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Speaker 1: and eighteen National Football League season. It is finally here.
Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend is over with, and it's week number
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Speaker 1: Bill Jones with Brian brought Us and Rob Phillips. Mickey
Speaker 1: Spagnola is out today and uh yeah, you're ready for
Speaker 1: some football this week? Yeah? I feel like that. You know,
Speaker 1: once the college game started kicking off and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: then you know the NFL season usually is right behind that,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I am ready. I think that when you
Speaker 1: look at training camps, when you look at how we
Speaker 1: got through that you look through the roster, the makeup
Speaker 1: of the roster, the waiver wire, all that stuff that
Speaker 1: you've had to do here the last that's really kind
Speaker 1: of where it's when I sat down and said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta start watching film the Carolina Panthers today. That's
Speaker 1: when it hits, right. It's Panthers week. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: get to watch Luke Keiklee and Cam Newton and Dj Moore,
Speaker 1: some of these guys I like to watch play football.
Speaker 1: It's time for your matchups on the website. It's been
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look forward to look forward to kind of talking about it,
Speaker 1: and you know, looking forward to getting the season starting.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the exciting thing. I think opening days
Speaker 1: are always great, whether you know baseball, football, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I'm a horse racing horse. Sure, I'll tell you. It's funny.
Speaker 1: I tell a real quick horses. Sure. I had a
Speaker 1: buddy at del Mar yesterday. And maybe I'm not supposed
Speaker 1: to say this because it's gambling. Horse racing is okay, right, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I can't bet on games. I can't bet on like
Speaker 1: our game. Buddy minds at del Mar and he he's
Speaker 1: he's screenshotting pictures of the form, the racing form. And
Speaker 1: I'm picking horses while I'm watching Bennett's practice, and I
Speaker 1: one like I one like thirty five bucks on two races.
Speaker 1: All right, they heard the head of fire or something there. Well,
Speaker 1: they had they had it something, you know, they had somebody.
Speaker 1: They had the gun go off. That's what it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was gunfire, gun fire, gun fire. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: del Mar, del Mar's beautiful track. Yeah, I've been so yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to make it back in the eighty when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were in thousand Oaks, went down to the
Speaker 1: Chargers camp in Lajoya, uh and we made it over
Speaker 1: to Delmar a couple of times a couple of years,
Speaker 1: and it fits perfectly. Of course, I know we got
Speaker 1: a football park. But I'm sorry, I just I was
Speaker 1: just sitting I saw horse racing with you all day long.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there watching. I was watching Bennett practice
Speaker 1: a little bit late in the day and and I'm like,
Speaker 1: but he's like, I'm at Delmar. I'm like, text me
Speaker 1: the race or sing. So I'd like three races. I
Speaker 1: sat there and made money just watching it. Been it win? No, Well,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't do it during a game, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I love I love hors. He wasn't doing it for Bennett.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, yea for Bennett's college fund. R Bene
Speaker 1: did better better, I better win more than that. And
Speaker 1: um and before we dive into the NFL, you mentioned
Speaker 1: college football. I'm here on September fourth, ready to make
Speaker 1: a prediction in the final four in college FOOTBA ball.
Speaker 1: It's Oklahoma, LSU, Texas, A and M and we'll throw
Speaker 1: in Alabama on that one man. Missouri's got a quarterback
Speaker 1: this year. We're gonna probably talk about it if they
Speaker 1: win this week. I have no idea. I thot they played,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't that be something they got a first
Speaker 1: round quarterback. Though, Missouri has got a first round quarterback,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure we'll talk about their guy a lot
Speaker 1: during the So anyway, that's my take takeaway. Thank you
Speaker 1: from the first weekend of college football. Appreciate in fact
Speaker 1: that's Lane Kiffin. By the way, he did say it
Speaker 1: was the best team he ever said. He'd be shocked
Speaker 1: if there's a better team in college football. Team, congrats
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, Now we got Chip Kelly and UCLA
Speaker 1: this week. All right, they let the Cowboys the other day.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have Ron Rivera and the Carolina Pan they
Speaker 1: do this week. All right, let's uh, let's get into
Speaker 1: this roster shakedown a little bit. I know, we had
Speaker 1: a show yesterday, not to exclusively a talking Cowboys show
Speaker 1: yesterday leading up to Jason Garrett's press conference. Check out
Speaker 1: what Garrett said at the at the press conference yesterday, Brian,
Speaker 1: you had a chance to assume maybe Rob too, and
Speaker 1: they walk off with the head coach so quickly. Just
Speaker 1: what's your takeaway now with the Dan Bailey Brett Maher
Speaker 1: kicking situation. You know, I feel like though that all
Speaker 1: the things, and I thought Garrett would be really vague
Speaker 1: in the way that he presented it to in front
Speaker 1: of the cameras. But I don't think he was vague.
Speaker 1: I think he I think he told you that there
Speaker 1: were several factors involved the fact that they felt like
Speaker 1: that he had kicked better than Bailey, and Bailey got
Speaker 1: limited opportunities, but they had practice and they felt like that, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, this is an opportunity and the chances that
Speaker 1: we gave him that he clearly showed up. And so
Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility, I mean, not a possible.
Speaker 1: I think that's a reason. I think the fact that
Speaker 1: the coaching staff maybe lost a little confidence in Dan Billy.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was what I was thinking going in
Speaker 1: and asking Garrett that question. He's saying, Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: that's part of it. You know, you want to feel
Speaker 1: good about you know, what's going on with your with
Speaker 1: your kickers or anyone of those players. You know, you
Speaker 1: want to have confidence in your players. And then also
Speaker 1: the money factor I think came in as well, so
Speaker 1: you know, all those things. Um, you know, Garrett could
Speaker 1: have came out there and he you know, he was
Speaker 1: very complimentary of Dan Billy, and he knew what Dan
Speaker 1: Billy meant to this organization. He knew what he meant
Speaker 1: to him, you know. But he's part of the decision
Speaker 1: making process, Jason Garrett. And and and this is one of
Speaker 1: those things where maybe we'll find out one day that
Speaker 1: some of these moves, the Dez Bryant move, the Dan
Speaker 1: Bailey move, maybe one day we'll find out that, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe Jason Garrett was leaning towards, Hey, I want to
Speaker 1: keep Dez Bryant. I wanted to keep Dan Bailey, you know,
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's going to be like a
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's an afterthought. But you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: I say the coaches have the head coach. Everyone I've
Speaker 1: ever been around here had a big stick in that
Speaker 1: personnel department. And you know, whether that's Dave Campo or
Speaker 1: you know, Chan Gailey. I saw a chan Gailey turnal
Speaker 1: way Randy Moss, you know, I watched him do it.
