kicked in yet. They signed them, but the way they

457
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Speaker 1: are structured, that bought them another year too. I'd have

458
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Speaker 1: to look at that, but I'd be willing to argue that,

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Speaker 1: Uh well, who else we talk about? What? Tannehill doesn't

460
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Speaker 1: have a giant one because he's Tannehill. You know, Stafford

461
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Speaker 1: is on a big Contrafford. Stafford's got one. Jimmy g

462
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Speaker 1: is making low twenties. Again, you're you think that's it

463
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Speaker 1: is big for us, Danny, I'm sure would love to

464
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Speaker 1: make twenty five million dollars words in my mouth. Okay,

465
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Speaker 1: of course, Tim, you're paying too much. But Darren, I'm

466
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Speaker 1: not saying the extreme extreme thirty five forty million. I'm

467
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Speaker 1: saying from rookie too highly paid. That's something. There's one

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Speaker 1: rookie contract the last I see what you're seeing, I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But in fact, here's Andrew Brandt. Okay, former executive with

470
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Speaker 1: the Packers and sports business guy has his own sports

471
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Speaker 1: business master's course like at Villanova. Quote, it's a cop

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Speaker 1: out talking about this rookie contract thing. It's a cop out.

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Speaker 1: You have a two hundred million dollar payroll, plus thirty

474
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Speaker 1: million goes to your quarterback. You still have one hundred

475
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Speaker 1: seventy million for the rest of your team, half of

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Speaker 1: which are on rookie contracts. It's a cop out. That's

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Speaker 1: Andrew Brandon the idea that a large quarterback contract hinders

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Speaker 1: your team and it makes it a fatal flaw for

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Speaker 1: you to compete, and based on what we just saw

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Speaker 1: in the divisional round, that's not true. What I see

481
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Speaker 1: are good teams making good decisions on personnel and building

482
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Speaker 1: a team in a smart way. And you could argue

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Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have as much talent as anyone in

484
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Speaker 1: the NFL, and it was coaching it up to two

485
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: another incompetence that costs. That may be true. But the

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Speaker 1: argument about the rookie quarterback or rookie contract rookie quarterback

487
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Speaker 1: contracts is that it's like with anything else, I'm it's

488
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Speaker 1: not impossible to do it. Obviously, I'm not arguing it's

489
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Speaker 1: it's an advantage. I'm just saying it's not an absolute.

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Speaker 1: It's not just like there's so much an absolutely too

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Speaker 1: much is made of it, I guess, is what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying as a path to victory and and and success

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Speaker 1: when look at the last eight teams, every one of

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Speaker 1: them except the one has a non rookie quarterback on

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Speaker 1: a fairly large contract. That's all I'm saying. That's just

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Speaker 1: my one little ran about that. One day. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I buy into it as much, but we'll see,

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Speaker 1: I guess I see what you're saying. We also don't

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Speaker 1: know who's at the end in terms of who's who's

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Speaker 1: at the end of the playoffs. Oh, you're right, we'll

501
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Speaker 1: see who's standing apps. Absolutely. I mean, and look, the

502
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Speaker 1: NFC we mentioned some of the names can look very

503
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Speaker 1: different next year. The Niners can look very different with

504
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Speaker 1: Trey Lance. The Cardinals were the one team that got

505
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Speaker 1: the Trey Lance experience for four quarters this year, and

506
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Speaker 1: it took everything they had, including a goal line stop

507
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Speaker 1: by Isaiah Simmons and Tanner Valeo to stop Trey Lance

508
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Speaker 1: at the pylon right, otherwise Niners tie up that game. Uh,

509
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Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady is he going to stay in

510
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Speaker 1: Tampa obviously? You know you have other Sean Payton is

511
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Speaker 1: leaving the Saints. They were competitive to the final weekend.

512
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of other you know, uh issues,

513
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Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay. So the landscape,

514
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Speaker 1: Danny and the NFC con can look quite different next year. Yeah,

515
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Speaker 1: but I think that's also what makes it so exciting,

516
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Speaker 1: as right, of teams that are so great one year,

517
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Speaker 1: it doesn't guarantee even if you have a lot of

518
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Speaker 1: the same players are going to be as dominant. I mean,

519
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: look at the Bucks brought back every single starter. It's

520
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Speaker 1: just it's the way it plays out. I think it's

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Speaker 1: exciting to see that. I think the rams are really

522
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Speaker 1: interesting to me. Forty nine ers, well, honestly, this whole division, right,

523
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Speaker 1: what's what's Russell Wilson in Seattle going to do? And

524
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Speaker 1: then forty nine ers, Jimmy's not going anywhere? You heard

525
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: it here first, folks, Why would they get rid of him?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if, I mean, does he want to

527
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Speaker 1: stay it? It doesn't matter. He's not a free agent

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Speaker 1: and he has a no trade cause. I give it.

