1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Years in 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: the Bonus with Doug gottlie. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus, Sarah Fox. Sports really 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: hurt real, lots of things to talk about. Got some football, 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Joel Hurtson's big contract. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: What's it mean? 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: We'll break it down for you. Got what the Fox says? 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Two different ways of looking at our lead topic of 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: the day, which is Draymond Green. One from Colin Coward, 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: one from Dan Patrick. He'll hear that upcoming. So by now, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're a ware. Draymond Green was ejected from 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: Game two of the Western Conference Playoffs, the game against 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings. They lost the game two games around, down 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: two games and none. Darren Fox and Malik Monk others 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: played well, and the Warriors just not the same at 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: times without Draymond, and Jordan Poole continues to struggle. I'll 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: give you one basketball sort of insight and then i'll 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: talk We'll talk about the Draymond thing. The first thing 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: that's really important is when you don't have Draymond, everyone 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: looks at well, he can't shoot, he doesn't score. You know, 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: he's not maybe as good as defender as he used 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: to be. But we looked too much at Draymond instead 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: of looking intotality or really at Steph. And there was 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: a discussion last week that was really triggered by Richard 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: Jefferson where he's like, look, Steph Curry's you know, he's 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: not really a point guard and he plays better without 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: the ball. And that's true, but the construct of this team, Like, 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: here's you want some basketball insight. Okay, what's the difference 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: between having Kevon Looney, Andrew Wiggins, Klay Thompson and if 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: you don't have Draymond Green, you got you know, Gary 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: Payton GP two or Jordan Poole on the team, right 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: as opposed to previous Warriors teams, Like go back in 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: and remember their roster and their their lineups years ago, 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: right where you know when when when they won championships? 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: What do they all look like? Like, what's what's the 36 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: difference in this Golden State Warriors and previous Golden State Warriors, 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: like the really really good teams that won championships, not 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: just the Kevin Durant ones. But if you want to 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: go Kevin Durant that's fine as well, Right, But remember 40 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: one year they had Andrew Bogut, right, they had Andrew Bogan, 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, andre Iguidala. You know, they've had Sean Livingston. 42 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: They went through and I don't think they win one. 43 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: They lost the year of Quinn Cook, but that was 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: Toronto Raptors. Even go back to the seventy three. The 45 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: difference is that when Steph is at his best is 46 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: when on his on their roster, on their roster and 47 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: on the floor with him is other are other guys 48 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: that can handle the basketball. The difference in Andrea Godala 49 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: is not as talented a score when he was on 50 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: the Warriors as Andrew Wiggins is. But Andrea Gudala can 51 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: handle the basketball, can play like a point can play 52 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: center Wiggins cannot. Sean Livingston was a point guard in 53 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: high school, a point guard with the Clippers, and though 54 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: a mid range scorer, he was essentially a point guard 55 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: with the Warriors. Draymond Green is like a point center. 56 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: Go back and look it. Outside of Klay Thompson, Andrew 57 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: Bogut was never a point guard, but a great elite 58 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: passer as a big guy. And so what happens is 59 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: even with Draymond Green, Steph has to have the ball 60 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: in his hands more often, and without Draymond Green, there's 61 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: really nobody else who can who's comfortable handling the basketball, 62 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: and so he becomes a pick and roll player, becomes 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: easier to guard. You didn't you didn't see that one coming. 64 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: Huh? 65 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk to Draymond Green. Here's she cal 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: O'Neill and Draymond last. 67 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 5: Night, I did the same thing. I really would don't 68 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 5: be grabbing me, because what am I gonna do? Like 69 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: if I stayed there and just try to run forward, 70 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 5: I'll fall. You got to get them up off here, 71 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 5: and if you're up off of you and you in 72 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: the way, you might get stumped. Though was a dirty 73 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 5: play of course, or was a dirty place? 74 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 6: Didn't just say that? Don't you just grabbed me, This 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 6: won't happen. So if you never grabbed them, that would't happen. 