1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast, Keep scorching her from the 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: campus of you See Irvine and the home of the 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: world champion Los Angeles Rams. It's around the NFL. I'm 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Dan hansis joined for the first time ever since we've 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: done this podcast by a man with exposed legs. Greg 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. What's up? Voice? So not true. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure we've worn't short. Wasn't prepared for Harry legs. Greg, 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean I'm a hairy man. I just I didn't 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: want to say anything. It's not a negative. And you're 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: getting older. It's getting it's getting Harry, thankfully, unlike my 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: brother and dad not with the Harry back. So that's solid. 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: That's also this is the home of the ant theaters. 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Put some respect on Emicha. Rosenthal's Alma Mada. I apologize, 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: of course. It is there forever home, the temporary home 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: at least uh in summertime of the champion Rams and 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: I have to say, like, first of all, it's great 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: to be here. It's a beautiful day in southern California. 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: We're in the shade, which is an upgrade from past 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: years when we have been on location. Um, this is 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: a big crowd here. And we've been doing this long 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: enough where we we followed this whole saga of the 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Rams and for years and years the relocation drama around 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and then the Rams eventually coming here the 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: temporary home with the old Colosseum. So if I stadium 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: comes into being, and now you see what winning does. 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of people filing through these gates throughout 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: the summer, including thousands today. It's it's quite they got 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: they figured this out. Mark. They kind of stuck the 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: landing the Rams. If you were to script the narrative 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: from when they announced the move to what just happened 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl and then the fan appearance today, um, 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: you could not have scripted it more perfectly. The narrative 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: you feared essentially five years ago is coming too focus. 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: It is coming to focus. I want to use this 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: moment though, because this is this comes up like maybe 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: four times every episode that I had this anti Rams thing. 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: I was healthy. I had a healthy suspicions, suspicion about 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: what it would look like for us at at our 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: workplace and everything else. I'm fine, We're good. The Rams 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: are an enjoyable team to do things their own way. 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: I can appreciate it, and we've been indoctrinated. I was 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: here Thursday with my kids because that was the one 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: day I think they could go to trading camp, and 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: there they become Rams fans. They got an autograph from 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald in the line. I mean, they've got a 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: whole kids. I was at a Jeff Fisher practice the 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: first year he was coaching the Rams. To your point, Uh, 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: it's night and day. We have some footage of that 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: moment and Greg and his family were moved to the 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: front of the line in front of normal civilities to 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: get not true. That is not true. He won the bracelet. 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: You have to have spin a wheel, and he won 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: the bracelet. Uh. If he didn't get if he didn't 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: the veil, he did it. You had to get a 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: little that's a little different. If there was a wheel 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: that was spun, it's not remotely true. Spinning a wheel 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: sounds more realistic. Um. Yes, So here we are at 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: RAMS camp, and we're excited to be here, and we're 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: gonna have some great guests, UM, including the voice of 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: the Rams, JB. Long Jordan Rodrigue, who covers the Rams. 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: So beautifully for the athletic We're gonna have a kind 62 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: of like a Rams Nights of the Round table like 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: that conversation. I feel like that works whatever smart football minds. 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: And uh, we're also gonna have Allen Robinson, the big 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: marquee signing and free agency. Um, along with Bobby Wagner 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: coming to town. Those are the two big names on 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: each side of the ball. We got Allen Robinson on 68 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: the show, So I'll talk to Robinson what it's like 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: to go from the Bears, perhaps the most most moribund 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: organization right now, to the Rams, which is Hollywood. Uh. 71 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: But before that, what was that? That was a horn? 72 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, practices starting or moved to the 73 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: next Should we do a better job painting a picture. 74 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: We're literally behind I'll say the south end zone because 75 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: nobody knows behind the south end zone of one of 76 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: the fields here at the practice facility. Uh. So we're 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: here right his practices kicking off, and uh, we're excited 78 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: to be here. Before we get into some Rams talk, 79 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: let's do some league news. The NFL has notified the 80 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: NFL Players Association that it will appeal Judge Robinson's disciplinary 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: decision and it filed a brief as such this afternoon. 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: All right, we have to start with Deshaun Watson. Uh. 83 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: This is the the next chapter of the story that 84 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: we kind of predicted and thought was how it was 85 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: gonna play out when the first news uh came out 86 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: about Um Sue Robinson's ruling on Monday. The NFL has 87 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: indeed appealed the six game suspension for the Browns quarterback. 88 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: They are seeking obviously a tougher penalty. UM. And we're 89 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna see how this now plays out. Now the league 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: greg Um had the option here of Roger Goodell determining 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: um the appeal himself, but he is instead handing that 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: to someone else. Uh. And what where does that Where 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: does the where does the story land for you right now? 94 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: How this is gonna play out? Were you surprised that 95 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: it's not going to be Goodell himself that makes this decision? 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: It makes me a little less certain from the feeling 97 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: that if Roger Goodell wants to Shaun Watson to be 98 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: suspended for a year, which he does, they've been pushing 99 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: for an indefinite suspension that would be a minimum of 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: a year, which would probably include a fine, and and 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: and perhaps uh, other things Watson has to satisfy, like 102 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: like counseling that if Goodell wanted that, then that's what's 103 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Now him um appointing a different arbiter in 104 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: the case adds a little more uncertainty, But ultimately I 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: think what I think that's what's gonna happen. It's very 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: hard to predict, but I think Watson's lack of remorse, 107 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: which we've talked about on this show, is absolutely factoring 108 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: in to what's going to happen. Uh, Sue Robinson mentioned it, 109 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: and and I think Sue Robinson also mentioned that literally 110 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: everything the NFL tried to prove once we finally got 111 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: to look at what she said, what they tried to 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: prove in terms of his case was proven. The only 113 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: reason he was getting six games was she felt um 114 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: hamstrung by the lack of precedent and what had happened 115 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: and before and now I think this appeal opens it up. 116 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: So his total lack of remorse, and that's been the case. 117 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: And we saw a report from Diana Raussini this week 118 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: that his camp believed that six games was too much, 119 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: that they believe he deserved nothing. Um and that to 120 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: me speaks to his lack of remorse and speaks to 121 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: a group of people around him that is really letting 122 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: him live his lie. That the NFL and now, but 123 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: potentially um this judge who's gonna decide this arbiter will 124 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: see that as a huge factor and a reason to 125 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: give him the full year. That at no point in 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: this process, other than paying off the Texans and paying 127 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: off all the women, has he actually expressed that he 128 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: ever did anything wrong. You had talked about this lurking 129 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: as a legacy defining moment for Goodell, who had the 130 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: chance to step in if he wanted to oversee it 131 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: and come down with the ruling that would have addressed 132 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the things that you just said. I 133 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: do think that it is in a hazier place right 134 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: now when Judge A came up with the six game ruling, 135 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: and this is another judge who in theory, is gonna 136 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: look at it through the same lens and decide she 137 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: sue l Robinson was completely wrong with with her the 138 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: amount of games. I think that there's another detail in 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: this is that the league, it's come out, it's been reported, 140 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: they absolutely do not want to Shaun Watson playing with 141 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns against the Houston Texans in week thirteen, 142 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: and it makes me think that if there is a 143 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: amount of games that fits this, that twelve game window 144 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: would keep him out of that thorny What does that matter? 