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Speaker 2: So pregnancy, having my first child, titties, we didn't know

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Speaker 3: Are they gonna go away? Do they stay? What's the vibe?

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Speaker 1: And because we're family now, Candice, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: all the tea and listen. Sometimes that tea gets real cold,

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna keep it hot. Dead Assadas, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: Kadean and we're the Ellis's.

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Speaker 4: You may know us from posting funny videos with our.

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Speaker 3: Voice and reading each other publicly as a form of therapy.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I make you need their most days.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Oh and one more important thing to mention, we're married, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 5: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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Speaker 5: is a term that we say every day. So when

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Speaker 3: We about to take Philosov to a whole new level.

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Speaker 3: Dead ass starts right now.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to take you back to November twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: And I love that. There was so much going on

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Speaker 2: It didn't start out as a love story, girl. We

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Speaker 2: Then he took me to breakfast. He facetied me the

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Speaker 3: You're about to see me, baby, baby, with no clean face.

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Speaker 2: We were eating breakfast for three hours. You know, nobody

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Speaker 2: they're like, girl, you're fine.

438
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 3: You're actually really I was wanted to. They're like, you're

439
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: actually really healthy.

440
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: So healthy you dance, yeah, you know, work out and

441
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 2: eat clean, You'll be fine, literally sending me out of

442
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: the doctor's office. I'm like, b something is going on

443
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: and I don't know what it is. And at the

444
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: time I had just been engaged, So that was around

445
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: the time it all started happening, right around when Omar proposed.

446
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: So now you're thinking to yourself, proposal wedding. I gained

447
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 1: this extra thirty pounds.

448
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: I need to get it off. I want. Yeah.

449
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: They say, did you guys know you wanted to have

450
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: children right away? Or was it that you guys were

451
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: kind of we knew we.

452
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: Wanted to have children, just like I always want to

453
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: have children. He wanted.

454
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: He grew up in a two kid households the same

455
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: as me, so we both knew we wanted at least

456
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 2: two kids. And that's that wasn't even anything I was

457
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: thinking about. When I finally did find my amazing doctor,

458
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 2: doctor ty Elia Body, she's also the Ford in my book.

459
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 3: She was like, what are you feeling? Okay?

460
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: The way okay, and then she goes into like a

461
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: series of questions afterwards. She's like, are your periods? And

462
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: I was like, what about them? I tell her how

463
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: how is your hair? And I'm like, what, ma'am, she's

464
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: the extra hair, how's the extrication and Cuban girl?

465
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 3: But sure right, she started asking me whole bunch of questions.

466
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: Are you experiencing any hair loss, hair gain, menstrual cycles,

467
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: skin issues? And I'm like yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, okay,

468
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: and then she's just like scribbling and then she's like

469
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: you unfortunately, you know, I want to let you know

470
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: that you have PCOS and what She's like polycistico varian syndrome.

471
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: And I was like, what is that?

472
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: I was like, what is that? This sounds so scary.

473
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: So you hadn't even heard of it at.

474
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: Never, So she had to sit there and explain it

475
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: to me. She had a whole notepad and she was

476
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: talking about how my sugar and the insulin gets processed

477
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 2: differently in my.

478
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: Body because of the POS.

479
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: So for those people who don't know, let me jump

480
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: in really quick, just give a couple facts sincetat since

481
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: I know that they look forward to, you know, the

482
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: real real about it. Polycystic ovarian syndrome is a chronic

483
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: hormonal condition that affects women of reproductive age.

484
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: So that's a box you checked right.

485
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Affects about ten percent of women, or around five million

486
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: American women of child marring age. Black women are underdiagnosed

487
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: and disproportionately affected by pcos. This could be due to

488
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: lack of research and Black women being treated differently within

489
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: the healthcare system. And pcos can cause hormonal imbalances, irregular periods,

490
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: excess androgen levels, and cysts in the ovaries. Other symptoms

491
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: include acne, excess, facial embody here, weight gain, and thinning here,

492
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: which is crazy remission. But then you sprout here in

493
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: places that you wouldn't think that you want it, right

494
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: of course, unxiu, I gotcha. So then also here I see.

495
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: Pcos can increase the risk of type two diabetes, heart disease,

496
00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: ovarian cysts, obesity, and the most common is ovulatory and fertility.

497
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: Which means yes, it's the number one reason for infertility.

498
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: Wow.

499
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: So, realizing now you had this, the doctor tells you,

500
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: you go on a whirlwind of like, okay, what is this?

501
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Does she walk you through the necessary changes that need

502
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: to be made to kind of get this under control.

503
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Do you feel a sense of like hopelessness or do

504
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: you feel a sense of I'm going to figure this out.

505
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: You know, what was it like when you told Omar

506
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: take me through that process.

507
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: I broke down in the room because I felt a

508
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: sense of relief that I was actually being seen, being heard.

509
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I was newly engaged. So

510
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: you're telling me that this is the number one reason

511
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: for infertility, and I'm going to walking into a new

512
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: phase of my life where this is where we want

513
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: to go. So I was just like, I don't know

514
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: how to explain it, but that feeling I was just felt.

515
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: Super alone and happy that I could.

516
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: Take the next step to get to where I'm trying

517
00:24:59,760 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 2: to be.

518
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: I can imagine that feeling because I actually felt that

519
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: feeling now that I think about it, back to my

520
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: story time, right, it's knowing something's off, not really knowing

521
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: what it is. Then. Of course, you know, our guys,

522
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 1: if Omar is anything like de Vo, which I think

523
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: there are a lot of like very optimistic and like, Babe,

524
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's fine.

525
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're just stressing.

526
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: It's going to happen, and then you sit with the

527
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: doctor and then they find out what the issue is.

528
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: So I get that mix of emotion where there's a

529
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: sense of relief, but then there's also the sense of Okay,

530
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: what's next, yea, and how did you change that?

531
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: We had too?

532
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: I got myself together, I asked her all the questions.

533
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: She gave me medication to take as the next step.

