Speaker 1: You would think that on a day we celebrate the
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Speaker 1: late great doctor Martin Luther King Junior, that it would
Speaker 1: be a day of peace and tranquility. Yet as things change,
Speaker 1: they remain the same. There's an inauguration that took place
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill this afternoon. People ain't happy about that.
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Speaker 1: happy about that. I even got rap orders being excoriated
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Speaker 1: political positions or a political positions.
Speaker 2: We're getting noise about that. Help Even Scottie.
Speaker 1: Pippen's open in his mouth and engaging and blasphemy, and
Speaker 1: not just about Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a day of peace.
Speaker 1: But it's America. Ladies and gentlemen. Do we even know
Speaker 1: what the damn meaning of the word is? These days?
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Speaker 1: will get into a whole bunch of things today.
Speaker 2: TikTok has made news.
Speaker 1: It went dark for a little while and then it
Speaker 1: came back up, and a representative out of California has
Speaker 1: fought for that to happen. We'll see what obstacles lie
Speaker 1: in wait for TikTok and why that may be the case.
Speaker 1: We'll touch on that a little bit later on in
Speaker 1: the show. Of course, I'm gonna get into Scottie Pippen,
Speaker 1: who appeared on a PbD podcast, Patrick Bett David, who's
Speaker 1: become a friend of mine. He's a wonderful, wonderful man
Speaker 1: to know, incredibly knowledgeable and successful. He interviewed Scottie Pippen
Speaker 1: on his podcast, the PbD Podcast. Those are some elite
Speaker 1: brothers over there. I've gotten to know them, got a
Speaker 1: lot of love and respect for them. It's a great
Speaker 1: interview that PbD did with the one and only Scotty Pippen.
Speaker 1: It wasn't great what the hell came out of Scotty
Speaker 1: Pipper's valve, but it was great.
Speaker 2: It was a great interview.
Speaker 1: I'll get into all of that a little bit later
Speaker 1: on in the show too. And I'm about to get
Speaker 1: into the inauguration, but before the inauguration of Donald Trump
Speaker 1: as the forty seventh President of the United States, to
Speaker 1: be specific for those of you who didn't know and
Speaker 1: are living under a rock or just flat out ignorant. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: that's gonna have to wait. That's gonna have to wait.
Speaker 1: And also what's gonna have to wait is me getting
Speaker 1: into Jaden Daniels, the rookie quarterback for the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: Who might win the Super Bowl? Who might win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl as a rookie.
Speaker 1: I'll touch on that a little bit later on in
Speaker 1: the show as well. I ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 2: I gotta start off the show with my boys, Snoop
Speaker 2: dog and Nelly.
Speaker 1: Now, obviously, if you don't know any better, you've been
Speaker 1: living under a rock or what have you, youre might
Speaker 1: be a bit put off because these brothers are taking
Speaker 1: an awful.
Speaker 2: Lot of heat. And that's why I have to start there.
Speaker 1: Remember, Donald Trump was sworn in this president of the
Speaker 1: United States for the second time today. He entered office
Speaker 1: with plenty of controversies around them and many Americans wondering
Speaker 1: what to expect this time around. And I told you
Speaker 1: I'm going to get into that. But part of that
Speaker 1: is starting off with Snoop Dogg and Nelly and Soldier
Speaker 1: Boy and others for their decisions to perform at events
Speaker 1: surrounding the inauguration. Nelly was on with Willie d you know,
Speaker 1: formular the Ghetto Boys this week, and he was talking
Speaker 1: about some things because he was taking a lot of
Speaker 1: heat for performing at events surrounding the inauguration. Before I
Speaker 1: get into it, let's hear Nellie's explanation. Listen to this.
Speaker 1: Performing for somebody and voting for somebody is two different things.
Speaker 1: Endorsing people is two different things. Am I Trump supporter?
Speaker 1: I support the office. I support the President of the
Speaker 1: United States, regardless of who's in office.
Speaker 2: I'm not a politician. Man.
Speaker 1: You didn't see me out there on a campaign. You
Speaker 1: didn't see me out there saying you should vote for
Speaker 1: this candidate. But I'm honored to be out there performing
Speaker 1: for the office for the President of the United States.
Speaker 2: That was his position. Because obviously he's taken some heat.
Speaker 1: You've got people all over social media and beyond calling
Speaker 1: them sellouts and coons and traders to their race and
Speaker 1: all of this other stuff that's been coming out of
Speaker 1: their mouth. And Snoop Dogg is especially taking some hits,
Speaker 1: not just because he elected to perform at the Crypto Ball,
Speaker 1: which was the event one of the events surrounding the inauguration,
Speaker 1: an event Trump what did not even attend, by the way,
Speaker 1: even though he was supposed to be the guest of honor.
Speaker 1: But not only a Snoop dog taking heat for that
Speaker 1: Snoop Dog's taking heat for what we saw him say
Speaker 1: about any potential performers at the inauguration of Donald Trump back.
Speaker 2: In twenty and seventeen.
Speaker 1: So to be fair, let me make sure before I
Speaker 1: let you know what my position in all of this is.
Speaker 1: Let's see Snoop Dogg from back there in twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: and what he had to say about any potential performer
Speaker 1: performing at Donald Trump's inauguration back then.
Speaker 2: Listen to this, Snoop DOGG.
Speaker 3: So, ain't nobody gonna perform for Donald Trump?
Speaker 4: Huh?
Speaker 5: Which one of you jiggaboo ass gonna be the first
Speaker 5: one to do it?
Speaker 3: I'm waiting.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna roaster one of you. Uncle Tom asked me
Speaker 5: for doing Which one of you is gonna do it first?
Speaker 3: The one that performs for himself?
Speaker 2: That was Snoop dog.
Speaker 1: So obviously, to see him performing this past weekend at
Speaker 1: the Crypto Ball, knowing what was being put out there
Speaker 1: about him, had to call my boy because that is
Speaker 1: my dog, making no mistake about it. I ain't apologizing
Speaker 1: for that to nobody. That's my brother. I love that brother, Okay,
Speaker 1: even when he wrong you right, or even when he
Speaker 1: wrong you right with me, because I know where his
Speaker 1: soul lies. Having said all of that, I still have
Speaker 1: to be fair to our audience. And I reached out
Speaker 1: to Snoop and I'm gonna tell you exactly what the
Speaker 1: brother said to me. He wasn't there for Trump. He
Speaker 1: was there for David Zachs, who's gonna be running.
Speaker 2: Crypto and AI.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be that crypto in AIS are for the
Speaker 1: president administration.
Speaker 2: That's who David sax is.
Speaker 1: David sax Is somebody that Snoop has had a relationship
Speaker 1: with for decades.
Speaker 2: David sass that cat.
Speaker 1: When nobody else put their hand out offering dollars to
Speaker 1: Snoop's football league, and beyond that, brother does it. That
Speaker 1: brother's ready to do it now. So we got to
Speaker 1: take all of that into consideration. Nelly threw out the
Speaker 1: money as well. He ain't trying to be political.
Speaker 2: He's an artist. He was paid to perform, and.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he did. Don't get me started with
Speaker 1: what soldier boys said. He said the same exact thing.
Speaker 2: Now he said.
Speaker 1: It in a very abrasive and excessive fashion, and I
Speaker 1: thought that was unnecessary.
Speaker 2: But if that's his lingo that's his lingo.
Speaker 1: The point is the point he sat up there and
Speaker 1: pulled out a bag of money and said, did anybody
Speaker 1: offer me to perform? That's what they did. So we
Speaker 1: see all of that going on and we understand what
Speaker 1: that is. But back to Snoop Dogg because that's who
Speaker 1: I know. Back to Nelly, because that's who I know.
Speaker 1: Nelly is not a political person. Nelly doesn't get involved
Speaker 1: in the campaigns. Nelly does perform for people who will
Speaker 1: pay the right fee, et cetera, et cetera, as an artist,
Speaker 1: and he is somebody that don't want to get involved
Speaker 1: in all of that and believes in respecting the office
Speaker 1: because of the power that comes with it.
Speaker 2: That's his position.
Speaker 1: Like it or not, you gotta respect it because there's
Speaker 1: plenty of hypocritical asses out here in this world acting
Speaker 1: like they don't.
Speaker 2: Do it, and they do it every day. But you're
Speaker 2: gonna come at.
Speaker 1: Him because he went and sang a few songs at
Speaker 1: the incoming president.
Speaker 2: See that's the BS right there, and.
Speaker 1: That's what that's the kind of stuff that's gotta stop.
Speaker 1: Back to Snoop, who I know, Not that I don't
Speaker 1: know Nelly, but I know Nell.
Speaker 2: That's my brother. I love him death, but not We
Speaker 2: ain't as close as me as Snoop. Did y'all know
Speaker 2: that Snoop never exercised his right to vote in his life.
Speaker 1: Until twenty twenty? Did you know that I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what Snoop told me. I have permission from him to
Speaker 1: say this to y'all. If he didn't want me to
Speaker 1: tell y'all, listen, I wouldn't be telling y'all none of
Speaker 1: this because I ain't violate nobody's trust.
Speaker 2: I can have my opinions without violating trust.
Speaker 1: But he's given me permission to say everything that I'm
Speaker 1: saying to you.
Speaker 2: He never voted in his life until twenty twenty. I
Speaker 2: never knew that. Had I known that, I'd gotten his ass,
Speaker 2: I'm his brother.
Speaker 1: I believe in exercise and your right to vote, your
Speaker 1: ancestors and the sacrifices they made, damn it. One power
Speaker 1: to you have is to make sure you vote. People
Speaker 1: died for you to have the right to vote. Got Snoop?
Speaker 2: I love it. I love him to death. I'd have
Speaker 2: gotten his ass. You gotta vote. He voted in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: He voted for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Spoke against Trump in twenty sixteen, spoke against him in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, voted against him in twenty twenty. So everybody
Speaker 1: want to be like, well, what's the problem now, what's
Speaker 1: the problem. I'll tell you what the problem is now.
Speaker 1: But before I get into the problem, let me show
Speaker 1: y'all a full screen of mister Keith Boykin. This guy
Speaker 1: is a political commentator.