145 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: I people have thrown that out there, so there I suspect, 146 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: I think very sanely about this throwing. Someone is leaking 147 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: to some media this twelve game number. Whether that happens 148 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: or not, but you're there's something to it. There is 149 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: something to it. I mean, it's unsatisfying. Someone explains to 150 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: me why that matters. I don't think. I think, I 151 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: think the lead up that's not going to matter to 152 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: the judge or the new arbitr. But I'm just saying 153 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: that's something the league, no matter when he who he 154 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: plays in that first it will be. It's a detail 155 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: in there. But it's an unsatisfying conclusion, Like twelve games 156 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: seems like a very strange half measure. Like, yes, it's okay, 157 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: we're saying it's more it's more significant than Ben Roethlisberger, 158 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: or certainly more than Jamis Winston, who she mentioned as 159 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: as sort of a precedent. But then it's it's this 160 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: in between number, and that's why I think the NFL 161 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: doesn't want that they want the year. I just I 162 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: do think that we're in a much different place in 163 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: terms of what the result could be because Goodell is 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: not overseeing this. It's been put into a different place, 165 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: and I agree with obviously we are of like mind 166 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: about where this should land. I think it should have 167 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: been an indefinite or full season. That would be my 168 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: choice if I were in charge of the whole thing, 169 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: But like, it's an independent guy who's gonna come in 170 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: and look at it through a different lens than Mark, 171 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Greg Dan and a lot of the fans may come 172 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: up with a completely if that is, and that makes 173 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: sense why Robinson came down with just the six games 174 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: on precedent you kind of wish, and Greg to your 175 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: point earlier this week that Goodell then came in and 176 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: be like, well, that's fair, but everything else that she 177 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: found backed up what we thought establishing the precedent as 178 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: the commissioner, and I am dropping the indefinite suspension and 179 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: if you want to take us the court, do it. 180 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: But this is what we feel like the league needs 181 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: to do to get caught up and be in the 182 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: right place on this. Now, maybe they feel confident that 183 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: this person New Jersey Eternal General Attorney General Peter C. Harvey, 184 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: who's hearing the appeal, will be of like mind to 185 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I would think they do. I think 186 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: they have their ducks. I mean, they've been meticulous about 187 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: how they want to handle this. The the NFL that 188 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: that's how this is gonna end up. That's what I 189 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be. Now it's going to be 190 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: the year or indefinite. But but then then it gets 191 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: tossed into federal court. If if it's supposed to be, 192 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: first of all, the NFL p A had to file, 193 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, potentially their appeal. They're not going to do that, 194 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: um this week. It's supposed to be a relatively abbreviated 195 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: process that that he'll hear this. And Mike Florio and 196 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the final answer, but 197 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: he he's a lawyer. He believes strongly, and he thinks 198 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: it's definite that Watson six game suspension after the NFL 199 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: p A decided not to appeal, that is upheld that 200 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: any potential push to federal court would kick the can 201 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: to week seven, and that would basically be the playing 202 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: field that they would be battling for that there's no 203 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: way he would be accept that the exactly they're accepting 204 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: that he will be playing in the preseason apparently two, 205 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: which is also just strange branch the whole thing. Jacoby 206 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Brissette of course in line to start games for the 207 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: Browns perhaps the whole season depending on how this plays out, 208 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: of course, will continue to follow the story. Uh. The 209 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: NFL season kind of sort of got underway um this 210 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: week on Thursday with the Hall of Fame game and 211 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Ken it was a Raiders seven to eleven win over 212 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: the Jagures Mark, I imagine you were tuned in for 213 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: every second of action. What was your biggest take many 214 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: of the seconds? Uh? First of all, I think it's 215 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: so funny because there's a ton of articles out there 216 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: reviewing the game, and we know that the tangibly the 217 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: game means very little, but it's just the excitement that 218 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: football is back. It gets so much focused and so 219 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: I like that. Like it's on NBC, it's got treated 220 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: like a true prime to me, I remember your boy 221 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Mike and Chris kind of was wonderful. The I remember 222 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: in our a t n blogging days being tasked with, 223 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, covering that game, and you end up writing 224 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: like words because it's football and the announcers are there 225 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: and and there's all the discussion and then somebody pops out, 226 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: like last year was Michael parsons Um and Cowboys. This 227 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: year it is Trayvon Walker. That's not my take as 228 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: so much as it's uh no, Trayvon Walker looked. I mean, 229 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: it's just you wanted to see something if you're the 230 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars or a fan of the team, and you did. 231 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: Uh that's the Raiders struggled. They gave up five sacks 232 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: on Josh Jacobs. I think this was one of the 233 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: bigger storylines that Josh McDaniel, who's gonna do things differently. 234 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: We know that coming from the Patriots way had Josh 235 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: McDaniels in theory. They're starting running back out there for 236 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: the first two series. He ran hard, he ran a lot, 237 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: but they've got Zamir White as well, and so I 238 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: think you see that that's a one battle. Look at 239 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: with with with las Vengeans played all their running backs. 240 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: This was this is like overreactive because I saw but 241 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: I hate overreactive preseason usage season like, oh, they he 242 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: must hate Josh Jacobs he's playing. It's like, no, every 243 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: coach is a little different, and Josh McDaniels is coming 244 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: from the Belichick school of every year he approaches preseason 245 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: snaps differently than the year before, in different week to week, 246 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: and there's no point even reading into it. He might feel, 247 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, let's play Jacobs this week and then 248 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: he's not going to play the rest of the preseason, 249 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: or he thinks I want to get all the running 250 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: backs some snaps because I'm just like looking at it, 251 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: and that's what he did. He still put Jacobs out 252 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: there first, so it's just impossible to like know what 253 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: any of that means. But we can't say Jacobs look 254 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: good fifth year option. They drafted his replacement in theory 255 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: and Von Walker was my one really my one takeaway 256 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh that was spicy, kind of like Michael 257 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: Parsons a year ago. There you go, no free lunch 258 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: for Josh Jacobs at the stage of the game. He's 259 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: got to earn his playing time. We'll see it look 260 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: like a Josh McDaniel's offense for what it's where it's 261 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: like crackback blocks and they're great, great screen. Uh, maybe 262 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: I'm saying it wrong, but you know, with like that 263 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: they got the pulling not exactly no, that's not exactly 264 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: up sort of like the smash blocks is really what 265 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: I thinks that the game reminded me of Paris and 266 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: the forties. Just a beautiful place that's a perfect parallel 267 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: time to be alive. I think crack back was the 268 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: correct term. It was. A crackback block is a blocking 269 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: scheme element where a player split out wide or yeah, 270 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: you're using you're using those read you know those receivers 271 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: and just every everything Paris in the thirties, twenties, twenties twenties, 272 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: the screen game. Finally in the news, Steelers have making 273 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: us look dumb, have said, yeah, we do want to 274 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: do a contract with Deante Johnson two years, thirty six 275 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: point seven one million, seven million and guarantees. So Johnson 276 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: was holding in at Steelers camp. Uh, turns out he's 277 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: doing it because they were working on a contract and 278 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: they get it done. Mark, So we we talked about 279 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: Deanti Johnson and his abilities, and now they have a guy, 280 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: and I guess it's you know, teams evolved. Steelers are 281 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: a well run organization. It's post Ben Roethlisberger. Now they 282 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: have some extra money. With the quarterback situation the way 283 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: it is, so makes sense keep a guy in the 284 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: building that you like a lot. I think what we 285 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: were saying to was um not to self edit, but 286 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: where he's not going to get one of these monster contracts. 287 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: The reporting was that they were really far apart at 288 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: the beginning of August, and they found a way to 289 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: slot him in between Michael Thomas's previous contract and what 290 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk got for average per year, And so I 291 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: think it's a win for the Steelers. They it's it's 292 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: really only outside of Hines Warden Antonio Brown, the third 293 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: receiver's got a multi year second contract with the Steelers. 294 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't do this, And it tells you 295 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: that Omar Cohn, the new GM, although Kevin Colbert was 296 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: his mentor for so long, is unafraid to go do 297 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: things a little bit differently. I agree, And I also 298 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: would say the deal doesn't happen unless Deante Johnson is 299 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: willing to play ball and ultimately take the bird in 300 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: the hand, take the short money now. And I would 301 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: do the same thing personally if I was somehow in 302 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Deante Johnson's um situation. You know, he's a mid round 303 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: draft pick who's making um. You know, it sounds like 304 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: a high concept comedy that I would watch. But maybe 305 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: into the body of Steelers Wide said, here's a take 306 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: well below market deal because it because it's only two years. 