WEBVTT - LS Episode 487: F that Aunt (Feat.  Jerrie Johnson)

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, We're back it slip service some angela Yee,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm g G. Maguire, I'm Jeordie George and named Jerry Johnson. Yes, man, jump.

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<v Speaker 1>They sound like a famous name already. It really yeah, period,

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<v Speaker 1>I just your name when you were born, they were like, she's.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, my name was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>Rashida okay, but when my my dad wasn't in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's name is Jerry. This is gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even gonna tell the whole story. But my dad's

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<v Speaker 2>name is Jerry, and my grandfather was like, you should

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<v Speaker 2>name her Jerry, and so then my mom said yes

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<v Speaker 2>because she wanted my grandfather to approval. So then my

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<v Speaker 2>name became Jerry Johnson. And at first I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like this as the boy's name, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's just a rich I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like names that are like, okay, like what's another

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<v Speaker 1>name that could be, like, okay, Terry Jordan Jordan's. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wanted something very feminine actually, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>something more like looks.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I really love my name. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, like, you don't know who's coming that

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<v Speaker 1>part at all, like.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the hotel they were like mister Johnson, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sorry, you know what I love when I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel with my boyfriend and they're like mister ye

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like mister ye, and I'd be like, mister y,

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<v Speaker 1>you better listen. This brings us to one conversation though,

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<v Speaker 1>changing last names, because congratulations on your engagement and you

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<v Speaker 1>proposed me. What was your heart feeling like when that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I was nervous the whole time because I'm also a perfectionist,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I'm like, Okay, we're gonna do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was planning the whole thing. And she was there,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's a producer, and so you can't really get

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<v Speaker 2>nothing as a producer. So I'm trying to produce this

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<v Speaker 2>proposal to a producer, and I'm just like, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what if she knows what's going on, is it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be too much Because she also is not like a

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<v Speaker 2>she don't always like to be in the forefront of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I was nervous. But my sister was there

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<v Speaker 2>and she knew what was going on, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>this woman that I met at this other podcast that

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<v Speaker 2>I did, who was from Jamaica, who like set up

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of things for me, and so it was

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<v Speaker 2>nerve wrecking. But then when the moment happened, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just like everything okay, okay, okay, okay okay, and she

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<v Speaker 2>just was in tears. But then also the cameras were overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 2>but we had to get the pick. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>it was crazy, but it was it ended up being

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<v Speaker 2>really nice and beautiful. And then I was like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>stay in Jamaica for longer. So we extended the chest

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<v Speaker 2>and I love Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 3>So we sing yeah, okay when I say slamming killed, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I love to take a little thigh out

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<v Speaker 3>than a die. You gotta remind you posts well you

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<v Speaker 3>reminded us.

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<v Speaker 1>But congratulations, congratulations. Now last name, So did y'all have

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<v Speaker 1>the last name discussion?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's probably gonna do a little hyphen it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna stay Jerry Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, professionally, all of you guys though professionally it's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so so you know she can but like

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<v Speaker 2>her big thing is like produced by Dria. She usually

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<v Speaker 2>uses her first name mostly so changing her last name

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<v Speaker 2>might not like change the brand of her because it's

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<v Speaker 2>Dria is her brand.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, you know, it's so interesting just watching you

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<v Speaker 1>on Harlem. Season three. We got it, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we did get a sneaky, We got a sneaky the

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<v Speaker 1>first three very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very very three.

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<v Speaker 1>Seasons one and two, you got some issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So you say I was watching that therapists break

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<v Speaker 3>down your character.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, there was a therapist in the whole post from

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<v Speaker 1>seasons one and two and broke down like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tied from the perspective of someone who is like got

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<v Speaker 1>attachment issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me, did you see this?

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<v Speaker 1>I did that? Somebody's really like sat there and broke

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<v Speaker 1>it down.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Island and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like me really yeah, someone like saw scene and like

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<v Speaker 3>analyzed it was like a body language.

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<v Speaker 1>Summer House, marke this vineyard she's on she's on that.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend Jazzmine. I love Jazz And so I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I love the show by the way, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm fine, But also I love that you

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<v Speaker 2>are so honest and vulnerable and feel from the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if somebody's doing a body language test for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I could just be like that's just Tie,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like right, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>She was just breaking down the scene where I had

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<v Speaker 3>to cust Alex out and she was saying like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is him saying and that's when you see her

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<v Speaker 3>go like.

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<v Speaker 1>This, she's trying to hold it in.

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<v Speaker 3>She's trying to be conscious and then she's like oh

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<v Speaker 3>and then you see the layer kind of break where

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<v Speaker 3>her body.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very interesting and it was was it on point?

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<v Speaker 2>You think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, it was me on pointing. I've been following

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<v Speaker 3>her for years, so that was even better. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>because I know she has the teeth right, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you don't even realize certain things that you do when

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<v Speaker 3>you're even like telling a lie, or like you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to hold something in, or when you're not even aware

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<v Speaker 3>of something subconsciously, your body's telling you all of everything

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<v Speaker 3>me my face will say it and plus none of

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<v Speaker 3>us lie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did she say about Tie?

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<v Speaker 1>So she was talking about TI's issues with commitment, and

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<v Speaker 1>then also what else did she say about Tie? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember, like and this is just from seasons

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<v Speaker 1>one and two. Childhood trauma she talked about because there

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<v Speaker 1>was a scene where it was like kind of brought

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<v Speaker 1>up but not fully addressed about things in the past

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe Tie's grandmother, you know, having you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like very yeah things. I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that did happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And for us it's like I especially season one,

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<v Speaker 2>I was having to build like what I thought my

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<v Speaker 2>backstory was until the writers unfolded to me whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>thing was, and so what the biggest I think the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest maybe challenge for Jerry as an actor was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to justify how someone without judgment could leave their family

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<v Speaker 2>for so long. Now my family they some raw, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would not dare you know, like my sister who's

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<v Speaker 2>a camera corn sometimes we don't talk for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but then I'll say, get it together because we're blood.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mom, as crazy as she was like, we

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<v Speaker 2>weren't even allowed to I'm one of seven. We weren't

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<v Speaker 2>even allowed to fight or are you in public? Well so,

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't know that that was a big thing

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<v Speaker 2>until I went to college and people just be saying

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<v Speaker 2>don't they And I'm like, now I might say that

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<v Speaker 2>in the house or in my mind or to my

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<v Speaker 2>other sibling. But I'm not say that out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't argue with nobody in public period at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna The other day, I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and somebody's walking past me screaming on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be that ever, that is New York

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<v Speaker 1>very much. It was like, what's happening out there? Very

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<v Speaker 1>much in public? Yeah, I think we had to have

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<v Speaker 1>that's different. Yeah, that's a company.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it. I don't like public disagreements. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think that they're necessary. I'm a very much

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<v Speaker 2>like keep it containing.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that she was saying, and now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>remembering everything that she said. She was also talking about

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<v Speaker 1>and ty got money and we realized that when you

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<v Speaker 1>had to give, you know, the check to your ex husband,

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<v Speaker 1>right because he won it half or whatever, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, she slid over that check. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like she was like I thought it was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand. It was like one point seven million

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<v Speaker 1>or something like whatever the number was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, making it also being the person who

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<v Speaker 2>made it in your family, and like I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>can relate to that in a lot of ways because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the I'm the youngest girl, but I have two

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<v Speaker 2>brothers under me, and I have a sister who was

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<v Speaker 2>in a military who is a nurse, who is doing

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<v Speaker 2>very well for herself. But most of my siblings, especially

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<v Speaker 2>my brothers, like I want them to do more than

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing. But two of them are in prison,

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<v Speaker 2>and my other brother, my youngest brother, is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get it together. And so it's interesting being the youngest

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<v Speaker 2>and being the first to do a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>the first to leave my mom's house to go to college,

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<v Speaker 2>the only one to get a master's degree in my family, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot that I just had to learn

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<v Speaker 2>from myself. And so when people were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like I need some money, to let me call home,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, when they need some money, they call me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm here, like.

