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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's to show that she has the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And

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Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know,

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Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry.

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Speaker 1: Decision make because it's what he likes to do. It's

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Speaker 1: what he likes to share.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald

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Speaker 2: money making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. There's whether another day, another dollar, that's

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Speaker 1: what they say. Welcome to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Rashawn McDonald. Our theme is there's

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Speaker 1: no perfect time to start following your dreams. I say

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Speaker 1: that every week.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think that if you keep saying something, then people

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Speaker 1: will eventually hear it. You know, it's like going by

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Speaker 1: his store. If a grocery store decided it will not

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Speaker 1: have it sign on, then you will stop going in.

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Speaker 1: So they keep its sign on to remind you that

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Speaker 1: you can come in to get service. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: tell you or any day that this show airs. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you that the theme is there's no

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Speaker 1: perfect time to start following your dreams. I recognize that

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Speaker 1: we all have different definitions of success. For you and

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Speaker 1: maybe the side of your paycheck, mine is inspiring you

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Speaker 1: to accomplish your goals and live your very best life.

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Speaker 1: Do you hear me? I know I'm preaching. I preach

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Speaker 1: all the time. I preach because you know I speaking

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Speaker 1: to the Black community. We're used to that cadence, that reverence.

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Speaker 1: It's time to start reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 1: start living your own. That's preaching. But I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: go to that extreme because people always talk about you

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Speaker 1: know that purpose. You know, people always talk purpose and gifts.

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Speaker 1: You hear a lot about that and social media because

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Speaker 1: you have a gift. Everybody has a gift, not gifts.

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Speaker 1: A gift. Leave with your gift and don't let your friends.

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Speaker 1: It's very important because there's a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: have dreams that are not That doesn't line up with

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Speaker 1: your with your family, may not line up with your friends,

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Speaker 1: may not line up with your loved want, your parents,

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Speaker 1: your coworkers, and guess what, they'll shut it down because

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Speaker 1: they don't understand that direction. I remember when I left IBM.

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Speaker 1: I had a great job at IM, but I told

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Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be a stand up comedian. They tried

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Speaker 1: to shut me down. Oh you go, You're gonna be

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Speaker 1: the next Richard Pride. Huh really, Eddie Murphy? Really, because

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Speaker 1: those were the big names when I decided to leave

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Speaker 1: IBM at the time, you know, there was a dream killers.

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Speaker 1: I didn't listen to them. And my guests today are

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Speaker 1: about the American dream both of them. They're on the

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Speaker 1: show today to let you know it can happen for you.

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Speaker 1: One is a real estate developer. My first guest, listen

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Speaker 1: to me, heero, my first guest, this is a dreamer,

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Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure people have told her this was

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Speaker 1: not going to happen in a lifetime. My first guest

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Speaker 1: has purchased nearly one thousand acres in the Dominican Republic

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Speaker 1: for a golf result. Not in Georgia, not in Alabama,

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Speaker 1: not Mississippi, Dominican Republic. These are American dreamers. And I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure people out there killing your dreams and killing

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Speaker 1: their dreams left and right saying that's impossible. What Rashan

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Speaker 1: is talking about well, guess what. Let's get money making

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Speaker 1: conversation master class started and you're gonna hear the truth.

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Speaker 1: My first guest is an attorney real estate developer, Diana Lynch.

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Speaker 1: Attorney Lynch focused on her practice on family, sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and business law. She has over two decades worth of

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Speaker 1: mediation and arbitration. There was a difference. I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: her what it's the difference between mediation and arbitration cases

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Speaker 1: involving divorce, child custody, child support, property division all part

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Speaker 1: of her specialization. We know there's a half of America

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Speaker 1: gets married, turns around, gets a divorce. Possessing the right

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Speaker 1: range of legal knowledge. She has also handled personal injury

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Speaker 1: and other general civil litigation matters as a real estate developer.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss her historic purchase. I said it earlier

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Speaker 1: is what she really on the show. A primary purpose

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Speaker 1: isn't just acquiring wealth for herself. It's inspiring the black

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Speaker 1: money making conversation Mastercline, Attorney Diana Lynch, How you doing, Hi?

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Speaker 4: How are you? Thanks for having me?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: Did I get you fired up? Attorney Lynch? Don't get

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Speaker 4: You got me fired up. I tell you, I just

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Speaker 4: love it when people tell us that we could do

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Speaker 4: things differently. We can live life differently, we could do

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Speaker 4: things differently when I other than when our parents told us.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you start with where I began, you

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Speaker 4: would I wouldn't even expect that I would be here,

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Speaker 4: we'd never take no for an answer, And so that's

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Speaker 4: one of the things I said, unless it's a woman,

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Speaker 4: then even a maybe, it's a no. And you'll see

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Speaker 4: the thousands of people that I touch and the fifty

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Speaker 4: That's what they'll know when they when I meet them

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's what I I tell them.

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Speaker 1: We turned to Lynch, you know, the first time we've spoken,

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Speaker 1: and I was reading this press release because I always

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Speaker 1: want to know. When I was reading this press release,

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Speaker 1: it said primary purpose isn't just acquiring wealth for herself.

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Speaker 1: It's inspiring the black community to take on more ownership.

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Speaker 4: Thing is, as a child, I grew up in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 4: things we always aspired to do and was taught to

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Speaker 4: do this to own the land, all right, nor because

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Speaker 4: when you own the land, it comes with it quite

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Speaker 4: a bit of one responsibility, opportunity. Legacy. Land historically does

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Speaker 4: not lose value in the stock market as investment stock market.