Speaker 2: I assume I don't know his background.
Speaker 1: I'm not casting any dispersions on him, disrespecting him in
Speaker 1: any way.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I've just been busy and I didn't have time to
Speaker 1: get into it. I saw him on CNN giving political
Speaker 1: commentary on Abbey Phillips Show, and while he was on there,
Speaker 1: he said this.
Speaker 2: I want you all to see this stuff on the
Speaker 2: full screen.
Speaker 1: Cause you need to know any black person who performs
Speaker 1: at Trump's inauguration dishonors, quote black families he refused to
Speaker 1: rent to the two in the nineteen seventies, the black
Speaker 1: kids he wanted to execute in the Central Park case
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties, the black Haitian immigrants he lied
Speaker 1: about in the twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 2: You remember when.
Speaker 1: Trump was said, they're eating dogs they're eating cats. Remember
Speaker 1: that that's what Keith Boykin is talking about, along with
Speaker 1: various other things. Along with various other things, let me
Speaker 1: explain to you why I'm pissed. I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: Keith Boykin. Mad respect to you. Keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2: I hope your career continues to elevate my brother.
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking against him, only his position, And the
Speaker 1: reason that I preface my comments by saying that is
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna show a level of respect to him
Speaker 1: that most.
Speaker 2: People don't show to me.
Speaker 1: You don't like my opinion, so you attack me, you
Speaker 1: personalize it with your petty bs. You can disagree without
Speaker 1: being disagreeable. So I'm not talking about Keith Boykin.
Speaker 2: I don't know him.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about his point. Here's what pisses me off
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: You don't have any respect.
Speaker 1: For anybody who performs at Trump's inauguration or the events
Speaker 1: surrounding is inauguration. So that means does that mean you
Speaker 1: don't have any respect for anybody black who voted for him.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about myself because I didn't vote for him.
Speaker 1: Does that mean you don't have any respect for black
Speaker 1: people who sat there and said, I'm interested in the economy.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in inflation. I'm interested in protecting our borders.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in elevating our national security. I'm interested in
Speaker 1: keeping the streets of the United States of America.
Speaker 2: Is safe as possible.
Speaker 1: What if their reasons and they're rationale for voting strictly
Speaker 1: protect to that.
Speaker 2: What if this person.
Speaker 1: Voted for him because they broke and they think he's
Speaker 1: gonna put more money in their pocket. What if this
Speaker 1: person voted for him because they're in a crime riating
Speaker 1: neighborhood and they feel leftists aren't having the streets.
Speaker 2: Patrolled well enough. What if they want to call.
Speaker 1: Nine to one one, but they live in an environment
Speaker 1: that people were supporting the funding the police, and as
Speaker 1: a result of that, you either have a paucity of
Speaker 1: police officers or you have police officers that ain't that
Speaker 1: interested in protecting a serving because they don't want to
Speaker 1: get villified.
Speaker 2: What if the job market mattered.
Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of reasons why people vote the
Speaker 1: way that they vote. To sit up there and just
Speaker 1: blinkedly state that you don't respect anybody that showed up
Speaker 1: to an inauguration soldier boy, ain't got no right to
Speaker 1: go make some money.
Speaker 2: They are different.
Speaker 1: Everybody couldn't say, Man, if it was me, it's a
Speaker 1: different way to make the money.
Speaker 2: Sure about that? Sure about that? I sold soldier boy
Speaker 2: pull out some cash. I couldn't see that well, I
Speaker 2: couldn't count, but it looked like at least six figures
Speaker 2: what it took most people, and what it takes most
Speaker 2: people to make it a year. The brother made in
Speaker 2: one night.
Speaker 1: You sure you sure about that? You sure you could
Speaker 1: have found a way to go and make the kind
Speaker 1: of cash that he making. Snoop dogg worth over one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. He got a youth football league. This
Speaker 1: brother sending cast to college. He sending cast to the NFL.
Speaker 1: We just gonna ignore that because he performed at the inauguration.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something right now, some of you
Speaker 1: in our community, I just say your community, I said ours.
Speaker 1: I'm a black man who's entitled the field. Whatever the
Speaker 1: hell I want to feel some of y'all when you
Speaker 1: turned against ice Cube, it's unforgivable.
Speaker 2: It's unforgivable. Ice Cube n w a.
Speaker 1: Ice cube dre easy all of them. And then Snoop
Speaker 1: came a board, not in wa but Snoop came aboard,
Speaker 1: Warrant G and the whole crew.
Speaker 2: They took the rep game to another level.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Black people made money off
Speaker 1: of hip hop? I mean black people have been employed
Speaker 1: because of hip hop. It transformed this world.
Speaker 2: Is everything perfect about them? Hell no?
Speaker 1: Is the way some of them carrying themselves right, No,
Speaker 1: the way some of them speak.
Speaker 2: Hell no, I get all of that.
Speaker 1: But damn, before they came along, you had white folks
Speaker 1: in the music industry.
Speaker 2: Worshiping the devil.
Speaker 1: And singing whatever the hell they wanted to sing. Nobody
Speaker 1: said anything but the Brothers come along, it's a problem.
Speaker 1: And now that the Brothers come along and they make
Speaker 1: something to themselves, and they got opportunities that they're willing
Speaker 1: to exploit, and they choose to be a political You
Speaker 1: want to get an ass?
Speaker 2: What if they got in your ass? Keith Boykin?
Speaker 1: What if they got And by you, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about you specifically, bro Again, I respect you. Of what
Speaker 1: I know of you, I don't know much, but I
Speaker 1: like listening to you on television.
Speaker 2: I respect you. I truly do.
Speaker 1: What I mean by you is I'm talking about lefties. See,
Speaker 1: I'm a registered in dependent y'all trying to roll out
Speaker 1: there talk about and I'm gonna have on my lower
Speaker 1: third grip make that lower third for me. Put even
Speaker 1: a smith still a registered independent. I ain't changing, thank you, Griff.
Speaker 1: I ain't changing. I ain't no damn Republican. I ain't
Speaker 1: no conservative, nor am I a Democrat. I'm an independent.
Speaker 2: Why because I don't like none of your asses. I
Speaker 2: don't trust you as far as I could throw you.
Speaker 1: Conservatism, fiscally, taxes, border security, crime, that's me.
Speaker 2: Liberal.
Speaker 1: Any liberal policy that you got in terms of support
Speaker 1: of the LGBTQ community, I'm good with it.
Speaker 2: Abortion rights, I'm good with it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a Roe v Wade advocate, meaning I'm more
Speaker 1: pro choice than pro life. Not that I believe in abortion,
Speaker 1: because I don't. I just don't believe it. And he
Speaker 1: man should be telling what a woman what to do
Speaker 1: with their body. But I certainly understand if people during
Speaker 1: the election were not concerned about those issues, and people
Speaker 1: like the Keith Boykins of the world never brought that up.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, yo, bro, nobody's saying you wrong about
Speaker 1: what you're feeling. As it pertains to those issues, but
Speaker 1: you do understand there's a lot of people that didn't
Speaker 1: care about the issues you.
Speaker 2: Might care about. They might have other priorities.
Speaker 1: And the Soldier Boy's case, it was making money, and
Speaker 1: in Nellie's case, it was being an artist, and in
Speaker 1: Snoop's case, it was about supporting his Snoop Youth League.
Speaker 2: And all the things he has done and plans on doing.
Speaker 2: And by the way, all of.
Speaker 1: These years he's been doing it, he's been coming out
Speaker 1: of his own pocket. And you got David Sack looking
Speaker 1: at him, is like, I'll support you.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: We got a whole bunch of people here in the
Speaker 1: crypto world, in the AI world, in the bitcoin world,
Speaker 1: and beyond who's gonna look to help you. And he's
Speaker 1: thinking about how financial literacy is something that's gonna be
Speaker 1: taught to these kids, and these kids gonna be able
Speaker 1: to go out in the world and be better young
Speaker 1: man and probably professional football players and college graduates and
Speaker 1: civilized contributors to our society. And we find a way
Speaker 1: to have a problem with that. Really, that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: So Stup could do all of these things, and he
Speaker 1: spews a few cuss words and shows up trapp trapping
Speaker 1: like he's at the inauguration or the inauguration event.
Speaker 2: And that's a problem.
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna lost y'all damn minds. But I had enough
Speaker 1: of y'all shit. I'm gonna get into how you you've
Speaker 1: lost your minds. Y'all gonna stop talking about my boys
Speaker 1: like that. You gonna stop going after my boys like that.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, let me tell you something
Speaker 1: right now, who's the cat that for?
Speaker 2: From?
Speaker 1: From rude boys that interviewed Nelly? Again, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: draw a blank Willie D. Now we all know Willie
Speaker 1: D's come We all know Willy D's come after me.
Speaker 1: He had a problem with me or whatever. But you see,
Speaker 1: I'm a grown ass man, So Willie D. I got
Speaker 1: something to say to you too.
Speaker 2: Good job.
Speaker 1: That's a damn good interview with Nelly. You gave a
Speaker 1: brother an opportunity to speak. You asked all the right questions,
Speaker 1: the kind of questions that people wanted to know and
Speaker 1: the kind of answers that folks wanted emanating from him.
Speaker 2: Good job.
Speaker 1: See, that's what grown men do. I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: back at Willie D. Because he came at me in
Speaker 1: the past. He had a difference of opinion than me.
Speaker 1: I wish that man nothing but the best. I hope
Speaker 1: podcast continues to flourish and shine. He did a damn
Speaker 1: good job with that Nelly interview.
Speaker 2: Some of y'all others out here, y'all lost, y'all.
Speaker 1: Ever loving minds. And back to you, mister Boykin, respectfully.
Speaker 2: I got some things to point out that I'd like
Speaker 2: you to consider the next time you going to kind
Speaker 2: of diet tribe. You went on on.