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<v Speaker 1>The youngest, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm looking at for every twenty one or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get it together, and they're leaning on me

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<v Speaker 2>for this thing. So then naturally, as I got older

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<v Speaker 2>and I came into the industry, it feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like I it sometimes feels like I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest sister, right and through experience, I have way more

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<v Speaker 2>experience than than some of most of my siblings, and

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<v Speaker 2>so in some aspects, like I'm able to give them

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<v Speaker 2>some advice, but it is for tie, like figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>like what does it mean to leave home and then

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<v Speaker 2>not come back? But what happens in those years, like

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<v Speaker 2>it gets harder to go. You know, maybe after college

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<v Speaker 2>you thought, Okay, after this, I'm gonna and then you

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<v Speaker 2>come out and you're living your life in New York

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe it's like, well, after I sell this company,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna after I do this, I'm gonna after I

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<v Speaker 2>after I after I after, and then all.

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<v Speaker 1>These years just later and you keep on pushing the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you went to school for creative and performing

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<v Speaker 1>arts from when you were in high school, so nobody

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<v Speaker 1>else in your family was in that field.

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<v Speaker 2>My aunt was a was a perform Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, are we going here? My aunt, whom I

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<v Speaker 2>loved in the door growing up, I had went to

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<v Speaker 2>Kappa as well, and so I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 2>maybe following in her footsteps. And she had a production company,

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<v Speaker 2>she has a she's a management com she's a manager,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I was like, oh, she wants what's best

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<v Speaker 2>for me. She's saved me from my mom a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times. And then I was going to college and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>something shifted, and she you know, told me she was

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<v Speaker 2>going to assue me if I worked for anybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>because I signed a contract for her at sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wait, that was a real thing. And she

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't have me sign a contract, but my I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, girl, I got that off Google, like and

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<v Speaker 2>so right. And so it was like really crazy to me,

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<v Speaker 2>this switch. And there was a lot of things that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was living with her at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had been staying with my mom. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>went to college, naturally I had to go get my stuff. Child.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't give me anything. I went to college with

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<v Speaker 2>like a backpack full of stuff all of my class.

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<v Speaker 2>I was working two jobs okay before that summer to

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<v Speaker 2>like get enough stuff to say in order to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>none of my because I was writing poetry. None of

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<v Speaker 2>my poetry books. That's nothing, none of the thing precisely.

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<v Speaker 2>But and then I was like so mad. I was

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<v Speaker 2>so mad, and I was mad at my family because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, is everybody so afraid of her that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>could go get my stuff? Like she was not, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so then one of my aunts was like, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you want that stuff, she has power over you.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was my first lesson and non attachment. And

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<v Speaker 2>so once I released that, I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was hard because I'm like, but what about

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<v Speaker 2>like this sweater that I got from this aunt that

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, passed away, or this vintage thing, or

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<v Speaker 2>like I was working, I don't I don't have nobody

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<v Speaker 2>to support me. I'm supporting me. And then to like

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<v Speaker 2>be so upset this person that I loved and trusted

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<v Speaker 2>and looked up to, like.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're a kid, yes, like you're still a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is my first time moving away somewhere and now I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have anything anything, and so shout out to me.

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<v Speaker 2>My boyfriend at the time, him and his mom just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of helped me down and she would get me

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<v Speaker 2>stuff when she could. She brought me a cold because

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<v Speaker 2>it was cold as heck at Penn State, and she

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<v Speaker 2>helped me down. But yeah, still to this day, I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen any of that stuff. And I think she

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<v Speaker 2>she's been trying to come back into my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going well, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I think. Yeah, so it's been tough. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she's probably gonna message me after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there an apology? You can't just try to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and not even.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a there was a there was a Four

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<v Speaker 2>years later, I went to my cousin's birthday and she

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<v Speaker 2>and my little cousin was like my little brother, and

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<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't even allow him to talk to me, Like

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<v Speaker 2>when I would come in the house and he would

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<v Speaker 2>try to say hi to me, to like come get myself,

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<v Speaker 2>she would make him not speak to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what flip that switch. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>that terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something that I also was, like.

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<v Speaker 3>People even see the potential in somebody else and what

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<v Speaker 3>their dream was, instead of like encouraging and aiding that process,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they become resentful sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, and so so so we I went

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<v Speaker 2>to this party and she had it was like an apology,

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<v Speaker 2>but then she immediately was like, but I have this

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<v Speaker 2>audition if you want to go right, which did feel

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<v Speaker 2>like an apology for me. It feels like you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to work right. And then she kept it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>she I didn't feel resolved in twenty twenty was the

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<v Speaker 2>year of truth and reconciliation for me. So it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are my family member and there's something we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't talk about, if you are not willing to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, then you just can't be in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she came to New York and she was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go out to dinner and da da da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, we went to dinner, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, listen, I really need to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you about how much you hurt me. I confided in you.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like you were a savior to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden you switched into like do

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<v Speaker 2>what you did to me was really painful. And she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, you know, I was hurt too. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like because at one point I needed her to

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<v Speaker 2>co sign for a loan for me, and I kept

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<v Speaker 2>asking her and kept asking her, and after a while

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<v Speaker 2>I figured she could and do it, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't responding to me. But it wasn't a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I can't tell me now right, I figured

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<v Speaker 1>tell me now the fast you tell me now?

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<v Speaker 2>The fast I figured, and so she was like, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she didn't have it. She felt like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was mad at her for not having it. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when I told her I couldn't do her fashion show,

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<v Speaker 2>she felt like I was trying to do stuff with

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<v Speaker 2>other people. But then she turned the conversation into something

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<v Speaker 2>else about all the people that have hurt her and

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<v Speaker 2>all this other stuff. And this is when I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never going to this person is never going to

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<v Speaker 2>say to me, I fucked up and I'm sorry for that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it. It's always going to be about something yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's always gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Go through personal back to her.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always going to go back to her. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if I want to engage in that sort of behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to know she's never going to admit it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I gave her one more chance. She was

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<v Speaker 2>coming to New York because my little cousins and actor

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<v Speaker 2>as well under her company. He was he was yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing an episode of Law and Order, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they needed to come. They needed a place to

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<v Speaker 2>stay in New York. And so at the time, my

0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.080
<v Speaker 2>fiance still had her apartment and I had my my

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<v Speaker 2>condo in Harlem. So I was like, we'll stay there

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<v Speaker 2>and they can stay in your apartment. And she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>but she has to bring you your stuff. That has

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>The the okay, that's there. Yeah, I'm like, I need

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<v Speaker 1>those poetry.

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<v Speaker 3>Journals and broke in while she was.

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<v Speaker 2>And she had moved, so I was like, okay. She

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<v Speaker 2>said she had a bin full of my stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, bring the mad and then you

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<v Speaker 2>can stay. Child. She come to the house and she

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<v Speaker 2>already chat chat chat chat chat, chat chat and chat

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<v Speaker 2>and chat chat and chat chat, and so I'm like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, oh no, I brought your stuff, Jay,

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<v Speaker 2>and she pulls out a folder.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have been Auntie.

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<v Speaker 2>The folder has the country award prob had like these

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<v Speaker 2>three awards from high school, my my graduation pictures, my

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<v Speaker 2>sister's obituary, and a picture of me, my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>my sister and my dad when my dad was in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was baby man, where's the sweater? Where's where's

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<v Speaker 2>the poetry book?

