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Speaker 1: Against the Chronic goals.

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Speaker 2: This is not your average shows.

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Speaker 3: You're now tuned into the reil.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production of

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Speaker 4: comment Oaks, youre what's cracking?

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Speaker 2: Dog shit?

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Speaker 1: I ain't doing nothing, man.

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Speaker 5: We just doing what we do, you know, on this

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Speaker 5: Gainst the Chronicles day, So you know that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Man. What's up people? How y'all feeling?

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: You know what I told you, man, We was gonna

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Speaker 4: make it happen. Man, I don't been asking this man.

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Speaker 4: I think Gainst the Chronicles going on our seventh year

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Speaker 4: or something like that, and I've been asking this man.

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Speaker 4: Out of them seven years, at least six of those

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Speaker 4: every year. Time when you go come and sit down, Todd,

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Speaker 4: when you go see down eight, put the pressure on me. Man.

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Speaker 4: We finally made it happen. We got a true content,

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Speaker 4: not just a conptant legend, a hip hop legend in

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Speaker 4: the building tonight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we ain't gonna put We ain't gonna even though

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Speaker 5: you know, people don't know the significance of what's happening

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Speaker 5: right about now. We just got a lot of history,

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Speaker 5: and we got a lot of significance for the person

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Speaker 5: sitting here with us today, one of my motherfucking.

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Speaker 1: Fore fathers. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Real, if you want to speak on Mount Rushmoores of

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Speaker 5: West Coast hip hop, then you would be a goddamn

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Speaker 5: fool if you didn't include this man right here. So

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Speaker 5: that's what we're doing today, man, letting people know, uh,

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Speaker 5: the history of where I'm from, the Hub City, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. For people don't know content, we

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Speaker 5: call that the Hub City, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So this is agnificant right here. Yeah, I had to

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Speaker 5: put pressure on you man. You know, we had a

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Speaker 5: few weirdos on the show Man, so got to get

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Speaker 5: no disrespect nobody, But we have a few weirdos show Man.

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Speaker 5: Niggas get sidetracked and ship, you know, we trying to

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Speaker 5: express their feelings and they, you know, niggas looking through

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Speaker 5: the trees from behind you and ship like, what the

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Speaker 5: fuck is going on right about that? They still still

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Speaker 5: have to call me with the show is over. Get

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Speaker 5: the scratch of his head, like, man, what.

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Speaker 4: The like we just had like, what's going on top man?

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Speaker 4: What's cracking?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: Nothing much man, you know, just been trying to stay

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Speaker 3: out the way doing me you know.

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Speaker 5: The Grand National, the O G Grand National tiny t

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Speaker 5: at the building for you feel me.

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Speaker 4: And you know what I look at man. Sometimes when

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Speaker 4: they make these lists, especially when.

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Speaker 5: Us what we're finlah go into there right the white

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Speaker 5: doing it right quick, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's this.

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Speaker 4: And you know Complex just put out a list of

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Speaker 4: the greatest LA rappers of all time.

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Speaker 5: Bro, Well the Game just put out his list too.

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Speaker 5: Now they said, yeah, you haven't seen the Game. Had

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Speaker 5: a powerful rebuttal about his position on the Complex. Uh

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Speaker 5: you know list, shout out to my nigga, the Game.

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Speaker 5: The Game has released his top one hundred l A

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Speaker 5: rappers and.

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Speaker 1: I got it for it.

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Speaker 2: He got to pull it up, he yo.

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Speaker 5: You know still you usually do all that motherfucking computer ship.

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Speaker 5: But you know Game is one of my peoples, and

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Speaker 5: you know I follow Game. He followed me, so it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Game, the game always been hard he was

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Speaker 4: Out of Man the game is vicious.

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Speaker 2: You know what. This is what I tell people. This

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Speaker 3: Compton took like a little dip for a minute, Nigga

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: You know, mad you already you know we went through

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Speaker 5: record business. But you know, minus that complex put out,

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Speaker 5: they list Game put out. His list, Game has a

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Speaker 5: top one hundred, not fifty. So he has page one,

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Speaker 5: page two, page three, Top one hundred, La Rappers, page

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Speaker 5: one from Game. Tupac is one, Snoop Dogg is two,

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Speaker 5: and Exhibit is ten. That's the top ten on his list.

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Speaker 5: Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 4: I'm not mad at it. I think it's always gonna

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Speaker 4: be a little bit subjective, you know, to what people

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Speaker 5: Though the next ten, Nipsey is eleven, ice t is twelve,

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Speaker 4: You know what, I would have probably rearranged that a

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Speaker 4: little bit. But I'm not mad at it though, because

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Speaker 4: that's his opinion. You feel what I'm saying. I'm not

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Speaker 5: His opinion is my man Toddy t is on the

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Speaker 5: is number ninety two as one of the top one

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Speaker 4: I made the list and he should have been on it.

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Speaker 5: Of course, you can't like like I go on Complex,

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Speaker 5: I was number twelve on his list.

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Speaker 1: I'm number eighteen.

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Speaker 5: I don't complain about any of that, or being within

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Speaker 5: the top one hundred if I was ninety nine me just.

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Speaker 1: For the fact that.

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Speaker 5: Those people Complex and then one of your peers the

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Speaker 5: game recognizes you as being somebody significantly foundational as part

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Speaker 5: of West Coast LA rap history. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you should be angry or upset.

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Speaker 2: I really can't.

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Speaker 4: You really can't because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: that's his opinion, and my our list might have looked

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Speaker 4: somewhat the same. You might have had, you know, a

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Speaker 4: few little tweets here and there, but I'm not mad

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Speaker 4: at him. And to be honest with you, he had

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Speaker 4: be upset. They had him down there low.

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Speaker 5: They had him after me, No, yes, before me. On

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Speaker 5: Complexes list, I think he's number eleven. I'm number twelve,

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Speaker 5: and Corrupt is thirteen. Yeah, that's what they have. Complex

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Speaker 4: I don't. I think, you know, just for the game

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Speaker 5: And then they explain the positioning, They explain why the

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Speaker 5: artists made the list, They explain.

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Speaker 1: What they have.

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Speaker 5: Done contributed as far as hip hop is concerned, and

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Speaker 5: then they base it on I want to say, the

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Speaker 5: you know, certain certain niggas have certain skills. You might

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Speaker 5: do the crossover good, you might Alley you good, you

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Speaker 5: might so some some of it is based on what

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Speaker 5: I call the history of our music right because we

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Speaker 5: were known as storytellers.

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Speaker 2: We told stories.

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Speaker 5: So I think that is one of the reasons why

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Speaker 5: I'm high upon the list, because when it came to

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Speaker 5: the foundation of West Coast music, I told fucking stories

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Speaker 5: phenomenal about the neighborhood and what could happen to you

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Speaker 5: in this motherfucking situation. Todd told you stories about Nigga

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Speaker 5: when you on the block and you hustling Darryl Gates

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Speaker 5: and that might come through it one time, coming through it.

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Speaker 5: That's how I learned about the dope game and me

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Speaker 5: and then and then on the list, there's another I'll

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Speaker 5: just throw it out there. You got Rage here, but

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Speaker 5: then you got Yo Yo here. Now, when it comes

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Speaker 5: to lyricism, you would expect Rage to be way higher

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Speaker 5: than Yo Yo, right, but Rage is a transplant. Is

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Speaker 5: a transplant. She's from Virginia. Do you feel Rage represented

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Speaker 4: Is on the list? You know what?

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Speaker 5: Because of the death Row Run death Rod being West

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Speaker 5: Coast significant, You get me, so automatically their artists are

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Speaker 5: put into the West Coast category. But everybody know Corrupt

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Speaker 5: was from Philly, fucking Rage is from Virginia, Park was

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Speaker 1: You get me? So, does does that out? Does that?

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Speaker 1: Is that? How that outweighs?

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Speaker 5: Because Yo Yo is o G West Coast, you know,

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Speaker 4: Ran with you know, she's West and you know what,

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Speaker 4: to me, yo Yo had bigger records, She had more

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Speaker 1: Was played with my yo Yo bigger than Afro Puffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was on a nationwide basis probably

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Speaker 4: so you think, so you know what, I don't have

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Speaker 4: and Clyde was bigger than big. I just think that

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Speaker 5: But she's a lyrical genius to me. You know, yo

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Speaker 5: Yo is you know women's you know whatever. We know

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Speaker 4: From you know, speaking to Yoyo, let me say something.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give us to a yo Yo. Can you

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Speaker 5: She hit me and told me when she slowed down,

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Speaker 5: and because you know, she got her shows and she's

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Speaker 5: doing her dang now she's doing her cooking thing, you know.

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Speaker 5: But she she has responded to me and told me

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Speaker 5: when yo Yo is fine as hell. Man, I'm always

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Speaker 5: like Yoyo. Yoyo's been off Yoyo's Like I said, she's

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Speaker 5: one of our sisters from from from around the corner.

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Speaker 4: She always had that like feel to me, like she

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Speaker 4: was one of the homegirls around the way.

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Speaker 3: You know, with the list, I've never really tripped on

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Speaker 3: the list because I wasn't the super super like you said,

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Speaker 3: I just told stories oning on and it was now

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Speaker 3: if you go by, let's start with the early people

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Speaker 3: first and then build a list up like that. It's cool,

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Speaker 3: but you know, everybody wants to be that number one person.

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Speaker 2: You know. I like games list, you know, because I

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Speaker 2: like game exactly. Game did it?

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Speaker 3: Man, Like I said, Compton was quiet into the game,

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Speaker 3: came to me, he brought he breathed the life back

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Speaker 3: into it, and he started it. And the next thing,

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Speaker 3: you know, after him, here come who was that Ygi

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Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kendrick. He just it just

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Speaker 3: all the little homies just all of a sudden.

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Speaker 5: It was what they called themselves, uh, the New West

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Speaker 5: Coast artists. They were trying to to find their their standpoint.