76 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 6: I would agree with that, thank you. I do agree 77 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 6: with that. 78 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: But he gets another bad player said we don't grab. 79 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 7: Me, but but I but if I grab you and 80 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 7: you can hit me with a. 81 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: Chair, it's like it's successive that he shouldn't like get. 82 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 6: Them all okay? 83 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 5: Well, but it was a song would you like to 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 5: get on the floor and show me the options when 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 5: when somebody grabbed you, move away, move just walked on 86 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 5: the floor and grab Michael. No, no, got a bad 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 5: this is this is not a ton. 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: I love that show. Okay, here, here's here's the thing. 89 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: Shack's completely right. What what exactly are you supposed to do? 90 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: What exactly are you supposed to do? Anybody know? I 91 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: sure as I don't know. So it's one of those 92 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't make it right, but it it does make 93 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: it like, we again, what what is he supposed to 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: do in this situation? But here's the thing that no 95 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: one has said outside of me. My freshman year at 96 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, my first thing I was I was when 97 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: I signed there, I was told I'd be the starting 98 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: point guard right away. You know when what coaches say 99 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: is we'll put the ball in your hands. 100 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 6: Okay, cool. 101 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: It was a big reason for why I went there. 102 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: And we go through practice and I wasn't better than 103 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: that more white, he was better than me us. I 104 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: felt like I was a gamer. I would get a shot, 105 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: but I could couldn't really crack the code. Was never 106 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: on the first team. We played the first exhibition game, 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: and I played like ten minutes, twelve minutes, and I 108 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: just remember this defeated feeling like, God, I'm never gonna play. 109 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: I was supposed to start. I'm not any good, and 110 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: the coach was like, dude, you're fine. You're just like 111 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: trust me to organically take care of itself. So the 112 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: second game, I was supposed to play more, but I 113 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 2: got four fouls. I got two early in the first 114 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: half when I came in, and then I got to 115 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: cut another and so I think I played like twelve 116 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: minutes despite the fact I was supposed to play twenty 117 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: twenty five minutes in the second exhibition game. And it 118 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: was at that time that my dad pulled me aside 119 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: and he gave me some of the best advice I 120 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: can ever give somebody as a basketball player. Not all 121 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: coaches have the auto bench with two fouls, but many do. 122 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 2: I would not, but John McLeod did. And the point 123 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: is this, my dad pulled me aside. He was like, hey, 124 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: he sat you because he got two in the first half. Yes, well, 125 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: you know, if you don't get your set first, you 126 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: can't get your second. Excuse me. He's like, if you 127 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: don't get your first, you can't get games to say, 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: don't foiule in the first half. Just don't get your first. 129 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: Somebody gets somebody beats you, all right, you let him go. 130 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: You live to play, live to fight another day. Well, 131 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: the same is true with Draymond Green. You know, if 132 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: he doesn't get the first technical, none of this happens. 133 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: And I granted he can't go back twenty years or 134 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: fifteen years or ten years and fix his own personal 135 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: history with officials and his own reputation. I understand that, 136 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: but you can absolutely control not getting your first. Just 137 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: stay out of the harm's way, stay out of all 138 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: this nonsense. You get that way in the fourth quarter. 139 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: You have a limited number of fouls, no technical fowls. 140 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: You can just go play and be yourself. That's the 141 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: advice I'd give him. That's the the absolute stage wisdom 142 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: of the late great Bob Gottlieb. Here's Warriors head coach 143 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: Steve Kerr in his postgame press conference. 144 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 8: I didn't see a play live, and then I didn't 145 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 8: see the replay. 146 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 6: My as Zach Zarba, what happened? 147 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 8: He told me, And I was busy with, you know, 148 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 8: getting the team ready. A couple one of the coaches 149 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 8: told me he might get ejected, and so I was 150 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 8: trying to, you know, prepare for what was next. 151 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: Okay, So he's like, I didn't see it, and I 152 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 2: honestly thought it was a play on. Like Sabonis falls down, 153 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: looked like he was trying to pull Clay down. Didn't work. 154 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: Then he grabs onto Draymond's foot and Draymond tries to 155 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: shake his foot free, like all of it was just 156 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: a comedy of airs play on. Here's Draymond on his 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: postgame press conference. 