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Speaker 1: But but if he's going to be a problem behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, that's the only scenario, Darren I'm with. There

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Speaker 1: is no quarterback in world history that was more of

532
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Speaker 1: a pain in the ass behind the scenes. And Aaron

533
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Speaker 1: Rodgers last offseason, guys, it's probably true. He's still there

534
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: and he's still gonna be there. By the way, to

535
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Speaker 1: put a bow on this cap stuff, because Paul insists

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Speaker 1: that these super paid quarterbacks m Patrick mahomes cap number

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Speaker 1: this year a little over seven million dollars, this year's

538
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen cap number a little over ten, and he

539
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: only goes up to sixteen next year. Patrick Mahomes jumps

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Speaker 1: significantly next year, but again, there's a reason why they

541
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Speaker 1: got there is because they have tiny cap numbers. They've

542
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: they've screwed around with the now Josh Allen, he goes

543
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Speaker 1: from ten to sixteen to thirty nine fifty forty forty one.

544
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Speaker 1: So you're gonna tell me that that's not going to

545
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: have a significant impact on how they roster build. Whether

546
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: that's a cop out or not, it absolutely makes a difference.

547
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: You had you go, Patrick Mahomes goes from seven and

548
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: a half cap number this year, thirty five million next year,

549
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: and forty sixty four six like next year, the Chief's

550
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: still gonna have Tyrn Matthew. Are they still going to

551
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: be able to afford Chris Jones Chris Jones, I mean,

552
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: this is this is what we talk about when we

553
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: talk about rookie contracts. Obviously, Mahomes has already signed an extension,

554
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Speaker 1: but when they signed an extension, they build in some

555
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So and you could do the same

556
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Speaker 1: with Kyler. But when Kyler Murray's cap number gets to

557
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: forty million dollars, that's gonna be a big difference on

558
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Speaker 1: this roster than when it's been sitting here at twelve

559
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: or fifteen, And do you expect any action on the

560
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray contract extension front this offseason. I mean, if

561
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Speaker 1: you're asking my opinion, I don't know anything is This

562
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: is my own speculation, but I think at this point, frankly,

563
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. I would think to execute an

564
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Speaker 1: extension at this point. The extension that I I don't

565
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Speaker 1: know for a fact, but I'm willing to spend a

566
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Speaker 1: lot of my life savings wagering that Kyler Murray is

567
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Speaker 1: going to want one of those top contracts. He's not

568
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Speaker 1: taking a Tom Brady discount. He's gonna want the Patrick

569
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Speaker 1: Mahomes Josh Allen extension. And if the way he played

570
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: in that playoff game, I don't I don't know if

571
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Speaker 1: that's coming at this point. Not Why when you're the

572
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Cardinals and he still has one year left on his deal,

573
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Speaker 1: and I would think inevitably by the time we get

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Speaker 1: to May, they will extend that fifty year option, which

575
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Speaker 1: they have, so in theory, they still have two more

576
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Speaker 1: years of control over him before an extension. Now we

577
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: can talk all day about what that means and whether

578
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Speaker 1: he starts getting upset because he doesn't have an extension

579
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. That's always a possibility when it

580
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: comes to this kind of stuff. But I would think

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00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: at this point it's wait and see because of what happened.

582
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reality of it, guys, right, I mean, Danny,

583
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: you see what happens down the stretch, You see what

584
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Speaker 1: happened in the playoff game. I would not be surprised

585
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: if there's hesitation. I would agree with you one hundred percent.

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00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: I would feel the same way again, speculate, right, not

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Speaker 1: even I would say speculation. I'll want to know my

588
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: own opinion of to me, it would make the most

589
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: sense if you do anything this offseason, it would be

590
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Speaker 1: pick up that fifth year, protect yourself another year before

591
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Speaker 1: you decide if you want to or how much you

592
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: want to do for a big extension on that front.

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Speaker 1: And I think that too, is a great way to

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Speaker 1: kind of light a fire under somebody of and they

595
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: did that all the time, not just but with coaches too,

596
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: And that's I would agree to me, that seems fair

597
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: based on the slide this year and the fact that

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Speaker 1: that not being the first time you want to you know,

599
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Speaker 1: if you're going to Ason want to be a franchise quarterback,

600
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Speaker 1: you want to be able to lead you through the

601
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: tough times as well. I mean, this is what I mean,

602
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: you went through it. This is what Dallas went through

603
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott is like, do we give him the

604
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Speaker 1: big money? Do we give him the big money? Do

605
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: we give him the big money? I mean this was

606
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: a storyline for what two years in Dallas? Yeah, I

