1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. Megan Lindsay. I feel like 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: I've known you forever, but I actually only met you 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and we quickly discovered we 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: were both Louisiana natives. I feel like that's why we 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: feel connected. I think so probably like it's in a root. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: We're tell the people where you're from, because I talk 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot about being from Batton Rage. So well, I 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: was born in New Orleans and I grew up on 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: the West Bank to the West Bank, Yeah, the best Bank. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: And then we moved to Pontatula, which is not far 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: from Batten right, kind of in the middle actually, so 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: it's just like North and New Orleans, like small town. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Is that where you grew up? Yeah? Wow, we moved 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: there and I was like ten. I think, okay, I 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: went to high school and everything there. How did you 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: end up here? I think we talked about this maybe 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: over a couple of tequilas, so it's all very vague. Yeah, 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I remember that conversation. Um, just 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean music, you know, Nashville is kind of the 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: place to go, and I knew that I still wanted 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: to be. You know, at the time, Nashville is so small, 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: it was such a small town, but the industry was here, 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: so I was like, I feel like that would be 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: a good I was eighteen when I moved out, you know, 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: so I was like, like, that's a good place to go. 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: And it's still not so far away. It still feels 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: like the South too. That was my big selling point. 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Like I graduated from l G and I was like, 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: I still want to be in the South because I 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: was too scared to go to like in l A 32 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Or New York. Yeah, I think I was too scared 33 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: for that. But you had the music industry. So were 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: you always a singer? I grew up saying I was 35 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: in bands and like I did. I would play bars 36 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: and I was like fifteen and all did all that stuff. 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: And then I was coming to Nashville and high school 38 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: kind of back and forth, and I had played the 39 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Bluebird and some writers rounds and stuff in h Yeah. 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: I just was like, I think I swear I below, 41 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, I spell drawn here just now I've been 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: here forever. It feels like home. Yeah, I met here 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: longer maybe I've lived here. I lived here almost as 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: long as I lived in New Orleans, Louisiana. Yeah. Yeah, 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: So when you first came, I remember you talking about that. 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: She worked at Lonnie's, the karaoke bar. And if anyone 47 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: has ever been to Nashville, especially if you've gone to 48 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: like a bachelorette or you've gone anywhere downtown, I feel 49 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: like you've probably popped in Lonnie's. It's so fun. You 50 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: can only buy a bucket of beer, which is like 51 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: the best thing. Ever. What was that experience like actually 52 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: working there, because I imagine it to be a little 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: bit like Coyote Ugly or was Yeah, so what exactly 54 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: what it felt like? I well, and Kyote Ugly was like, 55 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we're about the same age. I'm thirty five. 56 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: That movie came out when I was in high school. 57 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: It was like I went into Lonnies and I'm like, 58 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm like living in a movie. There 59 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: were girls on the bar, yeah, girls thinking you know 60 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: this girl Cynthia I met she's also a singer, but 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: um I met her randomly out with people and she 62 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, do you need a job, And I'm like, yeah, 63 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: I just moved here. She's like, come with me, and 64 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: basically just took me down to Printer's Alley and we 65 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: walked in and Lonnie was there. So there's an actual Lonnie. Well, 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: there's a Lonnie. I didn't even know this. Oh yeah, 67 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: I know Lonnie real well. But he was like, can 68 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: you sing? I'm like, yeah, that's what I do. And 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: he's like, well, get up and sing and I'll give 70 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: you a job. So I got up and I sang 71 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: and he gave me a job. So that was kind 72 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: of my first like taste of, you know, performing downtown Nashville. 73 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: I remember walking in there though, and thinking like, holy 74 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: sh it, like everybody's so good. Yeah, everybody here is, 75 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, because you moved from you know, you're the 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, you're a big fish in a small pot. 77 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, you're like, oh, I'm I'm really good in 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: my hometown, you know, and and I mean I it 79 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: kind of crushes your confidence a little bit because you're like, okay, 80 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: but it also pushes you, I think, to be better, 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: like okay, well I have to be you know, on 82 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: another level now. So yeah, I've had friends who have 83 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: come to visit Nashville and they're like, I don't understand. 84 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: You can literally walk into any bar here and the 85 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: music is insane. And I mean it's so true. The 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: talent down town even like just especially is and those 87 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: are the people who haven't made it yet. Like there's 88 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: so many talented people here and celebrities and you know, 89 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: musicians touring and all that stuff, and these people are 90 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: working downtown and they're equally as good. But it's just 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: exactly but it's just there's it's so competitive. It's really competitive. Yeah, 92 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: was it kind of like I want to know a 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: little bit about behind the scenes at Lonnie's. Was it 94 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: like a cat fight a little bit? Ever? Not really? 95 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I I cant I'm a stagittarius. I 96 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: get along with every o. But um, I mean I 97 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: kind of became friends with with most of the girls. 98 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean there's a couple. Yeah, there's a little of that. Yeah, 99 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: But it was happiness yea. And fighting for like the schedule, 100 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: you know, getting on certain shifts and like making your money. 101 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: It was a whole thing. But I don't know it 102 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: was it was overall. It definitely shaped me. I feel 103 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: like I learned a lot. Don't you feel like if 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: you can get up and do that kind of thing 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: and entertain people who are drunk and just want to 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: have fun and saying any song that's requested. I mean 107 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: that to me really does kind of groom you for 108 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: being able to perform in any kind of environment. Yeah, 109 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: it's just you. And that that was my whole thing 110 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: I realized, you know, from playing in bands through high 111 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: school and then moving here. I was like, oh, like, 112 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: now I'm just up here about myself. Yeah, I don't 113 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: have a band to like help me out, and I 114 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: have to entertain people for you know, this four or 115 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: five hour shift. You know, that's a long time to 116 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: have to like people's attention. Yeah, how did you? How 117 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: did you wrangle the drunk people that got up to sing? 