Speaker 1: What's up, We're back it slip service some angela Yee,
Speaker 1: I'm g G. Maguire, I'm Jeordie George and named Jerry Johnson. Yes, man, jump.
Speaker 1: They sound like a famous name already. It really yeah, period,
Speaker 1: I just your name when you were born, they were like, she's.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, my name was supposed to be
Speaker 2: Rashida okay, but when my my dad wasn't in the hospital,
Speaker 2: my dad's name is Jerry. This is gonna be crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna tell the whole story. But my dad's
Speaker 2: name is Jerry, and my grandfather was like, you should
Speaker 2: name her Jerry, and so then my mom said yes
Speaker 2: because she wanted my grandfather to approval. So then my
Speaker 2: name became Jerry Johnson. And at first I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't like this as the boy's name, and then
Speaker 2: I was like, it's just a rich I love it.
Speaker 1: I like names that are like, okay, like what's another
Speaker 1: name that could be, like, okay, Terry Jordan Jordan's. I
Speaker 1: felt the same way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted something very feminine actually, you know, like
Speaker 3: something more like looks.
Speaker 1: But then I really love my name. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, like, you don't know who's coming that
Speaker 1: part at all, like.
Speaker 2: And at the hotel they were like mister Johnson, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, right.
Speaker 1: Like sorry, you know what I love when I'm at
Speaker 1: the hotel with my boyfriend and they're like mister ye
Speaker 1: and he's like mister ye, and I'd be like, mister y,
Speaker 1: you better listen. This brings us to one conversation though,
Speaker 1: changing last names, because congratulations on your engagement and you
Speaker 1: proposed me. What was your heart feeling like when that happened.
Speaker 2: I was nervous the whole time because I'm also a perfectionist,
Speaker 2: and so I'm like, Okay, we're gonna do it. You know,
Speaker 2: I was planning the whole thing. And she was there,
Speaker 2: and she's a producer, and so you can't really get
Speaker 2: nothing as a producer. So I'm trying to produce this
Speaker 2: proposal to a producer, and I'm just like, you know
Speaker 2: what if she knows what's going on, is it's gonna
Speaker 2: be too much Because she also is not like a
Speaker 2: she don't always like to be in the forefront of things,
Speaker 2: and so I was nervous. But my sister was there
Speaker 2: and she knew what was going on, and I had
Speaker 2: this woman that I met at this other podcast that
Speaker 2: I did, who was from Jamaica, who like set up
Speaker 2: a bunch of things for me, and so it was
Speaker 2: nerve wrecking. But then when the moment happened, it was
Speaker 2: just like everything okay, okay, okay, okay okay, and she
Speaker 2: just was in tears. But then also the cameras were overwhelming,
Speaker 2: but we had to get the pick. It was just
Speaker 2: it was crazy, but it was it ended up being
Speaker 2: really nice and beautiful. And then I was like, let's
Speaker 2: stay in Jamaica for longer. So we extended the chest
Speaker 2: and I love Jamaica.
Speaker 3: So we sing yeah, okay when I say slamming killed, yes,
Speaker 3: you know, I love to take a little thigh out
Speaker 3: than a die. You gotta remind you posts well you
Speaker 3: reminded us.
Speaker 1: But congratulations, congratulations. Now last name, So did y'all have
Speaker 1: the last name discussion?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's probably gonna do a little hyphen it, you know,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna stay Jerry Johnson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, professionally, all of you guys though professionally it's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so so you know she can but like
Speaker 2: her big thing is like produced by Dria. She usually
Speaker 2: uses her first name mostly so changing her last name
Speaker 2: might not like change the brand of her because it's
Speaker 2: Dria is her brand.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you know, it's so interesting just watching you
Speaker 1: on Harlem. Season three. We got it, by the way,
Speaker 1: we did get a sneaky, We got a sneaky the
Speaker 1: first three very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very three.
Speaker 1: Seasons one and two, you got some issues.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you say I was watching that therapists break
Speaker 3: down your character.
Speaker 1: Wow, there was a therapist in the whole post from
Speaker 1: seasons one and two and broke down like you know,
Speaker 1: tied from the perspective of someone who is like got
Speaker 1: attachment issues.
Speaker 2: Tell me, did you see this?
Speaker 1: I did that? Somebody's really like sat there and broke
Speaker 1: it down.
Speaker 2: I love Island and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Like me really yeah, someone like saw scene and like
Speaker 3: analyzed it was like a body language.
Speaker 1: Summer House, marke this vineyard she's on she's on that.
Speaker 2: My friend Jazzmine. I love Jazz And so I mean
Speaker 2: I love the show by the way, you know, and
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm fine, But also I love that you
Speaker 2: are so honest and vulnerable and feel from the show.
Speaker 2: And so if somebody's doing a body language test for me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I could just be like that's just Tie,
Speaker 2: but it's.
Speaker 1: Like right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: She was just breaking down the scene where I had
Speaker 3: to cust Alex out and she was saying like, okay,
Speaker 3: this is him saying and that's when you see her
Speaker 3: go like.
Speaker 1: This, she's trying to hold it in.
Speaker 3: She's trying to be conscious and then she's like oh
Speaker 3: and then you see the layer kind of break where
Speaker 3: her body.
Speaker 1: It was very interesting and it was was it on point?
Speaker 2: You think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it was me on pointing. I've been following
Speaker 3: her for years, so that was even better. I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: because I know she has the teeth right, and so
Speaker 3: you don't even realize certain things that you do when
Speaker 3: you're even like telling a lie, or like you're trying
Speaker 3: to hold something in, or when you're not even aware
Speaker 3: of something subconsciously, your body's telling you all of everything
Speaker 3: me my face will say it and plus none of
Speaker 3: us lie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 2: So what did she say about Tie?
Speaker 1: So she was talking about TI's issues with commitment, and
Speaker 1: then also what else did she say about Tie? I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember, like and this is just from seasons
Speaker 1: one and two. Childhood trauma she talked about because there
Speaker 1: was a scene where it was like kind of brought
Speaker 1: up but not fully addressed about things in the past
Speaker 1: and maybe Tie's grandmother, you know, having you know, it
Speaker 1: was like very yeah things. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that did happen.
Speaker 2: Yes, And for us it's like I especially season one,
Speaker 2: I was having to build like what I thought my
Speaker 2: backstory was until the writers unfolded to me whatever the
Speaker 2: thing was, and so what the biggest I think the
Speaker 2: biggest maybe challenge for Jerry as an actor was trying
Speaker 2: to justify how someone without judgment could leave their family
Speaker 2: for so long. Now my family they some raw, but
Speaker 2: I would not dare you know, like my sister who's
Speaker 2: a camera corn sometimes we don't talk for a little bit,
Speaker 2: but then I'll say, get it together because we're blood.
Speaker 2: And my mom, as crazy as she was like, we
Speaker 2: weren't even allowed to I'm one of seven. We weren't
Speaker 2: even allowed to fight or are you in public? Well so,
Speaker 2: And I didn't know that that was a big thing
Speaker 2: until I went to college and people just be saying
Speaker 2: don't they And I'm like, now I might say that
Speaker 2: in the house or in my mind or to my
Speaker 2: other sibling. But I'm not say that out loud.
Speaker 1: I don't argue with nobody in public period at all.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna The other day, I was on
Speaker 1: the phone and somebody's walking past me screaming on the phone.
Speaker 1: I want to be that ever, that is New York
Speaker 1: very much. It was like, what's happening out there? Very
Speaker 1: much in public? Yeah, I think we had to have
Speaker 1: that's different. Yeah, that's a company.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like public disagreements. I
Speaker 2: just don't think that they're necessary. I'm a very much
Speaker 2: like keep it containing.
Speaker 1: The other thing that she was saying, and now I'm
Speaker 1: remembering everything that she said. She was also talking about
Speaker 1: and ty got money and we realized that when you
Speaker 1: had to give, you know, the check to your ex husband,
Speaker 1: right because he won it half or whatever, and it
Speaker 1: was like, okay, she slid over that check. It was
Speaker 1: like she was like I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand. It was like one point seven million
Speaker 1: or something like whatever the number was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, making it also being the person who
Speaker 2: made it in your family, and like I know, I
Speaker 2: can relate to that in a lot of ways because
Speaker 2: I'm the I'm the youngest girl, but I have two
Speaker 2: brothers under me, and I have a sister who was
Speaker 2: in a military who is a nurse, who is doing
Speaker 2: very well for herself. But most of my siblings, especially
Speaker 2: my brothers, like I want them to do more than
Speaker 2: what they're doing. But two of them are in prison,
Speaker 2: and my other brother, my youngest brother, is trying to
Speaker 2: get it together. And so it's interesting being the youngest
Speaker 2: and being the first to do a lot of things,
Speaker 2: the first to leave my mom's house to go to college,
Speaker 2: the only one to get a master's degree in my family, Like,
Speaker 2: there was a lot that I just had to learn
Speaker 2: from myself. And so when people were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: like I need some money, to let me call home,
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, when they need some money, they call me,
Speaker 2: and I'm here, like.