158 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 9: What was the explanation that they give I know they 159 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 9: gave him a technical then obviously you. 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 6: The explanation was I stump too hard? 161 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: You said two times you've been held with Sabonis. 162 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 6: Both times it. 163 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 7: Was Monk last year here right on the baseline under 164 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 7: the rim. 165 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 6: So either you're going to stop it. 166 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 7: John Goebel was looking at Monk hold my leg the 167 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 7: last game and it just let it go. And Zach 168 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 7: clearly was watching my leg get held this game and 169 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 7: let it go. 170 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 6: So I guess ain'kle grabbing is okay? 171 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like I thought it was. I understand 172 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: what it's like to have your leg leg grabbed and 173 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know about the second game in 174 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: a row, but the him and Sabona's like, just put 175 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: him in an octagon. Let him have at it, because 176 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: they're otherwise they're just flopping around there. Here's Mike Brown, 177 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: head coach of the Sacramento Kings, in his postgame press coverage. 178 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 10: It's kind of marred by this situation when Draymond. Have 179 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 10: you seen a player stomp on another player like that 180 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 10: and then again go and got the crowd, stand up 181 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 10: on the scores table or the bench area and do 182 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 10: what he did like tonight, and I know you know 183 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 10: him personally. Just what are your thoughts on that entire scene. 184 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 11: I didn't see what he did afterwards, but for sure, 185 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 11: so you know, it's a flagrant two for sure, and 186 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 11: it'd be interesting to see what the NBA does after 187 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 11: they review it. 188 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 10: Just what are your thoughts on that entire scene. 189 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 11: I didn't see what he did afterwards. 190 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: But okay, so you know the whole theatric stuff is 191 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,239 Speaker 2: actually the part that makes Draymond look like a clown. 192 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: The it's a flagrant too, and what should the league do? 193 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: Means he thinks that should be suspended, which I think 194 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: is would be ridiculously bad, like what are we doing here? 195 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: And you know, Mike Brown, how many questions were asked 196 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: in that one question that you got that that was 197 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: a bunch. But Mike Brown clearly like, yeah, I know him, 198 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean I want to win this series. 199 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: So let's get Draymond suspended, which feels like the play 200 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: all along feels like to play all along from the 201 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: bonis like, how can we get him out of the series? 202 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: Be shorre to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 203 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 204 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 205 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: Let's find out what the Fox says and now say 206 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: every day at this time and the Doug Gottlieb Show 207 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: in the bonus. In the bonus, we play for you 208 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: a portion of a previous show. We wanted to do 209 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: the juxtaposition of two of the all time greats in 210 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: terms of the sports radio yaking, which we have only 211 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: here for you on Fox Sports Radio, Dan Patrick and 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd talking about Draymond Green. Let's talk start with 213 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick. 214 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 12: We always acknowledge Draymond Green's basketball IQ. Right, we talk 215 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 12: about him being a smart player. But this is a 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 12: dumb play because he was selfish and then after how 217 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 12: he reacted, it was about him. And I think if 218 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 12: he could have said it in the moment, Hey, listen 219 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 12: to my podcast, I'm going to reaccord that after the show, 220 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 12: he probably would have tried to do that. It's we 221 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 12: give him a we give him credit all the time. 222 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 12: Oh man, he's a smart basketball player. He does some 223 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 12: stupid things. This is a guy who started the season 224 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 12: punching a teammate, so like, you can't be surprised that 225 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 12: he would do this to the opposition. He punched his 226 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 12: own teammate and here we are, and he didn't fire 227 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 12: up his team. 228 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: And it was a close game. 229 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 12: So the problem I have with it is i'd say twofold, 230 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 12: but it's probably more than that. It's a close game. 231 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 12: It's four points, so bonus is gonna get a technical 232 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 12: Steph will make the free throw. You got the ball, 233 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 12: you're down three, seven minutes to go, You've a terrible 234 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 12: road team, You're in this you have a chance to 235 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 12: take this game, steal this game. And Draymond Green got 236 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 12: selfish and made it about him, and then the theatrics. 