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Speaker 5: As far as when that time was happening, I remember

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Speaker 5: a lot of dudes yelling out New West around that

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Speaker 5: want to fuck with our music, you get me. It

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Speaker 5: was the fall of death Row, it was the it

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Speaker 5: was the world wide band against gangster rap. That's how

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Speaker 5: Before then, Nigga, we used to tear up some other

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Speaker 5: Not that it was just us, but man, we was

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Speaker 5: They was like, like I said, Nigga, I had a

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Speaker 5: Everything I turned in they would reject Nope, nope, And

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Speaker 5: I've been fucking with my whole career, Nigga that everything

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Speaker 5: After a year or tug of war, they was like,

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Speaker 5: They did not want to. So that was our period

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Speaker 5: if it's sticking. The ship wasn't sticking. And no disrespect

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Speaker 5: off of Snoops, Dre's eights Cubes, Easies and now it's

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Speaker 5: Who was supposed to get a torch to get me?

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Speaker 4: One thing I want to know tied as far as

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Speaker 2: The drugs and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but but all that technically came from Spade for me,

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Speaker 5: And see they see before tide gets started, I won't

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Speaker 3: It was it was one of them things where I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you what happened. See I'm in Spade. I

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Speaker 3: was an enterprise. Shout out the enterprise. I was in

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Speaker 2: Rector. There was a lot of us.

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Speaker 1: Shout out the.

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Speaker 5: First director about my nigga dirl record hit me about

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Speaker 4: Shot.

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Speaker 3: Hear that time say it was hard, the mother was

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Speaker 3: and he came up there and he saw us and

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Speaker 3: So Spade was up on game before anybody. He would

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Speaker 2: We had the park, Nigga, it's a block party.

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Speaker 3: And they got the old school speakers and the DJ

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Speaker 3: of them raggedy ass uh record players to kind of

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Speaker 3: Compton and Kemp. That's what Spade stayed at and he

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Speaker 3: would just be mixing shit and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: now he's rapping shit. But what Spade is rapping is

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Speaker 3: So he's doing crash Crew because you walking down the

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Speaker 3: is before eighty four. So he's rapping Grand Master Flashing

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Speaker 3: and free as five Freedom. You know, nobody know that

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Speaker 3: this nigga putting in didn't we didn't have records, No,

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Speaker 3: we didn't have it. We didn't have none of that.

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Speaker 3: So everything this nigga's rapping, it's New York shit. So

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Speaker 3: but everybody's buying these tapes from him. Everybody's pulling up

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Speaker 3: they getting taped from him. He's the master of this shit.

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Speaker 3: So around about he steadied doing that. So when I

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Speaker 3: just sit in the classroom eighty one just writing rhymes.

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Speaker 2: And my classmate was BIG's Master.

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Speaker 3: Ken was Kenneth Williams, then Kenneth Williams, then so Kenny.

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Speaker 3: He was always telling jokes and ship. But he would

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Speaker 3: look over at me like, man, what you doing. I'm

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Speaker 3: riting the rhyme and he'd be like, damn, how you

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Speaker 3: do that?

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Speaker 2: Ship? And he would just watch me do the ship?

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: So what kind of sparked my street? My street and

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Speaker 2: my rast was just basic ship, you know, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I'm fresh that.

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Speaker 3: Around eighty two Barey Mail, Grand Master Flash and the

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Speaker 3: motherfucking furiously the message. That's why that was my hero.

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Speaker 3: You know, Man Malely was telling these stories.

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Speaker 1: The message. I mean.

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Speaker 2: That motherfucker came everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Man, When motherfucking mail came, oh man, I I lost it, nigga.

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Speaker 3: Everything after that I want to rap about was what

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Speaker 3: like I graduated eighty three, So now the dope game

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Speaker 2: The dope game is coming in.

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Speaker 3: Now Spade started rapping, you know, more street ship. But

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Speaker 3: what he's rapping a lot of shit he's rapping. Kenny

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Speaker 3: started rapping mixed Master Ken.

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Speaker 2: So Spade was just Jack Day raps.

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Speaker 3: And now he's rapping and he's rapping mixed Master ken Ship,

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Speaker 3: you know, but it's like it's his, you know. And

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Speaker 3: Kenny tapes was hard. Kenny had one tape and that

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Speaker 4: And so and so.

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Speaker 2: That's how we were.

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Speaker 3: He got more into the street thing, you know, the

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Speaker 2: Now, what prompt the Ogi batter Ram.

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Speaker 3: Tape was I went over spade house one day, niggas

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Speaker 3: is buying tapes, and he kind of clown in me, like, yeah, nigga,

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Speaker 3: you can't.

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Speaker 2: Do this, you can't. Yeah, nigga, this is what I do,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 4: And he smiled.

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Speaker 3: He always smiling with your sh doing all that shit, right,

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Speaker 3: So I was like, I was hot.

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Speaker 2: Nigga got in my little bucket.

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Speaker 3: I said, I'm going home, nigga, I'm finna just make

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Speaker 3: the best tape I can make.

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Speaker 2: Nigga, now keep mine. I'm like seventeen, So I go home.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how I'm gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: And I got DJ shit at my house, so all

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Speaker 3: So I happened to catch the batter ram on the

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Speaker 3: doing something.

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Speaker 2: So now over here, I said, okay, hold on the

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Speaker 2: bat around.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I grab a raping doup boom boom.

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Speaker 2: Boom boom. Then I started writing the batter around.

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Speaker 3: The batter around went through my pad, Compton, Carson, l A,

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Speaker 3: and Watts. So so I come with that one right.

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Speaker 3: So then I said, okay, I finished that one.

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Speaker 2: I listened to it. I said, damn that ship dope.

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Speaker 2: So I come back.

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Speaker 3: I said, I need another one graded because remember back

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Speaker 3: then records had instrumental. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I grabbed the freaks come out at night

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Speaker 2: and come on, tell them who who he?

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Speaker 4: So nigga.

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Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, the clutchs come out at night.

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Speaker 1: The clutch come.

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Speaker 2: Out at night, and so I was fucking with that.

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Speaker 2: I did that with finished that one.

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Speaker 3: Then Rock said, rock send Nigga, turned on the instrumental

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Speaker 2: I said, here we go, let me write this one

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Speaker 2: rock Man, rock Man.

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Speaker 1: So then it was hard.

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Speaker 3: So then Nigga I went to I see and this

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Speaker 3: was one that everybody liked, and Uh, I grabbed Jazz Sensation,

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Speaker 3: this New York instrumental, and that's when.

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Speaker 2: I came with, uh, cluck Head, got you Busted.

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Speaker 6: Nigga Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom doom. Oh man,

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Speaker 6: that motherfucker can you feel it? And that was a

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Speaker 6: SPAD record. He let me use right, So I was like, man,

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Speaker 6: I was on after that. So when I what I

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Speaker 6: did was when I finished it, I ran some copies.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, let me see how Nigga's gonna like

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Speaker 2: this ship. And so.

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Speaker 3: Firsthood I think I went to was Nutty Black at

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Speaker 3: the time, and it was nub Tyrone and Gary. They

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Speaker 3: was brothers. I went to them because I put them

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Speaker 3: in the in the wrap. Noub Tyrone and Gary was

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Speaker 3: kicking back when all of a sudden they heard caks.

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Speaker 2: You know, Nub got to think of what could this be.

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Speaker 2: It's like a jungle some time and NBC, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, back then we wrapped about just different neighborhoods, you know,

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Speaker 3: every they got along then, you know, so I sold.

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Speaker 2: The tape to them, shout off the nutty block.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So next thing I know, these niggas called me back,

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Speaker 3: Nigga somebody else. You know, they want some tapes. So, Nigga,

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Speaker 3: I'm over there. It's about six niggas over there. I

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Speaker 3: slang them the tape. Now I'm out of tapes because

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, I'm just gonna sing the regular motherfuckers

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Speaker 3: got So I go.

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Speaker 2: Back home, make some mo tapes.

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Speaker 3: Nigga, I hit front Hood, Nigga, I hit corner Pocket,

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Speaker 3: I hit fruit Town. It was just niggas. I knew

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Speaker 3: because niggas like me. So I knew I wasn't no

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Speaker 3: threat to no type of niggas. Right, So all these

438
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Speaker 3: niggas buying tapes. Now by them buying tapes, they running copies,

439
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: slinging the motherfuckers they damn self. Next thing, I know,

440
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: the fucking record shops. People going in the record shops like, man,

441
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: you got the battle around VIPs and everybody is like,

442
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: what are you talking about?

443
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 5: You know I got mine via Santana Block. Yeah, float

444
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 5: the gold album on the street.

445
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: Next thing you know you got you got uh.

446
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: All the low Riders, majestics, all them, every majestics, they

447
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: got them, all the low rider dudes, they got it,

448
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: and it just twinkled this way. It got so big,

449
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: like the record stops start buying machines where they can

450
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: just slang the tape because people was going, hey, you

451
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: got that original bat Round tape. So next thing I know,

452
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: this one FuG Done went all the way up to

453
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: the Bay Fody Me and Spade tapes because I put

454
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: Spade on the tapes too, you know, so like if

455
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: you that's why I love Fody.

456
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: You see an interview with Eody or Too Short.

457
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: They always mentioned me, like, man, we listened to Toddy

458
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: t mixed Master of Spad, you know then my.

459
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: Dudes you know forty Short.

460
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, too Short all day that. That

461
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: was my first tours was with Too Short.

462
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: These niggas was the king of tapes out the trunck.

463
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, nigga.

464
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: I went When I went to Oakland, it's a story.

465
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: I went to Oakland. This I'm gonna get back to

466
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: the bat Round. I go to Oakland, I do a concert.

467
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: This when bat Around came out to the record part, I.

468
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: Think it was at the Coliseum.

469
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: I go on stage rocket, rock the house, everybody whatever, whatever,

470
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: So Too Short go out. I'm looking at this nigga.

471
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 3: Too Short go on stage, nigga, he do his thing.