Speaker 1: The youngest, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm looking at for every twenty one or whatever,
Speaker 2: trying to get it together, and they're leaning on me
Speaker 2: for this thing. So then naturally, as I got older
Speaker 2: and I came into the industry, it feels like a
Speaker 2: it feels like I it sometimes feels like I'm the
Speaker 2: oldest sister, right and through experience, I have way more
Speaker 2: experience than than some of most of my siblings, and
Speaker 2: so in some aspects, like I'm able to give them
Speaker 2: some advice, but it is for tie, like figuring out
Speaker 2: like what does it mean to leave home and then
Speaker 2: not come back? But what happens in those years, like
Speaker 2: it gets harder to go. You know, maybe after college
Speaker 2: you thought, Okay, after this, I'm gonna and then you
Speaker 2: come out and you're living your life in New York
Speaker 2: and maybe it's like, well, after I sell this company,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna after I do this, I'm gonna after I
Speaker 2: after I after I after, and then all.
Speaker 1: These years just later and you keep on pushing the bus.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know you went to school for creative and performing
Speaker 1: arts from when you were in high school, so nobody
Speaker 1: else in your family was in that field.
Speaker 2: My aunt was a was a perform Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm like, are we going here? My aunt, whom I
Speaker 2: loved in the door growing up, I had went to
Speaker 2: Kappa as well, and so I felt like I was
Speaker 2: maybe following in her footsteps. And she had a production company,
Speaker 2: she has a she's a management com she's a manager,
Speaker 2: and so I was like, oh, she wants what's best
Speaker 2: for me. She's saved me from my mom a lot
Speaker 2: of times. And then I was going to college and uh,
Speaker 2: something shifted, and she you know, told me she was
Speaker 2: going to assue me if I worked for anybody else,
Speaker 2: because I signed a contract for her at sixteen, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, that was a real thing. And she
Speaker 2: really didn't have me sign a contract, but my I
Speaker 2: was like, girl, I got that off Google, like and
Speaker 2: so right. And so it was like really crazy to me,
Speaker 2: this switch. And there was a lot of things that happened.
Speaker 2: But I was living with her at the time, and
Speaker 2: I had been staying with my mom. So when I
Speaker 2: went to college, naturally I had to go get my stuff. Child.
Speaker 2: She didn't give me anything. I went to college with
Speaker 2: like a backpack full of stuff all of my class.
Speaker 2: I was working two jobs okay before that summer to
Speaker 2: like get enough stuff to say in order to you know,
Speaker 2: none of my because I was writing poetry. None of
Speaker 2: my poetry books. That's nothing, none of the thing precisely.
Speaker 2: But and then I was like so mad. I was
Speaker 2: so mad, and I was mad at my family because
Speaker 2: I'm like, is everybody so afraid of her that nobody
Speaker 2: could go get my stuff? Like she was not, you know.
Speaker 2: And so then one of my aunts was like, as
Speaker 2: long as you want that stuff, she has power over you.
Speaker 2: And that was my first lesson and non attachment. And
Speaker 2: so once I released that, I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: And it was hard because I'm like, but what about
Speaker 2: like this sweater that I got from this aunt that
Speaker 2: then you know, passed away, or this vintage thing, or
Speaker 2: like I was working, I don't I don't have nobody
Speaker 2: to support me. I'm supporting me. And then to like
Speaker 2: be so upset this person that I loved and trusted
Speaker 2: and looked up to, like.
Speaker 1: And you're a kid, yes, like you're still a kid,
Speaker 1: and this.
Speaker 2: Is my first time moving away somewhere and now I
Speaker 2: don't have anything anything, and so shout out to me.
Speaker 2: My boyfriend at the time, him and his mom just
Speaker 2: kind of helped me down and she would get me
Speaker 2: stuff when she could. She brought me a cold because
Speaker 2: it was cold as heck at Penn State, and she
Speaker 2: helped me down. But yeah, still to this day, I
Speaker 2: haven't seen any of that stuff. And I think she
Speaker 2: she's been trying to come back into my life.
Speaker 1: It's going well, and.
Speaker 2: That's I think. Yeah, so it's been tough. I mean,
Speaker 2: she's probably gonna message me after this.
Speaker 1: Was there an apology? You can't just try to come
Speaker 1: back and not even.
Speaker 2: There was a there was a there was a Four
Speaker 2: years later, I went to my cousin's birthday and she
Speaker 2: and my little cousin was like my little brother, and
Speaker 2: she wouldn't even allow him to talk to me, Like
Speaker 2: when I would come in the house and he would
Speaker 2: try to say hi to me, to like come get myself,
Speaker 2: she would make him not speak to me.
Speaker 1: I don't understand what flip that switch. It was just
Speaker 1: that terrible.
Speaker 2: And that's something that I also was, like.
Speaker 3: People even see the potential in somebody else and what
Speaker 3: their dream was, instead of like encouraging and aiding that process,
Speaker 3: I feel like they become resentful sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, and so so so we I went
Speaker 2: to this party and she had it was like an apology,
Speaker 2: but then she immediately was like, but I have this
Speaker 2: audition if you want to go right, which did feel
Speaker 2: like an apology for me. It feels like you want
Speaker 2: me to work right. And then she kept it was like,
Speaker 2: she I didn't feel resolved in twenty twenty was the
Speaker 2: year of truth and reconciliation for me. So it was like,
Speaker 2: if you are my family member and there's something we
Speaker 2: didn't talk about, if you are not willing to talk
Speaker 2: about it, then you just can't be in my life.
Speaker 2: And so she came to New York and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go out to dinner and da da da da da.
Speaker 2: And so I was like, we went to dinner, and
Speaker 2: I was like, listen, I really need to talk to
Speaker 2: you about how much you hurt me. I confided in you.
Speaker 2: I felt like you were a savior to me, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you switched into like do
Speaker 2: what you did to me was really painful. And she
Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, I was hurt too. I
Speaker 2: felt like because at one point I needed her to
Speaker 2: co sign for a loan for me, and I kept
Speaker 2: asking her and kept asking her, and after a while
Speaker 2: I figured she could and do it, which is why
Speaker 2: she wasn't responding to me. But it wasn't a big
Speaker 2: deal to me.
Speaker 1: It's like I can't tell me now right, I figured
Speaker 1: tell me now the fast you tell me now?
Speaker 2: The fast I figured, and so she was like, basically,
Speaker 2: you know, she didn't have it. She felt like everybody
Speaker 2: was mad at her for not having it. And then
Speaker 2: when I told her I couldn't do her fashion show,
Speaker 2: she felt like I was trying to do stuff with
Speaker 2: other people. But then she turned the conversation into something
Speaker 2: else about all the people that have hurt her and
Speaker 2: all this other stuff. And this is when I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm never going to this person is never going to
Speaker 2: say to me, I fucked up and I'm sorry for that,
Speaker 2: and that's it. It's always going to be about something yet,
Speaker 2: and it's always gonna.
Speaker 1: Go through personal back to her.
Speaker 2: It's always going to go back to her. And so
Speaker 2: if I want to engage in that sort of behavior,
Speaker 2: I have to know she's never going to admit it.
Speaker 2: And then I gave her one more chance. She was
Speaker 2: coming to New York because my little cousins and actor
Speaker 2: as well under her company. He was he was yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: he was doing an episode of Law and Order, and
Speaker 2: so they needed to come. They needed a place to
Speaker 2: stay in New York. And so at the time, my
Speaker 2: fiance still had her apartment and I had my my
Speaker 2: condo in Harlem. So I was like, we'll stay there
Speaker 2: and they can stay in your apartment. And she was like,
Speaker 2: but she has to bring you your stuff. That has
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: The the okay, that's there. Yeah, I'm like, I need
Speaker 1: those poetry.
Speaker 3: Journals and broke in while she was.
Speaker 2: And she had moved, so I was like, okay. She
Speaker 2: said she had a bin full of my stuff. So
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, bring the mad and then you
Speaker 2: can stay. Child. She come to the house and she
Speaker 2: already chat chat chat chat chat, chat chat and chat
Speaker 2: and chat chat and chat chat, and so I'm like okay,
Speaker 2: and she was like, oh no, I brought your stuff, Jay,
Speaker 2: and she pulls out a folder.
Speaker 1: It could have been Auntie.
Speaker 2: The folder has the country award prob had like these
Speaker 2: three awards from high school, my my graduation pictures, my
Speaker 2: sister's obituary, and a picture of me, my mom and
Speaker 2: my sister and my dad when my dad was in prison.
Speaker 2: When I was baby man, where's the sweater? Where's where's
Speaker 2: the poetry book?
Speaker 1: Journeys? And when I don't bring it to you?
Speaker 2: And he was like that's why I was looking at him.