307 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: That's the key. Take well, blow market, not mess around, 308 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: get the life changing money now and be a free 309 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: agent very soon because the Steelers weren't gonna pay market value. 310 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: And that's fine. That that's good. Everyone's happy. Steelers doing 311 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: smart moves, just like you love how much has been 312 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: making he was he was over. I think it. Yeah, 313 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: so that you can you can do that. You got 314 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: that window, remember our window quarterback window talk. We love. 315 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: They could spend, they could be aggressive elsewhere in the roster. 316 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Right now, t J. Watt's got the big money. Absolutely, 317 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: you're right there. They're saving at quarterback. Um, all right, 318 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. We're just getting started here. 319 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: We have, by the way, a very very special guest, 320 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: one of our favorite people at the end of the show. 321 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: But coming up next after the break, we're going to 322 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: have the Nights. What did I called it? And I 323 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: don't remember anymore. The night's round table, Nights of the 324 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: round table, templar round tables. We're gonna talk with the 325 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: X those experts, Jordan Rodrigue and JB. Long up next. 326 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Here's the snap, here's the n The Bengals will not 327 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: call it time out, the sidelines, empty rings for the Rams. 328 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: A Lombardi Trophy for Los Angeles. Al Right there it 329 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: is the call by the voice of the Rams that 330 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: we're very happy to have him. JB. Long also joining 331 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: us from the Athletic one of the great beat reporters 332 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: in our league. Jordan Rodrigue, Welcome back both of you too. 333 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: Around the NFL. Let's start conversation about these Rams. And 334 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: you have to start the conversation with Matthew Stafford, the 335 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: quarterback who is going to be out of practice for 336 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. Sean McVeigh said on Thursday that Stafford 337 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: is dealing with an elbow injury that is quote a 338 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: tricky deal. Also said that it's abnormal for a quarterback. Jordan, 339 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: is this something we should be working? But I also 340 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: would say that this issue, um, it was a known 341 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: issue last year, it's an ongoing issue and it's a 342 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: known issue in the spring as they tried some non 343 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: surgical treatments. It's a known issue entering O T A S. 344 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: It's a known issue entering training camp. So when you're 345 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: seeing the onload dload schedule, UM, it's not indicating indicating 346 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: a setback. This is something that they thought, well, we 347 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: have to try it this way. UM. Now I don't 348 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: know specifically the nature of the injury itself. UM showing 349 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: face comments yesterday to me were striking, and that he 350 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: mentioned he never dealt with something like this, specifically with 351 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback. He also declined to UM agree that it 352 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: was tendonitis. He made it sound a little bit different 353 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: than that, and he he talked about it in terms 354 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: of a baseball injury less so a or back and dren. 355 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: He said that the team is sort of figuring it 356 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: out also as they go in terms of this new 357 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: treatment strategy that he's on. But this has been an 358 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: overarching theme since basically they stepped off the field in February, 359 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: or stepped off the parade buses a week later, or 360 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: stumbled off the parade buses a week later, and it's 361 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: been a known issue. And so I think that when 362 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: you're looking at it. Yes, there is concerned, but there's 363 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: also the nuance of they are on schedule with the 364 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: premeditated plan that they had for him coming in, and 365 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: I expect him to unload back up in Thousand Oaks 366 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of away from from eyeballs and all of that. 367 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: Um when they start really installing in Earnest for I 368 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: would just ask this because you know that that was 369 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: an interesting comment that he never dealt with that as 370 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: a coach, because you've seen everything. He's been around for 371 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: a long time. Is the medical staff, um, if it's 372 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: it's new to them and uncharted, is there a fair 373 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: concern about where you are come November December? Or is 374 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: that just we don't know? I agree, I think so, yeah, 375 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: because and char McVeigh kind of was more blunt about 376 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: this than I expected in terms of the idea that 377 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to control every variable right now, as many 378 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: variables as they can possibly control, because they know that 379 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: come that time of year, so much of this will 380 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: be out of their control. So I think what their 381 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: strategy is is how much can we manage right now? 382 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: How much of this situation can we control every piece 383 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: of and study and track every piece of with their 384 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: sports science department. I mean, you see Matthew out there 385 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: with Zach Witherspoon every single day as the early sports scientists. 386 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: So that tells me that they're tracking every single data 387 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: point that they can because they know they're not going 388 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: to be able to during that time year and they 389 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: can't say for sure whether the pain will increase or 390 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: decrease or what. They don't know. Well, he is throwing 391 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: and it's not all just like easy throws. He saw 392 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: him out there out here on Thursday and he's throwing 393 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: the ball and it looks pretty good. But it's a 394 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: pretty good, big concern the pain. That the word pain 395 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: is the problem. The fact that they got a procedure 396 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: done this offseason and that he's still feeling pain and 397 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: it's a problem. We also might not hear of it 398 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: once it gets to week one. You may never hear 399 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: it again because they're just not going to talk about it. 400 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: But of course that's a concern. JB. Like looking at 401 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: what they did last year. Schematically, you're a big x 402 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: is and those guys this is actually a heavy hitters 403 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: here in terms of like xs and those breakdown between uh, 404 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: you you and Jordans like you go as deep as 405 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: anyone now definitely not. Uh Like, what do you think 406 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: schematically they're gonna do forgetting the elbow injury this year 407 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: to evolve this offense, because I think people from the outside, 408 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: including myself, we're probably a little surprised how far they 409 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: went away from the traditional Sean McVeigh type of offense 410 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: that we had grown used to for for four years 411 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford, Like where do you think that goes 412 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: in Jordan too, like x As and those wise and 413 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: how they want to like change this year because they're 414 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: not gonna stay the same. Yeah, well, let me say 415 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: two quick things about the injury and then I'll try 416 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: and land on this scheme stuff so that you can 417 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: take it from there. First Matthew specifically, I'm not sure 418 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: and it's like with like like that was amazing? Is 419 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: that what your partner feels like? I'm just nodding my 420 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: head in respect. It was incredibul m Jordan and JB 421 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: coming through. I feeling so valued. Writers don't get this. 422 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: Uh So I was gonna start by saying I don't 423 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: think anyone's more proven, especially not at that position, than 424 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford at pain management and playing through bumps and bruises. 425 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: Like Matthew Stafford, SEC has been good enough to win 426 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: on Sundays and even to win UH Championship. Remember one 427 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: of the most famous play through injury moments in the 428 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: last twenty years, shoulders out, shoulders out with the Lions. 429 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: The guy's tough as nails. But I I will acknowledge 430 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: the legitimate concern um and at this time of year, 431 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be talking about this issue if that wasn't shared. 