534
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: She prescribed me medication met Foreman and ozempic ozmpic for

535
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: the weight, met Foreman for my insulin, and I did

536
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: what she told me to do. And this was before

537
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 2: ozmpic was a thing.

538
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, I want to touch on that because

539
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: I saw you got some backlash from people when you

540
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 1: mentioned and that you had to use those zmpigs as

541
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: part of the process.

542
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: And I don't even see it as backlash because it's genuinely, guys,

543
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: this was before anybody knew anything. Doctor tells me to

544
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: take medication, I'm gonna take it. I'm having a problem

545
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: with my weight, and I honestly would do it again.

546
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: Why because it's it was a band aid for what

547
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: I needed at the time. I didn't know better, and

548
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: I would tell anyone listen. I'm on the holistic side now.

549
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm more on the natural side now. But if I

550
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: ever needed to and wanted to, if I want to

551
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: hop it back on the medication, I can, and I will,

552
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna make anybody feel bad for doing it.

553
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: Ye.

554
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: We women with pcos have an issue with losing weight,

555
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: just like people with obesity or different or diabetes or

556
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: different kinds of things that cannot we can't control. So

557
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to the medication, I'm so thankful that

558
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 2: she did what she was taught to do, which is

559
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: to give medication to her patients that are asking for it,

560
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: because I didn't know what it was, and I actually

561
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: was so thankful.

562
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: Mm hm.

563
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: You know what the backlash portion of it, because I

564
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: noticed when you posted about it, people were just like, oh,

565
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: that's what she did. And I know, do you promote,

566
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, a vegan lifestyle and you promote the holistic way.

567
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: But I think the negative connotation that has now come

568
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: from people abusing the medication for you know, reasons that

569
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: are more vanity than they are health. That's why it

570
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: has the bad rap that it has. But I love

571
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: that you're standing in your decision that eventually got you.

572
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: It was a short phase or a short stint to

573
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: get you to the next side. So how long were

574
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: you on that medification before you then decided to I.

575
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: Was on it for about six to eight months. I

576
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: remember going back in there and being like, doctor, when

577
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: is this thing over? Because I really I'm really enjoying this,

578
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: Like this is really really good.

579
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

580
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't until I kind of was just slowing down

581
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: on it and I was like, okay, So like what

582
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: happens next, Like, yeah, what's the cure?

583
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: I need the cure?

584
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the band aid, not noting the temporary fixation

585
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: of like no, but.

586
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: He has an answer for me when it comes to that,

587
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: really there's no cure. Doctors tell me there's no cure,

588
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: and me and my man, we don't do that, right,

589
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: You're not gonna tell me.

590
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: We're not gonna play that.

591
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna rebuke that that there is no cure,

592
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go and do it my research. Because

593
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of information about pcos out there.

594
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: I had to do so much research. I had to

595
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: ask a whole bunch of people, I had to join associations,

596
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: I had to do all the things to kind of

597
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: make sure that when we are ready to have a

598
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: baby that this was going to be the most seamless

599
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: process ever.

600
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: So what did we do.

601
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: We stopped medication cold Turkey, We went to a completely

602
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: different We detalked.

603
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: We detalked everything, good people.

604
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: Music, We listened to Hey, all of it and it

605
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: was so deep.

606
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: We did it for an entire year.

607
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Wow, the things that we were eating. We went over

608
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: to doctor Sebby's village in Honduras and is that.

609
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Where you went when you were in Yeah? I did

610
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: notice that you were on vacation there and there was

611
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: like a drink that he wanted.

612
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Omar's like, do you want this or not? Yeah?

613
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: That was so hard.

614
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: We went plant based before we got there because we

615
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 2: knew it was only going to be plants. So we

616
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: started on Tuesdays and Thursdays, right, just doing plant bail,

617
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: being more vegan rather than plant based. So now we're

618
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: more on the plant based side, right, We are plant based, yes.

619
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: But the vegan.

620
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Then we went we did that on Tuesdays and Thursdays, Okay,

621
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: and then we knew that we were going to be

622
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: there for a while, so we're like we don't want

623
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: to kill ourselves, so let's prepare ourselves. Let's start a

624
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: little bit of detoxing. And we don't know what that

625
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: even means, Like, we don't even know what that means.

626
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: We know we're going to clean up our acts with

627
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: the food, and I don't know, just maybe not listen

628
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: to crazy.

629
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill your music.

630
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Okay, let me start there people, music, food, environment.

631
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: And and we're outs more, more meditation, more sound healing

632
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: things like that.

633
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: We get over there and.

634
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: We were like, ha, you want us to take these

635
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: herbs every two hours in the morning food, no food

636
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: after lunchtime.

637
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh, so there was a strict regimen and they were.

638
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: On a very strict regiment with certain herbs, the bidders

639
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: that was twice a day. That would kill me. And

640
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: the plant based alkaline foods, which we had learned about

641
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: alkaline there. We had no idea what alkaline.

642
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: Food was before. That's the difference between being vegan.

643
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: Processed things like that and do the all natural, whole

644
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: foods that are going to help your body regenerate to

645
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: then be able.

646
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: To fix it right on a cellular level, yes, exactly.

647
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: And women people go there for everything obviously not just

648
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: PCOS and what Omar was dealing with with inflammation and

649
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: snees and things like that.

650
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: That helped ruin his career.

651
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: So that was collective for you to it was and

652
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: just your PCOS.

653
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it was the reason why we went.

654
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: But then he got so much out of it that

655
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: he didn't even realize too, So it was actually a

656
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: beautiful thing.

657
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: And you can do it together because you're in one household.

658
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: You're cooking the same meals that we're both going to eat.

659
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: It's not like one person has one regiment and another.

660
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: It's collective, and.

661
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: We want to be the healthiest versions of ourselves. Played

662
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: football for a very long time, and he his whole

663
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: entire career was ended due to an injury. So he's

664
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: been obsessed with trying to heal his body properly to

665
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: be able. He's had surgeries and all the things, you

666
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So we're we've always been on

667
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: the same like, let's be the best versions of ourselves

668
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: so that we can live longer, so we could.