Speaker 2: And he's eighteen now, so he was young right. So
Speaker 2: he so I'm like, and my fiance, who's my girlfriend,
Speaker 2: she is like this, she's seeming standing at the door,
Speaker 2: right because that's her place, right, and she's like, you
Speaker 2: didn't do actually what you and you could say to me,
Speaker 2: I actually don't have as much of it as I
Speaker 2: said I had, and I don't know where it is.
Speaker 5: And she couldn't say that, no, this is the folder
Speaker 5: and this is what I got, and this is be
Speaker 5: happy with.
Speaker 2: This, right, and didn't even say like that it gave
Speaker 2: me the folder as if it was the been like,
Speaker 2: didn't say.
Speaker 1: Happy with what I got? Right, here's your contract.
Speaker 3: But you know what, That's what I like about the
Speaker 3: show is that I feel like you guys do a
Speaker 3: really good job amongst your friends and amongst the relationships
Speaker 3: about taking accountability, and you guys are very good about
Speaker 3: being like, ooh, I fucked up. Yes I'm sorry. I
Speaker 3: see what you're saying. Yes, I'm sorry, girl, right.
Speaker 2: And I think because I in my lifetime, especially with
Speaker 2: my family, nobody has ever taken accountability, I'm so sensitive
Speaker 2: to taking accountability. So sometimes I think I overtake accountability
Speaker 2: because I like know that feeling somebody overcompensated. Sometimes I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: like my mom is my mom has never and ever
Speaker 2: apologized to me. My dad has never apologized to me,
Speaker 2: So it just feels.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if anybody in my family's ever
Speaker 1: apologized for anything. I literally just very team I. But
Speaker 1: I literally just left my.
Speaker 5: Therapists and we were having a conversation about my parents,
Speaker 5: and we literally just talked about conversations that we wish
Speaker 5: we had that we never did, and accountability, apologies, just
Speaker 5: speaking on things that were kind of like sensitive was
Speaker 5: definitely the topic that we just talked about. So I'm
Speaker 5: immediately drawn back to that conversation. But it sucks because
Speaker 5: at this point in my life, my parents are no
Speaker 5: longer here, so it's too late for me to have
Speaker 5: these conversations. So that went on to me saying like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I need to be better as a parent and make
Speaker 5: sure that these conversations I had with my daughter because
Speaker 5: one day it's going to be too late and I
Speaker 5: don't want her to feel how I feel in this moment.
Speaker 5: But that's crazy that this is what this conversation. I
Speaker 5: literally like left there and came here.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have.
Speaker 1: It's so real.
Speaker 2: It's the culture of I'm gonna speak for my family
Speaker 2: being from North Philly, it's we don't talk about it.
Speaker 2: Even me trying to like get my family history, trying
Speaker 2: to archive some of our stuff, and I can't even
Speaker 2: talk to get it my aunts and uncles about my
Speaker 2: grandmother is too painful for them, or like what happened?
Speaker 2: I have this half memory of this thing happening. What
Speaker 2: was that? People don't want to talk about it. They
Speaker 2: don't want to go there, and I have to respect that,
Speaker 2: like I until I can maybe provide the resources for
Speaker 2: their care. After I open that can of worms. I
Speaker 2: can't push for that can of worms.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it because people have to do the
Speaker 1: work on this.
Speaker 5: Because when you knocked that one dimino over, who knows
Speaker 5: how long it's gonna keep goings.
Speaker 1: Did they feel like when you they found out that
Speaker 1: you were engaged to a woman, did that matter to them? No?
Speaker 2: I don't care about that kind of stuff. But my
Speaker 2: mom was alive and I told her I was I
Speaker 2: was gay my first year of college. My second year
Speaker 2: of college, she said, girl, just mad. First of all,
Speaker 2: she said, don't say you gay, just say you like
Speaker 2: women and then wowed me to marry a rich Italian woman.
Speaker 1: She said, don't say you just say you like.
Speaker 2: But I don't like men. Yeah, it's interesting, it's just singing.
Speaker 2: And I've said since I'm like, oh, I'm a little
Speaker 2: bit more like pan and fluid than just like liking women. Right,
Speaker 2: But at the time it was confusing to me that
Speaker 2: it was like But then I went actually, I went
Speaker 2: to a juvenile detention center in Cleveland to speak to
Speaker 2: the kids and one of the girls was, right, so
Speaker 2: are you guy in real life? Right around so fast?
Speaker 2: And was like, that's not politically correct. You gotta ask
Speaker 2: her if she bye, I was.
Speaker 1: That's politically correct oriented?
Speaker 2: She was like, ask her. She like both. So it
Speaker 2: was interesting and it's a it's a cultural thing, but
Speaker 2: it's also like access to information. I'm sure my mom
Speaker 2: was very sexually liberated. I'm sure she has moments with women.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know that that we didn't necessarily know
Speaker 2: about her. Maybe we did know about it, we didn't
Speaker 2: know that that was that.
Speaker 3: But but that's a funny reaction, like friends love you,
Speaker 3: but you know, yeah, don't say that, Yeah, there you are,
Speaker 3: rich Italian woman.
Speaker 1: Why Italian. I'm y because becausin Philly, the Italians got money.
Speaker 2: Right, No Italian?
Speaker 4: But we know, we know about the Italian work at
Speaker 4: night Street, and we know about them big houses with
Speaker 4: the rooftops. About to tell her daughter marry a Richtian
Speaker 4: because she got a girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Right now, when your daughter told you that, how was
Speaker 3: that for you? What she didn't really tell me? It
Speaker 3: was kind of like, what's understanding? Gott to be explained? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like there was never really a time she's my girlfriend. Well,
Speaker 3: there was a she was in a relationship from high
Speaker 3: school with a guy and then they had a girlfriend,
Speaker 3: and then when that ended, she moved on to only
Speaker 3: having it. But her and him are really good friends still,
Speaker 3: like they're really close and they have the same friend
Speaker 3: group and everything. But yeah, she has a girlfriend.
Speaker 5: So she would just like be on the phone and
Speaker 5: FaceTime and all of that, and the girl's number was
Speaker 5: saved her phone, like baby or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then she brought her over for Thanksgiving. M hm.
Speaker 1: And that's it. You have to say.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, like you kind of already know.
Speaker 1: She don't give a ship. She just loved her daughter.
Speaker 1: I said, it's my little baby. Yeah, now listen. I
Speaker 1: love the fact that your character on the show is
Speaker 1: in tech right, which I think is great making a
Speaker 1: lot of money, but also very sexually liberated, just able
Speaker 1: to do whatever you want, you know. But it feels
Speaker 1: like and just like the therapist saying, maybe some trauma
Speaker 1: because of having a lack of commitment, do you think
Speaker 1: that that indicates there's an issue if somebody can do
Speaker 1: these things but want no attachments.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's yes, Anne, because as
Speaker 2: an Aquarius, as a as a poly person, there is
Speaker 2: a lot of moments where I'm like, I wish that
Speaker 2: there were more people who were wanting to have sex
Speaker 2: with me with no strings attached.
Speaker 1: But as guys, like, people really don't think that we
Speaker 1: can do that.
Speaker 2: And hold on.
Speaker 1: They can't. As much as that claim they can, they
Speaker 1: really can't.
Speaker 2: I be like, I don't want anything, and they're like,
Speaker 2: let's go to Cameroon and get married, and I'm like, no, bro,
Speaker 2: I don't want anything. That's what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 2: So for me that is tough, and for for me
Speaker 2: with women, it's hard. It's I have to be I
Speaker 2: feel like I have to be more intentional because I
Speaker 2: don't want to play with a woman's we have emotions, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know. And so I feel
Speaker 2: like there is a way to desire it without wanting
Speaker 2: strings attached, and it not be attached to some trauma
Speaker 2: that you had about commitment. But there's also a way
Speaker 2: to run from intimacy that can feel like, oh, if
Speaker 2: we get intimate, then I might have to get vulnerable,
Speaker 2: and I'm afraid of vulnerability because of my attachment style,
Speaker 2: and so I don't want to go that far. Where
Speaker 2: I feel like I can be it can be casual
Speaker 2: and intimate intimate at the same time without it being serious,
Speaker 2: like without it being like we're going to get.
Speaker 1: Married, Like you can be so respectful of me and
Speaker 1: care about me as as but also understand do your thing,
Speaker 1: which is what Megan Good's character is trying to do.
Speaker 5: I love meel down, but she didn't get on My
Speaker 5: Nurse in season one because she represents a large population.
Speaker 1: That's why I have a friend. Every single morning on
Speaker 1: my way to work, I'm on the phone with her.
Speaker 1: This guy be dogging her so bad, like it's so bad.
Speaker 1: He'll do things like he'll say things to her like well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in a relation. He'll go
Speaker 1: on vacations with other women and lie to her and
Speaker 1: act like he was at home, like he does the
Speaker 1: worst stuff, and she's like, I'm not messing with him anymore.
