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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to a very special holiday

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Speaker 1: episode of It Is This Is This Is This is

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Speaker 1: kind a weird one. So super producer Anajosnier and I

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Speaker 1: recorded a live episode at the US Open, like on

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Speaker 1: a big stage right next to Arthur ash Stadium. It

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to be at the US Open. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was you know, an interesting crowd ever, you know,

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Speaker 1: people were there to see tennis and then the daily

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Speaker 1: zeitgeist was happening for them, a little kind of tennis

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Speaker 1: focused one. So that's what you're about to hear. I

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Speaker 1: do really think that tennis is super interesting. Tennis's relationship

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Speaker 1: to the zeitgeist. We'll talk about challengers and fashion and

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Speaker 1: some of those things. Just generally, I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: as we've talked about a lot recently on the show,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big lever in the power of movies. Is

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Speaker 1: there a sport that has a better metacritics score than tennis?

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Speaker 1: Like tennis is just feels very prestige. Like, you know,

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Speaker 1: basketball is my other favorite sport. Basketball has you know,

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Speaker 1: it has solid movies, like you know, Blue Chips and Hoosiers,

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Speaker 1: but like it's got a lot of air buds and

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Speaker 1: you know, Teen Wolf maybe a movie that I consider

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Speaker 1: to be, you know, one of the great films of

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Speaker 1: all time, but I don't think most people consider it

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Speaker 1: to be one of the great films. Whereas like tennis

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Speaker 1: is prestige, Tennis is like Challengers and match Point, and

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Speaker 1: like there's this Hitchcock movie Strangers on a Train that

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Speaker 1: is like based in the world of tennis and has

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Speaker 1: this famous shot where like the heads like everybody's watching

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Speaker 1: You're like the shot is of a crowd watching a

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Speaker 1: tennis match and everybody's like following the ball except for

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Speaker 1: this one guy is like just looking straight forward and

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Speaker 1: it's super creepy, and I don't know, there's like something

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Speaker 1: King Richard obviously one best actor ten Embaum's uh has

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Speaker 1: one of my one of my favorite and most memorable

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Speaker 1: scenes from that is I think Richie's meltdown at the

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Speaker 1: US Open. But anyways, it just feels like tennis has

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Speaker 1: this like elevated prestige aspect to it. And yeah, we're well,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Brian brothers. Who are you know,

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Speaker 1: we we've recently covered the very interesting story of Anne

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Speaker 1: Landers and deer Abbey that was you know, covered on

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Speaker 1: American hysteria. But just like these are identical twins who

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Speaker 1: just got inducted into the Hall of Fame, who have

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Speaker 1: that like connection. That's that's so interesting, that like identical

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Speaker 1: twin connection. But like, you know, a thing that I've

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Speaker 1: made my underrated recently is like the tennis player coach dynamic,

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Speaker 1: Like the way that players will like when they mess up,

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Speaker 1: they will look at their coaches like they'll mishit it,

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Speaker 1: and then they will look at their coach and be like,

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Speaker 1: well that and it's just and like everybody accepts it.

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Speaker 1: It's this like interesting psychological dynamic that I'm obsessed with,

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Speaker 1: where like everybody like obviously the physics of the situation

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Speaker 1: would suggest that the coach didn't just mishit that shot,

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Speaker 1: and the logic would suggest the coach didn't tell them

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Speaker 1: in the second set, I want you to mishit this

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Speaker 1: like the player made a mistake. But like the metaphysics

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Speaker 1: and the psychology of the situation, everyone's just like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: they need the play, like this player needs to have

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Speaker 1: someone else they can blame besides themselves out there, and

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Speaker 1: the coaches just like kind of sit there and take

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Speaker 1: it as like part of their job. So anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a very interesting sport. We were lucky enough to

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Speaker 1: like go to one of the main events of tennis

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Speaker 1: and you know, get to hang out and drink in

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere. So you're about to hear it was like

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Speaker 1: kind of a quick trending episode up on a big

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Speaker 1: stage at the US Open. Thanks to the USTA for

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Speaker 1: letting us do this. It was super fun. It was

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Speaker 1: always fun to have Anna Hoosier back on the show.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, without further ado, here is a trending episode

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Speaker 1: of The Daily Zeikeeist that we recorded at the US

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Speaker 1: Open about a week ago. Thanks, what up the UFO bad?

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Speaker 1: How's everybody doing? My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm one

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Speaker 1: of the co hosts of The Daily Zekegeist. I've recently

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Speaker 1: become obsessed with tennis. This is our executive producer co

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Speaker 1: founder of the show, an A hose Ya.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, thanks for being here.