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean you at least we had like, you know, 119 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: wranglers just be like, Okay, this guy's gotta good. It's 120 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: a little too much. Oh my god, Well so we 121 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: The lonniest thing is how you started. But I think 122 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: most people probably got to know you when you were 123 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: in the band Steel Magnolia, and that was a duet 124 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: that you were in with your boyfriend at the time. 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: How did that start? Weren't you guys on a reality 126 00:05:54,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: show too. Yeah, I've been on a couple same right. Um, 127 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: how we met, Uh, we met downtown. I was working 128 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: in Perner's Alley. I was working at Kelly's. Yeah, because 129 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: that was that well that if you stay behind the 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: snees with Lonnie's, that was a thing because Lonnie would 131 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: fire you or take you off the schedule and you 132 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: go work at Kelly's for a while, you take your 133 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: regulars with you, and then Lonnie would be pesting he'd 134 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: hired you back. So it was like you're always jumping 135 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: back and forth around the two bars. But um, but yeah, 136 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: so we met at Kelly So when I was working 137 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: at Kelly's and he got up and sang and we 138 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: kind of we really just started dating. And then the 139 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: band thing kind of okay, Yeah, what is it like 140 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: to date a person that you worked with? Because I 141 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: can't imagine ever doing that. It depends on who you're dating, 142 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, because like the with with Josh, it was 143 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: so you know, I don't know how to describe it 144 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: was as we were constantly at odds, you know. And 145 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: then with you know, my my fiance now, like we're 146 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: so good together, like we just we worked so well together, 147 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, so it's not it's never an issue. I 148 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it matters, you know, how your 149 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: relationship real, it's healthy, you know. Well, let's talk a 150 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: little bit about that. I actually want to get to 151 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: your fiance later because I got to witness you guys 152 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: together and it was so amazing. You guys are both 153 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: extremely talented, but y'all do have such a good, positive, 154 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: supportive energy that you just feel when you guys are 155 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: around each other, and that's kind of I think, goals 156 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: for a relationship, you know. But like I think we've 157 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: all been in the other kind of relationship, and so 158 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: I always find it interesting to talk to women, especially 159 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: who I respect, and you have found success and especially 160 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: a successful relationship, like what explain that relationship dynamic? Explain 161 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of maybe some of the things that went on 162 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: for you and how that pushed you to become who 163 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: you are now. Yeah, I mean, you know, I was 164 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: so we met when I was twenty. I was a baby. 165 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: I think he was twenty. He's five years older than me, 166 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: so he must have been twenty five. But you know, 167 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: it was just one of those things where I was 168 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: like he was like the like cool, like didn't care 169 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: about anything, like, you know, like that kind of person, 170 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: like rock star kind of vibe, you know, and it 171 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's really exciting. When you're twenty, you're like, oh, 172 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: I want to date that guys. He's terrible, terrible right 173 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: with the exciting at the time at the time. Yeah, 174 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean we you know, I just I 175 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: kind of kind of went with it. I don't know, 176 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: I feel like there's people in your life that are 177 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: kind of like I'm I'm very like into what people 178 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: would probably call woo woo stuff. Same but everyone listening 179 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: to this podcast knows because we talk about astrology, psychics, therapy, 180 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: all of it. Yeah, I feel like there's people that 181 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: come in your life that are kind of like your 182 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: twin flame, which I feel like that was Josh for 183 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: me explain what that is. That's kind of like the 184 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: person that you're like, you're you're gonna meet that person, 185 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: and you're meant to meet them, but I feel like 186 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: they more or less teach you lessons and then you 187 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: move on. You think they're your soul mate, but they're not. 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: And that was kind of the deal with him, you know, 189 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, I'm so in love, we're 190 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: gonna get married, We're you know, I get all these plans, 191 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: but it was like I was always forcing it, you know, 192 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: and I was always chasing him around, which is I 193 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: know that stupid, don't do that. Never chase a boy. 194 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: Don't chase a boy. Um, And it's disappointing and it 195 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: just makes you, I don't know, it just makes you 196 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: not as you know, a good of a person as 197 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: you can be. I guess it's like takes it takes 198 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: a lot away from you. Yeah, don't you feel like 199 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: that kind of dynamic, especially as a woman. For me 200 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: at least, I feel like in relationships, I've made myself 201 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: small by doing that. And it's like I don't even 202 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: realize my own power because I'm so wrapped up and wait, 203 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: why don't they see my power? And it's like, why 204 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: don't I see my own power? You know, like you're 205 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: so worried about convincing them that becomes the big pursuit. Yeah. 206 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: So I was talking with you a little bit before, 207 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: and like, addiction is something I talked about a lot 208 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: on here. It's been each part of my life as well, 209 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: and so um Josh is openly talks about the fact 210 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: that he went to rehab and that was a part 211 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: of y'all's dynamic in your relationship. And so how do 212 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: you feel like that really affected you? Um? I feel 213 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: like I've always kind of been like the person that, 214 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, like the person that saves everyone, you know. 215 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: So I'm always the person that's you know, taking care 216 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: of everybody's saving everybody, enabler, you know. So I kind 217 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: of uh, you know, and up until recently, I was 218 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: attracting those people, you know, and so I I feel 219 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: like that was a big part of, you know, our 220 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: attraction was like I was taking care of him and 221 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: he was going off the rails all the time, you know, 222 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: and that was kind of it was this this constant thing. Um, 223 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: but I do I don't, you know, I feel like it. 224 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: It taught me. It taught me a lot, you know. 225 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: It teaches you a lot to go through that and 226 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: to realize like what you can handle and and how 227 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: strong you really are, and then also like just what 228 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: you won't put up with in the future because you're like, Okay, 229 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm never doing that again. Yeah you know. Yeah, my 230 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: astrologer actors actually said to me one time because I 231 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: was talking about a relationship, and he said, um, but 232 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: what if this relationship was only here to teach you 233 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: what you don't want? You know, I think we get 234 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: so focused as a society on forever and kind of 235 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of