WEBVTT - #94 - Cassadee Pope

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome to episode ninety four of The Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>Cast and Cassidy polpus here, Welcome to the house. My

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<v Speaker 1>house like a disaster tracket. It's so ugly. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I kept the lights off downstairs because I closed. I

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<v Speaker 1>just came from a photo shoot and so look goodby,

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<v Speaker 1>got your hair done, jacket on, makeup on. Man. I

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<v Speaker 1>like good at makeup. I like good at makeup. Like

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<v Speaker 1>most of time. I'm like, you know, I'm fine, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's not all for me, It is not it. It

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a solid six and a half. What have

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<v Speaker 1>been makeup on? I'm a seven point three? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't give yourself enough credit. You look wonderful, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I'm People coming up in sweats and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little underdressed, like I'm buried with here. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just in my white tidies the whole time. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, that's great. Yeah. I bet he loved it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So how are you you good? I'm good good. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. You brought cookies. I brought you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>some cookies. Um, okay, all right, I didn't take them,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I don't have to. I got a hood

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<v Speaker 1>of this, I couldn't keep that live. Okay, Uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna sound so bad. It was this lovely woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was one of the chaperones for Christmas for kids

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday night. She gave me a massive bag of cookies. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize, I'm not good at baking or cooking or

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<v Speaker 1>any of that, so but I couldn't come empty handed. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we were cookie less before you got here, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we have cookies, and they were made by a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>woman named Linda with love, way better than anything I

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<v Speaker 1>would have baked. So what have you been doing the holidays? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I've been. My family's all here. My mom's

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<v Speaker 1>also lived here, so that's fun, and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>them here too. Well, my grandma's here, but the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of them are coming next week, so it'll be it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty crazy. Are you hosting the holidays? Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not cooking. My mom and sister the cooks of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>and I take care of the booze and hosting and

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<v Speaker 1>going around making sure all the glasses are full. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's thirty one, she's older sister. Yeah. Yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 1>live here, they do. Yeah, we're all from Florida. And

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<v Speaker 1>I came here first about five years ago. My sister

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<v Speaker 1>came here two years ago. My mom just came here

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<v Speaker 1>in May. Like the perfect timing too, because that's when all,

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<v Speaker 1>like my whole life changed and they moved here from

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<v Speaker 1>from West Palm Beach, Florida. Man, it's much warmer there,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. My mom was just there. But although she

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<v Speaker 1>said at night it was forty degrees, so you have

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<v Speaker 1>nobody goes outside and night, that's true. That's like the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest one onto the weather on the radio and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the lowest twenty two. But no one's awake for

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<v Speaker 1>the low Yeah, you're not going to go really, who cares? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to have a beer on the patio.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, we used to have to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the water running so the pipes wouldn't freeze. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it dripping, And now you don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>to do that as much because pipes are robots. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>for the Christmas for Kids thing, we take a bus,

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<v Speaker 1>a tour bus from the school and bring them all

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<v Speaker 1>to Walmart and go shopping with them and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>they had to turn the plumbing off on the bus,

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<v Speaker 1>so all the kids had like coke and like pizza

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<v Speaker 1>at this pizza party and they all were like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to pee. It was a tour bus. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. All the bus companies are amazing and they

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<v Speaker 1>give these buses for a night and they're just like

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're so kind to do that. But yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>poor kids couldn't couldn't pay on the bus. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to pean on the bus anyway. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's not great school bus, You're okay, that's true. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas So it's basically a school in Hendersonville. They

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<v Speaker 1>take all the kids there that are underprivileged and give

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<v Speaker 1>them a chance to go to Walmart and they have

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty dollar budget to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go and shop. And um, a bunch of people get involved,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of artists, a bunch of just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>volunteers that come and um. The first year I went,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a signing which they do every year as well,

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<v Speaker 1>where people pay to come on the tour bus the

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<v Speaker 1>night before and do signing with all a bunch artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter has done it and Alabama's done it. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>that year they were like, yeah, and you can also

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<v Speaker 1>go shopping with the kids. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that. That sounds fun and so I

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<v Speaker 1>did it last year, Um and it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so it was sweet. It's sad. You know, the kids

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<v Speaker 1>are like, you're afraid to be like do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get presents for your parents? And you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're gonna say, and um, you know, last year,

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<v Speaker 1>the dad actually showed up and they're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>show up at Walmart and it was this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>and they're really really good with security making sure the

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<v Speaker 1>kids are okay, but um, yeah, that was a weird thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And this year the boy was like, yeah, I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>my mom a necklace, but my dad's not really round,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was it's just sad. But you you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta like you just have to treat them like nothing's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fun. We're gonna have fun, and you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of take them away from their crap at home. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there no not at the No you are you the

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<v Speaker 1>singer we're supposed to be hanging out with. I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just somebody person. Kids. How old? How old are

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<v Speaker 1>the kids? They were from like seven to twelve, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're not Cassidy poeans No, No, they definitely don't listen.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably don't. I don't think they listen to country music.

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<v Speaker 1>They were trying to pull up like crazy stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>my phone and I was like, yeah, we're not doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>like really inappropriate rap songs like Linda's getting upset. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>put that away. That's fine. I've been to places before

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm supposed to be the celebrity quote I've a

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<v Speaker 1>finger quote where nobody has any idea. Yeah, I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of makes it feel like, um, you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing it for the right reasons. Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked pretty similar to how I look now, like

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<v Speaker 1>crap with gold tennis shoes rolled up, slightly caprish blue jeans, tan,

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<v Speaker 1>orangeist orangish. Yeah, it's like, yeah, like one, I thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a baggy, baggy outfit day wonderful. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen you for a bit, I guess I've we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>a few times, but I haven't seen you like in

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<v Speaker 1>professional world in a bit. Yeah, it kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>took the year to step away for a minute. Um

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<v Speaker 1>had to go through some transitions on all fronts music, personal, everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was. It was kind of amazing and terrible

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. But like, I loved stepping back

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, all my friends had such a big

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<v Speaker 1>year and I got to enjoy it and watch and

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<v Speaker 1>not be you know, consumed with my stuff. I could

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<v Speaker 1>actually like root for them in a way where it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like I wasn't in the back of my

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<v Speaker 1>head thinking, Okay, what are we What am I doing next?

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<v Speaker 1>What am I doing next? It was it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of nice, but I'm not gonna lie. It's it was

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest year of my life. So musically, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>with your record label anymore, which was Big Machine Group,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's who you were I signed to after The Voice.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does that work? Because you you win The

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<v Speaker 1>Voice season season three? Yeah, five years ago. Wow, So

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<v Speaker 1>that was about the time when I came to town too.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we kind of came to town around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. Weird. Yeah, I think you just beat me

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<v Speaker 1>because I haven't been here five years yet. No way,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, wow, just because I dominate, doesn't may

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<v Speaker 1>not have been here that is amazing now, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think you beat me because you would have had I came.

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<v Speaker 1>I came I think wasting what was your first song,

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<v Speaker 1>wasting all these two Yeah, I think that was already

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<v Speaker 1>happening whenever I got here. And so, yeah, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. So when you finish that show, they go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going You're going to Nashville. Well I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to do country. I sang

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<v Speaker 1>country as a kid. I did the rock thing and

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. Um, but when when I went on

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<v Speaker 1>the Voice, I started singing like all the songs that

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<v Speaker 1>I saying as a kid. I sang cry as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my finale song, and um, I didn't sing

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<v Speaker 1>over You as a kid, but like I wanted, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do that, Like Blake didn't want, he didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, do you? And then, um, it felt

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<v Speaker 1>so good. And I was still listening to country, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I could totally do a country thing where

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<v Speaker 1>I can still incorporate my pop and rock influences. So

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to come to Nashville. I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in l A for a few years. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>before the Voice, I didn't feel super embraced there, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like a fit in, and um, so I

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<v Speaker 1>came here and and um yeah, basically it took me

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Took me a minute to get accepted. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was going back and forth from l A to Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like it's funny, you know, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>much you tell people no, no, like I'm in it

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<v Speaker 1>like this, this is it. I'm not trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>a crossover thing. I love country music. They're like, uh huh, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>until you move here full time. It's like they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really like they don't really embrace you that much. And

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<v Speaker 1>I got lucky. I had some great people behind me,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I got signed a big machine label

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<v Speaker 1>group and that was awesome. But was that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the deal of the Voice, like if you want the

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<v Speaker 1>voice or like I know, on Idol. I friends have

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<v Speaker 1>been on Idol and now friends have been on the Voice.

