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Speaker 3: You are listening to Darky Comes Late with Me Heidi
Speaker 3: Hollis on the iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM. Here
Speaker 3: are normal podcast network. Welcome to my show. Remember each
Speaker 3: week this is where you go to when you want
Speaker 3: to learn the latest on what is going on in
Speaker 3: your neighbor's home. When it comes to anything of the ordinary,
Speaker 3: from shadow people to hat Man hello Bigfoot, to ghosts, cryptids,
Speaker 3: I mean anything and everything the far between. I'm going
Speaker 3: to get those emails from you, the listener, and I
Speaker 3: always welcome you to send your stories into me. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying I'm a guru, I'm not a know it all.
Speaker 3: I'm just someone who has been there, seeing that, experienced it,
Speaker 3: freaked out, found some answers, wrote about it, got over it,
Speaker 3: and now I'm trying to help others do the same
Speaker 3: darn thing and figure out this world. To go to
Speaker 3: Heidihollis dot com or shadow folks dot com and tell
Speaker 3: me every bit of detail that you'd like. I don't
Speaker 3: care what it is. Sometimes it paints a picture, and
Speaker 3: we love painted pictures here, don't we. We do we do?
Speaker 3: And if there is a picture you want to send,
Speaker 3: guess what. You can send it over through my personal email,
Speaker 3: which is Heidihollis at gmail dot com. And I mean,
Speaker 3: it is just amazing the areas that we get to
Speaker 3: cover on this show. And I never ever get to
Speaker 3: know exactly what's going on in these emails. I really
Speaker 3: grab them at random, I copy, I paste them, I
Speaker 3: put it in a document and I just go from there.
Speaker 3: If I see something the first line or something that
Speaker 3: catches my attention, I try to reach out and say, hey,
Speaker 3: what do you mean do you want this? Well? You
Speaker 3: know what can I do, especially if it's an emergency,
Speaker 3: because I do get those. I'm not a psychic. I
Speaker 3: am not a psychic. Yeah, I've seen a lot of stuff,
Speaker 3: but I really am a big believer that a lot
Speaker 3: of us are able to experience these things. But my
Speaker 3: super duper psychic friends would say no, not always. Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think that we're all like
Speaker 3: God's kids, and yeah, some of us are evolving, but
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm optimistic that way. So AnyWho, I
Speaker 3: want to remind you also, please go to any social
Speaker 3: media out there and put at one. Put a one
Speaker 3: in front of my names at one Heidi Hollis, and
Speaker 3: you will find me. So send me a message there.
Speaker 3: I do respond as much as I possibly can. And
Speaker 3: also I am a paranormal cartoonist. Uh huh The Outlanders
Speaker 3: Comic Go to the Outlanderscomic dot com or follow me
Speaker 3: on Instagram at the Outlander's Comic. Uh huh. You know,
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, guys, I have been getting so
Speaker 3: many emails. I was just on coast to coast am
Speaker 3: with George Nori, and once again the giant influx of folks.
Speaker 3: You know, because I'm hosting on coast now, I haven't
Speaker 3: been on the Big show as often. Okay, I don't
Speaker 3: think I have been since I've been hosting, and I
Speaker 3: jumped on there and people are like, where are you been.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I've been here this whole time. Listen to
Speaker 3: the announcements. Sometime it's all good, I understand. So I
Speaker 3: have a feeling there's a lot of newbies joining here
Speaker 3: on the show for the first time, so welcome. I
Speaker 3: have been here having a ball for the past almost
Speaker 3: three years hosting over here. Dark becomes light And I
Speaker 3: got to tell you, guys, the emails just like just
Speaker 3: when I think, oh, it's slowing, no, it jumps right
Speaker 3: up again. And boy, during COVID it was a really
Speaker 3: really hot mess out there, and really I get it.
Speaker 3: I mean, the dark things were feeding upon it. But
Speaker 3: you know what I got to tell you, I prefer
Speaker 3: the more positive stuff. I just call me biased angelic
Speaker 3: Jesus encounters, near death experience is all of that, because boy,
Speaker 3: I write on a lot of different topics and I
Speaker 3: get it. I named discovered, defined, trademark shadow people and
Speaker 3: the hat Man phenomenon, and a lot of people are
Speaker 3: suffering out there. So I am very humbled that you
Speaker 3: guys trust me with your stories and your emails. So
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, so keep those coming. But I
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna tell you something. I know if you
Speaker 3: experience these dark things, you are also capable of experience
Speaker 3: the light stuff. You are How do I know that?
Speaker 3: Personal experience and what I've learned. So I have to
Speaker 3: tell you guys, today is all about your emails because
Speaker 3: I have been slammed and I want to catch up
Speaker 3: on these and so guess what. We're dabbling into the
Speaker 3: outlandish corner. Oh yes we are, Oh yes we are.
Speaker 3: We are digging our hands around into the purple bag
Speaker 3: of emails. Uh huh, and uh I am just like
Speaker 3: I love seeing these giant emails. I love it because
Speaker 3: I just get all who we're gonna We're gonna have
Speaker 3: some wild stuff popping up here. And I don't mean like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm so glad people are suffering. No, getting those details,
Speaker 3: those details really it pulls us in, It really does.