exactly like what you were saying about 236 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: the twin Flame, Like he was here to teach you 237 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: these lessons and maybe even about the things that you 238 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: don't ever want to be again or who you don't 239 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: want to be. But you had to have that relationship 240 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: to learn those lessons, which I don't know why does that. 241 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: It makes it a little easier to process, and I 242 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: think we all need those. Yeah, And I do feel like, 243 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, on the other side of that, I do 244 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: feel like he taught me a lot of a lot 245 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: of about myself, you know, and about I mean, he's 246 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: very much a personality where he doesn't care what anyone 247 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: thinks and he does his own thing. Yeah, he has 248 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: he has a lot of great qualities too. So it's 249 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: like I did learn a lot because I was such 250 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: a kid at the time, so I wasn't comfortable in 251 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: my own skin. I wasn't you know. There was also 252 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: the part of that where you know, he also made 253 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: me feel like really small and like I couldn't be 254 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't shine as bright as I knew I could, 255 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know. It was just like 256 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot of Evan flowing back and forth and just 257 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: a lot of resistance at the time. I imagine as 258 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: a duet and work that would make that even a 259 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: bigger dynamic. Yeah. I think people didn't realize, like because 260 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: we were at the time, we were signed a big machine, 261 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: and we had, you know, hits on the radio, and 262 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: all these good things were happening. Like everything I ever 263 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: wanted was happening. Like I had gotten really into like 264 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: the law of attraction, and I've written out my list 265 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: of things, you know, and I was saying it every 266 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: day and I marked everything off of my list in 267 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: a year mating. I was manifesting everything I wanted, which 268 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: was awesome, but I was also like miserable, you know 269 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like I was like, okay, you know, 270 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: like we just played the Operation, we just played Titan Stadium, 271 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: we did all these things, and I'm like not happy 272 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Yeah, I mean, it's 273 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: really cool. When you think back on it, You're like, oh, 274 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: that's really cool. I did that, but I was like 275 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: also just very like worried about what he was doing 276 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: all the time, or where he's going, or who he's 277 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: with her, is he coming? You know? We have these 278 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: interviews at seven am and he's not home at five, 279 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like just staying up 280 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: all night and worrying and then having to carry that weight. 281 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: It's like a huge weight. Oh my gosh. Did you 282 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: ever like what was the big moment? I think I 283 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: read that you guys had a tour where you were 284 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: opening who was it? We were? What we did? Um, 285 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: we did a bunch of tours, but maybe I think 286 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: it was the that was the big deal break around. Well, 287 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: that was right before so we had gone to San 288 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Diego to play a show and him and I were 289 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: just at that point we had been pretty done for months, 290 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: but trying to make it work. Of course, you know, 291 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: you're with somebody for so long and then you've got 292 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: a record deal and all these obligations. Yeah, you know, 293 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: it's a lot. I feel like it's a lot harder 294 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: than just like a normal break up. Yeah, you know. Um, 295 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: so it was it was a thing where we had 296 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: gotten really into it and I ended up leaving San 297 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: Diego early, and he stayed there and I don't know, 298 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: he was just you know, acting crazy and saying he 299 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: was going to do all these things. And then you know, 300 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: I talked to the label and the management and we 301 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we need to probably have an intervention 302 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: because he really needs help, you know. And I was helping. 303 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: I was happy to help him get that help, but 304 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I just wasn't at that point. I was so just 305 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: burned out and done and rested, yeah, and resentful. I 306 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: still loved him, of course, Yeah, I wanted him to 307 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: be okay. And I still feel that way about him, 308 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: Like I still want him to be okay. You know. 309 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: It's it's like it doesn't matter like what we went 310 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: through or what he's done to me, and I'm not 311 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: in love with him, but I just I just always like, yeah, 312 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: I want him to be okay. I want him to 313 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: be good. You know, Yeah, you just you know. So 314 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: that was kind of where we got to, and then 315 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: he ended up. We did the intervention. When he came back, 316 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: he went to rehab, and then the rebits where was 317 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: the next week? So you went? I went, I did 318 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: it so as a duo. You went as a single, 319 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: I went and um, my friend James Otto ended up 320 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: doing a lot of the shows with me. So good, 321 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, So James did a lot of the 322 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: duet songs with me, and then I did a couple 323 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: of solo songs, and then I did a couple of 324 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: James songs with him, and we just kind of made 325 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: it work. It was very last minute, we had to 326 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: throw it all together. But and I was heartbroken at 327 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: the time, so it was like trying to push through 328 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: and do shows every night and being so you know, sad. 329 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was hard. I think that's such an 330 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: interesting point about entertainers and performers, Like I don't know 331 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: if you've watched the Beyonce documentary that came out years ago, 332 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: and she was talking about when she had a miscarriage 333 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: and she would go out onto you know, go she's 334 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: out on this tour, go out every night to these 335 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: amazing performances, and then you just crawl in bed and 336 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: sob And that's just like so mind willing to think 337 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: about as a fan in the audience, because you're just 338 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: looking at it like these people are superhuman and the 339 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: reality is now they're actually exactly like us. Everyone's going 340 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: through the same thing. She's gotta like pick yourself up 341 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: by your boot shops and get back out there and 342 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: do it. It's crazy. Was there anything you did during 343 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: that time to kind of motivate you day to day 344 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: to get through those days? Um? You know, to be 345 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: honest with you, I was just a mess. Yeah, I 346 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: mean I was just like a blur. I was kind 347 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: of just going through the motions. Yeah, I like knew 348 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: what I had to do. I was like, I'm just 349 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: gonna go do it, you know, And then the rest 350 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: of the time I was just like, Yeah, I was 351 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: a sobbing mess. But we did. You know, you don't 352 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: know what you can do until you do it, you know. 353 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: So that was kind of that that moment for me 354 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: where I became like a grown up. Yeah what a't interesting? Yeah, 355 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: So the relationship ends, he goes to rehab. What happens 356 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: next for the band? We ended up Actually I don't 357 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: know how we did it, but we ended up continuing 358 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: to do shows together how long, Like god, I don't 359 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: even know too long. Um, maybe maybe a year, maybe two. 360 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I can't even remember. Everything is a blur from that time, 361 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: but we ended up we had shows coming up so 362 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: it was like and we got out of our record deal. Um, 363 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: we got of our deal. We kind of laid low 364 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: for a while and then we we talked and we're like, look, 365 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: we need to like pair bills, so maybe we go 366 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: back out on the road do some shows. I think 367 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: we can do this. Yeah, you know. And there were times. 