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<v Speaker 1>But now the Voice they don't put out people that

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<v Speaker 1>people care about it anymore. It's more about the TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's two seasons a year. It doesn't give

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<v Speaker 1>people enough time to really digest artists. And like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea who's won the last I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who's want any seasons except for you and Daniel, only

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you I don't. I've never actually watched

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<v Speaker 1>the voice. Yeah, I literally can't anymore. Yeah, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I knew more questions because I don't want I don't

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<v Speaker 1>well okay, so yeah it's Universal, okay, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>the first country artist to win. So I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be signed Universal in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to or l A. I want, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be in Nashville. So let's figure this out. And

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<v Speaker 1>thankfully I I got also a management deal with Irving

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<v Speaker 1>A's off from that show and who you know manages

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, he's a big probably the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>manager in the history of managers. Yeah probably did ye

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<v Speaker 1>still right now? Huge John Mayor? Yeah, and so he um,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually left the management company I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>get signed to, but he took me with him. I

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<v Speaker 1>got so lucky, and he was like, yeah, we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>renegotiate the deal and you'll get You'll just go to Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you want. So it was like not even

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<v Speaker 1>really the kosher way of doing things for when you

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<v Speaker 1>come off that show, but he figured it out and

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<v Speaker 1>he alongside my my day to day Tina Kennedy, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just so great with that. But I I

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<v Speaker 1>inherited this deal. It was awesome at first, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard because usually when you're with the label, they get

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<v Speaker 1>to know you, they have time to really sit with

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<v Speaker 1>you and develop you. And UM, I didn't have that time.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like, why wouldn't we just put something

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<v Speaker 1>out as soon as we can and strike while the

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<v Speaker 1>iron taught and you know, while people are paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we did, and we at least rereleased Frame

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<v Speaker 1>by Frame, which was I still love that album. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>proud of it, but you can definitely hear there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little confusion. There's like some identity crisis. She was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they just it was like shows over. Okay, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>pick songs. The have a day, pick some songs and

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<v Speaker 1>go sing them and get them out of immediately. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I loved it. I got to come here and

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<v Speaker 1>write and I wrote half the album and and some

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<v Speaker 1>songs I actually put on there that I wrote years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like it was fun and I just

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<v Speaker 1>loved it, but it wasn't. Um, and I noticed it

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<v Speaker 1>now now that I like going through a break up

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<v Speaker 1>this year and just going through a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, I was writing about things from the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's only so much you can do with that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so so you can only go so deep

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<v Speaker 1>with that, and I did. I made it happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>writing in it in the pain, in the struggle is

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<v Speaker 1>so much crazier. I mean you, I've been writings so

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<v Speaker 1>much more now, yes, yeah, more than I've ever done

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. And it's like I'm really excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But back then it was like I'm going to think

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<v Speaker 1>about my ex from when I was eighteen, who like

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<v Speaker 1>who hooked up with my friend two days after we

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<v Speaker 1>broke up, Like I was, look, the worst thing I

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<v Speaker 1>could think of, and my parents divorced. That wasn't fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But um yeah, it just it just is a different game.

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<v Speaker 1>So like listening back to the record, I love it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just like I get why, you know, only

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<v Speaker 1>went so far, so kind of smash that to Now

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<v Speaker 1>when did your record deal? When did that end? Was

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<v Speaker 1>like it was in May actually this year? Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>what happened there? Um, it just we just stopped being

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<v Speaker 1>on the same page and it wasn't what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>So I would send in songs or they would send

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<v Speaker 1>me songs and I'm I'm the kind of artist. If

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<v Speaker 1>I hear a song that I didn't write but I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I did, I'll cut it. I love I just

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<v Speaker 1>love good songs. But they weren't sending me stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I liked and that was me and they didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>like anything I was writing, so it was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we really doing here? And our last ditch effort

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<v Speaker 1>was the Summer EP and I loved that EP, but

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<v Speaker 1>there were compromises their song wise, and I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to do fully what I wanted. I did get to

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<v Speaker 1>go with Corey Crowder, which was great, and I could

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<v Speaker 1>just cut my newest project with him, but um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just it just stopped feeling right and and stopped being inspirational,

0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and it just and it and it was there was

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<v Speaker 1>no bad blood or anything. It just was like, let's

0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:41.959
<v Speaker 1>just call it like it is. And my managers went

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<v Speaker 1>to Scott Bouschetta and just were like, hey, she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>not happy, you're not happy. Let's just call it a day.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't, you know, super clean like they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth negotiations or whatnot. But again, irving more records,

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<v Speaker 1>I did for sure, and I don't anymore. You don't anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know them anything? Because like anything? Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>like a little point thing. But it's I'm really lucky

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<v Speaker 1>with what I think. There was just a respect level

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<v Speaker 1>there between Scott and Irving, and I didn't rock the

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<v Speaker 1>boat in any way. I wasn't mean or weird about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, hey, dude, this isn't working. I

0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.400
<v Speaker 1>think you're cool, but like, can I just move on now?

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<v Speaker 1>So then, so what do you the next day? You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a record here? What's the difference? Well? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>At first. I was like, I felt like there was

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of a weightlifted and it's kind of a jolt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like okay, so what now? Um? But pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>right away I just went in and cut songs that

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<v Speaker 1>I had been writing with Corey Um. I hired like

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<v Speaker 1>a digital creative team that I just outsourced myself, and

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff costs money and your labels not paying

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Now, So did you make some good money

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<v Speaker 1>in the five years? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I got lucky.

0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.280
<v Speaker 1>C I A are amazing, my lucky. If if you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually good and you're working, yeah, you're right. It's not lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>People are like, I got so lucky, but did you

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<v Speaker 1>when you put in all those hours? Well, look, I

0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.640
<v Speaker 1>think there's a certain level of luck, Like there's timing

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<v Speaker 1>and people that come into your life at very interesting time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I don't believe in luck. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the wrong guy. But here's the synergy. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay that you do so. So you had some money

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<v Speaker 1>saved up? I did. Yeah. My my business managers my

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<v Speaker 1>mom's and she's amazing. You probably got good money saved up.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching you back like crazy, Well I'm the one who's like, hey, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think I could go shopping today? Like? Am

0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I good? She's like, yeah, you don't have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>me every time you want to go buy like a

0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.720
<v Speaker 1>good pair of shoes. Like you're good. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't grow up with a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>and like my parents divorced really put my mom in

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<v Speaker 1>a tough position. And business managed for anybody else, just you.

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<v Speaker 1>She does she does a bunch of like YouTube. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing well. She does YouTube. Kids, she wow, like

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<v Speaker 1>band Lydia? Do you know Lydia? I don't know? Okay,

0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.960
<v Speaker 1>she she does a few bands like it's kind of

0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a crazy story. Yeah, how did she get into that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like her degree? Yeah? She she's a c

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<v Speaker 1>p A. She did. She does the books for a

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<v Speaker 1>condominium in West Palm Beach, Florida, which she still goes

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<v Speaker 1>to every month she has to oversee. But I wasn't.

0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I had a big business manager when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>my band, Hey Monday, and he kind of ran us

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground. And my mom was like, I do

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<v Speaker 1>this for a living. I'll help you out for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. And that was probably ten years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's been doing it ever since, and through me and

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<v Speaker 1>through my manager at the time when I was in

0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Hey Monday. He knows she's amazing and he moved here.

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<v Speaker 1>Rohan Coley, who's at Warner Now. I don't know anybody, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody I know no one. I think everybody knows you,

0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.560
<v Speaker 1>but you know nobody. No, it's not. Everybody knows me

0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.880
<v Speaker 1>very one side of the only time I get to

0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.960
<v Speaker 1>know people is when they come and do this. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go out every weekend. I'm on the road. Yeah,

0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I got to bed at eight o'clock. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>want from me? I got nothing. It's okay, nothing, Hey,

0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.760
<v Speaker 1>it's okay, I'm just you know, trying to anyway. Uh yeah,

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.879
<v Speaker 1>we're got out and she's she's killing it. But so

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<v Speaker 1>now your mom's business managing and lots of artists. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty freaking cool. Yeah, and she's probably a plus though.

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<v Speaker 1>You're number one on the list to make sure she's

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<v Speaker 1>checking that. And you saved a bunch of money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got I've got endorsements. CIA was great, and teeth endorsement, yes,

0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:27.760
<v Speaker 1>teeth dentures, it was something. Yeah. Oh man, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>that paid you a ton of money. I have friends

0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that have done commercials and they weren't even doing endorsements

0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.639
<v Speaker 1>like celebrity endorsements, but they would do national spots and

0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:41.280
<v Speaker 1>they would get like I think one of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I mean those corporations, they have sold so much

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<v Speaker 1>money and if they if you can move the needle

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<v Speaker 1>in any way, they're stoked. And it's great. Even when

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<v Speaker 1>I do stand up for corporate gigs and the money

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<v Speaker 1>is unrealistic. Yeah, you want to do corporate gigs because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like a real thing to them. Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Well my so, my, my, the guy who does my sound,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't have a tour this year, so

0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.119
<v Speaker 1>he had to just kind of make money wherever. And

0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.439
<v Speaker 1>he does these corporate gigs where he literally presses mute

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<v Speaker 1>and un mute and he gets paid so much more

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<v Speaker 1>than what I compare him, and I'm just like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not even doing anything. And he gets to go to

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<v Speaker 1>like all these awesome places for a week straight and

0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 1>he's literally there for like an hour pressing mute mute.

