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Speaker 1: Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to Darky Comes Late with Me Heidi

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Speaker 3: Hollis on the iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM. Here

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Speaker 3: are normal podcast network. Welcome to my show. Remember each

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Speaker 3: week this is where you go to when you want

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Speaker 3: to learn the latest on what is going on in

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Speaker 3: your neighbor's home. When it comes to anything of the ordinary,

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Speaker 3: from shadow people to hat Man hello Bigfoot, to ghosts, cryptids,

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Speaker 3: I mean anything and everything the far between. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to get those emails from you, the listener, and I

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Speaker 3: always welcome you to send your stories into me. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying I'm a guru, I'm not a know it all.

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Speaker 3: I'm just someone who has been there, seeing that, experienced it,

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Speaker 3: freaked out, found some answers, wrote about it, got over it,

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Speaker 3: and now I'm trying to help others do the same

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Speaker 3: darn thing and figure out this world. To go to

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Speaker 3: Heidihollis dot com or shadow folks dot com and tell

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Speaker 3: me every bit of detail that you'd like. I don't

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Speaker 3: care what it is. Sometimes it paints a picture, and

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Speaker 3: we love painted pictures here, don't we. We do we do?

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Speaker 3: And if there is a picture you want to send,

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Speaker 3: guess what. You can send it over through my personal email,

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Speaker 3: which is Heidihollis at gmail dot com. And I mean,

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Speaker 3: it is just amazing the areas that we get to

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Speaker 3: cover on this show. And I never ever get to

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Speaker 3: know exactly what's going on in these emails. I really

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Speaker 3: because I do get those. I'm not a psychic. I

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Speaker 3: am not a psychic. Yeah, I've seen a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm optimistic that way. So AnyWho, I

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Speaker 3: want to remind you also, please go to any social

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Speaker 3: you will find me. So send me a message there.

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Speaker 3: I do respond as much as I possibly can. And

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Speaker 3: also I am a paranormal cartoonist. Uh huh The Outlanders

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Speaker 3: Comic Go to the Outlanderscomic dot com or follow me

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Speaker 3: on Instagram at the Outlander's Comic. Uh huh. You know,

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, guys, I have been getting so

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomeslight with Me

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Speaker 3: a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Well, I have to remind you, guys,

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Speaker 3: I have this image of what I was shown on

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Speaker 3: my website, Heidi Hollis dot com, just so you guys

422
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: could get a look at it. And he said, one

423
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Speaker 3: hundred years from now, Araman's going to come to the

424
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: forefront and has something called this a sphere that he

425
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: is putting people into to kind of trap them. And

426
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: it comes through technology, guys, comes through technology. We are

427
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: so amused with what we have in our called a

428
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: cell phone or our computers or whatever it is. We

429
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: are not really like exploring our imagination. We're not motivated

430
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: to get up off the couch as much anymore. We

431
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: are hooked. Now, what if there was some algorithm or

432
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: some kind of pattern put in there to make sure

433
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: certain things do not evolve in humans? Okay, that we're

434
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: not having all of these I don't know abilities to

435
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: spot these things out because sometimes hatman's after somebody else

436
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: and a person who's able to see spots him, and

437
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: he feels your eyes on him, and he'll spin around,

438
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: and now he's become your problem because he's there to

439
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: stomp out those who can see. Because if you can

440
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: see and warn others, they don't want that, because with

441
00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: knowledge and awareness, you know, if you're able to defend yourself,

442
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: they don't want that. They do not want that. And

443
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: it was just I can't tell you how I jumped

444
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: up and down saying I found you, I found you,

445
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: I found you. After I learned that, Rudolph Steiner said,

446
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: one hundred years from them, which is Now, by the way,

447
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: it's now one hundred years and I'm sitting here talking

448
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: to you about this thing I called hat Man. He

449
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: called it something else, eriman. But the warning is the same.