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Speaker 4: I was told to put money in the stock market

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Speaker 4: And just as it comes back, we got Ukraine and

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Speaker 4: What can if it makes you feel helpless, And one

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Speaker 4: strategic decisions based on market forces, appreciation and land land appreciates,

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Speaker 4: where where are the others investing their money? And as

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Speaker 4: The fortunate and unfortunate thing is that you get paid

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Speaker 4: when you when you work buillable hours. However, I wanted

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Speaker 4: And I didn't understand what he meant, because you know,

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Speaker 4: sometimes it's better to be quiet and learned and to

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: So he simply said, we don't want to come to

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Speaker 4: it's because a lot of times we have not been

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Speaker 1: You know, you're absolutely telling the truth. You know you

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Speaker 1: And we look at we drive through these neighborhood especially

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Speaker 1: So if you're going to tell them that you're going

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Because then all of a sudden we have our local

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Speaker 1: You know, gentrification are when that happens? Are we victims? Are?

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Speaker 1: We're just not aware. I'm talking about the black community.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think we're missing at the opportunity right so,

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Speaker 4: and I know exactly what you mean. I have a

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Speaker 4: property downtown Atlanta was on the first I was the

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Speaker 4: but it had been underdeveloped. It's often been the place

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Speaker 4: and I said, I need to get somewhere where I

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Speaker 4: I acquired one property, and then another, and then another,

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Speaker 1: Tmauri to start our family Reunion recall spending years being

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you again for the opportunity to speak to

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Speaker 4: talk yourself out of something, right because what God has

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Speaker 4: to do is leverage the relationships that we have. We

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Speaker 4: We certainly could have built quickly and sold without permits

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Speaker 4: We didn't do that. We're doing it the right way.

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Speaker 4: Our American developers who are familiar with developing in the

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Speaker 4: But that's another conversation. But what we did is we

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Speaker 4: leverage experts who have done it before, who have had

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Speaker 4: forty fifty years of resort development. In Lakala, Fiji, our

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Speaker 4: design team has developed Red Bull Island for the owner

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Speaker 4: appropriate legal counselor. For everything we had in DR we

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Speaker 4: them to match up with each other. Make sure the

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Speaker 4: standards are that of what we expect as Americans as

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Speaker 4: far as the build and you want, you make sure

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Speaker 4: that you have you don't rush you know the people.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing that I think benefited us, these people

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Speaker 4: who have have worked with us. I've been a lawyer

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Speaker 4: in Atlanta for thirty years. I've retired, Thank goodness. I've

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Speaker 4: retired because I got tired of tearing down things, mergers, acquisitions, families,

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Speaker 4: those sorts of things. And now I'm building. And so

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Speaker 4: this is the place that i can wrap my head

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Speaker 4: and my faith around because I'm building something that that

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Speaker 1: Somebody jumped on the line or like you gotta find

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Speaker 1: up here atterny lynch okay, And I want to just

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Speaker 1: point it out, this is an all black investment group

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Speaker 6: Correct.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we're We're a bunch of developers that have actually

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Speaker 4: developed many properties like my my property, Downtown Atlanta, Signature

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Speaker 4: Atlanta that mix use communities coming out we're building here,

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Speaker 4: We're building there. We have we congratulations and la property.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Diva, you're on the line here speaking to Rashan

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Speaker 1: mcdonand Money Making Conversation master Class, as well as the

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.

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Speaker 8: How are we doing? How are we doing?

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Speaker 10: Sub bless stub bless Wow. I'mlike super super excited. Rashaan,

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Speaker 10: thank you so much. I love your show. I've been

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Speaker 10: listening to you for about two years now. I've learned

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Speaker 10: so much from you and your guests. God bless you.

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Speaker 10: I appreciate you and doctor Lynch. Oh, miss lady, and

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Speaker 10: let me tell you this is Today has been a

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Speaker 10: day that I've been getting confirmation. First of all, I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna be bake investors. I am barely news, okay, keeping

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Speaker 10: it transparent. I'm new, but I've been dabbling over twenty years, Okay,

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Speaker 10: I look forward to twenty years and right now I

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Speaker 10: have my company and my business. My LLC is called

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Speaker 10: Breakthrough and Overflow, and I want to invest in and

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Speaker 10: develop homes bush group homes for group homes to get back.

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Speaker 10: I'm a veteran. I've been homeless. Oh no, I'm all

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Speaker 10: over the place. I'm sorry. But really what I would

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Speaker 10: like to do, I really would love to know as

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Speaker 10: a new investor in doing what you're doing. I actually

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Speaker 10: just invested in my first true investment property in Panama

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Speaker 10: and wherever I go going up kindam. I have a

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Speaker 10: beachfront condo. So like how you're saying, I used my home.

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Speaker 10: I bought my home in twenty twenty one and I

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Speaker 10: was able to use my equity with you know where

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Speaker 10: everything went up, use that equity to invest and get

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Speaker 10: my Los Angeles property. So that's been a lifelong dream.

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Speaker 10: And also you know it will be and bent and everything.

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Speaker 10: But I'm all about giving back. I'm all about giving back,

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Speaker 10: and so I really love the whole philosophy of what

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Speaker 10: you're doing, the whole concept of what you're doing. And

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Speaker 10: I really truly am looking for a mentor. And I

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Speaker 10: know that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot. You got fifty thousand projects now,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, but but you get that a lot, correct,

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Speaker 1: You get that a lot of attorney.

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Speaker 4: Well, well let me say this. Let me say first,

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Speaker 4: thank you for your service. I'm a former Navy jack myself,

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Speaker 4: so I appreciate your service. I like the fact that

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Speaker 4: you understood that there was a better use for your

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Speaker 4: equity than sitting it in your home and leaving it there.

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Speaker 4: The interest rates that are associated with certainly the last

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Speaker 4: is far lower than commercial debt that you can get.