Speaker 1: And then the next time she's like, well he did
Speaker 1: say he didn't want I'm like, girl, and you're right.
Speaker 1: So that's a real like you cannot force anybody, So
Speaker 1: I've given up. And every day she's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking to him because he told me that he didn't
Speaker 1: want to be in a relationship with me, and he
Speaker 1: thinks that I'm boring because you know, I'm tired every
Speaker 1: night because I work so much and I'm not spontaneous,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, tomorrow she'll be like, well he
Speaker 1: came over, you know, and no attachment side.
Speaker 2: Yes that I want. I want you to I want
Speaker 2: love from you by any means necessary, and so I'm
Speaker 2: willing to be in this fight or fond relationship that
Speaker 2: we have where we're either so far apart and you're
Speaker 2: doing your own thing because you want to. But then
Speaker 2: when you are ready to come back to me, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna make you make up for the time. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna go straight into fawning for you so that
Speaker 2: I can have this little semblance of crumbs.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's.
Speaker 2: Not the crumb. We all guilty. They know I've never
Speaker 2: scraped to anybody.
Speaker 3: Now saying have we all been guilty of? Like going
Speaker 3: back to somebody that we know is like, I'm the
Speaker 3: captain of the committee. But I finally let go, y'all
Speaker 3: you said that before, But yeah I did for two years, but.
Speaker 1: Now I'm letting go.
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, you finally let go? And then you
Speaker 2: did it for two years.
Speaker 5: And we would go back when I went back after
Speaker 5: the two years? Yes, what what was the what what
Speaker 5: made I believed your last time?
Speaker 1: You know, it's just the convenience, the comfortability, you know
Speaker 1: the fact that I know what it's going to be
Speaker 1: better and different, got engaged to someone else and everything.
Speaker 2: And then went back and went back. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but now it's over again for good. And if
Speaker 5: I had it to this person, I hate his thinking
Speaker 5: good he's listen. He I blocked him on cash ap.
Speaker 5: Now if I don't want him to send me no money, then.
Speaker 1: You know I blocked him on cash app. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: still Zell. There's still PayPal.
Speaker 2: If you get that clever, it might be well.
Speaker 1: When he was sending the money, he was sending it
Speaker 1: on cash app. So I just blocked what we was.
Speaker 1: You know, have you ever blocked anybody?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: In general?
Speaker 1: Yes, girl, he blocked on everything, my phone, my Instagram,
Speaker 1: my cash. He blocked you on everything I blocked.
Speaker 2: I blocked before because you know, you know, I get
Speaker 2: down when it gets down, Yeah, and so it's hard
Speaker 2: for people to then go on to something else because
Speaker 2: of what I can ask, you know, And so when
Speaker 2: it gets when, it's like I would have liked to
Speaker 2: be friends with all of my exes, well not all
Speaker 2: of them, a lot of my exes. After whereas I
Speaker 2: know people we are like, yeah, I'm friends with all
Speaker 2: my I'm like, yeah, I would have liked to, But
Speaker 2: it feels for me if there's some lingering, like if
Speaker 2: I like, when I'm done, I'm done, right, But if
Speaker 2: there's lingering on your end, I don't want you to
Speaker 2: think that this friendship is actually a way for you
Speaker 2: to get get back in.
Speaker 1: I'm just cordial. I'm not friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah I can't. But I so I had to block
Speaker 2: an ex who was like really on them, and I
Speaker 2: blocked my niece and I didn't know that I blocked
Speaker 2: her until this Thanksgiving when I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm calling this group message. I said, that's did you
Speaker 2: block me? Like your number is not coming up? And
Speaker 2: she said no, no, no I did and I didn't,
Speaker 2: and then I was like oh, and it was like
Speaker 2: a big thing. And then I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: blocked you and yeah, but yeah, yeah, but I just
Speaker 2: love it. No. I love my niece. I love my
Speaker 2: niece to death. And she's figuring it out. She's twenty
Speaker 2: years old. She is.
Speaker 1: It sounds like y'all need a family reality show.
Speaker 2: Oh and you know sometimes I think about that and
Speaker 2: I'm like it would be so messy and trashy that
Speaker 2: I would just be like this. They wouldn.
Speaker 1: TV cameras.
Speaker 2: I would have to say, y'all get me out of here. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have some crazy Oh my god, it's it's actually
Speaker 2: quite crazy.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I said, enjoyed, and you blocked somebody.
Speaker 2: My block list is crazy.
Speaker 3: Really, I've blocked probably like two hundred people.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I don't play about My block.
Speaker 1: Game is like my phone or on social media, all
Speaker 1: of the above.
Speaker 2: And I got everybody else media.
Speaker 3: Stay blocked. A couple of y'all learn that the hard way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you stay block, eye block you on everything?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: Thenmo cash up everything.
Speaker 3: You will never hear from me.
Speaker 1: Acount. I'm like, list do not answer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I would just store your number under
Speaker 5: DNA so it will be like forty people on the
Speaker 5: DNA and I don't.
Speaker 1: Really know who you are. I didn't answer it.
Speaker 2: I blocked somebody on Instagram recently because this woman came
Speaker 2: and says she wanted to uh, she's been wanting. She
Speaker 2: does home the core. No, I'm not gonna put her
Speaker 2: name out there, but I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you know, like I loved her stuff, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: And she's a part of the community, so I was
Speaker 2: like cool. She was like, oh, you're moving into a
Speaker 2: new new building. Let's really get serious about this. Let
Speaker 2: me design your home. And she was like, this is
Speaker 2: how much I'm gonna charge you. Let's get it together.
Speaker 2: She came to the house, she bought a lampshade and
Speaker 2: she was like okay, and I was like, I would
Speaker 2: love for it to be done by March, and so
Speaker 2: I pay her all of the money in evance and
Speaker 2: then I didn't hear from her baby, and I was messaging.
Speaker 2: I was writing her on email. Then her email start
Speaker 2: Then it was like, Hi, I am her assistant, you
Speaker 2: can now message me. I'm like, but where I didn't
Speaker 2: give you? It was like, but I've been messaging her.
Speaker 2: Then it was like she was in Germany somewhere. Now
Speaker 2: she was just at my house last week. She didn't
Speaker 2: say she was going in Germany, right, And then she
Speaker 2: was sending me these mock ups. That was like, no,
Speaker 2: this isn't going to be it. But it was like
Speaker 2: getting closer to that date, I'm like, she hasn't sent
Speaker 2: me anything. She I told her what my budget was.
Speaker 2: She sending me this weird stuff. That's like it just
Speaker 2: was like but she wasn't responding. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's just like we can sever this relationship.
Speaker 1: Just send me my money back, like I've had so
Speaker 1: many issues.
Speaker 2: She did not.
Speaker 1: Wow, I've had so many issues with interior designers. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you I have when that never gave me anything.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be like a lighting plan, all
Speaker 1: this stuff, never sent it. It was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a whole spec of everything, never sent. That never sent
Speaker 1: anything was rude and then tried to sue me after
Speaker 1: I paid you so much money and then turned around
Speaker 1: and sue me. People are crazy, like I don't have
Speaker 1: all the evidence of like the emails, the payments.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just annoying. And my attorney was telling
Speaker 1: me that it's really difficult because especially with interior design,
Speaker 1: and they could put a lean on your house. So
Speaker 1: if they even just sue you. And he went through
Speaker 1: the same thing where he hired somebody, they didn't do
Speaker 1: what they were supposed to do, fire the person, and
Speaker 1: then the person sued and put a lean and he
Speaker 1: was trying to get like equity out of his home
Speaker 1: for something and ended up just having to pay because
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be good to have. It's just a lot. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy business because it's.
Speaker 2: Also like you would go to me for this. I know, right,
Speaker 2: you're doing my own little d I wives.
Speaker 1: I loved Let me tell you something. I love it,
Speaker 1: and I want to tell you, like, that's why you
Speaker 1: can't be paying people money upfront. That's a lesson though.
Speaker 1: I had to learn that too. You got to be
Speaker 1: like you get this percentage when you start, you get
Speaker 1: this percentage.
Speaker 3: When this is accomplished the same way the editor going
Speaker 3: to tell Camil about them chapters gonna get.
Speaker 2: This, And then because you will, because one hundred percent
Speaker 2: of my money went to you go on to Germany, and.
Speaker 1: I know it did, and we still because you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the name, even though it's a
Speaker 1: real factual story. Yeah, I'm not gonna say the person.
Speaker 2: And then you have a house up state. I do,
Speaker 2: and that person probably stayed at the house up set.
Speaker 1: That's not I know you're talking about you talk about it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 3: You paid trip to this, oh, proby, you didn't pay
Speaker 3: for it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Angela paid for it. Everybody's paying for everything. Wow,
Speaker 2: all of our things are paid for.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear about this Germany trip though, but you know.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so, do you know when the wedding is
Speaker 1: gonna be.