472
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 3: They going crazy, But I didn't get the impact of

473
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 3: Too Short tip. Right after that concert, we went to

474
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 3: a club, Nigga. When we got in that club, niggas,

475
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 3: I rocked the club. But when Too Short took the stage,

476
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: I knew this nigga was the king of Oakland nigga.

477
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: This nigga started rapping, and I'm like, it's this little

478
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: kids in the crowd, you know, but.

479
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: Everybody is mother fucking word where he didn't even have

480
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: to say a motherfucking word the whole.

481
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: They wrapping his street tape shit, and I'm like, who

482
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: is this nigga?

483
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: You know?

484
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: And I was like, man, it seemed like that's still

485
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: my dude.

486
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: The streets.

487
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 5: We didn't have a voice as far as outside of

488
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 5: Metley Mail. Yeah, you're getting me so for a lot

489
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 5: of those inner city kids and you know, poverty, youth

490
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 5: and struggling motherfuckers, these niggas was our voice. That's why

491
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 5: they would look at like you didn't even need no

492
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 5: record deal. This niggas ship was all taped over TDK tapes. Motherfucker,

493
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: like I said, got minds from somebody from Santana. Black

494
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: nigga went home, put that motherfucker in the boombox. Nigga

495
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 5: was just like God damn.

496
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: These niggas as hard as fuck.

497
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 5: And if you was a little young, beg nigga, you know,

498
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 5: banging and shit. Man, this nigga was nigga.

499
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: He wrote everybody, everybody, records from everybody, had nigga boomboxes everybody.

500
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 3: And then what happened to was it caused niggas to

501
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: look for me. So you know already say record companies

502
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: look for niggas, but it was it was just little

503
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: dudes looking for me. And then my homeboy are R

504
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: I p Key, which was was my manager keeping a culture,

505
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: he found me. He come through the neighborhood looking for

506
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 3: me and he see Mike Williams. You see all these

507
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: dudes and he asking them, hey, y'all know Toddy Tiat

508
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: and they looking at the nigga like nigga, who is you?

509
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: They said, oh no, I just won't want to try

510
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: to do a record with him. So he grabs me.

511
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: They finally connected with me and he's talking to me

512
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: and he said, man, Leon Haywood want to meet you.

513
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: So Leon Heywood r P. Was a genius, genius, I

514
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: want to do something freaky to you. Yes, yeah, all

515
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: that you know.

516
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: So we go to Leon and he talking to me like, yeah, man,

517
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: they your stuff is hot on the streets.

518
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: He said, Man, we want to do a record.

519
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: We originally did the tried to do the og bat

520
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: around for but it just didn't have that kick to it.

521
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: And Heywood was like, man, let's just speak this up.

522
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: And so he started listening to records. He listened to

523
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: friends and they said, I want something like Friends. Then

524
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: he started making Beach similar to it, and then all

525
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: sudden he just put his genius into doing the music.

526
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: So we started adding little stuff here and there. And

527
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: I was at the time working at will wilson Ford

528
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: in Huntington Beach. So I was in wilson Ford writing

529
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: a song. You know, we had the Battered Home. They

530
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: caught it the Battered Home, and track knew it was

531
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: a It was a house where I guess they caught

532
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: it battered home because we all wasn't living with our

533
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: mamas over there.

534
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: Man, it was the funnest house around.

535
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: So what happened was we started, we made the record,

536
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: but people steady looking for me, Rudy Party from the

537
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: l A Dream Team, I'm at mixed Master Ken House.

538
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: They pull up on me and that's how I got

539
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: casting over. The dude that was also rapping with me

540
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: on batter Around would come in and say different little

541
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: stuff on there, but pretty much that was kind of

542
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: like how it went in the beginning. And the radio stations,

543
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: like Greg Max said, we kept hearing about it, but

544
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: they brought us to tape.

545
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: He was like, we can't play this.

546
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

547
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: Shot the grid because he was one of the He's

548
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: definitely the founding father of getting all our stuff done,

549
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: you know. So finally once they got the record, the

550
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: tape was so big everybody was waiting. So when the

551
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: record came out, that sucker shot straight up number one

552
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: on all these regud stays from here to the Bay.

553
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: Just everybody loves me.

554
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: So whose label was Eve?

555
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: Jim Leon Haywood?

556
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So was that was that already an established lad?

557
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

558
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just had a few acts. Bat Around was

559
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: probably the biggest one we did on us.

560
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

561
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had blues, he was more of a blues

562
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: Little Joe Blue them type of dudes.

563
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 5: Because I bought I bought the twelve inch and he

564
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 5: had at the time Captain Rat.

565
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: When I first went shot to Captain Rat, who had

566
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: bad times, he did a song called bite Him.

567
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: He was in their recording, so that was on e

568
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: JM too.

569
00:30:53,920 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 5: See, a lot of people need to understand what the

570
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: foundation of West Coast music was because before you guys

571
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 5: came along, I don't think we had anything.

572
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: So what were you.

573
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: Listening to as a young dude? Everything?

574
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: But I was probably more into I liked Ice Tea

575
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: because he had cold, cold as ice.

576
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: He had cold as ice.

577
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: You know, this was way in the morning. Didn't come.

578
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it didn't come till later, till after you don't

579
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 5: quit and don't.

580
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: I liked it.

581
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: I liked it Ice Tea, you know, because Ice was

582
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: still he wasn't really technical.

583
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 5: And that's what a lot of music was a lot

584
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 5: of because you know, the Lonzo's.

585
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: And all of those dudes.

586
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 5: So, like I said, we really it was hard to

587
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 5: establish our identity as far as because.

588
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: We had Egypt, we had l a dream team.

589
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: Nobody was speaking, nobody was speaking. Nigga you sell dope,

590
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 5: the battle ram coming through and you know, we didn't have.

591
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 5: So it's good to see how our ship started from

592
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 5: the forefather because I tell niggas all the time, Nigga

593
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 5: was Techno hopship, Nigga Electric Kingdom, and it's.

594
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: Time and craft work. That's what we was listening to.

595
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: We didn't have, or you had to listen to Bobby

596
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: Jimmy and the Critters and ship like that, or Legip Egypt,

597
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 5: listen to some rock Berry or something. You know, we

598
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 5: didn't or turn off the lights there. We didn't have.

599
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: And and this was even before Easy came along. Like

600
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: I said, Nigga Spade and tied Nigga the genius A

601
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 5: love Nigga.

602
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus loved tapes.

603
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Was was man.

604
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: He'd say the same thing.

605
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: Everybody's still all the same, mother say the same rap

606
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: on different motherfucking istra biddles to be by that ship, Like.

607
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 4: Just off your the top of your head. How many

608
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: of them t DK tapes you think you so it

609
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: was thousands. It was a lot that thousands. It was

610
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: a lot I had to buy.

611
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: I had to buy, like I had to buy like

612
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: new machines because.

613
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, still that ship that O G.

614
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: Battum was platinum in the streets.

615
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 5: Man, in mother fucking streets.

616
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: Because everybody was.

617
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 3: Everybody was slaying on all the record shops, everybody, Tower,

618
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: everybody had was running copies.

619
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: I couldn't have been no more than I couldn't have

620
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 5: been no more than twelve thirteen.

621
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: Tower Records was selling that ship.

622
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 5: Man.

623
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Everybody had that.

624
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: Yes, you wasn't banging the clutch come out at night

625
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 5: or batter ram or none of.

626
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: Everybody had it.

627
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 5: It just made it just made you feel like, yeah,

628
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: somebody knows us. And like he said, Nigga, I went

629
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 5: the nutty Block and later line ething hard like a motherfucker.

630
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: Nigga.

631
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 5: Like Nigga went the nutty block. I went to Fruit Town.

632
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: I went see that. That's where I got my I

633
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: got my foundation of rapping. I wanted everybody to buy

634
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 5: my ship. I didn't want to alienate, So I'm not

635
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: gonna yell out. I'm from dragging me because I want

636
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: the nutty blocks to buy it. I want the Campanella's

637
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 5: to buy it. I want the Fruit Towns to buy it,

638
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 5: the front of hoods to Spook Towns, the south Side.

639
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: I want everybody to own this ship, because I'm talking

640
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: about ship that every motherfucking nigga and Compton go through,

641
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 5: going through other fucking daily after police all that. God

642
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 5: damn it, I don't give a fuck what set you from.

643
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 5: I bet you a motherfucker came through and did the

644
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: drive by last night. I bet you the one times

645
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 5: pulled over a nigga from your neighborhood last night. I

646
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: bet you they went through your motherfucking car and found

647
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 5: a pistol and some dope in your ass.

648
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: Last you get me.

649
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 5: You going through it, and I don't give a fuck

650
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 5: if you from over here, you from over there, if

651
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 5: you ain't Compton, goddamn it, you went through that ship

652
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: last night, so let me tell you about it, so

653
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 5: you don't.

654
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: You didn't.

655
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: That was so genius, you get it?

656
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 4: It was.

657
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: It was.

658
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: It was one of them things where Spain. Spain was

659
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: like I said, he was always doing this thing. He

660
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: would mark a lot of raps. If Kenny made a tape,

661
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: now Spade singing some of his stuff on the tape,

662
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: you know, Kenny was funny as hell. But Kenny can write.

663
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: Then he had like I told him, he had like

664
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: one tape but that motherf I.

665
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: Bought me some shrman.

666
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: Boy does smell because on that side of town they

667
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: were slinging shirt saying I walked down the street. I

668
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: had a client tell you know that was my boy.

669
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 4: Uh.

670
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: Kenny did real good, you know he was. He didn't

671
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: take it as serious because Kenny was in them streets,

672
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: you know. So he would do his raps, be on

673
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: the streets chilling. You know, had that nice Cadillac with

674
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: the bumper.

675
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 5: Kid.

676
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: You know, niggas had bread.

677
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: Niggas had everybody had money.