237 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: After like, where's Steve Kerr? 238 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 12: Steve grab him to tell let's go to the locker room. 239 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: You're not helping the situation. 240 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot to it. Let me first. Let 241 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: me then hear Colin Cowherd's take on the exact same discussion. 242 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 13: This is what eighties basketball was. Draymond's the last vestige 243 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 13: of it, and you're complaining about it. I love him. 244 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 13: I think he's great. Yes, he works for my podcast company. 245 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 13: But the reason I got him is because he's raw 246 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 13: and authentic. By the way, Charles Barkley was an enforcer, 247 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 13: and everybody loves Charles Barkley. 248 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: By the way. 249 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 13: I saw a story this week. You know who Lebron 250 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 13: wants on the team, and Anthony Davis they want Draymond Green. 251 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: Say what you will. 252 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 13: When you're twenty five years old, you don't understand every 253 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 13: great team. In my childhood, the Sixers had tough guys, 254 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 13: the Sonics, the Blazers, the Bulls, the Lakers, the Pistons. 255 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: You had to have one. 256 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 13: It's like in hockey, somebody has to protect Gretzky, somebody 257 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 13: has to protect the star. In the NBA, you've got 258 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 13: to have an annoyance, a guy that's willing to give 259 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 13: his body up. Sabonis is a tough guy. I covered 260 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 13: his dad. He knows what the game's all about. You 261 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 13: complain about the physicality of basketball. How we're doing romanticizing 262 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 13: thirty for thirties on a Knicks team that couldn't shoot. 263 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 13: We're not doing it because they were pretty. We're doing 264 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 13: it because they were tough. No problem at all. Thought 265 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 13: the ejection was silly. Uh and I cannot believe they'd 266 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 13: throw him out of the series. That would be reckless 267 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 13: by the commissioner. 268 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: Not the ejection was silly. I didn't think it was 269 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: the case of Draymond being Draymond. There were the first 270 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: technical foul was some of the old Draymond thrutch er. 271 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: But theatrics and between him and Sibonis, it's a flop fest. 272 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: And I agree with with with Colin in that every 273 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: great team has had a guy sort of like this. 274 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: Here's the issue, though, is that that that act works, 275 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: but she gotta be able to play right like Dennis 276 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Rodman was that guy now when he was the worm 277 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: with the Detroit Pistons teams, he was the best defender 278 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: in the league when he went to the Spurs and 279 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: with the Bulls, Uh, he was a very good defender 280 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: but an incredible rebounder, and they just kind of dealt 281 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: with it. But most of his theatrics they weren't directed 282 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: at the refs as much as sometimes his own team 283 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: or sometimes the other team. The the issue with Draymond 284 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: is like one, and we can get to the Lakers 285 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: thing like he not worth a max contract. Those guys 286 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: are invaluable, but they're actually there's a set value to 287 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: them and when you're trying when you need I don't 288 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: think that's what the Lakers need. That's not what the 289 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: Lakers don't need. Toughness and you know, basketball like Q, 290 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: and basketball like Q, by the way, is don't get 291 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: your ass fucking thrown out of a game that we're 292 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: trying to win. Here, you get thrown out of a 293 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: Wednesday night when you're playing in Charlotte and nobody gives 294 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: a shit, right not game two when you've never been 295 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: down two games to none since the Warriors have been 296 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: making their run. So there is a lack of like 297 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: just there are times in which he loses his mind. 298 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: But then the WWE thing like that is such fucking 299 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: clown show. 300 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 301 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: The clown show ends up making it feel like it's 302 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: a bigger deal than it is. The reality is Sabona's 303 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: fell down. He probably grabbed his foot because he didn't 304 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: want to get stepped on, which of course led him 305 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: to get stepped on. Okay, it happens, We move on. 306 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have called a fucking thing. What are you 307 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: calling a foul for? Because it all started when Siboni's 308 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: It felt like he was trying to bring down Klay Thompson, 309 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: you know, when when he was getting boxed out. Maybe 310 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: he just lost his balance. Okay, I'll give him the 311 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. Then he grabs on to Draymond 312 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: Green's foot, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. 