Speaker 1: And so I know I'm going long winded here, but
Speaker 1: you know this is this looked like a very difficult
Speaker 1: decision for Garrett, and I'm wondering if he was totally
Speaker 1: on board with it. But maybe they always look for
Speaker 1: a they always look for a consensus here, and that
Speaker 1: might be the way they win. But so many decisions
Speaker 1: just aren't cutting dry decisions. No, all right, yeah we're
Speaker 1: doing this for sure, they're right, yeah, right, And they
Speaker 1: admit that they could be wrong on it, but it
Speaker 1: could cost it could cost the head coach's job because
Speaker 1: all we if you ever looked at Jason Garrett's record
Speaker 1: and looked at the games he plays, and he doesn't either,
Speaker 1: he doesn't blow people out. He's in a lot of tight,
Speaker 1: tough games where he's having to make a decision whether
Speaker 1: it kick a field goal. There's a lot of close games,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna probably play in a lot of close
Speaker 1: games this year. If they're going to run the football,
Speaker 1: if the if the primary way of moving the ball
Speaker 1: and scoring is going to be running the football, they're
Speaker 1: going to be in a lot of tight games because
Speaker 1: this is really it's a passing league. And we'll see
Speaker 1: if they can pass. We know they can run, we'll
Speaker 1: see if they can pass. I might I might write
Speaker 1: about what you just said. That's a great point because
Speaker 1: and it goes back to coaches ten usually lean towards
Speaker 1: what they know and what they're comfort always, always, and
Speaker 1: this is a guy. Yeah, when you got inside thirty
Speaker 1: yards thirty five yard line, Bailey more than not was money. Now,
Speaker 1: he wasn't down the stretch. And I do think the
Speaker 1: organization they admit it's it's a risk what they're doing here. However,
Speaker 1: I think the rationale that they ultimately the decision they
Speaker 1: came to was we're gonna look at this objectively. Brett Maher,
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of us tracked his kicks
Speaker 1: throughout camp. We started watching him. That's a mistake on
Speaker 1: my part. And probably the whole media. Yeah, he kicked. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we all learned a lesson that maybe there
Speaker 1: is a competition and not not necessarily some jobs that
Speaker 1: appear to be safe, maybe they aren't safe, right, And
Speaker 1: I think they felt overall the numbers bore out mar
Speaker 1: One the competition. Now you have to factor in history
Speaker 1: as well. But like Brian said, there was concern there.
Speaker 1: Now Maher could go out and miss a couple kicks
Speaker 1: Sunday and they can second guess. But what if Bailey
Speaker 1: missed on Sunday and they were worried about his confidence
Speaker 1: to begin with, Then you second guess yourself that way
Speaker 1: and say we didn't trust our objective evaluation that this
Speaker 1: guy was better than our veteran. So they ultimately kind
Speaker 1: of took the jersey off and said, Okay, this guy
Speaker 1: was better. And then the other part of that is
Speaker 1: Brett Markers just made a fifty seven yard field goal
Speaker 1: in the last preseason game, and as we said on
Speaker 1: the TV broadcast, you probably said something similar on the
Speaker 1: radio broadcast, Brian, Well, other NFL teams just to that.
Speaker 1: Brad Sham and I went into a dissertation on why
Speaker 1: he will probably get another chance to kick for somebody else,
Speaker 1: Brad goes. Does he deserve an opportunity? I'm thinking, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at what he was able to kind of
Speaker 1: do in camp. You've seen what he was done with
Speaker 1: some of the games. He he'd have the blemish he
Speaker 1: had a miss in the forty nine Ers game that
Speaker 1: would have maybe put the Cowboys a little bit better
Speaker 1: position to trying. It was exactly it was, But you
Speaker 1: know that's those are the things you're thinking about. I mean,
Speaker 1: they put him out there with confidence, and to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm surprised Garrett put him out there
Speaker 1: with with for a fifty seven yard shot to be
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, and depending on what they're
Speaker 1: thinking was going into that. We were thinking, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were thinking emergency list guy. We were thinking workout guy.
Speaker 1: We were thinking everything a personnel man thinks of, but
Speaker 1: making a football team. You know what I was thinking
Speaker 1: this morning, though, I was thinking, okay, I was trying
Speaker 1: to remember play out this scenario leading up to that
Speaker 1: fifty seven yard or I was thinking the opposite of that.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were put trying to put him in position.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what the play call was on third down.
Speaker 1: But maybe they wanted Hiven go out there, let's see
Speaker 1: if you can make a fifty five yard or yeah.
Speaker 1: But even then it's like, Okay, great, he made a
Speaker 1: great kick. Maybe he's trade made over the weekend because
Speaker 1: we good about Dan Bailey. We don't need to see
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey kick. And ultimately it's like they wanted to
Speaker 1: see what this guy could do one more time before
Speaker 1: they bite the bullet. But also, okay, maybe they're leaning
Speaker 1: towards keeping Dan Bailey all right, and what are the
Speaker 1: chances Maher gets picked up by somebody else? If Bailey
Speaker 1: missed a field goal in Carolina, we would always fall
Speaker 1: back on Mahr sud on the practice squad and he
Speaker 1: makes the fifty seven yard or and they're thinking, you
Speaker 1: know what, he's probably gonna get picked up by somebody.
Speaker 1: We gotta make a decision me personally, and I get
Speaker 1: you know what they're at. And it might have been
Speaker 1: the decision that they couldn't afford to have Dan Bailey
Speaker 1: on the roster for three million dollars and then cut him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean that that Okay,
Speaker 1: now he's due. He's doing all his money after week
Speaker 1: one right, So you know, maybe that's a situation that
Speaker 1: they had to they had to look at it. It's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: nice to think about Maha on the practice squad, But
Speaker 1: what if Dan Bailey and week week two missus field goals.
Speaker 1: Now now you've got now you got him on the books,
Speaker 1: you know, because he is a vested veteran and you're
Speaker 1: you're responsible for his entire contract, and you know, then
Speaker 1: then it's a little bit more of a of a
Speaker 1: challenge to to cut him right there. So that's a
Speaker 1: good point. I just feel like I felt like all
Speaker 1: I did not feel like that Dan Bailey's job was
Speaker 1: in jeopardy until until those two days where we saw
Speaker 1: him struggle. When it went back to back days. I'm
Speaker 1: not maybe it's a bad way of saying it his
Speaker 1: job in jeopardy. I felt like that, Okay, now maybe
Speaker 1: we have to watch instead of going over there in
Speaker 1: bs and with somebody, you know during practice. Yeah, being
Speaker 1: practice time, we got to watch talking to the fans
Speaker 1: or whatever, I do, you know, visit with people. I
Speaker 1: feel like, now we've got to watch kicks. I remember
Speaker 1: Mickey and I with Mickey and I went and it's
Speaker 1: so funny. At the same time, we walked underneath the
Speaker 1: goal post and just stopped and looked up you know
Speaker 1: where I and I'm looked at him like you're here
Speaker 1: watching this kicker. Huh. He's like yeah, and I was
Speaker 1: in the same thing. I mean, you had to watch
Speaker 1: and see what was going on. After a few days,
Speaker 1: it kind of it kind of wore off. You moved on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you moved on. And I think maybe that's just shows
Speaker 1: you how great Dan Billy was at his job that
Speaker 1: after two days he just moved on. Well, in most
Speaker 1: past years, I don't know if we really charted him
Speaker 1: at camp. Now I did this year every time, especially
Speaker 1: after those two kicks. But I think he missed one
Speaker 1: kick after that two day stretch where he struggled, so
Speaker 1: it looked like he had righted himself. I thought he
Speaker 1: was striking the ball pretty well. But I wasn't paying
Speaker 1: close enough attention to this other guy who apparently really
Speaker 1: won their confidence over and the other guy Brett Maher.