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Speaker 4: It's more accessible, but even with the increase in interest rates,

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Speaker 4: it still are far out pacing a lot of other

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Speaker 4: have to use to finance a second home or an

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Speaker 4: investment property. But one of the things I like is

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Speaker 4: you said you're new. But that's the beauty of it,

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Speaker 4: because what you're doing is you're listening to people like

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Speaker 4: money making conversations. You're investing in yourself when you're actually

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Speaker 4: learning the trade, right, So you're not just saying I'm

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Speaker 4: just gonna go out there. You got to learn the

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Speaker 4: business that you're in, be willing to educate yourself, being

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Speaker 4: willing to stop surround yours And the fact that you're

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Speaker 4: asking for a mentor tells me that you're willing to grow.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I needed at my time when I started,

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Speaker 4: and what you and all of us continue to need.

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Speaker 4: You want to surround yourself with people who use doing it,

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Speaker 4: and so you're in your mindset is excellent and that

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Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with being new. It's only wrong when

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Speaker 4: you be new and you just rest in that. Oh

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Speaker 4: I'm new, so I'm gonna no learn be around people,

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Speaker 4: figure it out. You already made the first step by

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Speaker 4: accessing some of your capital and your home.

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Speaker 1: Okay, turn Lynch, how can it get in touch with you?

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Speaker 1: What is the website? Can you give that information? Because

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Speaker 1: I'm to be honest with you, I do a lot

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Speaker 1: of these interviews and your your tone, your your your cadence,

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Speaker 1: your honesty, your history, you want of these people? Just

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Speaker 1: google her, Just google her name. You'll see the credibility

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Speaker 1: of this conversation and the legitimacy of what we're trying

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Speaker 1: to do on Money Making Conversation Masterclass. How can we

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Speaker 1: reach out to you? And what is the website for

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Speaker 1: the for the golf resort in the Dominican Republic?

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Speaker 4: You can connect with me personally at Ddiana Lynch dot com.

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Speaker 4: D D I A N A L y n c

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Speaker 4: h dot com. It does list the two projects that

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Speaker 4: I have going on in Atlanta and in the Dominican Republic.

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Speaker 4: The direct website and all social media platforms for the resort.

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Speaker 4: The golfers are in the Dominican Republic is Almadisamana dot com.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Our theme is there's no perfect time to start following

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Speaker 1: your dreams. I recognize that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: of success. For you and maybe the size of your

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Speaker 1: paycheck minds inspire you to accomplish your goals and live

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Speaker 1: your very best life. It's time to stop reading other

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Speaker 1: people's success stories and really when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: and start living your own. People always talk about their

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Speaker 1: purpose or gift. If you have a gift, leave with

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Speaker 1: your gift and don't let your friends, family, or core

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Speaker 1: worker stop you from planning or living your dreams. That's

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Speaker 1: the way life is. I always tell people, is about you,

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Speaker 1: not about what other people think of you. My guest

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Speaker 1: is legendary R and B singer Will Downey. He is

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Speaker 1: affectionately dubbed as the Prince of Sophisticated Soul. Where the

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Speaker 1: repertoire consisted of signature interpretations of R and B classic

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Speaker 1: like I Go Crazy, Wishing on the Star, stop looking, listen,

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Speaker 1: and I tried with original hits like a Million Ways

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Speaker 1: After the Night, Sorry, I Everything, I Wanted, My Lady

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Speaker 1: and the show stopping chart topping doet with Rachelle Farrell.

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Speaker 1: Nothing has ever felt like this. Here's a new release

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Speaker 1: song out Till We Meet Again. The song offers a

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Speaker 1: message of hope and understanding that resonate with anyone who

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Speaker 1: has faced mental health challenges. According to Will Downey, the

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Speaker 1: song was inspired when he lost his daughter to suicide

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Speaker 1: of January of this year. He is on the show

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Speaker 1: to discuss his career and the song Till We Meet

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Speaker 1: Again to alert you the mental health issues and suicide.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Will Downy.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, sir, bro was like, you know, when

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Speaker 5: I go out, that's the way I want it.

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Speaker 6: I want it just like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we thank you, thank you. My staff said, Rachelle,

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Speaker 1: you really wrote this on up today. I said, well,

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Speaker 1: I said, I sat down. You know when I think

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Speaker 1: about why you wanted to come on the show, and

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Speaker 1: then our relationship over the years, the interviews we've had,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I know you got to my pieces

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Speaker 1: doing this thing out there you on tour. How you

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Speaker 1: doing right now before we get into our interview.

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Speaker 6: You know what, I'm pretty good man for the most part.

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Speaker 5: You know, I have my moments based on everything that

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Speaker 5: you just said, the passing of my daughter in January.

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Speaker 5: So I can't say that everything is perfect. You know,

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Speaker 5: sometimes during the day a brother breaks down, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. I see a picture or a memory

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Speaker 5: or whatever it is, and it reminds me of you know,

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Speaker 5: of her. But you know, we keep going, and you know,

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Speaker 5: we try to spread the good word in spite of

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Speaker 5: and hopefully help other people up in definition of a song.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know that's your talent, your gift. My gift

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Speaker 1: is you know. I used to work at IBM, and

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Speaker 1: then I started making people laugh. I was a stand

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00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: up comedian, and then I became a writer on sitcoms

650
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: and that created a body of work that people can

651
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: turn on Netflix and see did you write that episode?

652
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: Did you write that about Sister and Sister Jamie Fox?

653
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: All these different shows, the Parkers, And you have a

654
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: body of work, and that body of work allows you

655
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: to see thousands of people walking in the street and

656
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: people just walk up to you. How does that affect you?

657
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: When people pick out certain songs to say how important

658
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: that music is to them.