432 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: And if there's a through line to Sean mcveigh's success 433 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: over these five years, five winning campaigns. They've won a 434 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: lot of games on Sunday, but they've also won a 435 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: whole lot of Friday afternoons. And what I mean by 436 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: that is their injury fortune and Reggie Scott, VP of 437 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: of Sports Medicine, their whole team has had the top 438 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: of their roster available on game day. I think as 439 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: often or more often than any team in the National 440 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Football always high and that adjusted games loss and you 441 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: can't overstate that in terms of scheme, You're right. I 442 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: mean I was talking with cam akers Rams running back 443 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: yesterday about remember when he went off at so fi 444 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: stad Hum against the Patriots. That was kind of his 445 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL moment. I went back and looked 446 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: at some of those highlights and like was characteristic of 447 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: the Jared goff Ram's offense. He was under center, Cam 448 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: was in the dot and that was kind of their 449 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: format for the better part of their tenure. And one 450 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: year they've totally revamped that where now the Rams went 451 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: from no gun runs to a very broad staple of 452 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: their offense the offset gun and Matthew Stafford often preferring 453 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: to operate out of empty The difference this year as 454 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: they continued to assemble the pieces around him too, I 455 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: think leverage that to its ultimate potential. And I'm sure 456 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this is Allen Robinson and Matthew Stafford 457 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: has had talents like in his past, but McVeigh with 458 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: the Rams has not. And I think that's gonna have 459 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: a ton of benefits, especially finishing drives in the red 460 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: zone and if you can layer in O b J 461 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: in November or beyond on top of that look out. 462 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: I think that's the next evolution of this offense. Yeah, 463 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: it's really interesting watching how it changed from one I 464 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: always refer to seaw McVeigh as a heart on his 465 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: sleeve play caller, like he is the play sheet. He 466 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: puts himself into that. And I'm not trying to, you know, 467 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: write an article here in real time, but like that, 468 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: really it really is, it really is what he is. 469 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: So you see the facets of his personality come out 470 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: by the way he designs plays, not necessarily by the 471 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: way he calls plays, although on fourth down we could 472 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: argue that, but also like the way that the layers manifest, right, 473 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: and you saw him um almost overcorrect in some ways 474 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: they didn't, you know, with some of the things that 475 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: they were doing out of the out of the gun 476 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: and some of the drop back passing and limiting the 477 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: play actions specifically for under center when they we're going 478 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: play action, they were also going gun action, which they'd 479 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: never done in the Jared Gop Sean McVeigh era, because 480 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: it was that that sense of everything opening up in 481 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: front of the quarterback and then allowing the quarterback to 482 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: make the decision post snap instead of sort of like 483 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: laying up what I think is a very valuable cheat code, 484 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: but one that they became so dependent on. So you 485 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: almost saw him overcorrect. Um personally and in some of 486 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: the ways that he was designing this offense. And I 487 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: think what they want this offense to look like in 488 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: its fullest manifestation is a high pass volume offense with 489 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: a really solid, explosive run game, with running backs who 490 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: can work out of the backfield and be threats in 491 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: the passing game. And you've definitely seen that so far 492 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: here in camp. You saw that in in trickles, in phases, 493 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily maybe the run game last year they had 494 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: to do a bunch of different things because of injuries, 495 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: but specifically with the past game, they want the ball 496 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: in Matthew Stafford's hands as much as possible, not to 497 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: not to sort of downgrade the run game at all 498 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: because it will still be such a huge factor, but 499 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: they want Matthew Stafford throwing the ball. And so that's 500 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: where we kind of come back with this arm thing, 501 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: this elbow thing. You know it does that kind of 502 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: raises the concern level a little bit, because I do 503 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: expect this to continue to expand you're going to continue 504 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: to see the empty sets. You're gonna continue to see, yes, 505 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: the motions in the screens that Sean McVeigh loves to do. 506 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: But but man, you're going to see them spread out 507 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: the field, not just horizontally but vertically with what Alan 508 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Robinson can do. It's a tricky need a little thread 509 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: with the Rams, of course have accomplished and how they've 510 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: built this team, and you're gonna see and you're already 511 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: seeing teams trying to copycat because listen, we're at the 512 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: home of the champions right now. But the Stafford issue 513 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: with the elbow, and you look at their secondary with 514 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and then some question marks. You look at 515 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, a veteran in his thirties, Aaron Donald now 516 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: a veteran in his thirties. This thing could go sideways 517 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: very quickly because it's a very top heavy, star veteran team, 518 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: and he concerns about that coming off a long season, 519 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: maybe as an employee can answer that, but coming off 520 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: the season where they play, the company can definitely answer that. Yeah, 521 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: where do you come down with that? JB. Is that 522 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: is that something that you feel like this team could 523 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: they handle injuries? Are they more susceptible and more danger 524 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: right now as a result of the way they're built. 525 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: It feels like deja vu. All over again. Being here 526 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: last year, I remember hearing the criticism about a top 527 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: heavy roster. It was not from your specific but no 528 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: Mark is a top ten global NFL insider insider. He 529 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: also a huge Rams guy like loves the NFL's connection 530 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: with the Rams and loves you. I'm so happy right now. 531 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: I even got to hear a staying live like I'm 532 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: so happy. I think what last year taught me is 533 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: just how profound appreciation you have to have for the 534 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: stars needing to align in so many regards for a 535 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: moment like that to happen at so Fi Stadium. Everything 536 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: from the Broncos being willing to trade von Miller and 537 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: O b J getting out of Cleveland and make himself 538 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: available post deadline is Robert Woods tears in a c 539 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: L to having a future Hall of Fame safety down 540 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: the road two years into retirement in San Diego, who's 541 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: been watching and studying your scheme and can step in 542 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: and play just about every meaningful snap throughout the postseason. 543 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: I think there's a valid case to be made that 544 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: this roster, this team could beat last year's team. I 545 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: think last year they may have been a year ahead 546 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: of schedule, especially with respect to Stafford and McVeigh on 547 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: the weapons they've assembled around him. Now with the schedule 548 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna face, does that mean they're gonna have as 549 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: good a record, win as many games, are go as 550 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: deep as they did. Uh, No, of course not. But 551 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's because they're top heavy. I think 552 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: to capture the sense of urgency and to have all 553 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: of the good fortune from the football's bouncing their way, 554 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: um to getting the sleeper agent of the San Francisco 555 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: forty Niners into the postseason to clear out the Cowboys 556 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: and Packers, like you can't replicate that will never happen again. 557 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean also like they go get these big names, 558 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: but they work out. I mean Matthew Stafford worked out, 559 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham in time worked out, and Allen Robinson. Can 560 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: we overstate I've seen some of your tweets. You said 561 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: some jaw dropping, your draw dropped to the grass. I 562 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: think at one point Jordan's back. Can we overstate how 563 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: well this is working out so far? Yeah? I mean, 564 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm as you guys know. You know the nature of 565 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: my job is to be a bit skeptical, right, and 566 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: to not overreact to things and to sort of dig 567 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: in deeper and see moment by moment what's happening. I've 568 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: got to tell you, like the hype is real on 569 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson and it's it's in May. I'm standing there 570 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: at O T A S. And Matthew Stafford is not throwing, 571 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: and they're running through install and Allen Robinson is moving through. 572 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: And again, when you look at an all twenty two 573 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: view of what this offense is and how the route 574 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: layers spread out and how they sort of um interconnect 575 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: with each other, you see him doing it like he's 576 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: not new. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh 577 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: my god, this guy could play a game for them tomorrow. 578 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: And then I'm sitting there it's May, What am I doing? 