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Speaker 2: All right? It is time for another edition, the Thanksgiving Edition.
Speaker 2: It's a tasty one. Sharper Square Chad Millman, co host
Speaker 2: of the Favorites. All odds provided by DraftKings. So I
Speaker 2: have this is a weird week. I always try to
Speaker 2: I'll bet individual games during Thanksgiving, but I think it's
Speaker 2: a tough week short rest. Like I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2: I like the Packers minus three against the Dolphins. I get.
Speaker 2: I think a better roster at home short rest. I
Speaker 2: think Miami and Tua's history in cold weather is I
Speaker 2: was joking today on the Herd. I'm like, there's a
Speaker 2: reason Norway's great in the Winter Olympics and not of
Speaker 2: the Summer Olympics. There are truths about weather. Every NCAA
Speaker 2: Beach Volleyball championship since it's been created has gone to
Speaker 2: USC or UCLA. If you go look at the history
Speaker 2: of dynasties in the NFL, starting with Lobardi, Green Bay, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: New England, Kansas City Steelers, Dallas where by the way,
Speaker 2: it snows during Christmas, and San Francisco, which Mark Twain
Speaker 2: once said the coldest winter I ever spent was a
Speaker 2: summer in San Francisco. There are no warm weather dynasties
Speaker 2: because eventually warm teams have to go north, and it's
Speaker 2: just the reality of somebody that grows up in the
Speaker 2: Keys does not want to live in Baltimore the winter.
Speaker 2: So I like the Packers. I think the weather thing
Speaker 2: between a Hawaiian quarterback who went to the SEC and Miami,
Speaker 2: I think it's real Sharper square.
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit square. However, you and I
Speaker 3: are aligned. The line was at three and a half.
Speaker 3: It's come down. The wise guys have been betting on
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. It kind of doesn't make much sense to
Speaker 3: me to as you mentioned, as a dog in this
Speaker 3: spot three and eleven.
Speaker 1: I think on the road against.
Speaker 3: Winning teams, So he does not have a good history here.
Speaker 3: And if you look at the three games he's been
Speaker 3: back beat the Rams on the road, everyone was excited
Speaker 3: about it. They're not a winning team. They were not
Speaker 3: a winning team when he beat them. Then he just
Speaker 3: beat up on the Patriots. The Patriots are statistically the
Speaker 3: worst team in the NFL. So you're getting to a
Speaker 3: looking really good, and I admit he looked great. And
Speaker 3: they've changed their scheme quite a bit. They're not throwing
Speaker 3: the ball downfield as much. They're throwing a lot more
Speaker 3: sort of in cuts that allow the players like Tyreek
Speaker 3: Hill to really get yards after the catch. But going
Speaker 3: to Green Bay, it's going to be twenty five degrees.
Speaker 3: It's going to be windy. Matt Lafleoor schematically one of
Speaker 3: the best coaches in the NFL. We've seen what he
Speaker 3: does when he doesn't have a quarterback. Just give the
Speaker 3: ball to Josh Jacobs against the Miami's defense. I like
Speaker 3: the opportunity for Matt Leflora, who I think is a
Speaker 3: better coach than Mike McDaniels. He's sixty plus percent against
Speaker 3: the spread as a favorite at home.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't get the move. I like
Speaker 1: the Packers. I'm not a buyer on Miami.
Speaker 2: So this line I didn't understand. There's a couple of
Speaker 2: lines this week I didn't quite get. So the Steelers
Speaker 2: are a much better football operation than Joe Burrow and
Speaker 2: the Bengals. And I've talked about this before. The Bengals
Speaker 2: moved off Joe Mixon and defensive players before they paid
Speaker 2: T Higgins and Jamar Chase. They're just a cheap franchise.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh awful loss is going to be feisty. Pittsburgh is
Speaker 2: a dog is great. Burrow's wonderful, but not when he's
Speaker 2: sitting on the bench watching a run game, dominate time
Speaker 2: of possession. I like the Steelers as a dog plus three,
Speaker 2: it's a much better team, sharper square.
Speaker 3: Yet of course it's the sharp play. It makes no
Speaker 3: sense that the number is even close to three.
Speaker 2: I don't tell it.
Speaker 1: It's been bouncing around.
Speaker 3: It opened to two and a half, got bet up
Speaker 3: to three, came back to two and a half. Because
Speaker 3: the wise guys know Mike Tomlin as a dog sixty
Speaker 3: two percent on the road, he is the best coach
Speaker 3: as a dog this generation. Twenty years. He is sixty
Speaker 3: two percent as a dog in the division on the road,
Speaker 3: sixty four percent when the spread is between one and three.
Speaker 3: I do believe that a lot of people are just
Speaker 3: enamored with how Joe Burrow has been playing pret year.
Speaker 3: He's putting up pinball numbers, right. But this is a
Speaker 3: terrible defense. And while they've been off for two weeks,
Speaker 3: the Steelers have been off for ten days, and it's
Speaker 3: a raw rah Mike Tomlin spot. He makes these guys believe,
Speaker 3: and they's still in a position where they can win
Speaker 3: that division. So you're not going to want to lose
Speaker 3: an in division game. I bet the Steelers on the
Speaker 3: money line.
Speaker 2: Another dog I like is Arizona plus three and a
Speaker 2: half at the Vikings so off of by Arizona was
Speaker 2: a mess and a lot of it. With Seattle got
Speaker 2: a consistent pass rush, I don't think Minnesota's pass rush
Speaker 2: will be that formidable. I also think Arizona, when they
Speaker 2: can run the ball, is a really really effective team.
Speaker 2: I think they'll have a better chance to run the
Speaker 2: ball here. Arizona is inconsistent, but this is a team
Speaker 2: that has for the last five weeks. I mean they
Speaker 2: went to Miami in one and they went to Santa
Speaker 2: Clara in one. I think their personnels better than people think.
Speaker 2: They have elite players, Budda Baker's elite, Connor's elite. Mcgride
Speaker 2: is a tremendous tight end, Kyler Murray's elite. They don't
Speaker 2: have big names on the interior d line, but they
Speaker 2: play well. They play above their weight. So I just
Speaker 2: think I think this is a close game. Minnesota doesn't
Speaker 2: really bury people. Go look at the Jacksonville game, go
Speaker 2: look at the Chicago game. They're not Philadelphia, they don't
Speaker 2: blow over you. They make mistakes, they're missing their great
Speaker 2: left tackle. They're a good team, they're not special. They're
Speaker 2: well coached with some nice playmakers. But you watch the
Speaker 2: Minnesota game, that's a go either way football game, it
Speaker 2: doesn't look like either team is significantly more talented and
Speaker 2: one is in turmoil, and you're like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: they kind of look the same. I'm taking the three
Speaker 2: and a half with Arizona Sharper square.