659
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 5: Well, it's a great feeling, and you know, you feel

660
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: like you've had a sense of accomplishment. You know, that's

661
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: what every artist the goal is is to you know,

662
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 5: to make sure.

663
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 6: That the world reaches that the song.

664
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Speaker 5: Reaches the world, and that it affects the world in

665
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: some sort of a way.

666
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 6: So I hear that all the time.

667
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I was out to lunch yesterday with

668
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: my guitar player and we were sitting there this young

669
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 5: lady who was our waitress. That's what I call a lamas.

670
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 5: They have a specific term. I always say waitress. So

671
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 5: I even said it to her that way. I said, listen,

672
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: you know, what do you really want to do in life?

673
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 5: She says, well, you know, I want to be a singer.

674
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: I said, oh okay, And so the guitar playoffs with

675
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: he said, well do you know you're talking to And

676
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 5: then he said my name to her, and she, you know,

677
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 5: just like she lit up a little and I was

678
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: like a little bit too young for me, you know.

679
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 6: Honestly, like, how do you know who I am?

680
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 5: My mother loves you? And then she got a mother

681
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 5: on the telephone. Wow, yeah, Yeah, it was interesting man.

682
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 5: So all that to say, it was a great feeling

683
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 5: to know that it's still relevant that, you know, the

684
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 5: younger generation still appreciates what you do, or they appreciate

685
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 5: what you do, and the generation you came up with

686
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: they still appreciate what you do.

687
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 6: So it's a great feeling.

688
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 5: We know.

689
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about music, how important it really is.

690
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: You know, let's let's be honest. It can lift you up,

691
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: it can motivate you, it can inspire you. And then

692
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: your song that you've written based on the death of

693
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: the suicide of your daughter, is it inspirational, motivational? What

694
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: is the sense of that particular song.

695
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 5: Well, it's supposed to be all of that, but it's

696
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 5: almost when it was written, it was almost like a

697
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: conversation that I've had with her more times than I

698
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 5: can count, right, So the first couple of lines on

699
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: the song is can you tell me what the hell

700
00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 5: was on your mind?

701
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 6: Right?

702
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: I heard you say that.

703
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 5: I went, WHOA, okay, right, yeah, because when I last

704
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 5: spoke to you, yeah, you were doing fine. So I've

705
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 5: had that conversation with her and my all my children

706
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: have three of them more times than I can count.

707
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 5: You know, they do something and it's like, come on, man, really,

708
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 5: like like.

709
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 6: What were you thinking?

710
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 5: You know, last time I talked to you, you said you

711
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 5: weren't going to do this, and you told me you

712
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 5: were going to do this, whatever it might be. So

713
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 5: it's it's a conversation from a parent to a child.

714
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: But at the same time, when we've had our conversation off,

715
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: I said what I've had to say, and I kind

716
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 5: of open up my arms and go, I still love you.

717
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: Come on, come on, give me a hug. Don't do

718
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 5: that again. You know, let's think this out or let's

719
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 5: talk this over. So that's kind of what it is.

720
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: And unfortunately it's a conversation that we could no longer

721
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 5: have as two individuals, but it's still like, you know,

722
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 5: my my spiritual conversation, like what was going on with you?

723
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: All right, Okay, that moment's passed. I'm letting you know

724
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 5: it's okay. You're not alone. Someone's watching over you. I'm

725
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 5: always here. We can talk however, we can communicate, but

726
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 5: it's okay until we meet again. When we meet again,

727
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 5: we had this conversation, right, but until we meet again,

728
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 5: know that I love you. Thinking about you. God's got you,

729
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: He's holding on to you till.

730
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 6: I get to you.

731
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Speaker 1: We know the interesting part. And and thank you for that

732
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: statement of what it was all about. Cler I said,

733
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: you heard you say that. At the top, I went,

734
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: that's pretty strong. But then they got me to the

735
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: end because I think when I was listening to the

736
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: song Till We Meet Again, I'm talking to Will down

737
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: in R and B legend you know the whole approach

738
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: to how you feel. I thought that the line was

739
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: like the one line in the song that saying the

740
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: rest of the song that you like the the ultimate

741
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: frustration of why you didn't call me? Why didn't you

742
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: just back up the phone? Why all the day where

743
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: were you at mentally that you thought you could speak

744
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: to dad?

745
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 6: Right?

746
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: You spoke to Dad on so many things that was irrelevant,

747
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: so many things that was selling, so many things that

748
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: didn't matter just to you.

749
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 12: But I was there for you right right right, And

750
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 12: here's a day all you had to do was pick

751
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 12: up the telephone and we could have talked this through

752
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 12: because four or five days prior to that we.

753
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 5: Talked on the telephone, and then five was, you know,

754
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: five days prior to that, which was like New Year's Eve,

755
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 5: you know, even I left the message on the song

756
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 5: if you listen to the song, I left her voicemail

757
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 5: that she held me on the song. So eleven days

758
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 5: later she was dead. So it's like, wait a minute,

759
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: how did we get there? How do we get what happened? Like,

760
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 5: you know, talk, Why didn't you talk to me? Why

761
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 5: didn't you say something? Was it what were you going through?

762
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 5: Was it financial? Was it? Was it mental? Was it

763
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 5: someone messing with you?

764
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 6: Was it?

765
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 5: You know, like it just leads you down a rabbit

766
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 5: hole of the amount of question that you could come

767
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 5: up with as to why you did what you did

768
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: and how did you think that the ultimate solution was

769
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 5: to take your own life right?

770
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: And I just, you know, the whole thing about this interview.

771
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that we got to talk

772
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: with you know, because you know your daughter, you know,

773
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: initiated this interview because of the tragic turns she took

774
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: with her life.

775
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 5: Taking care.

