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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up Straight Fire?

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Speaker 3: Baam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Wednesday Tip

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Speaker 3: Tip and Way Fourth. Changing up the pot a little

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Speaker 3: bit today. Just we've got on NFL heavy and honestly,

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Speaker 3: I need a little reboot, a reset, if you will,

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Speaker 3: after just getting my teeth kicked in. So we're doing

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Speaker 3: a heavy on the college football, especially with the college

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Speaker 3: football weekend ahead. Gosh, guys, there's like five amazing matchups,

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Speaker 3: led of course by Oregon visiting Happy Valley for a

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Speaker 3: white out at Penn State. You get Alabama, Clemson, I'm sorry, Alabama, Georgia,

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Speaker 3: Clemson has a big game again because they're all big

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Speaker 3: for Dabbo. But I did want to bring in Dan Wilkin.

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Speaker 3: He recently moved from USA Today to Yahoo. He's got

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Speaker 3: some interesting stuff, some interesting takes. Sounds like Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: could be in in for a coaching change. Obviously not

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Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman, but I would you know, if you're watching

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Speaker 3: the Iris closely, you know their defensive coordinator may be

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Speaker 3: looking for work soon. But besides that, like I gotta

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Speaker 3: be honest, it's great stuff, great intel, some actionable gambling Info.

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Speaker 2: I'm reluctant to get on.

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Speaker 3: The ducks, but I just can't quit Dan Land him

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Speaker 3: and that guy is so good. Anyways, without further ado,

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Speaker 3: here's Dan Wilkin Y'ahoo sports.

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Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think

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Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want.

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't, he knows the guy who does.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 3: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight fire. I guess

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Speaker 2: you know. But he's got a new address.

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Speaker 3: Dan Wolkin used to be USA Today he's moved to

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Speaker 3: Yahoo Sports, one of the seismic.

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Speaker 2: College football media moves over the summer. Dan, how you doing, man?

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Yahoo is I mean it's an interesting outlet. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Dan Wetzel had been there, and WOJ and I knew

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys had been there. There's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of change. What prompted the move for you yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know, really just Yahoo reached out to me this summer. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: Wetzel went to ESPN earlier in the year and that

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Speaker 5: created an opening and they were trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: what they wanted to do, and you know, I was interested.

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Speaker 5: I'd been at USA Today for a long time, almost

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Speaker 5: thirteen years, wow. And you know, so after that long

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Speaker 5: you are kind of comfortable, but you're also.

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Speaker 4: Like, am I too comfortable? Do I? You know, should

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Speaker 4: I go look at something else?

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Speaker 5: But obviously, when you're in USA today, there's not a

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Speaker 5: lot of you know, comparable outlets anymore, just in terms

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Speaker 5: of the platform, in the scope of it. So I

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Speaker 5: was super interested. I've known all those guys you mentioned

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Speaker 5: who've been at Yahoo over the years, friends of mine.

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Speaker 5: They spoke very highly of their experience. Ross Dollinger I've

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Speaker 5: I think the top news breaker in college football right now,

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Speaker 4: A good platform.

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Speaker 5: It's a good fit for me. Culturally, and I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like college football is a huge focus

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Speaker 3: of theirs and this weekend we wanted to have you

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Speaker 3: on obviously because you're plugged in. But this weekend there's

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Speaker 3: so many great games. But I do want to start

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Speaker 3: with the big news. Mike Gundy ousted at Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 3: I guess it had been trending this way for a while,

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Speaker 3: but I was still surprised to see it happen in September.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of a combatant individual. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Like is this a good job?

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Speaker 5: So I guess I'll just start with the timing, and

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Speaker 5: as we're recording it, have not heard yet from Mike.

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Speaker 4: Or really the school.

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Speaker 4: How do you handle that? It's tricky.

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Speaker 5: He did a press conference on Monday saying he intended

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Speaker 5: to coach out the rest of his contract. So what

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Speaker 5: good bad, whatever, always interest, always good content. And I

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody in the country could have could

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Speaker 5: interesting to see what they do. I think it's a

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Speaker 5: different job now. It's a tougher job in some ways.