Speaker 1: CNN, by the way, again, that was on CNN with
Speaker 1: Abby Philip, a reporter that now has her own show
Speaker 1: on CNN, and when I have time, and she asked
Speaker 1: me to come. If I have time, I go and
Speaker 1: support her and Lower Coast because they're my sisters. I
Speaker 1: ain't apologizing for that. Nobody ain't gona stop me from
Speaker 1: going on Handity, and't go stop me from going on
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo. But if the sisters call and I got
Speaker 1: time in my schedule and I'm available, I happily do
Speaker 1: it because it helps them. I saw what you said,
Speaker 1: and I throwed the audience to some degree with what
Speaker 1: you said. I didn't play the whole sound, Keith boykend
Speaker 1: because we didn't have approval from CNN to play that sound.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I would have made sure to play it all
Speaker 1: so I could contextualize it properly.
Speaker 2: So I just want you to know that. But I
Speaker 2: heard what you said.
Speaker 1: I watched it from start to finish, and there was
Speaker 1: some things you left out. There's some things that Democrats
Speaker 1: always want.
Speaker 2: To leave out.
Speaker 1: I'm sick and tired of the bullshit from the left.
Speaker 1: And if I sound ticked off, ladies and gentlemen, that's
Speaker 1: why I feel hoodwinked by the Democratic Party. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm pissed. I'm not pissed because I'm a Trump support.
Speaker 1: I didn't vote for him before, I didn't vote for
Speaker 1: him this time. I'm pissed off because I feel hood winked,
Speaker 1: and I don't like to feel hood winked.
Speaker 2: I'll elaborate with more about that in a minute. Stephen A.
Speaker 2: Smith schell back with more in a second.
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure that as I go forward,
Speaker 1: everybody knows that I'm not getting personal and I'm not
Speaker 1: personally attacking anyone. I'm an attack what you say and
Speaker 1: how you feel and what you expressed, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to attack you, and I'm certainly wasn't attacking Keith Boyk,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't attacking anybody. Having said that, let me
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Speaker 1: Coming in heavily to deliver his promise of restricting immigration
Speaker 1: into the United States, Donald Trump banned the CBP one
Speaker 1: app that facilitated the legal entry of nearly one million
Speaker 1: people into the United States by granting them work eligibility.
Speaker 1: The decision was announced just minutes after Trump was sworn
Speaker 1: in as the forty seventh president. The impact of this
Speaker 1: move was immediate, as people in Mexico who were waiting
Speaker 1: for their CBP one parole appointments were reportedly left devastated.
Speaker 2: Upon hearing the news.
Speaker 1: According to a post shared on x by a gentleman
Speaker 1: by the name of Aurelius R. Hernandez, a journalist with
Speaker 1: the Washington Post, some migrants in Mexico were seeing crying
Speaker 1: when they learned that the appointments were no longer valid.
Speaker 2: The denied entry.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna repeat what I said said seconds ago. Anybody
Speaker 1: who speaks on this subject in favor of Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: decision with glee, with joy coming out of their mouth,
Speaker 1: with their facial expressions, in their heart and soul, you
Speaker 1: really really need to question their humanity. This is cruel,
Speaker 1: This is so unfortunate, This is so sad, but necessary.
Speaker 1: You see, when we're talking, and this is one of
Speaker 1: the problems that exists in politics. See, the one side
Speaker 1: only talks about the other side and what they do wrong.
Speaker 1: You ain't talking about what they did right. You're not
Speaker 1: talking about the wrong that they committed. That was a
Speaker 1: necessary wrong. You see, that's what happens when you let
Speaker 1: when you allow fourteen million immigrants to enter the country illegally.
Speaker 2: If you didn't do that. Joe Biden, who by.
Speaker 1: The way, made sure he departed out of office pardoning
Speaker 1: of granting clemencyed over twenty five hundred people for nonviolent.
Speaker 2: Offenses, not to mention all of his family members, all
Speaker 2: of them. All of them. Okay, make sure they couldn't
Speaker 2: be touched. If you didn't.
Speaker 1: Have open borders your first week on the job in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, it might not have.
Speaker 2: Come to this. You see.
Speaker 1: Trump talked a lot of smack, and this is the
Speaker 1: part that he's not giving credit for He talked a
Speaker 1: lot of smack about mass immigration and deportation and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. In his first term, even talked about ending birthright, citizenry, citizenship,
Speaker 1: remember that. But what did he actually do. He talked
Speaker 1: about building a wall, a great big wall, and the
Speaker 1: Mexican's is gonna pay for it, And then they deduced
Speaker 1: that he probably built about two percent.
Speaker 2: Of the wall.
Speaker 1: You know why he couldn't get things done to the
Speaker 1: degree that he had portended and it campaigned on back
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, because Barack Obama was the deporter in chief.
Speaker 1: He didn't advertise it, but he wasn't having it. He
Speaker 1: didn't allow folks to come in mass into our country.
Speaker 2: Nobody else allows it but us nobody.
Speaker 1: You can't go into Mexico like that, you can't going
Speaker 1: to Venezuela like that. You can't go anywhere in this
Speaker 1: world with those kind of open borders that Joe Biden okayed.
Speaker 1: Barack Obama didn't do it. And the reason why Trump
Speaker 1: had a hard time was because the Barack Obama was
Speaker 1: the deporter in chief. They said, he just didn't advertise it,
Speaker 1: he didn't boss the brag about it.
Speaker 2: But had he done it, had he not done it.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Then Trump could have lived up to his
Speaker 2: campaign promises.
Speaker 1: But you know why Trump couldn't do that when he
Speaker 1: was in office first go round, because he would have
Speaker 1: mirrored Barack Obama or looked worse. We have to pay
Speaker 1: attention to what's going on. I bring up what mister
Speaker 1: Boykin said on CNN. Why because you're talking about what
Speaker 1: respect you have or lack thereof for black people who
Speaker 1: would perform at the inauguration. So obviously you feel the
Speaker 1: same way about people who voted for Trump. I did neither.
Speaker 1: I did neither. But when are you gonna understand? And
Speaker 1: I know you do, sir, just like I know my
Speaker 1: man Roland Martin. Does y'all know this better than me?
Speaker 2: This is y'all lane, not my lane compared to y'all.
Speaker 2: I got that part.
Speaker 1: Some people try to sit up there and say, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden deported more people than Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: You open the borders, fourteen million people crossed. It cost
Speaker 1: this country billions, which is the subject we'll get into
Speaker 1: in just a second. But the reason why I brought
Speaker 1: up what we gotta start doing. We can't keep talking
Speaker 1: about the right. We can't keep talking about conservatives. We
Speaker 1: can't keep talking about what are danger Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: to our society without mentioning the left, meaning Biden, you
Speaker 1: want to bring up the Central Park case. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: was clearly wrong, should have apologized. But we all know
Speaker 1: that when that was broached, particularly during the Democratic National
Speaker 1: Convention and the campaign trail.
Speaker 2: It was used as a tool to point.
Speaker 1: To what some would deem racial insensitivity or racist behavior
Speaker 1: when America was worried about their own wallets. They don't
Speaker 1: care because the vast majority of Americans are still white
Speaker 1: in this country. Hispanics don't make up thirty percent of
Speaker 1: the population, Blacks don't make up fifty percent of the population.
Speaker 1: It's still a predominantly white society. That's not gonna fly
Speaker 1: with them anymore. Because they got their own bills to
Speaker 1: worry about, and they all streets to worry about walking in.
Speaker 2: They ain't falling for it, So we got that issue.
Speaker 2: You brought up Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And being a landlord and not wanting to rent the
Speaker 1: black folks. Did you mention Joe Biden and his relationship
Speaker 1: with segregationist Robert Bird West Virginia KKK member, to bring
Speaker 1: that up. See if you bring up Donald Trump with that,
Speaker 1: You gotta bring that up. You bring up Donald Trump
Speaker 1: with that, You gotta bring up Joe Biden, senator, prominent
Speaker 1: senator with Clinton's crime bill that was widely accused of
Speaker 1: contributing the mass incarceration that disproportionately affected black people in
Speaker 1: the nation.
Speaker 2: Gotta bring that up at least did you forget to
Speaker 2: bring that up?
Speaker 1: Or did you not want to point out how the
Speaker 1: Congressional Black Caucus had something to do with persuading Joe
Speaker 1: Biden the positions that he took as a senator at
Speaker 1: that particular moment in time in the nineties when Bill
Speaker 1: Clinton was in office.
Speaker 2: You gotta mention it.
Speaker 1: Did you have any problem with Joe Biden going on
Speaker 1: to the breakfast club and trying to define who was
Speaker 1: black and who wasn't in terms of you choosing him
Speaker 1: or body. If you don't vote for me, you vote
Speaker 1: for Trump, you ain't black. We can't have it both ways,
Speaker 1: It's all I'm saying. And right now, that's what got
Speaker 1: the Democrats booted out of office. That's what has them
Speaker 1: being the minority in the House and the Senate and
Speaker 1: how they've lost the White House. Yeah, there's something on
Speaker 1: social media right now with Elon Musk and giving a
Speaker 1: Nazi sign out once but twice. You're hearing about Trump
Speaker 1: and how he's determined to do away with entitlement programs
Speaker 1: and what have you. And you've got minorities in this
Speaker 1: cutry wondering what the hell is going on. First you're
Speaker 1: attacking immigration and then you're attacking entitlement programs, so everything
Speaker 1: is gonna be catered to white people. I already know
Speaker 1: what everybody's saying. I'm not here to say you wrong.
Speaker 1: We gonna see, we gonna see. But while we looking
Speaker 1: to see what Trump does, we already know what the
Speaker 1: left has done, which is why we've tired of hearing
Speaker 1: stuff like this from Alexandria Ocassio Cortez better known as
Speaker 1: AOC Take a listen.
Speaker 6: Well, we are on the eve of an authoritarian administration.
Speaker 6: This is what twenty first century fascism is starting to
Speaker 6: look like. Republicans really model themselves after Orbond's Hungry, and
Speaker 6: so you can look to see how Victor Orbon runs
Speaker 6: Hungry to get a taste of how they will try
Speaker 6: to govern and control media and companies in the United States.