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<v Speaker 1>Journeys? And when I don't bring it to you?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like that's why I was looking at him.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's eighteen now, so he was young right. So

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<v Speaker 2>he so I'm like, and my fiance, who's my girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>she is like this, she's seeming standing at the door,

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<v Speaker 2>right because that's her place, right, and she's like, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do actually what you and you could say to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't have as much of it as I

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<v Speaker 2>said I had, and I don't know where it is.

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<v Speaker 5>And she couldn't say that, no, this is the folder

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<v Speaker 5>and this is what I got, and this is be

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<v Speaker 5>happy with.

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<v Speaker 2>This, right, and didn't even say like that it gave

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<v Speaker 2>me the folder as if it was the been like,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy with what I got? Right, here's your contract.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, That's what I like about the

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<v Speaker 3>show is that I feel like you guys do a

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<v Speaker 3>really good job amongst your friends and amongst the relationships

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<v Speaker 3>about taking accountability, and you guys are very good about

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<v Speaker 3>being like, ooh, I fucked up. Yes I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 3>see what you're saying. Yes, I'm sorry, girl, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think because I in my lifetime, especially with

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<v Speaker 2>my family, nobody has ever taken accountability, I'm so sensitive

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<v Speaker 2>to taking accountability. So sometimes I think I overtake accountability

0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:05.679
<v Speaker 2>because I like know that feeling somebody overcompensated. Sometimes I'm like, oh, yeah,

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.000
<v Speaker 2>like my mom is my mom has never and ever

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<v Speaker 2>apologized to me. My dad has never apologized to me,

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<v Speaker 2>So it just feels.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know if anybody in my family's ever

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<v Speaker 1>apologized for anything. I literally just very team I. But

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<v Speaker 1>I literally just left my.

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<v Speaker 5>Therapists and we were having a conversation about my parents,

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<v Speaker 5>and we literally just talked about conversations that we wish

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<v Speaker 5>we had that we never did, and accountability, apologies, just

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<v Speaker 5>speaking on things that were kind of like sensitive was

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<v Speaker 5>definitely the topic that we just talked about. So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>immediately drawn back to that conversation. But it sucks because

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<v Speaker 5>at this point in my life, my parents are no

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<v Speaker 5>longer here, so it's too late for me to have

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<v Speaker 5>these conversations. So that went on to me saying like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I need to be better as a parent and make

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<v Speaker 5>sure that these conversations I had with my daughter because

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<v Speaker 5>one day it's going to be too late and I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want her to feel how I feel in this moment.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's crazy that this is what this conversation. I

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<v Speaker 5>literally like left there and came here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so real.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the culture of I'm gonna speak for my family

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<v Speaker 2>being from North Philly, it's we don't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even me trying to like get my family history, trying

0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.920
<v Speaker 2>to archive some of our stuff, and I can't even

0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 2>talk to get it my aunts and uncles about my

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 2>grandmother is too painful for them, or like what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I have this half memory of this thing happening. What

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<v Speaker 2>was that? People don't want to talk about it. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to go there, and I have to respect that,

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<v Speaker 2>like I until I can maybe provide the resources for

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.359
<v Speaker 2>their care. After I open that can of worms. I

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 2>can't push for that can of worms.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I get it because people have to do the

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<v Speaker 1>work on this.

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<v Speaker 5>Because when you knocked that one dimino over, who knows

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<v Speaker 5>how long it's gonna keep goings.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they feel like when you they found out that

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<v Speaker 1>you were engaged to a woman, did that matter to them? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care about that kind of stuff. But my

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.919
<v Speaker 2>mom was alive and I told her I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was gay my first year of college. My second year

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<v Speaker 2>of college, she said, girl, just mad. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, don't say you gay, just say you like

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<v Speaker 2>women and then wowed me to marry a rich Italian woman.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, don't say you just say you like.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't like men. Yeah, it's interesting, it's just singing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've said since I'm like, oh, I'm a little

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 2>bit more like pan and fluid than just like liking women. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>But at the time it was confusing to me that

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<v Speaker 2>it was like But then I went actually, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a juvenile detention center in Cleveland to speak to

0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:00.919
<v Speaker 2>the kids and one of the girls was, right, so

0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:05.920
<v Speaker 2>are you guy in real life? Right around so fast?

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<v Speaker 2>And was like, that's not politically correct. You gotta ask

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 2>her if she bye, I was.

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 1>That's politically correct oriented?

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>She was like, ask her. She like both. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting and it's a it's a cultural thing, but

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:23.640
<v Speaker 2>it's also like access to information. I'm sure my mom

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>was very sexually liberated. I'm sure she has moments with women.

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you know that that we didn't necessarily know

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<v Speaker 2>about her. Maybe we did know about it, we didn't

0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 2>know that that was that.

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<v Speaker 3>But but that's a funny reaction, like friends love you,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, yeah, don't say that, Yeah, there you are,

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<v Speaker 3>rich Italian woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Why Italian. I'm y because becausin Philly, the Italians got money.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No Italian?

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<v Speaker 4>But we know, we know about the Italian work at

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<v Speaker 4>night Street, and we know about them big houses with

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<v Speaker 4>the rooftops. About to tell her daughter marry a Richtian

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 4>because she got a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, when your daughter told you that, how was

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 3>that for you? What she didn't really tell me? It

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 3>was kind of like, what's understanding? Gott to be explained? Okay, Yeah,

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Like there was never really a time she's my girlfriend. Well,

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 3>there was a she was in a relationship from high

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 3>school with a guy and then they had a girlfriend,

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 3>and then when that ended, she moved on to only

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 3>having it. But her and him are really good friends still,

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 3>like they're really close and they have the same friend

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.400
<v Speaker 3>group and everything. But yeah, she has a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 5>So she would just like be on the phone and

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 5>FaceTime and all of that, and the girl's number was

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 5>saved her phone, like baby or whatever.

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 1>And then she brought her over for Thanksgiving. M hm.

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's it. You have to say.

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 5>It's like, yeah, like you kind of already know.

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>She don't give a ship. She just loved her daughter.

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, it's my little baby. Yeah, now listen. I

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>love the fact that your character on the show is

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>in tech right, which I think is great making a

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of money, but also very sexually liberated, just able

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to do whatever you want, you know. But it feels

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like and just like the therapist saying, maybe some trauma

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>because of having a lack of commitment, do you think

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:23.239
<v Speaker 1>that that indicates there's an issue if somebody can do

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>these things but want no attachments.

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's yes, Anne, because as

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 2>an Aquarius, as a as a poly person, there is

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of moments where I'm like, I wish that

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 2>there were more people who were wanting to have sex

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>with me with no strings attached.

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>But as guys, like, people really don't think that we

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>can do that.

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 2>And hold on.

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>They can't. As much as that claim they can, they

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>really can't.

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I be like, I don't want anything, and they're like,

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 2>let's go to Cameroon and get married, and I'm like, no, bro,

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want anything. That's what I'm saying to you.

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 2>So for me that is tough, and for for me

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 2>with women, it's hard. It's I have to be I

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 2>feel like I have to be more intentional because I

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 2>don't want to play with a woman's we have emotions, Yeah,

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to, you know. And so I feel

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:21.120
<v Speaker 2>like there is a way to desire it without wanting

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>strings attached, and it not be attached to some trauma

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>that you had about commitment. But there's also a way

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 2>to run from intimacy that can feel like, oh, if

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 2>we get intimate, then I might have to get vulnerable,

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 2>and I'm afraid of vulnerability because of my attachment style,

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 2>and so I don't want to go that far. Where

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I can be it can be casual

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 2>and intimate intimate at the same time without it being serious,

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 2>like without it being like we're going to get.

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Married, Like you can be so respectful of me and

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>care about me as as but also understand do your thing,

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>which is what Megan Good's character is trying to do.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 5>I love meel down, but she didn't get on My

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 5>Nurse in season one because she represents a large population.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>That's why I have a friend. Every single morning on

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>my way to work, I'm on the phone with her.