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Speaker 5: For one thing, T Boon Pickens isn't alive anymore.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 5: He was kind of the sugar daddy of that whole

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Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's a tough ass.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, whenever you're hiring a coach someplace for the

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Speaker 5: The other factor here, I think they're ads on thin

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Speaker 5: But there's gonna be a lot of questions asked about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is this even like a good job or is

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Speaker 3: this a stepping stone to a.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to sound like elitists, but it

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Speaker 5: Maybe not quite all of them, because there's probably still

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Speaker 5: the Big ten. Now, we'll see how this looks when

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Speaker 5: the College Football Playoff is a twelve team or a

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Speaker 5: sixteen team entity.

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Speaker 4: However that works. We'll see what that does for those schools.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's certainly a world where it's just easier

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Speaker 4: That's more attractive. I just don't think we haven'tough data

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the ACC so why don't we dive into it?

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Speaker 3: Dabo Sweeney is.

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Speaker 2: He hun thin? Ice? I know the buy out.

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Speaker 3: I think I saw numbers like sixty million or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But he feels like he's headed toward Mike gundy Land.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they got a loaded team. We had multiple

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Speaker 3: Clemson team. Oh they're gonna have like five guys drafted

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Speaker 3: in the top sixty club Nick is awesome.

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Speaker 2: They're garbages here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't mean to take a dump on Clemson,

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Speaker 3: but Dad, they've been terrible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody really can quite put their finger on why.

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Speaker 5: I have my own theories, which I think is a

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Speaker 5: little bit of just staleness overall in the program, and

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Speaker 5: that's parts of the top two with Dabo. Offensively, I

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Speaker 5: But are we seeing Garrett Riley's offense or are we

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Speaker 5: I think that's a huge question, a huge problem in

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Speaker 5: something they need to figure out. I think that the

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Speaker 5: finally realize, hey, I can't be this defiant. I won

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Speaker 5: two championships ten years ago. Guy, he's got to own this.

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Speaker 5: He's got to figure it out. They're not gonna fire him,

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Speaker 4: Think he's gonna leave.

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Speaker 4: But I just don't think that's realistic. I think he's

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Speaker 5: Just having to walk away. Well, we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 5: But they're definitely, uh, they've definitely got a lot.

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Speaker 4: To figure out. Because that you're right, they are bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean time Dan when he was dominating, and he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he played there.

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Speaker 2: That's out the window, right, there's no shot at that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to ever say never.

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Speaker 5: We'll see what happens with Alabama this season, and I'm

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Speaker 5: sure we'll talk about the game they've got coming up

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Speaker 5: this weekend. But yeah, there's a scenario I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: it's likely, but certainly possible where Kaylen de Bor just gets.

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Speaker 4: Up in leaves whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?

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Speaker 2: Hold on? What do he gets up?

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Speaker 3: At least he doesn't want to do with the message

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Speaker 4: Well let me just throw this out there for you.

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Speaker 5: UCLA has got an opening. He's worked it on the

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Speaker 5: West coast, Fresno State, Washington. What if u CLA said, hey, listen, man,

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Speaker 5: do you really like Alabama? We can pay you, you know,

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Speaker 5: nine to ten million a year to be out of here.

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Speaker 2: Wait can they afford that?

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Speaker 4: I've been told yes, yeah, I've been told.

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Speaker 5: I've been told that they they have at least put

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Speaker 5: out feelers to people in that price range.

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Speaker 4: We'll see where that goes. I think there's a long

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Speaker 5: Exactly where UCLA fits in the pecking order, and there's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a lot more jobs open. I'm just throwing

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Speaker 5: out a scenario like Kaylin de Borr, there's a safe

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure that he would wear that any better

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Speaker 4: Probably a whole lot worse because it's ten times more intense.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: It's a good test for both teams. You know, I

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Speaker 3: Ohio State travels to Husky Stadium. They are Washington's undefeated.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even realize that Ohio State eight and a

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, I think it could be.

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Speaker 5: We learned a few things about Ohio State and that opener,

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Speaker 5: We'll see how they handle it. I really don't have

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Speaker 3: In a game where I'm as the kids like to say,

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Speaker 5: Rose Well, I don't know about that, but I do

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Speaker 4: Their defense has not been very good this year. Arkansas

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Speaker 5: There's gonna be a lot of points scored in that game,

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Speaker 4: But I think that's the disappointment.

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Speaker 5: You started to hear some questions this week about is

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Speaker 4: They've lost two games by four points, so I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: All Right, the two big games, Let's start with Georgia Alabama.