Speaker 3: And I get a lot of appreciative emails from folks
Speaker 3: out there saying oh wow, you know, I'm so glad
Speaker 3: somebody mentioned this detail because it helped me in this way.
Speaker 3: So remember that, guys. Remember that. But before we get
Speaker 3: to your emails, I wanted to address a something. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I like to share a little bit of knowledge,
Speaker 3: personal experience, and stuff that have happened to me personally,
Speaker 3: because I think it's important to understand some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that I've had happened that got me to where
Speaker 3: I am right now, where I'm sitting here, you know,
Speaker 3: chatting on coast humbling. So get this. A lot of
Speaker 3: people are very much about saving the planet, which is
Speaker 3: really important. I am absolutely about recycling, energy, conservation, cleaning
Speaker 3: up our oceans, doing these things responsibly. All right, absolutely,
Speaker 3: people say, oh, is there global warming going on? I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, we could see there's always records being broken, right,
Speaker 3: something's going on. Okay, I'm not going to get political
Speaker 3: about it, but I do know that alien beings speak
Speaker 3: of these things. Yeah, how about that. There are a
Speaker 3: lot of people. I don't know if you guys are
Speaker 3: fully in tune with some of the conversations that people
Speaker 3: have with alien beings that claim do have been abducted
Speaker 3: but sometimes after a person has been abducted, suddenly they
Speaker 3: become a big advocate for saving the planet and they
Speaker 3: feel it's made them a better person. Of course, you know,
Speaker 3: like these experiences and whatnot, and so they're all in
Speaker 3: on this phenomena to save the planet. And which is
Speaker 3: it's beautiful? You know, it's beautiful. What was puzzling to
Speaker 3: me when I'd come across these stories sometimes, and I'm
Speaker 3: not saying all the time, but the word abducted means
Speaker 3: taken abruptly without you saying, yeah, I'll schedule that in
Speaker 3: all right, it's abrupt and I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: good thing. I don't think abduction is good in any scenario. Okay,
Speaker 3: So if a being took you, even if you knew them,
Speaker 3: even if you got comfortable with them, even if even
Speaker 3: if there's a lot of even ifs, and they're encouraging
Speaker 3: you to do that one thing to save the planet,
Speaker 3: why is that part of their agenda? Fully, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you something, And this is something like I
Speaker 3: couldn't have made this up on my own. I would
Speaker 3: have never gone there. I thought, Wow, what a cool
Speaker 3: element to come back wanting to do all this positive
Speaker 3: good stuff for the planet. Again positive, it's positive. Well,
Speaker 3: I had alien encounters, not abductions. I am not an abductee, okay,
Speaker 3: not that I recall remember or anything like that, Okay,
Speaker 3: but I had some encounters with positive beings, the ones
Speaker 3: who gave me information in regards to shadow people and
Speaker 3: hat man phenomenon. I got some of that information from
Speaker 3: memories that came back to me, not through hypnosis or
Speaker 3: anything like that, nothing like that, but on spontaneous recall.
Speaker 3: And I've learned more recently. I tried reaching out to
Speaker 3: somebody who does a lot of hypnosis and a lot
Speaker 3: of past life regression stuff, and I'm like, hey, have
Speaker 3: you had anybody you know, I've been doing talk ready
Speaker 3: for a long time and I've been trying to fight
Speaker 3: if anybody has had this out of nowhere recall of
Speaker 3: what they came here for, what they're supposed to be
Speaker 3: doing and all this stuff. And it's like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: that usually happens in childhood and not as an adult,
Speaker 3: you know, and spontaneous. You weren't being hypnotized or anything. No,
Speaker 3: just came and it's like not heard of it, okay,
Speaker 3: And this is somebody that's been doing regressive hypnosis for decades,
Speaker 3: so I was surprised. I can't come across anybody that's
Speaker 3: had that. But it's amazing. When you start talking about
Speaker 3: something really amazing, people say me too, me too, me too,
Speaker 3: me too, and it's like it's hard to know are
Speaker 3: they being authentic? Right? That's just been my experience. So
Speaker 3: I got these memories, and I also got this information
Speaker 3: from positive beings, and the beings indicated to me that
Speaker 3: the more naked beings I'm just stating, the more negative
Speaker 3: beings try to encourage saving the planet. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: well that seems backwards. How is that possible? And why
Speaker 3: what the negative ones want? It's like, well, of course
Speaker 3: they want to preserve what they want to conquer. They
Speaker 3: don't want us, you know, the humans destroying it. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I got that, and we should be doing this responsibly
Speaker 3: any anyways. But the positive beings also are like, you know,
Speaker 3: don't blow it up either, okay, But they indicated something
Speaker 3: to me. Okay, they indicated that this earth recycles itself.