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>This guy be dogging her so bad, like it's so bad.

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>He'll do things like he'll say things to her like well,

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be in a relation. He'll go

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>on vacations with other women and lie to her and

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>act like he was at home, like he does the

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>worst stuff, and she's like, I'm not messing with him anymore.

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>And then the next time she's like, well he did

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.199
<v Speaker 1>say he didn't want I'm like, girl, and you're right.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>So that's a real like you cannot force anybody, So

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I've given up. And every day she's like, I'm not

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>talking to him because he told me that he didn't

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>want to be in a relationship with me, and he

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>thinks that I'm boring because you know, I'm tired every

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>night because I work so much and I'm not spontaneous,

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, okay, tomorrow she'll be like, well he

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>came over, you know, and no attachment side.

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes that I want. I want you to I want

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 2>love from you by any means necessary, and so I'm

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>willing to be in this fight or fond relationship that

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 2>we have where we're either so far apart and you're

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.479
<v Speaker 2>doing your own thing because you want to. But then

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 2>when you are ready to come back to me, I'm

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>not gonna make you make up for the time. I'm

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 2>just gonna go straight into fawning for you so that

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I can have this little semblance of crumbs.

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's.

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Not the crumb. We all guilty. They know I've never

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 2>scraped to anybody.

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Now saying have we all been guilty of? Like going

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>back to somebody that we know is like, I'm the

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>captain of the committee. But I finally let go, y'all

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>you said that before, But yeah I did for two years, but.

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm letting go.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait, hold on, you finally let go? And then you

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>did it for two years.

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 5>And we would go back when I went back after

0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 5>the two years? Yes, what what was the what what

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 5>made I believed your last time?

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just the convenience, the comfortability, you know

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the fact that I know what it's going to be

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>better and different, got engaged to someone else and everything.

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>And then went back and went back. Yeah.

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but now it's over again for good. And if

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 5>I had it to this person, I hate his thinking

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 5>good he's listen. He I blocked him on cash ap.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 5>Now if I don't want him to send me no money, then.

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>You know I blocked him on cash app. Yeah, there's

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>still Zell. There's still PayPal.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 2>If you get that clever, it might be well.

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>When he was sending the money, he was sending it

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>on cash app. So I just blocked what we was.

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, have you ever blocked anybody?

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>In general?

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, girl, he blocked on everything, my phone, my Instagram,

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>my cash. He blocked you on everything I blocked.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I blocked before because you know, you know, I get

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>down when it gets down, Yeah, and so it's hard

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>for people to then go on to something else because

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>of what I can ask, you know, And so when

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>it gets when, it's like I would have liked to

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>be friends with all of my exes, well not all

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 2>of them, a lot of my exes. After whereas I

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 2>know people we are like, yeah, I'm friends with all

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>my I'm like, yeah, I would have liked to, But

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>it feels for me if there's some lingering, like if

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I like, when I'm done, I'm done, right, But if

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>there's lingering on your end, I don't want you to

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>think that this friendship is actually a way for you

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 2>to get get back in.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just cordial. I'm not friends.

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I can't. But I so I had to block

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>an ex who was like really on them, and I

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>blocked my niece and I didn't know that I blocked

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 2>her until this Thanksgiving when I was like, oh my god,

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm calling this group message. I said, that's did you

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>block me? Like your number is not coming up? And

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 2>she said no, no, no I did and I didn't,

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>and then I was like oh, and it was like

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>a big thing. And then I was like, oh, I

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 2>blocked you and yeah, but yeah, yeah, but I just

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 2>love it. No. I love my niece. I love my

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 2>niece to death. And she's figuring it out. She's twenty

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>years old. She is.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like y'all need a family reality show.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh and you know sometimes I think about that and

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like it would be so messy and trashy that

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I would just be like this. They wouldn.

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>TV cameras.

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I would have to say, y'all get me out of here. Okay. Yeah,

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I have some crazy Oh my god, it's it's actually

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>quite crazy.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I said, enjoyed, and you blocked somebody.

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>My block list is crazy.

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Really, I've blocked probably like two hundred people.

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't play about My block.

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Game is like my phone or on social media, all

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of the above.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 2>And I got everybody else media.

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Stay blocked. A couple of y'all learn that the hard way. Yeah,

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 3>you stay block, eye block you on everything?

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>What's that?

0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Thenmo cash up everything.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 3>You will never hear from me.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Acount. I'm like, list do not answer.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, and I would just store your number under

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 5>DNA so it will be like forty people on the

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 5>DNA and I don't.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Really know who you are. I didn't answer it.

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I blocked somebody on Instagram recently because this woman came

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 2>and says she wanted to uh, she's been wanting. She

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>does home the core. No, I'm not gonna put her

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>name out there, but I was like, oh my god,

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I loved her stuff, you know whatever.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>And she's a part of the community, so I was

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 2>like cool. She was like, oh, you're moving into a

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 2>new new building. Let's really get serious about this. Let

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>me design your home. And she was like, this is

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>how much I'm gonna charge you. Let's get it together.

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>She came to the house, she bought a lampshade and

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>she was like okay, and I was like, I would

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 2>love for it to be done by March, and so

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I pay her all of the money in evance and

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 2>then I didn't hear from her baby, and I was messaging.

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I was writing her on email. Then her email start

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Then it was like, Hi, I am her assistant, you

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 2>can now message me. I'm like, but where I didn't

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>give you? It was like, but I've been messaging her.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Then it was like she was in Germany somewhere. Now

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>she was just at my house last week. She didn't

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>say she was going in Germany, right, And then she

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>was sending me these mock ups. That was like, no,

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 2>this isn't going to be it. But it was like

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>getting closer to that date, I'm like, she hasn't sent

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 2>me anything. She I told her what my budget was.

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 2>She sending me this weird stuff. That's like it just

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>was like but she wasn't responding. So I was like, okay,

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>let's just like we can sever this relationship.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Just send me my money back, like I've had so

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>many issues.

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>She did not.

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I've had so many issues with interior designers. Let

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>me tell you I have when that never gave me anything.

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to be like a lighting plan, all

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, never sent it. It was supposed to be

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>a whole spec of everything, never sent. That never sent

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>anything was rude and then tried to sue me after

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I paid you so much money and then turned around

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and sue me. People are crazy, like I don't have

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 1>all the evidence of like the emails, the payments.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 2>You.

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's just annoying. And my attorney was telling

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>me that it's really difficult because especially with interior design,

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and they could put a lean on your house. So

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>if they even just sue you. And he went through

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the same thing where he hired somebody, they didn't do

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>what they were supposed to do, fire the person, and

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>then the person sued and put a lean and he

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 1>was trying to get like equity out of his home

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>for something and ended up just having to pay because

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.919
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be good to have. It's just a lot. Wow. Yeah,

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy business because it's.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Also like you would go to me for this. I know, right,

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you're doing my own little d I wives.

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I loved Let me tell you something. I love it,

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>and I want to tell you, like, that's why you

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>can't be paying people money upfront. That's a lesson though.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I had to learn that too. You got to be

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>like you get this percentage when you start, you get

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>this percentage.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 3>When this is accomplished the same way the editor going

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 3>to tell Camil about them chapters gonna get.

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 2>This, And then because you will, because one hundred percent

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>of my money went to you go on to Germany, and.

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I know it did, and we still because you're like,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say the name, even though it's a

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>real factual story. Yeah, I'm not gonna say the person.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 2>And then you have a house up state. I do,

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>and that person probably stayed at the house up set.

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>That's not I know you're talking about you talk about it.

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about it.

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 3>You paid trip to this, oh, proby, you didn't pay

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 3>for it?

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Angela paid for it. Everybody's paying for everything. Wow,

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 2>all of our things are paid for.