776
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: But it's really a bigger problem out there, especially in

777
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: our community, because when it's such denial about because you

778
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: mentioned that your daughter at the top of the song

779
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: the video I saw it talked about bipolar depression, and

780
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: some form of schizophrenia. You know, if you could tell

781
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 1: our audience what exactly all those type of symptoms are,

782
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: if you're familiar with it. I'm not trying to put

783
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: you on the spot, but you know, I've heard bipolar.

784
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I've heard depression of

785
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: some maybe I maybe even experienced some depression and really

786
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: didn't know understand what I was going through. And then

787
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: you have schizophrenia. Can you talk about those three forms

788
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: that your daughter dealt with that eventually led to her dad.

789
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 5: Well earlier on in her life, and she was thirty

790
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 5: one when she passed away. You know, we had noticed

791
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 5: certain things, Me and my ex wife had noticed certain

792
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 5: things that she was doing that very moody, unbelievably moody,

793
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: Like it would go from from zero to one hundred,

794
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 5: you know, like okay, we we're cool. We're cool, We're cool.

795
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: You say one word and then another person would come

796
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 5: out and it's like all right, okay, Well I attribute

797
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: that to growing things. I remember, you know, growing up,

798
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 5: and my parents would say something to me and I'd

799
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 5: be the same way, like, you know, I hate you

800
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 5: know what I mean, not to their faces. Well, in

801
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: the back of my mind, you don't understand. And so

802
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: I'm you know, we attributed that to growth. And as

803
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 5: the years went on, I remember going to my parents

804
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 5: and especially my dad and just kind of saying like,

805
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 5: you know, I'm seeing some stuff that I ain't really

806
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 5: comfortable with, and you know, my father hit me with

807
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 5: you know, like, hey, when you were that age, you

808
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 5: were kind of the same way. Then the years went on,

809
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 5: I said it again to him, and he was like,

810
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 5: you know what, you need to take her down home.

811
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: Down home was North Carolina, that's where you know my

812
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 5: parents are from. Let let him run around in the

813
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 5: fields and get some polygreens in them and.

814
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 6: Need some ice staters.

815
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's a solution, but I and

816
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 5: then she got older, and then you know, he kind

817
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 5: of saw some stuff and it was like, all right, now,

818
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: what are you gonna do about this?

819
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 6: I'm like, what am I gonna do?

820
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 5: I told you, I said, I bought this up to

821
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 5: you seven eight years ago. You told me let him

822
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Speaker 5: run around in the field.

823
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Speaker 6: So and so.

824
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: She she got professional help in that regard and found

825
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 5: out that the bipolar aspect of it is more of

826
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 5: internal uh, imbalance, you know. So there was an bounced right,

827
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 5: and she was diagnosed with medicine. Was diagnosed, she was

828
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: given medicine, but she hated the way the medicine made

829
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 5: a feel and made her feel lethargic and tired and

830
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 5: made it feel like she wasn't in control of herself.

831
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 5: So she would stop taking the medicine. So then she

832
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: started kind of like self medicating. You know, she started

833
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 5: drinking a little bit, you know, I started smoking a

834
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 5: little something something to make her feel better. And that

835
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 5: wasn't the answer either. So that's the bipolar aspect of it.

836
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: The schizophrenia part, and that was a very small part

837
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 5: of it. Was kind of seeing and hearing things that

838
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily true, right, you know, kind of like oh, yeah,

839
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 5: you know this is woman. She looked at me and

840
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 5: you know, she called me in my you know, in

841
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 5: her mind, it was like, yeah, she looked at me

842
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 5: a particular way, she said at particular thing to her

843
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 5: or something like that, or she felt a particular way

844
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: about if someone was trying to help us, like you

845
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: ain't really trying to help me. I know what you're

846
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 5: up too, I know what it is. So it was

847
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 5: a lot of that as well, and you know, some

848
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: of it was aimed directly at me and her mother

849
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 5: as well.

850
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 6: So you know, we had some some instances that were just.

851
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 5: Kind of like, you know, whoa whoa, whoa wha, how

852
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 5: get here? Like, No, that's not the case at all,

853
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 5: And then you know, you'd have to like talk her

854
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 5: down or something like that. Not that it was going

855
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 5: to be a physical confrontation or anything like that, but

856
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 5: it was certainly like, you know, just like you could

857
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 5: just physically see her amped up. It's like, hey, no,

858
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 5: that that wasn't the case. What I meant was we

859
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 5: want to this is what we like to do. And

860
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 5: then it was kind of like, oh, okay, all right, okay,

861
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 5: you know, because I thought that you were and so

862
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: it was it was. It was a lot of that

863
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 5: as well. So those are the two aspects.

864
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Speaker 7: You are now tuned into the money making Conversations. Minute

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Speaker 7: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Despite being known for loud, bombastic comments and his trademark

867
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Speaker 1: propensity to debate, a much softer side of Stevin A.

868
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Speaker 1: Smith is revealed when discussing the inspiration for his success.

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Speaker 13: The final product is for the fans I'm about the work,

870
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Speaker 13: the process, the.

871
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Speaker 2: Grind, the day in and day out, meticulous, tedious work

872
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Speaker 2: that you have to put in to perfect your craft.

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Speaker 13: And the reason why that residd with me so profoundly

874
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Speaker 13: Withshaan is because that's what I attached to all my work.

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Speaker 13: Everybody right now is celebrating stephen A's World coming on

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Speaker 13: ESPN Plus, or they're talking about my sports and it

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Speaker 13: was stephen A Smith.

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Speaker 6: The NBA Show.

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Speaker 9: They would first take all I think about it is

880
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 9: going day to day and making sure that I do

881
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Speaker 9: everything that I can to deliver to the audience what

882
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Speaker 9: their expectations are of me and to exceed those expectations.