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Speaker 3: It's in Georgia. The spread is small, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm nervous for Alabama and Kaylen Doors, especially with what

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Speaker 2: For the u c l A job. I don't just

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Speaker 5: Let me just be clear, I am not sourcing that.

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Speaker 5: And maybe Alabama just is the team that people thought

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Speaker 4: Time will tell.

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Speaker 5: The interesting part of this is Kirby Smart has an incredible,

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Speaker 4: They lost last year to the debor team.

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Speaker 5: So that's interesting my people at Georgia. The narrative that

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Speaker 5: They're just not playing as well defensively as as people thought.

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Speaker 5: Some would say now that nil and everybody can pay players,

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Speaker 4: Historically, it's the kind of setup that Georgia.

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Speaker 4: But we got to find out.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they they you know, they won that game

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Speaker 4: And yeah, this is a it's I'm fascinated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is that the game you're gonna be at or

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you're at Atlanta, guy.

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Speaker 5: I live in Atlanta, so easy drive for me. And

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Speaker 3: Sorry Oklahoma State fans.

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Speaker 2: I am curious. This is a tough spot for the

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Speaker 3: Well young I think he's like twenty one going to

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Speaker 4: You know, everybody wanted him.

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Speaker 4: You know, for him, it was just a bad deal,

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Speaker 5: He leaves, he has the benefit of going to Oregon,

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Speaker 4: And he did that, and I think he's better for it.

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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens in this road test. Pence date.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean, that doesn't mean.

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Speaker 3: It won't Dan forty six eleven thirty four six. Now

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Speaker 3: they they've played basically the Sisters of the Blind.

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Speaker 5: So far, there's been a lot of garbage time points

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Speaker 5: there where where you know, I I know, I understand

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Speaker 5: the numbers, but I'm just saying that's why I said,

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Speaker 5: eye Test.

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Speaker 2: This is why we bring you on because I test.

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Speaker 4: Eye Test has been just okay.

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Speaker 5: So again, how do you gauge that when when the

448
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Speaker 5: team doesn't have to play well to win, We'll see

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Speaker 5: they will have to play.

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Speaker 4: Well against Oregon. I mean, I'm just to the.

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Speaker 5: Point with Oregon, with Dan Lanning that, like, I'm just

452
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Speaker 5: always gonna think they're good. They have incredible talent, they

453
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Speaker 5: have been, you know, awesome in it, and Landing is

454
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Speaker 5: a kick ass football coach, like he just is. I

455
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Speaker 5: have some issues with some of his gambles and game

456
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Speaker 5: management stuff, but in terms of preparing and motivating, he's

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Speaker 5: top tier. So they're gonna be ready to play and

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Speaker 5: I'm sure they're going to be good.

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Speaker 2: You think they could pull the upset here?

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, I can will put you on the spot.

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Speaker 3: Would you take him here? I mean the lines up,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm going to I'm gonna take Oregon

463
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Speaker 3: in this game. I think Oregon went straight up coaching

464
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Speaker 3: mismatch just huge. I'm sorry, James Fans, I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 3: in these big games against top ten teams, the numbers

466
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Speaker 3: don't lie. He's I don't know if he's like one

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Speaker 3: in seventeen or something crazy, but it's not great.

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Speaker 5: There's all kinds of things we could talk about there.

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Speaker 5: You know, he gets real weird. It's a game management issue.

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Speaker 5: He gets really weird.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what some of the stuff he did in that.

472
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Speaker 5: Quarter far the semi final game last year against Notre

473
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Speaker 5: Dame was bananas, just absolutely bananas.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what what it is. I really don't know, Like.

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Speaker 5: If he just has this sort of like weird philosophical

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Speaker 5: thing that he can't shake loose of, or if he

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Speaker 5: just kind of goes in and it's all feel what

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Speaker 5: does he really believe in as a coach when it.

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Speaker 4: Comes to some of these decisions. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I really don't know. I don't mean, I mean, he's

481
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Speaker 5: not a bad coach. You don't win as much as

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Speaker 5: he's won if you're a bad coach. But when but

483
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Speaker 5: you know, every game is going to come down to

484
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Speaker 5: three or four play calls, you know, and he just makes.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the wrong ones.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the these are the numbers.