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear about this Germany trip though, but you know.

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so, do you know when the wedding is

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be.

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 2>No, we're figuring it out because we were supposed to

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 2>be moving to l A. Oh that's right at the

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 2>top of February, and so it's like, what even is

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the state of la you know, And so it feels

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>like I've been feeling like there's something that for me

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>to create right and I'm like, New York is just

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>not that place right now, or at least the city

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 2>is not. It just feels too like heavy, too fast.

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And being from Philly, I went to grad school in

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco, and I feel like I got the most

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>healing from leaving and going somewhere where I can get

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>my thoughts together. I feel like I've gotten back to

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the monkey mind that I don't really

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>like now that I know what the other side looks like,

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and so it feels a little bit tough to know

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>that I'm not, like, this is not my favorite place

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.879
<v Speaker 2>and to be here. And so I was like last

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 2>year in October, I was like, I'm moving to I'm

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 2>moving back to LA at the top of the year,

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like making all these plans and all this

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 2>stuff and child's going on there.

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 1>It's awful.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's the weekend, like packing up Bucks is to

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 3>sense stuff. But what they said is nice, And somebody

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 3>was telling me this. They said that the line for

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 3>people who want to donate is like way longer than

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 3>the line of people who you know right now. So

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 3>it's nice to see people like in a tragedy like this,

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 3>just coming together, you know, being supportive to other out.

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's awful, and I.

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Hope it teaches us that we we all we got

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 2>really and that there's we can't really depend on maybe

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 2>people in office or whoever. We feel like people get

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 2>titles and then it's like, oh, I'm putting all of

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 2>my hope in this person's title. It's like, no, Actually,

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 2>there's so much that we can do as a collective,

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 2>as a community, as people, so much more than what

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 2>we can do just waiting on somebody to hopefully do

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the thing that we hope is right right.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, when I tell you, I just like

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>all weekend, I was so destryed. I was thinking about

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>even like my house and how I built that, you know,

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and put everything owned into it. And I was like

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to and I didn't want to do

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>this because it's awful to think about, but I was

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to visualize, like what if everything I had just

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, was gone. I can and it's awful

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that some people are like not caring. They'd be like, oh,

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>too bad, you lost your.

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 5>It's not.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Even memory.

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 5>Like Ricky Lake when she told talked about her house

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 5>and she's like, you know, we we were engaged here,

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 5>we were married here.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>This was our forever home. This was our sanctuary. Like

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>this is our place.

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 5>We don't have that for the house. We don't have

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 5>place anymore. We don't have more peace of mind and

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 5>this piece of you know, our heaven on earth, forever

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 5>heaven on earth, we don't have that anymore.

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Like that's what makes it.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 3>Just like you know, from a mental so many things

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 3>can't be here. Yeah, and the mental standple and you

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 3>and you and everything and we're people.

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Like one of my best friends in grad school is

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 2>dan Aykroyd's daughter and they have they had this beautiful

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.879
<v Speaker 2>home in the Pacific Policies. Now, if it wasn't for him,

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I would not have been able to go home on

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>winter vacation. Or he just was so kind. He was like,

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 2>does she need a way to get home? He was

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 2>buying me plane tickets to go home, and he was like,

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe she can come stop at the house.

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>And then before she's amazing, and so I went.

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 2>To the Pacific Policades in this house that is truly

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 2>their sanctuary, and their mom was telling me about like

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 2>how she knew that that home was theirs, the signs

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that she got from her ancestors, from her grandmother, the

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff that she saw there, and you could tell how

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>precious this place was. And so to think that, and

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 2>when I was there, because she kept telling me, you know, Jerry,

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 2>when we're at home, we never leave the house. And

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, whatever it is in La and the house.

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>And so to think that a place like that that

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 2>has brought so many people together is gone. And if

0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 2>somebody was to say, well, you know, they're rich, so

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 2>they it's like, no, it's not even about that money.

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 2>And she talks, she tells the story about how when

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>they bought the house, she was like begging him to

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>buy the house and he was like, he didn't think

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 2>that it was a good investment, and he was like, okay,

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 2>she wanted.

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 5>So he took.

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:16.720
<v Speaker 2>She took. He took all his money out of stocks

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>to buy the house, and the next day the stock

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>market crash. Oh my god. And so it's like, you

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 2>think about the home, but the stories in the home,

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the manifestations in the home, the things that have happened

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>in the home, and.

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 5>So you there has to be some level of empathy

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 5>for that time. So many people, so many people who

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 5>have that same Yes.

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Now, my best friend lives she's from Philly, from Mount Airy. Yeah,

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>so she lives out there with her family, and she

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>had to vacate the house. You know, the kids are

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>really frightened, but people were kids. Yeah, and she doesn't

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>even know if her house is still you know, people

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I couldn't imagine the other part, like you

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what happened. And then people know are

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>in this air. You don't know how that's going to

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>affect you. Lated people that have bad cuffs, they're skinning itches,

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>they're having all kinds of issues because of all the smoke, yes,

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and all the it's.

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Like there's fires, but there are things that are not

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be burned that's now burning in the fires.

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 2>The yeah, and so the toxins from that times three

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.439
<v Speaker 2>thousand homes that are you know what I mean, there's

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>so many.

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Different And that's somebody else was talking to me about

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>how they're there. But they're staying because of the looting, right,

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>because they have to have people there to watch for

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the houses that are still there, to make sure that

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>nobody is breaking in and looting and stealing things. It's

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot. You don't have a different angles, So what

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>do you what are you gonna do now? If you're

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>not moving there? Have you decided an alternate plan?

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm thinking about it, but I still feel like

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm also in a person that gets activated, that always

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 2>wants to help people. I still feel called there in

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 2>some sense, maybe to advocate for them not making malible

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Olympic City. I don't know. I just feel like something

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the Olympics is happening in twenty twenty eight, I'm like,

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.240
<v Speaker 2>what are they about to do with all of this space?

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I just start to think about like where will

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 2>people go? And so I want to, you know, protect

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 2>my health but also like be a helpful source to people.

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, I've been thinking, like I always think about, like,

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 2>oh do I go back to San Francisco because I

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 2>think that San Francisco.

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It feels like when I can tell that when you

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>said it earlier, Oh my god. And you're in the

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>middle of a fast just so people who are listening,

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>yeah and watching, know that what does it fast do

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>for you?

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, one, I just released my fasting guide because I've

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 2>been fasting for the past nine years. Not all nine years,

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 2>but at the top of each year, I fast in

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 2>order to like really get the signs, like clear signs.

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I we all are connected to source, right,

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 2>but some of our connections are clogged. And so the

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>way that I declogged that connection is by fasting. And

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 2>so it started off with a Daniel fast and then

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I became alkaline for two years, and I did a

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 2>raw fast juice cleanse, and now I'm a full liquid

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>forty day fast. I'm like thirty something days in. But

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 2>for me, it makes the signs that I'm getting from

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 2>the universe undeniable, okay, and I like for it to

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 2>be undeniable. And sometimes like we like to fight with

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 2>spirit when he say leave that nigga, and you like, yeah,

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>but he just sent me three hundred dollars on cash

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 2>ever or seven thousand dollars or whatever, and he's just

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 2>got a you know, but he's talking to me nice

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's and it's like, you know.

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 3>What I mean?

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 2>And I have I have I have a history of

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>women in my family. There is some like energy with

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 2>like men, like I don't know what the hexes or whatever,

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and it causes sickness, like being with the wrong guys,

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I think, or the wrong people in general can make

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 2>us sick and or being around the wrong people. And

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I remember one time I fast. I was fast thing

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 2>and I you know, used to like to be outside.

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And during this fast, I was like, oh, I want

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 2>to go very internal. I want to spend time alone.