Speaker 6: And this is kind of an entree to that as
Speaker 6: far as what we do. You know, this is a
Speaker 6: time of experimentation.
Speaker 4: A lot of people will still use platforms, can still
Speaker 4: use platforms. But I also look towards places where you
Speaker 4: have more ownership as well and develop your audiences there,
Speaker 4: like Blue Sky, you own your audience. It's a protocol,
Speaker 4: decentralized protocol.
Speaker 2: Did you say control the media aoc By the way,
Speaker 2: I appreciate your work. I appreciate what you.
Speaker 1: Do for your constituencies in the Bronze, but your constituency
Speaker 1: in the Bronx, But did you talk about controlling the media?
Speaker 2: Is that what you brought up? So the left has had.
Speaker 1: No control hunh. So the left is not engaged in
Speaker 1: bullying tactics. So Wolke culture didn't exist where people had
Speaker 1: to make sure they echoed the right pronoun in order
Speaker 1: to keep their job security, where you had to sit
Speaker 1: up there and.
Speaker 2: God forbid you.
Speaker 1: You literally challenge somebody uh with regards to transgender issues,
Speaker 1: and you were considered to be transphobic.
Speaker 2: Where one minute we were.
Speaker 1: Called upon to protect the young ladies and the women
Speaker 1: in our society, and then that got thrown out the
Speaker 1: window the second a male was transitioning the female and
Speaker 1: wanted to participate in female sports, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it wasn't any consistency with the stuff that
Speaker 1: had been being spewed beforehand and ultimately enforced, so that
Speaker 1: as the Republicans that we need to be worried about it.
Speaker 2: But not y'all. Y'all would never do such a thing.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it would never be you. It would
Speaker 2: never be y'all. That would never happen. Huh. Really, really,
Speaker 2: this is exactly why Trump is in office.
Speaker 1: Racist, fascist, and all of these other names you had.
Speaker 1: That's what you do when you're on the left, not
Speaker 1: paying attention to the fact that a vast majority of
Speaker 1: American people tie to that. When you're gonna tell us
Speaker 1: a message we want to hear, when you're gonna tell
Speaker 1: us a message we need to hear. Right now, let
Speaker 1: me read to you. Read to you from the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal today. Allow me to put on my reading
Speaker 1: glasses and read this to you. Fir Betam from the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. President Trump plans to sign executive orders
Speaker 1: to overhaul border and energy policies and indiversity programs across
Speaker 1: the federal government, unwinding signature bidy and administration policies.
Speaker 2: On the first day of his second term.
Speaker 1: Trump's immigration plans include ending birth citizenship, deploying troops, and
Speaker 1: declaring a national emergency at the southern border, as well
Speaker 1: as ending asylum by speeding deportations. Trump said as he
Speaker 1: was sworn in on Monday, quote, with these actions, we
Speaker 1: will begin the complete restoration of America and the revolution
Speaker 1: of common sense.
Speaker 2: Those weren't his words. What ammunition would he have to
Speaker 2: say such a thing? How about everything? I put it out.
Speaker 2: Trump didn't win the election, you all lost. You put
Speaker 2: him in there.
Speaker 1: And let me get real raw with this. It got
Speaker 1: so bad with Biden an office. Racism was thrown aside.
Speaker 1: Transgender issues don't make up one percent of this population.
Speaker 1: Black people make up more nearly fourteen percent of this population,
Speaker 1: and for a vast majority of the last few years,
Speaker 1: that issue has been more important than issues pertaining to
Speaker 1: black people.
Speaker 2: It seemed that is just the truth.
Speaker 1: And I didn't even bring up the money. We don't
Speaker 1: have money for police officers. We don't have money to.
Speaker 2: Keep the streets safe.
Speaker 1: We don't have money to make sure there's no inflation,
Speaker 1: or that if there is inflation, it doesn't drastically affect
Speaker 1: us because you got enough people in America making a
Speaker 1: hard earned, honest, fruitful living. But we got enough money
Speaker 1: to let in fourteen million immigrants illegally. We got enough
Speaker 1: money for fifty three million dollars in prepaid credit cards
Speaker 1: in the state of New York. We got enough money
Speaker 1: to allow seventeen cities in the United States to be
Speaker 1: sanctuary cities.
Speaker 2: At least.
Speaker 1: We got enough money to throw billions to Ukraine. We
Speaker 1: got enough money for all of that, but we don't
Speaker 1: have enough money to address the American needs. I've said
Speaker 1: to y'all on repeated occasion, what is my ultimate claim
Speaker 1: to success? It happened in two thousand and nine when
Speaker 1: I got fired and I had to take a long,
Speaker 1: hard look on myself at myself. It's in my book
Speaker 1: Straight Shooter, a member of Second Chances of the First Taket.
Speaker 1: You really should read it. It's very motivational in this opirational.
Speaker 1: She really should check it out. What did I say
Speaker 1: back then? And epiphany hit me? And I learned to
Speaker 1: wake up every day because ninety nine percent of us
Speaker 1: have a boss. And I learned to wake up every
Speaker 1: day and learned that my manager is how do I
Speaker 1: make my bosses more money?
Speaker 2: How do I get some of it?
Speaker 1: Because the system is rigged, ladies and gentlemen, the power
Speaker 1: broke is that be almost all of whom are white,
Speaker 1: have designed a system to ensure they're going to get theirs.
Speaker 2: And in order for you to get yours. Even while
Speaker 2: you're getting yours, they gonna get theirs.
Speaker 1: You just saw me talking about Drake and Kendrick Lamarta
Speaker 1: other day, both of them under the Universe of Music
Speaker 1: Group umbrella.
Speaker 2: You don't think there's white folks in power at the
Speaker 2: Universal Music Group.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: You don't think?
Speaker 1: So you don't think all these artists out here that
Speaker 1: is making money, nain't somebody white near the top or
Speaker 1: at the top that's making sure they get this. Yere agents, lawyers, accountants.
Speaker 1: The system is designed to make sure they get paid.
Speaker 1: The trick is figuring out how you get paid to
Speaker 1: and what the Democrats did over the last few years,
Speaker 1: will somehow managed to figure out a way to convince you, somehow,
Speaker 1: someway you are gonna omit, eliminate and eradicate them and
Speaker 1: have the fruits of your labor all to yourself and
Speaker 1: the Trump administration is a declaration of the obvious hold
Speaker 1: on not so fast a system don't work that way.
Speaker 1: You can go ahead and get yours. We gonna get ours.
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna sit here doling out all of this
Speaker 1: money with one thing after another that ultimately compromises our
Speaker 1: pockets instead.
Speaker 2: Of float them. That's what happened. That's the truth. And
Speaker 2: they come uppance arrived to the left because what they
Speaker 2: tried to do was eliminate an entire system of government
Speaker 2: that the American people are not only comfortable with, but
Speaker 2: addicted to. And everything you see right now is then
Speaker 2: reminding you of that.
Speaker 1: That's why Trump and his administration teased Biden out the door,
Speaker 1: showing a picture.
Speaker 2: Of him and a White House and an eviction.
Speaker 1: Notice, that's why Elon Musk is up there doing whatever
Speaker 1: damn symbols and signals he's doing.
Speaker 2: It's why change came.
Speaker 1: And as alarming as the change is, it seemed closer
Speaker 1: to most Americans citizens to normalcy than what we've been
Speaker 1: experiencing the past four years. This ain't about the right anymore.
Speaker 1: It's about what the left tried to turn this nation
Speaker 1: into and guilted us and fear manged us and intimidated
Speaker 1: us into supporting no more, No More. Independence is the
Speaker 1: way to go. The hell with the right and the left.
Speaker 1: Do what's best for you and do what's best for
Speaker 1: this country. Bump what they think, what they feel, or
Speaker 1: how you should be.
Speaker 2: Enough's enough. Independence is the way to go.
Speaker 1: Because of that reason, more than anything else, one person
Speaker 1: who should just be quiet, not independent, but quiet.
Speaker 2: It's Scottie Pippot. I'll tell you why in ad minute
Speaker 2: you're watching them. Stephen Smith show back with Morning Say
Speaker 2: welcome back to the Steven AI Smith Show.
Speaker 1: Right here for the digital it was a YouTube and
Speaker 1: of course iHeartRadio once again. This is the day we
Speaker 1: celebrate doctor Martin Luther King Junior. I know it didn't
Speaker 1: sound like we were doing that over the first two segments,
Speaker 1: because unfortunately there were issues that we had to delve
Speaker 1: into that seems antithetical to that kind of stuff. It's
Speaker 1: a shame, it really really is one of the greatest
Speaker 1: human beings that have ever existed on this planet Earth,
Speaker 1: a man of peace, of sacrifice, who loved his people,
Speaker 1: who loved what he thought.
Speaker 2: This country could be.
Speaker 1: On a day like today where we celebrate his you know,
Speaker 1: just everything about him. It's Martin Luther King Junior holiday.
Speaker 1: It's not his birthday. His birthday was January fifteenth. Today
Speaker 1: is the day we celebrate him. They designated just for him.
Speaker 1: It seemed weird to say the least, that on a
Speaker 1: day that we're celebrating him is the day that Trump
Speaker 1: would be inaugurated. And obviously there's a lot that black
Speaker 1: folks may feel they should be complaining about when it
Speaker 1: comes to Trump, but there's an awful lot of black
Speaker 1: folks out there, a heightened level of black folks who
Speaker 1: have supported him and felt that liberal policies are the
Speaker 1: kind of things that they should have been complaining about more.
Speaker 2: And they showed that at the voting booth. So it
Speaker 2: is what it is. We are where we are, but.
Speaker 1: No matter where we are in this country, we always
Speaker 1: pause to celebrate one of the greatest human beings God
Speaker 1: ever placed on this earth, an angel, without question, let
Speaker 1: me say this. Moving on to the world of sports,
Speaker 1: before I get into Scottie Pippen and his appearance on
Speaker 1: Patrick Bette David Podcast PbD.
Speaker 2: To be exact, a couple of things I wanted to
Speaker 2: point to.