Speaker 1: And that is how you pronounce it. According to the media,
Speaker 1: guy did is Mahr They her okay, and he has
Speaker 1: experienced in the Canadian Football League. And the other thing
Speaker 1: is he can also if something happened to Chris Jones,
Speaker 1: he can also punt, and of course he can kick
Speaker 1: off too. So anyway, he's your guy going to Carolina
Speaker 1: this week. Now. As far as other moves that have
Speaker 1: been made since we last convened and since the fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster was set, I liked. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a very shrewd move what they did. As far
Speaker 1: as the wide receivers are concerned, Yes, with Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: who had putting him on injured reserve after he was
Speaker 1: on the fifty three, now they can bring him back.
Speaker 1: After eight weeks they made they they had the market
Speaker 1: figured out on Deontay Thompson where they were able to
Speaker 1: bring him back and sign him. So now they had
Speaker 1: those wide receivers and really they could tell what the
Speaker 1: market was because of the interest that Deontay Thompson had
Speaker 1: in the presea in the off season because he did
Speaker 1: not sign for a huge amount of money, kind of
Speaker 1: had a sort of a semi breakout year last year,
Speaker 1: and so teams are usually overloaded at wide receivers, so
Speaker 1: he was still available and now you got both those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, the thing they didn't want
Speaker 1: to lose Brown, right, that was clear, you know that
Speaker 1: was And it gives you a guy now for the
Speaker 1: second half of the season, they give you exactly right,
Speaker 1: It gives you a guy. They'll work with him, he'll
Speaker 1: get in shape and by you know, we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens in week eight. I mean, it's still a receiving
Speaker 1: crew that there's a lot of questions about right now,
Speaker 1: and hey, week eight might be too late, it might not,
Speaker 1: but they you always have guys to get banged up
Speaker 1: during the season, and you know they've they've got that
Speaker 1: to kind of fall back on in case they need to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think ultimately receiver, they kept the five that we
Speaker 1: thought in camp were probably the most proven. Slash had
Speaker 1: the most potential with Michael Gallup as the third round pick,
Speaker 1: and I know Brian was banging his fist on the table. No.
Speaker 1: Six wide receivers, No. Seven wide receivers. Ultimately, they go
Speaker 1: light at running back and it allows you to get
Speaker 1: Rico Gathers on the fifty three and they just weren't
Speaker 1: going to give up the investment they'd made trying to
Speaker 1: develop him, and he showed enough to make it for now.
Speaker 1: Rico Gathers was a better player than Dalton Schultz. He
Speaker 1: was a better player there during and but you know,
Speaker 1: they're not going to give up on Dalton Schultz. And
Speaker 1: they shouldn't give up on Dalton Schultz. They should find
Speaker 1: a way to say, Okay, we need to get him stronger,
Speaker 1: we need to get him more reps. But Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: did not play as well as he had played at Stanford,
Speaker 1: and that that in itself, to me, was very disappointing.
Speaker 1: But Rico Gathers, I'm gonna say that he did deserve
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be on this football team. He put
Speaker 1: himself in consideration. He went from a player that nobody
Speaker 1: really wanted to deal with very much, you know, last year,
Speaker 1: I mean it seemed like that the coaching staff had
Speaker 1: their questions about him. And what happens you get new coaches,
Speaker 1: you know, new coaches rolled in and that might have
Speaker 1: been the best thing that ever happened to Rico Gathers.
Speaker 1: That opinions of former coaches go with their new teams
Speaker 1: and you have a fresh slate and a fresh opportunity
Speaker 1: to come in and try and make the football team.
Speaker 1: And he did. He was he was clearly you look
Speaker 1: at the plays he made. You look at now. Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett was very complimentary of his blocking. And I say
Speaker 1: this in a way that I understand where Jason Garrett's
Speaker 1: going here. Rico gathers at two hundred and eighty pounds
Speaker 1: when he gets in your way, when he's on a
Speaker 1: defensive end or a linebacker, is a hard guy. He
Speaker 1: can make mistakes. He can make mistakes as a blocker.
Speaker 1: He can't make mental mistakes, but he can make mistakes
Speaker 1: in technique because and one of the reasons, one of
Speaker 1: the examples that Garrett gave was Martellis Bennett, Right, Martellis
Speaker 1: Bennett was not a great technique blocker, but when he
Speaker 1: got that two hundred and eighty pound body moving, he
Speaker 1: was difficult. Once he was on you, he was difficult
Speaker 1: to get rid of. So you said, it's a matter
Speaker 1: of making sure you're in the right spot. That's true.
Speaker 1: That's the nuance of the BA. And that's a guy
Speaker 1: that hasn't played a ton of foot And it will be.
Speaker 1: And they're they're gonna dress. They're gonna dress three tight
Speaker 1: ends this week. And I wonder if the third time
Speaker 1: is interesting that one, or if the third tight end
Speaker 1: is going to be Rico Gathers instead of Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 1: That's where this is gonna The other two are gonna
Speaker 1: dress and that would be Swain and Jarwin. I wonder
Speaker 1: if the third tight end is going to be Rico Gathers,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to say this, I think there's a
Speaker 1: really good possibility it will be. And it may go
Speaker 1: week to week on that. And yes, and so if
Speaker 1: Rico depending on matchups or on development of Rico, if
Speaker 1: it depending on the game plan and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: if they if somebody's got a heavy sam lineback or
Speaker 1: they play with, or somebody's got a heavy defensive end,
Speaker 1: or they want to create opportunity there to get on
Speaker 1: the edge. But Rico Gathers. The only thing keeping Rico Gathers,
Speaker 1: and I'm just talking about the on the field stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the off the field stuff. The
Speaker 1: only thing keeping him from being the player that they
Speaker 1: want him to be is his ability to understand what
Speaker 1: he's got, his responsibility, his job. And there's been some
Speaker 1: signs where hot read or being where he needs to
Speaker 1: be on a certain call, or you see him playing
Speaker 1: second level. He's getting better at that. So If he
Speaker 1: can continue on that path, up Rico Gathers will be
Speaker 1: on your forty six every week. He's just too talent
Speaker 1: of a player. The problem is, though, he doesn't always
Speaker 1: know what he's doing, and that keeps him from being
Speaker 1: a guy you won on the forty six. All right,
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Speaker 1: I came very close to not surviving the weekend. That's
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Speaker 1: some friends of mine and we went over to my
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Speaker 1: had a near death experience. It was after that, not
Speaker 1: ladders and no, okay, all right, so we're just covered
Speaker 1: with plaster and paint and everything whatever. And so I
Speaker 1: got went home and I decided I'm getting in the pool, okay,
Speaker 1: to get all that stuff off me. I go to
Speaker 1: step into the pool. I step on the top step
Speaker 1: and it was slicker, and I'll get out. I slip.