678
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 5: Man had bread and kind Like I said, I used

679
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 5: to be a little kid on my beach cruisers and

680
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: would see the big homies ride by and just be like, niggas.

681
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: Is balling a yeah yeah and bat around bad around

682
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: did so well. The record the making was great. I

683
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 3: remember being at Wilson Ford. Now I'm in the back

684
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: with the cars. I got to move the cars and

685
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: do all that. But they playing the radio and all

686
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: of a sudden the radio come on and they say, Toddy,

687
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: tuh this a new song.

688
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: The bat around niggas.

689
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 3: Somebody was like, hey, Todd, I think they call you

690
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 3: come here and say that mother fuck came on nigga.

691
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: We lost our mind. Nigga.

692
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 3: When you first hear your record first time, oh god.

693
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: Man, that means like you made it.

694
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: Bring on the limbos and the big it's going down.

695
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah that nigga like nigga, pull up the limbo on

696
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: the big dookie chain. Harrison, thank you. Mister Harrison was

697
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: my neighbor. He was the supervisor. Say, man, but I

698
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: got records, a record out now. But he looking at

699
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: me like you'll be back. So we did.

700
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: Even my first concert. My first concert was crazy.

701
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: We we had to batter at home and me and Mike,

702
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: all of us is there. I tell these niggascause your

703
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: friends never take your ship serious. I say, hey, nigga,

704
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: a limo coming to get me. I got a concert tonight.

705
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: Them niggas, niggas shut up, coming to see you, nigga.

706
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: Nobody.

707
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: A little while later, somebody go, it's a limbo outside.

708
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: I walked up. They looking around.

709
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: I say, I look back. I say, niggas, your nigga's

710
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: coming or not. It was like, nigga, we going come on,

711
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: get on the freeway. Nigga were going down. We get

712
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: off on King. We make a left because it's at

713
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: the La Sports Arena. Nigga, they looking I was just

714
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: looking at the looks on their face. They looking like

715
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: damn because they see all these mother called park a

716
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: lot pact. That's when I first personally meant ice Tea.

717
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: He walked right up to me and said, man, I

718
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: like what you're doing. You know, whole respect for ice Tea.

719
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 3: I love Ice Tea and I think Then it was

720
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: Scottland Rock and the Dynamic three request line.

721
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: U TFO was on there.

722
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: I was on there, uh and it was a couple

723
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: of more artists on there. Short might have been on

724
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: there too, but it was a nice concert. Then after that,

725
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: my friends was like, okay, nigga, you you're real with it.

726
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: You know, they coming to see you. So that was

727
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: that was like such a good feeling. I was scared

728
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: of shit.

729
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 4: Now you have in the streets lockdown like you did

730
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 4: when you went after that's your first concert. Was you

731
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 4: tripping off the reception that you got?

732
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: Nah, I was scared at first because we was practicing

733
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: and shit, you know, and they was clowning me because

734
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 3: these niggas is balling.

735
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: So they walking in the house just clowning niggas. The

736
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: whole time, so they, uh, they just clowned us.

737
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: And then once we got to the concert, once I realized, like,

738
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: out of all the thousands of people there, and I

739
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: tell people this all the time, you can't see all them,

740
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: You're gonna see a couple of motherfuckers right there in

741
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: the front.

742
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: You know.

743
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: So just concentrating on somebody that's in the front, you know,

744
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: bobbing to your ship and singing your shit, you know

745
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: like that.

746
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: So I was, I was nervous, but after that, I

747
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: was it.

748
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: Was over with. You know, that's crazy. So when did

749
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: now you had the Leon Heywood situation cracking off? What

750
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: transpired after that? Like what happened? You made your money

751
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 4: and stuff?

752
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: How did you? How did you? How did Banaram end

753
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 5: up on epic?

754
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

755
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: After we done sold as much as we could, Hey

756
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: was like, hey, Epic call. They said they want to uh,

757
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: they want battle around. You know, they'll give us like

758
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: forty thousand, you know, and they just gonna take over

759
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: the distribution and stuff like that.

760
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, whatever, you know, I'm young.

761
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know none of this exactly.

762
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: I didn't really start making the money till I understood

763
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: the publishing and all that because I was one hundred

764
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 3: percent writing and everything on that, you know.

765
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 5: So anybody nobody schools us on that. None, no, nobody,

766
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 5: same shit with me. I had no idea of publishing,

767
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 5: Like I said, yeah me, I heard my song on

768
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 5: KD and I seen our picture and write on magazine

769
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: and I said, nigga, I.

770
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: Quit, Yeah, yeah, we done made it.

771
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 5: You don't, nobody, even though you would think that these

772
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: people you come in contact with who have known record

773
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 5: would tell you, and then I'll tell you.

774
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: God damn know. Leon Haywood, No, goddamn Well.

775
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: He didn't really mention too much until the licensing stuff

776
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: come in a little later, and then we got into

777
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: a little argument about it because somebody on death Row

778
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: wanted to use it and we uh, I think.

779
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 2: Right in front of Reggie.

780
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: We got into a whole argument, you know, about it,

781
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: and then he pulled Reggie to the side, So I

782
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: don't know he about to tell Reggie like niggat this

783
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: my ship. So after that and then I realized, then

784
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: I don't think def Roy at the time wanted to really,

785
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: I was gonna take whatever they they could have said,

786
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: four thousand dollars, I was with it. You're like, nigga,

787
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: you you ain't gonna take that, but I'm not understanding that. Hey,

788
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: what just came out for getting an in from the

789
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: chronic So he was a master at waiting. Let him

790
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: put shit out first, and then I go in there

791
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: and negotiate a price. So finally he called me in off.

792
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: He said, look, this is your song. I'm not only song.

793
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: I don't got the pupish you have all that, you know.

794
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: I just wanted to work a deal for you, you

795
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: know whatever. But Todd, you one hundred percent rider. You

796
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: did this, this is yours.

797
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: You know.

798
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: That's why I never had problems even when he was

799
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: living licensing, because he said, if you want a license

800
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: to somebody, you do it your way. And then sometime

801
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: I would just go break them off some money. So

802
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: we were that was our relationships. So we was cool,

803
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: you know. But that publishing game. And I always tell

804
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 3: people learn that shit early. Oh you have to, because

805
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: I didn't really start making money to them there all

806
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: that shit till I said if in a wrap. And

807
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: that's when nigga, oh, it's start coming in, you know,

808
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: go outside of doing some shows, you know, and stuff

809
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: like that.

810
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: You know, but that's how it went.

811
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: Now, let me ask you this, you're doing the tapes

812
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: in the hood, did you ever imagine it to see

813
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: that you come from in particular content whatever, Just explode

814
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: on the scene and be looked at. Because me and

815
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 4: him was having a conversation last week. When you look

816
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: at the city of Compton, it's some legendary accident came

817
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: to that.

818
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't. I was young man,

819
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: I was like seventeen. I wasn't thinking about none of that.

820
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: My thing was to just make a better tape than Spade.

821
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: Right, That was it.

822
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: That was it.

823
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: That was it. It wasn't no because it wasn't nobody

824
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: else but us exactly.

825
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: So we was just me and him and Kenny was

826
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: just kind of in competition with ourselves. But we was

827
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: all homeboys, so it wasn't no animosity. We just go

828
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: rap on each other tapes and do stuff like that.

829
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: But what happened after that? You know, I had always

830
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: saw Dre you know, and that's that's one of my

831
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: that's why that's my dude. You know, I always saw

832
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: Dre and Spade had got into a car wreck.

833
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: Dre would do all this.

834
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: Dre had did La as a jungle for me, you know,

835
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: it with my two because then I made a song

836
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: about my DJs and at the time that was Joe

837
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: Cooley and dance a lot kid, you know, and Dre

838
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: did the bet for me, you know, and so it's

839
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: a lot y. Yeah, man, that's lot was hard as

840
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: fucked hard, you know. And so after that they played

841
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: it don't care, it was all right. So I was

842
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: like Spade got into a big car Egient where he

843
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: broke his legs, so he in a wheelchair.

844
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: I remember.

845
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 3: So I go back and I tell Spade, I say, look,

846
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: I'm finna bring you on my homeboy baby. Charles wrote

847
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: his part for uh just say no, because Charles wasn't

848
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: really rapid, but he wrote that you got to have

849
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: cash to make it these days, and sitting on the

850
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: tape and Spade took over it, you know, and so

851
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: and I always gave him the credit.

852
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: Charles failed me, you know. And so I went to Dre.

853
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: I say, Dre.

854
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: I called Dre, I said, I got a song in

855
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: my head and that motherfucker Dresy genius. I don't give

856
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: a fuck with nobody. There is no to me, no

857
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 3: better producer in my time that I've ever worked with.

858
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: You know, I loved Dre Dre always and when I

859
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: called him, it was come on, you know, And I

860
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: called him. At the time, he was at Lonzo's Azzo

861
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: had a studio on the back up there.

862
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: He said, okay, meet me and Lonzo house.

863
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: You know, I'll charge you a little bit of this,

864
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: but back then it wasn't a lot of money. So

865
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: he said, pay Lonzo and then just pay me to

866
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 3: do the track for you. So I'm going in there

867
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: easy walking out.

868
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 2: Now.

869
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: I know Eric from the neighborhood, and I said, nigga,

870
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: what is you doing here that? They said, Nigga, they

871
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: got me rapping now, and my words, nigga, you can't rap.

872
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't give I said what you

873
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: gonna rap about? Eric? That nigga was like, Nigga, I'm

874
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: just gonna cuss. I don't give a fuck.

875
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: But he did say I could do what y'all y'all

876
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: to y'all because he had the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

877
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: he said, and I'm just gonna cuss.

878
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: And then I was like, man, they told me I

879
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: couldn't do none of that. Ship. I tried that ship.

880
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: They was like, nah, you can't do that. They wouldn't

881
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: then stop me from doing that. And so Eric was there,

882
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: went in there and told Dre, I said, I need

883
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: to beat to go SB twelve. I think Lazzo had

884
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: was they called eight track machines or something back then

885
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: and doom through.