313 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: He even want to get stepped on, and I'll give 314 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: Draymond the benefit of the doubt that he's just trying 315 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: to get his foot free. All fine, play basketball. This 316 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: whole thing is beyond ridiculous and stupid. And I understand though, 317 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: where Dan Patrick's coming from, and that even in this situation, 318 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: if I disagree that he's being selfish, the constant Draymond 319 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: Green bombardment and the constant thought that he's part of 320 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: this discussion and I'm just wondering what he's gonna do next. Well, 321 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: that's good for entertainment value. It does not appear to 322 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: be good right now for the Golden State Warriors. All 323 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: that shit. When it's working, when you guys are humming 324 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: along and you're beating people, fine, Otherwise, go out and 325 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: win games. Don't say shit. This is LeVar Arrington talking 326 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: about Jalen Hurts new contract. 327 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this first and foremost, like, let me 328 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: speak from a very very commonplace. Anyone who works themselves 329 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: into a situation where they can make ten figures upon 330 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: signing a piece of paper you've won. Secondly, the interesting 331 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: thing is is that for it to be a five 332 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 4: year deal, this is probably a strong possibility. If he's 333 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 4: still playing well, and if his trajectory continues to be 334 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 4: on the same path that it's on right now, that 335 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 4: contract gets redone before you even get to five years. 336 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: I don't even think they complete the contract. 337 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 6: No, you're right. 338 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: So with that being said, we can talk about all 339 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: the numbers and the fluff that's connected to the contract. 340 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: But if he's playing well, then he's playing with house 341 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: money because he's going to play himself into another contract. 342 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 4: They're going to restructure him. What they'll come to him 343 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: in like year three, year four and restructure him because 344 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: they're not even going to want him to get to 345 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: the end of the deal, and they'll be like, well, hell, 346 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: we're going to give him a whole lot more money 347 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: now rather than wait for him to get to the 348 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: end of the deal and could possibly leverage free agency, 349 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 4: or we might have to put the franchise tag on 350 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: him and do all that stuff. We're going to get 351 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: the deal done with him now. 352 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: Okay. So there's a lot to unpack there, right, but 353 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: the basics of it are this, he didn't get the 354 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: five years fully guaranteed. He got a ton of money. 355 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: It appears that the structure is going to be that 356 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: there's going to be a huge, huge cap hit in 357 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: the final year's, final two years of the contract, which 358 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: many people believe that the cap is going to so expand. 359 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: It may not be as punitive, but that will lead 360 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: the Eagles if he plays well, to ultimately redoing the deal. 361 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: If he ain't good, they're screwed. So this is giving you, 362 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: giving you cap flexibility early, giving you, you know what, 363 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: your your fixed costs are in your quarterback, and given 364 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: you a quarterback for the next four or five years 365 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: without any question Philadelphia. But boy, he better continue his 366 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: upward trajectory. I said yesterday in the radio show. He's 367 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: earned it. This is how it usually works. Do I 368 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: think it's an overpay, it's a massive overpay, Like he's 369 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: a good quarterback, He's not that good. But this is 370 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: how it's almost always worked in the sport. And it 371 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: feels like Philadelphia is paying as much for his leadership 372 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: as he is his actual pay, which I'm fine with. Like, 373 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: if this this is how they feel about the guy 374 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: they know, they drafted, they groomed great. Okay, many people, 375 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: myself included, we are like, I don't know if he'll 376 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: be the starting quarterback in twenty in twenty three after 377 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: watching him play in twenty one, and of course he 378 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: was an MVP candidate this past year, and they go 379 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: to Super Bow and he plays well. So do I 380 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: think he's a top five quarterback? 