669
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: Be literally what you know, Deval and I have been

670
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: doing more recently. Do you mind sharing how.

671
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: Old you are? I'm thirty five. Thirty five.

672
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm forty. I was wondering how much older

673
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: you were. So you go to Honduras, you do the

674
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: whole doctor Sabi program, Yes, you come back.

675
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: How did your body feel after that?

676
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Did you feel like a difference, what was your what

677
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: was your diet to track, like where you're pooping regularly

678
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: like we want to great?

679
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: No, it was it was a difference you felt. I

680
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: felt so light, a lot more energy. No coffee.

681
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm not drinking coffee, but all of a sudden, I

682
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: have energy now that I'm drinking spring water and taking.

683
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: My herbs like it. It's crazy. And no more coffee.

684
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: That was another thing I had to switch because I

685
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: thought I was doing something with that. But yeah, so

686
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: many things. Coffee. Yeah, I don't drink coffe anymore, I

687
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: know from.

688
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: A health standpoint, or just taste, because I like coffee

689
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: for taste.

690
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: No, I was I'm wondering, is it more just from

691
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: a health standpoint?

692
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: You're just like, it's just anything that's going to give

693
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: you an energy and then bring you down. It's like

694
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to regulate everything. Okay, granted I'm trying to

695
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: just regulate my energy, but you know, anything that brings

696
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: you up to bring you down. And then also it's like, okay,

697
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: then the coffee it comes for me, it came with

698
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: a milk substitute, and then it came.

699
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: With a little bit of sugar on the side. And

700
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: then and the sugar.

701
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: Is the problem about the gitting right here, I got you.

702
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you walking at I'm gonna get you right,

703
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you right.

704
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Okatus is talking to me, I got you.

705
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: And anyways, if that's what gives you energy. And by

706
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: the way, there's nothing wrong with coffee. You can have

707
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: a coffee a day.

708
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: Okay. I was doing like three a day. I was

709
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: doing the most. You were doing the most. So then

710
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: because I always felt like I was ready to go

711
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: to rehearsal, I had it takes some coffee, Yes, yes,

712
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: So we went to doctor Tubby's had an incredible, incredibly

713
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: devastating time.

714
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 2: It was it was, it was, it was tough. We

715
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: were out on the steak, y'all, like we there was

716
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: and you're living in this like hut and there was

717
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: really nothing to do there other than cure yourself. And

718
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: we didn't realize how exhausting. Healing yourself from within could

719
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: be Well.

720
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: Think about how exhausting it is to just exist in

721
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: America in this space that we live in. It's like

722
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: a matrix of of people and things and stimulation and

723
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: phones and social media and all of that. So I

724
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: can imagine going to a space like that. It's like

725
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: a complete one eighty from living your regular day to

726
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: day life, but it also has a struggle within healing yourself.

727
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was a it was a wild experience.

728
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: We brought our videographer with us. He is absolutely the

729
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: opposite of us when it comes to eating. He was

730
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: having the hardest time even going into the water. There's

731
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: a pool there and it has spring water that comes

732
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: from the mountains that are close by. It's self heated

733
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: because on the rock somehow actually was a natural springs. Yes,

734
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: And he would go in the water and like come

735
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: out and have a complete headache. You couldn't like he

736
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: was feeling so sick because his body was just like

737
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: the steam room there too was really dope because the

738
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: steam was they would put natural eucalyptus leaves in there,

739
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: like the real naturally.

740
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: I love this kind of stuff.

741
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: I love it I'm over here, like so change, because

742
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: that's literally what Daval and I are on, like a

743
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: movement towards oh my gosh, healing, detaxing, doing what's best

744
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: for our bodies.

745
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like it could be done anywhere.

746
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: I don't feel like you need to go to that

747
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: specific place.

748
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

749
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: I don't now that I've learned. I think the herbs

750
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: were what we took from that was learning the herbs

751
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: and like what how powerful herbs can be, how powerful

752
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 2: spring water can be, and the alkaline foods. I feel

753
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: like that is what kind of we took from that,

754
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: and we've put it into our everyday lives and I

755
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: feel like that has been the change for us that

756
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: we needed. I also was in the middle of writing

757
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: the book, right, the PCOS book.

758
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh so you started your book prior to this, Yes, because.

759
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: I was learning. It wasn't even for people. It was

760
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: more like a journal journal.

761
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: It was a journal and just jotting things down and

762
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: writing all the information and if it did go out

763
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: to people, if I could help somebody one day, I

764
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: don't want to have to talk about all the time.

765
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: Here's the book that I put together.

766
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Here's the guide the guide that I put together, Yes,

767
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 2: and came back and I was like, I gotta switch

768
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: a lot of these recipes up. I've got to switch

769
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: up everything. Actually I didn't know what I was talking about.

770
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 2: I need to actually change everything. So that extent in

771
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: this whole process with the book, I've been putting information

772
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: for a very long time.

773
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: And the alkaline foods.

774
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: What happens with the alkaline foods really quick, not to

775
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: get nerdy, it's a pH level. All the foods have

776
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: a pH level. Everything has a number from like one

777
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: to fourteen, and you want to be at the highest.

778
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: So you know, you seem some water sometimes and it's.

779
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's on a three from the scale of

780
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: like one two.

781
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like and then it's like a nine points

782
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: something water And you know what I mean.

783
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: That's the pH level.

784
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: And certain foods are higher in the pH potential hydrogen,

785
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: and then some are lower closer to acidic. So you

786
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: do not want to be closer to the aesthetic because

787
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: when you have more of the foods on the higher

788
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: part of scale, it helps your body regenerate. So you're

789
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: giving your body whole foods that it can take your

790
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: body naturally wants to regenerate. I tell this thing all

791
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: the time. Whenever you cut yourself, your skin naturally heals itself.

792
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: Your skin wants to do that. Your skin wants to regenerate.

793
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: When you give your body the foods to be able

794
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: to do that, your cells connect quicker and easier, and

795
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: then you hope your body regenerates. So with that mind

796
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: frame going into everything that we put in our in

797
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: our bodies back at the house, when we got home,

798
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: it started everything started kind of coming together, one one

799
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: thing at a time.