368 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean and right around that time is when I 369 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: met Tyler. Oh my god, and he had a new girlfriend, 370 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: and I mean we'd go out on the road. He 371 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: would bring his girlfriend, I would bring Tyler. It was really, 372 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: um wow, really crazy. So you were able to just 373 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: maintain a business relationship. I've been squabb I throw a 374 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: coat Canada's head or something there too. He was asking 375 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: for it, but you know, that's that cage and ship 376 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: that comes out. People don't like get it. No, I 377 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: get it. We're like literally I have been in those 378 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: dynamics and I'm like, listen, I'm sorry, but if you 379 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: push me too far, you're not gonna like it because 380 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: I will be so calm until the Cajun comes out 381 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: and it's like the game is over. You get a 382 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: point you're like, no, I can't do this today more. No, no, No. 383 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: People don't understand until they see it though, because we 384 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: seem so nice, so nice and calm, chill for the 385 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: most part, I am until I'm not. Just like that, 386 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: it kind of boils up. Well, I'm really impressed that 387 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: you guys could keep that working dynamic. But it's also 388 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: like when you need to work, like we've been talking 389 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: about as a freelancer or as a person in the 390 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: music industry, I mean it's like you just have to 391 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: kind of do it sometimes. Yeah, you just push through 392 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: and do what you gotta do. Yeah, sometimes there's no 393 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: work too well, right like last year? Last year, um 394 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: so where did you go from there? Like, you guys 395 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: break up and then essentially the band kind of falls 396 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: apart and said what was next? You know, I didn't. 397 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I kind of just made a soul 398 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: a record and was figuring it out. And in the 399 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: midst of my figuring it out, I was in line 400 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: at a Panera bread and I was getting ready to 401 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: check out, and I got a phone call and it 402 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: was a producer for the Voice and she was like, hey, 403 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: you know I talked to this. You know, they did 404 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: a lot of scouting on YouTube at that time. Um 405 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: so they had seen a YouTube video of me singing 406 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: natural woman um and one of the producers had passed 407 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: her off to me, and she called me and she 408 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: was like, would you be interested in coming out to 409 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: tell later audition? And I was literally I was like, 410 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of paying, I was like, hey, can 411 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: I call you back? I was like, I'm Panera and 412 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: I need to pay for my lunch or whatever. So 413 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: like I got off the phone with her and I 414 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: pay and my total when I paid was eleven eleven 415 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: oh numbers people UM. So I was like, yeah, I 416 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: think I probably should go do that. So I called 417 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: her back and I was like, Hey, when do you 418 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: want me to come? And that was like a Friday, 419 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: and she was like, We're gonna fly out on Tuesday. Okay. 420 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm so confused because I always thought shows like that, 421 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: like you've had a record deal. I know you were 422 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: already like an established thing, and that's what I thought, too, 423 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: So how does that work? That's I guess, because if 424 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: you're independent, it's like any independent artist. But I didn't 425 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: have a deal at the time, and I was trying 426 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: to do my own thing, and that's kind of where 427 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: I was too. I was like, how do I even qualify? Pase? 428 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: Can I do that? You seem overqualified to me, do 429 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You've already been on tour, 430 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: like you already did all the record deals stuff, right. 431 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: But then I also was like, well, maybe it's an 432 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: opportunity because everybody knows me as like the girl from 433 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: Still and I'm trying to get people to know my name. 434 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: So it's a huge platform, and I'm like, maybe I 435 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: just go try it and see what happens. It's like 436 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: a rebranding it was, and they've had people, I mean, 437 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: they've had people that have done big things on there, 438 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, the Voice specifically, I feel like I feel 439 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: like I've seen more people from The Voice do stuff 440 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: after the American Idol. Maybe I don't know. I guess 441 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: it's I feel like American Idol they tend to like 442 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: fall off, but they pour more into their artists though, 443 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: the ones that do what like look at Kelly Clarkson 444 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: and Terry Underword. I mean, they have massive stars that 445 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: come out of the show. That's the only thing about 446 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: The Voice. I don't feel like you see like massive stars. 447 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: It's just they will have people who have already had 448 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: success come on in audition a lot more. Yeah, that 449 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: actually makes sense. It's you know, yeah, or you hesitant 450 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: to do a reality show. Yeah, talk about that because 451 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: I haven'ten throing that exact experience I had done Can 452 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: you Duet with Josh? So that's how Steel Magnoia got started, 453 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: was we were on a show on CMT, and um 454 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: so I kind of knew the process, you know, going 455 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: into the voice, but I knew obviously it was a 456 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: much bigger Yeah CMT versus NBC. Yeah, I was like, oh, 457 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: they have a budget and you know, you can sing whatever. 458 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: The show is huge. Yeah, so I kind of knew 459 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: the process, but I also knew it was a bigger deal. 460 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: But um yeah, it's mean. Honestly, it was cool because 461 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: I feel like with contest shows like that, it's different. 462 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: Now I've done some other things like reality like she 463 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: just did air quotes reality exactly. I've done some of 464 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: those two that that didn't air actually, which is probably 465 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: for the best blessing in disguise totally. But the contest 466 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: stuff is cool. The only thing with the voice I 467 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: feel like was it was very like with your image, 468 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: they were very like it had to get go through 469 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: like all these different people to approve just your outfit 470 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: or your hair, makeup, like all of that drove me 471 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: crazy because you couldn't. Did you feel like you couldn't 472 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: really fully be yourself? No? I wasn't. I couldn't at 473 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: all hardly. Yeah, I feel like that was very controlled. 