Speaker 3: Eh, it's kind of an ish, like there's no consensus.
Speaker 3: It's not a lot of interest, to be honest, from
Speaker 3: the wise guys. There's some games on the board that
Speaker 3: the wise guys have planted a flag in the sand on.
Speaker 3: This is not one of them. A lot of the
Speaker 3: wise guys liked Arizona last week. They feel a little
Speaker 3: burned by what happened in Seattle. You still don't know,
Speaker 3: we said last week. They put all their cards on
Speaker 3: the table, right, pun intended, and they come off to buy.
Speaker 1: Kyler looks disinterested.
Speaker 3: So what are you going to be getting the second
Speaker 3: week going against Minnesota, which still has a lot to lose,
Speaker 3: And you're right, they gave it away against the Bears.
Speaker 3: Like the Bears should not even have been close to
Speaker 3: turning that game into an overtime game so that they
Speaker 3: come out with a little more intensity this week. It's
Speaker 3: just a hard one and handicap.
Speaker 1: I think. I think the line is kind of right
Speaker 1: exactly where it.
Speaker 2: Is, Okay, a favorite. I like Buffalo at home minus seven,
Speaker 2: well rested and waiting for a nine ers team. Bosa
Speaker 2: didn't practice, Trent Williams didn't practice. I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: that locker room. I mean, if Bosa doesn't play, that's
Speaker 2: a very average D line. Buffalo's rested, they're healthy. You know,
Speaker 2: they're a team that they're playing for the number one
Speaker 2: seed here. And by the way, Alan the backup for
Speaker 2: San Francisco, that's not going to work. That's just not
Speaker 2: good enough. And Brock Prudy, who never has a great arm,
Speaker 2: is now dealing with a shoulder in shoot again, this
Speaker 2: is not a guy with a whip to begin with.
Speaker 2: This is the rare. I think the Niners are living
Speaker 2: off reputation. I just don't think they're a very special
Speaker 2: football team. Five and seven in their last twelve. I'm
Speaker 2: going to lay the seven. I like Buffalo sharper square.
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean the wise guys had been betting Buffalo.
Speaker 3: It opened at six and a half, it's got up
Speaker 3: to seven. I think the real question why it sort
Speaker 3: of hasn't exploded, and we saw this last week with
Speaker 3: the Packers, is Brock Purdy. What's his status going to be?
Speaker 3: So no one's going to overinvest until they get a
Speaker 3: real sense of what whether or not he's going to
Speaker 3: be playing. I agree with you about Nick Bosa. If
Speaker 3: you watch that game against the Seahawks, he was the
Speaker 3: difference when he was playing, they were in control of
Speaker 3: that game. Gino Smith was harassed, he was making bad
Speaker 3: decisions and bad throws when he was no longer playing
Speaker 3: in that game, Gino Smith goes on a drive in
Speaker 3: the final two minutes that wins them the game, and
Speaker 3: now all of a sudden it's propelling saddle into Seattle
Speaker 3: and everyone thinking they're a super special team and they
Speaker 3: could potentially win the NFC West. Nick Boson not being
Speaker 3: there and Trent Williams are those are massive, massive missing pieces.
Speaker 2: I like the Titans plus five and a half at
Speaker 2: the Commander's I think Cliff Kingsbury does this single guy
Speaker 2: a lot of time in the summer, plays some golf,
Speaker 2: and comes up with a new offense, and I think
Speaker 2: it fools people, and then all of a sudden, about
Speaker 2: mid October to late October, if you look at his
Speaker 2: history in college or pro football, people catch up and
Speaker 2: then you're left with a September offense in November. And
Speaker 2: I just don't think the Commander's I mean Jesus, it's
Speaker 2: like the Cowboys had the Commander's playbook. They would flush
Speaker 2: Daniels out of the pocket and there were guys just
Speaker 2: waiting for him. And I think Tennessee is really good upfront, defensively,
Speaker 2: very disruptive. I think Will Levis still makes He's got
Speaker 2: that Will Levis Carson Wentz reckless gene. But you know what,
Speaker 2: I think he's played himself into another year starting and
Speaker 2: I think you can sense it. I think he doesn't
Speaker 2: feel as apprehensive.
Speaker 1: I just don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up five and a half points for
Speaker 2: anybody against the Commanders. I think they're just right now,
Speaker 2: an average roster. They have laid out their cards, everybody's
Speaker 2: seen them. I'm taking the five and a half. I
Speaker 2: think Tennessee's a tough, physical team. Is Houston found out
Speaker 2: Sharper Square.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you nail that it's totally sharp. The interesting thing
Speaker 3: here is the line moved from six and a half
Speaker 3: to six to five and a half early in the week,
Speaker 3: and for what we're talking about here, early in the
Speaker 3: week was really Monday, and that was a consensus professional move.
Speaker 3: I bet it at five and a half. It moved
Speaker 3: up a little bit to six six and a half again,
Speaker 3: and now it's come back down. I couldn't agree with
Speaker 3: you more. The cliff cliff, the Cliff Kingsbury cliff. Mid
Speaker 3: season is real. Statistically, right, Texas Tech they would get
Speaker 3: to the middle point of the year, they would lose. Cardinals,
Speaker 3: they would get to the middle point of the year,
Speaker 3: they would lose. If you want to pack that, it's
Speaker 3: somewhat circumstantial, right, you can look at Texas Tech and
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, they played Patsy's in the beginning of
Speaker 3: the year, they get into the conference, the schedule gets
Speaker 3: hush right, right, and the Cardinals a couple times, he
Speaker 3: had Kyler Murray injured, didn't have the full scope of
Speaker 3: his talent, and all of a sudden the team isn't
Speaker 3: as good. But it's happening again. It's happening this time
Speaker 3: because Jade Daniels is injured and has been playing injured,
Speaker 3: and after that rocket start the first four weeks of
Speaker 3: the year, he's barely completing seventy percent of his passes.