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Speaker 1: On one of the most tennis obsessed human beings that

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Speaker 1: I am aware of.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do love tennis, and I love to watch tennis,

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Speaker 2: and I love to play tennis.

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Speaker 1: And who is your game most reminiscent? Would you say?

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Speaker 2: My game is probably most reminiscent of Guyle Monfield's probably

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Speaker 2: because I'm older, but I honestly, I really wish I

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Speaker 1: I tried to do the jumping backhand, like the jackknife

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Speaker 1: that she thought it was hot that he could do that,

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Speaker 1: and I threw out my back. Oh. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: model my game after him, and that I do the

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Speaker 1: quiet like little fist bump if I actually get the

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Speaker 1: So The Daily Zeitgeist is a show where we talk

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Speaker 1: about what is happening. Do people know what Zeitgeist means?

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Speaker 1: It's German for do you the spirit of the time,

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Speaker 1: So it's like the ideas, you know, the culture that

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Speaker 1: is happening in the moment. And typically on our show,

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Speaker 1: we don't talk that much about sports because a lot

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Speaker 1: of our fans are the h oh, you're doing a

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Speaker 1: sports ball type of people. Sure, And I'm tired of

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Speaker 1: pretending tennis is not part of the zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: And this is a huge part.

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Speaker 1: Tennis is driving the zeitgeist right now. Yeah, really, guys,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about that. Where I'm done pretending

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Speaker 1: we're doing a sports ball today, We're talking about tennis

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Speaker 1: and its role in the zeitgeist and specifically like it

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Speaker 1: seems like it's exploding right now. I feel like it

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Speaker 1: more now than ever. I feel like you talk to

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Speaker 1: anybody on the streets of New York about the US Open,

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Speaker 1: They're not just like, oh, yeah, the Opens happening. They

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Speaker 1: know the storylines, they know the players, Yeah, they know

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Speaker 1: Why is tennis h popping off in such a major

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Speaker 1: theory that it's partially Challengers?

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Speaker 2: Sure, yes, it was huge, people loved it.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody seen Challengers? Anybody any Challengers fans out there?

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Speaker 1: And also not just standard media but social media. Have

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Speaker 1: you guys heard about social media? People follow people on

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Speaker 1: social media and the players are amazing follows. They're like

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Speaker 1: great personalities. So we're gonna we're gonna talk about that,

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Speaker 1: talk about some of the best follows on social media,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna ask you who your favorite follows are

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Speaker 1: on social media, so stick around for that. But first

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Speaker 1: of all, so we did google why why Tennis so popular?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm good at Google. I google why Tennis so popular?

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Speaker 1: And they're little like I explanation was partially Challengers, partially

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Speaker 2: It's a social distancing sport.

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Speaker 1: It is like by definition, social distance unless you like

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Speaker 1: there to be like volley on volley, of course, although

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Speaker 1: that is how Challengers ended. And then Google also said

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Speaker 1: the reason tennis is popular is because the ratings are

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Speaker 1: going up, because I think AI hasn't quite figured out

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Speaker 1: And then Challengers is on the list.

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Speaker 2: So a movie with a movie, yeah, that's generally sport

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Speaker 2: to the general public, generally helpful and also great outfits.

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Speaker 1: Great outfits, the style, the sassion, and like, that's why

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Speaker 1: it makes sense to have a movie about tennis with

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And also I say zenda and you say Zendaya.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that it?

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Speaker 1: Let's call the whole thing off right Broadway reference? Of course?

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Speaker 1: All right, should we talk challengers?

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Speaker 2: Sure, let's talk about challengers.

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Speaker 1: Also, people may be wondering why I'm wearing tennis whites.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's the Open, so you never know.

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Speaker 1: Second of all, I wanted to trick people into thinking

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Speaker 1: I was a tennis player, so like while you're walking

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Speaker 1: by the stage, you'd be like, oh, that's someone I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm a podcast host. But we'll see how many people

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Speaker 1: we can actually trick during the course of this recording.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, nobody's gonna believe that you have

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Speaker 1: gray hair? What are you talking about? But anyways, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm LARPing right now, but you got don't tell anybody that.

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Speaker 1: All right? Challengers? Oh wait, let me get everybody on

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Speaker 1: my side. How great is pickleball? You guys?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Really just to get that hollow, dinking sound and the

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Speaker 1: sound of like, yeah, okay, are you do you pick.

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Speaker 2: When I don't play it regularly, I have played it,

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Speaker 2: and I will say though having a tennis background makes

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Speaker 2: it so much easier to play pickleball. But if you

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Speaker 2: it's pretty fun. It doesn't work well, but it's fun.