Speaker 2: No, we're figuring it out because we were supposed to
Speaker 2: be moving to l A. Oh that's right at the
Speaker 2: top of February, and so it's like, what even is
Speaker 2: the state of la you know, And so it feels
Speaker 2: like I've been feeling like there's something that for me
Speaker 2: to create right and I'm like, New York is just
Speaker 2: not that place right now, or at least the city
Speaker 2: is not. It just feels too like heavy, too fast.
Speaker 2: And being from Philly, I went to grad school in
Speaker 2: San Francisco, and I feel like I got the most
Speaker 2: healing from leaving and going somewhere where I can get
Speaker 2: my thoughts together. I feel like I've gotten back to
Speaker 2: the you know, the monkey mind that I don't really
Speaker 2: like now that I know what the other side looks like,
Speaker 2: and so it feels a little bit tough to know
Speaker 2: that I'm not, like, this is not my favorite place
Speaker 2: and to be here. And so I was like last
Speaker 2: year in October, I was like, I'm moving to I'm
Speaker 2: moving back to LA at the top of the year,
Speaker 2: and I'm like making all these plans and all this
Speaker 2: stuff and child's going on there.
Speaker 1: It's awful.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the weekend, like packing up Bucks is to
Speaker 3: sense stuff. But what they said is nice, And somebody
Speaker 3: was telling me this. They said that the line for
Speaker 3: people who want to donate is like way longer than
Speaker 3: the line of people who you know right now. So
Speaker 3: it's nice to see people like in a tragedy like this,
Speaker 3: just coming together, you know, being supportive to other out.
Speaker 1: But it's awful, and I.
Speaker 2: Hope it teaches us that we we all we got
Speaker 2: really and that there's we can't really depend on maybe
Speaker 2: people in office or whoever. We feel like people get
Speaker 2: titles and then it's like, oh, I'm putting all of
Speaker 2: my hope in this person's title. It's like, no, Actually,
Speaker 2: there's so much that we can do as a collective,
Speaker 2: as a community, as people, so much more than what
Speaker 2: we can do just waiting on somebody to hopefully do
Speaker 2: the thing that we hope is right right.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, when I tell you, I just like
Speaker 1: all weekend, I was so destryed. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: even like my house and how I built that, you know,
Speaker 1: and put everything owned into it. And I was like
Speaker 1: I was trying to and I didn't want to do
Speaker 1: this because it's awful to think about, but I was
Speaker 1: trying to visualize, like what if everything I had just
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, was gone. I can and it's awful
Speaker 1: that some people are like not caring. They'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: too bad, you lost your.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 1: Even memory.
Speaker 5: Like Ricky Lake when she told talked about her house
Speaker 5: and she's like, you know, we we were engaged here,
Speaker 5: we were married here.
Speaker 1: This was our forever home. This was our sanctuary. Like
Speaker 1: this is our place.
Speaker 5: We don't have that for the house. We don't have
Speaker 5: place anymore. We don't have more peace of mind and
Speaker 5: this piece of you know, our heaven on earth, forever
Speaker 5: heaven on earth, we don't have that anymore.
Speaker 1: Like that's what makes it.
Speaker 3: Just like you know, from a mental so many things
Speaker 3: can't be here. Yeah, and the mental standple and you
Speaker 3: and you and everything and we're people.
Speaker 2: Like one of my best friends in grad school is
Speaker 2: dan Aykroyd's daughter and they have they had this beautiful
Speaker 2: home in the Pacific Policies. Now, if it wasn't for him,
Speaker 2: I would not have been able to go home on
Speaker 2: winter vacation. Or he just was so kind. He was like,
Speaker 2: does she need a way to get home? He was
Speaker 2: buying me plane tickets to go home, and he was like,
Speaker 2: maybe she can come stop at the house.
Speaker 1: And then before she's amazing, and so I went.
Speaker 2: To the Pacific Policades in this house that is truly
Speaker 2: their sanctuary, and their mom was telling me about like
Speaker 2: how she knew that that home was theirs, the signs
Speaker 2: that she got from her ancestors, from her grandmother, the
Speaker 2: stuff that she saw there, and you could tell how
Speaker 2: precious this place was. And so to think that, and
Speaker 2: when I was there, because she kept telling me, you know, Jerry,
Speaker 2: when we're at home, we never leave the house. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, whatever it is in La and the house.
Speaker 2: And so to think that a place like that that
Speaker 2: has brought so many people together is gone. And if
Speaker 2: somebody was to say, well, you know, they're rich, so
Speaker 2: they it's like, no, it's not even about that money.
Speaker 2: And she talks, she tells the story about how when
Speaker 2: they bought the house, she was like begging him to
Speaker 2: buy the house and he was like, he didn't think
Speaker 2: that it was a good investment, and he was like, okay,
Speaker 2: she wanted.
Speaker 5: So he took.
Speaker 2: She took. He took all his money out of stocks
Speaker 2: to buy the house, and the next day the stock
Speaker 2: market crash. Oh my god. And so it's like, you
Speaker 2: think about the home, but the stories in the home,
Speaker 2: the manifestations in the home, the things that have happened
Speaker 2: in the home, and.
Speaker 5: So you there has to be some level of empathy
Speaker 5: for that time. So many people, so many people who
Speaker 5: have that same Yes.
Speaker 1: Now, my best friend lives she's from Philly, from Mount Airy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she lives out there with her family, and she
Speaker 1: had to vacate the house. You know, the kids are
Speaker 1: really frightened, but people were kids. Yeah, and she doesn't
Speaker 1: even know if her house is still you know, people
Speaker 1: don't know. I couldn't imagine the other part, like you
Speaker 1: don't even know what happened. And then people know are
Speaker 1: in this air. You don't know how that's going to
Speaker 1: affect you. Lated people that have bad cuffs, they're skinning itches,
Speaker 1: they're having all kinds of issues because of all the smoke, yes,
Speaker 1: and all the it's.
Speaker 2: Like there's fires, but there are things that are not
Speaker 2: supposed to be burned that's now burning in the fires.
Speaker 2: The yeah, and so the toxins from that times three
Speaker 2: thousand homes that are you know what I mean, there's
Speaker 2: so many.
Speaker 1: Different And that's somebody else was talking to me about
Speaker 1: how they're there. But they're staying because of the looting, right,
Speaker 1: because they have to have people there to watch for
Speaker 1: the houses that are still there, to make sure that
Speaker 1: nobody is breaking in and looting and stealing things. It's
Speaker 1: a lot. You don't have a different angles, So what
Speaker 1: do you what are you gonna do now? If you're
Speaker 1: not moving there? Have you decided an alternate plan?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking about it, but I still feel like
Speaker 2: I'm also in a person that gets activated, that always
Speaker 2: wants to help people. I still feel called there in
Speaker 2: some sense, maybe to advocate for them not making malible
Speaker 2: Olympic City. I don't know. I just feel like something
Speaker 2: the Olympics is happening in twenty twenty eight, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what are they about to do with all of this space?
Speaker 2: Like I just start to think about like where will
Speaker 2: people go? And so I want to, you know, protect
Speaker 2: my health but also like be a helpful source to people.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I've been thinking, like I always think about, like,
Speaker 2: oh do I go back to San Francisco because I
Speaker 2: think that San Francisco.
Speaker 1: It feels like when I can tell that when you
Speaker 1: said it earlier, Oh my god. And you're in the
Speaker 1: middle of a fast just so people who are listening,
Speaker 1: yeah and watching, know that what does it fast do
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: Well, one, I just released my fasting guide because I've
Speaker 2: been fasting for the past nine years. Not all nine years,
Speaker 2: but at the top of each year, I fast in
Speaker 2: order to like really get the signs, like clear signs.
Speaker 2: I feel like I we all are connected to source, right,
Speaker 2: but some of our connections are clogged. And so the
Speaker 2: way that I declogged that connection is by fasting. And
Speaker 2: so it started off with a Daniel fast and then
Speaker 2: I became alkaline for two years, and I did a
Speaker 2: raw fast juice cleanse, and now I'm a full liquid
Speaker 2: forty day fast. I'm like thirty something days in. But
Speaker 2: for me, it makes the signs that I'm getting from
Speaker 2: the universe undeniable, okay, and I like for it to
Speaker 2: be undeniable. And sometimes like we like to fight with
Speaker 2: spirit when he say leave that nigga, and you like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but he just sent me three hundred dollars on cash
Speaker 2: ever or seven thousand dollars or whatever, and he's just
Speaker 2: got a you know, but he's talking to me nice
Speaker 2: and it's and it's like, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean?
Speaker 2: And I have I have I have a history of
Speaker 2: women in my family. There is some like energy with
Speaker 2: like men, like I don't know what the hexes or whatever,
Speaker 2: and it causes sickness, like being with the wrong guys,
Speaker 2: I think, or the wrong people in general can make
Speaker 2: us sick and or being around the wrong people. And
Speaker 2: I remember one time I fast. I was fast thing
Speaker 2: and I you know, used to like to be outside.