800
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: Like, so, how soon after your trip, now implementing the

801
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: things that you've learned on your trip, did you guys

802
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: conceive what was that timeline?

803
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: It was a year, a full year, a full year

804
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: afore we.

805
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: Went over there, learned everything came back home. Was on

806
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: the bidders taking shots every morning, which was the hardest

807
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: part for me and the bidders is just like fermented herbs.

808
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: So you pretty much find out you're pregnant, and what's

809
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: that like, you know, finding out that you're successfully pregnant

810
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: now also maintaining it.

811
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: Took so it took a year. We did it. One

812
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: time we gave each other a high five.

813
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: Like we did it, Ah, that works, and it didn't

814
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: work that month, So then we tried the next time

815
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: I see it and it happened. So it was technically

816
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: quick fast, but we did a whole year of completely detoxing.

817
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: Yes, And what was the question after that?

818
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: No, I was I was saying next, So now that

819
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: you're pregnant, did you maintain like this plant based lifestyle

820
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: now that you're finally pregnant? Because some people may cure

821
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: themselves to the point where they get what they want

822
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: out of it, which is essentially, you know, conception, but

823
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: then may start to kind of backslide and fall back

824
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: into bad habits. So how important was it for you

825
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: and your husband? I know that Omar has been very

826
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: supportive of your journey as well. I've seen his videos

827
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: too where he's like looking for fruit with seeds.

828
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: In it then cracking open a watermelon that had the

829
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: black seeds atime.

830
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: So you now being pregnant, how important was it for

831
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: you to continue this journey through pregnancy and then now postpartum.

832
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: Because it's so interesting, said.

833
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Too that Ocean is going to be a whole plant

834
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: based baby.

835
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, she is a plant based baby.

836
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: I got pregnant and all of my knowledge completely went

837
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: out the window due to the fact that I was

838
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: so hungry.

839
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 3: I was raving everything.

840
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: And when I tell you, so, I attacked the skin.

841
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: With going to a skin specialists.

842
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: I got my menstrual cycle back to normal somehow, I

843
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: think by the food that we were eating. So I

844
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: kind of just like funneled in every single symptom that

845
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: I was having with a specialist. So I was That's

846
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: how I was kind of getting everything together, okay, And

847
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: then when I finally did get pregnant, Yeah, I mean

848
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: I was just like, whatever's gonna happen right now is

849
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: about to happen. I want to stay plant based. And

850
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: this is a conversation that Omar and I did have

851
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: because that's what he expected of me too, because we

852
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: worked so hard to get here.

853
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: Now we're finally pregnant.

854
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Listen, these accountability partners that we have in husbands, Oh

855
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: my goodness. It's also I think their football background now

856
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: they're used to being so disciplined.

857
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: It's what it is.

858
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: And the accountability, like the valor is always like the

859
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: eye in the sky doesn't last.

860
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: Well, who said your eye is the eye my god?

861
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: Get away? You know what I'm saying, let me, I

862
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: would not be seeing the same thing.

863
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: I would drive through the drive through. This is real

864
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: pregnancy talk. Fifth or six month like left set. One

865
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: day I drove through a drive through it for fast.

866
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: Ooh baby, gave me the big man.

867
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: I ate that in the car. I didn't want to

868
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: tell him nothing. I was so embarrassed of myself guilty.

869
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: I felt so guilty. But then at the same time,

870
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: I had a chicken sandwich.

871
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, a stummer. Okay, yeah, I get it. I've been there.

872
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: I haven't had that in years, like forget the whole detox.

873
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: Like even before that, I felt crazy, But you lived

874
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: to see another day. I did, and guess what we

875
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: got through it? You did Listen.

876
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: One thing about me is a balance, like I'm here

877
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: for the balance. I wanted to be plant based. And

878
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: it was a conversation that Omar had with me, and

879
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: he's like, I hear you with your cravings. We've never

880
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: been pregnant before, meaning you, I've never been pregnant before.

881
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to expect, how to eat, and

882
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: all the things I know I wanted to violent, and

883
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: then all the things that I like to do, like

884
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: steam room, and go into the jacuzzie and like things

885
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: that I'd like to do I couldn't do anymore. Regardless,

886
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: I'm a pregnant woman and I got my cravings and

887
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: I need to handle it. And he was like, I

888
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: hear you, but our child is in your belly.

889
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: And we got.

890
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: To this place where we've done everything the good way,

891
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: the natural way, and you're giving everything you're eating and

892
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: giving it to our child. I don't know how I

893
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: feel about her having hormones extra hormones from animal products

894
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: in your body.

895
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: So this was a thing because I wish it man

896
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: would splain to me what it's like to be pregnant.

897
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: Yes, normally the struggle that we have.

898
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: It was something that we had to It was not

899
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: an argument, but it was definitely like I'm like, right, sir,

900
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 2: I have a craving.

901
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you, right.

902
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: And then him is like, you're giving our child things

903
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: that we don't eat, right. So we had to actually

904
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: talk to like outside parties because it was one of

905
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: those things I get it, yeah, And it came down

906
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: to when she's here, we want to make sure like

907
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: when she's physically here on earth, like after we birth her.

908
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, give her the vegetables. I'm not mean.

909
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't have to alter my life anymore.

910
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: What's your breastfeeding? So is it still clocking like what

911
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: you eat since your breastfeeding?

912
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: No, because we know the percentage just way lower that

913
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: she's receiving.

914
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: And also I'm eating cleaner. You know I still eat.

915
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: I'm not completely one way or the other. I eat

916
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: what I want to eat, but I know you're mine.

917
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: Now.

918
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm very mindful now I enjoy eating healthier foods because

919
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: I know it's going to make me feel. Like before

920
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: it was just like you eat chicken, or you eat meat,

921
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: or you eat but processed foods because that's what I want.

922
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: And if I didn't think.

923
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: About what it was doing, especially being her Carabian descent,

924
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: like give me to acale, give me a rice and peas,

925
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: give me a curry chicken, give me to go, give

926
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: me all the things.