Speaker 3: This is just something that it does. The only thing
Speaker 3: worth at this moment that's most important. I shouldn't say
Speaker 3: that's worth. That's most important to save are the souls
Speaker 3: because they are being threatened by this dark presence, shadow
Speaker 3: people hat man who have essentially infiltrated and possessed the
Speaker 3: more negative beings. Take that in, huh, I mean take
Speaker 3: that in what. I was stunned to learn that and
Speaker 3: to hear that from these beings. I didn't know what
Speaker 3: to think. I'm like, hold on pretty much a lot
Speaker 3: of people that I heard involved in being in contact
Speaker 3: with aliens. It was all abductions. You're telling me that
Speaker 3: this is negative, and wow, it's just backwards, absolutely backwards
Speaker 3: than what I thought. And I don't know what to
Speaker 3: tell you, guys, But when you think about it, if
Speaker 3: this planet goes through these cycles, and there's evidence of
Speaker 3: cycles happening, like lost knowledge and seeing ruins that were
Speaker 3: made from great things, something happened to wipe that all out? Right? Noah,
Speaker 3: it's dark. You know what was that about? And here
Speaker 3: we are still not knowing if we have a soul
Speaker 3: or not. So yeah, I guess that's important, and we
Speaker 3: should also be aware of threat to gets it all right,
Speaker 3: you guys, we're gonna get to the first break. You
Speaker 3: are listening to dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis
Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 3: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomeslight with Me
Speaker 3: Heidi Hollis on the iHeart Radio A Coast to Coast
Speaker 3: a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Well, I have to remind you, guys,
Speaker 3: don't forget to check out heidihouse dot com tell me
Speaker 3: your stories, and also don't forget to follow me on
Speaker 3: so many social media platforms. At one, Heidi that is Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 3: Uh huh, all of the above, TikTok, that's where you go.
Speaker 3: But I also want to remind you I am telling
Speaker 3: from the beginning of me. I guess you could say
Speaker 3: all of my stories on my YouTube channel and so yeah,
Speaker 3: you gotta go to YouTube dot com forward slash Heidi
Speaker 3: Hollis and we're gonna get down to it on there
Speaker 3: because it's important, all right. So you guys, I've got
Speaker 3: these emails I grabbed at random, and I got an
Speaker 3: eighty bitty email. This first one, it is the Outlanich corner.
Speaker 3: Just in case you didn't catch that. Uh, this one
Speaker 3: says dear Heidi, how do I get signed copies of
Speaker 3: some of your books. Thanks Daniel. Well, thanks Daniel, I
Speaker 3: appreciate you inquiring. I used to put those out and
Speaker 3: have them available on my website, but boy, oh boy,
Speaker 3: that was really hard to keep up with. But you
Speaker 3: know what, I just might bring it back and make
Speaker 3: it available that way. It's kind of neat to see
Speaker 3: people having once gone crazy for ebooks but now want
Speaker 3: the print books. And yeah, that's that's been kind of wild.
Speaker 3: And you know, I started doing paintings, okay, bigfoot paintings.
Speaker 3: I cannot believe how many people have been after that.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, wow, I did it for a charity,
Speaker 3: and the folks started reaching out to me through my
Speaker 3: website like you know, I have bit on thoes and
Speaker 3: I couldn't get it. And I'm like, so I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be putting some bigfoot paintings on my website. Uh huh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it because it's fun,
Speaker 3: all right, So I might do that. Thank you, Daniel.
Speaker 3: All right, now, we got a big email. We got
Speaker 3: a big email here, all right. This one says, Hi, Heidi, Hey,
Speaker 3: what's going on? Sorry this is a long one, but
Speaker 3: I need to share it. Hey, hey, we love those
Speaker 3: long ones. So it's okay. I was listening to one
Speaker 3: of your podcasts last night, episode eighty nine. Okay, I
Speaker 3: heard you read an email from a lady talking about
Speaker 3: the hag. Oh, okay, the old Hag, and thought I
Speaker 3: should share my experience with her. I've had experiences since
Speaker 3: I was a child. They always came in groups and
Speaker 3: would die down after a few days. Bo I don't
Speaker 3: get a lot of old Hag stories, but when I do,
Speaker 3: they always are one of the more creepier things. I
Speaker 3: guess something about witches comes to mind, right, and I
Speaker 3: just I don't know. It's like I just think of
Speaker 3: this horrible, wretched looking thing, and oddly enough for myself,
Speaker 3: I haven't met her, but when I first heard about
Speaker 3: her approaching people that I got the image straight in
Speaker 3: my head of this very small, wretched looking thing. But
Speaker 3: guess what, guys, there is a different kind of hag
Speaker 3: out there. She's younger and she seduces, and boy, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know what to tell you. It's
Speaker 3: really twisted stuff, all right. So continuing, where are we
Speaker 3: right here? Okay? Each time I was able to confront
Speaker 3: it and drive it away. Oh good, I seem to
Speaker 3: gain confidence versus being afraid. About a year ago, my
Speaker 3: wife and I were asleep. I woke up to a
Speaker 3: strange feeling and immediately knew that something was in our bedroom. Oh,
Speaker 3: I know that feeling. I know that feeling. It was
Speaker 3: cold as ice, and all I could move was my head.
Speaker 3: I turned towards my wife, who I thought was sitting
Speaker 3: up in bed. Oh, I got the ikey chills just now,
Speaker 3: ikey chills top of my thighs, I don't know why,
Speaker 3: and under my elbows. That's weird. That's when she spun around,
Speaker 3: and I immediately knew it was the hag as my
Speaker 3: wife was still lying down asleep. No no, oh, the
Speaker 3: chills just growing, growing, deep, deep growing. She moved her
Speaker 3: face close to mine. Oh no no, and began speaking
Speaker 3: to me in a strange language. This is something out
Speaker 3: of a horror film. Guys, and you're you're paralyzed. You
Speaker 3: can't do anything. I began telling her that she was
Speaker 3: not welcome and that she had no power over me.