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<v Speaker 1>There are comedians that I know, There aren't even the

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<v Speaker 1>A tier comedians that will get thirty grand a night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll take care of you. Fly you in fly I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just go and you talk in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people that work at Sam's Club. Sam's Club.

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<v Speaker 1>I've totally done that gig. I did Dollar General like

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<v Speaker 1>three months ago, and it's all people that work at

0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.479
<v Speaker 1>all the General are brought in and their bosses and

0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.760
<v Speaker 1>it's five people people and you up on stage. You

0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.920
<v Speaker 1>tell your jokes and they're like cool, here's a check,

0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and you're like thank you, but listen, I think I

0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.960
<v Speaker 1>earned the spot. And if they're going to pay somebody

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm that much, I'm happy to take it. Be the

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<v Speaker 1>person they pay. Absolutely and you saved your money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not like I'm not a big spender. I

0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.240
<v Speaker 1>bought a house this year. That was like a big

0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:16.960
<v Speaker 1>investment for me. But the investment where pretty pretty boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>breakup or post. Okay, that's cool. Then at least I

0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.000
<v Speaker 1>have that drama. Oh yeah, no, I right away I

0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, I gotta find a house. I want my

0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.480
<v Speaker 1>dog to have a yard. I want to Yeah. I

0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.720
<v Speaker 1>was living downtown. Yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, I was

0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.920
<v Speaker 1>downtown and it was fun. It was great, I could

0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.639
<v Speaker 1>walk places. But once that ended, I was like, I

0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.080
<v Speaker 1>think I'm ready for like a massive change. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a house. Pays for a house cash. No,

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<v Speaker 1>how much he really had? How much he saved up?

0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean Nicholson saved up? No, not that much. You

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<v Speaker 1>finish so you're out of the deal, which means you

0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.679
<v Speaker 1>have to spend your own money, and you spend your

0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.840
<v Speaker 1>own money differently than when it's somebody else's money. I've

0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.879
<v Speaker 1>learned from having build my own ventures. Sure, so now

0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you got to spend your own money and make music. Yeah,

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and I got I mean, Corey is he's a massive

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.760
<v Speaker 1>champion of mine, Like he is just the best and

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<v Speaker 1>he knows um he's doing. He's cutting me a deal

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's still expensive because he's Corey. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to ask him to do it for free,

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and like I can pay him, but he definitely cut

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<v Speaker 1>me a better deal. When you're an independent artist, you

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.760
<v Speaker 1>tend to get better deals on stuff when when like

0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the studio knows you don't have a label fronting it

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and the mixer masters and all that, like it's cheaper.

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So like when Walker Hayes produced some stuff for me,

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<v Speaker 1>some of some raging idiot stuff, I was just like, hey, dude,

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll pay a little bit, but how about you own

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<v Speaker 1>some of it so I can have some points on

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 1>that because it was just easier and I knew we'd

0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.280
<v Speaker 1>sell a good amount of singles. And he was like, yeah, cool, cool, cool.

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's what we is, That what you guys are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just pay him straight up paying him. I

0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 1>need to talk to him, he needs to work about

0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.240
<v Speaker 1>a deal. If he's taking less money, he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>get some of his action. Well yeah, I mean my

0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.400
<v Speaker 1>thing is so I want to release it independently and

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<v Speaker 1>if a label gets involved eventually I will make sure

0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.120
<v Speaker 1>he's taken care of, and I'm going to keep using him.

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<v Speaker 1>So release it independently, meaning you're going to I'm gonna yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put it out. I'm gonna put it out

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<v Speaker 1>on iTunes and all of that, and um, you know,

0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>lean on my fans. I saw an instan story where

0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you were like listening to the music. Did you do that?

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Fans know I've been working on it. They know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming. I just don't have a release date yet,

0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and I know for sure it's going to be. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be probably in February. Oh that's pretty quick. Yeah, yeah,

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>because I just and it's fun, like I have my

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 1>own timeline. That's another thing, you know, with with the

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>label and stuff, you don't you know, I have to

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 1>worry about that. I have some of the new stuff here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of Cassidy's new songs. There you go, agize.

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<v Speaker 1>She was looking at me like what do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you have it? Yeah? Let me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>sleep number for one second. So when it comes to

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:08.000
<v Speaker 1>holiday gifts, what gift could be better than the gift

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to sleep? Even for yourself. You may be hearing this

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:13.680
<v Speaker 1>before Christmas. Maybe you're hearing this way after Christmas. I

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know when you listen to this thing, but I

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>can tell you this. I do love my Sleep number bed.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe you thought you couldn't afford to sleep number

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that at nine out of ten couples

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:26.119
<v Speaker 1>disagree on mattress firmness. The sleep number bed let you

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0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 1>to find the story near you and tell him I

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 1>think you're cool. Okay, So all, are you putting out

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 1>music in February? Are you done with it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for somebody to possibly sing on it. And

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say who because I don't know

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>if he's going to do it. Oh me the two spectrums, yes,

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the best and the absolute worst. So okay, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>almost done, then I'm almost done and uh yeah, and

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I've got out my publishing. I'm you got out of

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:42.120
<v Speaker 1>your publishing. My publishing people were paying you to write, yes, essentially, Yeah,

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I I was on like an artist publishing deal, which

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't really have to meet a quota or anything.

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just basically like they're in charge of getting you

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<v Speaker 1>sings or getting you pitching new songs for for you

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to get and record or whatever. You know. There there's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely there's an advance at the first when you first

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 1>saw line, but it just again, it just kind of

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>ran its course. And then um I also I like,

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>oh my managers, which was tough because it's like a

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>full purge. Yeah. Yeah, I guess you kind of need to.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna go se you almost have to go

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred. Yeah. The only person I kept was Darren Murphayette, CIA.

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I was like, you've been you know, consistent, You're

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>my rock here. You're like and and and you know,

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's easy when you're not doing well or you're

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>not you don't have anything going on for somebody to

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I'm gonna go over here now and

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you figure it out on your own. But

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>like he never did that. He was always really and

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>not that everybody else did, but he just he was

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>just amazing. He kept me busy, he kept me on

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the road, he kept making me money. And and that's

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like he's there's no, it's not broke. So c A,

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 1>by the way, as an agency, fullest closure with c

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>A is my agency to good people. They're all the same.

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean really like I I have went

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to see A because I know because I'll liked my

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>specific agent. By the way, I never signed with c

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>A in Nashville. I signed with CE in New York

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>for television, and it was like, Hey, your band selling

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>tickets for like five people and night in theaters, why

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>don't you get a agent? Like all right, And so

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I went and talk to people and then I just

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like the people to see A better. I didn't. I

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know the difference. The difference, I'm not. I guess

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't really either, but I love it. I love CIA,

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>so it's like I do too because because I like

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the people that I work with directly exactly. So that's

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>an agency. Do you have to give of everything or

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>do you have a better rate? Why why do you

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>say it like that? I don't know. I don't know

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>if like it's weird? Is that weird? To disclose? Oh?

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I had a podcasts talking about my money last time

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>where I was I was like, listen, let me tell

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>you because I said I was talking about my money. So,

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>first of all, it's on my radio. Contract is different

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>because I have a radio agent which I fired, but

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 1>he gets seven percent. But in radio normal is like

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>but as you grow you can actually negotiate down. And

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a pretty solid spot to go. I'm not

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you're not taking that much money out of my paycheck.

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So I have to pay him seven percent. But then

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>all the stand up comedy, all the it goes like this.

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>It goes managers takes did your manag you have a

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>manager right now? Did? Okay? Then my agent takes ten

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a business manager depending on yours is your mom. I

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know what you pay your mom, but mine takes

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:34.479
<v Speaker 1>four and so they're from anything. And again, yeah, I'm

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>complaining a little bit, but these are necessities. I need

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>these people to help me book shows, to manage have

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 1>books and music and radio shows and people. And I

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>don't even know. I don't even live that money. I

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>know nothing about money. So I have a business manager

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>make sure abody gets paid and so. But before I

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>even get paid, forty cents of a dollar is gone. Yea.