450
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: This thing is aiming to trap and possess and control

451
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: and collect souls, okay, limiting mankind. We recycle, we reincarnate.

452
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: They're stopping that, they're slowing the roll because with each

453
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: reincarnation we learn and we get bigger, we get stronger.

454
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: They don't want that. They want to control this. We

455
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: are food, okay, And why would something do that sounds

456
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: very devilish? Oh did I say the word devil? Who

457
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: does hat Man claim to be? Oh? The devil? Mmm,

458
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: that's weird. That's really weird. But you know, when it

459
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: came to understanding all this stuff and so many different elements,

460
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: it's like I can't fit it all here on the show.

461
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: That's that's why there's books. Check out my books, The

462
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: hat Man and of the Secret War Book. There's so

463
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: many elements to all this and how it comes full

464
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: circle back to the basics of good versus evil, collecting

465
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: souls and all of that. You know, it's a crazy thing,

466
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: and to think there's more there's more, and I would

467
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: have never ever suspected what I have to share next

468
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 3: in very very due time. Okay, yeah, all right, okay,

469
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: all right, moving on. Okay, because we got our emails.

470
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: Ooh ooh, this is a this is a big one. Okay,

471
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna go there where that's my place. Oh,

472
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: there we go. Hi, Heidi, I heard you speak on

473
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: and he gives a certain network name that does not

474
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: mine in general, because this show airs wherever you listen

475
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: to podcasts. Okay, and then he goes, I just heard

476
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: another person's podcast where he interviewed some paranormal researchers and

477
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: decided to look up an experience I had as a child. Okay, cool,

478
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 3: some background. I am a guy from across the pond okay,

479
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: and a married father. The topic I wanted to discuss

480
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: was the hat man. I am not surprised, And just

481
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: so you guys know, like sometimes I get these emails

482
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: and it's like, if they're too specific on who you

483
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: are and where you're at, I just skip those details

484
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: because I don't want you to be hounded. I don't

485
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: want you to feel embarrassed. I feel like, if you

486
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: want to share who you are are you would do that?

487
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: You know, in a different way on this show, I'll

488
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: just say you know first name sometimes and just kind

489
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: of skip around, all right. So continuing, I had an

490
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: encounter with this entity as a four year old, So

491
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: in around nineteen eighty eight. This is a four year old. Guys,

492
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: a four year old, and we know what hat man is, right,

493
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: the devil coming to a four year old, I can't imagine.

494
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: He has no limits the things that he says and does.

495
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: So okay, we're gonna take our We're gonna breathe. Who'saw,

496
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna breathe. Al right. I had one other encounter

497
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: with shadow people once before that. Wow, you got a

498
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: great memory. I only had the one experience with a

499
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: hat Man that I have a somewhat clear, clear memory. Up.

500
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: He was very tall, as you mentioned. The unusual thing

501
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: about my experien is he was flanked by other hat

502
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: men another four I think, oh, oh boy, oh boy,

503
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: this is a rare, rare encounter. Just so you know,

504
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: it's very rare that I hear people say I saw

505
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: more than one hat Man. Okay, except maybe they were

506
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: just shadows. Oh okay, all right, Okay, my recall of

507
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: when I could remember the scene clearly, though, was when

508
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: there were also hat men. The specific details are hard

509
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: to remember, as I had blocked much of the experience out.

510
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: A lot of people do. Who wants to remember the

511
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: devil coming to them? You know? He was all black,

512
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: had a cape, and wore a fedora. Now see, this

513
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 3: is the interesting combo right there, because when he wears

514
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: a fedora, he generally will wear his trench coat. Hey,

515
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: he has a certain style, but he mixes it up

516
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: at times. But okay, he was very tall, no discernible features.

517
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: I was terrified and paralyzed. He was darker than the

518
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: fairly dark room lit by the adjacent bathroom light through

519
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: my half closed door. Okay, look at that, guys. My

520
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: last episode on here, it's called darker than dark. Okay,

521
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: people often use those same words. It was darker than dark, Like,

522
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: how could it be darker than the darkness where I

523
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: can see the edges of this thing?