Speaker 3: Then she began cackling and lunged to grab me. Oh gosh,
Speaker 3: you know I can't tell you, guys, right now, I
Speaker 3: feel like sick to my stomach. I'm sitting here reading
Speaker 3: this and I just feel sick. This is so horrible.
Speaker 3: I just when I read stuff. I have synesthesia. Okay.
Speaker 3: Synaesthesia is where you can experience different things with your senses.
Speaker 3: And I absolutely when people feel something, it hits me.
Speaker 3: It really does. And I have to take a step
Speaker 3: back sometimes because it could be really just ooh ooh.
Speaker 3: And this this email here is one of them. All right.
Speaker 3: I was able to break free of my paralysis and
Speaker 3: grabbed her by the arms. She let out a blood
Speaker 3: curdling screech and vanished. Well, way to go, oh, way
Speaker 3: to go? Oh, I gotta hear how how did you
Speaker 3: break this paralysis? I didn't hear anything about Jesus or anything.
Speaker 3: I wonder. I hope. Okay, we're gonna keep reading. Oh
Speaker 3: I want to see. Oh no, you're fast forwarding. You're
Speaker 3: fast forwarding. Oh, come on, how did you break for you?
Speaker 3: Your paralysis? All right? Fast forward to a week later,
Speaker 3: same situation. In bed and felt that something was in
Speaker 3: the room. I felt the air get colder and the
Speaker 3: paralysis set in. I opened my eyes to scan the room,
Speaker 3: and that is when I saw him. Oh, okay, you
Speaker 3: met her, You met her, boss, I'm sure okay. He
Speaker 3: started as a tall, dark shadow on the wall and
Speaker 3: slowly started moving across the room to the foot of
Speaker 3: my bed. He leaned over me and smiled the most
Speaker 3: evil grin I have ever seen. All Right, I know
Speaker 3: what that grin looks like. I know what it looks
Speaker 3: like if anybody saw that movie it Pennywise. The clown
Speaker 3: is like that. It's like beyond crazy shark teeth. It
Speaker 3: is their thin the overlap. He never had braces. It's disgusting,
Speaker 3: and it goes ear to ear abnormally large. That's that's
Speaker 3: all I can describe to you, guys. It's it's bad.
Speaker 3: He then started moving towards my wife, all while smiling
Speaker 3: at me. Okay. As he leaned over her and reached
Speaker 3: out to grab her, I lunged forward and grabbed him
Speaker 3: by the throat OOO and told him that I would
Speaker 3: destroy him. Well well, well, well, well wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Don't know why I said that, but I did. He
Speaker 3: then let out a gasp hiss and vanished. This is awesome.
Speaker 3: I have not seen either since then, but do catch
Speaker 3: glimpses of darting shadows everywhere I go. I guess it's
Speaker 3: just them keeping an eye on me for their master. Anyway,
Speaker 3: thank you for what you do. Oh my gosh, so heartwarming.
Speaker 3: I really enjoy listening to your podcast and hearing the
Speaker 3: experiences you share. Larry. Wow, Larry, I I am telling you, guys,
Speaker 3: my heart just warmed. It's just absolutely warmed. Thank you
Speaker 3: Larry for taking the time to let me know that
Speaker 3: the message is reaching people, you know. Oh you know,
Speaker 3: I can't help it to get emotion and sometimes coming
Speaker 3: across us, it is just even if it helped just
Speaker 3: one person, guys, just one, it has been worth it
Speaker 3: because these things are aiming to take souls. Okay, people
Speaker 3: freak out when they see a pet in the road
Speaker 3: getting hit. You know, they are more concerned, and we're
Speaker 3: ready to rush out there to help a pet. I
Speaker 3: feel sometimes versus a human and we're losing souls literally,
Speaker 3: my goodness. You know. I tell people there's something to
Speaker 3: be said about the human potential. All right. These things
Speaker 3: come when they got you pinned in the thick of
Speaker 3: the night most times, and you're paralyzed, and they play
Speaker 3: upon your fears like I'm going for your wife and
Speaker 3: I'm keep smiling the whole way. I don't know what
Speaker 3: you did to break it, but your human potential. If
Speaker 3: I didn't hear anything you're saying about Jesus to break this,
Speaker 3: that is my go to. But I have heard of
Speaker 3: people their will being so strong that they can break
Speaker 3: that hold. So I am I'm impressed. And yeah, seeing
Speaker 3: these shadow things coming and going, they're looking for a
Speaker 3: way in. They're patient, they try to find a way in.
Speaker 3: But you've proven that you did away with one of
Speaker 3: the minions for hat Man, and that was that wretched
Speaker 3: hag And so she sent her boss like, take care
Speaker 3: of him, boss, he's too big for his breeches. Well,
Speaker 3: hat Man couldn't handle you either. No, something so spirit
Speaker 3: of God in you, I'd say, Larry, Because we have
Speaker 3: that spark of lightness? Do we do? And where's it
Speaker 3: come from? Our creator who started us? This thing comes
Speaker 3: from a different source. If it came from the light source,
Speaker 3: the God source, this wouldn't be a problem. It would
Speaker 3: be able to handle your God light source touching him.