886
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: They had some records.

887
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: Uh well, because it was gonna be Spade, he wasn't there,

888
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to just sing the part, and then

889
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: Dre put the dun.

890
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: You know, Spade state call me and so, and then

891
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: I had an A C D C record. Dre was

892
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: just man.

893
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: Dre put that motherfucker together so fast then it was ridiculous.

894
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: So the next next day, I think we went to Haywoods.

895
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: It was just and all it was was me, me,

896
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 3: Dre and easy in the studio and uh we laid

897
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: it and Dre was telling us what to do, and uh,

898
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: Spade come getting wheeled in in the wheelchair going to

899
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: boof in the whole wheelchair, sung his part, you know,

900
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: and it went back for for a minute.

901
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: Dre mixed that motherfucker down.

902
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 3: Oh man, that motherfucker was nice and and I didn't

903
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: think because just say oh dam had an impact like

904
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 3: bat Aram.

905
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Yes it did.

906
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: Greg Mack had.

907
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: A Friday night show at World on Wheels and I

908
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: was like, Greg, I got a new song.

909
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: He said, oh, come on, come to the World on Wheels. Uh.

910
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: This was like a couple of weeks later.

911
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: When we walked in there and Spade came up and

912
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 3: we sung that song.

913
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 2: Next thing I know, that song was on the radio

914
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: the next day.

915
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: The crowd already went crazy because remember some of the

916
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: ship we were seeing was off the mixtape.

917
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: So they already knew the damn words, you know.

918
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: So Greg put it on Kday and oh, man, that

919
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: sucker just blew up and just say no, man, it

920
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 3: just blew up.

921
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: Man, it was. It was crazy man. Yeah, gangs the book.

922
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: Oh that was Dre again. That was Dre again.

923
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 3: But that's when Drey and then finally left Lonzo Crib

924
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: and went to audio Achievements in tours And I called Dre.

925
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: I said that was Big Boys it too.

926
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 3: I called Dre, I said, dreh, I got a song

927
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: in my head off the fame. Now a lot of

928
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: people didn't know all our ship is really played. It's

929
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: a cat. His name was Handy Wave Hammy. This nigga

930
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 3: played every He looked like one of the dudes from

931
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: the time, but he played every motherfucking instrument. He had

932
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: a guitar, put that down, put a horn that down,

933
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: put that. He would go from instrument, keyboard, hand me

934
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: still around doing big stuff. They even had He was

935
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: on the TV show called Handy, the One Man Show

936
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: something like that, like a late night dude. But I

937
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: called Dre, I said, Man, I got an idea because

938
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 3: Dra was doing all our ship.

939
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: We got some other shit we never released. That was

940
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: hard that Dre did. Uh. But the reason I liked.

941
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: Dra because it was easy to tell him what we

942
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: want and he would just listen to me and lay it.

943
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: But he enjoyed that.

944
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: You could tell he enjoyed doing this shit because he's

945
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: bouncing around. He's you know, he doing him you know.

946
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: And uh, gangst the Bookie. When we did against the Boogie,

947
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: it was nice.

948
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: It did it did well?

949
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 5: Man?

950
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

951
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 5: Well, so who convinced Spade to make his first actual record?

952
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: He wanted to do it.

953
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: So is that Compton Posse? Yeah, yeah, he wanted to

954
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: do it. So what Spade did, Now, here's this is

955
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: this is a trip. Spade told Pooh Djot out DJ

956
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: Pool told poo so and then he already talked to

957
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: Taylor because Spade had some other thing.

958
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: Let's get stupid, let's get hyped for king.

959
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 3: It's King, indeed King t So Spade called me to

960
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: his house, so he started wing to write his parts.

961
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, let's write so because

962
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 3: Spade never wrote a rap in his life, you know,

963
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: so I started writing.

964
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: Some of the genius stuff. And so you had DJ

965
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: var r P DJ are yes Uh did his part.

966
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: Now stop listen. You know he Var did his ship,

967
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: but called Dra Dre. We need to come to the

968
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: studio and come on. That record had Yellow Dre and

969
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: Pool on it, doing the beats and and mixing up,

970
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: helping each other out. Audio achievements. It's crazy audio achievements.

971
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: And everybody was there, easy, everybody.

972
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: So when y'all made that record, can you being in

973
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: that session?

974
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: Everybody?

975
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: Everybody man, everybody was there and and once again everybody

976
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: know his genius, the genius love stuff, you know, and

977
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 3: Drey and them just mixed it down him and Pool,

978
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: you know, and Pool was hard too, man.

979
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: People. Pool was like.

980
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: He was dope.

981
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: You know what I'm gonna tell you just real quick,

982
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: I gotta throw this alley up the pool. Pool did

983
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: the dog Father album, and I think they snatched it

984
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: from him too early and didn't let him really do

985
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: what he wanted to do on there. Because Pool is

986
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 4: really a dope ass. Don't never get the credit. He

987
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: was with Bobcatch and all of them when they went

988
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: up to They never mixed them all. But he was

989
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: out there when they went to New York and made

990
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 4: that Pilgrigs out there. He was a part of all

991
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 4: that poo is that who is the ship? Yeah?

992
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: Pooh pooh pooh did it?

993
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: And and being in them kind of sessions is we

994
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 3: don't we're young.

995
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: It's niggas drinking forties. It's just a good time. It's

996
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: a good feel.

997
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: He in the booth, they were trying to tell Spade

998
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: how to wrap, you know, and trying to tell them

999
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: how it goes.

1000
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: You got to go to school to make it. These

1001
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: days they in class, get you some ads somebody time.

1002
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: You got King T and DJ Farr, Toddy T and

1003
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 3: me the Ada Superstars. So by the time you by

1004
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: the time we finished, let's take it to Greg.

1005
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Take it to Greg. When he put that suck on

1006
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: blew up.

1007
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: That was man, that was nineteen eighty eight, right, I'm

1008
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 4: gonna tell you that's when I came to California. I

1009
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: remember driving the homie Simon Vale with and he had

1010
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: a motherfucking what was the little jeeps? They had the

1011
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: Suzuki beating it and I heard that motherfucker going.

1012
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 5: Down they made. That's what made us start. That's what

1013
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 5: made me start. That was the sheep. Me and me

1014
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 5: and the homie from the hood, Bookie. We used to

1015
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 5: be in his garage and watch and had two turntables

1016
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 5: up on the pool table and nigga we.

1017
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: Would just make.

1018
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 5: We were just we got it from these niggas making

1019
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 5: and we went and made a tape about the hood

1020
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: drag knew and was just giving it to the Holmius and.

1021
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: And that's how we got it.

1022
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: That's how I got because we was in Fluida. Yeah.

1023
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 3: And you gotta understand too, a lot of times, girls

1024
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 3: was always instrumental because if the bitch is like your tape,

1025
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: the niggas automatically exactly. So I was sometimes I had

1026
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: a lot of girls I sold tapes to too, so

1027
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: it was cool.

1028
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: They, I mean, everybody was.

1029
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 5: That's where I got my tape from Yeah, one of

1030
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 5: my sister friends had it. You get me, because man,

1031
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 5: the motherfucker that, like I said, their motherfucking tapes were

1032
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 5: so instrumental into what I feel is the foundation of

1033
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 5: West Coast music. You get me, especially coming from Compton

1034
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 5: in La. If you was a hood nigga you grew up,

1035
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 5: if you from my timeline or before you grew up

1036
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 5: on that ship, there was like you said, there was

1037
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 5: nothing else. There was no fucking n w A and

1038
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 5: easy it was. It was Todd Spade, Ken Var, the

1039
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 5: Mixed Masters and all.

1040
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: That's all. I listened to Walk and Walking and tapes,

1041
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: and that is.

1042
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: What I want to get into, man, like real quick,

1043
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 4: because I know time ago. This two story is so crazy.

1044
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: So let's go back in the pool, King t and

1045
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 4: y'all like the Compton Posse, Right.

1046
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: I wasn't a part of the Compton posse. That was

1047
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: Spade and he had like who was part of Compton posse?

1048
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: Uh was that Pool?

1049
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 3: Who was part of that pool? Pool was making the beach?

1050
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: Ye had King ch Tea.

1051
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: Varvar.

1052
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll be forgetting stuff, but it was a couple

1053
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: of mocats, mo love.

1054
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: It was jazzy red.

1055
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

1056
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 4: It was a lot of people. So y'all so you

1057
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 4: wasn't in the comp deposse, but y'all was frequent collaborators.

1058
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: We were just all friends. I always did my own thing.

1059
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: Spade had a whole different crew, you know, because remember

1060
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: Spade was from one five one.

1061
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: It was Bloods, you know.

1062
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: So it was almost me and Spade with just parties

1063
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: together and just go back home.

1064
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: So you're telling me some stuff I didn't know. So

1065
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 4: Spade was from one five from Ken was from there too,

1066
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: you know. And back then with nobody really tripping, like

1067
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: nobody cared nigga, it was it was it was.

1068
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: He was making your money. He was making your money.

1069
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 5: Because I know that's what I felt about back in

1070
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 5: those that the late seventies early eighties. Niggas just clicked up.

1071
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 5: It's just niggas, okay, because I wasn't. I went to

1072
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 5: school with a lot of on.

1073
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 3: The block that was one of the best blocks in comedy.

1074
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: And I remember, being younger, technically tracked new was Westpark

1075
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: Py Route because my neighbor was the leader, Gary Davis.

1076
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: He was like, you go, everybody lifting weights, you know.

1077
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: I didn't understand the game ship. I only want to understood.

1078
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: That was my homeboy. My best little buddy was brothers

1079
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: leave brother, shout out brother, brother.

1080
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: That's my nigga man.

1081
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: Brother taught me how to be many that shout out

1082
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: bro man, that's one of the that's my o g

1083
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: that nigga talk.

1084
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: Man.