Speaker 1: I fall to the side and I came. I guarantee
Speaker 1: you I came an entered two away from hitting my
Speaker 1: head on the side of that pool. I mean, I go,
Speaker 1: I fall and I'm still sore on the left side
Speaker 1: my knee, which has torn meniscus already, it was buckled
Speaker 1: under and I could just feel as I'm falling. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I just blew out my knee and now I'm thinking
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit my head. Whatever go right, And I
Speaker 1: just sat there. Afterwards, I went and I got a
Speaker 1: scrape on my elbow and that's it. I'm so lucky.
Speaker 1: But more than anything, what this brings to me to
Speaker 1: the talking cowboys in the NFL, is Okay, my knee
Speaker 1: was killing me immediately after that, my hip, my shoulder
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm thinking, I just got hit by a
Speaker 1: three hundred pound lineman. I mean, this is what these
Speaker 1: NFL players go through every single Sunday, and here it is.
Speaker 1: It got a little better yesterday and I feel fine today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can understand why and why you have a
Speaker 1: schedule now that gives them a day to recover on Monday,
Speaker 1: and they don't get back here until Tuesday after a
Speaker 1: game because you need that time. Of course, their bodies
Speaker 1: are thirty years younger than mine. But but anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you're all right. That's scary, man. I thought you
Speaker 1: were saying something with the plaster and it was, yeah,
Speaker 1: well no telling you about the asbestos had the mask
Speaker 1: and everything. So good for you. I mean I would
Speaker 1: have been anyway. I've been like, I have no mask
Speaker 1: and it got in my mouth or something like that,
Speaker 1: and then have been like really like sick. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a horrible experience. I'm still having a hard time
Speaker 1: getting over it. Anyway, all right, let's get to these
Speaker 1: new players. Ibraheim Campbell. Yes, what does he bring to
Speaker 1: the party. I'll tell you what with Campbell? And I
Speaker 1: was and it's up on Dallas Cowboys dot com the
Speaker 1: reports and stuff, and I really I was impressed. He
Speaker 1: saw him in the Cowboys game against the Texans the
Speaker 1: other day. He was around the ball. He is a
Speaker 1: fierce hitter. He's a wrap up tackle guy. He's a guy.
Speaker 1: It's five to eleven, about two hundred and fifteen pounds.
Speaker 1: He's got really a strong safety kind of a build.
Speaker 1: But they play him as really they'll play him down,
Speaker 1: but they'll also play him in that single high guy
Speaker 1: and you'll see him react. There was a play I remember,
Speaker 1: particular play when Gallup dropped the ball in the slant.
Speaker 1: He was coming fast to defend that play. So with Campbell,
Speaker 1: he's a he is a veteran guy. He has played
Speaker 1: in this league as far as he's made some starts.
Speaker 1: Was with Cleveland's drafted by Cleveland the fourth round. I
Speaker 1: do like his ability to tackle. I do like his
Speaker 1: ability to play physically. I do like the I do
Speaker 1: like the fact that you can play him down and
Speaker 1: you can play him back, and he seems to have
Speaker 1: that kind of flexibility to his game. He's not just
Speaker 1: a down guy, and I think that's something that they
Speaker 1: were kind of looking at. Can we get a guy
Speaker 1: that's just not a down guy? But here here he's
Speaker 1: he's got that ability to play in some coverage. He
Speaker 1: was having to cover some linebackers. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would put him in the slot like what they
Speaker 1: do with Xavier Woods. But I think there's some things
Speaker 1: that like what they do with Jeff Heath that play
Speaker 1: you know, they have to play Heath back, They could
Speaker 1: play him down, be a little bit interchangeable because you
Speaker 1: prefer to see Heath around the line of scrimmage. I would,
Speaker 1: because he's the way he reads things, and he's instinctive
Speaker 1: and he can he can him up and make plays.
Speaker 1: And now Cavon Frazier, we think he's gonna try to
Speaker 1: go week one, but at least this guy give you
Speaker 1: some versatility in case he misses some snaps. This this
Speaker 1: guy's a better. This guy's a better both physical players.
Speaker 1: But I think if you said who's a better tackler,
Speaker 1: I think Campbell's a better tackler than Frasier. And I
Speaker 1: think you could play him in more coverage situations than
Speaker 1: you can Frasier. Okay, So that that in itself, I
Speaker 1: think is a good thing. I'm all for if keeping
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods back and letting Jeff Heath played down underneath,
Speaker 1: because if I could get if I could get Heath,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and Shaun Lee all of the ball, one
Speaker 1: of those three is going to make a tackle. For me,
Speaker 1: So the more I don't want Jeff Heath playing, you know,
Speaker 1: in in so deep that he's everything is just run up,
Speaker 1: run up, run up, run up, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I want him around the ball where he can make
Speaker 1: some play. And when you look at Houston, they added
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew in the offseason. They also drafted Justin Reid,
Speaker 1: and so you can understand where Campbell he fell short
Speaker 1: in Houston. But there's an opportunity here and they signed.
Speaker 1: They signed the coup is that you told de coup Is.
Speaker 1: They already had Day coup on their roster, a day
Speaker 1: coup treston Day. Yeah, but I think he's on a
Speaker 1: Cowboys practice squad. Oh you're talking about Oh, you're talking
Speaker 1: about Day being Dallas. I thought, yeah, reports now that
Speaker 1: he's signing to the practice squad. Okay, okay, good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they go right, a little more depth there, yeah, a
Speaker 1: little bit more depth at the position and all that.
Speaker 1: So all right, how about these linemen. First you had
Speaker 1: Parker and we're hearing the pronunciation anger on E H
Speaker 1: I n G E R. Of course he went to
Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati, Parker Anger and Adam Redmond, Yes,
Speaker 1: and then anger. He's a guy I really liked what
Speaker 1: I saw. He was playing tackle at Kansas City, wasn't
Speaker 1: really playing the guard, but he's played both in his career.
Speaker 1: But I evaluated position. Yeah, I evaluate him as a
Speaker 1: right tackle. And I'll tell you what, though, there's there
Speaker 1: was things about I like the ability to finish. I
Speaker 1: think there were some things with him him where you
Speaker 1: at guard, I think it's a little bit easier for
Speaker 1: a tackle. His balance wasn't always good. H there was
Speaker 1: times where he'd have three or four plays where he
Speaker 1: was really good. You see him in position, position, position,
Speaker 1: and then it's at fifth play that all of a sudden, Oh,
Speaker 1: why's the head down? He's lungeon, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: But I feel like though if you put him inside,
Speaker 1: he's probably better suited than having to play out in space.
Speaker 1: He's athletic enough to do the stuff that they want
Speaker 1: to do with the polls and things like that. He
Speaker 1: could second level block, he could reach, he could scoop.
Speaker 1: Those are the things that they're going to ask him
Speaker 1: to do. I like the way that I mentioned. I
Speaker 1: like the way he finishes. I think that's a good
Speaker 1: thing for him. But yeah, he's got that ability. If
Speaker 1: they had to play him as an emergency tackle, I
Speaker 1: don't think you would be you know, to get out
Speaker 1: of a game. I think he could do it, but
Speaker 1: he's better suited to be playing guard, to play inside
Speaker 1: where he can where he can use more of his
Speaker 1: ability to get up on guys to day with guys.
Speaker 1: The sustain is really really good for him. So uh,
Speaker 1: he was he played as a rookie quite a bit
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs and then got a really bad knee injury.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think that's robbed him of
Speaker 1: any of his you know, quickness or speed or anything,
Speaker 1: or lateral slide or any of that stuff, but it's
Speaker 1: something you have to kind of keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: So if one of your tackles Missus snaps, you're going
Speaker 1: with Fleming as your swing tackle. Yeah, that's what it
Speaker 1: sounds like. If you in this game, they're going to
Speaker 1: try and get these two guys ready to roll, you
Speaker 1: know with And the thing I like about Redman is
Speaker 1: Redman's a scheme fit for him as well, because now
Speaker 1: here's the guy's And I always say this because when
Speaker 1: it pertains, if a guy has trouble extending, he's really
Speaker 1: kind of a billy to billy blocker. And I mean
Speaker 1: billy that's that's really a close guy. If you if
Speaker 1: you read me say, if you read that what I say,
Speaker 1: that means guy's getting real close. He's not able to
Speaker 1: really extend. And this is the thing I think with
Speaker 1: Redman that they like is the fact that he could
Speaker 1: get up on this guy. He's a better angle blocker,
Speaker 1: I mean angle like blocking back. He's not going to
Speaker 1: drive people off the ball. He's gonna get into his block.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hold on, he's gonna shield from the he's
Speaker 1: the ball, it's gonna go behind him. He's gonna make
Speaker 1: the defender run through him to get to the ball.
Speaker 1: And that's but I saw some things where again second
Speaker 1: level stuff that they do with Travis Frederick. Always talking
Speaker 1: about Frederick's ability to cut the defense in half. This
Speaker 1: guy could get up on the second level. Take some linebackers,
Speaker 1: give Ezekiel Eli, give the backs a little bit of
Speaker 1: a cutback lane if he had to play, and they
Speaker 1: pulled him quite a bit. He's a two hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety six pound guy, so he's the he's not a
Speaker 1: you know, he's built more like what you would see
Speaker 1: with Connor Williams. But you see the athletic ability, and
Speaker 1: I think that's why they went and guy, he's he's
Speaker 1: a better He's better than what they were gonna get
Speaker 1: with Marcus Martin. Marcus Martin was a big, boxy, square guy,
Speaker 1: powerful guy. I compared him to Ron Leary the way
Speaker 1: he looked, you know, when Ron Larry was big that way.
Speaker 1: This guy's not. This guy's more of an athlete. And
Speaker 1: I could see why because he's a better scheme fit
Speaker 1: because of the mobility. So they are better at backup
Speaker 1: offensive line. They are better now than what they want.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, because the whole idea was to try
Speaker 1: and find somebody that was better than than uh Kadeem Edward.
Speaker 1: It was the whole idea, ye know, find find you know,
Speaker 1: they went out and they got it some a couple
Speaker 1: of young guys that that have had some experience, have
Speaker 1: played some preseason games. You know, those are the kinds
Speaker 1: of things. I mean, that's what you want. You you
Speaker 1: talk about anger, he's he's a guy that's been you know,
Speaker 1: he's played. I mean, he's he's made some starts and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's what you want. You don't want to throw a
Speaker 1: Kadeem Edwards out there who hasn't had that experience and
Speaker 1: and he's not thirty years old. Exactly. This is not
Speaker 1: a band aid. It's not a band aid. This guy
Speaker 1: can legitimately play, and so you know, that's the whole idea.
Speaker 1: They've they've been chasing this, they've been chasing the swing guys,
Speaker 1: and now they lost their best swing guy. Because their
Speaker 1: best swing guys now having a place as a starting center,
Speaker 1: so right, you know, that's why they had to make
Speaker 1: the moves they did. They've they've gone out and tried
Speaker 1: to address the two spots they were most thin. We
Speaker 1: just talked about safety and interior offensive lines. So they've
Speaker 1: at least they've tried to upgrade there. We'll see if
Speaker 1: they if it works, if they have to use those guys.
Speaker 1: It sounds encouraging on Travis Frederick, although there's no timetable still,
Speaker 1: but obviously they feel optimistic that maybe he can get
Speaker 1: back within the next two months. The fact that he
Speaker 1: was not placed on IR after being on the obviously
Speaker 1: he's going to be on the fifty three to start
Speaker 1: because they want to keep that chance open. But even
Speaker 1: now here we sit on Tuesday and he hasn't been
Speaker 1: placed on IR. That gives you hope. That can't be
Speaker 1: the web blanket guy. Yeah, he Jerry Jones is gambling here.
Speaker 1: He's gambling. They don't know. They don't, right, they don't know,
Speaker 1: and and and in all honesty, I don't think Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick knows, right, and I don't think doctors don't know.
Speaker 1: But they're they're gambling that because Frederick. They're gambling on
Speaker 1: Frederick's ability to to to get you know, he's a
Speaker 1: professional athlete, to get himself in condition. The minute he
Speaker 1: could they say, you can start lifting, you could start
Speaker 1: doing all these things. Travis Frederick will be there twenty
Speaker 1: four hours a day trying to get himself ready to play.
Speaker 1: But they they, they are, they are, they are looking
Speaker 1: at a whole card right now, and they're not sure
Speaker 1: what that whole card is on the river, you know.
Speaker 1: And then I'm using poker terms, right, I got you.
Speaker 1: But they they're they're hoping, they're hoping that they draw
Speaker 1: the inside straight. Clar clarify for me the rule on
Speaker 1: injured reserve and returning from injured reserve. We see it
Speaker 1: is eight weeks from when you get placed on him reserve. Right,
Speaker 1: So there would be if you're sitting there thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: if the doctors say it's going to take some time
Speaker 1: to get his strength back, I mean best case scenario, right,
Speaker 1: best case scenario would be he's back in four weeks whatever.
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, there yet there, but they're there is a
Speaker 1: place somewhere in there where you would want to if
Speaker 1: you if it looks like it's gonna linger, if it
Speaker 1: if it looks like this is the gamble, this is
Speaker 1: the gamble. If he doesn't come back within eight weeks,
Speaker 1: you just you just you put him on ir you
Speaker 1: just go ahead and you just you just say he's done,
Speaker 1: he's the season. Yeah, it just gives you a window
Speaker 1: for a couple months and he can start practicing technically
Speaker 1: after six weeks, I believe. Yeah. But if you went
Speaker 1: ahead and did it now or next week or something,
Speaker 1: you get that eight week started, and now you know that,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But he could be available the
Speaker 1: last seven weeks. I'm saying, the longer you wait, the
Speaker 1: longer you're not gonna in that respect, you're well And
Speaker 1: like I said, I I've been from and I'm not
Speaker 1: betting against the guy, I'm not. I just because we
Speaker 1: don't know well and we don't know, and I haven't
Speaker 1: planned I mean, if I was a personal guy, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't plan on him playing. But you're but you're saying
Speaker 1: this same thing with Romo y his injury a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, and they went ahead and kept him
Speaker 1: on the fifty three. Right, A little different because that
Speaker 1: was a structural deal where you can kind of project Yeah.