474 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: The one thing that was great about it was that 475 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: they let me choose my songs. I came in with 476 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: arrangements and like they let me sing and do that 477 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: part of it. So the creative part, that part, Yeah, 478 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: that part was great was just I don't know, I 479 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: feel like clothes and hair and all that stuff is 480 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: so important. It is especially for like for your image. 481 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: It's a communication of your creativity and right. Yeah, so 482 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: that part was a bummer for me because I was like, 483 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm not really myself totally. But 484 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: you ended up finishing runner up, which is amazing. But 485 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: so what was the whole process like in general, Like, 486 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: I know Farrell picked you at first, right, and then 487 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: you ended up being on Blake's team. What does that matter, 488 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: like the like who your coaches or anything like that. 489 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think so I wanted to I went 490 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: in wanting to be on Farrell's team and then um, 491 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: I ended up getting three chairs. It was Farrell and 492 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: Christina and Adam. Um. I mean, that's got to be 493 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: a good day. I was scary though, because they waited 494 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: till my last note, like chairs, until I was like 495 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: on my very last note, and I was like, oh, 496 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: there's study. Like. I was like, this is what's happening. 497 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: They're getting the girl who had the record deal and 498 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna watch me follow my face like that still television. 499 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: All I could think was like, this is just you know, 500 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: because I feel like it's less of a risk if 501 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: you've not done something well yeah, because nobody knows your 502 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: name nobody totally. But if you've already had a deal 503 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: and you know, then it's like, oh god, like pressure. Yeah, 504 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: it's a lot of pressure. I was terry. I hated it. 505 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: I hated the Blunt Edition party, but um, but yeah, 506 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: So I went in wanting for all and I was 507 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: like I'm picking for all and then um, during the 508 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: battle rounds, I guess I got I got stolen or whatever. 509 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so that's how that works. Do you feel 510 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: like your days at Lonnie's helped you in the competition 511 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: and I'm serious though, because it's like you're like, you 512 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: know how to sing any song. You can get up 513 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: and just perform like quickly. Yeah, for sure. I think 514 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: all of it matters, you know, like just playing in 515 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: bands and doing the Lonnie stuff and just having been 516 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: and you know, high pressure situations. Yeah, because so much 517 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: of that too is just like being on and then 518 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: like hurry up and wait you know, oh god, yeah 519 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: that's production. Any production. Okay, Now we sit around for 520 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: eight hours and do nothing, do nothing, and yeah, and 521 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: you sleep when you can and you're trying not to 522 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: get sick. I got the flu during filming. Yes, did 523 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: you have to perform? I had a hundred and three fever. 524 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: Was that the battles are the knock I think it 525 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: was the knockouts? Yeah? I was really sick. Oh my god. 526 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about it. I just was like, 527 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: I just did it affect your voice? Kind of? Yeah? 528 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: I noticed it, right, you know, I'm good at pushing 529 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: through stuff, but I noticed. I actually can see. I 530 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: was watching it back and I'm like zooming it and 531 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm like I can see my nose is running, like 532 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: trying to nobody notices my nose is running on national television. 533 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: But of course this is pre pandemic, so it wasn't 534 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: as like right now you get her out of here absolutely, Well, 535 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: what's the one thing you would say you walked away 536 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: from that experience? Like what was the best thing you learned? 537 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think just me being me, you know, 538 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: on my own, like figuring it out, being in that situation, 539 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: like I have no one else to lean on but myself, 540 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's I think that that's it was important 541 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: to me, you know, was to go in there and 542 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: show people like this is who I am. You know, 543 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: this is what I have been through. I'm back, I'm 544 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: not you know, not dead yet. Yeah. Was there anything 545 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: that you would say, Um, since you've left the show, 546 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: like has that hindered you in any way or you know, 547 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: because people sometimes they're like a reality TV and people 548 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: have such a stigma around it. Has it affected you 549 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: in any sort of negative way or has it been good? No? 550 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: I try to just just in general, as a rule 551 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: in life, I try to like focus on the positive. 552 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: You know, Like obviously people will put labels on you 553 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: no matter what, So I don't know, I just kind 554 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: of use it to my befit when I can like 555 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: that's what it's for totally, you know, and I'm like, 556 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: you know, and then I kind of just try not 557 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: to think about the rest, just leave it, because it's like, 558 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know who I am, Like I know, 559 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, I write songs, I sing them like this 560 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: is what I do, you know, regardless of if there's 561 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: a voice or not. You know, there's absolutely no other 562 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: way to me, you know, like in my opinion, for 563 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: the type of exposure or just the kind of audience 564 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: you can reach versus a show like that. Yeah, Like 565 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean truly, especially as a young artist. I mean 566 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: it's just like you can't beat that kind of exposure. 567 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: And people don't realize that, I think when they're looking 568 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: at sometimes people who go to do these kind of shows. 