Speaker 1: Number one, I'm here in Atlanta, Georgia for the National
Speaker 1: Championship Game the night between the Ohio State Buckeyes and
Speaker 1: of course Notre Dame. Notre Dames got one chance. They
Speaker 1: have to be incredibly physical. They have to be the
Speaker 1: more physical team. There's no other way that they're going
Speaker 1: to beat Ohio State. Ohio State just have skilled individuals
Speaker 1: that practically every damn position. Jeremiah Smith is the truth.
Speaker 1: A freshman, He's probably the best receiver in football. He
Speaker 1: is sensational. Will Howard can throw that football at BOOKA
Speaker 1: is no joke.
Speaker 2: As well.
Speaker 1: Treyvion Henderson running out of the backfield, There's no joke.
Speaker 1: Ohio State with their twenty million dollar nil roster, with
Speaker 1: eleven NFL caliber players having returned to the lineup this season,
Speaker 1: they're the best team right now. There is no way
Speaker 1: that No The Dame should win this game unless they
Speaker 1: have a lot of luck, and that's gonna be facilitated
Speaker 1: by an elevated level of physicality.
Speaker 2: Their defense is no joke.
Speaker 1: But offensively, Riley lenn has got to run the football effectively,
Speaker 1: and he's got to throw the football accurately and not
Speaker 1: kill himself by committing turnovers. So I want to get
Speaker 1: that out the way. I've got Ohio State winning this game.
Speaker 1: I would love to see Marcus Freeman win the game.
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King holiday in Atlanta, Georgia black coach winning
Speaker 1: the national championship in football for the first.
Speaker 2: Time, and it's oh my lord, I would love it.
Speaker 1: I just don't see them beating the Ohio State without
Speaker 1: an absolutely perfect game and complete panic and choke job
Speaker 1: on a part of Ohio State.
Speaker 2: So I got Ohio State winning this game. Number one.
Speaker 2: Number two.
Speaker 1: We saw Lamar Jackson lose last night in the AFC
Speaker 1: Divisional playoff game to the Buffalo Bills. I know he
Speaker 1: committed a turnover through a bad interception. I know he
Speaker 1: also committed a full hardy turnover and losing the ball
Speaker 1: that was ultimately scooped up by Von Miller returned a
Speaker 1: few yards before Buffalo scored those seven points. But I
Speaker 1: can't put the weight of the loss to the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: On Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is one of the most reliable tight ends
Speaker 1: in all of football. He got stripped to the ball
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field while they were driving
Speaker 1: by Terrebinard. I saw Todd Munkin again knowing that the
Speaker 1: Ravens were running the football effectively, still refusing to run
Speaker 1: it as much as he should. First game, they blew
Speaker 1: out Buffalo thirty five to ten. During the regular season,
Speaker 1: they accumulated tw hundred seventy one yards rushing. Last night
Speaker 1: it was one seventy six. Not bad at all, but
Speaker 1: you still could have ran the ball more. Then I
Speaker 1: saw Lamar Jackson drive the Baltimore Ravens down the field
Speaker 1: eighty eight yards in crunch time with the game on
Speaker 1: the line, needing to having to have it. Twenty seven
Speaker 1: to nineteen was the deficit. You needed the touchdown in
Speaker 1: the two point conversion. Lamar Jackson got you that touchdown,
Speaker 1: and then he threw the two point conversion right into
Speaker 1: the hands of.
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews, who dropped it. Lamar Jackson was not perfect.
Speaker 2: They gotta stop turning the football over. Those turnovers don't happen.
Speaker 1: They probably win this game, but it was still Theirs
Speaker 1: to win, and Mark Andrews messed up not once, by twice.
Speaker 2: Can not can't take that away from Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Last sports subject is Jaden Daniels for the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, this brother is the truth.
Speaker 1: Now, I know that the Detroit Lions had a bunch
Speaker 1: of dudes on the injured reserve, on the injured list
Speaker 1: rather on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2: I don't give a damn. Jaden Daniels is that dude.
Speaker 1: Now he's got the biggest challenge of his life going
Speaker 1: up against the Philadelphia Eagles this weekend in Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game for a right to go to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I get that part, but I will.
Speaker 1: Remind all of y'all that Jayden Daniels has played the
Speaker 1: two playoff games as a rookie. In his career, He's
Speaker 1: accumulated over six hundred and fifty yards, six touchdowns, three interceptions,
Speaker 1: completing seventy percent of his passes sixty five percent of
Speaker 1: his passes. I'm sorry, the brothers the real deal, no
Speaker 1: panic in him, and Washington knows what they have on
Speaker 1: his hands. He's better than RG three was, and RG
Speaker 1: three was fantastic before Holoadly NodD and nearly had his leg.
Speaker 2: Amputated with that vicious hit.
Speaker 1: Even before, well then, as great as RG three looked,
Speaker 1: he didn't look like this.
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels is the truth and a half.
Speaker 1: And if he beats Philadelphia with Vic Fangio's defense coming
Speaker 1: at him and he finds a way to pull this off,
Speaker 1: I think Jayden Daniels might win the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: think Jaden Daniels might be Patrick Mahomes with Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I don't know that yet, but I think he could.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that. Now, let me turn
Speaker 1: my attention to Scottie Pippen, six time NBA Champion, Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, one of the top seventy five players in
Speaker 1: the history of basketball, who recently sat down with Patrick
Speaker 1: Bett David and turned heads with a lot of things
Speaker 1: that he was saying that quite frankly, I felt, well
Speaker 1: utterly nonsensical. Give me take one with Scottie Pippen talking
Speaker 1: about six rings versus Lebron.
Speaker 7: Listen to this, Would you put yourself ahead of Lebron
Speaker 7: as a team standpoint?
Speaker 8: My success as a team is more successful pulling Lebron.
Speaker 8: I got six rings.
Speaker 7: Okay, So then if I if I talk to an
Speaker 7: NBA owner, By the way, this is very helpful because
Speaker 7: this is very helpful because for me as a fan,
Speaker 7: I've followed this. So if I speak from an NBA
Speaker 7: standpoint owner, and I want to find an all around
Speaker 7: player to be my number one. You think the average
Speaker 7: owner is going to pick you or Lebron?
Speaker 8: I don't know, got it?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 8: So that you want individual accolade, so you want championships
Speaker 8: because I didn't chase Minds Scottie.
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, excuse my language. That's some straight bullshit.
Speaker 2: Stop stop.
Speaker 1: I challenge anybody to find me a better defensive player
Speaker 1: than Scottie Pippen. Michael Jordan has said on many occasions
Speaker 1: he doesn't win six rings without Scotty, and not get
Speaker 1: that Scotty.
Speaker 2: You were never that dude offensively, stop stop it. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm as critical of Lebron James as anybody who's fair minded,
Speaker 1: not these haters out here and not these people that
Speaker 1: you know. I'm neither a hater, nor I'm the one
Speaker 1: that kisses his touch every chance you get. Lebron James
Speaker 1: is one of the top two three players in the
Speaker 1: history of basketball, and you know it.
Speaker 2: How do we know?
Speaker 1: You know that there's certain times you flirted with him
Speaker 1: being better than Michael Jordan, and you know that's blasphemy.
Speaker 1: But you were never that offensive player.
Speaker 2: Scottie. You know how we know because when Jordan retired
Speaker 2: the first go around, you had an opportunity to be
Speaker 2: that dude.
Speaker 1: You were an All Star, you know, All Star Game VP.
Speaker 1: You took them to the Eastern Conference semifinals. The Hugh
Speaker 1: Hollins callt was awful against Hubert Davis on you. I
Speaker 1: got that against you rather on Hubert Davis. I got
Speaker 1: that part. But Scottie Pipper, you didn't get it done.
Speaker 1: And if you were that dude, how come you couldn't
Speaker 1: be like Kobe and be like Yo, I want Shaq gone.
Speaker 1: I want to show you what the hell I could
Speaker 1: do without Shaq in your case, without Michael Jordan. Know,
Speaker 1: when Michael Jordan was on, you kicked up your feet
Speaker 1: to show you with wearing Jordan's begging him to stop
Speaker 1: playing baseball and to come back.
Speaker 2: You forgot that, Scottie.
Speaker 1: Tell her you talking about and we can accuse Lebron
Speaker 1: James of a lot of things. The brother got four rings, Scotty,
Speaker 1: He's got four He's been to ten NBA finals and
Speaker 1: by the way, he never had a migraine in a
Speaker 1: game seven. It never happened only to you. But I digress.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Scottie Pipper again, because he wasn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't stop there. He was talking about who his goat is.
Speaker 2: Magic is goat. Listen to this.
Speaker 8: It's not even worth talking about the two of them.
Speaker 8: When you ask who's better Lebron or Michael, you can't
Speaker 8: ask me who's the goat between Lebron and Michael. Neither
Speaker 8: one of them are goats. They both won differently. You
Speaker 8: can't put them at the top of the pinnacle. Magic Johnson,
Speaker 8: to me, is a bigger goat than anybody because of
Speaker 8: how he laid how he brought a whole team, how
Speaker 8: when the greatest scorer in the game, Karem was not
Speaker 8: there in him as a rookie center steps in and
Speaker 8: plays a position that no one even knew he could play.
Speaker 8: That's transcending what you can do as a player.
Speaker 1: See that's the bullet right there, not bullster right there,
Speaker 1: right there, right there.
Speaker 2: You just told them yourself. I'm gonna get to that
Speaker 2: in a second. What's the game.
Speaker 1: Great job by Patrick David. Great job, well, Scott, he
Speaker 1: didn't stop dad when it came to the goat. Listen
Speaker 1: to what he said here about.
Speaker 7: Himself, you saying I want to be remembered as the
Speaker 7: greatest of all time. How much of that was really
Speaker 7: what you believed in. How much of that was you
Speaker 7: trying to sell a book, and how much of that
Speaker 7: was somebody behind closed doors flattering you, saying you didn't
Speaker 7: get enough credit for what you did during the Chicago's run.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 8: I think it's just me believing in myself in the
Speaker 8: way that I played the game. I did it were
Speaker 8: I won, I played the right way. My teammates loved
Speaker 8: the way that I played, and people my peers respected
Speaker 8: the way that I played, and I feel like that
Speaker 8: I got out of the game everything that I put
Speaker 8: into it.