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm not complaining about the job that I do.

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>It just kind of sucks that you have to pay people.

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could just get all the money. I

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>pay no taxes too. By the way, but I did

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>a whole world. I did a whole show on here

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>about that, like this is the independent contractor world of

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 1>artistry and how it works and all the odd people

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>we have to pay. The people just wouldn't know about it.

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't a woe was me, Like this is what happens

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're an artist. You have a manager, you have agent,

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a business manager. I just did a photo

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>shoot and it cost me, Like, yeah, dude, it's so

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>funny when I'm like in coach and people recognize me

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and they're like where she in? First? People are like,

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>what don't you have a private chat? I'm like what

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>on TV? I'm like, who do you think I am?

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift? But well she has her own a couple

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of those things. So okay, so here you are. I forgot. Yeah,

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you can disclose it ever I listen, you know, or

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you can not. Just call it everyone. I don't care. Okay,

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna have new music out. I'll talk about

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend for a second. I met him a couple

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>of times. Yeah, because I didn't know him, I guess

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I really didn't know you that well. No, no, I

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know why. No, because I don't know any I'm

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>telling you, I don't know anybody like get I don't

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>think so just because I don't have the schedule. My

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>life is not conducive to having friendships, so I don't

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>have them. I'm gonna bite my tongue on that one.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>You can say what you want. Mike is my only friend?

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Is about because we traveled together in the last six days, Cassie,

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, I've been in New York, l a, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Nashville.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>It's five cities in six days. It's pretty crazy. That's

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>why how many friends? Because I'm a dick, I don't.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I pleaded the fifth on that one.

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've had very good experiences with you,

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>so I'm I guess I just want to that way,

0:28:58.120 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll keep you at arms length, so I don't

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like catch the no, I don't. You don't get a

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>douche fibe. I was out with Jillian because Jillian Jaquelin

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>has been on the road with me for the past

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>three months. It's awesome, right, that's that. With Jillian, I

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>may have told this story. I don't know, i'd see.

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, I don't know stories I tell on

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and off the air because they're all do that too though.

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>That's just human stuff. Well, so I was with Jillian

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and she was she did you know fourteen shows with us?

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I think raging idiot shows. So we're playing on these

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>theaters and she was like, finally get finally get you.

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? She goes, you just go a

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>to be like, you know whatever, you just leave it

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>because we're in a room and this guy would not

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>stop talking, and he was out of control. So I

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>just left and she was in there still, and she

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>was in there. Just abandoned her, and so I just

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>got en left because he was kind of out of control, right,

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And then so I left and she was like, man,

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I admire how you can. I said, here's the stages

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>of me. First of all, people go, well, that was

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of rude, and then then after about the third

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>time to go, well, he's kind of weird. And then

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>after a while they go, that's just Bobby, that's just

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing mean about it. He's just kind of yeah, yeah,

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>but no douche vibe because I don't think I'm cool.

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I think right, that's when you're you're think you're cooler

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>than you are, so you overcompensate. Dude, like, hey, look

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>at cool, look at look at my selfie in the mirror,

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>look at my reclainers and my cool room when I

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>have my podcast. Okay, I don't like that impression. I'm

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>not very good impression for me. That was not good. Okay,

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>So I met your ex boyfriend a couple of times.

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Seemed like a nice fellow, but you got the thing

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was you guys were together forever eight years, and that

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>was the whole story. It was like, oh, yeah, they've

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>been together forever. Yeah, we got engaged in February this year. Yeah,

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you got engaged in split that that's a pretty quick engagement. Yeah.

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I know. So when he was in a band, Huh

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he in like different different alle Yeah, drummer. Yeah,

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they're so good, so good. I'm still a big fan.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>They're they're killing it. I wouldn't be a big fan

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>if I broke up with somebody. I'm just kidding. I'm

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>a huge fan. Is let me hear this. Lendsay and

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Cassidy are like friend friends. Yeah, we are like, I

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>don't have time for friends. I was like girl friends. No,

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>well no that that and I had time for a

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend too. Yeah that's just that's that's a whole different thing. Yeah.

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I end up talking about that openly, super openly,

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. But I will say that we saw you.

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>We were at dinner, uh two weeks ago, and it

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>was me Amy and the girl at styles Amy and

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I both and so it was our stylist and so

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>we go out, we're having dinner and I say, hey,

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>there's Cassidy and I see you because you're covered in tattoos,

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>like your arms, and I was like, oh, there's because

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the rshia was packed, but I see your arm tattoos.

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, there's Cassidy. I was gonna go up

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and say. I walked up in and Len sitting right

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>next to you. A name is Linday Till I got

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>right up to you. Non, I was like, oh my god,

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that's oh yeah, we didn't see until you walked on

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>up and I was like hey, and then Amy walks

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>up and starts talking and then is it awkward? I

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, what's awkward? It was great. Honestly, everybody

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>handled themselves. There was nothing to handle. Look, you guys dated,

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>We still talk. She was over here yesterday evening dropping

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>off presents. I love her. Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah, there's

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>a zero percent. We were texting today about something because

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>she's in Chicago. Like, there is zero weirdness. You don't

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>have to cough and be like maybe at some point

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>there will be. But we're good. We're good good. I'm glad.

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>We've never been better. I mean, yeah, would be better,

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you know what I mean. Here we go

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to move on. Okay, this is I want to hear

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that yours. That's all. Like I torture people abou playing

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>their ex's music. Honestly, I haven't listened to this in

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a very long time. So he's a drummer. He's don

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>a terrible job so far drumming, and I heard nothing.

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I heard no drums. I'm not feeling his drumming yet.

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm singing to the sky just right. I mean, I've

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>heard better drumming. I'm gonna tell you he's a real

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>good drummer. I don't hear this song. He's not showcasing

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>his ability. Year started. It's certainly more alternative this this album,

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>but they went a little bit more mainstream alternative. What

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>is that new? That's new? Yeah? So okay, So you're

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>dating this dude for eight years other than my dog,

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing going on for eight years, Like I don't.

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a family member that I've been I've

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>known for climbin calls too, for eight years. Like that's

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a that's a long time. It really is. It really is.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's a lot of when you're with

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody that for that long, there's a lot of transitions,

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of change. A lot of yeah, yeah, like

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in the world like you had we had a dog,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 1>have a dog that's mine now, Cubby, I don't have

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>a pop filter. So this is very intense. You guys

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>break it off after eight years? Huh? And it nobody

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>did anything wrong. It was just like really, nobody anything wrong. No,

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>like and this is the thing, we both agreed we

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't get crazy with details and like tell everybody or

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like air out the dirty laundry, because there really isn't

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>any It's just we just it just wasn't anymore. It

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>just it was. And then it wasn't playing shrink here.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>If you got engaged in February and unengaged in May,

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>then it must have been a realization set in because

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty big part of like what makes you

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>am I really committed to because you have to really decide. Then, yeah,

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it makes you, It makes you think about it. You know,

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's an idea until it became reality and

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you start talking about weddings. Why did by the way

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>eight years? You know, actually a lot of it was me.

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to be in a good

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>place in my career. I want to feel content. And

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 1>then when I never ever ever felt content. I was like, Okay, well,

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.439
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to wait anymore. This is never gonna

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>be the music career is never going to be like

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>in a place where I can just because if that,

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>if that's you, then like I feel like, creatively, you'll

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>never find a spot. You won't find a spot. And

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>now I don't think you should. I think you should

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>be happy and grateful and have gratitude, but like you

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>should always want to do better and accomplish more. But anyway,

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>once I was like, yeah, that's not gonna happen. Did

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you do the thing where? Because I don't know because

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>you obviously didn't stay in that house. We're just living

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>in a house together, apartment. Okay, so what did you

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 1>do the thing where? Did you both leave the apartment?

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>So he had to leave for a while and you

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>got out your stuff and left, well he was he

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>like left for tour really quickly after, and so I

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>had time. Yeah, I had a transitional period, and my

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>mom had She literally was like I was going through

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the breakup of the getting out of my deal, getting

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>out of my management company, all this stuff, and she

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>was like she was like, is it bad like this

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>me moving here? What is causing all of this? I

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, you moved here because I needed you.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>You don't believe in this stuff? Um yeah, I mean

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 1>basically yeah, like her moving here during all of that,

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't like, oh good, you're here, I'm going

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>to do all this. It literally was simultaneous, and I

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, you're here because there's something like the

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>universe was like you're going to need your mom here

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>for you. So it was thank god she was here.