927
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: Everything right and eat it all, don't leave without exactly.

928
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Or if you go to a rest of West Indian

929
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: restaurant and they give you like a pound of rice

930
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: and peas and then like a small portion of the

931
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: meat and veggies, it's like, let's switch it around. Let

932
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: me get more veggie. It's a little more meat, you

933
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

934
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: Make it even. But then I get the struggle exactly exactly.

935
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: I get the struggle. But the balance is key.

936
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: The balance is key, And now I know better. So

937
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 2: now that I know better, I do better. And as

938
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: for Ocean, because you said how we were raised, it

939
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: was a different way. Now that we know better. Now, Ocean,

940
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna want avocado.

941
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: The first thing we gave it was avocado, and I mean, hey,

942
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: she loved it. She loved it.

943
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: She was a little bit annoyed with the apple sauce

944
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: that we made it straight from apple, like actual apple.

945
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, babies are funny about texture at that age too. Yes,

946
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: But to your point, as a parent, when you start

947
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: to implement these changes in your household, then the children

948
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: naturally will start to pick it up. Daval And I again,

949
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: prime example of eating all the things that we were

950
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: raised on. My parents live with us. So when I

951
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: start to cut certain things out, my mom is like, well,

952
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: we've always bought this brand of this, but why is

953
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: this bad all of a sudden? But why can't I

954
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: get the boys gatorade? And I'm like, mom, because we're

955
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: not drinking that and doing it anymore. I said, back then,

956
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: it might have been okay because there weren't all the

957
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: additives different now is that know? But now we're in

958
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: a space where we know better. So I'm starting to

959
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: slowly remove things from the house. And Jackson sometimes will

960
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: stand in the pantry and he'd be.

961
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: Like, dang, this is boring. Ain't nothing those snacks are here.

962
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: But then Deval is on a syebowl kick with all

963
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: these fruits and everything. And now it's like we're ordering

964
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: a sye ball for each kid, all right because let

965
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: and they're just like, we want to sell it too,

966
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, it's what they're seeing, it's what

967
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: they're saying, and they're enjoying it because they're not missing

968
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: the things that they used to have because it's like

969
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: their taste buds essentially are changing.

970
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: And I love that for us.

971
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: And you're leading them to that healthier lifestyle. The parents

972
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: they were just doing what they they were taught to do. Absolutely,

973
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: they were doing their best. And now a lot of

974
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: the things have more additives than back then, so the products.

975
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: Are not the same.

976
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: That Gatorade is not the same, right, Okay, it's just

977
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: not it's just not so. And I feel like bringing

978
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: ocean in now knowing the things that we do know

979
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: mm hm. We follow a lot of people on social

980
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: media as well that they're raising very strong, plant based babies.

981
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: Like when people found out that I was pregnant and

982
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: they thought I was plant based because we were making

983
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: plant based foods at the house, which that's all we

984
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: do at the house.

985
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: It's only plant based foods.

986
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: They were coming for me like that baby's gonna be malndnourished, right,

987
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: and it's like watch.

988
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: Watch right, She'll be fine. And you know, we should

989
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: be also allowing people to raise their children the way

990
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: they see fit.

991
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's fine that we don't do everything the same. Guys, Like,

992
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: it's okay, and she is so healthy, but she's healthy,

993
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: she's beautiful. God, mom is beautiful. Dad is healthy. Like

994
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: I just love that for you guys. Wow, we what

995
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: a great.

996
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Convo about this PCOS life and overcoming it. Yes, I

997
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: guess as we wrap up this segment, what's been your

998
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: most surprising thing about motherhood so far?

999
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: That's such a deep loaded question.

1000
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, as we wrap up the conversation, it's a

1001
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: whole thing.

1002
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: It's the most surprising part. Honestly, it's like the breastfeeding journey.

1003
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: No one talks about that, talks about it. I was

1004
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: legit like when people were like, are you gonna best feed,

1005
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, for sure about a year and yeah,

1006
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: kind of just duh, Like don't you know me.

1007
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: We're plant bates. Yeah, we're plant bates. We do everything

1008
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: really natural.

1009
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna come naturally.

1010
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna come. It's just gonna flow.

1011
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: And then it don't, and then it don't, and then

1012
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: your right titty is the only one that's producing the milk.

1013
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: There's always the slacker boob. Is it your right that's

1014
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: a slacker. No, my left is a slacker. My left

1015
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: was a slacker. Dude, Right, what is it powerful boob? Yeah?

1016
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 3: Is it because we're right handed? Are your right handed?

1017
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: I am?

1018
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what it is. I don't know

1019
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: if this is too much information, but the never too

1020
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: much stimulation. The nibble stimulation on the right side has

1021
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: always been a little bit more.

1022
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: And I don't know if we would want to say

1023
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: about the I don't.

1024
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: Know, because definitely, like you know, when you have that

1025
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: like suction, whether it's a man or a baby. Hey,

1026
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean it stimulates a different level of production. Yeah right,

1027
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: So do you think you've got to handle on it now?

1028
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm still in the trenches, Yeah for sure, but I

1029
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: definitely have. I feel like I've gained some more thick skin,

1030
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, first of all.

1031
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: Literally thin skin. I gave it bost when they get tougher. Yeah, literally,

1032
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: that's easier, right.

1033
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: And I also gave birth like if you can give birth,

1034
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: and I gave birth naturally, And like.

1035
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: You sure did I watch the block?

1036
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: Did you?

1037
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: I did watch it. That was a timatic. It was

1038
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: very dramatic. That was the time. It was very she

1039
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 3: just was not trying to she.

1040
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: Wasn't trying to come out, and you know, the doctor

1041
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: midway leaving and then us being blessed with a black

1042
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: doctor that came in and she came in and she

1043
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: just was like give us.

1044
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: All the affirmation. And I was really just trying to

1045
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 3: have this baby naturally.

1046
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I was.

1047
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: I was trying so hard as far as naturally meaning

1048
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: with no drugs and vaginaginally.