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Speaker 3: So James Franklin against top five teams, now, I think

488
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Speaker 3: this is all of his head coaching spots.

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Speaker 2: One in eighteen against top five teams.

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Speaker 3: Now it's not just Penn State, it's the previous stop

491
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Speaker 3: as well, four and twenty five against top ten teams.

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Speaker 2: So historically when.

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Speaker 3: He has to step up in class, he just has

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Speaker 3: it delivered. Now he's got he's got good players. Who

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Speaker 3: has a better roster?

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Speaker 2: You think Oregon or Penn State?

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Speaker 5: I would say overall, maybe the Oregon has more talent, Okay,

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Speaker 5: but you know, at Penn State, I mean they've really

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Speaker 5: developed guys. I mean they have guys who've been in

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Speaker 5: the program for a long time, and they have a

501
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Speaker 5: good mix of talent and experience at Penn State. But

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Speaker 5: I would just say raw talent, Like who's gonna have

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Speaker 5: more dudes in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Probably Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: I Actually we can wrap up with some breaking news.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've got a text about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but John Mattier surgery on his right hand for the

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Speaker 3: According to Pat Forty, Mattier is gonna need surgery, is

510
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Speaker 3: going to be out for some time.

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Speaker 2: That's not great.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if you have any initial

513
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Speaker 3: reaction because he's been playing great.

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Speaker 5: The reaction is is he going to be backed by

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Speaker 5: the Texas game? And that's that's October tenth. Yeah, so

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Speaker 5: you know, so you've got you know, you've got a

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Speaker 5: little time. You know, you've got seventeen days. Is that

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Speaker 5: enough time for him to be back and to be

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Speaker 5: up to speed? That that's an unknown, right, and and

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Speaker 5: we're probably not gonna have all the information about exactly

521
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Speaker 5: the extent of the injury or exactly what the rehab

522
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Speaker 5: is going to be. You know, if I'm Oklahoma, I'm

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Speaker 5: probably just from a psychological standpoint like playing this as

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Speaker 5: if he's not gonna play against Texas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, you know, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I really don't know.

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Speaker 5: Obviously changes changes everything if he can't play now, I

528
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Speaker 5: don't really I'm not well versed.

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Speaker 4: In the Oklahoma backup quarterback situation. Maybe the next.

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Speaker 5: Couple of weeks, well we'll learn a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: But it's unfortunate, you know, not that Materi was like

532
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Speaker 5: a heisman guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's he was a heisman.

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Speaker 4: I'm not buying that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good player and he's helped them, but

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Speaker 4: I don't think like I think they're good beyond him.

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Speaker 4: I think Oklahoma's good beyond him. But I was.

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Speaker 5: Really looking forward to red because I want to see

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Speaker 5: arch Manning how he handles you know, what looks like

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Speaker 5: to my eye, a real Brent Venables defense, the kind

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Speaker 5: of vintage Brent Venables defense we saw at Clemson, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I want to see him play against that type

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Speaker 4: of defense.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, conversely, Texas's defense is really good too,

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Speaker 5: Like that's an old school physical football game, and Red

547
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Speaker 5: River always has stuff that happens that you never quite

548
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Speaker 5: expect and you can't really predict. But when you're talking

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Speaker 5: about two should be you know, top five or top

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Speaker 5: ten teams coming into that game, it's special. And so

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Speaker 5: I hope it doesn't diminish that because of an injury.

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Speaker 2: That would be unfortunate, that would stinky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on the whole Heisman thing from

554
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Speaker 3: a tier, like we're at the stage where the gamble

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Speaker 3: the gambling shops essentially are like, oh, that guy had

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Speaker 3: a great game, let's make a nice and favorite to

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Speaker 3: get some bets.

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Speaker 2: You know, it feels a little goofy.

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Speaker 3: All right, Dan Wolkin Yahoo Sports obviously follow him, check

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Speaker 3: out his stuff, Enjoy Georgia Alabama. That'll be that'll be

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Speaker 3: interesting this weekend. I'll go ahead and take Alabama on

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Speaker 3: an upset.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I like Alabama on the road and I like Oregon

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Speaker 3: on the road to two road dogs fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great. Athens is a great place to see

567
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Speaker 4: game if you if you haven't been before, it's it's

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Speaker 4: it's special.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, buddy, Thanks