569 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: But it's like, especially if you've never had experience, I mean, 570 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: it launches you into this place of all of a sudden, 571 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: like you overnight success in some ways, yeah, you have. 572 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: You have a lot more opportunities, doors open, absolutely, which 573 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: I find I'll also say this because it's like when 574 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: I was on the label with Being Machine and got 575 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: all the success, It's like I was doing all these 576 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: things and how all these writing sessions and had all 577 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: the stuff going on. Then I had this period of like, 578 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: you know, two or three years of nothing, you know, 579 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: where I'm like, you know, doing my thing, but like 580 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: people are people aren't calling like they used to call, 581 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, And then as soon as I got on 582 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: the voice, all of those people started calling again. So 583 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it's just and then you know 584 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: it ebbs and flows like that. You're like you find 585 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: out who you know your real friends are totally for sure, 586 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: like the people that really matter or who you actually 587 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: want to keep around. Yeah. Maybe Yeah, that's how you 588 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: figure out your circle. Man. Yeah, they can go real bad, 589 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: real fast too. Yeah. Well, another story I had UM 590 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: talked to you about mentioning is um, you recently are 591 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: when was this two thousand sixteen maybe came out and 592 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about the music industry and going through some 593 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: sexual assaults. Um, will you tell the story of what 594 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: happened to you? Yeah, I mean I had we were 595 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: talking about this before we went on. But it's like 596 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: you have these instances and you think that it's so 597 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: normalized that you don't realize that it is sexual soul right, 598 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: You're just like, oh, that's just what happens, like this 599 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: is just what this is what men do. This is 600 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: what men do, this is how the industry works, and 601 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: you just kind of go with the flow. But I 602 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: mean and honestly, like I talked about this experience on 603 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: my Facebook page, and I was not anticipating it to 604 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: go into like like on Yahoo dot com. That wasn't 605 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: like my initial goal with it. I was just kind 606 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: of talking like to my I wasn't even on my 607 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: artist pages, on my my personal cage, and I was 608 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: kind of just recalling this. Um. You know, I had 609 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: this experience where I was on the road UM back 610 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: in two thousand nine. I think I was just starting out. 611 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: I was like twenty three. I just signed my deal 612 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: with Big Machine and I was on my first tour 613 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: ever and Big Time promoter Guy um came on the 614 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: tour bus and he was very drunk, but he picked 615 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: me up, like underneath my skirt, um, like like a 616 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: scrapping picked me up and was trying to put me 617 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: on a stripper pole, which was super embarrassing because I'm 618 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: sitting there like in front of like the main artist 619 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: and like a lot of important people. UM. So I 620 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: made a scene out of the whole thing, because I 621 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: was like, put me down, like this is not cool, 622 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: you know. And my manager kind of at the time 623 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: was kind of just very like she kind of brushed 624 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 1: it off, and she told me to brush it off. 625 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: She's like, this is just you know, like if you 626 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: want to work like you don't say anything about this again. So, um, 627 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: that was you know, that happened. It became a thing. 628 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: He was super embarrassed, I could tell, and I super 629 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: embarrassed him in front of a bunch of very important people. 630 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: And then he came up to me the next night 631 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: at the show and backstage and he like whispered in 632 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: my ear. He came up behind me. He was like 633 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I have boats or something to the effect of, like 634 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: he has. It's bigger than I've ever seen. That he 635 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: can put me on the middle of the ocean and 636 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: no one would ever hear from me again, and don't 637 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: I forget it, you know. And I was like, Okay, 638 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: well that's how this works, you know. Um. So that 639 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know that that really put things 640 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: into perspective for me because I was like, oh, this 641 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: is how you know this is gonna be. Um, And 642 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: obviously I've had so many more experiences than that. Even 643 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: at that, we're worse, um honestly, but um, with that, 644 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: it was just like, man, he was, he's he's very 645 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: well I don't ever I've never said his name, but 646 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: he's very well known. He does a lot, you know, 647 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: and he's like he runs everything, you know. And so 648 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess i'd better be quiet, you know that. 649 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sitting here and I'm like seething because 650 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: I've been through similar things, and it's like it's so frustrating, 651 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: um to look back and you're talking about sitting on 652 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: a tour bus with other men who literally they could 653 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: have even been like oh that's not right or whatever, 654 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: but like they've never experienced what that would feel like, 655 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: you know. And so first of all, you're an amazing 656 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: singer and a performer and all of these things, and 657 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: it just is such a downgrade to be treated like that, 658 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: Like you can't even like think about, oh, she's an 659 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: amazing singer, because the guys are like, oh, yeah, she's 660 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: got a hot ass or something. And so to be 661 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: like put down to that level and not looked at 662 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: for your talent or anything like that, it's just the 663 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: worst feeling. But I know for me, and I don't 664 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: know if you felt this, but it's like when that 665 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of stuff happens, I think I even started to 666 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: look at myself that way, like there was there definitely, 667 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: unfortunately for me, even similar experiences. And I remember feeling 668 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: like this pressure for a long time after, like I 669 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: better look cute at work because that matters, and maybe 670 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: that's why I'm getting jobs or you know, like I 671 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: stopped forgetting the skill set that I have because it 672 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: just or it just like I felt like an in 673 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: addition to that, I better be cute too, for sure, 674 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: which is a terrible feeling. Yeah, it's not a good 675 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 1: way to feel about yourself, like you have to like 676 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: reach these standards and live up to this expectation all 677 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: the time. And there was, you know, and that was 678 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: that was one time when I did, like actually speak up. 679 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: There's other times when I've just let it go because 680 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: what do you do? I mean, I at the time, 681 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: probably you couldn't do anything. No. I remember sitting at 682 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: lunch with a radio promoter with my ex was still 683 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: Magnoia and we were um, I was sitting next to 684 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: the radio guy and my ex was across from me, 685 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: and the other guy from the label work across from us, 686 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there and I all of a sudden, 687 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: I feel this guy's hand and he's just rubbing my leg, 688 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's okay, no, like what are you doing? Right? 