Speaker 1: After a start he was completing eighty percent.
Speaker 3: Right, you look at the flip side, and yes, Tennessee
Speaker 3: they have a very good defense.
Speaker 1: They've been playing better.
Speaker 3: Last week they gave up eight sacks and Will Levis
Speaker 3: had a pick six and they still beat Texans who
Speaker 3: have a better quarterback in the Washington Commanders. And I
Speaker 3: do think that this is going to be the worst
Speaker 3: defense Will Levis has faced this season, and he has
Speaker 3: an opportunity here to be pressured a little bit less
Speaker 3: and get the ball, push the ball downfield, which is
Speaker 3: what he's really good at, and that's when he's most comfortable.
Speaker 3: So well as guys are with you, that's a sharp play.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people will watch this. I
Speaker 2: like the Texans minus four at the Jags. I don't
Speaker 2: know what the Jags are playing for. I think that's
Speaker 2: a kind of a ugly, toxic locker room where people
Speaker 2: have bailed. I think the Texans off one of their
Speaker 2: worst performances of the year. It means a lot. They're
Speaker 2: playing for more. They're pissed off. They have an issue
Speaker 2: with protection guard center guard, but they've got just simply
Speaker 2: better players playing for more, and frankly, a better quarterback.
Speaker 2: If Trevor Lawrence plays, he's not close to one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I think they have a coaching advantage, a coordinating advantage.
Speaker 2: This feels like my second favorite bet of the week.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take the Texans minus four at the
Speaker 2: Jag Sharper Square.
Speaker 3: Well, I wish you hadn't said it was your second
Speaker 3: favorite favorite. The wise guys are all over the Jags
Speaker 3: in this game. They love the Jags. They've moved from
Speaker 3: five to four and a half to four.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's an interesting one for me personally. I
Speaker 3: agree with you it's a pass. I think the wise
Speaker 3: guys are looking at CJ. Stroud and thinking it's not
Speaker 3: that he's not progressing, it's that he's the protection's terriblake. Well,
Speaker 3: he's playing like a normal quarterback right and like his
Speaker 3: interception percentage was so low last year that it doubles
Speaker 3: this year, and all of a sudden it's at league
Speaker 3: average and everyone thinks, oh my god, there's something wrong.
Speaker 3: With him, they're playing different defenses. Again, it's him, so
Speaker 3: his coverage is different, and he hasn't had his best players,
Speaker 3: so and and and the offensive line protection is terrible,
Speaker 3: truly terrible.
Speaker 2: You can tell letting everything a second early everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's also a gunslinger, right like he likes
Speaker 3: to let it go. He's not going to stop being aggressive.
Speaker 3: As he said last week, you got to shoot your shot.
Speaker 3: So I think that the wise guys are looking at
Speaker 3: this and saying division game on the road, JAG's last
Speaker 3: chance to make a stand if Trevor Lawrence is playing,
Speaker 3: the sort of betting on the opportunity that he might
Speaker 3: be playing. And they thought the number was a little
Speaker 3: bit too high, so they're taking a piece of that
Speaker 3: while they can.
Speaker 2: Lions either minus nine or nine and a half at
Speaker 2: home against Chicago. So Detroit played by their standards poorly
Speaker 2: last week on the road and beat a pretty good
Speaker 2: roster soundly. Chicago's had back to back games, heartbreaking games
Speaker 2: where they really should win the game and they don't.
Speaker 2: And I just wonder about their metal. I just wonder
Speaker 2: about how deep the reservoir of disappointment is with Chicago.
Speaker 2: I also think when you play Detroit, you always play
Speaker 2: from behind. Now, maybe that doesn't Affectkayleb Williams because he
Speaker 2: was very good behind against Minus. He's such a playmaker.
Speaker 2: But I could see this game becoming thirty eight thirteen
Speaker 2: really really fast. I'm going to swallow the points Detroit
Speaker 2: minus nine, nine and a half sharper square.
Speaker 1: Is this your favorite favorite?
Speaker 2: No? I like Buffalo as my favorite favorite.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Wise guys have been all over the Bears.
Speaker 3: It went from ten and a half to ten to
Speaker 3: nine and a half. As of Wednesday afternoon it was
Speaker 3: at nine. I am shocked. I feel like this is
Speaker 3: a massive overreaction to the Bears, to two games of
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams playing well, still not winning, but playing well.
Speaker 3: And by the way, in order to make that game
Speaker 3: against Minnesota look halfway decent in the final score, he
Speaker 3: needed three miracle passes. And I know you've been spending
Speaker 3: a lot of time on Caleb Williams this week and
Speaker 3: this season on the show. One of your rants from
Speaker 3: earlier this week is like lighting up my Chicago friends
Speaker 3: text chain because you've nailed every single component of this,
Speaker 3: especially about Matt Eberfluse. This is a terrible coach. He's
Speaker 3: a fine defensive coordinator. This is a coaching mismatch in
Speaker 3: a short week with a Lions team that got to
Speaker 3: really pull back on the throttle against the Colts and
Speaker 3: the Bears team that had to go into overtime to
Speaker 3: lose and now has to play the earlier game on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Like, how does this coaching staff turn it around?
Speaker 3: Right? That's number one. Number two, I believe being physical travels.
Speaker 3: It is the one thing that is consistent in football.
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks are going to have bad games, Receivers are going
Speaker 3: to drop passes. But when you can block the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage and dominate your opponent, that is the same
Speaker 3: every single week. And we saw it last week with
Speaker 3: the Lions. I loved the Colts last week. The Lions
Speaker 3: go out and just beat up a very physical team
Speaker 3: in the Colts. So now we've got a team in
Speaker 3: the Lions second overall in success rate, meaning they get
Speaker 3: a higher percentage of yardage on each down towards a
Speaker 3: first down than any other team except for one second
Speaker 3: in rush success rate. Second in rush expected points per rush,
Speaker 3: meaning do they get the number of points does the
Speaker 3: rush lead to a point on the scoreboard, it's the
Speaker 3: second best in the league EPA expected points overall third.