Speaker 3: But it comes from a dark source. It has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with us. It was not made by the
Speaker 3: same creator, if that makes sense. But it is infiltrating
Speaker 3: and taking over other beings made by our creator, and
Speaker 3: that's how they're able to touch us. Alien abduction. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And I know some people say, not my alien is
Speaker 3: a good guys, not my hat man. He's a good guy.
Speaker 3: You know. I'm not here to slam anybody for anything
Speaker 3: what they believe to be true. Just trying to help
Speaker 3: where I can't. All right, we're gonna get to our
Speaker 3: next break. You are listening to Dark It Comes Light
Speaker 3: with Me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Speaker 3: Coast a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back. You are
Speaker 3: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on
Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 3: Oh guys, I gotta remind you go and check out
Speaker 3: my YouTube channel YouTube dot com ord slash Heidi Hollips.
Speaker 3: And I'll be talking about some of my stories and
Speaker 3: getting in deep with some elements that I haven't touched
Speaker 3: upon yet. I gave some hints about that on George
Speaker 3: Norrie's program because Coast AM and what wasn't meaning to
Speaker 3: be cryptic or holding back or anything like that. There's
Speaker 3: just some things that I need to approach sooner than later.
Speaker 3: But I'm waiting on some information and it is beyond
Speaker 3: It is beyond typical of what I talk about when
Speaker 3: it comes to shadow people. Hat Man, it is the
Speaker 3: other shooter drop that. It's a part that I didn't
Speaker 3: know needed to be dropped. I didn't know. And I've
Speaker 3: come across absolute, hard, scientific evidence of something that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it'll take it to a whole other level. And I'm
Speaker 3: aiming to share it on my YouTube channel because still
Speaker 3: got time. I still gotta still gonna work it out.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I gotta work it out. You guys. That
Speaker 3: last email, I mean during the break, I just took
Speaker 3: a moment, you know what I mean. It's so moving, Larry,
Speaker 3: thank you. I just that human potential, guys, that human potential.
Speaker 3: We are evolving, all right, We are absolutely evolving. These
Speaker 3: dark things do not want that. They don't This is
Speaker 3: what attracts some people who are gifted. Could be artsy,
Speaker 3: you could have a lot of deja vus, you could
Speaker 3: have an inkling, you could have synesthesia. And these things
Speaker 3: find you and they try to block you and break
Speaker 3: you down, oppress you, depress you, possess you grab your soul. Okay,
Speaker 3: why is that something that I have spoken to here
Speaker 3: on this program at times. My friend Maureen Seberg, Okay,
Speaker 3: I uh. She sent me an image of a carved
Speaker 3: head and I was impressed. I said, Wow, somebody did
Speaker 3: an excellent job on creating this carving, this bust of
Speaker 3: hat man. And she just asked me, you know, what
Speaker 3: do you think of this. I'm like, that's two hat
Speaker 3: man clearer as day. It's amazing. And she was stunned
Speaker 3: because she's like, Heidi, do you know who did that?
Speaker 3: Who created it? I'm like, no, who did it? Rudolf Steiner.
Speaker 3: Rudolf Steiner, Okay, who's that? You know? The guy who
Speaker 3: started the Waldorf School's anthroposophy. He was an architect who
Speaker 3: does so much stuff, just really really holistic, eclectic stuff.
Speaker 3: And he said, this is Araman ah R I m an,
Speaker 3: I have this image of what I was shown on
Speaker 3: my website, Heidi Hollis dot com, just so you guys
Speaker 3: could get a look at it. And he said, one
Speaker 3: hundred years from now, Araman's going to come to the
Speaker 3: forefront and has something called this a sphere that he
Speaker 3: is putting people into to kind of trap them. And
Speaker 3: it comes through technology, guys, comes through technology. We are
Speaker 3: so amused with what we have in our called a
Speaker 3: cell phone or our computers or whatever it is. We
Speaker 3: are not really like exploring our imagination. We're not motivated
Speaker 3: to get up off the couch as much anymore. We
Speaker 3: are hooked. Now, what if there was some algorithm or
Speaker 3: some kind of pattern put in there to make sure
Speaker 3: certain things do not evolve in humans? Okay, that we're
Speaker 3: not having all of these I don't know abilities to
Speaker 3: spot these things out because sometimes hatman's after somebody else
Speaker 3: and a person who's able to see spots him, and
Speaker 3: he feels your eyes on him, and he'll spin around,
Speaker 3: and now he's become your problem because he's there to
Speaker 3: stomp out those who can see. Because if you can
Speaker 3: see and warn others, they don't want that, because with
Speaker 3: knowledge and awareness, you know, if you're able to defend yourself,
Speaker 3: they don't want that. They do not want that. And
Speaker 3: it was just I can't tell you how I jumped
Speaker 3: up and down saying I found you, I found you,
Speaker 3: I found you. After I learned that, Rudolph Steiner said,
Speaker 3: one hundred years from them, which is Now, by the way,
Speaker 3: it's now one hundred years and I'm sitting here talking
Speaker 3: to you about this thing I called hat Man. He
Speaker 3: called it something else, eriman. But the warning is the same.
Speaker 3: This thing is aiming to trap and possess and control
Speaker 3: and collect souls, okay, limiting mankind. We recycle, we reincarnate.