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 2>And it was in San Francisco and I was getting

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 2>all of it, and I was like doing energetic cord

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 2>cutting ceremonies, like whatever chords are still attached to my

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.439
<v Speaker 2>energy or benefiting from my energy, God, please cut them down.

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And instantly I like that.

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I was receiving text messages are you mad at me? Hey,

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard from you, because the people who are

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 2>still clicked into your energy that you.

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 6>Didn't cut that chord, and they feel it. If you

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 6>ever do that with an ass and cut the cord, watch.

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Them try to reach out to you. There's some Mariam

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 2>has and I have some cord cutting meditations and you

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>can just visualize like yes, because when people when you

0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 2>meet people, it's like a I was thinking about octopus,

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, you know, people snap onto your energy

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:04.879
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it can be good.

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you have like a past life connection or we

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 2>think about soulmates, right, that core connection lightens us up, right,

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 2>because it's something that was meant to be, say, right,

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And we can have soulmates and friends or partners. But

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>then sometimes you have energy leeches that come in and

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 2>they want to be around you, and they like what

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 2>you got and they like how you look. Let me

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 2>take your pictures, let me be your photographer for free,

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 2>let me do your house at a discounted rate, right,

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, and they snap onto your energy. I'm like,

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have let that woman in my house, but

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know at the time, right, you know.

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>So because we want to believe the best. Yeah, I

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>think that's the thing. I never want to feel so

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>jaded that I don't believe that people have good intentions.

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>But people don't have good intentions all the time.

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes, people, you know. Yes, And so for me, when

0:45:52.920 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm fasting, it's like the veil is off, I'm seeing Everything's.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Give you a lot of clarity that saying does give you,

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.320
<v Speaker 1>like that clarity where you can when you're not faint,

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>where you can see things like very clearly, and you

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 1>can just you know, feel everything and you think.

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>And for me, I'm like dang, what's been in this

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 2>food I've been eating? You know in fact that I

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>remember when I was alkaline. I had I was alkaline

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 2>for two years and I had alcohol like wine by accident,

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and I felt the sugar rush through my veins in

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 2>a way that I have never felt before. And so

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I always think too like twenty twenty four was hard.

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was. I was.

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like.

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Celebrating more but eating more, and I'm like, well, what

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 2>am I compensating for? I'm over eating. I don't do that.

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm eating stuff that I don't usually eat what I

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 2>don't do that, And so fast thing helps me to

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>be like, listen, this is what happened. This is what happened.

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 2>This is what happened, This is what happened. This is

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 2>what we need to process, and this is what you

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 2>need to let go of if you want to ascend

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to the next level that you saying that you want

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 2>to ascend to, this is what you need to do.

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Clear now, Listen, when I did the two week fast,

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>we weren't allowed to have we weren't well, we weren't

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 1>supposed to have sex either.

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Now did you palli.

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Or twice?

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But so what about abstaining from sex? Have you ever

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:22.240
<v Speaker 1>done that? I see a lot of people talking about

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that recently, Like who was it just I was I

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>was just talking about well, obviously Lenny Kravitz said that

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>he did pretty V and b Simone. It was somebody

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 1>else that we recently reported was Oh Redman said that

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:40.880
<v Speaker 1>after his divorce, going through this bad divorce, he abstained

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>from sex. So have you ever practiced abstinence?

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes? When I actually when I became alkaline, I was like, actually,

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to date myself and I'm not going to

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.240
<v Speaker 2>have sex. And when I tell you, I was so clear,

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I was so alive, I was so in like because

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm because also sex connects.

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 1>You to people's energy deposits.

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I think my fiance two years nice. It's

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 2>just a different thing because also then you realize when

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 2>you're out, am I out because I want to I

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>want to do something? Or am I out because I

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 2>want to be? And so your intentions have to be

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>clearer because it's like, oh, at the end of the night,

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 2>nothing's going to happen. So I'm actually just moving how

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to move. I'm not going to be here

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 2>till two am. Trying to see if I'm.

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Not doing let out right, let's say what we're doing exactly.

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 1>How important is sex to you in your relationship? You know,

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>some people I think as we get older, when I

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>was younger, maybe it was more important. I think my

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend would say it's extremely important. But like for you,

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 1>if you had to say on percentage wise, like what

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>if the sex wasn't amazing, could you still be in

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, could you still be with somebody? Like what's

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the importance of it?

0:48:56.520 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I think sex is extremely poortant, but I think it's

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 2>the kind of sex Like I'm a sensual person, so

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and I and I'm a pleasure seeker. Maybe pleasure is

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>like my thing that I'm you know that I love.

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm always like, what is pleasurable to me? I want

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 2>to feel what's pleasurable and so pleasurable relationships things can

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>be pleasurable and intimate in a way that is sexy.

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 2>That like just like just having sex. To have sex

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:32.800
<v Speaker 2>for me is like not necessarily anything, But there's something

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 2>about having pleasurable sex, intentional sex, tantric sex that I'm like, oh,

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 2>we are tapping into another level because for me, that

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 2>sort of pleasure center, my kundalini. That's where my creativity

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:55.399
<v Speaker 2>comes from. So I'm always down handling. Now, Yes, that's

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 2>that root shot, that's that. Yeah, you're labunda.

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not using that. Listen, get with his kundalini before

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you try anything else.

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 3>It kind of sounded like that Italian woman's pasta for

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 3>a second, and.

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 2>It probably was.

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Because even I would say this, when you do a

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>detox or fast right, it is the reason they tell us.

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>They told me to like abstain during that is because

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:24.879
<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be like detoxing things and you don't

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:27.919
<v Speaker 1>want nobody, like, you know, getting their detox. I guess

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>your detox stuff all over them. I don't know what

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 1>there is for him.

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Injecting his Shuggary kool aid inside, but some people will

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 2>tell you if you want to get pregnant, to do

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 2>a detox because it kind of clears the path. Oh nobody, don't.

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Listen. I heard you say Polly earlier.

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, Oh my gosh, how long were you guys together,

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you and Drea before you guys got engaged, before you propose?

0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And how did you know that this was your person for.

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Like a year and some change. But I went to

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 2>uh to Loom by myself. I like visited a friend

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and then I was like, oh, I need to have

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 2>a moment by myself, and I did some shrooms and

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I like I had on these Gucci slides that I

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 2>had broke. I had twisted my ankle in d r

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 2>N and I was after that exactly, and so I'm

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 2>walking down this uh, I'm walking down this, this, this, this,

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 2>this the beach, and spirit just said let them go,

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 2>so I like let them go into the water. And

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 2>now I'm walking barefoot and I'm like having these downloads

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 2>from from from doing this plant medicine, and it just

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, this is what I am supposed to do.

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And now I also am a person that believes and

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 2>sometimes like we're supposed to do stuff that we don't

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 2>have fully have the language for, even if it's like

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:01.840
<v Speaker 2>just to just unlock this thing, right or just to

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 2>unlock whatever the thing is, right, But I'm hearing this

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.879
<v Speaker 2>is what you are, like, this is your person, right,

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:12.759
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm like, oh, okay, interesting. And so then

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I started thinking about this trip to Jamaica that we

0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 2>were already taken in all of this, and it became

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 2>clear to me that like, oh, this this meet and

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 2>this person, the way that we line up, the way

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:27.720
<v Speaker 2>that we the way that we think is so in sync,

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 2>the way that we are so in sync, Like like

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 2>she is my best friend first to me.

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>She is always said that's the most important thing.

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, we can just hang out, hang out,

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>hang out. And if she was here right now, it

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 2>would we would just be like it's like sick. And

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 2>my family loves her and it feels like she is

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 2>a she's a natural addition, you know. And so and

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 2>so I was like, Okay, then I'm going to to

0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 2>to do this. And so it's interesting too as a

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 2>poly person, sometimes people don't think that like poly people

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 2>want to settle down or poly people want to whatever.