607
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: mean Zeke two, I mean different not quarterbacks, but yeah,

608
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: but this team whipped on David Johnson. They whipped on

609
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Speaker 1: Zeke and let's face it, well, well we will see

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Speaker 1: what happens. But the Titans could find out very quickly

611
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: that they whipped on Derrick Henry, which is a fascinating

612
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: big picture look at what running backs get. Considering this

613
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Speaker 1: team has two running backs. You know, Lamar Jackson is

614
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Speaker 1: going to be going into his fifth year option in

615
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Lamar Jackson does. He does not have

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Speaker 1: a contract extension, which I find intriguing. Now, there's plenty

617
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Speaker 1: of speculation that team Lamar wants it absolutely this offseason,

618
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: but he's yet to get it. And the way he

619
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Speaker 1: finished up and he wasn't healthy obviously, and what does

620
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Speaker 1: he still have to prove? Now? I linked Lamar and

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Speaker 1: also Josh Allen to a small degree, and their playoff

622
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: debuts were miserable, especially Lamar Jackson. His first ever playoff

623
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: game was horrendous, paid Manny's first ever playoff game awful. So,

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00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, so was his third playoff game. So you know, maybe,

625
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: and we talked about this, you know, maybe there's something

626
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: there and that Kyler can build some confidence off of that.

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00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: It's not the first time that a young quarterback in

628
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: his playoff debut as obviously wilted big time in the

629
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Speaker 1: spotlight on the big stage. But considering that performance leaving

630
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: a bad taste in everyone's mouth, most especially the quarterback himself,

631
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Speaker 1: you hope that'll fuel him and motivate him in the

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00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: off season. No, I don't expect him to get a

633
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: contract extension throughout twenty twenty two, which will be his

634
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: fourth year. And if he is a little peeved by

635
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: that and it does become a motivating factor, all the better.

636
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's more ROI for the Arizona Cardinals and

637
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: the team in general return on investment. If Kyler Murray

638
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: is playing for the next MEGA contract and it's not

639
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: automatically handed to him in a foregone conclusion, and if

640
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: that's something that's a driving force, you know, so be it.

641
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: Use it as a driving force. You know. I would

642
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: go on that mindset of, Okay, you guys want me

643
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: to prove to you that i'd dead. Okay, I'll go

644
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: out all my best year. I'll prove to you why

645
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: I deserve that great use a tier advantage. Well, and

646
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons. It's that it's not apples

647
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: to apples, obviously, But that's one of the reasons I

648
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: appreciated what Jordan Hicks did this year so much. Was

649
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, obviously he wasn't playing for an extension as

650
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: much as he was playing for a job and and

651
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: playing to prove himself. But he did. He took he

652
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: took some disrespect, and I see, I don't the reason

653
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: it's not apples to apples to me is to me

654
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: at this point, it's not disrespect. If Kyler doesn't quite

655
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: get his extension yet, it's not like they don't him

656
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: as that guy. They're just not giving it to him yet,

657
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: as opposed to if you're Jordan Hicks who signed his

658
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: contract then was asked to take a pay cut, then

659
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: was told you weren't even going to play enough to

660
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: make up some of the money with incentives, and he

661
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: still had to fight his way in the field. So

662
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: I think there was more going against Hicks, but like

663
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: for him to handle it that way, I think it's

664
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: a it's a good way. I mean locally, Uh, I

665
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: don't know how much Sons you're watching these days, Danny.

666
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: You're probably a big Mavericks fan, probably Luca Done. Probably.

667
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh honestly, I'm not like a massive I'll watch NBA.

668
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan that was. But obviously, well,

669
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: sometimes you're gonna get attacked on this show, and you

670
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: got to defend yourself, Danny, especially when it comes to

671
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: the NBA, and yeah, you'll get earhold before you know it.

672
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: But uh, but DeAndre Ayton's in that same boat, right, Paul.

673
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, everybody assumed he was going to get

674
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: this contract extension and he didn't get it. And look,

675
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: a quick word on that, and you can extrapolate it

676
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: to any big name extrapolate. That's a good one. I'm

677
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: writing that down number one draft pick. But when that

678
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: player's own team doesn't extend that player, that's telling because

679
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: they have to have better knowledge of their own player

680
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: than anyone what do they know behind the scenes that

681
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: we don't know or we don't see, we don't witness

682
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: they if they're not investing in him, why not Once

683
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: upon a time the Sons didn't invest in a Mari

684
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: stotomy are five years, one hundred million, and you know what,

685
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: they were right. They knew his knees better than Amar's

686
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: agent did, and sure enough he made it maybe a

687
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. He was never the same player. He

688
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: was a good and so you know when the Sons

689
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: make that call on their own player, well, okay, you

690
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: better know your player better than anyone else, because if

691
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: he goes somewhere else and excels. I mean, look at

692
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: Robbie Ray. Robbie Ray left the Arizona Diamondbacks and want

693
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: to sigh young the very next year ouch, I mean

694
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: that that is so painful that you couldn't get a

695
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: guy right in the first the moment he goes to

696
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: another team and he's the best pick sure in the

697
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: American League. So that's where that's where you have to

698
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: self evaluate your own organization. In my opinion, when stuff

699
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: like that happens, when a player gets out, it gets

700
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: away from you and excels somewhere else. What does that say?

701
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: What does that mean? And I also use that as

702
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: a leading to Kyler Murray. You know, Lamar Jackson made adjustments. Obviously,

703
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I'm just ridiculous the numbers. I mean, in

704
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: his two playoff games, Josh Allen was forty eight to

705
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: sixty two for six hundred and thirty seven yards. He

706
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: had nine touchdown passes, no picks, a passer rating of

707
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: one forty nine. And if you go back to his

708
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: playoff debut, his passer rating was in the sixties. He

709
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: had no touchdown passes. So obviously he has involved. He

710
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: has improved mightily. So what is on Kyler's checklist this offseason?

711
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: How do you do that? Because that is the question

712
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: I think that everyone is wondering. Is is Kyler capable

713
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: of that? I would like to be able to watch

714
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: Kyler lead this team to an amazing comeback win. I

715
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: thought that there were plenty of games where they came close,

716
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: but I feel like in those clutch moments it was

717
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: obviously the interception, which whether or not you want to

718
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: put that all on Kyler or not penalties, I just

719
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: feel like this team needs to be better and maybe

720
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: that's also mentally of counting themselves out of This team

721
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: played so well when they had the lead, and I

722
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: feel like they looked really different when they didn't. And

723
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was lack of confidence or

724
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: feeling pressured or anything like that, but I would like

725
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: to see Kyler lead this team to come back wins

726
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: or to elevate maybe some of those players who are

727
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: stepping up, filling in if somebody gets hurt, things of

728
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: that nature, like Antoine Wesley. I feel like that was

729
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: a couple of games we saw him. I feel like

730
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen maybe him help

731
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: those players evolve a little more in those new roles.

732
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's all I can really see.

733
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: If I'm not on in the locker room. I don't

734
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: know what kind of like leadership intangibles are or aren't there,

735
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: but at least on the field stuff, that's kind of

736
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: what I want to see is more of that. Everyone

737
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: has their own leadership style, but more of that getting

738
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: the team together, rallying them, believing in themselves until the

739
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: very end of the game. That's at least what I

740
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: would like to see more of. Yeah, Kyler Murray, who

741
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: wins despite the personnel. Doesn't matter what names are out there,

742
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: you're still finding a way to hit eight different receivers.

743
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady won a game down the stretch in December

744
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: with a game winning touchdown passed to Cyril Grayson, who

745
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: just unknown. So you'd love to see that now. It

746
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: happened in Dallas. He connected twice with Antoine Wesley, and

747
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: that was great. But that also leads into my next observation,

748
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: and it's merely an observation. I'm not about the xes

749
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: and os, but I do wonder how is he against

750
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: some of those defensive coverages he saw in the last

751
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: month and a half. Dallas is primarily a man cover team.

752
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: To my eyeball and untrained, I see a lot of

753
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: man cover teams that Kyler enjoys throwing against. It's the

754
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: zone cover teams that rush four and drop seven, rush

755
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: three and drop eight and flood the field in his

756
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: zone coverage. That's where he tends to hold onto the

757
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: ball too long, which we saw a lot of in

758
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: the final games of this season. Those are some of

759
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: the things that then, combined with the New York Times article,

760
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: which obviously has gotten a lot of play, that quote

761
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: about how he's not exactly the most ardent film watcher,

762
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: and so those are things that I would think correlate

763
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: into and improve Kyler Murray in two twenty two, and

764
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's hearing some of that behind the scenes,

765
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: and will he hear that from a different quarterback coach.

766
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't expect a change at head coach. I don't

767
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: expect an OC to be brought in. I've done a

768
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: number of these talk shows around town, and these are

769
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: some of the value added editions that people are giving

770
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: free advice and how to improve the Cardinals. I don't

771
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: expect any of those story of changes. But I do wonder,

772
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: especially if Colt McCoy doesn't come back, if there will

773
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: be a veteran established quarterbacks coach that could come in

774
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: lead a different perspective and or voice to that room.

775
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: I wonder, I feel when it comes to that, and

776
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about that either, I would I'm

777
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: going to doubt that. I would think that there's actually

778
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: more chance to bring in an OC than bring in

779
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: a different quarterbacks coach. They just promoted Cam Turner to

780
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: that last year. He's got a good relationship with Kyler Murray,

781
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you're gonna mess with that

782
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: at this point. Now, I'm not saying if they brought

783
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: in an OC it would be some guy who's doing

784
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: all the things Cliff is doing. I wouldn't think that

785
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: it would just be another body in that realm, which

786
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: they had once upon a time upon Cliffs hiring Tom,

787
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: who was the older Tom Tom Clement right, they had

788
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: that position. They sort of just he retired and that

789
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: position was never filled. No, it was never filled. So

790
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: I you know, and I don't know. Again, I don't

791
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. I don't know if there's

792
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: going to be any staff changes. I mean, you know,

793
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: does Vance Joseph have a chance to be a head

794
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: coach somewhere because obviously on the defensive side, that would

795
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: obviously impact some stuff. But I just I don't know

796
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: if there's going to be those changes, or how much

797
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: of those changes Kyler, or or is it is it

798
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: something that's got to come within him to get to

799
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: where he needs to be. Obviously something is missing at

800
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: this point when it comes to how he's going, because

801
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't make other a lot of sense. I mean,

802
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: we could really put our finger on it at the

803
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty. I mean, it was clearly he

804
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: was banged up and it was costing him stuff. And

805
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: I just for all the things that I agree with

806
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: everything that you guys have said, there's also a small

807
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: part of me that says, I think they've got they've

808
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: got to figure out tan ly. To me, this the

809
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Kyler running thing that really hit home in a certain

810
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: way the way Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes did it

811
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: in their game. Now, both those two guys did it

812
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: completely differently. And I was listening to some local talk

813
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: radio and they're talking about, see these guys are running

814
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: all of the Patrick Mahomes the only running he did

815
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: was literally off broken pass place. Everything was a scramp, organic,

816
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: it was nothing was planned out. Josh Allen runs planned

817
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't think you can do a lot of that

818
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: truly with Kyler, but I think you need to invest

819
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: You investigate it a little bit more than you did.

820
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: You've got to find a happy medium. I judging by

821
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 1: this thing is that Kyler said, judging by how Cliff

822
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: has said some things, I truly believe that the coaches

823
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind running him a little bit more. And I

824
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: don't think Kyler wants anything to do with it, because

825
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: I think he knows he can get hurt, and I

826
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: don't blame him for that, but I feel like there

827
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: needs to be a happy medium about him running the

828
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: ball and also slash. And I felt like we had

829
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: gotten pass this by the end of his rookie year,

830
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: and it felt like it flared up at the end

831
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: of the year, the whole scrambling thing, like he slipped

832
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: back this season later in the season, of the whole

833
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: running backwards and taking ten yard sacks, twelve yard sacks.

834
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: We saw that all over the places first half of

835
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: his rookie year, and then he managed to wean off

836
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: of that, and I'm like, okay, and then he went

837
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: he got he's back to it, and I'm like, just

838
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: fall down. If you think you're gonna get sacked, take

839
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: the two yards sack and move on or throw it away.

840
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: I'll give you two quick thoughts on that. Number One,

841
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: what the Cardinals did with Colt McCoy in those three games.

842
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: A lot more of cold under center, yeah, a lot

843
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: more quick passes. I'd love to see more of Kyler

844
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: in that role, not exclusively, yeah, but at least more

845
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: to keep the defense honest. Different look in that regard.

846
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: And then number two, if it's all about the quarterback,

847
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: and it is all about the quarterback, then can you

848
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: put a value on making the quarterback comfortable inconfident? And

849
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then isn't your most urgent offseason

850
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: need bolstering the offensive line when you're in a division

851
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald, who single handedly you could argue, delivered

852
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: two wins through the Rams against the Cardinals just based

853
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: on what he did to Kyler Murray, the fifteen quarterback pressures,

854
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: the three sacks in Week fourteen, and then in a

855
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: playoff game, I personally think Kyler was still freaked out

856
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: by looking at ninety nine lining up over some backup

857
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: offensive linement up front, and then you look at how

858
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: did the Niners to your point, Daron beat Green Bay

859
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: at Lambeaux. Well, from what I saw, Nick Bose had

860
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: two sacks, Eric Armstead had two sacks. They made Aaron

861
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: Rodgers uncomfortable much of that game. So you're in a

862
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: pretty fierce division. Seattle beat the Cardinals in Week eighteen,

863
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: how with five sacks of Kyler Murray. They don't have

864
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: any Marquis pass rushers of Seahawks, but they got to

865
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And so I wonder if the Cardinal's most

866
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: urgent need this offseason is an offensive line just to

867
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: try and build the confidence and comfortable comfortability factor of

868
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback next year. I wonder of not only how

869
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: the regular season ended, but just that one playoff game

870
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: and how poorly this team played, is that going to

871
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: spark significant changes had it been a close playoff game,

872
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: right of Cardinals were in it to the last second.