524
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: You know?

525
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: This is what people ask, and it's like, yeah, it's

526
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: almost like an absence of light. He literally takes and

527
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: blocks out every element of light. How can that be

528
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 3: from the same source that we are? You know, he's

529
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: not He's absolutely not okay. I think I had seen

530
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: him looking through my door in the past, but my

531
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: memory of this is no longer there. Oh, sound tickets there.

532
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: I remember the time I saw both this entity and

533
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: the Shadow People encounter. I closed my eyes shut and

534
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: pulled the blanket over my head. On the occasion of

535
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: seeing the Shadow People, I shut my eyes tight, imagined

536
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: it must be a dream, and reopened them, only to

537
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: see them still standing there. So quickly I closed them

538
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: back up. I eventually opened my eyes again and they

539
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: were gone. That's a nightmare. That's a nightmare. That's a

540
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: horror movie. Guys. It's like, okay, I'm sure since my

541
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: eyes playing tricks on me, I'm gonna look away and

542
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: it's gonna be gone. Oh it's not still there. That

543
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: That is horrific. That is so horrific. And you know,

544
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: we're halfway through this email, so but we got to

545
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: get to our next break. You guys, you are listening

546
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the

547
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

548
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back. You are

549
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: listening to Dark Becomes Like with me Heidi Hollis an

550
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network.

551
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: Don't forget to check out heidihalis dot com and tell

552
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: me your stories and what's going on out there, and

553
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: follow me on Instagram at one Heidi Hollis and most

554
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: social media have the same. Okay, you guys, I'm continuing

555
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 3: this email. This is really really something. We have quite

556
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: the story, so it continues. I came across a paranormal

557
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: forum in my twenties where people were discussing this entity.

558
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: Oh they had Man, it's been out there now. It

559
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: was the first time anyone else had ever mentioned an

560
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: encounter similar to mine. It blew my mind. It was

561
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: far too specific. It happens a lot, believe it or not.

562
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: I am almost once a week I get an email

563
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: that says I thought it was the only one. So

564
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: I feel you. I feel you. The only other real

565
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: strange encounters I had ever had that date to date.

566
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: I think they meant was an old hag when I

567
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: was nineteen, and then a couple of years later something

568
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: in my wardrobe that would pull the door shut to

569
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: prevent you from opening it. Yikes, that is not good.

570
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: That is not good. The Old Hag whispered something in

571
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: my ear as I was lying paralyzed. You know, I'm

572
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: gonna stop right there, guys, because I'm noticing something here.

573
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: The prior email mentioned the Hag, but they didn't mention

574
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: an old Hag. They just said the Hag. So I

575
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: am assuming that prior email was the younger one of those,

576
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: the older Hag. I don't get many emails on the Hag.

577
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 3: How many times on this program I randomly grab an email?

578
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: And I mean, I believe these two are probably eight

579
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: months apart, because I get the weirdest phenomenon with my

580
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: email where it will throw emails at me that are

581
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: really old. Don't ask me why. And one of these

582
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: is really old and one of them isn't. And they're

583
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: both talking about the Hag. What what?

584
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: What?

585
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: I just I can't this is not just coincidental. I

586
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: don't believe in that. This is for a reason. Wow,

587
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: I'm just wow. Okay, all right, so the old Hag

588
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm reading. Continue to read. The old Hag whispered something

589
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: in my ear as I was lying paralyzed, and then

590
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: was gone as soon as she came. I had woken

591
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: earlier with a terrible feeling of impending danger and heard

592
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 3: creaking in the hall. What did the old hag say? Oh,

593
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: my gosh, Oh next second, Oh, next second, This old

594
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: hag rushes through my bedroom door as I was lying

595
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: next to my girlfriend. Oh, man, guys, I got the chills.

596
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: I got the chills. It's on top some my thighs.