Speaker 3: The Bears twenty sixth in the NFL in rushing. Their
Speaker 3: rush defense is terrible. People want to talk about how
Speaker 3: good their pass rush is and could they do something
Speaker 3: to Jared Goff. I don't care because if it's third
Speaker 3: and eight for the Lions, they know they're going to
Speaker 3: go four and fourth down, going to give Jamir Gibs
Speaker 3: the ball, and he's going to gain five yards, and
Speaker 3: then they're going to go four on four and three. Like,
Speaker 3: I don't see what this feels like, just a massive mismatch.
Speaker 3: I think we're seeing something historical with the lines. I
Speaker 3: think we're seeing something we see generationally, and I think
Speaker 3: wise guys here are playing a two game sample size
Speaker 3: and betting against a number that I'm not buying.
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Speaker 2: I always have a game every week. I want your expertise.
Speaker 2: So I think the Chargers are a better team than
Speaker 2: the Falcons. But I also think the Falcons are rested,
Speaker 2: they're at home, and I think they're more explosive offensively.
Speaker 2: I feel like with the Chargers, and I've seen this
Speaker 2: now a couple times this year, because they don't have playmakers.
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson officially can't catch that. They score basically on
Speaker 2: big drives nine play drives, ten play drives, eleven play drives. Well,
Speaker 2: you're asking for perfect football. You know Philadelphia can have penalties.
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley rips off a fifty seven yarder AJ Brown
Speaker 2: over the top. You need freebies. You can't live on
Speaker 2: twelve play drives. And that's what the Chargers have to do.
Speaker 2: And the middle of their interior of their own line
Speaker 2: isn't good enough so they get holding calls. They don't
Speaker 2: have receivers that separate. I'm guessing the Sharps like Atlanta
Speaker 2: plus one at home.
Speaker 1: Back and forth.
Speaker 3: The line actually moved up from one and a half
Speaker 3: to to two and a half. And I think that
Speaker 3: the sentiment is that people were actually impressed with the
Speaker 3: Chargers and that the difference in that game against the
Speaker 3: Ravens was JK. Dobbins leaving the game and it completely
Speaker 3: changed the tenor. And you're right about the offensive line,
Speaker 3: especially the interior the offensive line. That's where the Ravens
Speaker 3: were getting pressure. The Falcons can't get pressure. They're not
Speaker 3: the Ravens. They really can't get any pressure at all.
Speaker 3: And so that's not expected to be a factor for
Speaker 3: the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I will tell you it's sort of and not.
Speaker 3: The line has come back down, which tells you that
Speaker 3: the wise guys felt the line had gotten too high,
Speaker 3: and there's been some buyback. And by the way, this
Speaker 3: is a very common thing. There are a lot of
Speaker 3: professional betters who might like the Falcons and want the
Speaker 3: line to be a little bit different. So early in
Speaker 3: the week, what do they do. They bet on the Chargers,
Speaker 3: say five grand ten grand whatever, move the line up,
Speaker 3: and then when it gets to a certain point they
Speaker 3: bet fifty grand sixty grand on the Falcons. Right, So
Speaker 3: they're paying a little bit of a premium to get
Speaker 3: the line to move so they can get better price
Speaker 3: on the team they really want.
Speaker 1: That could have happened this week. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that, but it's possible. So there's no
Speaker 3: it's a long way of saying there's no real consensus
Speaker 3: here on what this game should be.
Speaker 2: Okay, Chad, And there's always one that I missed. Seahawks
Speaker 2: at the Jets is interesting to me. I kind of
Speaker 2: like Kansas City, big favorite over the Raiders. I'll stay away.
Speaker 2: What's the one I missed?
Speaker 1: Well, look the wise guys like the Jets. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 3: It's so interesting because on one New York team, you've
Speaker 3: got locker room turmoil, you've got quarterback intrigue, you've got
Speaker 3: players who are frustrated with the coaching, you've got an
Speaker 3: owner who is incredibly frustrated with how the person to
Speaker 3: know has sort of fleshed out. And then you've got
Speaker 3: another New York team where the owner is basically entering
Speaker 3: his Montgomery burns phase right, he is taking a helicopter,
Speaker 3: landing it on the field. The GM is standing next
Speaker 3: to a coach when the helicopter lands and said, if
Speaker 3: I don't come back, it's been a pleasure to.
Speaker 1: Serve with you.
Speaker 3: And then the GM actually gets fired. And this is
Speaker 3: after the coach. The owner had fired the coach without
Speaker 3: telling anybody, and after the owner had traded for a
Speaker 3: receiver without telling anybody, and openly opine, should we be
Speaker 3: bencing Annion Rodgers? And yet the wise guys they've been
Speaker 3: betting the Giants, but they like the Jets a lot
Speaker 3: more against Seattle. I think part of it is like
Speaker 3: this is the time to grab a number that is
Speaker 3: overinflated on Seattle as much as anything else. So they're
Speaker 3: on that. The wise guys, of course they're going to
Speaker 3: be on the Raiders. It's not even it's not even
Speaker 3: a question. They were on the Raiders when the line
Speaker 3: was at thirteen and a half thirteen, twelve and a
Speaker 3: half twelve. It got that back up by the public
Speaker 3: because Aidan O'Connell was announced as the quarterback. The wise
Speaker 3: guys are now just gonna wait see how much more
Speaker 3: they can how much of a better price they can
Speaker 3: get between now and kickoff on Friday. They're gonna buy
Speaker 3: the Raiders.
Speaker 1: One team that I asked you to look at last week,
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2: What it works, Anne, what's the line?
Speaker 3: The line is six? So the Carolina Tampa Bay hosting
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 2: So the Carolina Panthers at home plus six against Tampa Bay. Yes, yes, well,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: TAMPBA wis the wise guys like it. I don't say it.
Speaker 2: Well, Baker played perfect, so they come back down to Earth.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I think both Will Levis
Speaker 2: and Bryce Young for Tennessee and Carolina respectively, in a
Speaker 2: weak college quarterback draft class, have extended their starting franchise
Speaker 2: career one more year. I think Bryce Young and Will
Speaker 2: Levis looked like, now, let's give them another year.
Speaker 3: I think that's one hundred percent accurate, which is what
Speaker 3: Bryce Young has been the past few games. And so
Speaker 3: you know in that Kansas City game, he was throwing darts, yeah,
Speaker 3: and keeping them in the game, and every time you
Speaker 3: looked up, they were driving. And the Bucks defense it's
Speaker 3: not as good as Kansas City's. They're playing at home
Speaker 3: six points in the division is a ton You're getting
Speaker 3: an inflation on the line because of what the Bucks
Speaker 3: just did to the Giants.