1085
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 3: I didn't learn how to be managed. But I'm on

1086
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: a girl anohing. I thought with brother pit of me

1087
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: of a track lud. He was so advanced in us, man,

1088
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: it was ridiculous. But I love you, brother, But I

1089
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: just was never. I was into the street thing, but

1090
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: I just was never into like the gang side and stuff.

1091
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: Now they work, you know, but I just I like

1092
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: the girls, you know. So I just and plus I

1093
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 3: was one of the dudes scared of getting shot or something,

1094
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: you know. But when that dope game came in and

1095
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: these records from grand Master Flash and you know, Grandmaster

1096
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: Mellie Mail, it just changed me.

1097
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1098
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: I wanted this is what I want to do, you know.

1099
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: And then it was so much going on.

1100
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 3: Motherfucking We always had a crackhead story or some chick

1101
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 3: some something some something.

1102
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: So this is what I'm gonna rap about, you know.

1103
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: And it was pretty good. Man. Yeah.

1104
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: I don't think people go ever realize, Man, how much

1105
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 4: crack impacted everybody come up.

1106
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 2: In the eighties. Everybody had money, nigga.

1107
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 4: I'm telling everybody had.

1108
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 5: Money, dog, and it was you know, everybody, even I,

1109
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 5: even I tried to dabble in the little crack selling

1110
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 5: every now and then.

1111
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: It was just.

1112
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 4: It was hard.

1113
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: It was just infested everywhere.

1114
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 5: Man.

1115
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: It was just to me, it was like a code

1116
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: of passage.

1117
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 5: Man, if you was in the neighborhood and you was

1118
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 5: walking that line, you didne sold you a little sack

1119
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 5: or two every now and then.

1120
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: Everybody. It was just it was just the way of

1121
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: life in the hood. I tried, I tried.

1122
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: I tried to stay away from it, but my friends

1123
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 3: was in it, and I could never get away from

1124
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: my friends. So bad around take off, I do the

1125
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: one show. So now I gotta do a tour. I

1126
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: called it to a tour. Now the tour is the

1127
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: fat boys choice, uh choice. Some sees boogie boys, fly girls.

1128
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: Fly girl, You ain't fresh, you ain't resh.

1129
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: And I'm set to go on Sunday on a Sunday house,

1130
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: get raided on Friday, and I knew something was up

1131
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: because the crackhead came to the door with a microwave.

1132
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: Now the ain't no damn where we're gonna buy that microwave. Yes, indeed,

1133
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: you know, even though we got two in the house.

1134
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: So we give her that.

1135
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: We give her twenty dollars. Now they got that gives

1136
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: them permission. This is on a Thursday to come in

1137
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: the house. So we got pet boys in the back.

1138
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: We ain't here and there bark know nothing. Next thing

1139
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: I know, nigga, they pull a tow truck on the yard.

1140
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: Were going to the door to get ready to grab

1141
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: a door. They snatched the bars off the mon fucker.

1142
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: Everybody out, everybody out. So now I'm thinking, God damn,

1143
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: I gotta go on tour. So I'm not still not

1144
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: tripping because I never did nothing. I'm thinking, I'm just

1145
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: gonna go to jail, nigga for the weekend, and I'm good.

1146
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: You know, they just go and go and they gonna

1147
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: let me go.

1148
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: So me and Mike into jail.

1149
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 3: It said it's called Firestone. That was the ship got

1150
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: a firestone. They took us to Firestone from the hood.

1151
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: From the hood, nigga. They took us from because it

1152
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: was course and that raided us.

1153
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: God, they took us the firestone.

1154
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: They raided, dudes in the block, dudes in the Watts,

1155
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: they raided everybody trying to see it's this is some

1156
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: type of organization.

1157
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: So they got us all down there.

1158
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at the paper, the bill paper, so

1159
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh, this one hundred thousand.

1160
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: My mama, she got money. She finished, Come get me.

1161
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: Mike looked at me and said, nigga, you better keep

1162
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: counting them zeros. Nigga, that bill was a million dollars, like,

1163
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: oh da dad, they wanted to cry that. It was like, nigga,

1164
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: you bet not what they raided the house for. They

1165
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: thought it was a dope house because so many people.

1166
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: It was just.

1167
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 4: It was just crazy.

1168
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: Tell you something. Back then, traffic could get your ass raided.

1169
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: You could just happen.

1170
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: And that was just like the house on Barclay.

1171
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pole go to the broomfields. It was just traffic.

1172
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: But they raised that.

1173
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 5: They nigga, they pull up on that motherfucker like every

1174
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 5: other day because just seeing like damn, five minutes ago,

1175
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 5: three niggas went out and we're sitting in there.

1176
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: Minutes ago were.

1177
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: Sitting in there. They say, Okay, we finishing y'all to

1178
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: the county. I said, what do you mean?

1179
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: They tend to take us to the county. Them niggas

1180
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 3: done been to jail. I ain't ever ben to. They like,

1181
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: I'll really go to the count anyway. His nigga like, nigga,

1182
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: take me to the county. So we go to the county. Uh,

1183
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: they processes got us on a bump, nigga. Some nigga

1184
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 3: raise up, say, hey, I heard Toddy t in here

1185
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 3: me in my head like, oh God, these niggas, niggas

1186
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: feel the fuck they feel the fuck with me.

1187
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: Right Mike, he right here.

1188
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: I said, all damn, I'm scared of the motherfucker. The

1189
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: niggas come up and the niggas say they didn't say

1190
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 3: the new ship.

1191
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: Nigga, bust that straight shit. Fuck it. Niggas started hitting

1192
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: the bumps, boom, nigga. I started wrapping the o g

1193
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: battle around.

1194
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: I was the man after that nigga.

1195
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: And they took us to yell in our drugs. Nigga draws,

1196
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 3: no shoes, no nothing, just threw some too little ship

1197
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: to us. You know, we couldn't even fit that ship.

1198
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: So one dude walked up to me. He was like,

1199
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: tight to you been to j for? I said, now,

1200
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 3: he said, look, I ain't had no shoes. Whoever that

1201
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: dude was shout out to him. He had some brand

1202
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: new Adidas that nigga said. They was big as fuck.

1203
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: He was like, look, man, you can have my shoes

1204
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 3: because I'm going to camp like Gino somewhere. We can't

1205
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: wear these, and he gave them to me.

1206
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: Every time something got ready to pop, they'd be like,

1207
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: ty t, you know, y'all ain't with that ship over there.

1208
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: The Coney's finna go down, you know, you see the

1209
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: Mexicans and Black fight so and they always got the

1210
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: jail house lawyers like, nigga, you ain't doing nothing, Oh

1211
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: niggas just the week and.

1212
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: It's your first time, Nigga, you ain't everga?

1213
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 4: You're about now? Did you get to get out on time?

1214
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 4: Going to it? Now?

1215
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: What happened was I had to send my homeboy DJ

1216
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: Star shout out Lee Walker.

1217
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: I had to see his star to be.

1218
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 3: Me to Washington, And of course he did a horrible

1219
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: job because the next day we were somewhere else. I

1220
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 3: don't know if it was Phoenix and when they said

1221
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: Toddy t Marky D Prince Marky D from the Fat

1222
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: Boys sitting there watching, and then he seen me.

1223
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 2: I just rocked the fuck out the crowd. And then

1224
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: I come up say said, I knew that couldn't have

1225
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: been you at the Washington dude last night. I started laughing.

1226
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, man, I got into a little truck

1227
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: because I got out of jail Monday morning, so I

1228
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: had to go straight to the airport and so when

1229
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: I got the airport, I met them out there.

1230
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: But you know it was cool.

1231
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: Man.

1232
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: That was my boy too.

1233
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 3: Markey D would call me from time to time to

1234
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 3: see how I'm doing. You know, it wasn't like I said,

1235
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't no West Coast East cause that shit was

1236
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: way before that.

1237
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: Everybody got along, indeed.

1238
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 3: You know, everybody got along, and like I said, said, like, uh,

1239
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: Short was like my main and we didn't say a lot,

1240
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: but I just I just felt so much for Short

1241
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: because Short was the beginning with me.

1242
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: It was us too, you know what I'm saying.

1243
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, I love too Short and

1244
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 3: I love you forty two because they always still give

1245
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: me my prop.

1246
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, too Short as my guy man and Too

1247
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 4: Short as one of them dudes. Man, whenever you text

1248
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 4: them call, he always pick up the phone. Definitely, he

1249
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 4: always pick up the phone. That's like, that's who. That's

1250
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 4: like me with Premiere. I can call Premiere and it's nothing.

1251
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 4: You feel me.

1252
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 3: And then when they did the what was that the verses?

1253
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 3: They did the verses and then all a sudden theyggas start.

1254
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 2: Blowing you up. Nigga, Too Short just shot you out

1255
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: at the end of it. I said, that was my.

1256
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 4: Dude, y'all. Do you know what that's crazy time? You're

1257
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 4: all from the same era, dog, that's what you know.

1258
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 4: And that's why I just be like, man, I'm really big, man,

1259
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 4: I'm reserving its history because without this man, maybe it's

1260
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 4: not now. Maybe if the w maybe it's not. No

1261
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 4: you know, no game.

1262
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 3: Well remember n w A decided to go to go

1263
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: more streets. You know after that too, they you know,

1264
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 3: Dre didn't leave the record crew to do more record

1265
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: cruise ship. You know, Dre's a motherfucking genius.

1266
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 5: Man.

1267
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: He did what he wanted to do. He wanted to

1268
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: turn easing them into you know, straight.

1269
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 5: Game was did you see that transition of him going

1270
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 5: from the Linzo w recon cruise ship when they.

1271
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 3: Started doing the Boys in the Hood and all that ship.

1272
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, because they had a they had

1273
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: a crew. They had a DJ crew Easy. A lot

1274
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: of people don't know that him and Dred had a

1275
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 3: DJ crew. They was called high Power, him yelling and

1276
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: uh Dred and they would go DJ like Lynwood.