1049
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, after that, both the forty eight hours tell them,

1050
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: I know, but yeah, after the forty eight hour mark.

1051
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: I just couldn't take it anymore because she wasn't ready

1052
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: because I was induced improperly.

1053
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: Yes, in there too that that was the traumatic birth experience, Jackson.

1054
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: I was induced for reasons that I had. I believe

1055
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: protein or elevated enzymes in my liver, so it was necessary.

1056
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: But you know, when your body doesn't do what it's

1057
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: naturally supposed to do. With my last three, I naturally

1058
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: water broke. Had the baby's safe and home dream was

1059
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: body just bounced right back.

1060
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: I wanted it to be that so bad. I didn't

1061
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: even feel right going into the doctor. But she had

1062
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: mentioned that my placenta looked a little bit older, and

1063
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: that apparently came out to be not true. She just

1064
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: wanted me to have the baby while she was in

1065
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: town before she went out of town to spring BA.

1066
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: So that's why it's annoying.

1067
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Not putting an old ass placenta on you, because she

1068
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: had planned.

1069
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: Honey, my placenta came out good. The other doctor was like,

1070
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: do you want it?

1071
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, cool, send it off, Let's make some pills

1072
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: out of it, and let's do whatever we want to

1073
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: do with it. But it's she was like, it's completely fine.

1074
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: We took it to a specialist. They're like, this is

1075
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: a perfectly healthy, healthy placenta.

1076
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: So I was like, it wasn't.

1077
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: A geriatric placentum like adolescent fresh adults, you know, young

1078
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: with for snapper.

1079
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: Young snapper, giving her all the protein and nutrient she needed,

1080
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: all the things. And because I was induced, therefore she

1081
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: wasn't ready to come out, and that's why it took

1082
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: me forty hours.

1083
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: I was like, at one point I just let go,

1084
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: let God.

1085
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm not going to judge myself. No,

1086
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna let mysel get the medication. And boy when

1087
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: that medication.

1088
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: Hit, boy, this is so nice in here. So this

1089
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: is great this hospital.

1090
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: And so the whole process after that, I did push

1091
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: her out vaginally.

1092
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: It did not take long at all.

1093
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 2: The doctor was like, you must be a performers.

1094
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: The core the deep corn was like for years.

1095
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: So it was here, Yeah, she's here. I love it.

1096
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, So for anybody that is pregnant or wants

1097
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: to be pregnant, or it has had a million babies

1098
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: and you know, just wants any extra input from me,

1099
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: let me tell you something. This breastfeeding life is no joke.

1100
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 2: I'm only about five months in and I'm so proud

1101
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: of myself because I didn't know how long I could.

1102
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: It's still waking up in the middle of the night

1103
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: and still having a pump pump, I'm still doing that.

1104
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

1105
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've joked, but it's very serious that once you

1106
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: become a mom, like being tired is like something that

1107
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: happens in perpetuity, like you're never going to get enough sleep.

1108
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: It's just what it is.

1109
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: When you get used to the being tired, that's when

1110
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: you overcome. I think that's what I mean by just

1111
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: getting thick skin, because it's like I'm not phased by

1112
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: being tired.

1113
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: I'll get over it, yeah, but but never really do though.

1114
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're worried about breastfeeding, Now there's gonna be something

1115
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: else that you're gonna be worried about it Like your

1116
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: brain just never shoved off. I'm already worried about my

1117
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: children being adults and they're not there yet, so worried

1118
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: about and that moms just tend to have.

1119
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got crazy like anxiety with thinking that things

1120
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: would go wrong right, like I'm going to work, I'm

1121
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: going to break her little arm when lifting her up,

1122
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: like the craziest mom.

1123
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: Anxiety that I've never had.

1124
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: There, So the most surprising thing to answer your question

1125
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: has been the breastfeeding process and really just needing help

1126
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: from family and friends, like calling on the village.

1127
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 3: Well, I love that for you. I love that you

1128
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: have a village nearby.

1129
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: That you can call on the best, that you and

1130
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: your husband Omar have been doing a phenomenal job from

1131
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: what I can see so far, and just being so

1132
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: invested in your wellness and in yourself and in your daughter,

1133
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: but even more importantly sharing your PCOS journey through your

1134
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: book over here, Living with PCOS The Road to Recovery.

1135
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 3: I love that so much for you.

1136
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: If you have issues with PCOS, if you have not

1137
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: been diagnosed, if you suspect that you may be living

1138
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: with PCOS, there's answers.

1139
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love that.

1140
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: Candice has put that in a book that has recipes,

1141
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: what else does it happens?

1142
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: Work out guide recipes, all the things to take out

1143
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: of your pantry, and just from different specialists. I got

1144
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 2: different scientists in there, different specialists in there to give

1145
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: all the information for anybody that has PCOS.

1146
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: Also, and where can people find the book PCOS with

1147
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: Candace dot Com. Oh, that's easy.

1148
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: We can remember that PCOS with Candace dot Com. And

1149
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: where can folks find you? If they want to follow

1150
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: more of your beautiful family and more of your journey,

1151
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: tell them where they can find you.

1152
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: They can find me at Candace. That's it. That's the

1153
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 3: A and dic. You got that name? I did? I did?

1154
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: Like what were you on the first Like? Were you

1155
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: the first Instagram subscarber? Because there's so many canvases in

1156
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: the world. I fact that you just got Candace alone.

1157
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: Never give that up.

1158
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I got lucky one time then pulled it

1159
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: over to every.

1160
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: Single other app. That's all I can say. You're not

1161
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 3: a gambler, Like, I'm not going to try anything else.

1162
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: It worked, It worked, I worked for you.

1163
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for sitting with me, Candas.

1164
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: I feel like eventually you can come back for another

1165
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: episode with me where we can talk something else, because

1166
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: there's like so many parts of.

1167
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: Your life with it that we have not touched.

1168
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: All Right, let's take a quick break having such an

1169
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: awesome conversation with Candace, and we will be back with

1170
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: a quick listener letter.