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>But so all that happened, you go to therapist. Oh yeah, okay,

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I got to say, because I would have had I

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 1>would have been one every day I went with all

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>of that, and that's a lot because I go once

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a week. Yeah, me too, and that's once a week

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 1>is a good amount. It's good. Yeah. Now, like when

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I go once a week, I'm like, oh my gosh,

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I have so much to tell you and I'm in

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>an awesome place and if I feel great, then I

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>was just like crying every day. I was like, you know,

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a mass and I needed to go two days a week.

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>And I always was like afraid of therapy because there's

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot from my childhood that sucked and like my

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 1>parents divorce was pretty smultuous, and like, do you think

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that kept Eve wanted to get married though? No, I

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't afraid of getting married. I really wasn't. I just

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. Yeah, it just wasn't the right person. And yeah,

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm not afraid of marriage. I think it's great.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I think it's beautiful. I have friends

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that are married that are super happy. And the thing

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>is is it's work, like you definitely, it shouldn't be

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>like you wake up every morning you're like, oh, I

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>have to make it work with this person, but there

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>will be tough times and you have to want to work.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>And I we weren't in a place where we were

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>willing to do that. So it's just kind of you know, wonder.

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder about that about your mom and your

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>dad too, because I don't know. I never saw a

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>successful relationship, So I never knew my real dad ever, right,

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I know your story, which she was Addeica

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>whole life, But I never saw really a happy relationship ever.

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I never saw anything staid together. And she was married

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to biological fathers. I was four or five, and she

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>had boyfriends on and off and depending where we live.

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>We moved around a lot. Yeah, when you have money,

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you just live where yourn live. And so she had

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>different boyfriends and we've sent up moving with them my

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>step dad and they ended up getting divorced. So I

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>never saw a relationship work. And I see people whose

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>relationships work, but it's so ingrained in me that relationships

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>don't work well and that and that's something like, that's

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>good that you're going to therapy, because that's something that

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>that sucks, like you shouldn't. That shouldn't be a thing,

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I know, it's hard when you've gone through all

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>those experiences like that. I had an epiphany this year

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>with my therapist where I was like, why have I

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>never been single? From fifteen? I've had boyfriends. I've just

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>one boyfriend after the other. And now that I don't,

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like lonely and I want somebody and I don't

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>know what to do. And she's like, because like, you know,

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I've I've always had a difficult relationship with my dad

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and he would come in and out of my life

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's still not great. And and she's like, it's

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>because like you didn't really have a male figure in

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>your life that was dependable, and so you're trying to

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>find that in these guys that you're with and you

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>have to, like, you have to find that like inner

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>peace and happiness to like be okay with being alone,

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and like, finally I found it, but it took it

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>took like six months. That's not any time you're having

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to like six months, I felt like forever. Because let

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>me tell you, there's nothing you did. You go out

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and you should date a hundred people. Yeah, I've been

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>You should like you really should. You should go out

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and you shouldn't get any relationship. I'm gonna give you

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a little advice. I'm a little older than you, but

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>not so much older than you that it doesn't matter.

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I probably live, I'm probably less mature than you. I

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know about that. So this is because I have

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>always been single. I'm the opposite, and then rarely do

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I get a girlfriend like Lindy and I dated. I mean,

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like four girlfriends in my life, my whole life,

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and so I kind of the same reason. But the

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>right sure, you just need to go in to day.

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>You need to spend about a year just dating different.

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Here we go again. You're gonna go try to find something.

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Just this is what happened. I was like, I don't

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>even want to date anybody for a while, and so

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I just like sat in my sadness and loneliness for

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>for a while, and then I was like, okay, um,

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I need to do everybody my point, not not don't

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>date anybody. I've been Yeah, I've liked dated, I've been

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>going on dates and all that, but I just want

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 1>those in particular a little comic. Okay, just be careful,

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I am, and all to do the Nashville the players. Oh,

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>don't say that. All I was with one that was

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>here and he's not a player eight years though before

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>he was. That's true, but I'm just saying I don't

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's That's a blanket statement. You do, yeah, but

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>blanket statements exists for reasons because blankets are warm and

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>comfortable and they make sense at times. So you do you.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll keep you up the that you care, but I

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>do know I care. I'll send you a message. It's

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the story. Yeah, yeah, that was as one was funny.

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Not often, but sometimes, like I say, you want where

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you want through Christmas? Why did I went to the

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Dancing Lights? Which oh this is one was she tagged

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>me because my voice is on the instant they do

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that Jellystone lights and I'm a record of the thing

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>four years ago and it's like, hey, it's Bobby Bones

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and say me. She's like, hey, here are you on

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the radio on my radio and the light And I'm like,

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I've never been paid for that? Why this It is

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>not even a charity if it's anything like, I don't care,

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure. I'm not sure either. I'm not

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>sucks to get in there. Yeah, And she was like,

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>who do I need to beat up? And I was

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>like Santa, And okay, wait we get sidetracked here. So

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>first of all, no no relationships. You can get whoever

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>you want. Okay. Second of all, this quick stop music

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 1>for five years, come back of five years. No more music,

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh hell no, that is not possible for me. Number three,

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>no more deodorants cutting all the things off you. We're

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>just trying to get me to be that's what you

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>need to be kicked more, alright, and just go and

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>live your life on an island and and just not

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 1>come back. I really like my nest thermostat I'm good.

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna there's nestlap one too. It tooked up not

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>on my phone. Yeah, it's so I can literally hit

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>an app. It's so great. And do you have on

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 1>your phone? Yes, I have the cameras. Yeah, me too.

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I just like to feel I left your parking spot

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>up front to thank you. I don't always do that

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>sometimes sometimes guys get upset with me. They drive big

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.919
<v Speaker 1>trucks and they can't fit. I still have my little

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Kia from the voice you do my baby well, so

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I left her and just call her in l A.

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>When I was here for like a year basically, and

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't put any mileage on it. And then

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I brought her here and it's like since two thousand thirteen,

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.879
<v Speaker 1>it's only like fifteen thousand miles. But you've been on TV.

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought you'd have like Bentley. I know, right, it's

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>wrong with me, isn't it is? You? People feel like

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>if you've been on the radio, I had a song

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>on the radio or a song on TV, al right,

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're rich. Yeah like that. People assume that you're

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.839
<v Speaker 1>automatically rich. But people don't understand that, Like you were

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>saying earlier, and I'm glad you did an episode about

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>people you have to pay because it's crazy. It's like

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>there's so many people that make it happen, so when

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it happens, it's like you kind of the last person

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to get paid. Yeah, that's a good that's a good point.

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>You are the last person to get paid. And I

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>was talking about how artists I know, um that do

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.359
<v Speaker 1>like first of three slots, you know, on tours, they

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>will break even or lose money. Yeah, or maybe make

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit because people even pay because they have

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to pay band that pay all the travel. And thinking

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>about artists who you got to pay for everything, all travel,

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Like when I go out and do stand up, I

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>have to pay for travel for merch Um, I take

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>out an extra opener with me tour manager, and they

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 1>got to pay them hotel rooms. That's crazy. And we're

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>only complaining because we can. Like it's a great complaint

0:43:58.320 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to have. I mean, we're luck we get to do

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>We're not lucky. Sorry you don't like that word. I

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>don't listen. If you want to use it, that's okay,

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>undersend the context of it. Yeah, you mean we're fortunate

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to do what we love. We are I don't really

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I don't believe in love. I believe luck

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>is just putting yourself in a spot. And if you

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>put yourself in the right spot, eventually something is going

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to happen. No, you're right, you have to work for it. Yeah.

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And if you get the first time you buy at

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>took you one of the first time and you're like, well,

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you're on the right spot to buy the lot. You

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>went to the store. You went to the store. And

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're unlucky, well you probably walking on the sidewalk

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>when the piano fell out, Like you need to look

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>up when you say, like, look out before you start

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>walking on the sidewalk walking by buildings. That's true. Okay,

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 1>so you're starting your life over basically. Yeah. And I

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>read this book You Are a Badass by Jensen Saro,

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and the therapy therapy was amazing, it was great. I

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 1>got to get it all out. But this book is

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like what set me over the edge to like my

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>blissful like life is awesome, I feel great, like that

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>book is. It's it's all I mean, it's all about

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>self esteem. Like if you love yourself when you're you're

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:12.280
<v Speaker 1>like you feel worthy, then everybody's going to feel that energy.

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 1>And you're gonna as soon as I felt that way, Um,

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody like wanted to hear the music. People were hearing

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>about the music and like labels and stuff. We're like

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>when can we hear when can we hear it? And

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I don't know. I mean I'm not.

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can hear it, but I'm not. I

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want to really sign with anybody right now. And

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>like you know, started going on dates and my friends

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>all are like, yeah, there's definitely something happening with you.

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like palpable, like your confidence and whatever it is.