Speaker 3: They're stopping that, they're slowing the roll because with each
Speaker 3: reincarnation we learn and we get bigger, we get stronger.
Speaker 3: They don't want that. They want to control this. We
Speaker 3: are food, okay, And why would something do that sounds
Speaker 3: very devilish? Oh did I say the word devil? Who
Speaker 3: does hat Man claim to be? Oh? The devil? Mmm,
Speaker 3: that's weird. That's really weird. But you know, when it
Speaker 3: came to understanding all this stuff and so many different elements,
Speaker 3: it's like I can't fit it all here on the show.
Speaker 3: That's that's why there's books. Check out my books, The
Speaker 3: hat Man and of the Secret War Book. There's so
Speaker 3: many elements to all this and how it comes full
Speaker 3: circle back to the basics of good versus evil, collecting
Speaker 3: souls and all of that. You know, it's a crazy thing,
Speaker 3: and to think there's more there's more, and I would
Speaker 3: have never ever suspected what I have to share next
Speaker 3: in very very due time. Okay, yeah, all right, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, moving on. Okay, because we got our emails.
Speaker 3: Ooh ooh, this is a this is a big one. Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna go there where that's my place. Oh,
Speaker 3: there we go. Hi, Heidi, I heard you speak on
Speaker 3: and he gives a certain network name that does not
Speaker 3: mine in general, because this show airs wherever you listen
Speaker 3: to podcasts. Okay, and then he goes, I just heard
Speaker 3: another person's podcast where he interviewed some paranormal researchers and
Speaker 3: decided to look up an experience I had as a child. Okay, cool,
Speaker 3: some background. I am a guy from across the pond okay,
Speaker 3: and a married father. The topic I wanted to discuss
Speaker 3: was the hat man. I am not surprised, And just
Speaker 3: so you guys know, like sometimes I get these emails
Speaker 3: and it's like, if they're too specific on who you
Speaker 3: are and where you're at, I just skip those details
Speaker 3: because I don't want you to be hounded. I don't
Speaker 3: want you to feel embarrassed. I feel like, if you
Speaker 3: want to share who you are are you would do that?
Speaker 3: You know, in a different way on this show, I'll
Speaker 3: just say you know first name sometimes and just kind
Speaker 3: of skip around, all right. So continuing, I had an
Speaker 3: encounter with this entity as a four year old, So
Speaker 3: in around nineteen eighty eight. This is a four year old. Guys,
Speaker 3: a four year old, and we know what hat man is, right,
Speaker 3: the devil coming to a four year old, I can't imagine.
Speaker 3: He has no limits the things that he says and does.
Speaker 3: So okay, we're gonna take our We're gonna breathe. Who'saw,
Speaker 3: We're gonna breathe. Al right. I had one other encounter
Speaker 3: with shadow people once before that. Wow, you got a
Speaker 3: great memory. I only had the one experience with a
Speaker 3: hat Man that I have a somewhat clear, clear memory. Up.
Speaker 3: He was very tall, as you mentioned. The unusual thing
Speaker 3: about my experien is he was flanked by other hat
Speaker 3: men another four I think, oh, oh boy, oh boy,
Speaker 3: this is a rare, rare encounter. Just so you know,
Speaker 3: it's very rare that I hear people say I saw
Speaker 3: more than one hat Man. Okay, except maybe they were
Speaker 3: just shadows. Oh okay, all right, Okay, my recall of
Speaker 3: when I could remember the scene clearly, though, was when
Speaker 3: there were also hat men. The specific details are hard
Speaker 3: to remember, as I had blocked much of the experience out.
Speaker 3: A lot of people do. Who wants to remember the
Speaker 3: devil coming to them? You know? He was all black,
Speaker 3: had a cape, and wore a fedora. Now see, this
Speaker 3: is the interesting combo right there, because when he wears
Speaker 3: a fedora, he generally will wear his trench coat. Hey,
Speaker 3: he has a certain style, but he mixes it up
Speaker 3: at times. But okay, he was very tall, no discernible features.
Speaker 3: I was terrified and paralyzed. He was darker than the
Speaker 3: fairly dark room lit by the adjacent bathroom light through
Speaker 3: my half closed door. Okay, look at that, guys. My
Speaker 3: last episode on here, it's called darker than dark. Okay,
Speaker 3: people often use those same words. It was darker than dark, Like,
Speaker 3: how could it be darker than the darkness where I
Speaker 3: can see the edges of this thing?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: This is what people ask, and it's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: almost like an absence of light. He literally takes and
Speaker 3: blocks out every element of light. How can that be
Speaker 3: from the same source that we are? You know, he's
Speaker 3: not He's absolutely not okay. I think I had seen
Speaker 3: him looking through my door in the past, but my
Speaker 3: memory of this is no longer there. Oh, sound tickets there.