381 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 10: No? 382 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: Do I think that the contract isn't overpay? Sure? Do 383 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: I think that it matters? Is not my money? 384 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 6: I do not. 385 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: It's interesting that Philadelphia's putting themselves in this similar position 386 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: they put themselves in before. But they know him, they 387 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: love him, the players seem to like playing with him, 388 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: and if they can keep some form of the roster 389 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: that they've kept, there's no reason to believe that they 390 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: won't have the stability with their team they have with 391 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: their quarterback as long as he stays healthy and continues 392 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: to improve. That's what the Fox said, I say. 393 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 394 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 395 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 396 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: Let's find out who's annoying. 397 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: And now it's your annoying. 398 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: What do you got there, Jase two? 399 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 9: Doug, remember a few weeks back when Kendrick Perkins had 400 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 9: that back and forth with JJ Reddick and I know 401 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 9: you got involved as well. And there's this big like 402 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 9: thing about how the MVP race has become toxic, and 403 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 9: then Joel Embiid actually kind of weighed in on that 404 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 9: and said, yeah, I don't like the conversation around this. 405 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 9: It's unfortunate, this is this has become a negative thing. 406 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 9: Doc Rivers said the same thing. Well, last night, after 407 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 9: the Sixers win, Joel Embiid said this about his statistics. 408 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 14: I won three blocks. Only three blocks, me, Papa, we 409 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 14: need a Memphis goalkeeper, Denver Memphis past. I thought I 410 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 14: have more, but you know, that's that's a level that 411 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 14: I gotta get. I gotta get to, and I'm. 412 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 6: Going to do it every day now. 413 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 9: Just for context there, the Defensive Player of the Year 414 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 9: was announced yesterday, Jared Jackson of Memphis, and he's looking 415 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 9: at his stats and he's like, three blocks, that's all 416 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 9: I got. He's like, I should get the scorekeeper at Memphis, 417 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 9: which was just a shot I think at the defensive 418 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 9: Player of the Year. And you could say it's kind 419 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 9: of you know, it's joking around and Joel. We like 420 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 9: Joel being candid, but you can't have it both ways, 421 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 9: you know, we can't say that the MVP talk has 422 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 9: become negative and I don't really want to any part 423 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 9: of that. And then once somebody else gets the defensive 424 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 9: Player of the year, just not be gracious. He's just 425 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 9: kind of taking shots at the kid. Something annoys me about. 426 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: This, Doug, I hear you, but I would also tell 427 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: you that for example, for example, I played at UNLV 428 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: my senior year and they had another point guard named 429 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: Mark Dickle, who was was a close competitor in terms 430 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: of the assist race the year before and that year 431 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: as well at point guard to lead the country. And 432 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: the first year I had fifteen, we played him back 433 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: to back years in Vegas, which never happens, like usually 434 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: you play a team home and home whatever. I'll never 435 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: forget I walking off the court after the second time 436 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: we played him and I was like, coach, how are 437 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: we going to play Vegas back to back years. I'm 438 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: gonna play Vegas back to back years. And he's like 439 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: that Billy Beino. He couldn't organize a fist fight anyway, 440 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: So you don't usually play back to back years on 441 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: somebody else's home floor, but we did. Anyway. We got 442 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: done the game the second year and we look at 443 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: the box score and I had five assists and we 444 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: lit them up pretty good. And I don't know how 445 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: when you play sports, which you do, but when I 446 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: play sports, I know my stats pretty well to a 447 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: tee without ever having to look at a statue. And 448 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: it's interesting. It's one of those things my coach my 449 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: senior year got onto me about looking at the stat 450 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: sheet at halftime. He's like, you know, you know, all 451 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: you care about is your assistants, Like