Speaker 1: So the wise guys like the Panthers go.
Speaker 3: Look, I love the Panthers to start the year, and
Speaker 3: they burned me consecutive weeks, so I sort of stayed
Speaker 3: away from them and even publicly talking about them. I
Speaker 3: went back on them big last week, and I was
Speaker 3: glad that I did. I'm a little anxious going back
Speaker 3: to the well and the Panthers again, but I have
Speaker 3: bet the Panthers at plus six.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's still a right spot. It's
Speaker 1: going to change, but I'm hoping that it doesn't this week.
Speaker 2: So I don't throw your curves, but I want to
Speaker 2: talk USC Notre Dame. Notre Dame getting plus seven and
Speaker 2: a half so early in the week. I like Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard has cleaned up his game, no turnovers. They
Speaker 2: are a team that runs the football. USC not great
Speaker 2: defending the run, and I think they're well coach. I
Speaker 2: like their culture. USC is playing a quarterback who started
Speaker 2: the year on the bench, completes about fifty five percent
Speaker 2: of his throws, much looser and mistake prone than Miller Moss,
Speaker 2: but much more athletic. They can move the pocket, which
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley historically likes. USC's got some really nice perimeter weapons.
Speaker 2: They're at home, no pressure, I mean, I mean, and
Speaker 2: I think USC. They beat LSU, they beat UCLA, and
Speaker 2: they had Penn State beat They're not bad. Every USC
Speaker 2: game looks the exact same. It's close, they lead in
Speaker 2: the fourth, then they even lose to Meryl. So my
Speaker 2: take is I've gone back and said, you know what,
Speaker 2: they're going to lose, but I'm taking the hook. I'm
Speaker 2: taking USC plus seven and a half. What are the
Speaker 2: sharp saying on that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're getting the hook at home, you should
Speaker 3: be taking it. That's sort of the tipping point in
Speaker 3: a game like this. The challenge with everything you've said
Speaker 3: is the College Football Playoff. Notre Dame is now fifth
Speaker 3: in the College Football Playoff rankings. Every game, every win,
Speaker 3: every margin of victory, every optic is going to matter
Speaker 3: going forward. And I know they're locked in with Oregon
Speaker 3: and Penn State and Ohio State and Texas like those
Speaker 3: are the teams that the College Football Playoff is really
Speaker 3: thinking about as one through four. But Notre Dame is
Speaker 3: still playing for something that matters in terms of positioning
Speaker 3: with the people with the teams behind them. So that's
Speaker 3: what scares me a little bit about this game and USC.
Speaker 3: You're not wrong, but some of these games you're talking about,
Speaker 3: they were earlier in the year and they were a
Speaker 3: different team, and there's been a lot of turmoil with
Speaker 3: that organization the past month, between the changing and the quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: between the fines, you know, people, the recruits who have
Speaker 3: been decommitting and going to other places. You know that
Speaker 3: USC team and culture much better than I do, but
Speaker 3: that feels like an organization where they need this to
Speaker 3: be a competitive game in a different way than Notre
Speaker 3: Dame does. And Notre Dame is playing for something right
Speaker 3: now that feels much much bigger to me than what
Speaker 3: USC is playing for. I'm waffling here. You take the hook,
Speaker 3: but it's not a game I want any piece.
Speaker 2: Of, all right, that's fair. Yeah, it's funny about this
Speaker 2: transfer Portal Colorado, LSU, and USC have used it a lot,
Speaker 2: and all three of them the season's always end disappointing.
Speaker 2: Why Because, in my opinion, this is one of my
Speaker 2: theories that you can use the transfer portal to plug holes.
Speaker 2: It's very hard to build a culture with all the
Speaker 2: interlopers and newcomers, and so what happens over the course
Speaker 2: of a season at USC, LSU and Colorado when you
Speaker 2: face adversity is when you need a great culture. And
Speaker 2: they have better talent, but they don't have great cultures.
Speaker 2: They don't have guys that have been together for four
Speaker 2: years since high school, and so LSU Colorado USC heavy
Speaker 2: transfer portal, whereas a Notre Dame very little transfer portal,
Speaker 2: great culture with Marcus Freeman. They had an early loss
Speaker 2: that was awful. They've gotten stronger because their culture is better.
Speaker 2: So you look at these teams that had early setbacks,
Speaker 2: and setbacks can splinter locker rooms and these heavy transfer
Speaker 2: portal teams, they all bad. At the end of the season,
Speaker 2: a lot of people start going their own way. The
Speaker 2: nil guys are looking at the pros so ole Miss
Speaker 2: by the way, everybody loves old Miss. Yeah, what happens
Speaker 2: against an inferior Florida team they don't play well. Guys
Speaker 2: now are going to start heading in their own directions.
Speaker 2: So that's what I think I found from the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: I can think two things. I like it, but I
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to build around it. It's important, but I
Speaker 2: don't want it to be my primary infrastructure.
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you an example that supports both
Speaker 3: sides of your theory. Indiana Hoosiers, who I went to Indiana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love them. I've been so excited for this
Speaker 1: team all year.
Speaker 3: Obviously, heavy portalnetty, they use the transfer portal heavily. But
Speaker 3: what they did was they basically took the entire team
Speaker 3: from James Madison and plug them in. So, yeah, it
Speaker 3: worked for them. But the reason it for them is
Speaker 3: because they maintained a culture that existed with Chrit Signetti
Speaker 3: from where he was before and then brought it to Bloomington.
Speaker 3: And that's translated in a very successful way. And what's
Speaker 3: more interesting to me also about this is I think
Speaker 3: there is an opportunity for teams like Indiana, who have
Speaker 3: been middling teams to get the fourth fifth year seniors
Speaker 3: who want to keep playing college football. They might not
Speaker 3: be great NFL players, but they're incredibly effective, productive, workman
Speaker 3: like college football players and their adults. So instead of
Speaker 3: the sophomore five star who's not getting any playing time
Speaker 3: and is transferring from Texas to Ole Miss.
Speaker 1: They're getting the.