1277
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: High all that.

1278
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: That's when he first stopped messing with lines on them

1279
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: and then they start I guess some type of way.

1280
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: He talked Easy into doing it, you know. So you know,

1281
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: me and Eric was partners. You know.

1282
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 3: I'm like I said at that time when they did records,

1283
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: everybody was in the studio with them. To me right now,

1284
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck with nobody say. Rin is

1285
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: one of the hardest niggas. Oh yeah, period period.

1286
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: He just one of them dudes. Don't want to be

1287
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: in front of the cameras and all that.

1288
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 5: But shout out to Rin, Shout out to my nigga, Chill.

1289
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, him and Chill was real good friends.

1290
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: And Rent is just like that.

1291
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 2: I like Rin Man was hard.

1292
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 5: Sometimes niggas just feel like they never got the respect

1293
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 5: they deserve. And so when you when you go through

1294
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 5: time and you look through history and through the future, past, present,

1295
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 5: and now, I think niggas get comfortable about what has happened.

1296
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: That's just like me.

1297
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 5: I tell you all the time, stop calling me that ship.

1298
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 5: Stop saying I'm an icon, and I did this ship

1299
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 5: and did because I am comfortable with what has happened.

1300
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: That is me.

1301
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: That is mean.

1302
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 4: That's why.

1303
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: That's why people used to always say you never see

1304
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: him on podcasts, And I know that.

1305
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 5: That's why I said, I know that about Todd. Todd

1306
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 5: is like, I'm comfortable with what happened. I don't look

1307
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 5: at it like damn my nigga, you should platinum, triple platinum,

1308
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 5: and you better than these niggas, and and you started

1309
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 5: it and you was the fourth I see the same ship, nigga,

1310
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 5: you feel me. I'm satisfied about my contribution to the game.

1311
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: So the game you.

1312
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: Y'all gotta steal. Accept the I'm always telling you.

1313
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 5: I like I said, I'm I'm like you when it

1314
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 5: come to him because he him Spade.

1315
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: That was our fucking foundation.

1316
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go like, not no disrespect, easy Dre,

1317
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 5: but that right there, same neighborhood.

1318
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: Same same niggas.

1319
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: I know, same niggas I walked the streets with.

1320
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 5: And on top of that, he know what we went

1321
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 5: through as poverty streaking young men in fucking Compton, California.

1322
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 5: He saw it first. Even before I got to see it,

1323
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 5: they were seeing it. I never got my house raided.

1324
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 5: I've been of the house that got raided, but you

1325
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 5: get he was right there with the walk of life.

1326
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 5: He know the niggas, he know the terms, he know

1327
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 5: the people, the actions. So it's always good to let

1328
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 5: people understand the history. Like motherfuckers that hear this, and

1329
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 5: they gonna be like, damn, he came before Easy and

1330
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 5: NWA and Spade and Todd and hearing all this history.

1331
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: Of Compton and whatever. A lot of niggas didn't know

1332
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 1: that shit.

1333
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 5: And that's why I always every time time I did it,

1334
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 5: when I would do an l A show, and I

1335
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: know it's significant.

1336
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: I get on the phone tied, please come do bad

1337
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: around for me.

1338
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: You get me.

1339
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: Niggas need to know that, Like.

1340
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, people need to know that, and people like even

1341
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 4: like Rin Rin, you need to know you the ship

1342
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 4: cause I'm be real becuse you don't heard me say

1343
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 4: it multiple times, Cube like I take it away from

1344
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 4: Q because.

1345
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: My top ripper.

1346
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: You know, no, no, no no, not to cut you

1347
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: off right, but if you'd have gave me a list,

1348
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: he's my number one.

1349
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 4: Get Cube. I'm gonna tell you.

1350
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 5: I love Kendrick, and I love Snoop and Game and

1351
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 5: all my niggas, Nipsey rest in peace, but Cube is

1352
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 5: my l a number one.

1353
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you a lot of these young cats

1354
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 4: wouldn't around the field Cube's impact. But at that time,

1355
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 4: Dog Cube was just like that like when you listen

1356
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 4: to Grand Finale on.

1357
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: There, you know, like we got like corrupt came along

1358
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: and we start like corrupt. Cube was our corrupt.

1359
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It's hard. Was Cube was hard

1360
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 4: Dog And I'm gonna tell you Wren was a was

1361
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 4: a real m C dog. Wren ship was the ship

1362
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: to the red Flow was cold.

1363
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 5: N you know you're gonna hear easy. You know you're

1364
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 5: gonna hear Dre. Wren was that nigga that you was

1365
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 5: waiting like this nigga f there. I'm like, damn, I'm

1366
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 5: gonna to beat the sixth nigga with the whole.

1367
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: Wing was hard saying I thought the niggas was hard

1368
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: when him and Dre used to switch back.

1369
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 5: Off former contents in the house, that was hard.

1370
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 4: But let me tell you this though, Dog on the

1371
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,560
Speaker 4: last one when they was do the n w A

1372
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 4: ship and they was gonna put snoop in it, Rien

1373
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 4: busted everybody's asking that record cubes first.

1374
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 2: It was hard.

1375
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 4: Everybody was hard. But Rihen said that motherfuckers thought the

1376
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 4: pussy had a pair of luck slept the ass. That's

1377
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 4: alarming because now she's on a worm like Carmen. That

1378
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 4: nigga killed him before we get out of here. I

1379
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 4: know this is off left or off side, and I'm

1380
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 4: just gonna go back to this list right quick. They

1381
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 4: say LA rappers, right, and to us, we know LA

1382
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 4: is considered to the masses of people. You can put

1383
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 4: Compton in LA. You can put Watts in LA, South

1384
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 4: Central and Long Beach, right. We had a lot of

1385
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 4: rappers outside of those, you know, like I said, when

1386
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 4: you go to complexes fifty lists, they don't mention my nigga,

1387
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 4: they don't mention the tone looks yeah, they don't know. Dog,

1388
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 4: you gotta think some of the niggas made the list

1389
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 4: twenty three years old.

1390
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 5: They mentioned cocaine, which is outside of La Pomona is

1391
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 5: still considered, but they don't mention one eight.

1392
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say they didn't even is is it?

1393
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 5: Is it because it's Pomona, But then I go no,

1394
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 5: because then they got sugar Free on the list. I'm

1395
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 5: gonna tell you what, living like Hustlers above the Lost

1396
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 5: first album was the Ship. To me, it was hard murder, rap,

1397
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 5: fucking on nothing.

1398
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 1: That ship was hard.

1399
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 5: You, Like I said, you have to understand the nature

1400
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 5: of the editor or whoever came up with this list,

1401
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 5: their age, their their their foundation of what they considered,

1402
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 5: because I'm pretty sure whoever did this list they listen to.

1403
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 2: And I like that, and I'm gonna be a hundred

1404
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: I liked it. I don't know where Quick landed on.

1405
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 1: The Quick landed in the top ten on the complex

1406
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: this list.

1407
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, because Quick was hard than the motherfucker and

1408
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 3: I listened to Quick made another street tape that was

1409
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: good too.

1410
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: Yeah he had the street tape. Yeah that was nicely. Yeah. Yeah.

1411
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 5: We didn't get to we as comptons most wanted. We

1412
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 5: didn't get to go the mixtape route. Yeah, because once

1413
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 5: we got once we linked up with Slip and Unknown

1414
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 5: and Lonzo, we automatically got thrown into the studio.

1415
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: So was the first one one time I got for

1416
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: them up.

1417
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 5: No, my first song was with Linzo rhymes too Funky

1418
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,520
Speaker 5: Because I remember.

1419
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,879
Speaker 2: You was on a record label. I was on Capitol.

1420
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: It was a Capitol record.

1421
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 5: Orpheus Capital. Basically I was in the studio. Well, I

1422
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 5: was in the garage with Bookie, with one of the

1423
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 5: homies from the hood.

1424
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1425
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 5: I met Bookie going to school. Uh, he was fucking

1426
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 5: with one of my people. He brought me to the hood. Yeah,

1427
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 5: this is history. But me and him started because he

1428
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 5: had a love for rap. I was a young dude, thirteen.

1429
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 5: I just came back from a family reunion and in Mississippi,

1430
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 5: I know shit about rap music. I'm listening to motherfucking

1431
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 5: Pat Benatar and Dan Duran. That's how all we had

1432
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 5: was Casey Caseon in the top forty and shit like that.

1433
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 5: We had motherfucking Kiss FM and shit like that. I

1434
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 5: didn't know about rap music and none of that shit.

1435
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 5: I went to Guffport, Mississippi, and my cousin put me

1436
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 5: up on Sucker m c's. That's when it started happening,

1437
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 5: and I'm like, what the fuck is? So I came

1438
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 5: home and by the time I came home in junior

1439
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: high hit.

1440
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 2: I hit it.

1441
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god.

1442
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 5: So me and the homie Bookie when I started claiming

1443
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 5: trag new we in the garage, you know, and we're

1444
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 5: doing the same thing. We're rapping off of in instrumentals

1445
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 5: and shit like that.

1446
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: And I met Chill. I met Chill through church.

1447
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 5: And my cousin used to go to church, and you know,

1448
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 5: churches used to have all kind of functions, softball games, recitals,

1449
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 5: choir rehearsals, wally, little girls was at So Nigga, I

1450
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 5: went to church with my cousin just as a ride along,

1451
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 5: not to be in church, but I'm going my little

1452
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 5: my cousin female shout out my cousin, Dorothy Nigga. She

1453
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 5: had the brand new whip, motherfucking brand new tape decking

1454
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 5: that motherfucker. So she would let me get off all

1455
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 5: my rap shit on her because everybody else was adults

1456
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 5: going to church and wom she was the young cousin.

1457
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: So she pulled up eight come roll with me.

1458
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 5: I got to bang my recordings off of Ca and

1459
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 5: her tape that I had nowhere.

1460
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: Else to play my ship.

1461
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: I can't play it in the house.