883
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear this full interview with stephen A. Smith,

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Speaker 1: visit Money Making Conversation dot com. Keep Winning Now, I

885
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Speaker 1: want to talk about it because you mentioned depression, because

886
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Speaker 1: I want to look at that because I'm in one

887
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: of those high stress worlds when I say that, because

888
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: sometimes I think music helps me. I think I watch

889
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: TV a lot. You know, I'm always keeping my mind active,

890
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Speaker 1: so I won't just stay on the subject that because

891
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, in entertainments, like you know, it is one

892
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: of the most emotionally up and down businesses you have.

893
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: You know, you can have a concert. There was a

894
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: soul lot of this concert half Field. You know, you

895
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: can have a hit song in the next five years,

896
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Speaker 1: maybe not another hit song, and then people start questioning you.

897
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about myself too. On shows, you get

898
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: on the show, you think that show going to be

899
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: on for a year. They canceled, leftter three months. That's

900
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Speaker 1: what happened when I was on our Senior Hall sitcom.

901
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: I thought, this is our senior Hall. We're gonna be

902
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: working for five years. Three months later they pulled the plug.

903
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: And so you know, so you went from this big

904
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Speaker 1: high to this major low. And that's what depression can

905
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: really trap you. And so you mentioned that. Can we

906
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that.

907
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: Well, you know, all the things that you just said

908
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 6: apply to a lot of people in entertainment, sports, and

909
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 6: life in general. You know what I mean. There's always

910
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 6: like this, this this.

911
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: Picture in your mind that you have and it may

912
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Speaker 5: not necessarily turn out to be that, and so you

913
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 5: start to look at that as being you know, somewhat

914
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: of a failure.

915
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 6: I think, you know, one of.

916
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: The best answers I heard even recently was from Giannis.

917
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 5: You know when reporter right, when a reporter asked, hey,

918
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 5: are you are you defining your career by this loss?

919
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 5: Or or or was the year or loss was it?

920
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 5: And then he kind of gave this amazing definition of

921
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 5: you know, what success is or what a failure is

922
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 5: or what a failure is not you know. So, you know,

923
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 5: I think we all go through stuff like that, just

924
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 5: like you.

925
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 6: You know, I'm an entertainer.

926
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: Every time I record something, I believe it's going to

927
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 5: be you know, top shelf. I believe I'm going to

928
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 5: be nominated for a Grammy. I believe all these things.

929
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 5: And then you know, most times it doesn't come to past.

930
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 5: And then so it kind of brings you down, and

931
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 5: you know, you question your own ability, You question whether

932
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 5: you're even relevant, you know, to to society in any way,

933
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 5: shape or form. So we all go through that, and

934
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 5: you know, and for her, she's no difference. She's thirty

935
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 5: one years old. The Internet pretty much rules everything, thank you.

936
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: So that was my next question, continue will That was

937
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: my next question that social media is really an issue now?

938
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, if you don't get excellunt of likes,

939
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 5: this gives everyone a false sense of everything like how

940
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 5: many friends you have or anything like that. So there's

941
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 5: no there's there's not as much human contact as they

942
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 5: used to be to even find out whether someone is

943
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: genuine and or not genuine. Everything is just keeping up,

944
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 5: and you're always reinventing yourself, especially these days. Every freaking

945
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: week you got to be somebody new. You got to

946
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 5: post something or stay relevant, like let people know you're

947
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 5: still alive. You're doing something that's relevant and it's interesting

948
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: and this, that and the other. So you know she

949
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 5: was caught up in that as well.

950
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you so she did artwork, right, she had

951
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: that was a skill set, right, So I'm sure posting

952
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with people reacting with likes

953
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: and things like that tell us about her her skill,

954
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: her talent.

955
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 6: Well, she was a phenomenon. She was phenomenal everything she touched.

956
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 5: She was also an esthetician, so you know, but but

957
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 5: when things didn't really like rise to you know that

958
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 5: certain levels, like well I got to do something new,

959
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 5: all right, so I'm doing art now. You know, she's

960
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 5: always done art, and so she would do that. And

961
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 5: you know, art is subjective. You know, what one person's

962
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 5: trash is another person's treasure. So you know, I always

963
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: kind of encouraged her in that regard. It's like I'm

964
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 5: not bringing enough money. It's like, you know, life is

965
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 5: a balance, you know, do something enjoyable, enjoy yourself at

966
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 5: the same time while making some money.

967
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 6: You're gonna be okay. But I got to keep up.

968
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 6: I got to keep up.

969
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 5: I got to keep up. So you know that that

970
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Speaker 5: played a huge role in it. But you know, a

971
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 5: really great artist.

972
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 6: Uh.

973
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 5: The artwork that we used on the cover of the

974
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Speaker 5: single is something that she had painted. Uh, she had

975
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Speaker 5: and it's a it's a fairly large piece as well.

976
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 5: So I have it hanging in my home and I've

977
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Speaker 5: distributed some of her other artwork to family members, so

978
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 5: they think that they can have her in their household

979
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 5: and thinking for all the time.

980
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Right, you know, Till with Me Again is the song

981
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: that he's talking about that unfortunately is tied to the

982
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: suicide of his daughter. How can we gain access to

983
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: this song? It has, it is released, It is available.

984
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: Where can we go?

985
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 5: If you want to see the video and hear the song,

986
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 5: you can always come to my website. You go to

987
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 5: will Downing dot com. Uh, if you want to support

988
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: it and you know, purchase like the music or something

989
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 5: like that. You can come to the Prince of Sophisticated

990
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 5: Soul dot com and the video is there as well.

991
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: You can go on YouTube, you can go to iTunes,

992
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 5: all the places that you normally get your music, so

993
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: you can support in that regard.

994
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: So so you was able to get the u r

995
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Speaker 1: L for the Prince Sophisticated.

996
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody else wanted it.

997
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot of typeing man, I mean sophisticated Prince.

998
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: I got the Prince Sophisticated. They're gonna have a problem

999
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: right there.

1000
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 5: Sophisticated what f you know? S O F I s

1001
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 5: T fist No, no, no, not no, you know, you know,

1002
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 5: as it.

1003
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: Was something I want to move back in your conversation

1004
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: because as the black community, I want to stay on

1005
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: that a little bit, because that's the reason we're here,

1006
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: because of the fact it's about education and motivating because

1007
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: as you said, our parents and our grandparents, how they

1008
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: handled these signs, these warning signs of things like that,

1009
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: it's really really my computers on mute, huh, mute, my computer,

1010
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: what's going on? Oh that, don't worry about that.

1011
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 6: Cool.

1012
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: They were worried about my computer was dinging. At the

1013
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: same I thought, I was, hey, we did this whole

1014
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: interview mute problem. I'll be taking to people at this room.

1015
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna do some old school flogging around there. No,

1016
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: they were just talking about my computer was dinging in

1017
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: the back. Only you and they heard you and I

1018
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: we did in not conversation. But but I wanted to

1019
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: talk about as we talk about our parents, because I

1020
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: come from field Ford, Texas, six sisters, two brothers, and

1021
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: I remember my parents and you know we're born. I

1022
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: was born in Houston, Texas, from Freeport Louis Apple. So

1023
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: we go back into the country, outhouses and all that stuff.

1024
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: And as I said, you know, we didn't even want

1025
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: to acknowledge the gay community in the black community, okay,

1026
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: because we didn't know what that was. Uncle was like

1027
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: this and like that, Uncle dressed that way. But we

1028
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: just just hushed it right up. And then you come

1029
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: back to this major turn of events, the mental structure

1030
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: of the black community, because we're always getting beat up.

1031
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people need to understand about the black

1032
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: community racism. So we can ever show weakness. We always

1033
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: the last higher, the first fire. So a lot of

1034
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: those things will come into play. When we're willing to

1035
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: say show vulnerability and to say that you are mentally

1036
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: quote unquote unstable, That gets you out the door real fast.

1037
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: Do you think that plays a role as well?

1038
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 6: Well, definitely.

1039
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 5: I mean, as you just said, it's something that we

1040
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 5: as a community do not talk about openly. You know,

1041
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 5: there's a sense of shame attached to it. And you

1042
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 5: pretty much hit like the top too.

1043
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 6: You know.

1044
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 5: The sexuality is one thing, and you know, mental illness

1045
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: is sort of like we have this picture in our

1046
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 5: mind that you know, people think that you're crazy because

1047
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 5: you talk to someone about what's going on with you

1048
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 5: internally in your mind or how you feel a particular way,

1049
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: especially these days when we're in a very uncaring society.

1050
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 5: You know, we hold everything in and then when you

1051
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 5: do burst, it's like, you know, how do we get this?

1052
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 5: It's like, well, this person never had the pleasure of

1053
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 5: talking with someone and releasing it and getting a different

1054
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 5: perspective on what's going on in your life. You're not

1055
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: being judged. This person is there for you to listen

1056
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 5: to or to listen to you and to maybe kind

1057
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 5: of give you like a different perspective as to how

1058
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 5: they see it. So, you know, a lot of times

1059
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: we sort of look at that. We have this vision

1060
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 5: in our mind of a couch and you know, you're

1061
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 5: sitting there and someone's in this white jacket then writing

1062
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 5: down all of this stuff, you know, and they and

1063
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 5: your build and give you a couple of bills and

1064
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 5: pick out the door. They say, you know, we ain't

1065
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: gonna talk about this, right, you'ren't tell nobody I was here.

1066
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 6: So you know, that's the picture that I have in

1067
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 6: my mind.

1068
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 5: And to those who I've spoken to about this sort

1069
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 5: of thing, that's the vision that.

1070
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 6: They have as well.

1071
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 5: And you know, we're very apprehensive about talking about it.

1072
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 5: So you know, we have to do better as a society.

1073
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: We definitely have to well, you know, black people prostate

1074
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: cancer don't want to do that, you know what I'm saying,

1075
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: and tell us what that's what we need to do.

1076
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: You know, mental health, mental care don't want to do that. Well,

1077
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: don't acknowledge our sexuality within our community because you know,

1078
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not pointing no finger, but guess what. We

1079
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: live in a racist country, ladies and gentlemen, A country

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Speaker 1: that enslaved us don't want to acknowledge the fact that

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Speaker 1: they did in slavers. In fact, they want to take

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Speaker 1: that out of books. They want to take all that

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00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: out of the book. They just want to go, we freed, y'all,

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Speaker 1: and just skip everything else.

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Speaker 5: Well, either that or the fact that it happened so

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 5: long ago. Were still talking about this that so long agoing,

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Speaker 5: Like what.

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00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we don't talk about it, and then it

1089
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: would happen again. Like you said, it's hard to repeat history.

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00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: When you can see it happening again, right, then you

1091
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 1: can stop it. Okay, But if you don't know your history,

1092
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: you know what a sudden you can be stunned and

1093
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: say I didn't see they coming. And so when I

1094
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: think about your career and I think about the longevity,

1095
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: as we wrapped up this interview, well and thank you

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00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: again for coming on my show. You know it's really true.

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: I remember I started doing stand up I left my

1098
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: job at eighty six to do stand up comedy, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't see the future. You know, you're

1100
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: just out there performing. You know, the ninety two I

1101
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: did death comedy Jam and I started writing those sitcoms.

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Speaker 1: And it's that longevity conversation I'm happening with you. It's

1103
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: like it's like you look at your success and that's

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00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: where the worry, fear comes in, fear of can I

1105
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: keep it going? Fear? As we wrapped this interview up

1106
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: and talk about your success, how you've overcome fear, how

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00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: you overcome doubt. Because when we're young, there's no fear.

1108
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: We're just out there. But as you have success, sometimes

1109
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: success can work against you, right because can I do

1110
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: it again? Will I be able to do it again?

1111
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: Will I be able to sell out this show? Will

1112
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: people know who I am next year or five years

1113
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: from that? Mentally as an artist, can you talk to

1114
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: my autists, talk to my fans about that?

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00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 5: Well? I always say when I hear stuff like that,

1116
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 5: you know, chasing success is has killed the best of

1117
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 5: who we've had musically. You know, So when you look

1118
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 5: at Michael Jackson's, when you look at Prince, when you

1119
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 5: look at your Whitney Houston's people like that, you know

1120
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 5: they all passed away chasing success. In my opinion, you know,

1121
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 5: Michael bleached, the skin changed, physically changed its features, would

1122
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 5: stay up constantly just to kind of keep up. You

1123
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 5: know what I mean, so it's kind of like, Okay,

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00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: I've been to the mountaintop. I know what it looks like,

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00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 5: and someone else is coming up, but they're not as

1126
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 5: good as I am. So you know, what do I

1127
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 5: have to do to keep up?

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00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 6: Well?

1129
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 5: Okay, stay up, Okay, Well I'm tired.

1130
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 6: Okay, well I.

1131
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 5: Need to get some rest, all right, And then he

1132
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 5: started taking the profofall which gave him the best rest

1133
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 5: he ever had. And you know, the doctor dropped the ball.

1134
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 5: I forgot to wake him up. I gave him too

1135
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 5: much or whatever however that went down. But it was

1136
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: all chasing success. Whitney Houston same way.

1137
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Speaker 6: You know.

1138
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 5: I'm up, up, up, up up. Oh this girl can

1139
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 5: sing better than me. What do I have to do?

1140
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 5: I got it and then started doing whatever she was doing. Prince,

1141
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 5: you know, was physically hurt, you know, with his hip.

1142
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 5: It's like, oh man, you know you're hurt like I.

1143
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Speaker 6: Mean, but I can keep going.

1144
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: I can keep going, and you know, then you know

1145
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 5: his unfortunate demise. So I think that what people have

1146
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 5: to realize. And it hit me on top of the

1147
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 5: head as well when I got sick and started realizing

1148
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 5: when I had all that time off to myself that

1149
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 5: this is just one aspect of who we are as

1150
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 5: entertainer or you know, who I am, you know, and

1151
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 5: being an entertainer is just a small aspect of that.

1152
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 5: So you have to live your life, have a balance life.

1153
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 5: There's nothing more important than that. To be honest with

1154
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 5: your success is one thing. And if you gain a

1155
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 5: whole lot of it, where you're gonna go after a while.

1156
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 5: You know, if you can't go out and be seen

1157
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 5: in society, what's the point of being successful If you

1158
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 5: can't enjoy what with your friends and you can't go out,

1159
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 5: can't go to the mall, can't go to the movies,

1160
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 5: can't can't do anything. You know, you are gonna do

1161
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 5: it with people that are like you. You know, they

1162
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 5: don't even know you. So, you know, just be careful,

1163
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 5: just have a balance life. And what's for you, what's

1164
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 5: meant for you?

1165
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 6: You again?

1166
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Can we meet again?

1167
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 6: That's the sime we meet again?

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: Can we meet again?

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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 6: You know?

1170
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: So as to a proposse, you know, because we're gonna

1171
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: meet again, We're gonna talk, We're gonna smile, we're gonna

1172
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: share stories about Because I have a daughter, she's twenty six.

1173
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: So this is a very personal conversation and just to

1174
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: share you our thought what she calls I stopped talking

1175
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: to everybody to talk there you go, because I don't know.

1176
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: So when it happened to your daughter, it magnified my

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00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: attention to her that you know, she called me at

1178
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Speaker 1: ten and I apologized and I didn't see the call,

1179
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: you know, because she called me for a reason, whether

1180
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: it's just saying she loves me or just to share

1181
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: a personal story. Because again she's out there by herself.

1182
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: She's out there working remote and all these life has

1183
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: changed so much how people live, you know, they don't

1184
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: have to go into work, they'll have to interact and

1185
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: gives you more time to think what time to go online?

1186
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: Like you said, the internet, the social media. But as

1187
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: we close deal with meet again, how can my fan

1188
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: base participate be a partner to support you in getting.

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Speaker 5: This song once again? Come out to my website, go

1190
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Speaker 5: to Willdowning dot com, go to the Friends of Sophisticated Soul.

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Speaker 6: God I know.

1192
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: I love you, and then you go to will down

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Speaker 5: In dot com. They'll tell you where well and come

1194
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 5: on out and come see the show as well. So

1195
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 5: all of that already.

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00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: Make sure you always say Bannister because the one thing

1197
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: about my life man, as I always said, once you

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00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: get past fifty on the down side of your life,

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Speaker 1: I want to support people like you and individuals who

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Speaker 1: have supported me. Unbeknownst, your music has uplifted me. Your

1201
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: music has got me through my downadays. Your musical have

1202
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Speaker 1: inspired me, made me feel good when I felt down.

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Speaker 1: So it's artists like you man play such a major

1204
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: role in the Black community by getting this through our

1205
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Speaker 1: tough times. Thank you Will Downd for coming on Money

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Speaker 1: It comes these Masterclass.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate, appreciate you, sir.

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Speaker 1: We talked soon.

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