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like it is important for me to

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>have a core, to have like a home space that

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 2>that is really important and to and to be okay

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 2>with how things change and shift, to know that like

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 2>my forever is my quest for my pleasure. That's the

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 2>thing that I'm really committed to forever. And so and

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:29.760
<v Speaker 2>this is so pleasurable right now, This is so beautiful

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 2>right now. And so and I love that, you know,

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 2>and I and I am a fan of of of that,

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm a fan and I love love, you know,

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and and I'm so in love with with how smart

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 2>she is and and how dedicated she is to the

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 2>people around her and how she can just elevate an

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 2>idea like that.

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So what are the rules when it comes to your

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 1>poly relationship? Like, what do you guys when you discuss this?

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 1>How does this work?

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:02.280
<v Speaker 2>So we have agreements and as long, and it's important

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 2>when niggas just be like, yeah, well I'm polly. If

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 2>if you say show me your agreements and he don't

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 2>have no agreement or agreement, that means he doing what

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 2>he wants exactly, because agreements sets up expectations. So I

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:20.759
<v Speaker 2>can't say like if we if you do something and

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you come and tell me, but we don't have any agreements,

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I could just be like, well, I don't understand why

0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you're mad, right, there's no accountability there.

0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 1>We said we agreed to have this and souse, it's

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>different than an open relationship, right.

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.880
<v Speaker 2>And so for me when I came into it, and

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it was like maybe in twenty twenty, I

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 2>was like taking this energy is sovereignty course, and I

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 2>decided that I was going to make a a a

0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 2>poly framework for myself that was going to be this

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.239
<v Speaker 2>is like, this is this is how I am as

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a lover. These are my love languages, this is my

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 2>hout ability methods, this is my communication style. It has

0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:05.440
<v Speaker 2>all of this in this packet, right, Because I was

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:08.120
<v Speaker 2>dating and women were like, well, y is poly because

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you want to have that, and yeah, it was so

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 2>many misconsumptions. So I'm like, if you want to know why,

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 2>here's the packet. If it's not in the package precisely, yes,

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and that's my burg Yes, it's like very it has

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:29.359
<v Speaker 2>to be that because I don't like to repeat myself either.

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 2>And so while I'm dating, I'm like, oh my god,

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm having these same conversations. Let me put it right.

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 2>And so then you can say, oh, actually I don't

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 2>like that stuff, so I'm not gonna date you. Right,

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 2>we know we can cut out that for everybody to

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 2>come with that, right, And so or I love this,

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 2>this is where I fit in or how I want

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to engage, And so I already had this poly framework

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 2>or this love framework that that I sent to her,

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and so she already knew kind of sort of like

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 2>baseline of where we were coming from. And then I

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, and she's not inherently an open person.

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 2>She would consider herself maybe a monogamous person who's trying

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 2>out openness, right, And so I was like, you know,

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.840
<v Speaker 2>before we get married, I would like for us to

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 2>be in practice of polyamory just so we can know,

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 2>like if this is gonna work, you know, because I

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:27.239
<v Speaker 2>love you and you're my friend. But I also have

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of years like being like, well, I

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 2>guess I'm being polyshamed people being like well, you know,

0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 2>listening to what people who are not of my experience

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:40.320
<v Speaker 2>have had, right, you know, And so I'm like, no, actually,

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I am a radical lover and these are the reasons why.

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 2>And as a relationship anarchist and an anarchist in my

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 2>real life, if I'm as a queer, non binary person

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 2>pushing up against the patriarchy in these ways, I also

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 2>have to in my relationship styles. And so for me

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.840
<v Speaker 2>in years thinking about like what are the scripts that

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I learned and who am I? And if those things

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>don't line up, then I'm at dissonance with myself. And

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:12.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot of what I was doing was things that

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I learned, like there were times where I was like,

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I felt dirty having sex with men because my boyfriend

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 2>of the longest time like treated me like a Barbie

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:24.200
<v Speaker 2>doll because like he was the one of the only

0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 2>people that I had been with, and so I was like, oh, well,

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 2>this is how it should be right. And then I

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I'm trying to be not how I

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be right. But I had to figure

0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:42.920
<v Speaker 2>out what I liked. I had to like explore for.

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Myself and more people should.

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's a misconception of the queer community

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 3>where mostly coming from heterosexual people, that queer people are promiscuous,

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 3>fast or slut whatever the word is. And I really

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 3>feel like the difference is is you guys are way

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 3>more willing to have the conversation about what you're honestly

0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 3>feeling about things. I feel like heterosexual couples do not

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.120
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about what they really want. That's why

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 3>these men are going to dominatrix and doing weird Yeah,

0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 3>only fans paying on these women's bills and then want

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 3>to be mad on the other turn that you're paying

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 3>every two million dollars whatever it is, but then don't

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 3>want you to do it, but I don't want to

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 3>talk to you about the fact that they like they

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 3>like it, and they want you to be conservative, but

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 3>we're not gonna be to which one is it right?

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So what the girls is right?

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 2>And so for me, I'm like, I could live in

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 2>the imaginary worlds of like, oh you have to be

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:41.240
<v Speaker 2>like or I can figure out what I like and

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 2>tell people that I like it, because then I've been

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of situations where people want you to

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 2>do something, but they actually don't know what it is

0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 2>that they want you to do because they haven't explored themselves.

0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in the business of trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what you want.

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I know what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't even have a baseline, now there's stuff

0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:01.680
<v Speaker 2>that we can explore together, but if you don't even

0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 2>know at a base level what you want, is harder

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 2>for me to engage. And so then for me, I

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 2>mean when we got into a relationship, I had a

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:15.959
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend and and then I was dating my fiance who's

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 2>my now my fiance and my girlfriend they planned my

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<v Speaker 2>birthday together. It was beautiful, it was wonderful, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were in communication.

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Your girlfriend and your your ex girlfriend and your fiance

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<v Speaker 1>planned your.

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<v Speaker 2>Birthday, yes, and it was nice and it was for me,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that's the sort of like I'm also I

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<v Speaker 2>love open communication, Like if if if I'm dating this person,

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm dating this person, I want you to know

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<v Speaker 2>each other so that y'all know that these people have

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:42.160
<v Speaker 2>good intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, don't try this at home. Not don't listen to

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Jerry and you go home and be like, hey, you

0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>me him.

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<v Speaker 2>Child. But for me, I it's like it's helpful. And

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<v Speaker 2>you could say, actually I don't don't want to know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people don't have conversation, and yeah, the communication is

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<v Speaker 4>the key precisely.

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<v Speaker 1>So birthday coming up? What are your plans? Who's playing

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<v Speaker 1>in this birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>Turn thirty? I'm turning thirty one, thirty one? Yes, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>who is playing this birthday? So I didn't have it

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<v Speaker 2>at my uh my friend's arena has this beautiful shop.

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<v Speaker 1>In that very stylish Yeah, I love her. I randomly

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be in Saint Martin with her for New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just telling me about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing yes, and so she is so fly.

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<v Speaker 2>She opened up this what do you call it? This, this, this,

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<v Speaker 2>this where you could go and get styled, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at this beautiful I think it was this Winnie Harlowe's

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<v Speaker 2>house that she sold, okay, and so it's it's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants to have events there, and so I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely can have my birthday. But now with the fires,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, I don't know, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a tough thing to navigate, even just with promoting this show.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I show that like I am very empathetic

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<v Speaker 2>to as a person who has experienced multiple house fires,

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<v Speaker 2>empathetic to what is happening, and also like celebrate that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making it to thirty one, or celebrating that that

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<v Speaker 2>season three is dropping and it's our final season. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's an interesting balance.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I think that people do always need

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<v Speaker 1>an escape from every day thinking about or experiencing what

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<v Speaker 1>they're experiencing. And Harlem is show that is so well

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<v Speaker 1>written and so well done and by the way, so

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<v Speaker 1>sad that is the last season. I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we have, right, you know, But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we got the first couple of episodes, so we feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, hopefully there's a movie, if anybody else let go

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<v Speaker 2>because the.