579 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Who have I become? And I'm sitting there thinking this 580 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: is going to be so special? And it has been 581 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: special every single day, even on the days where you 582 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: can tell they're um sort experimenting with each other with 583 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: the ball placement and they're figuring out leverages, and they're 584 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: figuring out the way that Alan likes to catch and 585 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: the way that Matthew likes to throw, and some of 586 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: the timing stuff, and and sometimes that leads to the 587 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: turnovers or the drop passes or whatever. But you can 588 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: see the um collaboration and it's it's very similar to 589 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: how he and Cooper Cup collaborated on this offense last 590 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: year all through the spring, literally drawing plays in the 591 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: grass after practice, and I think it's it's so special 592 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: And and when you think about the addition here and 593 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: talking about the the guys that have worked out, there's 594 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: also when the Rams are targeting these players, it's not 595 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: want tune, Like they're not just saying, oh, that guy 596 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: seems pretty good, Like they do have a analytical study 597 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: of the top tier guys who they will pursue, and 598 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: they value, you know, how much capital can we push 599 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: in on that specific tier of player because they know 600 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: the expectation with the middle and the bottom part of 601 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: the roster is those guys have to bring up everybody 602 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: with them, not just schematically in the course of snap 603 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: to snap, but in the locker room, in the film room, 604 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: the expectation is those guys are brought up with them. 605 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: And that's every single player, even some of the more 606 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: controversial additions they've made in the last couple of years, 607 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: who have done nothing but proved that they're that type 608 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: of person as well, kind of like Ricky Hollywood has 609 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: a there is I was wondering if you guys came 610 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: to try and get Ricky back so that, yes, we 611 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: share it with you. Dan, you probably want to sit 612 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: down with less need and give him your will fuller pitch, right, 613 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: because the Rams are well you've mentioned fuller because we 614 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: brought up fuller on the podcast this week when the 615 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys had a hit to their depth chart, and then 616 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Greg Astuteley brought up O'Dell Beckham Cowboys, that's meant to be? 617 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: And then I hear JB. Long, who's totally plugged in 618 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: to this building, almost speaking earlier, as if Dell's you 619 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: know he's gonna materialize down the line? Is that the 620 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: expectation around this team in your mind that Odell's gonna 621 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: be here. Cam Akers doesn't think thinks that he took 622 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: a number. I will stay out the Odell Beckham Junior 623 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: prediction business. I I don't think. I think there are 624 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: good vibes on both sides. But there's also what thirty 625 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: one other teams who will have a say in that, 626 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: and presumably have some time to have a say it 627 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: is fascinating, like if Robinson ends up being as good 628 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: as you as like we think he might be, like 629 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: that it ended up being a von Miller for Allen 630 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: Robinson trade, Like if von Miller took that money, Allen 631 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: Robinson probably uh wouldn't be here. And though they find 632 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: a way to figure everything out, right, that's that's true too. 633 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: And just before I know, you guys have to work 634 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: and stuff. But I'm thinking sort of about this division 635 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: two as a whole, and if it was also curious 636 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: for Jordan's answer to the Odell Beckham, what do you curiosity? Okay, 637 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: we're okay, we're back there. Give us one second. We 638 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: do have time. Also, I mean, I can't speak for you, 639 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: but um, I love being here. So if you you're 640 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to actually Crowbar can't possibly get Um. I think, 641 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: like Jamie said, I think there's very good vibes on 642 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: both sides. I think this is one of those things 643 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: that and I repeat this, you know rams fans and 644 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: readers and subscribers. No, I repeat this altogether too often. Um, 645 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: multiple things are true at the same time about this situation. 646 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: Like I personally am optimistic that this is something that 647 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: that works out longer term. I don't expect O'Dell to 648 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: be back um until like November ish, so there's not 649 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: really a timeline on this. Well, at the same time, 650 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: it's another truth that he has every right and should 651 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: do what's best for himself and his family. So I 652 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: think that he seamlessly fits back in with this group. 653 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: They stay in contact with him. Um. You know, he 654 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh is like publicly wooing him and every chance 655 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: he gets, and you know Odell was at Shawn's wedding. 656 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's like, you know, there's good vibes, right, 657 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: But but at the same time, multiple truths like yes, 658 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: I can see him fitting in UM and making an 659 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: impact because like I said, they do hope by that 660 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: time of year to continue to be a high volume 661 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: passing attack, right barring any sort of setback or elbow 662 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: flying off into the sun or whatever. And so at 663 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: that point I do see him fitting in. I see 664 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: a role for him. I see UM some flexibility perhaps 665 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: on the second year of such an offer, versus maybe 666 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: some incentive heavy stuff on the first year. And I 667 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: also think that at the same time Adell very rightfully 668 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 1: should do what's best for him, whether that's emotionally being 669 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: here and sort of settling in Los Angeles, um maybe 670 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: like full time, or whether it's someone else you know, 671 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: gives him a huge offer that he can't and shouldn't 672 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: refuse because you need to make sure that you're taking 673 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: care of your family is taken care of. Do you 674 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: think they make some of these moves with the forts 675 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: in mine? It looks like a two team division to me, 676 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: and Sean mcveigh's offense has struggled against the forty Niners. 677 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: They won this. I think it's gotten a little overlook 678 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: that they really won the Super Bowl because of the defense. 679 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: More it's a team game. But if you have to 680 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: apportion credit, this is a team that embarrassed the Cardinals, 681 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: embarrassed Tom Brady until the you know, the Rams started 682 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: fumbling every time held the forty Niners and the teams 683 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: and kept getting the ball back in the Super Bowl 684 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: because in part because they haven't had answers for the 685 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: forty Niners in the regular season on offense, Like how 686 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: much do you think this battle between Shanahan and McVeigh 687 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: plays into their off season thinking and like how do 688 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: you see that going this year? Because it seems very important. 689 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to hear you call it a two team 690 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: division because given the way last year ended with the 691 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: heroics at SOFI Stadium Week eighteen and then also in 692 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, I was surprised when the schedule 693 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: came out and the Rams and the Niners are done 694 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: by Halloween like there their games are early UM, which 695 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: usually says that that's not how the league necessarily sees 696 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: the division playing out. It may have just been a 697 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: scheduling quirk, but in terms of answers to the Niners, 698 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: how about Bobby Wagner? Because the way this division plays, 699 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: the Rams have absolutely wiped the Cardinals right. The Seahawks 700 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: have had the forty Niners number, and the Niners have 701 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: had good success more than any other team in the 702 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: division against the Rams. But if I'm if I'm not mistaken. 703 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: Now every remnant of the Super Bowl team in Seattle 704 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: is now gone, with Russell Wilson going to Denver and 705 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner being here, and I it's such a departure 706 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: from their team building model. Jordan to invest in a 707 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: veteran future Hall of Fame off ball linebacker that's typically 708 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: UM a salary cap corner that they would cut that. 709 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: I think they saw something special there. Um. Not necessarily 710 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: to solve the San Francisco conundrum, though I do think 711 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: he will help in that regard. And I'll just had 712 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: one other thing because we haven't talked about. Despite not 713 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: having a top one pick in the draft, I think 714 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: they have found some starters again on defense, especially in 715 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: their secondary. Given the quarterbacks in the offenses they're gonna 716 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: face on this championship schedule, you can never have enough corners, 717 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: but especially here. And give us the names. What are 718 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: the names? Darian kendrickbe durant Uh seeing some good things 719 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: from Rush East. Um. Although they're so safety and I 720 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: mean they've got they came in thinking, oh, corner is 721 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: a position of concern. In the draft, they leaned on 722 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: what they do best. They found a ton of guys 723 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: who are maybe perhaps overlooked in some areas of athletic 724 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: testing or UM certain phases of the standard draft process. UM. 725 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: They run them through these personality tests to determine like 726 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: whether they're a culture fit for specifically what they're going 727 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: to ask them to do. UM. And then they show 728 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: up Day one and they start to ball and it's 729 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, like this kid, Darrion Kendrick. He's matched 730 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: up against Allen Robinson in the red zone and holding 731 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: his own and this is this is something to watch. 732 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: And they traded for Troy Hill. They got Troy Hill 733 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: back in Los Angeles where he played his best football. 