Speaker 1: I will say this because to Brian's point, this is
Speaker 1: something they won't rush if he's not sure, because this
Speaker 1: is about his long term well being with his family
Speaker 1: and I you know, that's the most important thing. So
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to rush him back because
Speaker 1: he's starting to feel excuse me a little better. Um,
Speaker 1: But the reports they say are encouraged, right, it is,
Speaker 1: it is. That's good. I think the only two people
Speaker 1: that really know this situation well is Travis's doctor and Travis.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really really think, like the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: they have an idea of what but but they're they're there.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're flying blind, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things that we don't know, I mean, and gritting
Speaker 1: up on this apparent. Yeah, it's there's different severity, right,
Speaker 1: you know, right, and different happens different with different cases.
Speaker 1: And so if they've have been told, I would think
Speaker 1: that there is a chance he could be back within
Speaker 1: eight weeks. And so since there is a chance, they're
Speaker 1: not putting him on no, and there this is they're
Speaker 1: they're they're looking for the they're looking for the inside
Speaker 1: straight like I said, because if if he comes back,
Speaker 1: and if he comes back in five weeks, boy what
Speaker 1: a great move. He comes back in six weeks, boy
Speaker 1: what a great move. He comes back, and said, boy,
Speaker 1: what a great move. Now you're getting eight weeks he
Speaker 1: comes back. You're like, okay, well maybe you could have
Speaker 1: used the spot, but you know, it's still you kept him.
Speaker 1: You're you're just trying to your hope. You're you're playing
Speaker 1: with hope right now. It's what you're doing. And you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes hope is not a very good game plan. You know,
Speaker 1: hope is uh you know, but we'll see, but we
Speaker 1: all hope for the best. Yeah. Well, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, they there's some of the best, you know,
Speaker 1: best specialists in the world. They're dealing on this thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry Jones will not spare any expense to
Speaker 1: make sure, like you said, Rob, that this his life is,
Speaker 1: that Travis's life is okay, and and you know that
Speaker 1: they want to know. They'll do the best they can
Speaker 1: to know. Yeah, what I've heard about it, excuse me again,
Speaker 1: is that the treatment's help and then but some days
Speaker 1: can be better than others. Even after that, you can
Speaker 1: feel good one day and the next day. It's it's
Speaker 1: just it truly is a day to day proposition until
Speaker 1: the symptoms go away, and I think eventually, if you
Speaker 1: catch it early enough, it will. Now it's another thing
Speaker 1: to go up and play all pro level football after this.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with Brian that you just don't know.
Speaker 1: But I like that analogy you're just making. You're making
Speaker 1: a calculator, taking a calculator risk that you can get
Speaker 1: your all pro center back at some point. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 1: now I have a question for Blane. Yeah, go ahead, Um,
Speaker 1: I know they said I know that with that Bay release,
Speaker 1: the Coboy gave dremny of thars. I don't see why
Speaker 1: they're not going after old Thomas. Did you response to that? Well,
Speaker 1: because they have the extra money, that's why they're going there.
Speaker 1: Why they're not going after Old Thomas, that's the question,
Speaker 1: did he Yeah? It takes two to tang. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: if you've listened to me or follow me on Twitter
Speaker 1: or anything, I'm talking about John Snyder and I go
Speaker 1: way back. John was my intern at Green Bay, so
Speaker 1: I know John. But this is one of those things
Speaker 1: that John will not talk to me about because but
Speaker 1: I know why he's doing this. He's not giving this
Speaker 1: guy up because it sets a bad presence in his
Speaker 1: locker room. He doesn't want guys John Gruden gave up.
Speaker 1: I mean, John grew knew he couldn't sign Khalil Mack,
Speaker 1: so he just gave up on it. He took what
Speaker 1: he can get. John doesn't feel that way. I know John.
Speaker 1: John does not feel like he does not want players
Speaker 1: coming in and demanding to be traded and all that.
Speaker 1: You know, I do know for a fact, and talking
Speaker 1: to somebody other than John Snyder. When Earl Thomas went
Speaker 1: and made that little jaunt to the Cowboy locker room.
Speaker 1: John Snyder was ready to get rid of Earl Thomas
Speaker 1: at that point, and Pete Carroll told him, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not going to do this. We're not going to
Speaker 1: do this. But now I heard that from some other
Speaker 1: Seattle folks. So, but John is not ready to trade
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, you know. But it's also in a situation
Speaker 1: too where the minute he is then he needs to
Speaker 1: call Dallas, and Dallas either needs to say yes, we
Speaker 1: can do this or no, we can't do this. You know.
Speaker 1: But they've they've had some conversations. They had conversations during
Speaker 1: the draft. They had they had conversations. When Dallas went
Speaker 1: on the clock at fifty we were here in this
Speaker 1: room draft show. I was thinking they were talking about
Speaker 1: a possibly of a safety. You know, we were the
Speaker 1: kid more. We were talking about him from Southern Missile.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna take this guy here. It's good opportunity
Speaker 1: to grabbing safety. We were thinking about a safety, but
Speaker 1: we were thinking about the wrong safety Stephen Jones was
Speaker 1: on the phone for an extensive period of time talking
Speaker 1: about but they were going to take That's what they
Speaker 1: took Connor Williams. So there see, I don't. I know
Speaker 1: that Seattle is not ready to trade him. Just talking
Speaker 1: everybody but John and I know that Dallas will listen
Speaker 1: once Seattle makes that move. But there's no reason and
Speaker 1: Dallas is not gonna say, okay, we'll go take off
Speaker 1: your hands. Once Seattle makes a call, then you can
Speaker 1: be able to negotiate with Seattle. That's where that's where
Speaker 1: this is going to come down to. I've said this
Speaker 1: all along. It's you've got to have the other team
Speaker 1: be willing to trade the guy, you know, But Seattle,
Speaker 1: I'm also might be putting putting out feelers out there
Speaker 1: saying we want a first round pick, which they're not
Speaker 1: going to get. Wow. Yeah, you know they're not going
Speaker 1: to get that. So I don't it's it's not it.
Speaker 1: This isn't The ball is not in the Cowboys core.
Speaker 1: The ball is in the Seattle Seahawks court. Like the
Speaker 1: caller asked about money, cap space is not an issue.
Speaker 1: They're like they had cap space before the release Dan
Speaker 1: twenty million under the cap right now. Yeah, they're doing fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's now. There were the Dan Bailey release and that
Speaker 1: three and a half million dollars if they want to
Speaker 1: extend guys, if they want money available. Yeah, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: talked about that this point year. Then that gives him
Speaker 1: three and a half more million dollars to use. They
Speaker 1: have line. Jerry Jones brought it up this morning on
Speaker 1: one oh five three the Fan. He said, you know,
Speaker 1: because the question was asked, do you use the money
Speaker 1: now or do you save the money, And you know,
Speaker 1: he says, Hey, we've got some guys coming up that
Speaker 1: we have to think about. We have some hefty contracts
Speaker 1: looking you know, you talk about with what if DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence has another great year, you know, Dak Prescott, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big contract if he has a gran
Speaker 1: Jones Yeah. I mean they've got guys that young players
Speaker 1: that they want to try and extend and keep here.
Speaker 1: So I know, again the Earl Thomas stuff. When when
Speaker 1: Seattle has had enough, that's when you're gonna have an opportunity,
Speaker 1: because that will be the best time to deal with Seattle.
Speaker 1: That's when Seattle will say, Okay, we will take whatever
Speaker 1: your best offer is. And the Cowboys might not offer
Speaker 1: the best deal. Let's be let's be real, honest, about this.
Speaker 1: John Snyder doesn't owe it to him to trade him
Speaker 1: to Dallas. He can trade him wherever he feels like
Speaker 1: he could get the best offer f him. That's his job.
Speaker 1: In fact, he probably does not want to send him
Speaker 1: to Dallas. Yeah yeah, yeah, A because Dallas is in
Speaker 1: their conference. B because that's what Earl Thomas. But it's
Speaker 1: his job to get the best offers. And if Dallas
Speaker 1: offers the best package to get Earl Thomas, then you'll
Speaker 1: see Earl Thomas being trade. But until Seattle is ready
Speaker 1: to trade him, we're just we're just starting today it now.
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas now gets hit in the pocket book, Yeah
Speaker 1: he does. But in what happens when those fines and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, when they come back, Mysteriously, some team
Speaker 1: just goes, oh, we forgot about the fines. All right,
Speaker 1: We'll forget about the fines if you come back. If
Speaker 1: you come back, we'll just forget about the finals, that's
Speaker 1: all right. Uh. And Rob Wilson on Twitter, he tweets
Speaker 1: at me at CBS eleven Bill Jones, glad you're okay,
Speaker 1: but why the pool and not the shower on my
Speaker 1: little incident fir point day and that smart man. The
Speaker 1: reason the pool and not the shower is my wife
Speaker 1: would let me in the house with plaster all over me.
Speaker 1: So I had to get to this about the host.
Speaker 1: How about back in the day building you ever grow up?
Speaker 1: Your mom took outside. Actually, I had already used the
Speaker 1: garden host and didn't get every garden, so I decided
Speaker 1: I needed to do fully immersed myself. There you go,
Speaker 1: I got a little more than I bargained for. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to Phil and Louisiana next up. I'm talking cowboys, Phil,
Speaker 1: Morning guys, and Hey Brian. I just wanted to tell
Speaker 1: you I took your advice and I'm gonna be fifty
Speaker 1: get to the point here, Okay, talk to you. It
Speaker 1: was about Travis Frederick and GM bray. Yeah. I want
Speaker 1: to offer an opinion, albeit about his condition. I want
Speaker 1: to be encouraging. It's anecdotal, but based on my dad's
Speaker 1: experience with it, don't believe Travis Frederick will be out
Speaker 1: eight weeks. The very idea that he was walking around
Speaker 1: very soon after the diagnosis and the visual treatments was
Speaker 1: pretty encouraging to me. If he's got his energy and
Speaker 1: it has enough energy to come out stand up for
Speaker 1: a few hours at the game. All these things he's doing,
Speaker 1: then that tells me what's what's he's dealing with now
Speaker 1: is the latent or the hidden effects of the disease,
Speaker 1: not the actual overt things like you know, a loss
Speaker 1: of muscular use or things of that nature. But I
Speaker 1: just feel like if he goes for I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll go for but I don't surely
Speaker 1: don't think he'll go eight. But we don't know his
Speaker 1: strength levels. We we don't know. We don't know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really appreciate you making this call. I
Speaker 1: know you went through it with your family and all that,
Speaker 1: but this these cases, I mean, we don't know his
Speaker 1: strength level. I mean he could look good walking around
Speaker 1: and all that, but we don't know his strength. Love,
Speaker 1: we don't know how much strength he lost. I mean,
Speaker 1: he could be down fifty percent from his strength levels,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he's gonna have to build all
Speaker 1: that back up. So I'm you know, for for us,
Speaker 1: you know, and I keep saying this. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: saying it that you know, this is this is something,
Speaker 1: this is we're sailing like, you know, we're Columbus. The
Speaker 1: need of the pine and the Santa Maria. We're we're
Speaker 1: trying to find land right now, you know, Brian, I
Speaker 1: can tell you this, it's very worse. It just totally
Speaker 1: drops the person there. Sure, but but but again, we
Speaker 1: don't know his strength levels. This is a professional athlete, okay,
Speaker 1: And and and that's where and again I appreciate your
Speaker 1: insight knowledge on this, but we don't know. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: we he could look fine walking around. He's a professional athlete.
Speaker 1: It's a good point you just made. There's two sides
Speaker 1: to it, right, he's a professional athlete, finally tuned athlete,
Speaker 1: young man, can you would think conceivably recover fairly quickly
Speaker 1: if it's caught quickly, right, right, But he's also in
Speaker 1: a profession that you gotta line up and against three
Speaker 1: hundred pound guys, he's not good. Who does Carolina have
Speaker 1: lining up over the center this week? That frigging don
Speaker 1: Terry Pop Terry Bot? Who did the Giants have the yeas? Yeah? Snacks? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So who eats centers for snacks? That's right, So that's
Speaker 1: what you're going up against him. By the way, Phil,
Speaker 1: I really appreciate our word of the day today. Pithy.
Speaker 1: I like that word. He said he was gonna be pithy.
Speaker 1: You know what pithy means. I had to look it
Speaker 1: up myself. I've heard it in a phrase of pithy comments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so well, that's exactly the way it's used. Apple would
Speaker 1: be pithy would be concise and forcefully expressive, which is
Speaker 1: exactly the way Brian brought us. Wants all of our
Speaker 1: callers to be right, and I would agree. If we
Speaker 1: want to be we want you to be pithy with
Speaker 1: your question, not pissy. We want to be Okay, that's new.
Speaker 1: I thought pithy meant like smartass, but pithy is consticking
Speaker 1: to the point and forcefully expressing. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: mean no disrespect to him, No, no, I mean I
Speaker 1: I just we don't know the strength level of this
Speaker 1: of Frederick, We really don't. I mean, he could be
Speaker 1: way down until until you get to start lifting. All
Speaker 1: of us who are watching the early days of training
Speaker 1: camp looked at Travis and there were some one on
Speaker 1: one battles where he did not look as strong as
Speaker 1: what has been in the past. Right, And I say
Speaker 1: that based on his statement that he released at the
Speaker 1: time that he was. It was announced that he was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with this, he said over the last four weeks.
Speaker 1: I think it was something that he had been dealing
Speaker 1: with since the start a training game. And we thought
Speaker 1: they were stingers because usually when you have that stinger
Speaker 1: issue in your neck and shoulder lack of string, it's
Speaker 1: a strength issue. And that's what someone asked me. A
Speaker 1: friend of mine asked me, well, didn't he get hit?
Speaker 1: And that was when Antoine Woods and him got into
Speaker 1: the little breakas whatever. Woods became a player all the same, right,
Speaker 1: and and we'll go we'll look at it. We'll look
Speaker 1: back at Antoine woods career and think back to that
Speaker 1: movement in Oxnard. That's how you get invest in Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick there and all of a sudden he went dad.
Speaker 1: He went from the all pro tackle fourth string to
Speaker 1: first string. It one fell swoop, one fell swipe of
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick's jaw. All right, uh, Cowboys report back today
Speaker 1: after the long weekend. What do you think those players
Speaker 1: would think? It is they hit the star today. This
Speaker 1: is it's time, It's go time. Yeah. I think that
Speaker 1: you know, with the players, the coaches, you know they'll
Speaker 1: come in they'll have the run. Now, now is when
Speaker 1: the routine begins. You know, this is now for the
Speaker 1: next seventeen weeks. You get into a routine. You get
Speaker 1: into a routine of you know, when you come in,
Speaker 1: when you lift, when you meet, when you eat, when
Speaker 1: you meet, when you practice, when you you know, you
Speaker 1: do your own work on the side. You know, Sean
Speaker 1: Lee and those guys, and hopefully these young guys will
Speaker 1: fall along some of the leads that you know, they
Speaker 1: have guys working and getting ready, you know for these games.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a strange thing. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know this better than most that
Speaker 1: you it's week one and then the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: you'll wake up and it's week seven. I was just thinking,
Speaker 1: it happens fast. It happens really fast. And but this
Speaker 1: is where you know, you go to Carolina and I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say this. They have got to find a
Speaker 1: way if they want to be a playoff team. Not
Speaker 1: only you think about what you have to do in
Speaker 1: your own division, which will be very difficult in itself.
Speaker 1: You cannot go and be one in three against the
Speaker 1: NFC South. Those are the teams you are battling for
Speaker 1: if you if even if you're in a even if
Speaker 1: you're in a wild card spot, you were battling those teams.
Speaker 1: I mean they put three teams last year in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You now you got to think about the teams, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean you're in a battle with Seattle probably depend
Speaker 1: on what the Rams do you play them. You cannot
Speaker 1: go out and give these games away. You cannot go
Speaker 1: out and be one and three against How about the
Speaker 1: first four games of this season? Well, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: think about it. If you look at it, there's another
Speaker 1: team you think about. Detroit is the fourth team in
Speaker 1: the in the in the way it is. I just
Speaker 1: think I just think the I think a lot will
Speaker 1: hinge on this, on this NFC North, I mean this
Speaker 1: NFC South. I just don't. You just can't go through
Speaker 1: and be one and three against these guys, because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when they line them up
Speaker 1: in December, they're gonna say, oh wait, Falcons were one
Speaker 1: game better than you. Now they get to go play
Speaker 1: you know, they get to go play a wild card
Speaker 1: game against the Rams, and then what they do. They
Speaker 1: beat the Rams and then they turn out now they're
Speaker 1: playing against the Eagles, and there were one really bad
Speaker 1: play call away from being in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1: So you cannot, you cannot go out there and just
Speaker 1: and give these games away. You gotta be ready, You
Speaker 1: gotta get out of the blocks. Is Carolina game is
Speaker 1: really huge, and not only to start the season, but
Speaker 1: also to find a way to keep Carolina behind you
Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt because you, yeah, your point is
Speaker 1: head to head tiebreakers when it comes down to December.
Speaker 1: And Bill, you talked about the first four games. Look
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks. They're facing Cam Newton, Eli Manning with
Speaker 1: maybe a better cast around him and better running game
Speaker 1: for better running game for sure, Russ Wilson and Matt Stafford.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about how good this defense has looked.
Speaker 1: They may have to carry things this first month and
Speaker 1: at least keep things interesting for the offense. And then
Speaker 1: you look at the second four. I mean, yeah, you
Speaker 1: go to week five and you've got three AFC South
Speaker 1: teams in that second quarter of the season at Houston
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville, and you got atwashing to split there. Somehow.
Speaker 1: You got to find a way to maybe go win
Speaker 1: a game at Houston or take care of Jacksonville at home.
Speaker 1: Those are two potential. You could say what you want
Speaker 1: about Houston, but we saw them the other day. I
Speaker 1: know that was a lot of their backups and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Plan that's a good roster though, that's a
Speaker 1: really good roster. And and and the fact we didn't yeah,
Speaker 1: and we didn't even get to see Watson, you know,
Speaker 1: the quarterback there. I mean he could be a very
Speaker 1: nineteen touchdown passes in six starts last year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they were averaging like forty points a game back
Speaker 1: to back. That's two back to back defenses right there.
Speaker 1: That are going to be if they're healthy. If they're healthy,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yes, I just I there's the schedule has
Speaker 1: got a lot of those. You just can't ride the
Speaker 1: roller coaster here. You can't afford to just trade games
Speaker 1: up and down, up and down, up and down. Can't
Speaker 1: do that. You gotta find a way. When they won,
Speaker 1: when they won that eleven straight games in a row,
Speaker 1: well they do they FC North, which I thought was
Speaker 1: gonna be really, really difficult. And they also swept the
Speaker 1: NFC North if you remember Green Bay to Troy also
Speaker 1: swept all the road games. Yeah. Yeah, so there's no excuse.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to be a thirteen not
Speaker 1: not to say the Cowboys are going to be or
Speaker 1: need even but to win the division. But to win
Speaker 1: the division, you gotta go on the road and win.
Speaker 1: You've got to go in the road. And it starts
Speaker 1: at Carolina this weekend. Right, you probably need ten wins.
Speaker 1: I need ten wins to get in the playoffs this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so, and I think these first four games are
Speaker 1: so important and so don't get behind the eighth. See,
Speaker 1: this is where this is where you know when I
Speaker 1: don't like it when fans say this, I hate the
Speaker 1: must win game. This is a must win game, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all must win because you only play sixteen. That's
Speaker 1: why it's the beauty of the NFL. Every game is
Speaker 1: must win. They must win against Carolina. They must People say, oh,
Speaker 1: you can't go through life like that. Yeah, I can,
Speaker 1: because they're only sixteen of these things. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, there's not Major League Baseball can't
Speaker 1: rest guys too. You can't cannibal sixteen days. You cannot
Speaker 1: afford a four game losing streak in the NFL. You
Speaker 1: do that, you're gonna you're not gonna be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Two you go and two you start over. Do the
Speaker 1: research on how many teams will the four game losing streak.
Speaker 1: Ye have made it even to the playoffs much less.
Speaker 1: I think it's San Diego like in ninety eight. Start seriously,
Speaker 1: I think I think they were one of the few.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't happen. You've but these these games are
Speaker 1: all must win, and I've I've always treated him that way,
Speaker 1: always treat him that way. All right, how does it
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