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Speaker 1: Motherfucking mini episode. Mini episode, motherfucking mini episode.

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Speaker 2: Smoking on Hey in the middle of the barn. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Little and It's gonna get you, Chicago, Welcome

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Speaker 2: little Mamas and gentiles alike to a phenomenal mini episode

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Speaker 2: of My Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 3: The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets

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Speaker 3: of black conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: And we finally were to prove the conspiracies of you,

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Speaker 2: the listeners. It's a mini episode.

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Speaker 3: Idiot, motherfucking mini episode.

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Speaker 2: You dumb bitch.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: What do you want to do?

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Speaker 3: Where are you from? Partner? Cuz you get out of

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Speaker 3: my God damn so looker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're back with Yeah, I like I'm David boy

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Speaker 2: and and.

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Speaker 3: We have a fun one. You. You have an email

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Speaker 3: that we have a whole email.

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Speaker 2: It looks great. Yeah, dick, Yeah, I can't wait. I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited. I'm just gonna start in. The email is

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Speaker 2: titled the Debo Dilemma. Already got my attention, pulls us in,

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Speaker 2: all right? You ready?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What's good? And great? What's good? And greetings to the

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Speaker 2: Negro Philosophy corner, Holland and Gavin. Here we are big

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Speaker 2: fans of my mam and told me before we get

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Speaker 2: any further, let us address the obvious, because we kind

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Speaker 2: of know y'all at this point we are both.

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Speaker 3: Black as we gotta ask all the time. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: We're not at all mixed We're not at all mixed up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know they were coming at you on that

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Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like that one bit. We're not all mixed up.

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Speaker 3: Ain't necessary, No, makes it sound like an insult. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like we're fucking in here confused, and.

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Speaker 2: Just wanted to get that out the way so we

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Speaker 2: can have y'all focus on the right ship now, the

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Speaker 2: conspiracy Friday, the debot.

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Speaker 3: Dilemma, Oh, a little teaser, and then the real trailer.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. A writer, I've been listening to your

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Speaker 2: podcast in recent months and really enjoyed debriefing the episodes

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Speaker 2: with the love of my life, discussing the conspiracies that

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Speaker 2: y'all could give a shit about and because you found

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Speaker 2: a more interesting subject to talk about, and taking a

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Speaker 2: moment to discuss some of our own theories that we've

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Speaker 2: often wanted about. She and I don't always agree, but

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Speaker 2: we often get each other to look at it differently

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Speaker 2: or consider a different perspective, which is dope. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: the discussion topics. Feels like a very healthy relationship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are learning from us. That's the sight

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Speaker 3: you're gonna make it. Yeah, this is black love, not

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Speaker 3: that mixed up love. Oh which one am I? Oh well,

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Speaker 3: my baggy jeans, I'm black today.

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Speaker 2: Sure footed love. We started talking about the infamous Debo

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Speaker 2: played by Tommy tiny Lister Junior rip to the legend.

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Speaker 2: Remember when Deebo rolled up on Craig and Smoky at

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Speaker 2: to his character. Aside from them hiding their shit because

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Speaker 2: one eye on them, he knew immediately they were lying

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Speaker 2: moment Deebo tries to say, what's up to Stanley's old

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Speaker 2: bougie ass and he waves Debo off on some crazy,

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Speaker 2: disrespectful shit. Well fuck you, then, Punk Deebo replies, after

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Speaker 2: being dissed. It's only then does Deebo decide to rob Stanley,

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Speaker 2: who stormass left his window open in the hood, so

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Speaker 2: he kind of asked for it. No, cap. Did Stanley

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Speaker 2: he simply hate Deebo's crooked eye? No one knows. But

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Speaker 2: why would you show away a big nigga like that?

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's a good question, yo.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying you must always set yourself up for success.

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Speaker 2: Ice Cube was smoking weed and teaching life lessons in

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Speaker 2: the script, just saying, so, okay, let's let's talk about

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Speaker 2: that first one before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's a really good point, frankly, that that

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Speaker 3: number one. He is being in some ways profiled when

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Speaker 3: There's a level of judgment being placed on him, and

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Speaker 2: A did he not come up saying what you got

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Speaker 3: He did that after he said what's up to cragging

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: He says, what's up Craig what's up? Smoke? And uh,

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Speaker 3: then he said, what's the other dude's name? He says,

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Speaker 2: Was it Red was with him?

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Speaker 3: It might have been, Yeah, what's up?

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Speaker 3: He's and then he says, what you got on my drink?

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Speaker 3: Because he's peeping their energy.

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Speaker 2: He's like, right, but they're already weird, and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we can't and like, to be fair, have you ever

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Speaker 2: known this? And like you even know a guy who

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, that's.

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Speaker 2: Like a common man. That's a common man right where.

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Speaker 2: It's just like and those guys do always seem to

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Nah, because I'm scared of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm supposed to be in the house right now.