Speaker 3: I remember the time I saw both this entity and
Speaker 3: the Shadow People encounter. I closed my eyes shut and
Speaker 3: pulled the blanket over my head. On the occasion of
Speaker 3: seeing the Shadow People, I shut my eyes tight, imagined
Speaker 3: it must be a dream, and reopened them, only to
Speaker 3: see them still standing there. So quickly I closed them
Speaker 3: back up. I eventually opened my eyes again and they
Speaker 3: were gone. That's a nightmare. That's a nightmare. That's a
Speaker 3: horror movie. Guys. It's like, okay, I'm sure since my
Speaker 3: eyes playing tricks on me, I'm gonna look away and
Speaker 3: it's gonna be gone. Oh it's not still there. That
Speaker 3: That is horrific. That is so horrific. And you know,
Speaker 3: we're halfway through this email, so but we got to
Speaker 3: get to our next break. You guys, you are listening
Speaker 3: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the
Speaker 3: iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 3: Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back. You are
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Speaker 3: Don't forget to check out heidihalis dot com and tell
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Speaker 3: social media have the same. Okay, you guys, I'm continuing
Speaker 3: this email. This is really really something. We have quite
Speaker 3: the story, so it continues. I came across a paranormal
Speaker 3: forum in my twenties where people were discussing this entity.
Speaker 3: Oh they had Man, it's been out there now. It
Speaker 3: was the first time anyone else had ever mentioned an
Speaker 3: encounter similar to mine. It blew my mind. It was
Speaker 3: far too specific. It happens a lot, believe it or not.
Speaker 3: I am almost once a week I get an email
Speaker 3: that says I thought it was the only one. So
Speaker 3: I feel you. I feel you. The only other real
Speaker 3: strange encounters I had ever had that date to date.
Speaker 3: I think they meant was an old hag when I
Speaker 3: was nineteen, and then a couple of years later something
Speaker 3: in my wardrobe that would pull the door shut to
Speaker 3: prevent you from opening it. Yikes, that is not good.
Speaker 3: That is not good. The Old Hag whispered something in
Speaker 3: my ear as I was lying paralyzed. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna stop right there, guys, because I'm noticing something here.
Speaker 3: The prior email mentioned the Hag, but they didn't mention
Speaker 3: an old Hag. They just said the Hag. So I
Speaker 3: am assuming that prior email was the younger one of those,
Speaker 3: the older Hag. I don't get many emails on the Hag.
Speaker 3: How many times on this program I randomly grab an email?
Speaker 3: And I mean, I believe these two are probably eight
Speaker 3: months apart, because I get the weirdest phenomenon with my
Speaker 3: email where it will throw emails at me that are
Speaker 3: really old. Don't ask me why. And one of these
Speaker 3: is really old and one of them isn't. And they're
Speaker 3: both talking about the Hag. What what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: I just I can't this is not just coincidental. I
Speaker 3: don't believe in that. This is for a reason. Wow,
Speaker 3: I'm just wow. Okay, all right, so the old Hag
Speaker 3: I'm reading. Continue to read. The old Hag whispered something
Speaker 3: in my ear as I was lying paralyzed, and then
Speaker 3: was gone as soon as she came. I had woken
Speaker 3: earlier with a terrible feeling of impending danger and heard
Speaker 3: creaking in the hall. What did the old hag say? Oh,
Speaker 3: my gosh, Oh next second, Oh, next second, This old
Speaker 3: hag rushes through my bedroom door as I was lying
Speaker 3: next to my girlfriend. Oh, man, guys, I got the chills.
Speaker 3: I got the chills. It's on top some my thighs.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, and it's back at my elbows. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Oh terrible, terrible who okay next to
Speaker 3: my girlfriend and comes straight up to my face to
Speaker 3: say something I cannot remember. Wow. Once she left, the
Speaker 3: room was exactly as I had seen it, even with
Speaker 3: the dog looking at me from the bed, But the
Speaker 3: atmosphere had changed completely back to normal, and I knew
Speaker 3: she was gone. The one with the wardrobe. I noticed
Speaker 3: it after a late night partying when I came home.
Speaker 3: I was able to get to a few friends from
Speaker 3: down the street the next morning, and they all confirmed
Speaker 3: the door pulling itself back shut. Come on, now, come on.
Speaker 3: For those of you who do not know wardrobe, Hello,
Speaker 3: that's a closet over here. This is somebody from across
Speaker 3: the pond. Wow. Wow, I've seen that in a horror movie.
Speaker 3: I know I have, so everybody confirmed it that this
Speaker 3: thing likes it's privacy and closes the door behind it.
Speaker 3: It's not being polite, Okay, it continues. I was so
Speaker 3: freaked out by it at the time, I had run
Speaker 3: to my friend's house down the street to avoid sleeping there.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, oh, I would have too. When you would
Speaker 3: approach the door, a strange feeling came over you, like
Speaker 3: you were frozen almost, but could still move if you
Speaker 3: wanted to. There were strange occurrences in that room, strange dreams,
Speaker 3: drops in temperature, radios turning on, and maybe had even
Speaker 3: experienced the wardrobe thing prior, but had chalked it up
Speaker 3: to something not paranormal at six am while getting ready
Speaker 3: for work, thinking maybe the car was just catching or something.
Speaker 3: Who but the hat man is the most unusual because
Speaker 3: other people have experienced the same thing. If it hadn't
Speaker 3: happened to me, I think they were crackpots or simply
Speaker 3: seeking attention. What is it? Do you have any insight
Speaker 3: or theory throughout all of your investigations and testimonies. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: the encounter shape my life. Oh I hate to hear that,
Speaker 3: I really do. It would be great to have some
Speaker 3: answers cheers. Okay, so I gotta tell you. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you. So this person obviously has not been listening
Speaker 3: a lot on this show because I give a lot
Speaker 3: of answers about this. So what is it? Old Hag?