coach, I know 452 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: how many assists I have. I'm looking at it for 453 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: everything else, you know, to find out everything else that's 454 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: going on in the game statistically. But the point is, 455 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: I know when I have five assists. I know when 456 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: I have fifteen, and I had by my account, I 457 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: had thirteen or fourteen and one was We're kind of fusched. Anyway, 458 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: we actually went great of the film out. I had 459 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: it down at fourteen. One of the other guys I 460 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: was watching with me had it at thirteen. We petitioned 461 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: the NCAA. I think I ended up getting eleven, getting 462 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: credit for eleven. But what's interesting is if I had 463 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: gotten fourteen, I would have finished tied with Greg Anthony 464 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: for sixth all time the assist list. So there are 465 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: scorekeepers that can help you. I feel for Joel Embiid. 466 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: If it is Memphis guys blowing it up, I think 467 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: it's more directed at the Memphis scorekeeper than it is 468 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 2: at Jaron Jackson. 469 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 9: You know, Jalen hurts. He got this big contract yesterday. 470 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 9: So over the last twenty four hours there's just beend this. 471 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 9: You know sports talk radio debate shows, who would you 472 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 9: take right now? Jalen Hurts Are Lamar Jackson right? Two guys. 473 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 9: One's up per a contract. One just got the contract. 474 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 9: And the majority of people, the majority of the people 475 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 9: that do this for a living, are saying they'll take 476 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts. And this is what is annoying about this 477 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 9: because a year ago or just after the twenty twenty 478 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 9: one season, the same people that would take Jalen Hurts 479 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 9: over Lamar Jackson were saying that Jalen Hurts is simply 480 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 9: a placeholder for Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, or whoever the 481 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 9: Eagles could draft. Jalen Hurts was a short term replace 482 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 9: until the next big thing a year ago, and now 483 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 9: you're taking him over over Lamar Jackson. Now you can 484 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 9: change your mind, and you can have a different opinion 485 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 9: given new information. I get that, but the FCC should 486 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 9: mandate that before you talk with conviction or on authority 487 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 9: about something, you should have to say before I say anything. 488 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 9: Last year, I thought he was a placeholder. I thought 489 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 9: he was just there for the short term, and now 490 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 9: my opinion has completely changed on him. There should be 491 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 9: a disclaimer. You just can't talk with conviction about something 492 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 9: after having an opinion that was the exact opposite a 493 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 9: year ago. 494 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody does that. That was funny, And 495 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: I didn't say I did to know when I say 496 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't didn't know any but it does that, you know, 497 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm talking about other people anyway. I generally agree. I 498 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: also think though, that if we're going to do that, 499 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: we have to we have to give people the benefit 500 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: of that, the best of that. This was a widely 501 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: shared opinion at the time, right like the old co 502 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: the old takes exposed oftentimes, looks at today through the 503 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: lens of today, you know, and we can. I mean, 504 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: you looks at yesterday through a lens of today. Yesterday 505 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: is a different lens. Things change now. I'll even give you, 506 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: like my Steph Curry eval at the time, where I 507 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: thought he'd be a Jeff Horniseck type, the NBA is 508 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: different now than when he was drafted, and was different 509 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: than the NBA ten to fifteen years ago. It's evolved greatly. 510 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: The sport has evolved, not just the players themselves, but 511 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: to that I do agree. The no no I told 512 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 2: you all along when I was completely full of it. 513 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 9: I mean, if you want to take it to another step. 514 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 9: But this also shows you how full of shit draft 515 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 9: prognosticators are and analysts when they talk with conviction about 516 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 9: who the best quarterback in this draft is. No one 517 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 9: knows shit. Okay, I just looked back over the last 518 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 9: five years. These were the names of people that were 519 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 9: supposedly going to be first round good NFL quarterbacks right 520 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 9: to a tongue of Violoa, Jordan Love, Zach Wilson, the 521 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 9: late Dwayne Haskins. Each of those guys were taken in 522 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 9: the first round the last five years. Jalen Hurts was 523 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 9: a second round pick. I don't remember what the talk is. 524 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 9: At the time, I thought it was like, yeah, that's 525 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 9: kind of a nice pick for a backup quarterback or whatever. 