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>And like it just felt like there was like a

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>massive shift after I read that book. So anytime I

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>can like bring it up, I do, because even if

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't feel like you need it, it's just a

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>great read. It's awesome, you know book I like Green

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Eggs and him. You know what book that was really

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>fantastic is The Places You'll Go. It's still the best.

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I can read that book and be inspired. Still it

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of makes me sad, Like it makes me sad.

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>It's nostalgic and like a really sad and then you

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it's nostalgic because you didn't go a lot of those

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>places that you thought, you what is a kid and

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, Walt, Walt. When I was strain, that's

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a good one. And I bought What's Funny as my

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>main producer on my radio show. Her name is Morgan

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>when she graduated college, because she was an intern for me.

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Then she was a phone screener. Then I wanted to

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>keep around, so I hires my assistant and then I

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>put her on the so she worked her way up.

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>But when she graduated college, I bought her that book

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>The Place that You'll Go and wrote her a whole

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>note on I was like, hey, nobody works harder than

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you wherever you want to go. And now she's running

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the show crazy, But that book, that's still a cool book.

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>And what's your book called again? You are a Badass?

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Is it for girls? That's twelve? Yeah, it's it's a big,

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 1>like yellow it's super super like poppy book. You can

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 1>see it from mile away. But it's awesome. I should

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>give you bare bones. Oh dude, I have it. I

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>just haven't read it yet, Okay, I'm just being honest. Yeah,

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Well let me what do you mean you have it?

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you get it for free? Did you buy it

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>with your money. Oh well, that's cool. They appreciate that.

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Let me know, when you read it would change your life.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited change your life. Yeah. I mean, like, I

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>see all of the reviews and they're they're all ravings. Yeah,

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 1>but let me tell you about those reviews. They're a

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit screwed up because I got in there one day.

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:35.399
<v Speaker 1>My my listeners are the best because I'm honest with them.

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>They don't always they don't always enjoy me, but I'm

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>honest with them. And so there's a respect between my

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>listeners and myself to where even if you don't like

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, I'm at least telling you my truth,

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 1>right even and we can disagree, and that's fine most

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 1>of them. And I say, hey, so because of that respect,

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, give me a solid go over to

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Amazon and just give it five stars, everybody, even if

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you had like a thousand review Yes, now, to be fair,

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it was the New York Times best seller for four weeks. Now,

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't fake that part of it. But if you

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>look at Amazon and don't by the way, if you're

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>listening right now, go give it five stars. And I'm

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>almost I'm always on my second one right now, So

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm so that comes out in June. Yeah, all right,

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I gotta read that first one first. You don't have to. No,

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not because I don't have anything else. I don't

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>want to write the first anything. Like, I was exhausted.

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like a watch rag when you squeeze it, and

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>a wahrag. How country dis It's it's like like you

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>get a piece of cloth wet and you squeeze it

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>when you ring it out, yes, and then it's like

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no more water in it. Yeah, that's what I

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>felt like when I finished that book. You got to

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>dip the towel and some more water. Well, I did,

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and I did a ted talk and that's what I

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>did the second book on on how to Fail and

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.240
<v Speaker 1>why failing is great, yes, and how it actually helps

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you succeed. Oh my gosh, so crazy you're saying that. Literally,

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>on my drive here, I saw the sun setting on

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 1>it sound like a hippie right now, it's still since

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it on the like the Nashville skyline, and I just

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>looked at it and I had this overwhelming feeling of

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>gratitude for all of like the bad things that I've

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.359
<v Speaker 1>been through this year. I was like, thank you. That's

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>how you learn. You have to And so that's what

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the book is. It's oh man, I'm so excited for that.

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>And I have people that have sent I have friends, um,

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>like do you know Dean Sandrews's football player? So I

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>reached out to Dion and like the governor of Arkansas,

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 1>and people are like, hey, what, I don't care about

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>their success, Like what's your worst story? Right? When were

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you were your lowest? Because when people see all the time,

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 1>is everybody up on their high because that's what that's

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>where everybody's looking up. Yeah, they want that hope. And

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 1>so my story is and the book that I'm writing

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is you have to go through five hundred of those

0:49:56.480 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 1>bad things to learn have resilience and even the it

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.800
<v Speaker 1>is that you see failed miserably so many times. So anyway,

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what the books about. I love that that

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 1>would be the second But you can't read it until

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>the second book unlocks after you read the first one, right,

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 1>because there's a combination hidden in the first book that

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you can't even open the second book until it's until

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you find the combination. Yeah, yeah, it's a whole thing.

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a little thing we're working on, really involved. Don't

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>drink water. Um, let me see what I have appear

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>for you Waterloo. What is that? Oh? It is um?

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I like, so I stopped drinking sodas years ago. That's good. Yeah,

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>so I drink coke today though I love them. I

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 1>was a little hungover. I love cold you. Last night

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 1>action party, no, actually, which was a bad idea to

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 1>do karaoke? Nope, I was there for an hour. Did

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 1>they pressure you to do karaoke if you go somewhere

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, Cassidy, if you're a good singer, goes

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>do some karaoke, like blow everybody's face off. No, it's

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy, I think. Well, first of all, and

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 1>one person recognized me in that pub. Everybody else was

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:04.240
<v Speaker 1>just hammered and didn't couldn't see. So it was great.

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:06.279
<v Speaker 1>But I just I just like be lined to the

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 1>back of the room because I can't handle a smokey

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 1>bar like that. It was too much. It was fun.

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I did it. I never went before, but

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I gotta get out here. And then

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:18.360
<v Speaker 1>we ended up going on Broadway, and you went on

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Broadway Broadways like the mess. It's like tourists and everybody

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>gets just plastered and people are just peeing on the road. Yeah,

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's it at the same time. People vomit

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and pe at the same time, like a v or

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>a palm it. Yeah, disgusting. You went on Broadway, Huh?

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I did. I just sometimes I don't care. Why don't

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you just hop in one of those bands, I'd be funny.

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I do. So my band plays. They My guitarist name

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 1>is Benji, and they have their own side thing, Benji

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and the Jets, and they play a gig. Yeah, pretty good,

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and they play every Saturday night at Valentine sometimes Friday nights.

0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>And if I go, I pop up there and we

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.800
<v Speaker 1>do like think of you or one of my songs

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 1>or something. But I don't I love it. It's like

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm kind of a yes girl this year, well

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>over the past few months, and I just I'm like, yeah,

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll go if I'm in my pjs on the couch.

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I used to be like, Nope, done at seven. I

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 1>don't care if you text me I'm done for the night.

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>But now I'll be like, all right, I got a rally.

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 1>It's time to go and always something awesome happens always,

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>but most of the time, So what do you do?

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 1>What do you do today? I got what's your life like? Now?

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Um So, I my phone broke last night. Last night

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>was quite the night. Okay, it didn't break because I

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>was drinking. It broke because I just stopped charging. I

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 1>was at home and I was like, this isn't charging.

0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:42.359
<v Speaker 1>So I went out. I brought my iPad. It looked

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:44.959
<v Speaker 1>like a crazy picture. I package, your phone is broken,

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that's funny, and I was like Santa's pub trying to

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>get WiFi and it's bad. But I. Um so, this

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 1>morning my I was like, yeah, mom, I gotta go

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>get a new phone. And she's like, don't go to

0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the mall. Don't get a new phone because she caught

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>me and I phone for Christmas. So I went over

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to she did was wrapped in everything. You have it? Oh, yeah,

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that's it's awesome. You know to use it yet No,

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I took me five minutes to figure out I to

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 1>shut it off. So you just wanted to turn it off.

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I just needed to turn it off to get my servants. Basically,

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>just push one button and hold it down. No, that's Siri. No,

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it's to turn it off like watch, you have to

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>hold this button down or there it's it. Wait, am

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:34.719
<v Speaker 1>I wrong? Oh that's what it isn't even know that's me.

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>That's an example of me being a douche right there,

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that's it. I was. Yes, So it's these two buttons.

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why it never turns off the Oh my gosh,

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the phone that never shut. I only talked to Siri

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.359
<v Speaker 1>by saying hey, Siri, though, oh I I have used

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.359
<v Speaker 1>it when I'm driving to call somebody. I'm really weird.