734 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: Could prove to be for this year. The most important 735 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: thing they did on draft weekend. They seem to have 736 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: their act together. They seem to and if if Jordan's 737 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: as good as I know she is in terms of 738 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: her writing ability, yeast rises has to be in the 739 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: mix at some point. And it's been used, you know, 740 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: but I did. If you guys have a second to like. 741 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: JB made a great point about the Bobby Wagner edition 742 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: because I think ultimately what ends up beating the Niners 743 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: late in the season when they had to get through 744 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: them to get to the Super Bowl is something that 745 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: goes so underlooked through the course of the history of 746 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: the modern history of this team, and that is Raheem 747 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: Morris and Sean McVeigh. They completely unpacked the defense they 748 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: had spent the last two and a half years evolving 749 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: that nobody else was playing. They completely unpacked. It went 750 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: totally opposite by dropping the safety down, Eric Weddle, dropping 751 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: the safety down specifically built the entire defense in one 752 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: week to stop the run. That's it, That's all they 753 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: were gonna do. So that agility is not something they 754 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: had in ten when they came up against similar problem 755 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: solving issues. I will say politely, um, they didn't have 756 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: that agility. So agility got them over the hump. Here 757 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: and Bobby Wagner as somebody who continues to expand that 758 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: agility with the multiplicity of what you can do, not 759 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: for what your team is doing, what the scheme and 760 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: the design per game can be, they deserved the benefit 761 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: of the doubt. Mean, what else do we need to see? 762 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: What else we need to hear? You've said it all, 763 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: Jordan and j B. Thank you this RAMS round table. 764 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: Mark has a rasp from all this. It is such 765 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: a narrative like I it's a beautiful day out. This 766 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: team just won the secret narratives for the grape nuts 767 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: of the national football And because that's right, that's right. 768 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: Are you know? The question is not whether or not 769 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: the Rams or right for you? Forget about me. Are 770 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: you right for you? And our families. JB sitting in 771 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: the park together having wine and cheese. You incessly sitting 772 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: one on one in a restaurant chopping it up. I 773 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: like that. Well, various personalities have come on this show 774 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: and not given Mark his d He's trying to correct that, 775 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: and that's fair. I'm not try right at Kyle Brandt, 776 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: but I'm kind of calling back. Kyle owned it. He 777 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: took the l on that, but it happened, and we 778 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: can't ignore it. You're taking the road less traveled, and 779 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna benefit you in terms of our friendship. All Right, 780 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: you guys have a lot more work to do today, 781 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: but we thank you for taking some time and I 782 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: hope to have you on again the days. Thank you. 783 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: Thank you to H E. T. N and everything you 784 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: guys have met to my NFL experience on and off 785 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: the air. You guys are the best, the best. Thank 786 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: you guys. All Right, there we go. I love those 787 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: two people. Great, great conversation there. And one thing we 788 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: didn't get to, gentlemen that I want to throw out 789 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: there with the Rams after that trade deadline, they faced 790 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks Tom Brady, Kyler, Murray, Patrick Mahomes, Derek Carr, 791 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Justin Herbert. I want to put 792 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: a season a sandwich out there right now that Aaron 793 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: Donald's gonna get some more help in the pass rush 794 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: via trade deadline, a splashy acquisition, because that that does 795 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: profile as a tricky situation there for this team and 796 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: a team that loves to make a splash move. It's 797 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting year because, like we were saying, 798 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: like so many things went right to win last year, 799 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: you're asking all those things to go right again. I 800 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: think this team is gonna need help when it's the 801 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: presence of for each of these NFC West teams having 802 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: to deal with the a f C West, because half 803 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks you talked about are sitting in the 804 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: a f C West. It takes their schedule, and if 805 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: you're in the global view of the NFC, you're loving 806 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: if you're the other three divisions, what the NFC West 807 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: has to deal. I mean, there there's not a cloud 808 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: in the sky, but Dan's bringing the gray gloom and doom. 809 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: Here was the last back to back champion in our league. Well, sure, 810 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: no team has more than what a fifteen chance of 811 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: winning the Super ball. It's gonna be tough. That that 812 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: is absolutely true. Uh, it's it's the elbow thing that 813 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: worries me. I like that at that point. On the defense, 814 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: it's a good prediction because they are awfully thin in 815 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: terms of their outside pass rush. I know they feel 816 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: like they can generate it and they got Leonard Floyd 817 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: and like things work out usually, but they are they 818 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: are rather thin. They did not replamember our first edition 819 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: of Training Camp Whispers when I brought up Matthew Stafford's 820 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: elbow and Greg's like, you're a fool. Why would you 821 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: even bring it up? And it was it was so 822 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: the ssmissive that Graver had to take it out of 823 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 1: the shape that you just made something up poll clock. 824 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: That was like just wasn't that? It was like Steven 825 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: Ross statement, like you're just making your own reality. Um, 826 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: all right, good stuff great. J B and Jordans both 827 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: know their stuff. So I hope you the listener, UH 828 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Um. Coming up next after the break, Jordan 829 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: talked about Allen Robinson and the raves he's been getting 830 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: and people are coming up to her without her inquiring, 831 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: saying this, Allen Robinson is gonna be insane this season 832 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: where we're gonna have Allen Robinson right next to us 833 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: and we're gonna ask him about his debut season with 834 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: the Rams right after this. All right, welcome back as promised. Uh, 835 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: two huge pieces added to the Rams. Everybody talks about 836 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner on the defensive side of the ball. On 837 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, it is Alan Robinson 838 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Welcome to her in the NFL. Appreciate it, Man, 839 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: thanks for having How does it feel? Obviously everyone knows 840 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: what's going on in Chicago that that as a team 841 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: that's rebuilding, it's had some down seasons. Now you've come 842 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, you're all of a sudden part of 843 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: the defending champions. What's the vibe? The difference for you? Um? 844 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: You know, for me, Um, the difference is, I mean 845 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: there are different organizations obviously, but again for me, Man, 846 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: coming into here, you know, I wanted to be the 847 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: best player I can be, you know, and and you know, 848 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: like I said before, Man Um, playing alongside guys like Cooper, 849 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 1: playing alongside guys like Matthew A. D You know, when 850 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: you're playing with the best man, that brings the best 851 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: out of you. You know, and I've seen that even 852 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: from myself, you know, since I've signed here. You know, 853 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: just just how I approached the offseason, how approach coming 854 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: into camp, you know, on my day to day you know, 855 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: it's just continuing to challenge myself to get better. The 856 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: one I mean across the board, the early reviews on 857 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: how you fit into the offense, how you picked it 858 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: up quickly have been rave reviews. I mean, what what 859 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: was your approach from the minute you got the playbook 860 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: to now? I mean how because that's not true of 861 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: every player, that especially for wide receivers that go into 862 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: certain systems. Man, just taking advantage of everything you know 863 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: at my disposal, you know, being able to to to 864 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: play for coach McVeigh, you know, being able to play 865 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: with Matthew, with Cooper, like I said before, Man, just 866 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, leaning on those guys that I can learn 867 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: and grasp as much as possible, as fast as possible, 868 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: you know. And then on the on the other side 869 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: of that, which is continue to prepare myself physically for 870 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: the season. You know, that's taking this offseason, you know, 871 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: being able to to take the route concepts and things 872 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: that I learned in the spring then this summer being 873 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: able to get out on the grass and try to 874 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: perfect those in the time and different things like that. 875 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: You say, the vibe is different, Like your vibe right 876 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: now is definitely very l a very chill. You've got 877 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: the crocs on, but you've also got the crocs with 878 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: the little accoucherman to what are those called? They're like, 879 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: are you getting deep into you got the football? We 880 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: have a friend, you know, John Gonzalez, who loves adding 881 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: the little trinkets to the crocs. Are you getting deep 882 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: into that subculture? I am? I am. You know it's 883 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty cool additive, you know, to to 884 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: the crocks. You know. So whenever I go to the 885 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: store and grab something, I'll grab I'll grab a few pieces. 886 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: What's it like joining a new team, because we can 887 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: obviously we don't know what it's like, but you do 888 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: know if you start a new school or you know, 889 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: you have first you're starting at a new job, Like, 890 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: do you find people right away that you bond with 891 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: or is there a time where you kind of keep 892 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: to yourself? Is it difficult to transition doing new team? No, 893 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: it's not difficult at all. You know again, um, especially 894 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: if when you were a vet. You know again, um, 895 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of guys across the league, you know, 896 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: even like you know, um, me and A d was 897 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: in the same draft class, you know, Um Van Jefferson 898 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: went to my high school, you know, back in Detroit. 