Speaker 3: Fourth year Matt quarterback who was really good and is
Speaker 3: time to see if he can stretch his game to
Speaker 3: the next level. And he's an adult, and that's just
Speaker 3: a different kind of player in college football. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying now Indiana has a ceiling on this. We saw
Speaker 3: it against Ohio State. You got to get athletes and
Speaker 3: people on the edge and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But I think you can build a really successful program
Speaker 3: through the portal if you're getting guys who are just
Speaker 3: great college football players and not necessarily the highest ceiling athletes.
Speaker 2: Let me throw this at you, speaking of college football.
Speaker 2: Ryan Day is sixty six and nine. Obviously he's lost
Speaker 2: to good teams Clemson, Georgia, Michigan three times. You know,
Speaker 2: he's beating everybody else, beating the brains in and you
Speaker 2: know again lost to Oregon. Well, everybody loses it ops
Speaker 2: and except the Ducks. Right. So the one thing about
Speaker 2: Ohio State in the playoff that is really interesting. So
Speaker 2: people think, huh, if Ryan Day beats Michigan, finally the
Speaker 2: Wolves will scale back. But the next week it's Oregon.
Speaker 2: You can't lose to Oregon twice with Ohio States. So
Speaker 2: let's say he beats Michigan and Oregon. Oh, all the
Speaker 2: wars are gone. But he loses to Tennessee in the
Speaker 2: first round. You're like, wait a minute, I saw who
Speaker 2: Tennessee lost to. Tennessee's not a great team. Let's say
Speaker 2: they beat Tennessee but then lose to a like, you know,
Speaker 2: a Boise State, or they lose to an Arizona State
Speaker 2: or somebody else. He's gonna get crushed. Ohio State goes
Speaker 2: into the playoff. They're the only team in the playoff
Speaker 2: where every single game could potentially get their coach fire
Speaker 2: with a sixty six and nine, and that dress that
Speaker 2: pressure on Ryan Day and his staff. Like, people want
Speaker 2: Sark to win, but Texas has stunk pre Sark for
Speaker 2: about twenty years. They're happy as hell. They're going to
Speaker 2: get into the playoff for the second year in a row,
Speaker 2: and they're just too damn good not to win a
Speaker 2: couple of games. And so Sark. If Sark wins two
Speaker 2: games in the playoff and loses, he's going to retain
Speaker 2: his job. No other team, no other coaching staff faces Oh,
Speaker 2: you've got to get to the final and if they
Speaker 2: get to the final and lose an overtime to Texas. Okay,
Speaker 2: if they go to the final and get blown out
Speaker 2: by Texas, that's not good enough. So I think Ohio
Speaker 2: State faces this top down pressure from their fan base.
Speaker 2: I mean, they went all in on the NAL. Let's
Speaker 2: spilt like twenty million dollars in the NAAL. They went
Speaker 2: and got Chip Kelly. I don't know if you could
Speaker 2: win a national title with that sort of intense insular pressure.
Speaker 3: Well, he has to win the national title with that
Speaker 3: intense insular pressure, because I don't think there is any
Speaker 3: other out if he doesn't win. They've built a coaching
Speaker 3: staff for it, they've built a roster for it, they
Speaker 3: have given him every opportunity. He has not been able
Speaker 3: to beat Michigan. He could not win in the national
Speaker 3: title experience a few years ago, right, even though you
Speaker 3: know CJ. Stroud and they lost Marvin Harrison and like
Speaker 3: it was a difficult circumstance, they still couldn't win. So
Speaker 3: the fact is he is under the most pressure of
Speaker 3: any coach going into the playoff.
Speaker 1: You're not wrong.
Speaker 3: A lot of those coaches, like whether they win or not,
Speaker 3: they're gonna be fine for the next year. Ryan Day
Speaker 3: has not won enough at a school that expects nothing
Speaker 3: less than national titles.
Speaker 1: In fact, he's faltered.
Speaker 3: In humiliating ways in the games that matter the most.
Speaker 3: They if they go ten to one, eleven and one,
Speaker 3: twelve and one every year and they don't beat Michigan
Speaker 3: and they don't win a national title, they're irrelevant. They're
Speaker 3: just another franchise. So couldn't agree more. I had this
Speaker 3: conversation also about Nick Sirianni. You know, the Eagles, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, they've won seven in a row. They're
Speaker 3: finally playing well, Like Sae Kwon Barkley is going off,
Speaker 3: they like the Lions have a dominant offensive line. Their
Speaker 3: defensive line behind Jalen Carter is playing incredibly well. Their
Speaker 3: secondary Cooper dejen Like has been one of the top corners.
Speaker 3: Quintin Mitchell that one of the top quarters in the
Speaker 3: NFL in terms of coverage rookies. Right, Nick Sirianni goes
Speaker 3: to the NFC title game and loses. I don't think
Speaker 3: he's coming back. I think they'll look at it and say,
Speaker 3: this team's talent level is amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to coach you can get us to
Speaker 1: the next level. So I think you're a couple coaches
Speaker 1: who are on spots like that.
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Speaker 2: Second letter of intent day in college football and the
Speaker 2: transfer portal, where you're recruiting your own players as much
Speaker 2: to stay as much as you are exterior players to
Speaker 2: enter college football is not nearly as appealing. You get
Speaker 2: very little time off. You're dealing with the NCAA collectives, donors, presidents,
Speaker 2: I mean the collectives. You have to be a GM
Speaker 2: and you have to be a coach. So I always
Speaker 2: thought if I like I asked Jimmy Johnson the other
Speaker 2: day we were at Fox and I said, what was
Speaker 2: more fun? College or pro? He goes, Oh, college is
Speaker 2: way more fun. I mean you're connecting with young kids.
Speaker 2: You're changing their lives.
Speaker 1: He goes.
Speaker 2: You know, you go into eighty your games with the
Speaker 2: talent advantage, you got two or three big games. It's fun.
Speaker 2: You and the staff can go grab petz Is twice
Speaker 2: a week. It's fun. NFL you have to be a
Speaker 2: hard ass. You're constantly dealing with a crazy owner. You're
Speaker 2: constantly having to be a tough coach on your coaches
Speaker 2: because they develop close relationships with players. Because players can
Speaker 2: stay eight, nine, ten years in college, you're running through players.
Speaker 2: They cycle through NFL. You know, a great defensive end
Speaker 2: could stay with you eight years. He becomes best friends.