Speaker 7: Flattery is to put a little wedge between you. I
Speaker 7: know it's not a comfortable thing to probably talk about,
Speaker 7: But did any of that happen where someone was saying,
Speaker 7: come on, Scotty, Michael would have never won six without you.
Speaker 7: Come on, Scotty this and Michael said it himself. But
Speaker 7: from your standpoint, no.
Speaker 8: That's you know. The reason why I say stuff like
Speaker 8: that is because when you play the game the way
Speaker 8: that I played it, you play on both ends. Why
Speaker 8: can't I say that.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's Okay, you can say that.
Speaker 8: So no one I'm saying you can't say yeah and
Speaker 8: say it and mean it. Oh so you do believe
Speaker 8: that I'm saying, yeah, look at my Look at the stats.
Speaker 8: I got six rings two. Look at my accolades, I
Speaker 8: got defensive player all NBA. So playing the game the
Speaker 8: right way in winning mean something to me, and it
Speaker 8: meant a lot to me. I don't have the MVPs,
Speaker 8: but guess what somebody that was with me got it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, drug test him now? I want test.
Speaker 1: Take him into ka urine sample, get a blood test.
Speaker 1: Drug test him now. You got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1: I can't believe what we just heard. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: And damn Patrick Brett Davis, I love you, but let
Speaker 1: me tell you something right now. If you try to
Speaker 1: tell me that Scottie Priveleys is justified and calling himself
Speaker 1: the best, you need to be drug tested too. Olius, Olius?
Speaker 1: How you gonna be? How you the best when you
Speaker 1: wann't even the best on your own team? How you
Speaker 1: the best when you want even the number one option?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 2: Oh? This it?
Speaker 1: It hurts me because I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1: If you're the best. Why were you calling for Jordan?
Speaker 1: If you're the best. Why were you pouting on a
Speaker 1: bench when Phil Jackson called Tony Kooker coach's number instead
Speaker 1: of yours in a playoff series against the Knicks? If
Speaker 1: you the best, why was Bill Cartwright in the locker
Speaker 1: room crying while excoriating you from abandoning your teammates? You led,
Speaker 1: you led, You also quit, you quit. You had a
Speaker 1: migraine in eighty seven. I mean you had a migraine
Speaker 1: in a Game seven against the Pistons.
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was.
Speaker 1: Left crying on the bus in his daddy's arms, talking
Speaker 1: about where we're gonna win. Bill Cartwright already told you
Speaker 1: was crying. What are you talking about? Michael Jordan averaged
Speaker 1: over thirty. About eight or nine times you played defense.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan wasn't First team All NBA Defensive Team. Nine
Speaker 1: times you had to play defense because you wanted that
Speaker 1: great offensively tremendous athleticism.
Speaker 2: Six ' nine, could.
Speaker 1: Dunk on anybody, as Patrick Ewan would tell you, had.
Speaker 2: A sporadic jump shot.
Speaker 1: You were big enough, in physical enough, and talented enough
Speaker 1: to score on an open court. But a number one
Speaker 1: option key the pond. That wasn't your game. That was
Speaker 1: Lebron's game. That wasn't your game. That was Kobe's game.
Speaker 1: That wasn't your game. That was Michael Jordan's game. Hel
Speaker 1: Vince Carter was a number one option. Helen Officer was
Speaker 1: a number one option. What are you talking about? What
Speaker 1: are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Goat? You?
Speaker 1: You wanted a great ones, you wanted a great one Scotti,
Speaker 1: But the goat when your teammate was Scott was Michael Jordan. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, I didn't even bring up when you
Speaker 1: went to Portland because you wanted your money, you went
Speaker 1: to Portland. Wasn't that you went to wat Portland trail
Speaker 1: up about fifteen in that game seven when Kobe through
Speaker 1: the alley oop to Shaq, who brought down the house one?
Speaker 2: That's your team? What's y'all?
Speaker 1: One trip away from the finals. Wasn't that you were
Speaker 1: talking about? He's talking about?
Speaker 2: I got a question, Pat Bet Patrick bet David. I
Speaker 2: got a question.
Speaker 1: Because you like your basketball, you know your basketball. A
Speaker 1: lot of you don't realize how much you know about basketball.
Speaker 2: What a big NBA fan you are. I got a
Speaker 2: question for you. Was there ever a time, Patrick Bette Davis.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm calling you out, my brother, because I love you. You
Speaker 1: know I love you and the crew. Y'all know that
Speaker 1: I was just hanging out with you another day. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question, man, is there any time
Speaker 1: in your lifetime watching basketball that you either set yourself
Speaker 1: or heard somebody say Scottie Pippen was in a gold conversation?
Speaker 2: Ever? I got another question for you. Has Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 1: All of these years ever said that he's been asked
Speaker 1: about Jordan and Lebron or Jordan versus Lebron, or Jordan
Speaker 1: versus Kobe forever. Scottie Pippen never told nobody, Nah, it's
Speaker 1: actually me that should be in their conversation. But the
Speaker 1: book is out now, and the book's been out for
Speaker 1: a while, and he's still salty about the Last Dance
Speaker 1: because it was about Jordan instead of the team, not
Speaker 1: realizing the power of television, and television knew that selling
Speaker 1: talking about the Bulls as the Last Dance, if it
Speaker 1: didn't come through the prism of Jordan, would have never
Speaker 1: been popular. But he doesn't get that this television, it's film.
Speaker 1: If it didn't go through the Prism of Jordan. It
Speaker 1: had never sold, but neither here nor there. The fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is, do we have a picture of
Speaker 1: his book? Do you have a pictures of the book cover?
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta get that at some point put
Speaker 1: up on full screen.
Speaker 2: We gotta do that.
Speaker 1: We gotta do that for Scotty, because clearly you want
Speaker 1: to sell a book. Because we ain't heard this before.
Speaker 1: We ain't heard this before. I ain't gotta be kidding me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be kidding me.
Speaker 2: Oh my lord.
Speaker 1: Everybody need to get truck tested first, even me. Hell,
Speaker 1: I need to get drug tested. I might smart smoking,
Speaker 1: so we just I can get.
Speaker 2: Let me do something. I might start smoking, so weed.
Speaker 1: Just to get this damn thinking, I just damn thinking
Speaker 1: out of my head.
Speaker 2: This is blasphemy. Better than Lebron, better than MJ.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on, man, you know better than that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave this alone from now. I might have
Speaker 1: to revisit this in a couple of days, but I
Speaker 1: gotta move on because I gotta get on out of here.
Speaker 1: Maybe the biggest story of the week, and bigger than
Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs and this Scottie Pippen stuff and all
Speaker 1: of that and the inauguration combined was to shut down
Speaker 1: a subsequent respiration of TikTok, which is being credited to
Speaker 1: Trump by many, by the way, including those of TikTok.
Speaker 2: That'll up next. That's what I need to discuss.
Speaker 1: Roe Connor, Representative out of the seventeenth District of California
Speaker 1: Congressional figure.
Speaker 2: He's up next. Don't go away. Got something to show
Speaker 2: y'all about TikTok. You don't want to miss it before
Speaker 2: I get on out of here today, right here on
Speaker 2: the Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith Show, because I got a head on over to
Speaker 1: the National Championship game between Notre Dame and the Ohio
Speaker 1: State tonight in Atlanta, Georgia. Let me touch on this
Speaker 1: story involving TikTok, the restoration of TikTok, because it was
Speaker 1: canceled as blacked out. You know, it was blacked out
Speaker 1: in the United States of America as you can see there,
Speaker 1: you know, people crying, kids crying, everybody going crazy and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And then it ultimately was restored and naturally,
Speaker 1: now President Donald Trump, then President elect Donald Trump, was
Speaker 1: taking credit for its restoration at its celebration and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But Before I get into that, I want
Speaker 1: to show you Donald Trump speaking about TikTok years ago
Speaker 1: when he was the president, and then him speaking about
Speaker 1: it recently taken credit for its restoration.
Speaker 2: Take a look.
Speaker 10: When I wanted to disable TikTok three years ago, I
Speaker 10: was met with opposition from Rhinos, Democrats and everyone else.
Speaker 10: They actually went to court in an effort to stop me.
Speaker 3: We're looking at TikTok.
Speaker 10: We may be banning TikTok, we may be doing some
Speaker 10: other things.
Speaker 2: There are a couple of options, but a.
Speaker 7: Lot of things are happening, so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 10: But we are looking at a lot of alternatives.
Speaker 3: With respect to TikTok. We gave them until September fifteen.
Speaker 3: After that they got a close shop. Okay, that's TikTok.
Speaker 3: We're looking at TikTok.
Speaker 10: We're thinking about making a decision.
Speaker 2: We're going to be watching the hearings today.
Speaker 10: Very closely, because there's no question is that watching the
Speaker 10: big tech companies are doing. And as of today, TikTok
Speaker 10: is back. So you know, I did a little TikTok thing.
Speaker 3: We have a guy TikTok.
Speaker 10: Jackie is a young kid like twenty one years old,
Speaker 10: and we hired this guy and I went on TikTok
Speaker 10: and you believe what I'll do to win an election.
Speaker 10: And we went on TikTok and Republicans.
Speaker 3: Have never won the young vote, the youth vote.
Speaker 10: They win a lot of votes, but they never won
Speaker 10: the youth vote. We won the youth vote by thirty
Speaker 10: six points.
Speaker 2: So I like TikTok.
Speaker 3: I like him.
Speaker 1: Now he likes it. Amazing what election time can do
Speaker 1: for you. So and he's got TikTok because the executive
Speaker 1: for TikTok was at the inauguration. Of course, Jeff Bezos
Speaker 1: for Amazon was there. Mark Zuckerberg for Meta, Facebook, Instagram,
Speaker 1: he was there, and of course Elon Musk for x
Speaker 1: is there. Notice how your now president is insulating himself
Speaker 1: with individuals who control airwave spend, et cetera. Because all
Speaker 1: the newspapers in the country, all the television networks, they
Speaker 1: don't have the reach these streaming platforms have, and you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to control dissemination.