1171
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: Stay tuned.

1172
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: All right, y'all were back, and Candace was just talking

1173
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: about like that's it.

1174
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: That's like, I feel like that's just a girl.

1175
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: I could talk to you for hours and hours and hours.

1176
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: I could wow And yeah, I got karaoke part too.

1177
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: Brestmolk showers at the period for your.

1178
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: Man though period, I got you been there with the

1179
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: breast milk showers.

1180
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: Okay, she's like been there.

1181
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: Okay, that's reserved for.

1182
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: Them double loaf.

1183
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump in really quick to a quick

1184
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: listener letter.

1185
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 3: I'm Candace.

1186
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully you can give a couple of words of advice

1187
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: because typically people write in with something that they're struggling

1188
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: with or they want some to Here are two cents,

1189
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, so well we'll listen now, all right. I've

1190
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: been with my now fiance for four years. We have

1191
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: three children from a previous relationship and he has two

1192
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: from his previous marriage. We both decided that we want

1193
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: a baby together. In the process of trying, we found

1194
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: out that I have PCOS. This causes weight gain, leads

1195
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: the diabetes, and causes infertility. Not to mention, I suffer

1196
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: from Hashimoto disease, which means my thyroid does not produce

1197
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: enough hormones. Although I have all this going on, I

1198
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: managed to get pregnant, but unfortunately had a miscarriage.

1199
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 3: I'm sorry about that.

1200
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven years old, which means my pregnancy should

1201
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: be considered geriatric. They did tell me that, and I

1202
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: was like, don't disrespect me with this cheriatric term. Don't

1203
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: be labeling me.

1204
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: So I understand.

1205
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: I diet and exercise to keep the process of conceiving,

1206
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: to help the process of conceiving. Rather. I watched After Shock,

1207
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Thank you Kudine for a shining light on this subject,

1208
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: and was in tears through the entire movie.

1209
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 3: I understand I was two girl.

1210
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: I was aware of mortality rate, but not aware of

1211
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: how high the rate was. Watching this movie really opened

1212
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: my eyes and gave me a real wake up call.

1213
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: These women had. These women had no pre existing.

1214
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Condition, trusted their life and their children's lives in the

1215
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 1: hands of people who were supposed to care for them

1216
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: throughout their journey. My fear is I get over everything

1217
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: I personally have going on with my body, become pregnant.

1218
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: My baby doesn't get to enjoy me, while at the

1219
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: same time, the love of my life and my children

1220
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: suffer from the loss of me because of negligence. Although

1221
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: God got me, he only helps those who help themselves.

1222
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: How can I get over this fear of something I

1223
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: cannot control? Please help? Have you experienced any pregnancy losses ever?

1224
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: No?

1225
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: No, I've been on calls and because of the PCOS

1226
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: association while I was pregnant, I was having the same

1227
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: kind of fears because I was on calls with women

1228
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: that had PCOS and they were dealing with different things.

1229
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: There was actually one lady that was on the call

1230
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: that day she said, excuse me, hold on until the restroom.

1231
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Came back on the call my jon secretly pregnant, and

1232
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: she was like, I just lost I just lost my baby,

1233
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: and I don't know what to do. I'm bleeding, I

1234
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: gotta like kind of got to go. So it was

1235
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: very firsthand with women that are going through it. So

1236
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: I personally haven't, but it was definitely a fear of mine,

1237
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: and I could see how because of all the things

1238
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: that women with PCOS, all the things that we have

1239
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: to go through, So it was definitely a thought and

1240
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: had to think kind of an advance if it does happen, Yes,

1241
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: I think.

1242
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: We always have.

1243
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: Of course, I suffered from a miscarriage between my third

1244
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: and fourth son, and I was never diagnosed with PCOS.

1245
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: And for the for the most part, I would say

1246
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: had pretty textbook pregnancies and conceived fairly easily, with the

1247
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: exception of before Cairo.

1248
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: But and it's while that it was between your third

1249
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: and the fourth, like who.

1250
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: Would have thought, right, But they do say one in

1251
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: four pregnancies normally end in some sort of miscarriage. And

1252
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: it can be in a ray of things. It can

1253
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: just be that, you know, chromosonally, the baby is not

1254
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: you know, up to par there's like things that your

1255
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: body does naturally when that fetus or at the time

1256
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: it's only just maybe in zygote, you know, they're just

1257
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: not prepared to make the journey. So it doesn't take

1258
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: away from the loss or the hurt that you feel

1259
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: once you get that news or you know, like for me,

1260
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: I went to the doctor and was having some spotting,

1261
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: heard the heartbeat. They told me it was a viable pregnancy.

1262
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: Deval was away filming. I was back in California with

1263
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: our boys, and I told the story on a podcast

1264
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: with my friend Crystal that they told me it was

1265
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: a viable pregnancy to go home and just rest for

1266
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: a little bit bit of bedrist went home, felt some cramping.

1267
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: I was on FaceTime with de Val, went to the

1268
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: bathroom and pulled my underway down and it was literally

1269
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: like everything He's on FaceTime on the floor in the

1270
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: bathroom and miscarried that baby. Of course, was devastated. He's

1271
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, I'm in California. And then outside my door

1272
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: where my boys knocking, like, Mom, are we gonna make

1273
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: pizza now? Because we were supposed to make pizza for dinner.

1274
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: You know what mom does. Mom cleans everything up and

1275
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: gets to it, wipes her tears and gets to making pizza.

1276
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1277
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: But it's the duality of existing in this space of

1278
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: being great that you have children, but then also knowing

1279
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: what could have been.

1280
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 3: Two things could be true at once at the same time.

1281
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: This is his name for that. What is that called

1282
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: divine dichotomy? I believe, I think, yeah, yeah, So to

1283
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: speak directly to this listener letter, I do believe that

1284
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: there's the power in what you think. Is a power

1285
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: in what you believe. There's a power in what you affirm.