689 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 1: And I didn't say anything, of course. I was just 690 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: like I just got really still, and I was like, 691 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't I didn't want to say anything 692 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I felt. You know, we're trying to get it out 693 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: on radio, you know, I mean, this stuff happens, and 694 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: people don't want to talk about it, and everybody wants 695 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: to like shame you when you do, you know, especially 696 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: when I came out with that that first story. You know, 697 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: I remember reading the comments on Yahoo. It was five 698 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: thousand comments just before the Me too movement, God, and 699 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: they were like yeah, right, like why would she just 700 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: be talking about it now, and like, you know, it's 701 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: like it's so much of that. And then I'm like 702 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, God, I maybe I shouldn't have said 703 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said anything that. Then I become, you know, 704 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: the person that's wrong, of course, and you also become 705 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: that smaller version of yourself. You were talking about earlier 706 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: because you told the truth, right, that's so messed up? 707 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: So what did it make you want to say it? Then? 708 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I feel like something happened. I don't 709 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: something in the news or something or that, and I don't, gosh, 710 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it was, but something prompted it, 711 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I just was like 712 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: I was just I was feeling more comfortable with just 713 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: telling my stories and being okay with like talking. I 714 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: feel like part of like being on a label and um, 715 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: those years of like just like media training and like 716 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to say anything ever about anything. It's like, oh, 717 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: if you get interviewed, you circled us back around to 718 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: that album release, you know. And it's like I became 719 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: such a robot for so long that I just got 720 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: to a point where I'm like, I just want to 721 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: talk and be real and be honest. And you know, 722 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: that for me has ultimately been the thing that I 723 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: felt like has worked the best for me. Yeah, because 724 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: people just want to know who you really are, and 725 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: they can they can see through bullshit, like they know 726 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: when you're bullshitting, you know, And so I've kind of 727 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: gotten to that point in my life. For I'm like, 728 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about ship that's real and 729 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: be honest. Yeah, do you feel like this has gotten 730 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: better in our industry? I think so to a point. 731 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: I feel like Nashville still hasn't really had its reckoning necessarily, 732 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 1: Like there's all this stuff that happens. And I say 733 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: this knowing that I do feel some insecurity, I guess 734 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: within the industry, like I kind of live on the 735 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: peripheral now because I've been so vocal um and obviously 736 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: I've said things about lots of things before anybody says 737 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: anything about them, and then I kind of put myself 738 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: in the position where it's like, Okay, well I'm an 739 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: outcast now. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I feel like there's 740 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: a lot that needs to be talked about in Nashville 741 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: that who knows if it ever will be, you know, 742 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: but I do see women coming up in positions of 743 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: power and things are happening that wouldn't have happened ten 744 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: years ago. I do feel like, um, some of my 745 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: clients and like I work with mostly men, and they're 746 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: so scared they're like, I mean I'm saying that, but 747 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: like I'm not like you know, like they find them 748 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: to be, like they don't even know what they can 749 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: say anymore without which the whole another thing. Oh, I know, 750 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: like I feel it sort of bad because these are 751 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: the ones who have done it, of course, and so 752 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you look nice today. Oh shoot, can 753 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: I say that? Like yeah, like that kind of such 754 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: a fine line. Well, I think it's like that pendulum swing. 755 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: It's like we started in this place where we had 756 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: these muzzles on, and maybe that's starting to release, and 757 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: now it goes back to the other side where now 758 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: they feel like they have the muzzles on. And really 759 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: we need to live somewhere in the middle where everyone 760 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: is safe, everyone is being appreciated for who they truly are. 761 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: Their talents. Talents are the reasons they're they're not because 762 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: of the other things. Are the things that we put 763 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: up with and all of that stuff. Yeah, yeah, I 764 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see if it happens, which well, thinking 765 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: maybe exactly. Well, let's talk about life now, because i'd, 766 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 1: like I said, I got to see you and Tyler 767 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: together performing. We both worked this hat company recently. That 768 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: was so fun that night I loved it. We shot 769 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: and you got a studio, so talk me through. First 770 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: of all, let's talk to let's talk about Tyler. Let's 771 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: do a love story for the people. How did you 772 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: guys meet? We met in the studio. Okay, he's a 773 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: guitar player, right, Yeah, Tyler is a guitar player. He's 774 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: a producer. He was actually producing um one of James 775 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: Otto's records, and James had called me to come sing 776 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: on it. So I went to sing on it. And 777 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: at the time, I was like, I'm not interested at all, 778 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: like not because of him, but because I just wasn't 779 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: ready to be in a relationship. Like I was like, 780 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: I just got out of a six year relationship, Like 781 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to jump into anything long term yet. 782 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: You know. I was just very like anti relationships. And 783 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: then we met and the whole time I was there, 784 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: I was laughing like we just got along so well. 785 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: And he texted me I was having some vocal trouble 786 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: at that point because I had been on the road 787 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 1: for so long and been sick and hadn't been taking 788 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: care of myself. So I was like, man, I feel 789 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: like I need to resing this. And so he had 790 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: messaged me and said We'll come to my studio and 791 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: do it. You know, we were at Jada Cloud, but 792 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: we we were actually at Jada Marcus's house because he 793 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: has a studio downstairs. That's where James was doing his 794 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: record and he was like, just come to my studio 795 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: next weekend. We'll redo it. So I re sang it. 796 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: We got along great, and then he next in me. 797 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: He was like, hey, my sister's in town, Um, do 798 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: you want to come meet us? And I'm like, my 799 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: friend Julia was with me, and I feel like he 800 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: wants me to come meet his sister, Like this is 801 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: I was like, this is like way too must like 802 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: what we don't We're not even dating you know at 803 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: the time. But I went. I felt like I needed 804 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: to go, and we just, I don't know, we just 805 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: hit it off. And then he it was a CM 806 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: week was coming up and he was playing I think 807 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: at the time he was playing with Laura Bell Bundy 808 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: and I was forgot about her. Yeah, this was like 809 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: two thousand, God, I don't know, We've been there for 810 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: nine years in some change. Um, So he was going 811 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: to play with Laura and I was going with still 812 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: Magnoia and he was like why don't you cancel your 813 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: flight home? He was like, drive with me from Vegas 814 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: to l A and I'll buy you a flight home. 815 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: And I'm like, big baller, Like little did I know, 816 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: Like he's actually just like using all the money about 817 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: But I was like, okay, So we did that. After 818 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: that we were like, okay, we're dating. Like. It was 819 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: a great trip. We had fun. We drove through you know, 820 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: you've done the drive from La biggest l A. It's 821 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: so fun. Yeah, we stopped to that little diner, you know, 822 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: did the whole thing, and then I met some most 823 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: friends and I don't know, we just hit it off 824 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: big time and it was easy. Okay, that's so funny. 