597
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: I don't know why, and it's back at my elbows. Yeah,

598
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Oh terrible, terrible who okay next to

599
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: my girlfriend and comes straight up to my face to

600
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: say something I cannot remember. Wow. Once she left, the

601
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: room was exactly as I had seen it, even with

602
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: the dog looking at me from the bed, But the

603
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: atmosphere had changed completely back to normal, and I knew

604
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: she was gone. The one with the wardrobe. I noticed

605
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: it after a late night partying when I came home.

606
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: I was able to get to a few friends from

607
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: down the street the next morning, and they all confirmed

608
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: the door pulling itself back shut. Come on, now, come on.

609
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: For those of you who do not know wardrobe, Hello,

610
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: that's a closet over here. This is somebody from across

611
00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: the pond. Wow. Wow, I've seen that in a horror movie.

612
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: I know I have, so everybody confirmed it that this

613
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: thing likes it's privacy and closes the door behind it.

614
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: It's not being polite, Okay, it continues. I was so

615
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 3: freaked out by it at the time, I had run

616
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 3: to my friend's house down the street to avoid sleeping there.

617
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: Oh oh, oh, I would have too. When you would

618
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: approach the door, a strange feeling came over you, like

619
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: you were frozen almost, but could still move if you

620
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: wanted to. There were strange occurrences in that room, strange dreams,

621
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: drops in temperature, radios turning on, and maybe had even

622
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: experienced the wardrobe thing prior, but had chalked it up

623
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: to something not paranormal at six am while getting ready

624
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: for work, thinking maybe the car was just catching or something.

625
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 3: Who but the hat man is the most unusual because

626
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: other people have experienced the same thing. If it hadn't

627
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: happened to me, I think they were crackpots or simply

628
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: seeking attention. What is it? Do you have any insight

629
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: or theory throughout all of your investigations and testimonies. Oh yeah,

630
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: the encounter shape my life. Oh I hate to hear that,

631
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: I really do. It would be great to have some

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Speaker 3: answers cheers. Okay, so I gotta tell you. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: tell you. So this person obviously has not been listening

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Speaker 3: a lot on this show because I give a lot

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Speaker 3: of answers about this. So what is it? Old Hag?

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Speaker 3: She is a minion, meaning a worker for hat Man.

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Speaker 3: Who's hat Man? Who is he claimed to be? He

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00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: says he's the devil? Now he says he's hat Man.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't know what to think

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Speaker 3: about that. But yeah, she is aiming to break you down,

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Speaker 3: get at you a certain way, and I often think

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00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: because she does. I mean there's a younger one who

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Speaker 3: likes to tempt men. Okay, the old Hag is just

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00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: so gross. I think most people get grossed out by

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Speaker 3: her and want to go eat and wash their hands, like,

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it touched me. She's usually kind of tiny.

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Speaker 3: You didn't didn't explain how she looks, But when you

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00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: say old Hag, it's like she'd be as little as

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Speaker 3: like two and a half feet, Like she's a squashed

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Speaker 3: down little thing and wretched face, horrid teeth, discussing skin.

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Speaker 3: While the young Hag is, you know, is a tempting

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Speaker 3: kind of figure but kind of looks vampiresh or something.

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Speaker 3: So what does she want? Well, she's pleasing her master.

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Speaker 3: She is really after people to try to help break

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Speaker 3: down a person, gross people out whatever? Do the HEBGB dance?

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's yeah. I don't know. There's a grim Reaper

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Speaker 3: type of shadow looking thing. It does similar things. I mean,

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00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: think about it. It's like that is the symbol of death, right,

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Speaker 3: It's like the Grim Reaper's coming. So yeah, that freaks

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00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: people out to see something like that. And he's huge.

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00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 3: He's huge, so he's breaking people down in a different way.