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<v Speaker 1>Cliffhanger last season, somebody was pregnant. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>give that away, but that was the cliffhanger seen that

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<v Speaker 1>last season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but definitely make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>let people know. I mean, we appreciate you for coming through.

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<v Speaker 1>I had, we had such an amazing conversation with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk to you some more after this, because absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's some things they need to be ex question.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm so excited about what's next with this, with

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<v Speaker 5>the season because I'm three c three episodes in, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>like and now.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they gave us.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about you personally now that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>last season, you know, you have a lot going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like you'll be able to do kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what you want. What is that like now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I have been Actually I wrote this one woman's

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<v Speaker 2>show called What We Lost in the Fire about the

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<v Speaker 2>fire that I had when I was thirteen where my

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<v Speaker 2>house burned down and the reason why it was unsolvegable

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<v Speaker 2>was because there was no water in the holes because

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<v Speaker 2>in Philly in the summertime, and right and so but

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<v Speaker 2>the but the but the But the play is really

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<v Speaker 2>about about generational trauma and how I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>the end of this, like how I can heal my

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<v Speaker 2>family line and so like finding that trauma, that that

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<v Speaker 2>trauma source and burning it because because fire can also

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<v Speaker 2>be renewal, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can be about I tell Marlon Wayne saying that it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Right about about a new beginning and then what happens

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<v Speaker 2>after the fire and so and but in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like an interactive space. It happens in like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a warehouse or a museum where you're interacting with my

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<v Speaker 2>family line before you get into the show. And the

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<v Speaker 2>show is like a ritual, like a fire ritual for

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<v Speaker 2>people to be able to release their stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so so that's what I'm that's amazing. I learn

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<v Speaker 2>that some funding comes through.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see I already have a space in mind

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<v Speaker 1>in New York because I go to there, I go

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<v Speaker 1>to plays all the time out here. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see that. Yes, yeah, and I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>given what has happened, Yeah, it can be very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean not even now, but even down the

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<v Speaker 3>line as people start to really process what's going on,

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<v Speaker 3>look back.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wanted to be the first player art Bosele.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, now okay, okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Which one Miamiam? Or there's three of them on Miami?

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<v Speaker 3>What's the old more so there's the one in not Japan,

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<v Speaker 3>Germ and then maybe it is Tokyo. It's not the one,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's three.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would go I would love to be all

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but Miami would be a good Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so that would They would love that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's much something like that as much needed. I

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<v Speaker 1>could see them doing that at like you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>do events at mansions and stuff like that that they

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<v Speaker 1>ran out there. I think they could see that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then break give them right, Well, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate your openness honestly, like great conversation. This felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it could have been a one woman show, like

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<v Speaker 1>because we just love hearing you tub But wait before

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<v Speaker 1>we go, can we address something?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Because this is by this is bothering me because I

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<v Speaker 5>don't like being accused of being shape.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you may not know anything about this, but

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of we had an episode on there was

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<v Speaker 1>a two different podcasts, My Expert Opinion, Math, Haffa and

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<v Speaker 1>Field and Bag for You, and they used hone used

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<v Speaker 1>to be on Matthoffice podcast My Expert Opinion, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we had them on lip Service, had bag Fuel on

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<v Speaker 1>lip Service and then Matt Haffa showed up and it

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<v Speaker 1>turned into like a little screaming and people thought we

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<v Speaker 1>were being messy.

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<v Speaker 5>People thought we set them up. We lined them up,

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<v Speaker 5>did not allowed him to ambush the show. And it

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<v Speaker 5>was not that by It was not a.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Springer situation. And just to put it to rest,

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Osario was guest hosting. As you can see on

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<v Speaker 1>the second episode, she's on My Expert Opinion, So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you know, she probably mentioned. She did mention to

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<v Speaker 1>Math that she was coming and that badfew was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode, I purposely didn't have her on there

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew she was on the other show. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's my friend, and you know then right when we

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<v Speaker 1>were starting the episode, she told me Math wants to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you a gift. I didn't know if they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to run into each other, but I also know

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<v Speaker 1>they have seen each other in public previously. Spoken was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to go to eat, were supposed to whatever tuck.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a business dispute.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not no.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody nobody's about to fight. It's no conversation. So everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's like somebody could have got killed and d.

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<v Speaker 5>D like the grown mens in their mind, they're doing

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<v Speaker 5>things pieces on this whole thing, and they're painting us

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<v Speaker 5>in the show and a whole out to be like

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<v Speaker 5>the bad guy in this whole situation, even though some

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<v Speaker 5>people enjoy even though a lot of people enjoyed it,

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<v Speaker 5>and s O and Heine can definitely understand what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It was going, Yeah, he wasn't answered they wanted. They

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<v Speaker 1>were okay with him sitting down. He wasn't even going

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<v Speaker 1>to but they had a conversation and you know, talked

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<v Speaker 1>about some things. Everybody there were other names mentioned. People

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to me to tell me, like the real

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<v Speaker 1>stories behind the scenes. So hopefully they all get back

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<v Speaker 1>together and listen.

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<v Speaker 5>We were able to have something happen in a safe

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<v Speaker 5>space and the talk was had and it was all

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<v Speaker 5>just very random, but it happened, and it's something that

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<v Speaker 5>needed to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And people thought we had an action mic like it

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<v Speaker 1>was planned. We had action mike because we had another episode.

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<v Speaker 5>We had a second episode, so that's what we's like,

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<v Speaker 5>we need to address them.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever done ayahuasca since you talked about being

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<v Speaker 1>into loom.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to so bad, Yes, but I have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I've been. I've been like, okay, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want me to do this, I need to find

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<v Speaker 2>the right shaman. Yeah, you know what does it?

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<v Speaker 1>If you like Chelsea Handler, she was so doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>She did a whole Netflix special on Chelsea on Drugs

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<v Speaker 1>with ayahuasca and she was like, let's do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>we all did it. I'll do it and talking about

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it with else.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, let's do it. Let's do a trip where

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<v Speaker 2>do Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I would love that. I want to do it so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's I am. I'm just scared because they say sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>people like ship on themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what you're scared about.

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<v Speaker 1>That goes every time. That's the one thing I cared about.

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<v Speaker 2>But the yeah, before every day like.

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<v Speaker 1>To day sometimes, Yeah, I'm nervous, But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you only could say that because you're doing your detox

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, so you know you're not going to problem like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>This whatever lump of whatever I had inside me that

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<v Speaker 2>needs to come out coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I did my first Kolonic. That was interesting, love clon.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not need were you were you on to

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<v Speaker 2>sit down?

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<v Speaker 6>One?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean so you lay down? Yeah? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>But my myklonic woman who's here in New York Coop,

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<v Speaker 2>I love her. She said that there is a way

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<v Speaker 2>to sit down and they leave you in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>In the room, Oh wow, no sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>They had me laying I was she left the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of like laying half up.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No, I just don't like the leaving you in

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<v Speaker 2>the room thing. I think that that's just traumatizing.

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<v Speaker 1>We rather to be alone every time be alone, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want every time I've done In conversation she

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<v Speaker 1>has like, yeah, that's it, you come check, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need you see, like, you know that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like you had a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, yeah, or maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>again then we can do I us ship everywhere. It

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<v Speaker 1>may might not happen, but anyway, again, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And Harlem season three, the final season. I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to see where you're character goes on here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because we live for this character. She got money, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's lift service