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Speaker 1: You can't put any spin on it. You just hit

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Speaker 1: at tennis after I play pickleball, but we have somebody

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Speaker 1: pickleball is popular, but like also so like pickballs at

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Speaker 1: a place in the zeitgeist where it's like a punchline

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Speaker 1: on social media. I feel like like people, I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it has a very it's easy

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, tennis is brutal, just like trying to learn it.

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Speaker 1: But I also feel like one of the reasons tennis

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Speaker 1: it's still so funny even when you're terrible, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: You're actually not that bad. I've seen you play before.

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen you serve though you've only seen me

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Speaker 2: The serve is uh, I am worried about your serf.

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Speaker 1: We're all worried about your serf.

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Speaker 2: We're all super worried about your serf.

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Speaker 1: All right, Challengers, though I do want to talk about that,

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Speaker 1: because please I wanted to. I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: Challengers is a reason that tennis got more popular, Right,

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Speaker 1: So I looked into like how Challengers happen, like why

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Speaker 1: they decided to make a movie about tennis, And it

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Speaker 1: actually started here in the US Open final twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: between Serena and Naomi where there was like the call

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Speaker 1: about uh, Serena getting coaching right, which very controversial, We

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Speaker 1: writer saw that was like, it's so interesting that there's

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Speaker 1: this like communication happening between the player and the coach.

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Speaker 1: Like you have this person who's like the only person

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Speaker 1: as much as you do, but they can't like communicate

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Speaker 1: to communicate, but yeah, the communication between.

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Speaker 1: And then they're also the influencer girlfriends that I know

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Speaker 1: The original Jordan's are Stan Smith's. Okay. And then another

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Speaker 1: can I was telling you about Ann Landers and dear

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Speaker 1: Abby backstage, which like those are identical twins who ended

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Speaker 1: up in like this massive feud. But I didn't know

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Speaker 1: they were identical twins, very very topical reference. Everybody knows

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Speaker 1: an Landers and deer As, but like they like that

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Speaker 1: can blow up in so many ways if you have

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Speaker 1: two twins who are like doing the same thing, Like yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were in a few lifelong feud whereas these guys

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Speaker 1: like would fight but then make up and are the

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Speaker 1: greatest ever doing court and then get on the court

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Speaker 1: and dominate. So yeah, I don't know, I find that

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Speaker 1: super interesting. There's a good podcast with Patrick McEnroe and

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Speaker 1: then being interviewed that just like kind of tells their

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Speaker 1: story that everybody should check out all right, do we

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Speaker 1: do we want to go to the audience for any questions?

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Speaker 1: Does anybody do we have a Do we have a mic?

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Speaker 2: He's got the mic.

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Speaker 1: We got a mic out there. Let's go. Favorite social

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Speaker 1: media follow tennis player? Anybody have one? You two have

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Speaker 1: been here the whole time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she is really good.

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Speaker 1: She's saying amazing right now. Who is that your pick

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Speaker 1: for the women's Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like she might a breakpoint?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was your pick also backstage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Ega can take it this year. We'll see,

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Speaker 2: but I will say, like, while watching Breakpoints, something great

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Speaker 2: about her is one way that she relaxes is she

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Speaker 2: builds legos. I don't know if you guys saw that.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty cool. That's It's like how her down

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Speaker 2: time to like sort of calm her mind.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. That's also my way of doing it. I

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Speaker 1: pretend like I'm doing it for my kids, but I'm

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Speaker 1: actually like, stop, don't touch that, all right? Any other

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Speaker 1: good social media follows?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's also got some great fits. She does

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Speaker 2: some great collabs with nineteen more players should do that.

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Speaker 2: They should really be designing their own gear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's your favorite like fashion icon tennis player.

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Speaker 2: I mean I like, yeah, I like as well, great call.

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Speaker 2: She does some great work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who else?

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Speaker 2: Who else is great? I mean obviously Coco with her

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Speaker 2: her new new new Balance collabs. Those are great. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Venus has a great line of like leggings and gear

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Speaker 2: that you can wear that I've looked at. It's really nice.

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Speaker 1: Nice. All right, let's go out on our picks. Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna Who's gonna win it? You had sweet Tech, I think?

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Speaker 1: And who.

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm thanking maybe IgA and then for men

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Speaker 2: Janick Center maybe. Look, I'm hoping he can come back

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Speaker 2: from you know, his Cincinnati Open retirement possibly win it all.

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Speaker 2: Who knows. I am hoping it's a Carlos so we

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Speaker 2: could see everybody Carlos eight hour final.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's gonna be Carlos. And I

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Speaker 1: think Coco's coming for the I really hope.

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Speaker 2: So it would be great to see Coco come back

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Speaker 2: and win the Open again.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you to the USTA, Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for hanging with us. And uh yeah, I have

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