Speaker 2: Of messages the world over.
Speaker 1: Everybody don't have ESPN and Fox News and all of
Speaker 1: this stuff. But they got TikTok, they got asks, they
Speaker 1: got meta, Facebook, Instagram, that kind of thing they got that.
Speaker 2: These most of them do.
Speaker 1: Anyway, before I get to Representative Connor on his show
Speaker 1: with Me, I wanted you to see what Roland Martin
Speaker 1: had to say about this whole TikTok brew ha ha.
Speaker 1: And now President Donald Trump take a look.
Speaker 11: So let me explain to y'all real quick, the con
Speaker 11: artist Donald Trump. It was Donald Trump who called for
Speaker 11: the ban of TikTok. It was Donald Trump who pushed
Speaker 11: Congress to get it done. More Republicans voted to ban
Speaker 11: TikTok than Democrats. Go look at Charlie Kirk okay, Trump's
Speaker 11: biggest ass kisser. You know what he was saying. He
Speaker 11: was tweets saying, We've got to get rid of TikTok.
Speaker 11: The Chinese government owns it. Now it's oh, we have
Speaker 11: to save TikTok. So Donald Trump is going to try
Speaker 11: to set him up as oh I saved TikTok when
Speaker 11: he was the one who initiated the band. Y'all got
Speaker 11: to stop falling for the okie dope with this con artist, Okay,
Speaker 11: just stop falling for it. And so if he tries
Speaker 11: to force to be sold to American he wants it
Speaker 11: to be sold to his conservative folks so they can
Speaker 11: control TikTok, Twitter, Meta, Instagram and all the platforms.
Speaker 2: Don't be conned exactly. Rollingmand is absolutely right.
Speaker 1: The only thing Rollandmard did wrong in that video was
Speaker 1: the outfit that he was wearing because the Houston Texas
Speaker 1: just got sent told by the Can City Chiefs. Although controversially,
Speaker 1: I might add, because so many people thought that that
Speaker 1: phantom call against uh in favor of Patrick Mahomes, against
Speaker 1: Will Anderson and those boys was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: But the only thing.
Speaker 1: Wrong with what Roland Martin, what Roland Martin showed you
Speaker 1: there was the outfit he was wearing because they Home
Speaker 1: and Kansas City Chiefs are the n AFC Championship game. Yet, again,
Speaker 1: having said all of that, he's not wrong.
Speaker 2: We could see that Boo boo, the fool could see that.
Speaker 1: We know exactly what Donald Trump is doing with this
Speaker 1: regard because he wants TikTok to be purchased, you know,
Speaker 1: away from Byte Dance, which is China owned and owned
Speaker 1: by some US cooperation, probably some conservative on and yet
Speaker 1: as a result, they'd be beholden to him and his
Speaker 1: messaging and so you have a situation where it'd be
Speaker 1: again TikTok, Meta, Facebook, Instagram, Acts, etc.
Speaker 2: You know Amazon with its distribution on because.
Speaker 1: It ain't just goods and services they got, they got
Speaker 1: a streaming on itself that is for formidable and is
Speaker 1: growing every single day with Jeff Bezos at the Helm. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got news for you. Look at who Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has surrounded himself with. He's insulated himself and at any
Speaker 1: given moment as the President of the United States, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a heavy hand. The dams saw this, but
Speaker 1: you still messed up because you didn't have a candidate
Speaker 1: to beat him. It's that simple. You did this to yourself.
Speaker 1: That's just the truth. But that's a different subject for
Speaker 1: another day. Staying with TikTok, there is a Democratic representative
Speaker 1: that's been doing good work and has been saying some
Speaker 1: very productive things on this subject for very substantive reasons.
Speaker 1: He is a representative out of the seventeenth District of California.
Speaker 1: He is mister Roe Connor. He is with me right now,
Speaker 1: Representative Connor.
Speaker 2: How are you so? How's everything going good? Stephen?
Speaker 9: And thank you for having me on your show. I've
Speaker 9: been a fan for years, so I'm glad to be on.
Speaker 2: The honor and privileges mindset.
Speaker 1: Before I even get into these questions about TikTok, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that you yourself, your family, your homes are safe,
Speaker 1: and everything is okay with you out in California.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be appropriate to start there, sir. How
Speaker 2: are things.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 9: I'm up in the north of the state, Silicon Valley,
Speaker 9: so we've been safe. Unfortunately, some of the constituents have
Speaker 9: family friends.
Speaker 3: In La which has just been devastated.
Speaker 9: I'm glad we were talking earlier, and I'm glad your
Speaker 9: home is okay, but I'm sure you know a ton
Speaker 9: of people who just lost their homes devastated. Some people
Speaker 9: haven't been able to move back in. It's just been awful,
Speaker 9: and I hope the country can come together to rebuild
Speaker 9: and forget the politics, and people's lives are in stake,
Speaker 9: their homes are at stake. We got to come together
Speaker 9: on this.
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, absolutely, and that's something that
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about in the days, the weeks,
Speaker 1: and the months to come.
Speaker 2: Make no mistake about that.
Speaker 1: But one of the other things that have basically rocked
Speaker 1: the foundation of America at least for at least for
Speaker 1: a little bit, was the specter of TikTok being canceled.
Speaker 1: And obviously you've been a preeminent voice on that issue.
Speaker 1: Just to educate my audience, tell the audience about what
Speaker 1: the whole TikTok issue is about and what your position
Speaker 1: on it has been all along.
Speaker 9: There is a concern that TikTok is owned by a
Speaker 9: Chinese Communist Party's affiliate, some company connected to the Chinese
Speaker 9: Communist Party. Now sixty percent of the investors are American.
Speaker 9: But the concern was could our data go to the
Speaker 9: Chinese government or could the Chinese government interfere with the algorithm?
Speaker 9: And what I said is okay, if you have those concerns,
Speaker 9: first of all, show evidence of it, show evidence that
Speaker 9: it's TikTok doing it and not data brokers or other
Speaker 9: social media And let's pass a law saying it's illegal
Speaker 9: to take any American data and give it to the
Speaker 9: Chinese Communist Party, or pass the law saying the Chinese
Speaker 9: Commutist Party shouldn't be interfering on any social media algorithm.
Speaker 9: But instead, what the law did is it called for
Speaker 9: banning it, and I'll tell you I talked to some
Speaker 9: of the people on TikTok.
Speaker 3: I mean, folks think it's all song and dance or
Speaker 3: just sports. It's not.
Speaker 9: I mean I talked to a mom. Her husband cheated
Speaker 9: on her. She's got four kids, two toddlers, two special
Speaker 9: needs kids. She was broke on one of her friends
Speaker 9: couches for four months, and then she started telling her
Speaker 9: story on TikTok. And she makes sixty to seventy grand
Speaker 9: to take care of her kids. Someone else is paying rent.
Speaker 9: And all of this was going to get shut down.
Speaker 9: And so we had a one point three million people
Speaker 9: in forty three forty eight hours sign a petition saying
Speaker 9: keep this up. And fortunately, even though it went dark,
Speaker 9: it's now up. And I don't think banning the app
Speaker 9: is the solution.
Speaker 1: When people wanted it banned. Who exactly were these people
Speaker 1: number one and number two? What was the most profound
Speaker 1: argument you were concerned was being made to indeed band TikTok.
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of these people were China hawks. They
Speaker 3: said that we.
Speaker 9: Can't have China have any control over Americans data.
Speaker 3: And if I actually thought that.
Speaker 9: Our data was getting in the hands of the Chinese
Speaker 9: Communist Party through tiktak, and that there was no other
Speaker 9: way to prevent it.
Speaker 3: I'd be for the ban, but there are other solutions.
Speaker 9: The Texas Project, for example, says make sure all the
Speaker 9: data is managed by Oracle, and you can't have any
Speaker 9: of the data leave the United States. If I really
Speaker 9: thought the Chinese Commuties Party was doing this algorithm to
Speaker 9: manipulate things, I'd be concerned.
Speaker 3: That was the concern.
Speaker 9: But look, Steve and I we have a history in
Speaker 9: this country of using national security concerns for government overreach.
Speaker 9: We've in turned all the Japanese with Fdr maccarthier, we
Speaker 9: called everyone a communist. I think this was government overreach.
Speaker 2: You know, I've thought about that myself.
Speaker 1: The thing that kind of scared me, what have you,
Speaker 1: is when they kept like you called them China hawks.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's an appropriate way to label those folks.
Speaker 1: But when they brought in issues of using these apps,
Speaker 1: these algorithms, etc. To sort of spy on us, to
Speaker 1: indoctrinate our children with certain things. And then you see,
Speaker 1: I have two daughters, and you see how addicted these
Speaker 1: young minds.
Speaker 2: Are to TikTok.
Speaker 1: The part about adults using it as a small business
Speaker 1: essentially to generate revenue for themselves. That's entirely different than
Speaker 1: youngsters using it, it being a form of education for them,
Speaker 1: a news outlet for them in various situations, many situations,
Speaker 1: I might add, what about those China Hawks who made
Speaker 1: those concerns?
Speaker 2: How much did that move you? If at all?
Speaker 3: Well, the young people reaching out moved me a lot.
Speaker 9: I had a lot of messages and nieces who've been
Speaker 9: in Congress eight years who've never cared about a single
Speaker 9: thing I did, who suddenly started texting me saying, please
Speaker 9: save TikTok.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot.
Speaker 9: Of good uses of TikTok given for young folks, whether
Speaker 9: they're building community of whether they're learning on education. Now,
Speaker 9: social media has harms, and I'm not going to deny
Speaker 9: that some of the social media has harmed young people,
Speaker 9: particularly young girls, where they're eating disorder issues or suicidal thoughts.
Speaker 9: And so fine, let's pass there's a Kid's Online Safety
Speaker 9: Act that says, let's create a standard so that any
Speaker 9: of these apps, whether it's Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, should not
Speaker 9: be proliferating things to young folks that are going to
Speaker 9: cause harm. But you can't just ban the app and
Speaker 9: take away a sense of community for folks. And this
Speaker 9: most of the people in Congress.