526 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 9: But every time you hear someone this week or over 527 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 9: the next ten days talk with authority or conviction about 528 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 9: who the best quarterback is in this draft, they're full 529 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 9: of shit because nobody knows. 530 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: I agree with you on that one, no question about it. 531 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 9: Speaking of the draft, Scott Fitter, the GM of the Panthers, 532 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 9: they have the number one pick. He traded up to 533 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 9: get the number one pick. It's so funny to hear 534 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 9: these guys because the reporters have to ask the questions 535 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 9: and the executives kind of have to answer it, but 536 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 9: they give a bunch of non answers. Here's the latest 537 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 9: version of a non answer by an NFLGM when asked 538 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 9: about the draft. 539 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: We have our the last kind of group in today. 540 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: We have the coaches Wednesday and Thursday of this week, 541 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: and at that point we'll get together and kind of 542 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: make that decision. 543 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: But we've got some clarity through this process. 544 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 9: We've got some clarity through this process. Somehow has become 545 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 9: a headline. If you google a Fitterer and clarity on 546 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 9: Twitter right now, you'll find no less than ten outlets 547 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 9: claiming that this is news, as if there's some kind 548 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 9: of progress in knowing who the Panthers are taking, that 549 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 9: he's got some clarity. That vague language, right there is 550 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 9: something that the media has blobbed onto. The vague language 551 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 9: around the draft is annoying to me. Maybe there should 552 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 9: be a Maybe there should be like a gag order. 553 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 9: The NFL should be like, look, you can't ask questions 554 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 9: and you can't answer questions about the draft because everything 555 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 9: in between is just nonsensical. I don't tell me there's clarity. 556 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 9: I don't even know what the clarity means. I hear 557 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 9: it every week on The Bachelor. They want to gain clarity, 558 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 9: they're seeking clarity. No, no one knows what the hell 559 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 9: that means. 560 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: Oh, there's lots of uh. There's lots of words that 561 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: people use that they don't actually mean what they were. 562 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: They they're just overused, right. I want to be heard, 563 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: I want to be seen. I need great clarity, you know. 564 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: I had to find my balance. But yes, the clarity 565 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: that's been given, we know what he means. But the 566 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: vagueness of it is comical, comical. So that's what I 567 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: have to choose from Joel embiid Jalen Hurt supporters or 568 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: the vang language of the about the draft. Yes, I'll 569 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: do the vague language about the draft, just because there's 570 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: all different sorts of ways in which they talk around 571 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: actually talking about stuff, and it's it's kind of an art, 572 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: but it's a it's a paint by numbers art because 573 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: people are doing the same stuff that they've done for 574 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: a long time. So NFL draft guys that use vague 575 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: language to say nothing at all, let's get to our 576 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: pick of the day. 577 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: Okay, sir, the bet is to you, baby. It's time 578 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: for the pick of the day. 579 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: Pick of the day. Let's go to the NBA Playoffs 580 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: where we have three games. You got Hawks Celtics. Celtics 581 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: a ten point favorite in game two, Yes, a ten 582 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: point favorite in Game two. Two thirty one is the 583 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: over under Nicks Calves. The Calves are a six point 584 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: favorite in game two. Again, both these teams, Celtics and 585 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: Calves are at home, and the Sons are an eight 586 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: point favorite, eight point favorite to the Clippers at home. 587 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: I love the Suns on the money line. I really 588 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: really like the Sons of the money line. Eight points 589 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: doesn't feel right to me. It just feels way way 590 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: too big. So like the Clippers, like the Knicks, like 591 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: the Hawks. I think all three games are exceptionally close. 592 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: Put them in a box. You are welcome. There's our 593 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: pick or picks of the day. All right, that's it 594 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: for the end of the Bonus Podcast. Check out the daily 595 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: radio show tomorrow three to five Eastern twelve thro Pacific 596 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: on Doug Gottliebiss is the Doug gotlieb Show. In the 597 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: Bonus