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I will not touch my phone when I'm driving. That's

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 1>like a big no no. Yeah, I don't either, but

0:53:57.840 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't ever push the button. Now, I say, hey,

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Siri called Cassidy Pope trainer to call me poop face mine. Yes,

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm mature. My name is big bad Voodoo Boggy. Do

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you know how a big bad boodo daddy is. I

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:20.919
<v Speaker 1>never heard a big bad boody daddy, not bad voodoo daddy. Yeah,

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 1>so that's a mouthful, big bad boody daddy. Back in

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the people abbreviate that mm hmm. Here. Back in like

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the nineties or at least two thousands, this big band

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.280
<v Speaker 1>thing came back. It was like Brian sets Or Orchestra

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and Big Bad Boodoo Daddy. They're also in Swingers, okay,

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>and the band Yeah, I know you're talking. Yeah I

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know their music and so no nobody does. But yeah, anyway,

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>dick it, that's good. You would know. I bet you

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of know this song No hold on You Me

0:54:53.160 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and the Bottle Make three. You see, you don't even

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:01.759
<v Speaker 1>a good music. You need to be on people to

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>know good music. Jim, do you know Cherry Pop and

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Daddy's like zoot Suit, Riot, Ze, Sue Riot. What are

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you saying? Oh my goodness, Cherry by the way, what

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a bad name for all my mouse went out every

0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:19.879
<v Speaker 1>way They're called Cherry Pop and Daddy's that's name, yeah

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 1>it is. But zoot Suit Riot, Riot Back, bottle of Beer, Yeah,

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that's this one. So this is this is the whole thing.

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>And like the late nineties or the two thousands where

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>all these bands that were big band, we're all in

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>pop radio. This is when I was like a teenager

0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>on pop radio. So I don't remember that. I was

0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>very I was in like into Michelle Branch or something.

0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 1>But again I was on the radio. Yeah, you had

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to know everything out, all of it. Hold on, I'm

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you this one. You're gonna do you do

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:09.280
<v Speaker 1>you remember Doug, the guy that did the cartoon dog Dude, Dude,

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. He did um covers of like pump songs,

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>but he did it in like a Sinatra way. He

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't real artist. I mean, I don't want to say that. No,

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean he wasn't to make his own stuff up.

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. So. It looks like this is all

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 1>look out, jump driving well or something. Jump job, jump

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 1>job job. So you were like ten or something. Oh,

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I was probably into Backstreet Boys. Eight. I take a

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 1>picture of the Backstreet Boys all in. It was all

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in me and my eyes were closed. So it was

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:55.840
<v Speaker 1>my one shot. Was all everybody was in because they

0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>were like, we take a picture of my eyes were closed.

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Hang it. I'm at them at the a c m

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:06.920
<v Speaker 1>MS last year. This year, I met in this year honors. No,

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:10.799
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, a c m S I was at.

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I met him at CMT Artists of the Year. Okay,

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't go to that, gotcha? Okay, Yeah, it'd be

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool to get in the door there. This was

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 1>my coming, I'm coming back. Okay. So just to recap,

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot. No, I think it's just a lot

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of life. It's so much life, but I love it. Yeah,

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a lot of life. I think you

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>probably learned a lot in this last year, more than

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 1>more than the last seven years. It's so true. It's

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 1>once I was like, okay, I'm gonna start following my heart.

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>That's when everything went crazy. It was like a ship store.

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, we want It was like a ship storm.

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>We don't think we're live on the radio. If not,

0:57:55.640 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna sadly disappointed. Nobody's calling in where everybody it

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I just once I started doing that,

0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it was really bad. At first, I was like, why

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:08.800
<v Speaker 1>did I do this again? Why did I fire everybody

0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and break up with my nex? And then and then

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>now I'm like, oh got it. I'm so much happier.

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel cleansed. M good for you. I would be

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 1>as a dude. As a dude, and now we're dating

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>a girl that was just out of a seven year relationship.

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Be one. Well, I'm not like tough. I'm telling you

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 1>as a dude, even though I would act cool and

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, I have, but I would be like,

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 1>oh really yeah, because it's you wonder yea, yeah, but

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm it's I mean, I can say it's all blue

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>in the face, but yeah, it's that's done. Like if

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you were dating a dude who was in a relationship

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>for ten years basically and he's been out for a

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>few months, when you want to be like, I wonder

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>what part of that he's holding on too? Yeah, but

0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm honest, I'm like, I always love him, I respect him,

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>He's amazing. Nobody did anything wrong. But it's if you like,

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 1>unless I give you a reason to not trust me,

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 1>then I think you should just be open up your

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 1>heart and be open minded. I like to share with

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you my favorite thing about me. If you don't wind,

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't have an open hair. No, it's I love

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to give a relationship advice, and I can't keep one

0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>together to say, my freaking life. It's like, it's like

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 1>five years of let me give you some great relationship advice.

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Yet here's the blind audition from you. Yeah, this is

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 1>how you doing. Do you remember the song you did torn, Natalie.

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember walking up the stairs and I had a

0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:41.280
<v Speaker 1>ring on and I put my hand on the railing.

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 1>It was like dead silent was like where a yeah,

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like I think it was the universal lot. Okay, so

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you went this is on the show show Yeah, okay, yeah,

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:55.400
<v Speaker 1>but you had to sing somewhere else first, right? Oh yeah?

0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:57.919
<v Speaker 1>I had Like they did a um, what's it called

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:00.880
<v Speaker 1>a rain a private audition, and I came and I

1:00:01.000 --> 1:00:03.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of skipped you're a ringer? Did they find? They

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:05.960
<v Speaker 1>said you were hey Monday. Yeah. They were like, we

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:07.840
<v Speaker 1>heard you left the band. When you come audition? They

1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:10.360
<v Speaker 1>asked me the year before. I said no, and they

1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:12.280
<v Speaker 1>asked me again, and I was like, okay, that's time.

1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Here's torn snow Midwick used to lie. This conversation all

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<v Speaker 1>three immediately took a minute. Well, it was tough because

1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:25.479
<v Speaker 1>you started falling back in your chair, like you didn't

1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:27.520
<v Speaker 1>want to hear that is making you comfortable. I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear the nerves in my voice. And of course you're

1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, how old were you when you did this?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty two? Okay, you're twenty two and you're on NBC. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's listen again, snow Midwick, you used to lie this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's that family. Oh jeez, you're gonna make me cry now.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was my mom, my sister, my friend who

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<v Speaker 1>passed two years ago, who I just got this tattoo for.

1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw, I saw your Instagram post you getting it

1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.680
<v Speaker 1>done yet? Yeah? He was one of my best friends, um,

1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:11.040
<v Speaker 1>my old friend, my one of my oldest friends, Ali

1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:14.040
<v Speaker 1>who I've known since I was in preschool, and Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>my ex. And it was like, I mean it was crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I I walked into the room after the audition

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just looking at them like okay, somebody

1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:26.960
<v Speaker 1>pinched me? Is this for real? Like did all four

1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:29.640
<v Speaker 1>just turn around? Like because I was scared, I left

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<v Speaker 1>the band and I was like, what am I doing?

1:01:31.320 --> 1:01:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I could this is comfortable, I could keep doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we just got out of our record deal,

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<v Speaker 1>so we felt kind of free, like we could go

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere if we wanted. But I knew deep down it

1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was probably not going to happen for us, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I left. But like that was the validation, Like crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think when you hear yourself singing there?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. You know, I've heard just sing

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of times. I wouldn't think that was you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't think it's that good. No, it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>because here's what happens when you get nervous. Your throat

1:01:59.400 --> 1:02:03.240
<v Speaker 1>closes up really and I like my main problem on

1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that the whole show. I was at the very bottom

1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of my potential the whole time because of nerves, and

1:02:10.160 --> 1:02:12.760
<v Speaker 1>any time I get nervous, my low notes go away.

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<v Speaker 1>So like the finale for Crys, like, so you won

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<v Speaker 1>the show nervous, yes, man, because you're a really good

1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:23.640
<v Speaker 1>singer and I've been able to watch you sing in person,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're fantastic. You're one of the upper echelon vocalists.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hear this and I go, huh. They all

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<v Speaker 1>turned aroun a little too quick for my For me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, they around that, they run that like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I thought. I was like, it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty fast. I was like, really, okay, conversation,

1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that's quick. It's fast there. They I think they just

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<v Speaker 1>heard something. Maybe you knew good, don't know, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're really fantastic. That's not a slight in anyway. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I literally don't. I tell me bold it's okay. I

1:03:01.640 --> 1:03:03.680
<v Speaker 1>tell people all the time like that, that's not a

1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:05.960
<v Speaker 1>good representation of my voice at all because I was

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<v Speaker 1>so nervous. Now, here's some of your hip hop albums.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you apologized well for the age? Here's some from

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Monday, Here's Candles. You ever listen to that? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Don't. I can't because because I'm like embarrassed

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<v Speaker 1>by my writing. You always should be. Okay, here's what

1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you about some of my right in

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<v Speaker 1>my book. If you're you don't have to even be creating.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're making and that's progress. If you're making progress,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in a creative film, but you don't have been

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<v Speaker 1>a creative film to make progress or something. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are working and you're making progress or something and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not able to look back at be embarrassed something you

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<v Speaker 1>did a year ago, two years ago, then you are

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<v Speaker 1>not moving in the right direction. You should always look

1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:02.680
<v Speaker 1>back and go because the more you're embarrassed of it,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you've grown. Yeah. Oh totally. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a song called Candles. Blow the Candles Out

1:04:09.600 --> 1:04:12.120
<v Speaker 1>looks like a solo Tonight I'm beginning to see the light.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the chorus, I mean to night, sorry to

1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:27.920
<v Speaker 1>night to night, yeah, No, I don't give us some

1:04:28.080 --> 1:04:34.760
<v Speaker 1>hard time. This has called homecoming you everything together for

1:04:34.840 --> 1:04:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like hey Monday reunion show. You know, it's crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>ran into the guitarist Mike Genteel for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in probably eight years the other night at a basement

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<v Speaker 1>East and we were talking about how next October is

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<v Speaker 1>the ten year anniversary of that album. What's everybody doing.