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Speaker 3: You make me uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like you, and I understand that you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't do it, big guy, And I'm not

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Speaker 2: But that is okay. So that is So that's the

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Speaker 2: I think that's understandable. The idea and Stanley did shoot

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Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to shake step. He did just say

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Speaker 3: He just greeted him, and Stanley was like yeah, because

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Speaker 3: that's not how you treat anybody if you have to

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Speaker 2: Also, all he said was what's up? Yeah, he just

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Speaker 2: that is very rude.

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Speaker 3: That was rude behavior, Stanley.

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Speaker 2: All right, so that's that's the first one. This guy,

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Speaker 2: Cut to another Deebo situation. Deepo in Red Deebo is

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Speaker 2: clearly a bully. I'm not taking that away from dude.

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Speaker 2: Remember the infamous bike scene when Rev wanted that joint back.

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Speaker 2: You can forget A thought we had was would Red

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Speaker 2: was honest with Debo when he talked about his bike deepo.

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Speaker 2: Lashing out could have just been a projection from not

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Speaker 2: of Michael Clark Duncan's random ass cameo in that scene.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, and to speak to that, I have always

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Speaker 2: wondered what the fuck was Michael Clark Duncan doing there?

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Speaker 3: Mmmm? Right, I'll be honest, I don't remember him being

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Speaker 2: He's there, whoa, yeah, smiling all goofy, whoa marthy alrighty.

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Speaker 2: Don't know.

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Speaker 3: He's out of people and blew them.

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Speaker 2: Up, but like yeah, because and that is a good

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Speaker 2: question of the dynamic because remember he was like, give

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Speaker 2: I lost. But we don't know who MCD was there with.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Smokey had brought him. But you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Right that that there may have been a reason for

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean that being said, he still did.

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Speaker 3: No he did red bad and and he took his

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Speaker 3: But to the point that they're making it seems as

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Speaker 2: And also hurt people. Hurt people. We don't know anything

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Speaker 2: about Deebo's like, no, we don't know anything about his background.

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Speaker 2: We don't know where he's from. All we know is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know what he's biking away from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know what he's biking. We don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he slept at Felicia's house at

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think he went He goes home at

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Speaker 2: So he's just out on the block all day because

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Speaker 3: He's not drinking water and he's out in the hot

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Speaker 2: That's why he wanted to drink. You wanted to hydrate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's begging them for water, and these niggas go,

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Speaker 3: I can't help you, debo.

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Speaker 2: He said, Craig smoky, I'm.

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Speaker 3: If you wouldn't mind just go give me some some sink,

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Speaker 3: A little tap water would do me well. And crazy like,

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Speaker 3: I can't help you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom said you can't come in the house.

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Speaker 3: It was like fuck, all right, God damn.

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Speaker 2: Well, then I gotta rob. I gotta rob Stanley's house

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Speaker 2: for some fucking water money.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to drink out of Stanley's staff.

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Speaker 2: All right, So here we go. Here's he brings up

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Speaker 2: another one. Cut to another debo moment when he beat

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Speaker 3: All right, starting to get a little rocky here, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think we might have found a line. Okay, okay, no

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Speaker 2: disclaimer not condoning hitting anywhere woman ever, but a bitch now.

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Speaker 3: Mitch is working Nerve sister's work your brain.

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Speaker 2: Ah Okay, yeah, disclaimer not condoning hitting him any woman ever.

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Speaker 2: Those are some bitch ass niggas and that is only

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons why Dve Deebo will forever be

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Speaker 2: a villain. But who pokes the bear aka fucks with

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Speaker 2: a carry dude like that? Let me explain Diebo is

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Speaker 2: going through his things while he slept after they smashed. Remember,

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Speaker 2: Smokey was the one going through Diebos. I think he

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Speaker 2: meant to say Smoky right now, he said. Deebo beat

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Speaker 2: up Felicia because she was going Oh yeah, she thought

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Speaker 2: she was going.

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Speaker 3: Through his things. He thought she was going through his

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Speaker 2: Remember Smokey was the one going through Diebo's pants looking

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Speaker 2: for the money they stole from Stanley earlier. Felicia didn't lie,

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Speaker 2: but Diebo was certain and not wrong about somebody going

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Speaker 3: Devo just had some other dude's bike. Y we we

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Speaker 3: You can, you can get it unedited, but just no

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Speaker 3: Fucked up, Hey, players fuck up a fuck up and

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Speaker 2: Uh, okay, that being said, Langston, do you want to

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Speaker 3: Langston Kerman Twitter, Instagram, TikTok. I'm on autumn shits and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like not a cool thing, I think. But

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Speaker 1: Ah.

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Speaker 2: You know you can find me cool guy Joke City

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Speaker 2: So go to bring David to play dot com. We'll

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Speaker 2: have some of that ship for you. Watch Exploding Kittens

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Speaker 3: least explaining who he ultimately became, please send it all

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Speaker 3: to my mamapod at gmail dot com. We would love

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Speaker 3: this ship, and that's the whole thing. Bye, bitch, that's.

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