873
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: Because of how they lost, paired with how the regular

874
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: season ended, you think there's going to be these changes

875
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about big, you know, try and completely change

876
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: so things are different because of how they lost. Well,

877
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: it's a valid question. It is the thing about the offense.

878
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: I agree with the offensive line. I do think he

879
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. I feel like the Seahawks game was. I mean,

880
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: to me, that was less about the pass rush and

881
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: more about what you were saying about being uncomfortable against

882
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: his own because that was the game. I felt like

883
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: the sacks were coming because he was holding the ball

884
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: too much. Coverage sacks. Okay, so I don't know how

885
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: much to do it, but fair enough, here's here's the deal.

886
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: The last I saw over thecap dot Com had the

887
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals projected with not a ton of cap room. Now again,

888
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: you can work with that all day, okay, but right

889
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: now they've they're projected with I think he had projected

890
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: with eight million dollars in cap space, not a lot.

891
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: And that's with all these free agents. So you know

892
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: the things you're you're benefiting from. You you got some

893
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: guys that had really low cap numbers last year that

894
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: are jumping significantly. In fact, you know what I have

895
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: it right here. De Hop goes from twelve and a

896
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: half to twenty five. J J. Watt goes from five

897
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: to almost sixteen, Buddha goes from almost eight to almost fifteen,

898
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: and Ronnie Hudson goes from essentially three to twelve and

899
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, so you're eating up a lot of

900
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: cap with those four guys that nothing's happening other than

901
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: they're in the next year of their contract. Now you

902
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: can do stuff with those guys. You could extend JJ

903
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: Watt and lower his cap number, you could, You could

904
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: do that with any of them. I don't, I don't.

905
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful, you know. One of the things

906
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: I did notice was that their dead money next year

907
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: is at this point pretty low. It's got to be

908
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: one of the lowest numbers that's been in forever. But

909
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: they've worked hard to get it that low, and it's

910
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: going to climb back up again when some of these

911
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: void years kick in and all this stuff. Rodney Hudson's

912
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: one of those guys that has got void years, so

913
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: when he's gone, he's gonna have some dead money against

914
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: the cap and all this stuff. So going back to

915
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: your original question, Danny, the amount of significant changes, I

916
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: don't know how many significant changes there can be. Maybe

917
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: not personal wise though, Okay, I'm just talking about all

918
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: these things we were saying of maybe not even just

919
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: offensive line, but of under center or what you're saying.

920
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: Is he going to really revisit how they do things? Yes,

921
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: that's my question. I mean, I think it's fair. But

922
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: this is a point that I've made a million times

923
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: on this podcast with every coach that's ever been here

924
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: with and the thing is this, I understand a certain

925
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: level that you have to adjust to a certain level,

926
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: but Cliff Kingsbury got hired because he did things a

927
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: certain way, and he's gotten to this point in his

928
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 1: career because he does things a certain way. There's only

929
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: so much change is going to happen. I don't know

930
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: if he's changed significantly, but I can tell you that

931
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: the first or second year he was here, and it

932
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: probably was the first, maybe right after he got hired,

933
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: he was doing his hour long sit down at the

934
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: owner's meetings, and it was in town, so there was

935
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot of media there and one of the questions

936
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: was about shotgun and Cliff Cliff was probably more open

937
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: in that session than he's been in anything else. But

938
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: Cliff Cliff was pretty clear about his philosophies. He doesn't

939
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't see the point of under center. Okay, somebody

940
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: said he actually said, and I'm paraphrasing, but he said

941
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: something along the lines of, I don't see what you

942
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: can't do in a shotgun that you would do under center,

943
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't. He thinks you can do everything in

944
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: shotgun as you do under center. So I don't. I

945
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: don't know. Like in that case, I know where Paul's

946
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: coming from, and he's not the first to suggest it,

947
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: and I actually agree with him in that regard, But

948
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if the coach sees it as a

949
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: necessary thing. You know, he's he's evolved in some other ways.

950
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: He's obviously used more two tight ends than he ever

951
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: thought he was going to coming in. But again, some

952
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: of it has to do with personnel. I you talk

953
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: about the offensive line, I think I don't know what's

954
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Christian Kirk. I think that maybe A J.

955
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: Green is on the fence depending on who who else

956
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: they can get in here. But you can't be in

957
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: a position if DeAndre Hopkins goes down and you're just

958
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: flailing in terms of a playmaker on offense as a receiver,

959
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: and I think that's where they were. You got to

960
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: figure out what you want to do with Rondale Moore.

961
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: If Rondale Moore is going to be exactly what it

962
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: was this year, you got to get a number two.

963
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: I think you might need to get a number two otherwise.

964
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: But if Kirk Kirk leaves, is he your slot guy?

965
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: Is he the new Christian Kirk? And then you need

966
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: somebody to do that those different things, I don't know.

967
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of personnel things that have

968
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: to be decided in addition to how you execute. Like

969
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: you said, and I think they kind of go together.

970
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: I need to see who their personnel is before I

971
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: start thinking they could be doing stuff. I mean, if

972
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: you don't have James Connor, I think you need, you

973
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: desperately need a big back, no doubt. You know. Wolf

974
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: made a pretty compelling case in the most recent Big

975
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Red Rage that things started going south when the Cardinals

976
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: lost Max Williams because Max Williams was a tight end

977
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: who wasn't a tell. Max Williams could line up in

978
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: a traditional tight end eleven personnel and you didn't know

979
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: if it was run or pass. Then Max Williams had

980
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: that ability to be an effective down blocker and paved

981
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: the way for James Connor chase Edmonds. He had also

982
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: keep modest down the seam and catch touchdown passes, which

983
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: he did quite a bit before he went down. And

984
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: that I think there's a lot of validity to that.

985
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: And that's another position both zach Ertz and Max Williams. Yep.

986
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: As far as Rondelle Moore goes, how can you not

987
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: watch Tyreek Hill and think, man, why can't Rondelle Moore

988
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: be a poor man's Tyreek Hill? And when I say that,

989
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: I mean just the way Kansas City deploys him just

990
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: the way they have him on these crossing routes. You know,

991
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean significant chunk down the field throws and they're

992
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: targeting him and and they're taking some deep shots to

993
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and just the separation he gets once the

994
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: ball is in the air, and then when the ball

995
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: is in his hands, if if he has any space

996
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: to work with, look out. And we know Rondel Moore

997
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: has some of these skills. No one's Tyreek Hill, but

998
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: you know Rondelmore has some of them, And so I'd

999
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: like when it comes to rethinking things in offense. Yeah,

1000
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: we can argue all the day about under center. Cha,

1001
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: I'd love to see a different, more enhanced role for

1002
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: a Rondale Moore who wasn't available obviously the last month

1003
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: plus of the season because of ankle injuries. And it

1004
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: turns out I think it was a lot worse than

1005
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: anyone light on And you know, maybe we would have

1006
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: seen a different Rondale More and a different offense, especially

1007
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: minus d Hop in December, that we never did. Yeah,

1008
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: maybe that that's part of the reason was first half

1009
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: of the season when we had d Hop. Maybe there's

1010
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: no need to necessarily test out Rondale more in that role,

1011
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: and then when you lost the hoop and Rondale was

1012
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: starting to get hurt, I mean, maybe it was just

1013
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not disagreeing that that's not a great idea,

1014
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: but maybe that was just something that logistically they hadn't

1015
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: thought of, and then by the time the time came,

1016
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: it was just not yeah, or they didn't want to

1017
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: put too much on his plate as a rookie. I

1018
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: don't know, that's a good question. Maybe you know, what

1019
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: do you make of the comments from the owner of

1020
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell after the Super Bowl event, Darren And this

1021
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: is via a Z Central when he said, anytime you

1022
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: see your direct competitors in the playoffs, so it should

1023
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: bother any football fan. It certainly bothers this one well,

1024
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: among other comments. I'll just say out of that old

1025
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: kurf fluffle that um he got that from the cardinal's

1026
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: trip to London in twenty seventeen. That's a big word

1027
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: over there, kurfuffle. I would uh, nobody should be surprised

1028
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: that Michael Bidwell is disappointed and he used that word,

1029
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: by the way, disappointing for everybody. He said, for our players,

1030
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: for our coaches, certainly, for our fans, certainly as a

1031
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: fan myself, it was very disappointing. We have high expectations.

1032
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: We need to play better. I mean, I wouldn't be

1033
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: surprised if he would have said frustrated or upset. Um.

1034
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say a different F word, but

1035
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: go ahead. UM. So I mean, look, I think I

1036
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: think we all kind of know where everything stands right now.

1037
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: It was a great year, did not end the way

1038
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: it needed to end on a lot of levels. Uh.

1039
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: The performance in the playoff game was disappointing, to say

1040
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: the least, and I think everybody's going to be feeling

1041
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: that for a while. But again, I get to the offseason,

1042
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, things change and it's going to be a

1043
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: new season. Just like I said earlier to Danny, how

1044
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: every season is unto itself. You need to build on

1045
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: certain things. Individual players can build on experience and that

1046
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But I'm not a big believer in

1047
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: momentum from year to year. I'm not a big believer.

1048
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: And I mean the teams are too different these days.

1049
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: Too much time has passed yet. But yet again this year,

1050
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: seven of the fourteen playoff teams were different. Yeah, fifty

1051
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: percent of the playoff field changed out. Again, that's an

1052
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: annual occurrence, right, So, I mean, I don't I'm not

1053
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: a big believer in what ended up happening at the

1054
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: end of this season is going to have a huge

1055
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: impact on next season. It doesn't mean they won't have

1056
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: another poor finish. They've got to figure out the ways

1057
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: of why this stuff is happening. But I don't. I

1058
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: can't tell you what it's going to look like next year.

1059
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you start going around, we

1060
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: talk about the free agents. I don't know who the

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Speaker 1: main pass rusher on this team is going to be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who the number one cornerback on this

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Speaker 1: team is going to be. We can say Byron Murphy,

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Speaker 1: but if they upgrade there, maybe he gets to go

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Speaker 1: to number two and you're much better off there. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who the inside linebackers are going to be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who the running backs are going to be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who beyond who's going to be beyond

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins as a receiver. I don't know who the

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Speaker 1: guards are going to be. I just I feel like

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Speaker 1: until we know some of this stuff, it's it's hard

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Speaker 1: to really get a feel over what is happening now

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Speaker 1: and how it could turn out later, because well, there's

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Speaker 1: just too much time that is going to pass. And

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Speaker 1: if defensive coordinator Vance Joseph getting offered and accepts one

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Speaker 1: of these head coaching possible opportunities, who goes with him?

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Speaker 1: That's a whole that's a whole other thing is not

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Speaker 1: only And who's your defensive coordinator? Right? What does his

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Speaker 1: defense look like? I think about last offseason right, the

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Speaker 1: most recent example, there was a lot of the same sentiment. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals lost five over the last seven. The Week

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Speaker 1: sixteen loss to the Niners at home and third string

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks CJ. Bethar and then the loss against John Wolford,

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Speaker 1: and the rams of playoffs are on the line, and

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Speaker 1: all this one and then all of a sudden boom

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Speaker 1: early early March before the league year opened. What happened

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Speaker 1: a tweet from JJ Watt in the squat rack where

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Speaker 1: in a Cardinal's workout shirts source me and everything changed

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Speaker 1: that everything changed, And then there was another signing and

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Speaker 1: another move, and then I was a boom, and then

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Speaker 1: the draft and and it just all of the reset

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Speaker 1: button was hit last offseason, so we're just waiting. It's

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Speaker 1: just a matter how things will happen. Things will change.

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Speaker 1: The only constant as we wrap up this edition A

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific Automation, is Larry

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald continues to win at life, most recently named the

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Speaker 1: executive Chairman of the Super Bowl fifty seven Committee, yet

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Speaker 1: another title on Larry's resume. He's already on the board

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Speaker 1: of directors I think for Dicks, Sporting Goods and some

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Speaker 1: other luminary spot. It's there in the business world. So

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, he'll be in LA for the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: to take the ceremonial handoff of the football from right

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Speaker 1: from the LA Host Committee to the Arizona Host Committee.

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's like the equivalent of an Olympics of

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Speaker 1: the flame, right the torch. They passed the torch literally

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Speaker 1: in the Olympics. And then you know, okay, so Larry'll

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Speaker 1: have gery'll stand up and say I've officially retired. Nope, Nope,

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Speaker 1: even I've been here long enough to understand that joke. Darren.

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Speaker 1: You know what, We're just gonna have to say it

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Speaker 1: for him. Honestly, I think we're just gonna have to

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Speaker 1: say it for him. And you know, uh, tough, tough, Larry.

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Speaker 1: If we start sending out, oh, I don't know, retirement

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Speaker 1: content on acy Cardinals dot com and if you know,

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Speaker 1: some documentaries start going out about your career that a

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Speaker 1: certain someone worked more than two months on, has how

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Speaker 1: to sit on forever. Others of us have worked on

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Speaker 1: long form written content about your career, Larry, that has

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Speaker 1: yet to go out. Nobody can push the send button

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Speaker 1: because we don't get it. You know what. Tough, It's

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Speaker 1: just at some point, you know what, we're just gonna

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Speaker 1: make the determination for you. You should put it out

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Speaker 1: because everything on the internet is true. I'm very I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited for fits to hear this part of the

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Speaker 1: podcast and then maybe just despite us, he'll make a comeback,

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Speaker 1: so you know, and if maybe, if that's, if that's

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Speaker 1: the net result in a roundabout way, I'm returning for

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Speaker 1: another for another season, then yeah, then there you go.

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Speaker 1: The catalyst was Cardinals Underground, brought to you by Pacific

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