Speaker 3: She is a minion, meaning a worker for hat Man.
Speaker 3: Who's hat Man? Who is he claimed to be? He
Speaker 3: says he's the devil? Now he says he's hat Man.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't know what to think
Speaker 3: about that. But yeah, she is aiming to break you down,
Speaker 3: get at you a certain way, and I often think
Speaker 3: because she does. I mean there's a younger one who
Speaker 3: likes to tempt men. Okay, the old Hag is just
Speaker 3: so gross. I think most people get grossed out by
Speaker 3: her and want to go eat and wash their hands, like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it touched me. She's usually kind of tiny.
Speaker 3: You didn't didn't explain how she looks, But when you
Speaker 3: say old Hag, it's like she'd be as little as
Speaker 3: like two and a half feet, Like she's a squashed
Speaker 3: down little thing and wretched face, horrid teeth, discussing skin.
Speaker 3: While the young Hag is, you know, is a tempting
Speaker 3: kind of figure but kind of looks vampiresh or something.
Speaker 3: So what does she want? Well, she's pleasing her master.
Speaker 3: She is really after people to try to help break
Speaker 3: down a person, gross people out whatever? Do the HEBGB dance?
Speaker 3: Yeah that's yeah. I don't know. There's a grim Reaper
Speaker 3: type of shadow looking thing. It does similar things. I mean,
Speaker 3: think about it. It's like that is the symbol of death, right,
Speaker 3: It's like the Grim Reaper's coming. So yeah, that freaks
Speaker 3: people out to see something like that. And he's huge.
Speaker 3: He's huge, so he's breaking people down in a different way.
Speaker 3: I will say this when it comes to things that
Speaker 3: could gross people out. I had a very very very
Speaker 3: very very vivid experience. And I get these a lot
Speaker 3: where I have a dream that is so in depth
Speaker 3: it gets chalked up in my memory and as a
Speaker 3: life experience. And I call these waking dreams, and I
Speaker 3: know that they are like training scenarios. Okay, and I'll
Speaker 3: go through it. Sounds weird, right, I said, training scenarios. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's uh yeah, I mean it's a whole big story
Speaker 3: how that came to understand that. But I had this
Speaker 3: dream where I'm just like you know, whipping demons up, baddies,
Speaker 3: looking horrible whatever. Boom boom boom. And then I got
Speaker 3: this one and I took it by the throat and
Speaker 3: I'm holding it. I'm like, ha, you're done for two
Speaker 3: and almost as if this thing was reading what grosses
Speaker 3: me out? Okay, and it's face change and again I
Speaker 3: got it like I'm kind of holding by the throat
Speaker 3: and kind of the face at the same time, and
Speaker 3: it changed. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, you know, that's nasty.
Speaker 3: And then it got gooeyer and gooier and gooier, and
Speaker 3: my hands are sinking into the lesh of this thing
Speaker 3: and it's just distorting into something straight out of a nightmare.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, I'm done. All right, that's nasty.
Speaker 3: It's getting under my nails, you and I'm out. You know,
Speaker 3: I quit because it found what my weakness was. I
Speaker 3: just couldn't stand to look at this nasty thing anymore.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: I sometimes wonder when it comes to this old hag,
Speaker 3: if that is one of the elements that why she
Speaker 3: comes versus like the grim reaper one or the younger
Speaker 3: looking hag. You know, I'm sure that there's a lot
Speaker 3: more in depth research out there on it. But I'm
Speaker 3: just giving you my perspective on it. So why does
Speaker 3: she come? That could be a reason, It could be
Speaker 3: a reason. It's something disgusting and that you would never
Speaker 3: ever ever want to have around you, and feelings mutual
Speaker 3: right when it comes to hat Man, Well, he's the
Speaker 3: devil and he wants your soul. A shadow people minions,
Speaker 3: uh huh, they're able to get around pretty easily. So
Speaker 3: you have a lot of listening to do for this program,
Speaker 3: because it's really hard for me to fit it all
Speaker 3: in and just answering right here. But I'm telling you
Speaker 3: most of these episodes I am covering from A to
Speaker 3: Z on those in particular, because it is running rampant
Speaker 3: out there, and it's just as I was told and
Speaker 3: warned by beings and memories as well that things would
Speaker 3: get this bad. And you haven't seen nothing yet, guys,
Speaker 3: because I have a lot more to tell about all
Speaker 3: of this very soon. Just got to go to my
Speaker 3: YouTube channel YouTube dot com forward slash Heidi Hollis, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, and check out the series on there called
Speaker 3: This Truth. Well, we have come to the bottom of
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Speaker 3: your stories? What have you heard one of the rumors?
Speaker 3: What do you think about what's going on with all
Speaker 3: these sudden changes of heart in the government when it
Speaker 3: comes to the UFOs. Huh how about that? You think
Speaker 3: they're just being nice? Or are they in a pinch?
Speaker 3: Are they in a pinch? And they might need our
Speaker 3: help and our understanding because these things can't be hidden
Speaker 3: for much longer. Ooh, now there's a thought. All right,
Speaker 3: you guys, this has been a fabulous We come to
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