825 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: That was my next question. I always hear people say, um, relationships, 826 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: everyone talks about the work, but like it really shouldn't 827 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: be so hard, and like coming out of our relationship 828 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: with Josh, which you said, the dynamic was just exhausting 829 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: for you. I've actually heard it. Had a friend describe 830 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: it as like when you go to the dentist and 831 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: you have that X ray vest on, you know, and 832 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: just like taking the vest off. That's what it felt like, Yeah, 833 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: and just being able to breathe but then when you 834 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: met Tyler, was it an instant like you just knew 835 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: it just flowed. Yeah, it just flowed. It was easy, 836 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: like we just had so much fun. And he's just 837 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: very like he's so supportive of me, like it it's 838 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: not a competition. He's not trying to like push me 839 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: aside to be you know, the star or whatever. Like 840 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: we just like we support each other, like I support 841 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: everything he's doing. He supports what I do. And you know, 842 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: we don't need each other to feel complete, right, you 843 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: know that's it's not that it's like no, I'm just 844 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: like a I'm a better person when I'm with you, 845 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: like you make me better, you know that. So and 846 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: it's easy. Yeah, it's fun and we work together all 847 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: the time and we get along great. Yeah, I mean 848 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: I could see a difference ahead and fight. Everybody fights. 849 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: Everybody fights though that's too human, but not like not 850 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: like crazy, not crazy not crazy stuff. Yeah, no cops 851 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: are throwing anything. The cops are never called when we fight. Okay, 852 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: this is good. Yeah, progress exactly. Yeah. I mean I 853 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: remember watching you guys on the stage, and I can see, 854 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: like the way he looks at you when you sing 855 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: it's just so I mean, I wish you guys could see, 856 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's videos you guys can go watch, 857 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: but it is literally the sweetest kind of I can 858 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: look at him and tell he loves that person and 859 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: supports her and wants he wants you to fly, you know, 860 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: which I think is what we all really truly want 861 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: in a relationship, right as the person who you do 862 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: feel like your best self with, but ultimately they're going 863 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 1: to like push you even further into that version of yourself. Right, Yeah, 864 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: it's great, it's great. I'm so happy. Good. Yeah, I've 865 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: never been happier actually, which is crazy to think. Are 866 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: you guys gonna get married? Yell, are engaged, right, engaged, 867 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: But we didn't get married because COVID right our our 868 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: wedding was supposed to be in April, so right in 869 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: the thick of it, Yeah, it was like right when 870 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: everything was like, yeah, we're definitely not having a wedding, 871 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: but we we've been together so long at this point 872 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: we're like, do we even need it? Have been when 873 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: it happens, you know, it's just a title. Really, Yeah, 874 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 1: we have dogs were good? Well, I mentioned the studio 875 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: that we shot at the Bailey Hats campaign in which 876 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: is beautiful and amazing and people should go check it out. 877 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: Do you are you recording in there right now? I've 878 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: been recording a lot. I've been like, I've been writing 879 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: a lot of songs, and I feel like that the 880 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: pandemic was really good for that, you know, just being 881 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: honest and writing writing things that are real for me 882 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: and just I don't know, I don't I'm trying to 883 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: get away from, like I mean, Gemmicks are fun like 884 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff, like doing fun collaborations and 885 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: stuff like that is great, and like all the flashy 886 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: stuff is fun, but I'm also kind of like I 887 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: kind of want to get back to like just my 888 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: roots and writing things that are real and being honest 889 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: about you know, coming up in this industry. And like, 890 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: so those are the kind of songs I've been writing 891 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: and it's been really fun and just recording them like 892 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: acoustic and amazing. Probably just gonna put out like a 893 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: real rootsie record that's very louisy and of you approve it? 894 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: Is it definitely is? Um? What else do you have 895 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 1: coming up? What can we look towards to? Man, We're 896 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: working on all kinds of stuff, just trying to figure 897 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: it out, you know, like just doing music and then 898 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: kind of working on this like TV show idea, okay, 899 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: another reality. We'll see, We'll see how it goes. You know. 900 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: We're in the middle of like just figuring out the 901 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: creative on that and just taking walks to twelve Souths 902 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: every day. Amazing, right whether in Nashville has been so nice. 903 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's hot today. It is a little warm, 904 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: but I feel like we're good finally, well if we 905 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: can handle it handle I'm just so happy it's not 906 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: cold and dreary. I hate it. Yeah, I'm not a 907 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,959 Speaker 1: cold person. Yeah, I'm a hot like. I like hot weather. Same. 908 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: I've said, um, we'll tell the people where they can 909 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: go find you and keep up with what you do 910 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: have coming out. Yeah, I mean my Instagram is just 911 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 1: Megan Lindsay and it's l I N S E Y 912 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: and then there's an H and Megan too, which is 913 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: confusing to h A N Okay, So yeah, all my 914 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: stuff is under my name at Megan Lindsay. Where can 915 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: people just go listen to music though, and also see 916 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: you perform? Because I wasn't taking it. I mean like, 917 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: I've heard you seeing before and I remember sitting at 918 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: that bar the other night being like, holy shit, I 919 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: mean can whale. Thank you, it's the truth. Thank you. Well. 920 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: YouTube is good for that. A lot of videos on there, Okay, 921 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: just my Spotify and a lot of stuff. Just look yeah, yeah, 922 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: just look me up. I'm out there. Will you guys 923 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: go check out Megan. Thank you so much for doing this. 924 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: This is fun. I always love talking tomorrow Louisi and 925 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 1: the girls. All right, thank you guys for listening. Thanks 926 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: for listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, 927 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet and a 928 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty 929 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: and relationships. Search Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcasts.