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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling raivalry. No, no,

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Speaker 1: sibling raval. Don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's

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Speaker 1: good Sarah and Foster the terrible Faster. No, this is

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Speaker 1: more like save No Sound is a good bad cast.

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Speaker 1: So today's episode was really interesting because we had on

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Speaker 1: our close close friends, well really my close friends. You're

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Speaker 1: sort of like the older brother of my close friends, right,

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Speaker 1: the older around right, you know, And it was Sarah

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Foster. It's fun because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are looking forward to this. We've gotten a lot of

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Speaker 1: people writing in going what are you going to do?

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Speaker 1: The Foster sisters. And it's fun for me because obviously,

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Speaker 1: when you grow up with someone and you've known them

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Speaker 1: for so long, it's really fun to see people really

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Speaker 1: love what they're doing. They think they're hilarious, they relate

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Speaker 1: to them. I said, you said they think they're hilarious. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do. They think they're hilarious. Oh, the fans think

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Speaker 1: that the fans think that they're hilarious. I thought you

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Speaker 1: were saying that Aaron and Sarah think but that's hilarious. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've been our number one request I think. I mean,

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Speaker 1: as far as reading the comments and stuff, people are

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Speaker 1: sort of asking, what about Sarah and Aaron Foster, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it really doesn't disappoint. I mean, they're really candid.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that about them too. I mean they

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Speaker 1: just say what's on their mind. And but what's nice

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Speaker 1: is just you know, people do know them from barely

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Speaker 1: Famous and their Instagram accounts. But I do think that

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Speaker 1: knowing them, we were able to sort of maybe get

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Speaker 1: into some things that a lot of people who've seen

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Speaker 1: them and think that they know them don't. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah for sure. I was just kind of

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Speaker 1: I knew all of it, so I just I don't

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Speaker 1: think I said much the whole podcast. I can't even

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Speaker 1: remember it. It was sort of a blur. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was really like sitting with I mean, it really

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Speaker 1: not in like a negative way, not sort of, but

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Speaker 1: about her journey because she really was kind of a

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Speaker 1: black sheep a little bit of the family just in

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Speaker 1: terms of the kind of person she was and the

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Speaker 1: kinds of things she was interested in and stand up comedy,

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Speaker 1: and she wanted to get out, you know, she she

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Speaker 1: from She didn't feel really like she belonged well. And

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Speaker 1: I mean they had they had not a great relationship

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Speaker 1: they're so tight now. But it wasn't even like not

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Speaker 1: Sarah and interested. She was disinterested in Aaron. Sarah completely

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Speaker 1: completely disinterested. It wasn't even like love or hate. She

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Speaker 1: just right really like, you're not on my level. You

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Speaker 1: are not on my plantane. Who are you go play

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Speaker 1: has completely defined who one of them is for Aaron,

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Speaker 1: you know, Sarah is I still I mean, I'm still

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what Oh yeah, what's defined Sarah?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? But but you know what's great about Sarah's

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Speaker 1: She's open and self deprecating and candid, yes, and funny

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Speaker 1: don't talk about the dynamics of the childhood, like their

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Speaker 1: love these girls. I know you're going to love these

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Speaker 1: girls if you don't already. And here's Sarah and Aaron Foster.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Sarah and Aaron Foster to our podcast. We officially started.

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Speaker 1: There's no formula to how we do this. We just started.

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Speaker 1: We started ten minutes ago in the kitchen. Just want

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Speaker 1: That's like one of the interviews where like you don't

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Speaker 1: even know you're already being interviewed when you're being difficult

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Speaker 1: when you walk in the door, right, and then they're

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start looking at it while we're here

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Speaker 1: to go. You want to learn about us as you read.

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Speaker 1: I went to boarding school. I didn't. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: here's what that's everybody should know is that Sarah and

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Speaker 1: often now than it did fifteen years ago. When I

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Speaker 1: of your background. First of all, do you know where

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Speaker 1: think her doing stand up was lame? God? No, I

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Speaker 1: I was just like I'll never forget when Allie took

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Speaker 1: that does feel very powerful. So I think it was

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00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: more powerful, probably on my end than your end, because

426
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: to me, I didn't exist unless Sarah would like let

427
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: me into her world or she would think what I

428
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: was doing was cool, or she would accept me. And

429
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: I lived and died by that concept. It wasn't until

430
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: I let go of it and I was like, fuck this,

431
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: this isn't working for me. Well, well you started dating

432
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: Chad Michael Murray, so you became really cool and all right,

433
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: you're right about that. That's actually when she realized she

434
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't need me. She's like, yo, I'm fucking dating Chad

435
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: Michael Murray. She did give me some seals. That's actually

436
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: what shifted. It wasn't even really to Sarah that that

437
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: felt like that, but it was like to the world.

438
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: I had not been cool yet, and then all of

439
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: a sudden, I remember it. Guy was like died for

440
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: me and I kept being like, wait why, And I

441
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: was like, I was so happy for you. Like I

442
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: think some people would assume that then I would because

443
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't dating anyone, But I was like, that's so dope.

444
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: Like here's the deal. I rooted for Aaron always. I

445
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't want her to fail. I was just oblivious to

446
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: it all. Something I think that held so much weight

447
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: for her didn't hold weight. But then what happened with you?

448
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: When did you finally be like, okay, in your twenties,

449
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: start paying attention to your sister who was devastated by

450
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: the way she treated her. Thank you and by the

451
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: way I didn't know at the time. If I hadn't

452
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: known at the time what it was actually doing to her,

453
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: I was just first of all, it's like it's very

454
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: very classic sibling relationship. I mean, at the end of

455
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: the day, too, you guys are dealing with a broken

456
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 1: family dynamic. You're dealing with your probably intense need and

457
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: desire to seek connection with family, needing validation. Sarah was

458
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: seeking that elsewhere, not by not with you because you're

459
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: not older. So Sarah was seeking that with people like me. Yeah, boys,

460
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: her friends and her family. Right, I was upset with boys.

461
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: I remember meeting your parents. I was like, I want

462
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: them to be my parents. They were so cool. Like

463
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: we would joke in our house. We'd be like, you

464
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: just want to be a sibling of the Haunt. Yes,

465
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: I did. We lived basically lived together every weekend. But

466
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: I was more concerned, truthfully, And I'll make it really quick.

467
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: You know, we have to throw in like our dad

468
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: was raising other children. He wasn't raising us. He was

469
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: raising Brandon and Brodie. That was a family my mom.

470
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: So for Aaron, what would like weigh so heavily on her?

471
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: Was like me, I was like dealing with my whole

472
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: own emotional turmoil, which is like watching my father raise

473
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: other children. And that was the thing that kept me

474
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: up at night, not like my little sister, who I loved.

475
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: What was the time when you guys started to figure

476
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: out what it was that you wanted to I mean,

477
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: I know you started doing little bits of modeling and auditioning.

478
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: That was my only way out. My only way was,

479
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: Like my dad was like, look, if you're not going

480
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: to college. Figure it out. And at that time, everyone

481
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: was telling me I could be a model. So I

482
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can be a model and like

483
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: make money and then not have to go to college

484
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: and still date this guy I am dating, And yes,

485
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: that's amazing. So I fully started modeling. I was just like,

486
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: how can I pay my phone bill and my car

487
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 1: bill and stay with this guy? And modeling was was

488
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: the thing. And I wasn't like, you know, that's successful

489
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: at it? But I got I worked a lot. Did

490
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: you go to like Europe? And I went to Paris?

491
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: You know, I did the whole thing. So then Aaron,

492
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: you went to Switzerland? I was checked out. Yeah, I

493
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: was for eleventh grade and you loved it. I did

494
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: really love it. I r I did actually Swiss Man. No,

495
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: unfortunately to a guy from Tennessee. Okay, but he came

496
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: for a really rich family. I don't know if that helps?

497
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: That does do I When I was at school in Malibu,

498
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: I I hated living in Malibu, like it was the

499
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: the depths of my law and happiness, I think, And

500
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys had a different, different experience and

501
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: it's different for guys there, But I would say that

502
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: guys in Malibu are maybe the lowest form of humanity,

503
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: the world's blanket statement that is just not uncomfortable putting

504
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: it out to appreciate. Where did you go? Did you

505
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 1: go to Malibu High? I? Did you went to malib Well,

506
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: back then, Malibu High was fucking crazy. Malibu Hi was

507
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: filled with guys who called you a bitch, made you

508
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: pay for dinner if they asked you to go to

509
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: dinner with them. And I'd never had asked for a

510
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: hand job, and then fall asleep, and then like the

511
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: first the first date I was ever taken on you

512
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 1: hand jobs was no, no no, no. The first date I

513
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: was ever taken on, This guy asked me out. He

514
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: was rich, his dad was on a soap opera, and

515
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: he was driving me to dinner. And I'd never gone

516
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: out to dinner with anyone before, and I mean like

517
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: a date. I was fifteen or sixteen or whatever. And

518
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: he stopped at Bank of America on the way for

519
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: me to get cash out on my debit card, and

520
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: then he took me to Nobu and he put the

521
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: bill on his dad's credit card and then had me

522
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: give him cash for my half. Wow, Okay, that was

523
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: the kind of gentleman that I was exposed to me.

524
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: Did you make out with him? I don't not that night.

525
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Probably I didn't put out last night, I pay I

526
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: probably didn't. You know what. He ended up dumping me

527
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: while I was at the Space Dam premiere and I

528
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: got a beeper message and it was like a voicemail

529
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: on the beeper that I was getting dumped at the

530
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: Space Dam premiere. So that movie is like pretty trigger. Oh.

531
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the guys in Malibu, what

532
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: their vibe was was like, spend my parents' money. They're

533
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: they're burnout stoners. No one's interested in the world. No

534
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: one's like treating women with any kind of respect. No

535
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: one's like curious about the world or doing anything interesting

536
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: or talking about anything outside of what's happening in Malibu.

537
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: When you went to Switzerland, what did it feel like

538
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: for you in the first couple of weeks. Was it

539
00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: like freedom? Yeah? So, I basically I was so kind

540
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: of unhappy with it being in Malibu that I had

541
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: heard about Concord and I and I went there first

542
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: because I thought, oh, if I'm in Santa Monica, then

543
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: it'll be you know who went there and that's why

544
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: I knew about it. Was your ex girlfriend's little sister,

545
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: Natalie Natalie Shaw, and I met her somewhere in the

546
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: world and she said she went to Concord. I thought

547
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: that's so cool. And I was like, Oh, if I

548
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: maybe have a go to school in Santa Monica, then

549
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: I'll meet different kinds of people that I'll feel more

550
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: connected to. And so I did a year at Concord,

551
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: and that obviously wasn't enough. It was not that far.

552
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: And so then I was like, I want to go

553
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: the farthest place I can possibly think of, and I

554
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: found the school in Switzerland that would take me, and

555
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: I went, and I kind of had this instinct like

556
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: even if I go to this thing and it's terrible

557
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: and scary and like painful and difficult, I just know

558
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: instinctively I'm gonna be a better person for it. Like

559
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: I just know that I live in this bubble that's

560
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: so uninspiring to me. And I don't mean like I'm

561
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: so I was so deep and like needed to be stimulated,

562
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: but I was just like, so really didn't feel like

563
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: I was understood or seen by anybody around me, and

564
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: I thought, like I need to see be in a

565
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: different part of the world with different kinds of people.

566
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: And as soon as I got to Switzerland to answer

567
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: your question, it was very scary, but I quickly realized

568
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: that the hottest girl in school was not necessarily the

569
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: most popular girl. People judged each other based on a

570
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: well rounded whole, like full spectrum of qualities, not just

571
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: like are your parents rich, do you serve? What car

572
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: do you drive? It was like how many languages do

573
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: you speak? Where do you want to go to college?

574
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: Are you nice to people? How many activities are you

575
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: involved with? Like people were just more well rounded and

576
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: that felt more accessible to me. But you were. It

577
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: seems like you were extremely proactive in deciding your future

578
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: at that young age, right, you were the one who

579
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: were You were leading the charge though, meaning like fuck Malibu,

580
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: I want to go to Concord. Okay, fuck Concord. I'm

581
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: gonna find Switzerland and me, yes, this is why. But

582
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: that's a great quest. I mean I would, Yeah, I

583
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: mean I would. That's pretty mature. Well, what's interesting about

584
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: that concept that what you're just saying is that I

585
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: am now engaged to someone whose parents have been married

586
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: for forty years and he comes from a Russian Jewish

587
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: culture that's a thick community of like family oriented people,

588
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: And very early on in our relationship I realized this

589
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: like disconnect and our upbringing because he was like Aaron

590
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: the number one rule in life is you always honor

591
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: your parents, and I was, like, honor your parents. I

592
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: had to like completely rebel against my parents to survive,

593
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Like I had to tell my parents to fuck off,

594
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: and like I'm going to Switzerland and I'm going to

595
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: go here, Like to survive, I had to basically tell

596
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: them how what I'm going to do, or else I

597
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: would have been stuck in allan. But to be fair,

598
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: our parents didn't fight, not that I remember our parents were.

599
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: We had parents that I think we're okay with us

600
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: going away. The one thing that I'm finding really interesting

601
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: because we never talk like this, which is so great

602
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: because we spend time together and we do everything together basically,

603
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: but we don't ever get into sort of the depths

604
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: of family dynamics and like how that informs who we

605
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: are today. But the one thing that I'm hearing is

606
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: a lot of searching outward, but the internals drive to

607
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: be something or do something, or be passionate about something

608
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: is missing from this conversation, which I find really interesting

609
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: because you guys are doing interesting. You guys have a

610
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: plan of action now, but in terms of like what

611
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: you were interested in doing when you were younger, or

612
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: what you were passionate about was something that you hadn't

613
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: really discovered as kids. I think our twenties were survival

614
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: mode in a lot of ways, Like our childhood was. Well,

615
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: our childhood definitely was, but going into our twenties at

616
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 1: least survival mode. Survival mode in what way? Well we

617
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: had you know, we had Listen, we grew up with

618
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: a safety net, right. Our dad always said to us,

619
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: you'll never be homeless and you'll never be hungry. But

620
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: we did not have a trust fund. We did not

621
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: have an allowance. We did not have, like have an allowiance.

622
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: What we did have an allowance? No, but we didn't

623
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: have We had to have a job. I guess what

624
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I was asking you. Were you talking about emotional survival modes?

625
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking double. I feel like at least my story

626
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: is I didn't really have time to figure out what

627
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: I really loved because I was just so focused on

628
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: I've got to make money, Like I like was I

629
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: passionate about modeling. Fuck, no, did I want to go

630
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: audition to be like the host of ET on MTV. Like, sure,

631
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: it was cool, I say that was cool. No, it was,

632
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: But like, could I honestly say that I was passionate

633
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: about it? Pretty cool? I can't say that I was passionate. Well,

634
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: here's the other dynamic that was happening, which is what

635
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: Sarah's referring to. Also, is that we didn't We never

636
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: lived with our dad right after our parents broke up.

637
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: So from the ages of three and five, we were

638
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: living with our mom and our dad was living in

639
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: this twenty million dollar house with Brandon and Brody, and

640
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: it had like the trolley and it had the pool,

641
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: and it had this thing and pemple for cars. Yeah,

642
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: they had a very different life. But out in the

643
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: world people would be like, you guys are spoiled brats

644
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: and you guys have it all in your rich kids,

645
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Speaker 1: And we would be like, I mean yeah, but like,

646
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,920
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647
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: don't have the gate code, Like we don't have a

648
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: room there, we don't We're not really a part of

649
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: that world. We we eventually got to make for the

650
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: gate code. We didn't have a key. We didn't have

651
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: a key actually, But I was less about like resentment

652
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: towards them. It was more like we're misunderstood out in

653
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: the world because we have this like fake, spoiled lifestyle,

654
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: but we're not even really allowed to be a part

655
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: of it. But so we get all sort of like

656
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: the backlash for it, but we don't actually like get

657
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: the benefits. And I think when you're fifteen, you don't

658
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: have the maturity to understand that, like them having a

659
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: spoiled lifel is not going to serve them. Well, you're

660
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: just like, why do they have all these things that

661
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't have? And my dad's the one giving it

662
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: to them. Sarah is a very stoic personality right until

663
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: she's not, and like, deep down you're quite sensitive and

664
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: can be fragile at times. This thing that's been built

665
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: up for so long based on whatever that was, when

666
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: it starts to break down, she still has a hard

667
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: time letting totally. But we've been told by our father

668
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: to toughen up those words. Since we're five years old.

669
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: We didn't really have like any parental unit that was

670
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: sort of giving like a nurturing environment for this. What's

671
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: interesting though. It's interesting though it is like from from

672
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: a sisterhood standpoint, you guys were so separate, so you

673
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: you didn't you couldn't rely on each other for any

674
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: sort of emotional support. Yeah, because you were doing your

675
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: own thing, and you know, you didn't want any part

676
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: of Aaron and Aaron and so I and literally friends

677
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: your friends. We never even we never even hung out

678
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: with any of the girls, like they were never around.

679
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Like literally Sarah lived almost my completely different life than

680
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: you know the girls were. I mean, Jordan, I'm only

681
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: now really in the last couple of years, I mean

682
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: seven years. I guess it's getting it was getting out there.

683
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: But I always went to you. You never came to me.

684
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't ever. I don't really have a memory of

685
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: her being at our house growing up. I remember when

686
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: we had our house, I always came. I never went

687
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: to You're in our late teens and wead our house

688
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: in Malibu and Sarah and I lived on the bottom

689
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: floor the cavalry. The cavaliery. Now that's when I started.

690
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: And I remember, like when Sarah's phone line would ring,

691
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: I would like run to the living room to try

692
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: to answer so I could like talk to one of

693
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: her friends, because I was like, what's her life? Like,

694
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: who does she talk to? I just wanted to like know.

695
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,919
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696
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,480
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697
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,600
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698
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: a glimpse of being able to talk to one of

699
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:44,680
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741
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742
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,920
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743
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744
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746
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747
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,360
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748
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,480
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749
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,520
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750
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,239
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751
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: wasn't passionate. I don't think she was fulfilled, probably because

752
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: she was on the wrong path at that point, and

753
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,360
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754
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,840
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755
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: and I had never figured that out before. I never

756
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757
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,600
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758
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: jokes was just like something I had to phase out

759
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: because it was like what made me like blush and

760
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: say the wrong thing. I didn't realize it was like

761
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: actually something I should harness and use to my advantage.

762
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, you were not even acting in comedy.

763
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: You were in every single drama on television. It's true

764
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: you got cast in every like like one. Because I

765
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: really really didn't know who I was. I was trying

766
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: so hard to be like taken seriously, I just didn't

767
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: have any idea. So when I was like twenty six

768
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: or seven, I started a blog when blogging was cool,

769
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: like not today blogging, original blogging called totally Confident and

770
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: Completely Insecure dot com. And that's when I realized I

771
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: wanted to be a writer. And I started the single

772
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: Girl's Guide on Hello Giggles, and I started being like, oh,

773
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: I want to be like an internet writer. I was

774
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: writing for Daily Candy and I was like, this is

775
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: going to be my world. And then I ended up

776
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: writing a script and then I ended up getting like

777
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: signed to CIA as a writer, and I was like, Okay,

778
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: I finally figured out my purpose. My purpose is I

779
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: want to be a writer. That's gonna be my life.

780
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: I'll be a staff writer. I'll create shows like this

781
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: is my dream. Had nothing to do with sarahcuse she

782
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: was on a different path. I was on a television

783
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: show called nine two and at the time, the remake,

784
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: the remake, Yeah, the remake, and so then you didn't

785
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: get asked back for this latest unfortunately I didn't know.

786
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry about that. Thank you still time. Where

787
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: was what was Sarah doing? By the way, when you

788
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: were she was acting on Were you guys? Were you

789
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: guys connected? Yes, we were all we were all connected.

790
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: Aaron started and Aaron Aaron then became friends with all

791
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: my friends. For people that are listening that don't know us,

792
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: that don't know any of these dynamics, I think it

793
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: could come across like that. I was awful, which in

794
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: a lot of ways with Aaron, I take I regret

795
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: a lot of it. But you know, I was always

796
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: her champion, always supportive of her, was so excited for

797
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: her to be friends with my friends. I also remember

798
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: when she had her first stand up. I remember you

799
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: with her first one. Where was it in the valley?

800
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: You see, b I made everyone, everybody had to come.

801
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: It was like a whole thing, and she was very

802
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: like It's true, she was very one of that found

803
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: I think she was very supportive of it. And the

804
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: relationships that we have with our parents really do define

805
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: our relationships with our siblings a lot of time. And

806
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: you understand why the way that you grew up became

807
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: your survival mode against each other or with each other,

808
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: and that like Sarah being mean to me was because

809
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: she was going through her own ship and she didn't

810
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: have room and space to be a big sister because

811
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: she was trying to be her own That's a good

812
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: way of putting it. There was no rumor space like

813
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: I had so much of my own inner turmoil with

814
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: our own family dynamic. But you look back and you're like,

815
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're each other each other's allies. One

816
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: thing our dad always did say to us is the

817
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: most important thing to him was that we would cultivate

818
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: a deep, meaningful connection with each other as siblings, because

819
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: he would say, that is all you have in life, truly,

820
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: this is all you have. Okay, at the end of

821
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: the day, they're the only people who will ever know

822
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: exactly what it's like to grow up in your household

823
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: with your mom and your dad, and that is an

824
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: invaluable thing. There's no their husband, your wife. You cannot Yeah,

825
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: you cannot find that in a partner or best friend.

826
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: No one will really truly know that, and and that's

827
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: really important. So Sarah and I didn't plan on working

828
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: together in the sense that we just hadn't thought of it. Well,

829
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: you were staffing on it. So I went and staffed

830
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: on an NBC show, on this rhyme review show, and

831
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm a real writer. Then that

832
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: show got canceled, and I tried to sell a pitch

833
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: another show and didn't get bought, and I didn't really

834
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: know what I was going to do as a writer.

835
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: And then my managers at three Arts were like, you know,

836
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837
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,879
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838
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: us asking you and your sisters to do reality shows,

839
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: and you guys don't want to. It's so funny, like

840
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: you guys are the only people who are just trying

841
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: desperately to not be on a reality show. And we

842
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: kind of like looked at each other and they're like,

843
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: let's think about that. There's something funny in that as

844
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 1: an idea. So we had this coffee and they were like, Okay,

845
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,400
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846
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,320
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847
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,200
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848
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: and so they're filming a reality show about that, and

849
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: it's this like meta comedy. And I was like, that's genius.

850
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: And I was looking for a show to write and

851
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: to sell. So I called Sarah. She was in Europe

852
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: and I pitched her this idea I just had, well

853
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: not it's like a one did I just have a baby?

854
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: I don't remember. And Sarah was like, that sounds really weird.

855
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's a reality show. I was like,

856
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, it's literally just a comedy making fun

857
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: of reality TV. So we started working on the idea

858
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: for Barely Famous, and that was the first time we

859
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: had ever worked together, and it started this like comedic

860
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: duo sister thing that we now have a career made

861
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: out of, and we didn't plan on doing that. All

862
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden, people were going, you guys are really

863
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: funny and this show is so good and where did

864
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: you guys come from? And people started taking us seriously

865
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: in a space that we could never even I mean,

866
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: Comedy Central wouldn't even hear the pitch. Comedy Central was like,

867
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: we don't know, we're good, like they're hot, Like we'll

868
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: talk to them, but what they're comedians now, I mean,

869
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: And then the which is like when you know, when

870
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: you hear stuff like that, it just it's it's fuel

871
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: for you, like, oh really okay, And then cut to

872
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: after season one, they were like, god, we should have

873
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: taken that meeting. You know, it's it feels so good,

874
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: but listen, we could talk about this forever. But it

875
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: was smart though, because you guys were doing a concept

876
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: based on who what your relationship is, but heightened now

877
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: that you guys work together with all of the dynamics

878
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: that growing up and the relationship that you guys have now,

879
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: is it challenging to work together? Yeah? I mean, we're

880
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: in a good We're we're in a really good place now,

881
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: especially with you know, our overall at twentieth now has

882
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: put us in a really it's sort of given us

883
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: freedom to be involved in what the other person does.

884
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: But let me just say that, you guys just got

885
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: a deal twentieth for producing shows. Yes, overall at twentieth

886
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have no cos But but the way

887
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: before the overall, I think that like any relationship, romantic, sibling, parent, anything,

888
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: Sarah and I are in a very good place now

889
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: for one reason and one reason only, and that's that

890
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 1: we've communicated and dealt with our issues over and over

891
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: and over again constantly. And when we started working together,

892
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: it was very challenging because we still we had we

893
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: still had power dynamic issues. I still had old resentment

894
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: towards her, and she still had old resentment towards me.

895
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: So the littlest thing that I would do would set

896
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: her off and vice versa. And we fought a lot

897
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: season one, and then we had to have these conversations.

898
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: He's like, come to Jesus, like give it to me.

899
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Tell me everything that I did that pissed you off.

900
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you everything and crying and doing these three

901
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: hour powows, and then we'd have to start fresh. So

902
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: we we've had to like reset ourselves a bunch of

903
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: times and process things and talk them through. And we're

904
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: at a really great place because we have now figured

905
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: out and understood what our strengths are and not to

906
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: step on each other's and so that has helped a lot.

907
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: Do you feel codependent in any way based on the

908
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: success you've had together? I think love each other. I

909
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: think we realize that it's so interesting that the thing

910
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: that we're most proud of up to this point career

911
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: wise is something we did together. And I think that

912
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: as siblings and especially as sisters, it is such a

913
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: joy to be able to be working together. But at

914
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: the same time, Aaron's a writer, and Aaron's excited to

915
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: write things for herself, and I'm excited to produce things

916
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: that she writes, and that's you know, last year she

917
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: had a pilot that I produced and she started, and

918
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: that was the very first time that we embarked on

919
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: that dynamic and it really worked. So ultimately, I do

920
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: think think that us together is so strong, but us

921
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: separate is also strong. I think I'm kind of getting

922
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: to it. I've gotten to a much better place because

923
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: Sarah and I have figured out our roles where we

924
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: really do champion each other more than like strangle this

925
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: attempt to be together. And did that happen though in

926
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: barely Famous Season one when you guys were butting heads

927
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: and had to sort of have those come to Jesus moments?

928
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, was that part of the healing process of

929
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: that tough? What was it? What were you guys like

930
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: interesting crying about? We all really have our own narratives.

931
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: Like Season one was joyful for me, Like I there

932
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: were moments where, you know, Aaron would we would cut

933
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 1: and she'd come on set and she'd be like, Okay,

934
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: you're you're just you're not funny, Like you're not being funny.

935
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: This isn't funny at all, just like that, like that,

936
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: literally like that. It would be like I didn't know

937
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: it takes it and she'd be like, I can't take

938
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: it anymore. It's so unfunny. I'm dying because I think

939
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: I definitely would say that, Oh my god, I definitely

940
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: would not. That's not Sarah. I'm letting Sarah take this run.

941
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: But it's not actually true. But but no, I would

942
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: walk in and I would be like, Okay, that's not working.

943
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: I asked you to seem surprised, and it's like, you're

944
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: not listening to me act surprised. And I would do

945
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: this in front of the whole set, and that was

946
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: not a good way to do things. Also, Sarah considered

947
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: a call time to be just like a light suggestion

948
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: of when you should be somewhere. She didn't really take

949
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: that product of our friendship serious, would I mean, Sarah?

950
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: She just Sarah didn't and she's better about it now.

951
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: But the idea of like professionalism was not something that

952
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: was important to her, And I am not that. I

953
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: am it's very important to me to be on time.

954
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: To not She would have conversations that were so inappropriate

955
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: in front of hair and makeup people. She would be

956
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: like arguing with me about something personal, and I'd be like,

957
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: can you just like pick a time I've fired off

958
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: of a UPN pilot for bad behavior? You did remember that? Oh?

959
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: I was fire? Don't remember? What did you do? I was?

960
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I I did it? I was late. I

961
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: like didn't know my lines. You guys, I just they

962
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: were like they were like yeah. They were like they

963
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: were like this is crazy. They were like they literally

964
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: recast me after the pilot because I was late. I

965
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: was I think I was forty five minutes late to

966
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: day one. She was very unpretentib I just and so

967
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: for me, I was like, if I'm going to do

968
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: this thing with you, I need you to respect these boundaries.

969
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in an authoritative position because

970
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm coming from a comedy background. At

971
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: this point, I'm writing comedies, I'm doing comedy. I'm stand

972
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: up all this stuff making a comedy and this is serious.

973
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: So like, show up on time. I'm going to give

974
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: you a direction, do the thing that I asked you to,

975
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: and our power dynamic switched where all of a sudden,

976
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: I was like acting like I'm in charge, and I

977
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: think for Sarah, on one hand, she was like, Okay,

978
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: I want to do what you want me to do.

979
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, she was like, don't tell

980
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: me what to do. Not number one on the call sheet,

981
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: Like this is our show. We sold this together, this

982
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: is our concept. I've been in the writer on the

983
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: call sheet since did you run? Were you both number

984
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: ones on the I think Aaron was because you guys

985
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: were like bullet bullet points. No. But but here's the thing, like,

986
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to like toot my own

987
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: fucking horn here, but like I rose to the occasion.

988
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: I had not done comedy. And by the way, let's

989
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: just start by on the way to day one. Our manager,

990
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't my manager at the time. He called on speaker.

991
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: He was Aaron's manager, and he it was his idea

992
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: for the show New Call, and I think it was

993
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: on the way to shoot the scene with you at

994
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: the store, and he was like, oh my god, I'm

995
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: so excited. He's on speaker, so excited. It's gonna be great,

996
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: Like this fucking show is gonna be so funny. I

997
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: only have one concern Sarah on speaker and I was like, Ollie,

998
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: you're on spears, Sarah, And then afterwards he was like, no, listen,

999
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: I just this show needs to be really grounded. And

1000
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: you have been on like a soap opera for the

1001
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: last five years, and I just, you know, we just

1002
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: really need to keep you ground like, look, you're not

1003
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: a great actress, which I don't know what to say.

1004
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything, but the reality. Here's the thing

1005
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm not insecure about where I know I can act,

1006
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: but I didn't before I know that I really didn't know.

1007
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: I really didn't know. Like this show challenged me in ways. Yes,

1008
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean it was scripted, but there's a lot of

1009
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: improvising that needs to be done. And as you guys

1010
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 1: both know, having comedic timing is something you can't even

1011
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: really learn, like you can get better at it, but

1012
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: like you have it or you don't. And it was

1013
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna either work or it wasn't gonna work. And we

1014
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: did realize day one like this is gonna work. But

1015
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: it was challenging figuring out. You know, I was like

1016
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: directing a lot of season one, and so I would

1017
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: come in and like I felt like this is my

1018
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: world and you're here. You have to do what I

1019
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: tell you to. And Sarah was like, no, this is

1020
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: our show and we have to find a balance, and

1021
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: and she was right about a lot of things, cause

1022
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: like my bedside manner was very like I finally found

1023
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: my thing, don't fuck it up for me, and you

1024
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: have to do what I ask you to. And so

1025
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: we had to find both of our powers. I would

1026
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: have quit if Aaron would have said that to me,

1027
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I fucking quit, But deep

1028
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: down I was happy for her to take the reins,

1029
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: like deep down the truth. But here's the way. Did

1030
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: you feel any of that? Oh wait, I'm your bigger sister,

1031
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: don't be honest. After every take, I would look to

1032
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: her and I'd go, be honest. The real truth is

1033
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: Aaron and I have actually only done one thing together.

1034
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: We did Barely Famous together. We're talking about the whole

1035
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: Instagram world. I mean, this is where you guys have

1036
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: become sort of the dynamics. We only have our platform

1037
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: because of our show we would have, but Instagram did

1038
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: change our careers as well because it's a platform that

1039
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: so many people pay attention to. So when you're instagramming,

1040
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: when you're doing these partnerships, I think what people don't

1041
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: know is that you're very involved in the creative where

1042
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: you create there. That's the only reason brands go. People

1043
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: don't know that we don't actually have that many followers.

1044
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: There are people that are a lot younger, more attractive, funnier,

1045
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: what more followers. But the truth is brands only come

1046
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: to us because we create the creative. We have to

1047
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: come up with a storyline, we have to learn it,

1048
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: we have to direct it. I mean, we have directors

1049
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: and people who help, but like cast, we have to

1050
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: create this world. And it's the same kind of thing

1051
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: that we did on our show, And it would be

1052
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: the same thing if it was like a union show

1053
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: on Fox or whatever. It would be Like, it's not

1054
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: that different. It's just short form and it's short term

1055
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: and the turnover is really quick. And so I think

1056
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: that like now we're in a place where we feel

1057
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: less shame around this idea that a big part of

1058
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: our career does come from Instagram. Yeah, and I also

1059
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: feel that Instagram does become almost a job in a

1060
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: sense because you're trying to think of original content. That's

1061
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: basically what it is. Well, it's just for me, it's

1062
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: just a it's an out let. Yeah, but look what's

1063
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: happened for you. But by the way, people are having

1064
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: you differently than they ever would have, they're really getting

1065
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: a window into what your your comedic weirdnesses. Yeah, unfortunately,

1066
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: most for most people, Instagram shows a side of you

1067
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: that people really don't like, not you people in general,

1068
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people become their worst selves with the

1069
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: outlet of being able to film themselves all the time,

1070
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: and it can bring out the worst in a lot

1071
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: of people, normal everyday dads out in the world that

1072
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: are like not actors, that are just going to work

1073
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: every day, and all of a sudden they think that

1074
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: they're like a fucking comedian and it's so embarrassing for

1075
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: people crazy. But I think in this room it has

1076
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: helped us a lot on our skills and I think

1077
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: it has shown a different side of you, Oliver. What

1078
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: are you looking forward to right now? For an immediate future,

1079
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Things you're working on, stuff to look out for, Like

1080
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: what is it that you're really excited about, other than

1081
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: of course that you're about to get married, and it's

1082
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: like all of our for this year, it's the most

1083
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: exciting time of your whole stick, which is your reality.

1084
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: But it's what you've sort of capitalized on. I think

1085
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: is this single vibe trying to find love? You know,

1086
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: so in one in one hand, it's amazing you're getting married,

1087
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: and in the other it's totally you're totally fucked. Truth.

1088
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: When I met Simon, I was like, my whole bit

1089
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: is being single, and so you're because he kept saying

1090
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: like I'm a private person and like, I don't want

1091
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: our relationship out there. And I was like, okay, well

1092
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: you have a choice. I can either continue to pretend

1093
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: to be single or I can switch my narrative and

1094
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: be like, act like the crazy girlfriend. And he didn't

1095
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: want me to act like I was single. He didn't

1096
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: like that, and so he has to let me sort

1097
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: of expose parts of our relationship because for whatever reason,

1098
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: like my access point and I learned this a long

1099
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: time ago when I started writing my blog, is that

1100
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: my superpower is relating to other women. My superpower is

1101
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: becoming every woman's experience, whether it's bad dates, getting engaged,

1102
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: being single, going through a breakup, having a sister that

1103
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: you want to be cool for, whatever, the thing is, Like,

1104
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: that's my superpower. And so that's the thing that I

1105
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: get excited about, is finding different ways to use that

1106
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: access point. And so now I'm the crazy girlfriend and

1107
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: or I'm the girl getting engaged that didn't think she

1108
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: was ever going to and now I'm like a psycho

1109
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: pride zella. And does he have to sort of curate

1110
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: your content? Does he ever look at it and say,

1111
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't want you to do that? Yeah, I'm out

1112
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: I did anything that you've posted, Yes' Simon is not

1113
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: a fan of me talking about ex boyfriends. I'm also

1114
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about it either my past. I've

1115
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 1: lived a life, I've had relationships, and so I can't.

1116
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: And my whole essence and being is about being open

1117
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: about my experiences. So you can't like censor that. And

1118
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: so I think that that is a struggle for us

1119
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 1: in the sense that he supports me being like an

1120
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: outspoken person and being candid all that, but it is

1121
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: to him. He comes from a culture that is much

1122
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: more private, that is much more protective of what happens

1123
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: at home, and it's been an adjustment period. It is

1124
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: interesting though, too, because I think ultimately you are really

1125
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: passionate about writing a book I am, which you will do,

1126
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: and it's going to be It's going to be interesting,

1127
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: you know how you navigate which you'll You'll have to

1128
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: think about it. What is But what kind of book?

1129
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: Tell all? Tell all about you and your brother? No,

1130
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: I want to write a I want to write a

1131
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: lot of books. I mean, I should have write a

1132
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: book ten years ago. I think that like me relating

1133
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: to other women is a huge part of like what

1134
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: I care about and talking about my experiences. And the

1135
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: thing is is that, like where what a big part

1136
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: of Simon and my relationship being special is how I

1137
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: got here and where I was before and me being

1138
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: a girl who never knew how to not be in

1139
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: a dysfunctional relationship and was only attracted to people who

1140
00:58:55,720 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: were abusive, and like finding a normal, good, decent person

1141
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: and that I love what seemed impossible, and the fact

1142
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: that I actually figured that out. I think a lot

1143
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: of women go, fuck, maybe I can figure that out,

1144
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: maybe I can stop my bad habits. So let's go

1145
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: back to what I said, what you guys have excited

1146
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: about it, and then you can say what you're excited

1147
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: for sure. So for me, I uh, I, it's just

1148
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: just career. What we're excited about your career or just

1149
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: your future. You know, I'm excited. We haven't even touched

1150
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: on the fact that Aaron and I are heads have

1151
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: created a Bumble, which is a tech company, which is

1152
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: a whole other We haven't even it's a whole other

1153
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: part of our story. But what that has done for

1154
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: us is that has put us into a conversation and

1155
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: put us into a space of investing, and that is

1156
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: something that I'd never have had the confidence to explore ever,

1157
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: And because of Bumble, it's put us in these rooms

1158
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: and at these tech conferences, and I now have the confidence,

1159
00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: and I think Aaron does as well, to explore that

1160
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: part of life. And so we're making investments and starting

1161
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: our own company. We're starting our own clothing line. We

1162
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: have this new overall at twentieth where they're really supporting

1163
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: us in development. So we have four shows in development

1164
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: that we're excited about, some that we're in, some that

1165
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: Aaron's writing that I have nothing to do with. We're

1166
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: toying with bringing back Barely Famous for a third season

1167
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: just for fun. Aaron does a lot of speaking things.

1168
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: We do speaking things together, she does them apart. But really,

1169
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: I guess I am land the plane. I don't know.

1170
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm excited about kind of all of it.

1171
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited that I'm excited. Flaps her up, Flaps are up,

1172
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: Flaps are up. My kids are getting older. I feel

1173
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: like I'm sort of coming out of that. They're turning

1174
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: four and nine, and I'm more focused on work than

1175
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: I've ever been. And what's your drive for it? What's

1176
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: driving that I think what's driving that is the concept

1177
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: of you know, going and just auditioning for someone else's material.

1178
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: It's something that doesn't even phaze me. Now that I've

1179
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: dipped my feet in developing something from the coming up

1180
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: with a seed and turning it into what it is,

1181
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: I now crave that. It's like realizing you can be

1182
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: in control of exactly. It doesn't even occur to me

1183
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: to join someone else's project. I don't care if it's

1184
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: going to take twenty goes. Like. I can't see myself

1185
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: participating in something that I'm not involved from the very beginning.

1186
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: And it excites me and it's it's truly what wakes

1187
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: me up in the morning. Aaron Aaron Foster. I'm excited

1188
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: about developing these TV shows and getting them on the air.

1189
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: And I'm excited also to get married and have kids

1190
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: and start that part of my life. Yeah, I know,

1191
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: it really is. It is. I really do think too,

1192
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: when Aaron and those kids, she's gonna have a kid

1193
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: for sure in twenty twenty. I already see what's happening.

1194
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: She's gonna be like, just leave me alone and with

1195
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 1: my kid. I'm like, bitch, get up. We have got

1196
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: to show up because I'm not so Oh, Aaron's like,

1197
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: you're so annoying every day. I'm honestly not as queer

1198
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: focused as Sarah. I now that's this is the truth.

1199
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm also also really excited to be an aunt to

1200
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: Aaron's kids. Oh that's nice too. That's a whole other

1201
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: How often do you see each other every day? Yeah?

1202
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: Who got on Instagram first? Aaron? Who has more Instagram followers? Aaron? Sarah?

1203
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: Now rude? Oli? Is this a sense? Does do you

1204
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: guys go back and forth about this? No? We always

1205
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: usually have pretty much the same amount. How many more

1206
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: do you have than that? I really don't know. You

1207
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: don't know, No, I never never that much more. Who's

1208
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: the better cook? You know? It's interesting. I would I

1209
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: would say me, but because I can cook more dishes.

1210
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: But I think Aaron is now entering into maybe taking

1211
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: that spot. She's like with her weird cookbooks and maybe

1212
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: really getting into the brisket. Aaron really embracing the tradition. Yeah,

1213
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: who's funnier? Aaron? Oh? Interesting? I think we are funny

1214
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: in different ways at different times. I would say I

1215
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: swear to God like and I wouldn't. I would be honest,

1216
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: I would I say that you guys are both You're

1217
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: so you're you're just so different? Who is so? Who's funny?

1218
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: On social media? Same? Well, I've kind of like borrowed

1219
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: from Aaron's whole bit. I sort of I don't want

1220
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: to say I stole. I mean I stole, but I

1221
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: kind of And and by the way, not just me,

1222
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of women who I'm

1223
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: not going to name, who have also kind of stolen

1224
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: her sort of self deprecating thing that she does. She

1225
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: was kind of doing it first, honestly imitations the Boddhist

1226
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: form of flutter yeah, one word to describe the other.

1227
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: Aaron loyal, motivated, nice? Who's more outgoing? Me? Sarah says

1228
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: Sarah well Er. We already know the answer to this.

1229
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: Who is late to things more often? Sarah Foster Sarah,

1230
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: that's true, Thank you, very can I also say I've

1231
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: been working on it. I've been working on it. By

1232
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: the way, you have been very on time lately. You

1233
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: have Who is or was a better rule follower? Aaron? Aaron? Aaron, Aaron, Aaron,

1234
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: I love rules? Who takes longer to get ready? Aaron?

1235
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: I think I leave the house with which surprising. It

1236
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: is surprising because Sarah is more vain than I am.

1237
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: But I get right, Sarah. You could admit that Sarah's

1238
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: more vain and I'll go to like a red carpet

1239
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: with no makeup. That's true. I will go to an

1240
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: event with wet hair and no makeup. I think this

1241
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: is why we were really close. We were always like

1242
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: we never and never time getting ready. Sarah and I

1243
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: we put on like slips and leave. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1244
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: Well I like this one. If you were casting someone

1245
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: as your sister, who would be who would play Sarah Foster?

1246
01:04:52,800 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: I know who? I think Leslie Bibb always get right.

1247
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: That's why I always get She's got runner. Who would

1248
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: be cast as Aaron Foster. It's a tough one, is

1249
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: a tough one. There is no other m Stone. Emma Stone,

1250
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: m Stone perfect okay, okay, but now we gotta we

1251
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: gotta get Sarah. Okay, So Emma Stone should be in

1252
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: a movie where no cool We just like couldn't come

1253
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: up with anyone from last word who gets the last

1254
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: word in an argument? Aaron who gets annoyed more easily,

1255
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: Aaron who borrows things from the other more Oh please,

1256
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't want anything of Aaron. She only borrows mine,

1257
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: It's true, not like trying to borrow her money. Money

1258
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: or fame money. I think we both choose money. I mean,

1259
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: fame seems it's pretty shit. Ay now, okay, I've got

1260
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: a great question. If you were running for office, I

1261
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: was just gonna ask this one. Would there be any skeletons?

1262
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: And what is the skeleton that your rail your campaign?

1263
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: It's so interesting because you know what's so interesting about

1264
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: all of us is we've never done drugs. Never actually

1265
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: did tchokout mushrooms recently. I really like that does not count.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't have never to cokekeletins in our closet. No,

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Speaker 1: do you want no prostitute. There's nothing that you would

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Speaker 1: do texting and driving. I've been in trouble for that

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Speaker 1: multiple times. Ship up that could take me down? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that they dig up pressed with digship up on you

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Speaker 1: and and and submarine. I think mine would be like

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Speaker 1: old tweets. So we do this thing at the end

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Speaker 1: of each podcast, and there's a ten thousand dollars charitable

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Speaker 1: donation to the charity of each other to dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we're asking everyone after this podcast basically who you

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Speaker 1: like more? Just generally, wait, what this is crazy and

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Speaker 1: we have to collectively agree on one you like? I say,

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Speaker 1: who do you think is like really showing up at

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Speaker 1: this podcast? It's just a feeling, you gotta It's just

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Speaker 1: an overall feeling. What I'm going to say is we

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Speaker 1: can't pick all because I'm going to pick it because

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Speaker 1: Kate and I have a more consistent relationship, and so

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Speaker 1: I have enjoyed my time with you in a new

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Speaker 1: way that surprised me. I have that I haven't had

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Speaker 1: with Kate. I'm sorry that I've had with Kate before,

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Speaker 1: so it didn't surprise me, but you're surprised. I feel

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Speaker 1: attracted to Aaron, like I feel like I knew it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we should have dated. Maybe I could.

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Speaker 1: I could tell while this was happening and Aaron was talking,

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Speaker 1: I could be like. Oliver was like, Aaron's really my

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Speaker 1: kind of girl. Yeah, she's smart, like a different kind

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Speaker 1: of a different kind of attention to the conversation. She said,

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Speaker 1: I think you're getting read that felt like happening. I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh God, as he's talking about me right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling myself get hot and red. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Simon's going to kill him. By the way, you're dead

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Speaker 1: in this You're dead. You're dead. The Russians coming was

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Speaker 1: a Russian moster. I want to say that Kate really

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Speaker 1: impressed me today because you always impressed me, Olie, But

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Speaker 1: I want to say that you are a really good interviewer.

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Speaker 1: You did not make it about you at all, And

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for someone like her where it is always

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Speaker 1: all about her forever since you're fucking sixteen. No, you guys,

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Speaker 1: she has been famous since she was She's been famous

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Speaker 1: since she because of me, because of Can let me

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Speaker 1: finish around all about her since she was six and

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Speaker 1: everyone has kissed her ass for her whole life, like

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Speaker 1: the sea's part for her because of Kate. Stop acting

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Speaker 1: like you're so shocked by But it's not like something

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Speaker 1: I demanded. I'm not saying you demanded. Just just le me.

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Speaker 1: You don't mind my life. It's my guy, My life passed.

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Speaker 1: It's it was your calling ever since you did that

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Speaker 1: in Style cover shoot with My Mom with Mom on

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Speaker 1: the Donkey, where she pretended like, well, I just got

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Speaker 1: home from school. You want to take my picture? I did.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm really pressed. I find that

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Speaker 1: for people that are interviewing other people, when they're people

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Speaker 1: like her, it's like kind of impossible not to make

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Speaker 1: it bring it always back around to yourself. When you're

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Speaker 1: someone like her. You did not talk about yourself or

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Speaker 1: your own experiences literally at all in the last four hours.

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Speaker 1: You really made it all about the people you were interviewing,

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Speaker 1: which is wild. You're really good at it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: impressed one for one, but I also would like to

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Speaker 1: compliment all of her, because like, you're funny on your

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Speaker 1: shows acting, but you're funny on your social media, and

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Speaker 1: you're funny in person, and you're the best. I love you.

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Speaker 1: Sibling Rivalry is executive produced by Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson,

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Speaker 1: and Simsarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnik. Editor is Josh Wendish.

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Speaker 1: Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mike.