Speaker 2: And during this fast, I was like, oh, I want
Speaker 2: to go very internal. I want to spend time alone.
Speaker 2: And it was in San Francisco and I was getting
Speaker 2: all of it, and I was like doing energetic cord
Speaker 2: cutting ceremonies, like whatever chords are still attached to my
Speaker 2: energy or benefiting from my energy, God, please cut them down.
Speaker 1: And instantly I like that.
Speaker 2: I was receiving text messages are you mad at me? Hey,
Speaker 2: I haven't heard from you, because the people who are
Speaker 2: still clicked into your energy that you.
Speaker 6: Didn't cut that chord, and they feel it. If you
Speaker 6: ever do that with an ass and cut the cord, watch.
Speaker 2: Them try to reach out to you. There's some Mariam
Speaker 2: has and I have some cord cutting meditations and you
Speaker 2: can just visualize like yes, because when people when you
Speaker 2: meet people, it's like a I was thinking about octopus,
Speaker 2: but it's like, you know, people snap onto your energy
Speaker 2: and sometimes it can be good.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have like a past life connection or we
Speaker 2: think about soulmates, right, that core connection lightens us up, right,
Speaker 2: because it's something that was meant to be, say, right,
Speaker 2: And we can have soulmates and friends or partners. But
Speaker 2: then sometimes you have energy leeches that come in and
Speaker 2: they want to be around you, and they like what
Speaker 2: you got and they like how you look. Let me
Speaker 2: take your pictures, let me be your photographer for free,
Speaker 2: let me do your house at a discounted rate, right,
Speaker 2: you know, and they snap onto your energy. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have let that woman in my house, but
Speaker 2: I didn't know at the time, right, you know.
Speaker 1: So because we want to believe the best. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing. I never want to feel so
Speaker 1: jaded that I don't believe that people have good intentions.
Speaker 1: But people don't have good intentions all the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, people, you know. Yes, And so for me, when
Speaker 2: I'm fasting, it's like the veil is off, I'm seeing Everything's.
Speaker 1: Give you a lot of clarity that saying does give you,
Speaker 1: like that clarity where you can when you're not faint,
Speaker 1: where you can see things like very clearly, and you
Speaker 1: can just you know, feel everything and you think.
Speaker 2: And for me, I'm like dang, what's been in this
Speaker 2: food I've been eating? You know in fact that I
Speaker 2: remember when I was alkaline. I had I was alkaline
Speaker 2: for two years and I had alcohol like wine by accident,
Speaker 2: and I felt the sugar rush through my veins in
Speaker 2: a way that I have never felt before. And so
Speaker 2: I always think too like twenty twenty four was hard.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was. I was.
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 2: Celebrating more but eating more, and I'm like, well, what
Speaker 2: am I compensating for? I'm over eating. I don't do that.
Speaker 2: I'm eating stuff that I don't usually eat what I
Speaker 2: don't do that, And so fast thing helps me to
Speaker 2: be like, listen, this is what happened. This is what happened.
Speaker 2: This is what happened, This is what happened. This is
Speaker 2: what we need to process, and this is what you
Speaker 2: need to let go of if you want to ascend
Speaker 2: to the next level that you saying that you want
Speaker 2: to ascend to, this is what you need to do.
Speaker 1: Clear now, Listen, when I did the two week fast,
Speaker 1: we weren't allowed to have we weren't well, we weren't
Speaker 1: supposed to have sex either.
Speaker 2: Now did you palli.
Speaker 1: Or twice?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: But so what about abstaining from sex? Have you ever
Speaker 1: done that? I see a lot of people talking about
Speaker 1: that recently, Like who was it just I was I
Speaker 1: was just talking about well, obviously Lenny Kravitz said that
Speaker 1: he did pretty V and b Simone. It was somebody
Speaker 1: else that we recently reported was Oh Redman said that
Speaker 1: after his divorce, going through this bad divorce, he abstained
Speaker 1: from sex. So have you ever practiced abstinence?
Speaker 2: Yes? When I actually when I became alkaline, I was like, actually,
Speaker 2: I'm going to date myself and I'm not going to
Speaker 2: have sex. And when I tell you, I was so clear,
Speaker 2: I was so alive, I was so in like because
Speaker 2: I'm because also sex connects.
Speaker 1: You to people's energy deposits.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think my fiance two years nice. It's
Speaker 2: just a different thing because also then you realize when
Speaker 2: you're out, am I out because I want to I
Speaker 2: want to do something? Or am I out because I
Speaker 2: want to be? And so your intentions have to be
Speaker 2: clearer because it's like, oh, at the end of the night,
Speaker 2: nothing's going to happen. So I'm actually just moving how
Speaker 2: I want to move. I'm not going to be here
Speaker 2: till two am. Trying to see if I'm.
Speaker 1: Not doing let out right, let's say what we're doing exactly.
Speaker 1: How important is sex to you in your relationship? You know,
Speaker 1: some people I think as we get older, when I
Speaker 1: was younger, maybe it was more important. I think my
Speaker 1: boyfriend would say it's extremely important. But like for you,
Speaker 1: if you had to say on percentage wise, like what
Speaker 1: if the sex wasn't amazing, could you still be in
Speaker 1: a relationship, could you still be with somebody? Like what's
Speaker 1: the importance of it?
Speaker 2: I think sex is extremely poortant, but I think it's
Speaker 2: the kind of sex Like I'm a sensual person, so
Speaker 2: and I and I'm a pleasure seeker. Maybe pleasure is
Speaker 2: like my thing that I'm you know that I love.
Speaker 2: I'm always like, what is pleasurable to me? I want
Speaker 2: to feel what's pleasurable and so pleasurable relationships things can
Speaker 2: be pleasurable and intimate in a way that is sexy.
Speaker 2: That like just like just having sex. To have sex
Speaker 2: for me is like not necessarily anything, But there's something
Speaker 2: about having pleasurable sex, intentional sex, tantric sex that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: we are tapping into another level because for me, that
Speaker 2: sort of pleasure center, my kundalini. That's where my creativity
Speaker 2: comes from. So I'm always down handling. Now, Yes, that's
Speaker 2: that root shot, that's that. Yeah, you're labunda.
Speaker 1: I'm not using that. Listen, get with his kundalini before
Speaker 1: you try anything else.
Speaker 3: It kind of sounded like that Italian woman's pasta for
Speaker 3: a second, and.
Speaker 2: It probably was.
Speaker 1: Because even I would say this, when you do a
Speaker 1: detox or fast right, it is the reason they tell us.
Speaker 1: They told me to like abstain during that is because
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be like detoxing things and you don't
Speaker 1: want nobody, like, you know, getting their detox. I guess
Speaker 1: your detox stuff all over them. I don't know what
Speaker 1: there is for him.
Speaker 2: Injecting his Shuggary kool aid inside, but some people will
Speaker 2: tell you if you want to get pregnant, to do
Speaker 2: a detox because it kind of clears the path. Oh nobody, don't.
Speaker 1: Listen. I heard you say Polly earlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe, Oh my gosh, how long were you guys together,
Speaker 1: you and Drea before you guys got engaged, before you propose?
Speaker 1: And how did you know that this was your person for.
Speaker 2: Like a year and some change. But I went to
Speaker 2: uh to Loom by myself. I like visited a friend
Speaker 2: and then I was like, oh, I need to have
Speaker 2: a moment by myself, and I did some shrooms and
Speaker 2: I like I had on these Gucci slides that I
Speaker 2: had broke. I had twisted my ankle in d r
Speaker 2: N and I was after that exactly, and so I'm
Speaker 2: walking down this uh, I'm walking down this, this, this, this,
Speaker 2: this the beach, and spirit just said let them go,
Speaker 2: so I like let them go into the water. And
Speaker 2: now I'm walking barefoot and I'm like having these downloads
Speaker 2: from from from doing this plant medicine, and it just
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is what I am supposed to do.
Speaker 2: And now I also am a person that believes and
Speaker 2: sometimes like we're supposed to do stuff that we don't
Speaker 2: have fully have the language for, even if it's like
Speaker 2: just to just unlock this thing, right or just to
Speaker 2: unlock whatever the thing is, right, But I'm hearing this
Speaker 2: is what you are, like, this is your person, right,
Speaker 2: and so I'm like, oh, okay, interesting. And so then
Speaker 2: I started thinking about this trip to Jamaica that we
Speaker 2: were already taken in all of this, and it became
Speaker 2: clear to me that like, oh, this this meet and
Speaker 2: this person, the way that we line up, the way
Speaker 2: that we the way that we think is so in sync,
Speaker 2: the way that we are so in sync, Like like
Speaker 2: she is my best friend first to me.