1462
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: Moms don't want to hear that ship.

1463
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 5: So Nigga, I get in the car with Dorothy Nigga

1464
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 5: popping the Fly Girls, sucking anything I had taped off

1465
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 5: of kDa, And that's when I found my first tid tape.

1466
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 5: So she used to let me bang that motherfucker talking

1467
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 5: about selling dope and come out at night rolling up

1468
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 5: the church banging that. So that's how I met Chill.

1469
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 5: And from meeting Chill, I start writing, like Nigga, I'm

1470
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 5: just gonna start writing Nigga. From from from the garage

1471
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 5: with Bookie to doing motherfucking high school, motherfucking football game

1472
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 5: half times, Nigga, they bring me out at half times

1473
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 5: a Nigga, I done rolle a rap about the football team.

1474
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm liking this ship, Nigga.

1475
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 5: People at school nor So Nigga Bio lived across the

1476
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 5: street from this girl who Wren was dating, had a

1477
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 5: kid by Wren used to pull up every other day

1478
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 5: and so we looking at Nigga. See when Nikka, like Chill,

1479
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 5: you live across the street, Wren started noticing us so

1480
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 5: Hn with Nigga. You look at early n w A albums, contius,

1481
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 5: most shout out contence, most wanted. The man knew we

1482
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 5: was trying to get on, and from there everybody there

1483
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 5: was some singing niggas that also lived there, and they

1484
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 5: trying to get on because you know, the singing groups

1485
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 5: was cracking crack then it was cracking, so fucking.

1486
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: They knew we was trying to rap. We knew they

1487
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: were singing niggas.

1488
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 5: Had a meeting with Linzo one day and Nigga, we

1489
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 5: just happened to jump in the back seat and I

1490
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 5: had the fucking tape on me that I me and

1491
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 5: Chill I did my first rap in the girl Ds.

1492
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 5: Nigga had it on the cassette tape and took that

1493
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 5: motherfucker with me the Lonzos and Nigga played that mother.

1494
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: Nigga ship. Nigga, I was busting off of Marvin.

1495
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: Gay Boom boom boom boom boom.

1496
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 5: Nigga, Nigga what that tape in the who Nigga's somebody

1497
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 5: motherfucking Junkyard trash or something something. But from there we

1498
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 5: got to meet Lonzo a known happened to be there,

1499
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 5: Slip happened to be there.

1500
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: The rest is history. Lonzo was you know, you you

1501
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: see in the movie Fuck that Gangster ship.

1502
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 1: Fuck that ship.

1503
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: But at that time them niggas broke. Todd was out.

1504
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 5: Easy boys in the hood was out, so he going

1505
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 5: and he capitalized off of this gangster ship. So he

1506
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 5: put together a comptant compilation. It was just all just

1507
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 5: nobody acts. But we got a we got a song

1508
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 5: on there and it's called Rhyn's two Funky.

1509
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 3: Wass too Funky. You know, I ain't never been able

1510
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 3: to watch that n w A movie like twice. That

1511
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 3: ship was so touching to me. But some of that

1512
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 3: ship was kind of boyishit too, because I was looking

1513
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: at the park when Easy kick the bars out from

1514
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 3: the inside.

1515
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 2: You can't kick the dope bars was hard than the

1516
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: to turn that. When I first was watching it, I

1517
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is boyish.

1518
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you.

1519
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 3: The more I watched it, I just like it got

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01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: so touching, just because I started reminiscing on all the

1521
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 3: all of us in the studio, just all of us

1522
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 3: people just sitting around.

1523
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 2: You know, the times I was with them you know,

1524
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn, it was the pool parties

1525
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: that all that, the pool parties. Oh god, the tapes.

1526
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: We go for hours.

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 4: Man, this is your first interview, man, if I'm not,

1528
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong, you

1529
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 4: did the only one. Yeahnes with them don't count. Yeah,

1530
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 4: you know that's that family. That's family right there. But

1531
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 4: you don't just come sit down with anybody. Dog. And

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01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 4: I really appreciate you, man, because definitely this is real

1533
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 4: pivotal man. It's a lot of history. And we could

1534
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 4: have probably went on for like four or five more hours, man,

1535
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 4: because there's so much more stuff. Man. But now you

1536
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 4: know we got this door open, man. We you know

1537
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 4: you can come on again. Man, you know.

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01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it was just I advocated so much

1539
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 5: for this interview because and not that it's an interview,

1540
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 5: because we hate to say that we interview niggas. We

1541
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 5: like to bring niggas on and just conversate like we're

1542
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 5: sitting in the garage after the conversation.

1543
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: But it's pivotal because of.

1544
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 5: Like you were saying the other day about how Compton

1545
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 5: is so significant.

1546
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 4: Yes, it's just significant.

1547
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 5: And not just even hip hop, but just in a

1548
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 5: hole in a whole after Yeah, if you go back

1549
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 5: and you pull up the last one hundred years of

1550
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 5: motherfuckers who then came through Compton as far as sports figures, artists,

1551
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 5: you know hip hop, motherfucker nigga, We got motherfucking g's.

1552
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 5: We got niggas who ain't even done that, who are

1553
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 5: historically significant in our streets. You can name niggas like

1554
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 5: Gangster Mike Williams and niggas like brother Niggas are significant

1555
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 5: to our history and foundation that a lot of people

1556
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 5: don't know. And it's good that somebody is able to

1557
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 5: connect those dots because you know, a lot of motherfuckers

1558
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 5: go or Kendrick, or they'll go all the game, or

1559
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 5: they'll go to as far as maybe even go Wanted,

1560
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 5: and then.

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: The buck stops, like there's more to and then you

1562
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: get me before we go.

1563
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 4: Man, I gotta say this, and this ain't to cause

1564
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 4: no controversy or nothing, but and I'm leaving this everybody.

1565
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 4: When y' all do these lists bring a will round

1566
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 4: the group of people together. It ain't no thing called

1567
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 4: reach out to eight. Reach out to me. Don't just

1568
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 4: get people who up under a certain eggs because.

1569
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 5: You need or you need to get or you need

1570
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 5: to get people that are age appropriate exactly who can

1571
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 5: connect the dots from the inception of West Coast hip

1572
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 5: hop or any even if you do New York or

1573
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 5: you're Borough down South or you have to be able

1574
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 5: to reach out to someone who can go.

1575
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 1: From the beginning of time, you get me, not go.

1576
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 5: Oh from nineteen ninety to ninety you have to get

1577
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 5: somebody who can go. But wait a minute, I didn't.

1578
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 5: I don't listen to shit butt shit from ninety on

1579
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 5: back to second.

1580
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you get most disrespectful shit I've seen

1581
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 4: a long time, doog. But then we go get out

1582
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 4: of here, going over the thing. But there is no

1583
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,759
Speaker 4: place ever in this universe, not a moment, not a second,

1584
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 4: that Draco the Ruler was ever more significant than the

1585
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 4: motherfucking mac tin.

1586
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, he certain city is just disrespect like I said,

1587
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: but it's a different times.

1588
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 2: It's a different time and the s agena and it's

1589
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 2: like I said, you are now.

1590
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 5: You are now basically playing on on on the on

1591
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 5: the foundation of dudes that when you respected hip hop

1592
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 5: like you still do. But niggas was wasn't even born,

1593
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 5: but some dudes weren't born in some dudes was two

1594
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 5: years old. And how can a kid two years old

1595
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 5: from you twenty years ago he was two, how can

1596
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 5: he significantly understand how a fucking tone look or a

1597
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 5: young yng see or a toddy tam meant to you

1598
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 5: in your fucking growth.

1599
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 4: And not just to me, but just the hip hop period,

1600
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 4: because if it ain't no fucking tiddy t it's not

1601
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 4: nothing the mother niggas.

1602
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 5: It's not a it's not a lot of of of

1603
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 5: it's not a lot of us, it's not a lot

1604
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 5: of c MW's. It's not a lot of nw. You

1605
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 5: had to follow you get me. It's like the passing

1606
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 5: of the batime. They say you had to be able

1607
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 5: to get it from somebody like I'm not going like, well,

1608
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 5: I know you didn't invent the ship, so where did

1609
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 5: it start from? And that's the start. And a lot

1610
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 5: of niggas you can't act somebody who's thirty.

1611
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 4: And you feel me, Tod, there's not no disrespect to

1612
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 4: Drake because Raco did his thing. No, there's nothing disrespect.

1613
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: Something And I don't give errors.

1614
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 5: I respect and love every motherfucking artist represents southern California

1615
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 5: because in one fashion of another, whether it was your dad,

1616
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 5: your grand and dad, your uncle, they know the foundation

1617
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 5: of where we started. You get me, I don't give

1618
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 5: a fuck if a niggas a preacher, or he working

1619
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 5: at the ore refinery or.

1620
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: He retired right now.

1621
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 5: If he's my age and he your uncle, brother, cousin, father,

1622
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 5: he knows significantly what we went through as being young

1623
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 5: men growing up in south central l A counting lone

1624
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 5: beat your watts.

1625
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: We went through fucking hell and.

1626
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: Most and most and I'm being real, most young younger

1627
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 3: rappers like Kendrick and.

1628
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: And uh y g. You know, if you really talk

1629
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 2: to him, they'll tell you my daddy told us.

1630
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: Y'all.

1631
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 5: Stories don't tell you when my daddy or my uncle

1632
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 5: or back when my mama or blah.

1633
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 2: Blah called the originally looking for on in the beginning.

1634
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: And that's how we do.

1635
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: And he was like, come on, man, I know who

1636
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: you is.

1637
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, on that note, we aut of here time man again, Man,

1638
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 4: thank you man, you'll.

1639
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: Talking me into this, Yesterded And on that note, yes.

1640
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 4: Well, that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles

1641
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,479
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1642
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01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,439
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1645
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 4: The Gangst Chronicles podcasts of Norman Steell, Aaron M. C a. Tyler.

1646
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,320
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1648
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