Speaker 2: You know, they're going to the weddings of the coaches
Speaker 2: and the players. So you constantly have to be on
Speaker 2: your assistant coaches and coordinators to be hard asses. He goes,
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of work, and I thought, you know, Dion,
Speaker 2: I if I said Dion goes pro or Dion just
Speaker 2: upgrades to a bigger college program, because I don't think
Speaker 2: he stays at Colorado forever. I think it's a cool story.
Speaker 2: He doesn't need the money or the NFL pension, so
Speaker 2: it's not a money thing with him. He's gonna make
Speaker 2: eight ten wherever he goes or more. Do you but
Speaker 2: do you think he will follow his son to the
Speaker 2: pros or go to a bigger college job. Let's just
Speaker 2: take staying at Colorado for ten years off the table.
Speaker 2: He may, but let's take it off the table. I
Speaker 2: can see him going to an Auburn. I can see
Speaker 2: him going to like a like a non traditional power,
Speaker 2: but like a good program, like an Auburn, that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. Where do you think Dion goes in wa?
Speaker 1: Well, I know what I want. I want Dion in
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 3: I think it'd be fascinating as an experiment because how
Speaker 3: many players.
Speaker 1: Are as respected by his players as Dione.
Speaker 3: Right, he is a Hall of Fame athlete, not just
Speaker 3: a guy who's a great football player.
Speaker 1: He was a legendary athlete.
Speaker 3: He was doing things that we will be remembered for
Speaker 3: generations and a lot of the players he's going to
Speaker 3: be coaching. We're not alive when he was playing baseball
Speaker 3: and football and he was going to the World Series
Speaker 3: and then he was playing in NFL games. I mean,
Speaker 3: the guy is just so revered. It'd be like Alan
Speaker 3: Iverson coaching an NBA team. That's how revered the guy is.
Speaker 3: So I want to see if his ego and his
Speaker 3: strategy and his ability to motivate can do that at
Speaker 3: the NFL level with professionals.
Speaker 1: How long will it last? Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 3: One of the problems Jim Harborough has had as a
Speaker 3: coach is that his tactics and his personality starts to
Speaker 3: wear thin on the people around him. It's what happened
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. It happened a little bit at Michigan
Speaker 3: until he finally started winning a national title and started
Speaker 3: getting that team into the playoff, and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden he had the leverage to leave. So I
Speaker 3: don't know how long Dion could last doing what he's
Speaker 3: doing because I don't know if Like I am fascinated
Speaker 3: by his videos and watching his motivational speeches for his
Speaker 3: team and watching how he handles the press, and I
Speaker 3: think he's really good at it and will that work
Speaker 3: as a molder of young men on players that are
Speaker 3: already adults and already making all that money. I think
Speaker 3: he's in a great spot in college. I hope that
Speaker 3: he knows it. I love it as a fan to
Speaker 3: see him in the NFL, But I got to think
Speaker 3: he knows how great in college because he knows how
Speaker 3: hard it is to coach in the pros because he
Speaker 3: was that elite guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, can I throw one more thing
Speaker 2: at you because we're doing a little longer version today,
Speaker 2: al Throya, let's do it. I love looking at great
Speaker 2: businesses and thinking, yeah, but there's a hole in the business, right,
Speaker 2: Like there's a hole in the business, and so you know,
Speaker 2: like like I'll give you an example. I worry that
Speaker 2: the NFL is becoming the NBA. So here's where it
Speaker 2: won't be the NBA. It won't be as international hockey
Speaker 2: basketball get very international. We don't follow international leagues a
Speaker 2: lot of these stars, you know, we don't watch Jokic
Speaker 2: play at March Madness. He's a second round pick by
Speaker 2: the time he's a star. Unless you watch the NBA nightly,
Speaker 2: you don't watch Denver, whereas NFL will always have a
Speaker 2: great advantage over all the other sports is we watch
Speaker 2: college football. We don't watch much college baseball, college high hockey,
Speaker 2: college basketball a little. But international players are half the
Speaker 2: guys drafted, so that'll never be a problem. But I
Speaker 2: do I'm seeing something this year that the middle of
Speaker 2: the NBA has always been soft and the bottom is
Speaker 2: awful and large that if you do not have two,
Speaker 2: like really high end players, you're not elite. So right
Speaker 2: now in the NBA, there's about six really good teams.
Speaker 2: The Knicks are really good. I think Cleveland, Boston, OKC, Denver,
Speaker 2: Minnesota is really good, although that Julius Randall thing may
Speaker 2: not work. There's about six to seven teams I like.
Speaker 2: There's a very soft middle where you drop off to
Speaker 2: like the Warriors, who are fun but nobody thinks they
Speaker 2: can win a title, and the bottom is mostly the
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. It's awful. It's ten teams right now in
Speaker 2: the NFL, so I never thought about that. I always
Speaker 2: thought the NFL was have have nots, but the have
Speaker 2: notts were really small. You start looking at the bottom
Speaker 2: of this league now because one months, ten years ago,
Speaker 2: the rules changed after the CTE lawsuit to protect quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: So it's a very offensive league. The final four coaches
Speaker 2: now several years in a row, all offensive guys. Even
Speaker 2: guys like Zach Taylor, we don't know are great coaches.
Speaker 2: Belichick look completely lost, Pete Carroll great defensive coaches. You
Speaker 2: feel like they're tone def to the league. Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: is having a good year, but for five years he
Speaker 2: couldn't figure out the O line, the run game. And
Speaker 2: so the league now is if you look at the
Speaker 2: teams we think can win the Super Bowl, it's mostly
Speaker 2: the same teams. It's Baltimore, it's Kansas City, it's Buffalo,
Speaker 2: it's I mean, now we look at Philadelphia and there's
Speaker 2: a couple of teams like Detroit's a surprised, but they
Speaker 2: have a super Bowl quarterback in Jared Goff is that
Speaker 2: the NFL's middle is getting larger, the bottom is awful
Speaker 2: and getting larger, and that it's because if you don't
Speaker 2: have a star quarterback now you just you can't compete.
Speaker 2: By week nine, ten eleven, I mean, we were in
Speaker 2: week eleven and we're like, I think there's three teams
Speaker 2: tanking like, ooh, that's an NBA vibe that I never
Speaker 2: had in the NFL. So this is my take, is
Speaker 2: that what the NFL will never be the NBA. We
Speaker 2: watch it, we bet it. It has a domestic farm
Speaker 2: system that we love. But I do see this growing
Speaker 2: middle and bottom. And I mean there are a lot
Speaker 2: of corner TV games every Sunday, Like used to be one,
Speaker 2: it's now six. Do you worry about this? Do you
Speaker 2: see this?
Speaker 1: I do see this.
Speaker 3: As with all things, follow the money, right, if you
Speaker 3: look at the betting stats four years, the strategy has
Speaker 3: been fade the public, you know, just bet against whatever
Speaker 3: the public is doing.
Speaker 1: This year, you cannot do that.
Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about this, right, What did a
Speaker 3: couple of the operators in their earnings calls at the
Speaker 3: end of Q three had to downgrade the revenue expectations
Speaker 3: for the year by a combined three hundred million dollars
Speaker 3: because of what they deemed euphemistically customer friendly outcomes. What
Speaker 3: that means is that the favorites, the teams that the
Speaker 3: public bets on, are crushing. And that happened starting in
Speaker 3: October and is continued into November. So that's one way
Speaker 3: to look at is the teams that are really really
Speaker 3: good are winning by really big margins, and that is
Speaker 3: not how it has historically been because the delta between
Speaker 3: the really really good and the mediocre was still not
Speaker 3: as big.
Speaker 1: As it is now. That's Number one.
Speaker 3: I do think that these NFL games, they are becoming unwatchable,
Speaker 3: and you're getting a sense from the announcers about this,
Speaker 3: like the number of penalties that are about procedures that
Speaker 3: are impacting the game and changing the flow and changing
Speaker 3: sometimes the outcome, and changing a scoring play and taking
Speaker 3: some of the excitement out of the game. I don't
Speaker 3: know what the NFL does about that, because they are
Speaker 3: always talking about emphasizing certain plays. They want to emphasize
Speaker 3: where the player, where the offensive linemen are lining up,
Speaker 3: so they're at the beltline of the center. They want
Speaker 3: to make sure that offensive linemen aren't going too far downfield.
Speaker 3: But everybody likes to run these RPOs and it's impossible
Speaker 3: for an offensive lineman to keep their positioning within two
Speaker 3: yards of the line of scrimmage. But these penalties are
Speaker 3: killing viewing experience as a fan. So that's two. Number three,
Speaker 3: It is a terrible live experience. And you know, a
Speaker 3: few weeks ago I did this with my kid were
Speaker 3: we went to Knicks Bowls at MSG in New York.
Speaker 3: The next night I did a show with you, and
Speaker 3: then right after we went to Commander's Eagles at the
Speaker 3: Lincoln Philadelphia. And then the next day we took a
Speaker 3: tour of University of Maryland. We took the train down
Speaker 3: to DC toward Maryland, and then we went to the
Speaker 3: Maryland Marquee game that night. The basketball experiences live we're
Speaker 3: so much better than the NFL experience. It is faster,
Speaker 3: it is more exciting. My going to NBA games, it's
Speaker 3: like the NFL game there was three seconds of action
Speaker 3: and then it's a commercial break, and then you're waiting
Speaker 3: for two minutes, and then it's a penalty, and then
Speaker 3: you're waiting for two minutes, and it's just like, let's
Speaker 3: have a game here, guys, and so like, look, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's all.
Speaker 1: A strong man argument. The NFL is not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: The NFL is only going to get bigger, it is
Speaker 3: going to get somewhat international. The NBA will never be
Speaker 3: as big as the NFL. It is going to suffer
Speaker 3: on Christmas Day when the NFL has games, and the
Speaker 3: NBA used to own that space. But the NFL is
Speaker 3: going to have to come to an understanding of what
Speaker 3: this television experience is because if there is this gap
Speaker 3: between the good teams and the bad teams, and every
Speaker 3: game is going to be a blowout and every game
Speaker 3: is going to take three and a half hours because
Speaker 3: there's so many penalties, eventually it might not be our lifetime.
Speaker 1: The world is going to turn.
Speaker 2: Chad Milman. All those odds provided by DraftKings. By the way,
Speaker 2: this was a good, long one. Happy thanks enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving. I'm thankful for a lot of things. You
Speaker 2: know what. I'm thankful for everything, sports, family, health, sports,
Speaker 2: good friends. You know, it's funny. I told somebody the
Speaker 2: other day, I said, I said, I've always been sort
Speaker 2: of odds socially. I said, I think I'm getting better
Speaker 2: at that. If I die tomorrow, I know at least
Speaker 2: eleven people that would go to my funeral. Last year
Speaker 2: it was only like six. So I'm really I'm really
Speaker 2: starting to be I'm growing as a human being, and
Speaker 2: I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a comfort level as you get older, I
Speaker 3: am thankful for all those things as well, and like
Speaker 3: I got a great life. I have nothing to complain about.
Speaker 3: It's like I can't believe how wonderful things are. But
Speaker 3: what I have found similar to you socially, I like,
Speaker 3: I'm not like I don't love going to parties. Yeah, same,
Speaker 3: And I don't love like going out to dinner, but
Speaker 3: I do it, and like there are always points in
Speaker 3: the evening when I'm I'm like, all right, I gotta go,
Speaker 3: and I'll say it like you know, right as dessert
Speaker 3: is the last bite of deserters, I'm like, I gotta
Speaker 3: get out here, I gotta go, and my wife Stacy
Speaker 3: will be like, I can't, Like you just can't do it.
Speaker 3: And I found myself this past weekend. We were out
Speaker 3: with friends that we both have mutual friends and we
Speaker 3: were just relaxing and I was enjoying and I was
Speaker 3: hearing stories, and I find myself having a lot more
Speaker 3: patience and being a lot more interested in listening to
Speaker 3: people more. I don't know what's going on, but I
Speaker 3: don't I don't mind it. And it means if it
Speaker 3: means I get twelve people at my funeral, fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chad doesn't know what's happening, but he's interested in
Speaker 2: other people's thoughts now and he doesn't know what to
Speaker 2: make of it.
Speaker 1: That's funny, totally just summed it up. What is It's like?
Speaker 3: It's like in Seinfeld, what is this salty discharge coming
Speaker 3: from my eyes?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Why is Chad showing interest in other people? What is
Speaker 1: happening here? So true? I'm such an asshole.
Speaker 2: No, my favorite people. That's it.
Speaker 1: You're honest, all right, brother, have a great Thanksgiving?
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