Speaker 1: She is always said that's the most important thing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we can just hang out, hang out,
Speaker 2: hang out. And if she was here right now, it
Speaker 2: would we would just be like it's like sick. And
Speaker 2: my family loves her and it feels like she is
Speaker 2: a she's a natural addition, you know. And so and
Speaker 2: so I was like, Okay, then I'm going to to
Speaker 2: to do this. And so it's interesting too as a
Speaker 2: poly person, sometimes people don't think that like poly people
Speaker 2: want to settle down or poly people want to whatever.
Speaker 2: But I feel like it is important for me to
Speaker 2: have a core, to have like a home space that
Speaker 2: that is really important and to and to be okay
Speaker 2: with how things change and shift, to know that like
Speaker 2: my forever is my quest for my pleasure. That's the
Speaker 2: thing that I'm really committed to forever. And so and
Speaker 2: this is so pleasurable right now, This is so beautiful
Speaker 2: right now. And so and I love that, you know,
Speaker 2: and I and I am a fan of of of that,
Speaker 2: and I'm a fan and I love love, you know,
Speaker 2: and and I'm so in love with with how smart
Speaker 2: she is and and how dedicated she is to the
Speaker 2: people around her and how she can just elevate an
Speaker 2: idea like that.
Speaker 1: So what are the rules when it comes to your
Speaker 1: poly relationship? Like, what do you guys when you discuss this?
Speaker 1: How does this work?
Speaker 2: So we have agreements and as long, and it's important
Speaker 2: when niggas just be like, yeah, well I'm polly. If
Speaker 2: if you say show me your agreements and he don't
Speaker 2: have no agreement or agreement, that means he doing what
Speaker 2: he wants exactly, because agreements sets up expectations. So I
Speaker 2: can't say like if we if you do something and
Speaker 2: you come and tell me, but we don't have any agreements,
Speaker 2: I could just be like, well, I don't understand why
Speaker 2: you're mad, right, there's no accountability there.
Speaker 1: We said we agreed to have this and souse, it's
Speaker 1: different than an open relationship, right.
Speaker 2: And so for me when I came into it, and
Speaker 2: I think it was like maybe in twenty twenty, I
Speaker 2: was like taking this energy is sovereignty course, and I
Speaker 2: decided that I was going to make a a a
Speaker 2: poly framework for myself that was going to be this
Speaker 2: is like, this is this is how I am as
Speaker 2: a lover. These are my love languages, this is my
Speaker 2: hout ability methods, this is my communication style. It has
Speaker 2: all of this in this packet, right, Because I was
Speaker 2: dating and women were like, well, y is poly because
Speaker 2: you want to have that, and yeah, it was so
Speaker 2: many misconsumptions. So I'm like, if you want to know why,
Speaker 2: here's the packet. If it's not in the package precisely, yes,
Speaker 2: and that's my burg Yes, it's like very it has
Speaker 2: to be that because I don't like to repeat myself either.
Speaker 2: And so while I'm dating, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm having these same conversations. Let me put it right.
Speaker 2: And so then you can say, oh, actually I don't
Speaker 2: like that stuff, so I'm not gonna date you. Right,
Speaker 2: we know we can cut out that for everybody to
Speaker 2: come with that, right, And so or I love this,
Speaker 2: this is where I fit in or how I want
Speaker 2: to engage, And so I already had this poly framework
Speaker 2: or this love framework that that I sent to her,
Speaker 2: and so she already knew kind of sort of like
Speaker 2: baseline of where we were coming from. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, and she's not inherently an open person.
Speaker 2: She would consider herself maybe a monogamous person who's trying
Speaker 2: out openness, right, And so I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: before we get married, I would like for us to
Speaker 2: be in practice of polyamory just so we can know,
Speaker 2: like if this is gonna work, you know, because I
Speaker 2: love you and you're my friend. But I also have
Speaker 2: spent a lot of years like being like, well, I
Speaker 2: guess I'm being polyshamed people being like well, you know,
Speaker 2: listening to what people who are not of my experience
Speaker 2: have had, right, you know, And so I'm like, no, actually,
Speaker 2: I am a radical lover and these are the reasons why.
Speaker 2: And as a relationship anarchist and an anarchist in my
Speaker 2: real life, if I'm as a queer, non binary person
Speaker 2: pushing up against the patriarchy in these ways, I also
Speaker 2: have to in my relationship styles. And so for me
Speaker 2: in years thinking about like what are the scripts that
Speaker 2: I learned and who am I? And if those things
Speaker 2: don't line up, then I'm at dissonance with myself. And
Speaker 2: a lot of what I was doing was things that
Speaker 2: I learned, like there were times where I was like,
Speaker 2: I felt dirty having sex with men because my boyfriend
Speaker 2: of the longest time like treated me like a Barbie
Speaker 2: doll because like he was the one of the only
Speaker 2: people that I had been with, and so I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: this is how it should be right. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm trying to be not how I
Speaker 2: was supposed to be right. But I had to figure
Speaker 2: out what I liked. I had to like explore for.
Speaker 1: Myself and more people should.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a misconception of the queer community
Speaker 3: where mostly coming from heterosexual people, that queer people are promiscuous,
Speaker 3: fast or slut whatever the word is. And I really
Speaker 3: feel like the difference is is you guys are way
Speaker 3: more willing to have the conversation about what you're honestly
Speaker 3: feeling about things. I feel like heterosexual couples do not
Speaker 3: want to talk about what they really want. That's why
Speaker 3: these men are going to dominatrix and doing weird Yeah,
Speaker 3: only fans paying on these women's bills and then want
Speaker 3: to be mad on the other turn that you're paying
Speaker 3: every two million dollars whatever it is, but then don't
Speaker 3: want you to do it, but I don't want to
Speaker 3: talk to you about the fact that they like they
Speaker 3: like it, and they want you to be conservative, but
Speaker 3: we're not gonna be to which one is it right?
Speaker 1: So what the girls is right?
Speaker 2: And so for me, I'm like, I could live in
Speaker 2: the imaginary worlds of like, oh you have to be
Speaker 2: like or I can figure out what I like and
Speaker 2: tell people that I like it, because then I've been
Speaker 2: in a lot of situations where people want you to
Speaker 2: do something, but they actually don't know what it is
Speaker 2: that they want you to do because they haven't explored themselves.
Speaker 2: I'm not in the business of trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what you want.
Speaker 1: I know what I want.
Speaker 2: If you don't even have a baseline, now there's stuff
Speaker 2: that we can explore together, but if you don't even
Speaker 2: know at a base level what you want, is harder
Speaker 2: for me to engage. And so then for me, I
Speaker 2: mean when we got into a relationship, I had a
Speaker 2: girlfriend and and then I was dating my fiance who's
Speaker 2: my now my fiance and my girlfriend they planned my
Speaker 2: birthday together. It was beautiful, it was wonderful, and they
Speaker 2: were in communication.
Speaker 1: Your girlfriend and your your ex girlfriend and your fiance
Speaker 1: planned your.
Speaker 2: Birthday, yes, and it was nice and it was for me,
Speaker 2: It's like that's the sort of like I'm also I
Speaker 2: love open communication, Like if if if I'm dating this person,
Speaker 2: and I'm dating this person, I want you to know
Speaker 2: each other so that y'all know that these people have
Speaker 2: good intentions.
Speaker 1: Guys, don't try this at home. Not don't listen to
Speaker 1: Jerry and you go home and be like, hey, you
Speaker 1: me him.
Speaker 2: Child. But for me, I it's like it's helpful. And
Speaker 2: you could say, actually I don't don't want to know,
Speaker 2: and that's fine.
Speaker 4: Some people don't have conversation, and yeah, the communication is
Speaker 4: the key precisely.
Speaker 1: So birthday coming up? What are your plans? Who's playing
Speaker 1: in this birthday?
Speaker 2: Turn thirty? I'm turning thirty one, thirty one? Yes, I'm like,
Speaker 2: who is playing this birthday? So I didn't have it
Speaker 2: at my uh my friend's arena has this beautiful shop.
Speaker 1: In that very stylish Yeah, I love her. I randomly
Speaker 1: happened to be in Saint Martin with her for New
Speaker 1: Year's Yeah.
Speaker 2: She was just telling me about that.
Speaker 1: Amazing yes, and so she is so fly.
Speaker 2: She opened up this what do you call it? This, this, this,
Speaker 2: this where you could go and get styled, you know,
Speaker 2: at this beautiful I think it was this Winnie Harlowe's
Speaker 2: house that she sold, okay, and so it's it's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: She wants to have events there, and so I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I definitely can have my birthday. But now with the fires,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I don't know, and it's it's
Speaker 2: a tough thing to navigate, even just with promoting this show.
Speaker 2: How do I show that like I am very empathetic
Speaker 2: to as a person who has experienced multiple house fires,
Speaker 2: empathetic to what is happening, and also like celebrate that
Speaker 2: I'm making it to thirty one, or celebrating that that
Speaker 2: season three is dropping and it's our final season. So
Speaker 2: it's an interesting balance.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think that people do always need
Speaker 1: an escape from every day thinking about or experiencing what
Speaker 1: they're experiencing. And Harlem is show that is so well
Speaker 1: written and so well done and by the way, so
Speaker 1: sad that is the last season. I was like, what
Speaker 1: do we have, right, you know, But like I said,
Speaker 1: we got the first couple of episodes, so we feel
Speaker 1: good about it.