1286
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: There's a power in what you manifest, is a power

1287
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: in what you pray for, and I think consuming yourself

1288
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: with the fear that's not of God right to consume

1289
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: yourself with the fear of something going wrong. Once you

1290
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: can release yourself of that fear and exist in the

1291
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: space of gratitude, positivity, praying and hoping for the best,

1292
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: doing the things that are within your control and.

1293
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: Your body.

1294
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: Even though it's the diet, make sure it's the right diet,

1295
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: like things like that, little things like the alkaline foods,

1296
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: rather than just going and completely cutting out meat. It's

1297
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: like deeper than that, the process foods, things like that,

1298
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: trying trying different things and staying positive. The tongue is

1299
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: so so or or, and do not rebuke it. Absolutely

1300
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: rebuke it.

1301
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: You have to sis rebuke it, rebuke it, prey on it,

1302
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: think positively, and get Candace's book if you're struggling with PCOS.

1303
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: Ultimately that will give you a little bit more insight

1304
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: into how you can take control of this syndrome.

1305
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: So I know, I know you.

1306
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: Said there's support groups out there, there's associations, So maybe

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Speaker 1: doing the work to find those things the same way

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Speaker 1: you found that documentary, which I know aftershot can be

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Speaker 1: very very hard to watch, but it is the reality.

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Speaker 1: So I do believe that once you are aware and

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Speaker 1: you have done your research and you know better, we

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Speaker 1: tend to make the steps towards doing better. So all

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Speaker 1: the best to you and your family. Appreciate you writing in,

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Speaker 1: and if you want to be on our listener letters,

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Speaker 1: be sure to email us at dead as Advice at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. So to wrap things up, we normally

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Speaker 1: devour I would do like a moment of truth, which

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Speaker 1: is just like recapping the episodes. Think you took away

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Speaker 1: something that might have clicked to you that you never

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Speaker 1: thought of before. But for me with my A day

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Speaker 1: with k you know, guests, I like to end with

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Speaker 1: tell me something that you're dead ass about.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the first thing that come to mind is going

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Speaker 3: to be ridiculous. What is it?

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Speaker 2: The tittieses, y'all, I'm dead I mean, it doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to do this what we were talking about.

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Speaker 3: But I'm dead ass about my man and our family.

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Speaker 3: My man. I don't play about my family, and I

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Speaker 3: don't play about love.

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Speaker 2: And I think that I love love so much and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to openly conversate about it and speak about

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Speaker 2: it because for such a long time I was in

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Speaker 2: a music industry where you kind of just put that aside.

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Speaker 3: You are this one thing. You are a successful woman.

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Speaker 2: You are a go getter, and anything with relationships and

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Speaker 2: love and family is kind of on the back burner

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Speaker 2: and kind of growing into the woman that I am

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Speaker 2: now leaning into what has always motivated me seeing my

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Speaker 2: parents together growing up and you know, being in a

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Speaker 2: loving family and a loving home.

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Speaker 3: I know that I always knew that I really really

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Speaker 3: wanted that.

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Speaker 2: So moving in that light and being grown now and

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Speaker 2: looking back and being like, h I can have both

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Speaker 2: or I can't do that.

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Speaker 3: I'm dead ass about my family. I don't play about that.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: And you see, you've mentioned something that's really key because

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, being in the entertainment industry, like

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Speaker 1: you said, living in that space then now transitioning to

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Speaker 1: family and then wanting to maybe transition back into dancing

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Speaker 1: and acting all those things. You can do all the things,

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Speaker 1: and the best part about it is when you're dead

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Speaker 1: ass about your family and your man and your support

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Speaker 1: system and your village, they're the ones that you lean

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Speaker 1: on that will allow you to.

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Speaker 3: Exist in both spaces.

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Speaker 1: Yep, being wife, being mom and being the career woman

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Speaker 1: that you aspire to be.

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Speaker 3: It'll light up the stage, if anything.

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Speaker 1: Baby even brighter, even brighter. And I like to tell

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Speaker 1: my first time moms there's so much stress put on

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Speaker 1: getting back to yourself. Do you think about the snap

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Speaker 1: back right and not just physically but just everything, wanting

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Speaker 1: to be yourself again. And I've I've been telling my

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Speaker 1: new moms that that's not the case. You're never going

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Speaker 1: to be who you were before you had children. It's

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Speaker 1: about discovering who the new person is, who's the new candae,

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Speaker 1: What does she look like, what is she invested in,

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Speaker 1: what is she no longer tolerating? What boundaries is she

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Speaker 1: putting up? So always thinking about what you're going to

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Speaker 1: look like moving forward to be the best version of

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Speaker 1: yourself for your husband and your daughter, the new version.

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Speaker 2: I love that that's important and I appreciate that, Jim,

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Speaker 2: because yes, very much so new mom going through the things,

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out who I am after the fact,

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Speaker 2: And it's something that I'm glad you got to tell

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Speaker 2: me that because you have been there, You've done it.

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Speaker 3: I am multiple times times. Maybe that's what I tell

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Speaker 3: people all the time. So I'm like, if it was

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Speaker 3: that bad.

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Speaker 1: I know you're in the trenches now, but if it

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Speaker 1: was that bad, we'll all be only children.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but how we get amnesia?

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Speaker 1: I forget and we be loving our man so much

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Speaker 1: that it happens again and.

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Speaker 3: Again and again and in my case right.

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Speaker 1: And we just keep on going. But they're so worth it,

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Speaker 1: and it was so worth sitting down with you. I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy, happy that we made the trip to the

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Speaker 1: West Side into LA to chit chat for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be sure to have you back whenever we can.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for calling on me, and I'm so glad

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Speaker 2: that you called me for this, and I'm just so

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Speaker 2: appreciative to be here to be able to speak to

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Speaker 2: you and speak to your audience.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm just I'm just I really

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Speaker 3: feel honored. So we love you. Candy Girl. Oh that's

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Speaker 3: another karaoke song.

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Speaker 2: Candy Girl, you are our lot, so sweet baby.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know. I feel like they we're singing

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Speaker 3: that to me when I was a kid. That was

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Speaker 3: my song. It was your song.

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh my god, karaoke this episode, y'all all right?

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