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<v Speaker 1>He is doing sinks for um, like he's building singing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's yes, he's building sinks. No. Um. I literally thought

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<v Speaker 1>what she meant, dude. I thought somewhere I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>good for him. It's like when you when your music

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<v Speaker 1>gets placed in like a commercial or something. He's killing

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<v Speaker 1>it with that. He's got his songs and he just

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<v Speaker 1>had a song in the Cars movie and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing great. He's really good. He's showed me some

1:05:14.120 --> 1:05:16.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff he's producing. But he's awesome. And then Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>other guitarist is doing kind of the same thing in

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<v Speaker 1>West Palm Beach. He's he's doing like producing some rappers

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<v Speaker 1>in West Palm and stuff. Um the drummer is I

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<v Speaker 1>think he has some sort of He and I don't

1:05:29.120 --> 1:05:32.080
<v Speaker 1>keep in touch very much. Elliott has some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like design company. I could be so wrong on this,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's going to kill me. But yeah, they're everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. Reason the man broke up A yeah they

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<v Speaker 1>were at first. Yeah, and we had a tour to

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<v Speaker 1>do after I like try to make it so they

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<v Speaker 1>had time to find other gigs, um, and we had.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Brazil together and it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>torturous trip because I knew they all hated me. And

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, did you already tell them you're breaks?

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<v Speaker 1>So you told them did this show is to give

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<v Speaker 1>them time to find other works? Yes? And you stopped

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<v Speaker 1>the band because you weren't. We we left the label,

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<v Speaker 1>We left Colombia because they didn't care anymore, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is a bad situation. We got out.

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<v Speaker 1>We usually had a tour booked every year, like a

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<v Speaker 1>year in advance. We had nothing booked. I was paying

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<v Speaker 1>everything out of pocket at that point. I hadn't had

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<v Speaker 1>the success I have now. So you're running the band.

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<v Speaker 1>I was running. Yeah, I was running everything, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I can't literally can't afford it. A and B.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be you know, like twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and still in this band and still struggling, like I

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<v Speaker 1>am gonna make it with or without this band. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I I believe in myself, I would love to do

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<v Speaker 1>it with you guys, but this doesn't feel right and

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<v Speaker 1>like I gotta go, and so I mean, I was

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<v Speaker 1>brutally honest with them. I was like this, this just

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<v Speaker 1>isn't working. And it took a while for everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get over it. And there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ship talking when I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>Voice and stuff, because I didn't leave the band for

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<v Speaker 1>the Voice. Even I left the band just to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the band. I was like, this isn't it and moved

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<v Speaker 1>to l A, tried to do a solo thing, did

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<v Speaker 1>an AP with my friend Gorvy. I just mentioned who

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<v Speaker 1>passed and he you know, we I put it out

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<v Speaker 1>so I could like I got it out right before

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<v Speaker 1>the Voice, because I was like, oh my god, they

1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:12.680
<v Speaker 1>locked you up. This is gonna be great. I can

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<v Speaker 1>sell it. And it literally it like paid off so much,

1:07:15.440 --> 1:07:18.600
<v Speaker 1>so many debts, so much like my rent. So really

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<v Speaker 1>so you got out in time and then people bought

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<v Speaker 1>it while you were on the Voice. That's because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a friend who went on the voice. See the

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<v Speaker 1>more recently and she had music Natalie, Yeah, and she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't put it out. Yeah, and then it was like

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to wait another x amount of days

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<v Speaker 1>after you're off to put it out and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really and well with her, she had recorded it before.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it was her music, but they don't let

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<v Speaker 1>you put it out in your window from when they

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<v Speaker 1>come to you because she was one of the special

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<v Speaker 1>like they recruited her, right and she did it. She's

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, and she didn't she can't put anything out

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<v Speaker 1>for like three months prior because she's locked in a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room and then she can't put it out during

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<v Speaker 1>the show. And she was just able to put it

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<v Speaker 1>like last week or you know, whenever she had wine

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<v Speaker 1>or whiskey, right, and so it's kind of it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of was like, well, if people see me

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<v Speaker 1>and they go and they look me up, there's one

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<v Speaker 1>day and that's gonna be Columbia, So might as well

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<v Speaker 1>try and get something out that's mine. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was nice. Here's one of those old songs that

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<v Speaker 1>you did. Here you go mid conversation every time she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you found that. Come was a little to the

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<v Speaker 1>days and death, but drive away and take his love.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just feel like my voice has changed so much. Puberty,

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<v Speaker 1>man change. I don't know if you watch Brady Bunch

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<v Speaker 1>or if you ever did watch The Brady Man when

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<v Speaker 1>he was going, who was going? Peter? Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>poor guy. Now listen, I wasn't alive when The Brady

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch is on, but I watched three runs. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just making sure that well it wasn't black and white

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<v Speaker 1>still in all right, listen, good talk. We've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>for how long? I all right? Pretty pretty good? Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>he felt like I'm a treat to talk to. I

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing to say when the mics offt like good,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's come on, Hey, everybody walk on having a good time,

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<v Speaker 1>having fun. What we've learned is it's a new start. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and people can be listening to this next year because

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<v Speaker 1>he sings to live forever. But um, if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this now, which is before February, that's probably when

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<v Speaker 1>new music is coming out, yeah, most likely, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing it independently still unless somebody comes and

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<v Speaker 1>gobbles you up. Yeah, which yeah, I don't really care.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I want to I want to do it

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<v Speaker 1>independently because I've never gotten. I haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 1>in so long. It feels good. And you will be

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<v Speaker 1>reading bare bones I will simultaneously during all of this. Yes, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you read that like a week Are you fast reader? Nope?

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<v Speaker 1>You reading like a weekend of the day. I like

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<v Speaker 1>get distracted by everything and anything, my dog, like the

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<v Speaker 1>car driving by. It's the problem. Where are you standing?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Um at Cassidy Pope, let me ask you

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<v Speaker 1>a question. This is this is a good question. You

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<v Speaker 1>put out a picture like two months ago maybe, and

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<v Speaker 1>you were like in a crop top and you're standing

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<v Speaker 1>next to old ford. Yeah okay, and we were was

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<v Speaker 1>that a hate to the ex boyfriend? Like I'm in shape?

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<v Speaker 1>And put this picture out for the world because no

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<v Speaker 1>new music came and we were debating about this, like no,

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<v Speaker 1>why were you next to that old truck? So that's

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<v Speaker 1>like that is the photo shoot for this new music

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of wanted it to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>nod like, hey, there's a new era coming. Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say that, You just put the picture out. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>next time you gotta say new Eric coming or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But because we're all like you're trying to stick it

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<v Speaker 1>to her X. That's what most of America felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't want that. I mean no, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>I just I wanted people to see, like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>cut my hair and got a different vibe going. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that when the music would be coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>so like the word I hate when like I've teased

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<v Speaker 1>music in the past and then it never came and

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<v Speaker 1>fans were like, whatever happened to that? So I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to like mislead. So I just but I like

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<v Speaker 1>the picture. That picture. Yeah, we talked about it would

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<v Speaker 1>not stopped talking about. Yeah, that was so cool. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because we were like, what is she trying to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Interpret this picture? Hey, everybody can read it the way

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<v Speaker 1>they want to read It's right, all right, that's good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you at Cassidy Pope on all the stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah is it? That's it? And I've just been handed this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll check this out. This is uh, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you, uh, we'll see you soon, probably on

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<v Speaker 1>the big radio show soon. But okay, well that's an

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<v Speaker 1>episode ninety four and thanks to our sponsor oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>sleep now right, thank you very much. And now we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time.