899 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: You know. So even for me knowing knowing Matthew a 900 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: little bit from when he played in Detroit, you know. So, 901 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a lot of different things 902 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: that kind of you know, come to fluition, you know, 903 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: when you go to different teams, you know, you know, 904 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: being a vetting things like that. You know, but it 905 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: hasn't been a tough transition at all. Do you ever, 906 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 1: you you know, Matthew Stafford, long long journey in Detroit, 907 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: You've been all over the place and and you never 908 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: had a Matthew Stafford playing quarterback with you. Do you 909 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: ever look at each other and just say this is 910 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: this is way better this situation right right here? Um again, man, 911 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: for me, you know, uh, it's a it's a blessing 912 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: to be able to with a quarterback like him, you 913 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: know again, I mean even even from me, you know, 914 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: growing up in Detroit, you know, and watching and watching 915 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: you know, him from Afar, you know, growing up and 916 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: seeing you know, how he was as a quarterback. Now 917 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,959 Speaker 1: being able to play with him, you know, it's been fun. Man. Again. 918 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean he's the person who comes in there every day, 919 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: you know, it comes to work, competes, you know, he 920 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: sees you know, everybody on the field. You know. So 921 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: it's it's fun and it's been excited. You're you're kind 922 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: of a football tape heads favorite. Throughout your career, You've 923 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: been in some spots, um where the production depended sometimes 924 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: on the offense around you. Sometimes it's huge. Uh do 925 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: you think that in this spot you're surrounded You mentioned 926 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. I'm sure he's one of these guys by 927 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: like a lot of like minded people. Yeah, you know 928 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: again that's that's what makes it special, you know again, um, 929 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: being around guys that are like minded in a sense 930 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: of you know, like I said before, the dedication or 931 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: did they put in you know, each and every day 932 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: Like I said before, when you're playing with great players 933 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: like that, man, it does nothing but challenge you to be, 934 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, as as good as you can be, you know, 935 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: and and again each and every day, you know, like 936 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: I said before, men if I don't know if anybody 937 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: has watched you know, his workouts or you know, they 938 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: don't allow us, you know, Cooper cut when he's working 939 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: out or and things like that. And when you're around 940 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, great guys like that man, Like I said before, 941 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: it brings the best out of you. So you're kind 942 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: of under the radar. And now you're gonna be with 943 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: the Rams. You know, you're playing kickoff game and you're 944 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: kind of known as you know, you're a quiet receiver 945 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: who goes about his business on the field. Now that 946 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: you're in l a any thoughts to like wrapping or 947 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: acting or maybe like a celebration after every first down 948 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: where you now, I just mean like where you like 949 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: embarrass the person that you are playing against and is 950 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: a family like just as a way to build your 951 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: brain's slightly psychotic, just to let you know if that's 952 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: no man again, for me, it's about going to getting 953 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: my work done. You know, at the end of the day, 954 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: everything has to take care of itself. You Like I 955 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: said before, Man, I came out here very focused, you know, 956 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: and and I want to continue to you know, not 957 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: only be that, but but continue to enhance my game, 958 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, and as cliche as it may sound, as 959 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: being the best player that you could be. You know, 960 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 1: for me, that's been my main for because you know, 961 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: since the dad step foot in this building, you know, 962 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: and that will continue to be my ultimate focus. Did 963 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh you know they were when when Odell Beckham 964 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: came to the Rams last year, was a lot of 965 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: chatter that he got on the phone with Oldell Beckham 966 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: and said, this is how you're gonna be used, this 967 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: is why the Rams fit you. Did he make special 968 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: pitches to you? Did he go out of his way 969 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: to make this the most attractive landing spot? Yeah? Again, 970 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: you know we we we spoke, you know, before we 971 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: um came to agreement on the deal. But again, I mean, uh, 972 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: I said this other day. But I don't think that 973 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: they knew that they had to sell me as much 974 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: as they you know, I mean I had been able 975 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: to to watch you know, his system and Matthew and 976 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: those guys from Afar, you know, for for for a 977 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: good little while, you know. So again they like this answer. 978 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: They like that Mark likes to think it was his 979 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: question that's gonna hi. I think it was from a 980 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: large friday of people here but yeah, you know, he 981 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: put on some tape and show how it will be 982 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: using things like that, you know, and and again you know, 983 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: I saw myself sitting there with all right, So last 984 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: question from Detroit. You were in Chicago, No for the 985 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: deep dish and it's the Midwest or the brat worst 986 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Here in southern California, Mexican is 987 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: huge as great food. What is the Detroit food? What 988 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 1: is the food from where you go out that's the best? 989 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: I would say, uh, and this may sound crazy to 990 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: some people, and I say it's all the time. You 991 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 1: gotta if you're ever in Detroit. They have Detroit style 992 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: pizza very popular. Now, wait a second, I love pizza 993 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: and pizza. Gotta tell me about Detroit pizza. It's not 994 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: quite deep dish, but it's more so kind of like pain. 995 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: Some people do it differently. Some people have a little 996 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: bit of a sauce on top. So I not. But 997 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: if you if you go to Detroit acts around, my 998 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: favorite is Jets Pizza. Shout out the Jets. Um. They 999 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: have a Detroit style pizza and A and and a 1000 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: few other spots, but Detroit style pizza is the way 1001 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: to go for sure l A has a few Detroit 1002 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: style pizza spots. Go do a little grubblup search you'll 1003 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: find it. Mark, You're way more knowledgeable on the subject. 1004 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: That's a guy has not a big food I I 1005 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: almost fought Detroit pizza the other Now I'm gonna do it. 1006 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm Allen Robinson. May you find great success, big numbers 1007 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: and plenty of Detroit style pizza here in Los Angeles. 1008 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: Best of lucky, Thank you, appreciate you. All Right, there 1009 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: goes Allen Robinson, and we are wrapping up our day 1010 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: here that you see Irvine, the home once upon a 1011 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: time of Amica Rosenthal. What a time she had. Maybe 1012 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: she fell in love for the first time here. I 1013 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: don't want to know about. Yeah, we'll have her on 1014 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: later to talk about I'm but before we leave, we 1015 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 1: could not we could not leave the Rams world without 1016 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,760 Speaker 1: talking to one of our favorite people in the world. 1017 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: She is on Mount Rushmore. Was one of the greats 1018 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: in the history of our show. Uh and now she 1019 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: is basically elevated beyond us as big time talent for 1020 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: the Rams. You know what I'm talking About's Ricky Hollywood Erica. 1021 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 1: What's up high? It's so good to see you guys. 1022 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: I know, yeh, Like it just feels like it's another podcast, 1023 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: except you're wearing Rams merch. Yeah that's not that far removed. Yeah, 1024 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: that's true. Now, it's definitely different, but far away from us? 1025 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: Is that? Do I take that symbolically to mean anything 1026 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: of any nature? I wouldn't. I wouldn't, but I mean 1027 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,479 Speaker 1: you can look into it however you want. What's going on, Ricky. 1028 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: You've been now with the with the Rams for about 1029 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: a month, right, Yeah, what are you doing? So? They 1030 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 1: have me doing a lot of stuff. I'm doing the 1031 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: Morning Minute, which has been doing really well on so 1032 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: Shart getting noticed by the fans over the Morning Minute. Yeah, yeah, 1033 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: exactly rams into every word um no um to Kobe. 1034 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: Kobe Durant came up to me and he's like, oh, 1035 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: you're the Minute lady. He's one of the bookies on 1036 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: our defense, which is great. Um. So yeah, it's been 1037 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: really good that we have a celebrity flag football match today. 1038 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: I actually convinced Rachel Bonetta to come down again, so 1039 00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: she's playing in that they about us we're here. I 1040 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: did actually pitch you guys and they passed. I know 1041 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: that what I did try. I did say, do you 1042 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: want me to reach out to any of the and 1043 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: I have cannons to the fortunate money to be in 1044 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: a flag football game. And I'm not worried about the 1045 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: other people, but I just want to be either on 1046 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: marks team or an opponent. Either way would be delightful. 