Speaker 3: Here's the hypocrisy that I want to point out.
Speaker 9: They voted for the band, and then they go tell
Speaker 9: their campaign teams go get me the most followers on
Speaker 9: TikTok because that's where the voters are. And everyone, every
Speaker 9: member of Congress, every stand or everyone running.
Speaker 3: For president wanted to grow their following. So there was
Speaker 3: a lot of hypocrisy in the whole thing.
Speaker 1: We sort of had a TikTok the own of TikTok
Speaker 1: he was seeing at now President Donald Trump's inauguration.
Speaker 2: What are we to make of that?
Speaker 9: In your eyes, I'm sure they have some kind of
Speaker 9: an agreement, you know. I believe that he's probably trying
Speaker 9: to curry favor with Trump. In my view, we shouldn't
Speaker 9: allow Trump to be the savior here. It should be
Speaker 9: a position that even Democrats say that there should be
Speaker 9: American investment.
Speaker 3: But not a band.
Speaker 9: But my guess is that that was orchestrated with Trump
Speaker 9: and the TikTok CEO, that it would go dark for
Speaker 9: twelve hours and then Trump would reinstate it and they
Speaker 9: probably have some agreement already.
Speaker 1: How much would from a percentage standpoint representative of Connor,
Speaker 1: how much would you say in terms of support you've
Speaker 1: received from the left as opposed to the other side
Speaker 1: of the isle on the right, How would you percentage wise?
Speaker 1: What kind of percentage would you place on a level
Speaker 1: of support you've received with your position on this.
Speaker 3: You know, it's been both.
Speaker 9: Actually, I think a lot of it on the TikTok
Speaker 9: position of the one point three Mills signature is.
Speaker 3: Probably over half.
Speaker 9: Because I'm on the left and as the democratic politician,
Speaker 9: over half of it has been the left.
Speaker 3: But we've also had conservatives.
Speaker 9: And the reality is there are a lot of young
Speaker 9: people who have out of the mainstream views, whether it's
Speaker 9: on foreign policy, whether it is on policies that are
Speaker 9: more conservative, and they're saying, you get all these politicians
Speaker 9: saying we want young people involved. Then they get involved
Speaker 9: on these apps and they're taking those apps away. So
Speaker 9: I you know, I think we're moving in this country
Speaker 9: not to left right, but more towards people questioning the
Speaker 9: establishment and wondering are you for people or are you
Speaker 9: going to just do what this Beltway establishment has done?
Speaker 9: And Frankly, I think for the Democratic Party to get
Speaker 9: on the right side of this, we got to be
Speaker 9: listening to people.
Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons I enjoy your.
Speaker 9: Commentary even when I don't agree with you, because you
Speaker 9: don't just listen to what the think tank in groups
Speaker 9: tell you. You know, one of the biggest myths in Washington.
Speaker 9: They tell you two hundred groups are for something, and
Speaker 9: I want to know how many people, because a lot
Speaker 9: of times it's two hundred groups with one hundred and
Speaker 9: thirty people, and they just make these organizations up and
Speaker 9: they're not listening to people on the ground.
Speaker 1: You know, I really are really appreciated and more than
Speaker 1: you know you saying that about me a congressman, because
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't pretend to be right all
Speaker 1: the time, not by a long shot. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is the information that is available to us, I look
Speaker 1: at it and deduce what my opinion should be based
Speaker 1: on the information that's given. Somebody like you are significantly
Speaker 1: more informed. You'll know more than I do.
Speaker 2: So will others.
Speaker 1: But you know the argument I make to people like that,
Speaker 1: I say to them, I'm the voter, because most voters
Speaker 1: aren't as you know, in tuned with all of the
Speaker 1: intel and all of the information, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: say to the voter out there you don't know?
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: They know enough to decide what they want to vote
Speaker 1: about and what they want to vote in favor of.
Speaker 1: And I think that's important that you mentioned that, because
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that so many
Speaker 1: people miss. They're really ready to come back and talk
Speaker 1: about what's right or wrong as opposed to looking at
Speaker 1: the information that's disseminated and understanding. People are basing their feeling,
Speaker 1: the emotions, their passions based off of the intel that
Speaker 1: has been presented to them.
Speaker 2: So I think it's important to say that.
Speaker 1: Having said that, there are different versions of TikTok in
Speaker 1: other countries, could you explain why that is and whether
Speaker 1: or not that is a concern you may have.
Speaker 9: Well, look, this is one of the reasons other countries
Speaker 9: like India era others have banned TikTok because they felt
Speaker 9: that TikTok was going to propagate at false information or
Speaker 9: propaganda a couple of things.
Speaker 3: One, I actually think the free speech tradition in.
Speaker 9: America is very strong, and they are multiple apps, and
Speaker 9: we can educate young people and our citizens to have
Speaker 9: common sense. I wouldn't under undersell yourself, Staven. I mean,
Speaker 9: you may not have all the details, but you've got
Speaker 9: common sense and you have.
Speaker 3: An independent opinion.
Speaker 9: Like I don't know, a lot of times I see
Speaker 9: people on TV, I can tell you exactly what they're
Speaker 9: going to say. I can finish their sentences. In your case,
Speaker 9: I don't know, is he going to be for the
Speaker 9: democratic position? Is he going to agree sometimes with the
Speaker 9: end of tender republican position? Because it's common sense, that's
Speaker 9: what most people are. And I think what we need
Speaker 9: to focus in this country on is making sure in
Speaker 9: high school and junior high school kids have the ability
Speaker 9: to think for themselves and then be on multiple platforms
Speaker 9: instead of being so hyper concerned about where they're going
Speaker 9: to get their information.
Speaker 2: Got it.
Speaker 1: Should the fact that TikTok is banned in mainland China
Speaker 1: be of concern because it clearly is. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to accuse you of not being concerned about it,
Speaker 1: but certainly it doesn't supersede whether you feel.
Speaker 2: Are you concerned about that at all?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm concerned about China in general banning, not just TikTok,
Speaker 3: But why why do they ban X?
Speaker 9: I mean, I think Elon Musk had a reasonable point
Speaker 9: that if we're going to allow TikTok, you should be
Speaker 9: allowing X, you should be allowing Instagram. But look, China
Speaker 9: is not the United States of America. I mean, the
Speaker 9: reason everyone around the world wants to come to the
Speaker 9: United States of America is because we're a free country,
Speaker 9: because you can have differences of opinion. So, yeah, China
Speaker 9: has created a huge manufacturing base, They've created.
Speaker 3: A trillion dollar export economy. But you can't have an
Speaker 3: opinion there.
Speaker 9: You can't criticize ggiping, you can't go run for office,
Speaker 9: you can't be a commentator with a podcast.
Speaker 3: I don't want to live in that society. So is
Speaker 3: China playing fear? No?
Speaker 9: But does that mean that America should model ourselves over China.
Speaker 9: Absolutely not. We're a better organized society.
Speaker 1: You've led legislation right to keep the app? Where do
Speaker 1: you go from here? Because it was canceled and now
Speaker 1: it's back up, but we don't know how long.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you think is next?
Speaker 9: Well, Rand Paul and I have legislation to try to
Speaker 9: repeal the legislation that calls for a ban of TikTok
Speaker 9: and have something more common sense that says protect Americans
Speaker 9: data with a data privacy law, protect American social media
Speaker 9: from foreign interference by the Chinese Counties Party or other adversaries.
Speaker 9: But if that legislation doesn't pass, and it's an uphill
Speaker 9: to get enough House and Senate members, I'm going to
Speaker 9: work with Michael Waltz, who's President Trump's National security advisor.
Speaker 9: He and I were colleagues on the House Armed Services
Speaker 9: Committee in Congress, and to work with him to see
Speaker 9: how do we have a resolution to.
Speaker 3: This so that you don't have this drama happening every ninety.
Speaker 9: Days, but that we get TikTok operational compliant, assuring people
Speaker 9: that their data is.
Speaker 3: Going to be safe.
Speaker 1: Representative of Rocana, Representative Congressman from the seventeenth District of California.
Speaker 1: It's been a non and a privilege to have you
Speaker 1: on today, sir, Thank you so much. You take care
Speaker 1: maia honor.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me and talking about this.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you are what he had to say, It's
Speaker 1: a lot to think about, and especially taking into account
Speaker 1: what he explained and what Roland Martin pointed out, and
Speaker 1: what we've seen is the visuals alone. We need to
Speaker 1: keep our eyes on what exactly is going to happen
Speaker 1: with the TikTok yes has been restored for how long?
Speaker 1: What legislation, if any, will be passed out to the
Speaker 1: Republic have control of the House and the Senate and
Speaker 1: the White House. And then in the aftermath of all
Speaker 1: of that, if it ultimately is confiscated from the hands
Speaker 1: of some Chinese entity and it's placed in the hands
Speaker 1: of someone in America or businesses in America, how beholden
Speaker 1: will those businesses be.
Speaker 2: To Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: And how will the narratives be influenced now and for
Speaker 1: years to come. You can call it whatever you want.
Speaker 1: They can call it fascism or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: Hell in the end, we don't know. They might be right.
Speaker 1: But all it would mean if you're a Democrat, if
Speaker 1: you're a Democratic representative, if you're a member of that
Speaker 1: side of the aisle, all it would mean is that
Speaker 1: you did it.
Speaker 2: Not the American people.
Speaker 1: Had you taken care of us the way you were
Speaker 1: supposed to, by making sure the right things were important
Speaker 1: to the constituency, it would not have come to this
Speaker 1: It's on y'all, not us, not people like me who
Speaker 1: voted for you and now people like Donald Trump supporters
Speaker 1: who voted against you and voted for him.
Speaker 2: You did this, he was done in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: You resurrected him. Live with that.
Speaker 1: We know we have to, but we damn sure don't
Speaker 1: have to listen to you tell us, especially when you're
Speaker 1: the ones that fall in the end. I'm out, y'all.
Speaker 1: Stephen A signing off, see you in a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Peace of love,