Speaker 2: Yes, hopefully there's a movie, if anybody else let go
Speaker 2: because the.
Speaker 1: Cliffhanger last season, somebody was pregnant. We're not going to
Speaker 1: give that away, but that was the cliffhanger seen that
Speaker 1: last season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but definitely make sure you
Speaker 1: let people know. I mean, we appreciate you for coming through.
Speaker 1: I had, we had such an amazing conversation with you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to you some more after this, because absolutely,
Speaker 1: because there's some things they need to be ex question.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so excited about what's next with this, with
Speaker 5: the season because I'm three c three episodes in, I'm
Speaker 5: like and now.
Speaker 1: Because they gave us.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But what about you personally now that this is the
Speaker 1: last season, you know, you have a lot going on,
Speaker 1: and it feels like you'll be able to do kind
Speaker 1: of what you want. What is that like now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have been Actually I wrote this one woman's
Speaker 2: show called What We Lost in the Fire about the
Speaker 2: fire that I had when I was thirteen where my
Speaker 2: house burned down and the reason why it was unsolvegable
Speaker 2: was because there was no water in the holes because
Speaker 2: in Philly in the summertime, and right and so but
Speaker 2: the but the but the But the play is really
Speaker 2: about about generational trauma and how I want to be
Speaker 2: the end of this, like how I can heal my
Speaker 2: family line and so like finding that trauma, that that
Speaker 2: trauma source and burning it because because fire can also
Speaker 2: be renewal, it.
Speaker 1: Can be about I tell Marlon Wayne saying that it was.
Speaker 2: Right about about a new beginning and then what happens
Speaker 2: after the fire and so and but in my mind,
Speaker 2: it's like an interactive space. It happens in like maybe
Speaker 2: a warehouse or a museum where you're interacting with my
Speaker 2: family line before you get into the show. And the
Speaker 2: show is like a ritual, like a fire ritual for
Speaker 2: people to be able to release their stuff as well.
Speaker 2: And so so that's what I'm that's amazing. I learn
Speaker 2: that some funding comes through.
Speaker 1: I can see I already have a space in mind
Speaker 1: in New York because I go to there, I go
Speaker 1: to plays all the time out here. I would love
Speaker 1: to see that. Yes, yeah, and I think you know,
Speaker 1: given what has happened, Yeah, it can be very much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not even now, but even down the
Speaker 3: line as people start to really process what's going on,
Speaker 3: look back.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to be the first player art Bosele.
Speaker 1: Oh, now okay, okay?
Speaker 3: Which one Miamiam? Or there's three of them on Miami?
Speaker 3: What's the old more so there's the one in not Japan,
Speaker 3: Germ and then maybe it is Tokyo. It's not the one,
Speaker 3: but there's three.
Speaker 1: Well, I would go I would love to be all
Speaker 1: of it, but Miami would be a good Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so that would They would love that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: That that's much something like that as much needed. I
Speaker 1: could see them doing that at like you know, they
Speaker 1: do events at mansions and stuff like that that they
Speaker 1: ran out there. I think they could see that, yes,
Speaker 1: and then break give them right, Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your openness honestly, like great conversation. This felt
Speaker 1: like it could have been a one woman show, like
Speaker 1: because we just love hearing you tub But wait before
Speaker 1: we go, can we address something?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Because this is by this is bothering me because I
Speaker 5: don't like being accused of being shape.
Speaker 1: I know you may not know anything about this, but
Speaker 1: a couple of we had an episode on there was
Speaker 1: a two different podcasts, My Expert Opinion, Math, Haffa and
Speaker 1: Field and Bag for You, and they used hone used
Speaker 1: to be on Matthoffice podcast My Expert Opinion, and so
Speaker 1: we had them on lip Service, had bag Fuel on
Speaker 1: lip Service and then Matt Haffa showed up and it
Speaker 1: turned into like a little screaming and people thought we
Speaker 1: were being messy.
Speaker 5: People thought we set them up. We lined them up,
Speaker 5: did not allowed him to ambush the show. And it
Speaker 5: was not that by It was not a.
Speaker 1: Jerry Springer situation. And just to put it to rest,
Speaker 1: Kim Osario was guest hosting. As you can see on
Speaker 1: the second episode, she's on My Expert Opinion, So I
Speaker 1: guess you know, she probably mentioned. She did mention to
Speaker 1: Math that she was coming and that badfew was doing
Speaker 1: the first episode, I purposely didn't have her on there
Speaker 1: because I knew she was on the other show. But
Speaker 1: that's my friend, and you know then right when we
Speaker 1: were starting the episode, she told me Math wants to
Speaker 1: bring you a gift. I didn't know if they were
Speaker 1: going to run into each other, but I also know
Speaker 1: they have seen each other in public previously. Spoken was
Speaker 1: supposed to go to eat, were supposed to whatever tuck.
Speaker 1: They have a business dispute.
Speaker 2: They're not no.
Speaker 1: Nobody nobody's about to fight. It's no conversation. So everybody
Speaker 1: that's like somebody could have got killed and d.
Speaker 5: D like the grown mens in their mind, they're doing
Speaker 5: things pieces on this whole thing, and they're painting us
Speaker 5: in the show and a whole out to be like
Speaker 5: the bad guy in this whole situation, even though some
Speaker 5: people enjoy even though a lot of people enjoyed it,
Speaker 5: and s O and Heine can definitely understand what happened.
Speaker 1: It was going, Yeah, he wasn't answered they wanted. They
Speaker 1: were okay with him sitting down. He wasn't even going
Speaker 1: to but they had a conversation and you know, talked
Speaker 1: about some things. Everybody there were other names mentioned. People
Speaker 1: reached out to me to tell me, like the real
Speaker 1: stories behind the scenes. So hopefully they all get back
Speaker 1: together and listen.
Speaker 5: We were able to have something happen in a safe
Speaker 5: space and the talk was had and it was all
Speaker 5: just very random, but it happened, and it's something that
Speaker 5: needed to happen.
Speaker 1: And people thought we had an action mic like it
Speaker 1: was planned. We had action mike because we had another episode.
Speaker 5: We had a second episode, so that's what we's like,
Speaker 5: we need to address them.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done ayahuasca since you talked about being
Speaker 1: into loom.
Speaker 2: And I want to so bad, Yes, but I have to.
Speaker 2: I'm like I've been. I've been like, okay, yeah, if
Speaker 2: you want me to do this, I need to find
Speaker 2: the right shaman. Yeah, you know what does it?
Speaker 1: If you like Chelsea Handler, she was so doing that.
Speaker 1: She did a whole Netflix special on Chelsea on Drugs
Speaker 1: with ayahuasca and she was like, let's do it, but
Speaker 1: we all did it. I'll do it and talking about
Speaker 1: we talked about it with else.
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's do it. Let's do a trip where
Speaker 2: do Yeah?
Speaker 1: I would love that. I want to do it so bad.
Speaker 1: Let's I am. I'm just scared because they say sometimes
Speaker 1: people like ship on themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you're scared about.
Speaker 1: That goes every time. That's the one thing I cared about.
Speaker 2: But the yeah, before every day like.
Speaker 1: To day sometimes, Yeah, I'm nervous, But you know what,
Speaker 1: you only could say that because you're doing your detox
Speaker 1: and stuff, so you know you're not going to problem like, oh.
Speaker 2: This whatever lump of whatever I had inside me that
Speaker 2: needs to come out coming out.
Speaker 1: I did my first Kolonic. That was interesting, love clon.
Speaker 2: I did not need were you were you on to
Speaker 2: sit down?
Speaker 6: One?
Speaker 2: What do you mean so you lay down? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 2: But my myklonic woman who's here in New York Coop,
Speaker 2: I love her. She said that there is a way
Speaker 2: to sit down and they leave you in the room.
Speaker 2: In the room, Oh wow, no sitting.
Speaker 1: They had me laying I was she left the room.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like laying half up.
Speaker 2: No. No, I just don't like the leaving you in
Speaker 2: the room thing. I think that that's just traumatizing.
Speaker 1: We rather to be alone every time be alone, and
Speaker 1: I don't want every time I've done In conversation she
Speaker 1: has like, yeah, that's it, you come check, that's it.
Speaker 1: I don't need you see, like, you know that's crazy.
Speaker 2: She was like you had a lot of times.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, yeah, or maybe a
Speaker 1: again then we can do I us ship everywhere. It
Speaker 1: may might not happen, but anyway, again, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And Harlem season three, the final season. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see where you're character goes on here, you know,
Speaker 1: because we live for this character. She got money, all right,
Speaker 1: it's lift service