1047 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: I would love Greg via Mark Gregg's lining up in 1048 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: the slot, Mark lining up as the nickel corner and 1049 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: let's just let's just jam them at the line of scrimmage. 1050 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: Let's rock dense press coverage. That's not happening. No, I 1051 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: don't think so, that's that's amazing. You're experiencing training camp 1052 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: in a way you're real like football football guy, now 1053 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 1: football girl. Like you're here literally every day. We've never 1054 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: been We've never like experienced training camp where you're like, 1055 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, no, it has been 1056 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: nice and has been great to be here every day, 1057 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: but yeah, no, it is a completely different experience to 1058 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: sort of being at the facility and with you know, 1059 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm staying at the players Hotel, so you know, getting 1060 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: coffee in the morning, really getting to Players Hotel, very 1061 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: nine breakfast, yep, Jim is great. There's also a player's 1062 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: gym that they like built in a ballroom for them 1063 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: as well. Um, do you have a nice Oh yeah, 1064 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: everything is everything, the arms, Yeah it was. It's been 1065 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: really great. But no, it's been awesome to be here, 1066 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 1: you know, every day in a way that I wouldn't before. 1067 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: You know, we've come down here together as a as 1068 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: a show and you sort of just see something. It's 1069 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: a walk through day today, you're not gonna see much regardless, 1070 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: but being on the inside and getting to experience this 1071 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: energy in a different way, and I'm really just loving. 1072 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: So you've got to know some of the players, I 1073 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: would imagine, because when they come on and talk to us, 1074 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: it's like the trio a bozos will get through this 1075 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: in six seven minutes. But when now you've built a 1076 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: relationship with some if any of them stood out as 1077 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: like I really like this person. I like to hang 1078 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 1: out with this player up firstly, Yeah, or someone who's 1079 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: been out but you can't get the real sc Yeah, 1080 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: I know. Everyone has been phenomenal and they just put 1081 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: their best foot forward. Every single day has been fun. Honestly, 1082 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 1: everybody here has such a unique personality. It's been really 1083 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: phenomenal to get to know each and everyone. He's great, 1084 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: he's great. It's got a great like you hang out, 1085 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: we have like a one on one. But yeah, I 1086 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh hey, I Tennisalbo in college. Like it 1087 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: got better than I got fired. Um No, it's been good. No, 1088 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean they have real personalities. Matt Gay the kicker 1089 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: actually is very very funny. Um, they said hi to 1090 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 1: my son. He was walking by and went out of 1091 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: his way to say hi. He's been he's been really, 1092 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: he's been really good. Um what else where can people like? 1093 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,240 Speaker 1: What can people expect from you in your first season? 1094 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: I know, I think it's very cool, Like in all seriousness, Um, 1095 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 1: you you were a producer and did such a great job, 1096 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 1: but we always felt and I know you felt the 1097 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: way way because you have such great ambition and drive 1098 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: that you wanted to do something more in the in 1099 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: front of the camera. Like what are you going to 1100 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: be able to do this year with the Rams? Well, 1101 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 1: it's been it's been phenomenal so far. I've used that 1102 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: word a lot. I'm gonna stop saying phenomenal. I know, 1103 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: I know, Um, I've started a lot. Who you guys 1104 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,919 Speaker 1: already spoke with j Blong and Jordan. I've been able 1105 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 1: to hang out with them every day and really kind 1106 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,919 Speaker 1: of dig in and it's so fun, you know, having 1107 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 1: Jordan's explained to me the difference between the defensive schemes 1108 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: that they're running, and I feel like I'm really learning 1109 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: a lot about this team specifically, which I love. But 1110 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: also I'm going to be doing. You know, I have 1111 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: a I'm interviewing Aaron Donald later today after practice. Um, 1112 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: I guess I could give an exclusive. I am dropping 1113 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: a podcast pretty soon on the Rams, so so check 1114 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: that out Around the Rams podcast Around the Rams. Yeah, exactly, exactly. 1115 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, just a bunch of social content. They 1116 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: also want me to do the Code of Conduct video 1117 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: that will play before every Rams game on the huge 1118 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: video board. Should we I guess we we should come 1119 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: clean to the Around the Rams podcast. It's Ricky Mark, 1120 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,399 Speaker 1: myself and Grave Digger as the producer. Oh my god, 1121 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: I love that sounds amazing. We were looking. We didn't 1122 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: know one to tell you. Graver misses the show. Lindsay 1123 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 1: Fulton is going to step right in. Yeah, an Erica, 1124 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: any commentary on Grave Digger. I know you've you've kept 1125 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: any year out for the show since you left, you 1126 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: think like one to tenant again, we're in the trust tree. 1127 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: We all know each other for so long. One to ten. 1128 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: How's Justin doing so far? Being honest, I think it's 1129 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 1: an eleven. I think he is such a perfect fit 1130 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: for the positive person. Now. I feel show have you 1131 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 1: listened to? I feel like I could count them on knowing? Yeah, yeah, 1132 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: one maybe one. Socially, did you go you're tracking the 1133 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: show closely? Yeah? No, no, no, no, I um, I 1134 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: did listen to actually your guys Watson um pod the 1135 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: whole thing. I did listen to that. I wanted to 1136 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 1: know your your take saw it. That was a real howler. Yeah, 1137 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,439 Speaker 1: Sean actually produced that one, so he didn't he didn't 1138 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:09,240 Speaker 1: even listen, right, Yes, No, I mean Justin's phenomenal again, 1139 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: phenomenal take a shot every time I say the um. 1140 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 1: But also, you know Justin has been editing and posting 1141 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: the show for a year when I was there, he's done, 1142 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: but you haven't checked it out, but you assume. No. 1143 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: I think he's a great. Fans seemed to love him. 1144 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: I think there wasn't a really you know, Big titoons 1145 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: present on the pod before and here's you guys are 1146 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: really hitting that. Finally, there's a big poster that arrived 1147 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 1: at the studio from a fan a few days ago 1148 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: and on the Mount Rushmore. Uh there were I believe 1149 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: six of them. Yeah, I supposed to be too many. 1150 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 1: I would argue, do you think did that strike you? Well, 1151 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: obviously you're on it in the image, um, along with 1152 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: t D, Zach Goldman, Irish, Crystal Rich k rich In 1153 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: las Cid. Oh yeah, Irish Brandon McGinnis. He looked in 1154 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: the picture. I thought it was like a young woman 1155 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: and I thought they were confused. He's got very keep 1156 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,439 Speaker 1: building bridges. Yeah, do you think that maybe it should 1157 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: have been cut down to four and perhaps just one? 1158 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, personally everybody has you know, their own was 1159 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: phenomenal as it was. I think you know you guys. 1160 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: I think our fans and our fans I speak for 1161 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: the last five years do a phenomenal job of finding 1162 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: bits and pieces to love about everybody. So there's plenty 1163 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: of room up there on the shoulders of great and 1164 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: I am it. I'm also liking that the Rams fans 1165 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: who like come up and then they look up for 1166 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: half a second. It is like, should we know these people, 1167 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: and then they're like now, and then they keep moving. 1168 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think, Erica, you were really proud 1169 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: of you and thank you. It's so it's so cool 1170 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: to see you take this next step and don't forget 1171 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: about us when you're delivering your Emmy speech. I feel 1172 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: like an Emmy. Maybe maybe that I've been talking to them. Actually, 1173 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: we're at a a little function last night and I 1174 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: was talking with them about potentially, you know, the draft 1175 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: video was such a hit. I was like, I really 1176 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: want to meet um. They have some like Netflix producers 1177 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: in town and stuff like. I'm like, I really need 1178 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: to keep working on my brand and I would love 1179 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: to be in the next video. Um. And and that 1180 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: didn't seem completely on the docket for for first steps, 1181 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: but I think we're making it. And also to it 1182 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: did give me a little bit of joy to see 1183 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: you guys walking over here, slipping your backpack, sweating as 1184 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: the golf cart drove me to drop me off. So 1185 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: I did get a little little bit of pleasure. Yes, Erica, 1186 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Good guys, Thank you everybody for listening. 1187 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday with another week of shows. 1188 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 1: Thank you to the Ramps. For having us. Thank you 1189 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: to everyone else for your support. Jordan's j B Allen Robinson. 1190 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: You guys, that was fun all right until Monday. You 1191 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 1: know you gotta do what you said. All the names, 1192 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: yeah you didn't say mine didn't started started lead with 1193 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood and especially Erica Tempose a k A. Ricky Hollywood, 1194 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Ricky phenomenal, certified phenomenal. Until Monday, we're all ramily dude, clutey, 1195 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: mark me too. He's a call