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Speaker 3: I will say this when it comes to things that

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Speaker 3: could gross people out. I had a very very very

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Speaker 3: very very vivid experience. And I get these a lot

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Speaker 3: where I have a dream that is so in depth

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Speaker 3: it gets chalked up in my memory and as a

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Speaker 3: life experience. And I call these waking dreams, and I

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00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: know that they are like training scenarios. Okay, and I'll

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Speaker 3: go through it. Sounds weird, right, I said, training scenarios. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's uh yeah, I mean it's a whole big story

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Speaker 3: how that came to understand that. But I had this

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00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: dream where I'm just like you know, whipping demons up, baddies,

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00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: looking horrible whatever. Boom boom boom. And then I got

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Speaker 3: this one and I took it by the throat and

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00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm holding it. I'm like, ha, you're done for two

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Speaker 3: and almost as if this thing was reading what grosses

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Speaker 3: me out? Okay, and it's face change and again I

678
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 3: got it like I'm kind of holding by the throat

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Speaker 3: and kind of the face at the same time, and

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00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: it changed. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, you know, that's nasty.

681
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Speaker 3: And then it got gooeyer and gooier and gooier, and

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Speaker 3: my hands are sinking into the lesh of this thing

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Speaker 3: and it's just distorting into something straight out of a nightmare.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, I'm done. All right, that's nasty.

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Speaker 3: It's getting under my nails, you and I'm out. You know,

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00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: I quit because it found what my weakness was. I

687
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: just couldn't stand to look at this nasty thing anymore.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: I sometimes wonder when it comes to this old hag,

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Speaker 3: if that is one of the elements that why she

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00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: comes versus like the grim reaper one or the younger

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Speaker 3: looking hag. You know, I'm sure that there's a lot

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Speaker 3: more in depth research out there on it. But I'm

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Speaker 3: just giving you my perspective on it. So why does

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00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: she come? That could be a reason, It could be

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00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: a reason. It's something disgusting and that you would never

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Speaker 3: ever ever want to have around you, and feelings mutual

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00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: right when it comes to hat Man, Well, he's the

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00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: devil and he wants your soul. A shadow people minions,

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Speaker 3: uh huh, they're able to get around pretty easily. So

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Speaker 3: you have a lot of listening to do for this program,

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Speaker 3: because it's really hard for me to fit it all

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Speaker 3: in and just answering right here. But I'm telling you

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Speaker 3: most of these episodes I am covering from A to

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Speaker 3: Z on those in particular, because it is running rampant

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Speaker 3: out there, and it's just as I was told and

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Speaker 3: warned by beings and memories as well that things would

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Speaker 3: get this bad. And you haven't seen nothing yet, guys,

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Speaker 3: because I have a lot more to tell about all

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Speaker 3: of this very soon. Just got to go to my

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Speaker 3: YouTube channel YouTube dot com forward slash Heidi Hollis, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, and check out the series on there called

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Speaker 3: This Truth. Well, we have come to the bottom of

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Speaker 3: another program. I got to remind you, guys, go to

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Speaker 3: heidihouse dot com and tell me your stories. Also check

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Speaker 3: out instagram my paranormal comic strip at the Outlanders Comic

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Speaker 3: on Instagram and follow me all over at one put

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Speaker 3: a one in front of Heidi Hollis and hey, reach

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Speaker 3: on out. Tell me what's going on? What do you

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Speaker 3: want me to talk about on the show? What are

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Speaker 3: your stories? What have you heard one of the rumors?

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Speaker 3: What do you think about what's going on with all

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Speaker 3: these sudden changes of heart in the government when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the UFOs. Huh how about that? You think

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Speaker 3: they're just being nice? Or are they in a pinch?

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Speaker 3: Are they in a pinch? And they might need our

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Speaker 3: help and our understanding because these things can't be hidden

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Speaker 3: for much longer. Ooh, now there's a thought. All right,

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Speaker 3: you guys, this has been a fabulous We come to

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Speaker 3: the bottom of another fabulous program. You have been listening

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Speaker 3: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast I AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye.

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