Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh, I see you my why and
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding
Speaker 1: dong last culture calling? Look at us tenors tenor too?
Speaker 1: You shut up. I can't do tenor one now it's honey.
Speaker 1: I think you have the vocal power that no one
Speaker 1: understands like who, like whom? Do I have the vocal
Speaker 1: power Freddie Mercury himself? I believe that you possess the
Speaker 1: vocals of the legend known as Freddie Mercury. Do you
Speaker 1: have such a high voice? But you know I don't
Speaker 1: have my going from voice to falsetto insane man, you
Speaker 1: mean going from chest to falsetto chest to have his
Speaker 1: female specifict So so women don't have falsettos. They have
Speaker 1: head voice and chest voice. I know that this is
Speaker 1: all for the listeners because I know that. Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course I've and then um for man, it's oh. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the chest voice equivalent is. It might
Speaker 1: just be chest belly massio falsetto. No, not not real
Speaker 1: belli massio falsetto abarriciozzacio from the stomach they call Liza
Speaker 1: was named after the men's stomach voice. Um. Now, bless her.
Speaker 1: I think you know what. I was bucketed as a
Speaker 1: bass in high school? How dare they was that because
Speaker 1: you were doing mass drug and talk. I really wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was fully I was fully up, up up, and
Speaker 1: they made you sing bass. And some fucking dude, what
Speaker 1: was his name? Say it? Well, my well, my cat's
Speaker 1: name is Michael Grant and he's wonderful. But there's there
Speaker 1: was this gran or Grant, my Grant, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: there was this other man named raw his literal name
Speaker 1: is robbed Low, and he was this, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he was just like I have a crush on that. No,
Speaker 1: he because because I have a cus on that you
Speaker 1: want to And I don't mean to shame him on
Speaker 1: his looks, but he actually, well actually I do mean
Speaker 1: to shame him on his looks because he sucked. Wow.
Speaker 1: Of course should be absolutely and so he well know,
Speaker 1: he was just like this like hippie in his sixties
Speaker 1: who was mean and rude, and he one time a
Speaker 1: hippie and the hippie in his sixties who was mean
Speaker 1: and rude, and he um. So he would sometimes he
Speaker 1: would be the accompanist for the musicals and then one
Speaker 1: day the stage lights are on. We were doing a
Speaker 1: tech week and the lights were on, and he just
Speaker 1: had done something the night before. Clear they had been
Speaker 1: on some drug, was hungover, and he just We're in
Speaker 1: the middle of like warm ups and scales and then
Speaker 1: he just turns to the tech booth and stops and
Speaker 1: he goes, can someone turn these goddamn lights down? So
Speaker 1: he was a shitty person. Abuse such abuse, that is
Speaker 1: such abuse anyway, So he's so he's doing scales and
Speaker 1: I guess in the placement examle of choir, he like,
Speaker 1: I couldn't hit a D of the third CR. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's horrible at his job. If he's calling you a
Speaker 1: bass because honey, tenor tenor one? Think you about tender one,
Speaker 1: tenor one? What do they call a super high tenor counter? Yeah?
Speaker 1: M hmmm, what are you bitch? Should we find out
Speaker 1: right now? Okay? So that's famously your voice? Okay, can
Speaker 1: we stop what you're finding out? What my thing is?
Speaker 1: Really quickly? Unfortunately, the fortunate that there's a ratio on
Speaker 1: the pod. Get you go, come on, scale up to
Speaker 1: the highest note. Hai hai, I have the results. I
Speaker 1: have the results. I have the results. I have the result,
Speaker 1: what's the result, cat Rogers counter contralto, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm a counter conto. To be here
Speaker 1: feels amazing. I joined the likes of Freddie Mercury and
Speaker 1: oh Ricky Martin. Ricky Martin, she bangs more like she
Speaker 1: sings well. Listen, talk about people that do things well,
Speaker 1: talk about multitalent. I would describe this person's performance capabilities
Speaker 1: as volcanic volcanic. I would say that watching this person
Speaker 1: perform is incredible. You know why? It's volcanic? What why?
Speaker 1: Hot and gorgeous and it and it creates fertile ground
Speaker 1: for other things. So yes, volcanic ash soil. Can I
Speaker 1: say yes? And and yes and improv We love her,
Speaker 1: I love her improblem yes, and we love her improv
Speaker 1: and she loves doing it well known improviser to No,
Speaker 1: it's amazing and no. Can I say this, Let me
Speaker 1: say this, Give me the room, give me the space.
Speaker 1: This would be forever the episode where you sang instead
Speaker 1: of me, you really truly took that from me? You
Speaker 1: would go okay. So there was a hot moment in
Speaker 1: time where I was obsessed, um obsessed in a new
Speaker 1: way with this performer because I've always been a fan.
Speaker 1: And then I went to the Bongo Hour. Do you
Speaker 1: know the Bungo Hour. I'm a fan of the Bongo Hour.
Speaker 1: I live for the bar. The Bongo Hour is Peter Smith,
Speaker 1: Sandy Honig, and Ben Moss and I had been going
Speaker 1: to Bongo Hour consecutively because I was so obsessed because
Speaker 1: I felt that it was unlike any other variety show
Speaker 1: and the performances is that Sandy would do. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was I was doing with Dave a lot,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that is a star, true star?
Speaker 1: Did you but you didn't think this? No? I always
Speaker 1: thought this, But then I was like, oh, it's on
Speaker 1: the next level. It's like that thing where it's like
Speaker 1: you always knew the person was good, but you didn't
Speaker 1: know they were, Like what the fun? But the moment, though,
Speaker 1: was Carnegie Hall. I love got to talk about because
Speaker 1: Carnegie Hall. I think three busy DeBras, that's Carnegie Hall.
Speaker 1: Hello sounds this sounds so fucking gross of me to
Speaker 1: say I haven't even heard it yet, but we will believe,
Speaker 1: we will be talking about that Carnegie Hall show. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be three years to come. For years. I think
Speaker 1: we know, truly, I think we will that it was
Speaker 1: like moment, gorgeous, iconic moment in the community, in the community,
Speaker 1: which it is, which is which is tight. Everyone's best friends,
Speaker 1: everyone's best friends in this community. I actually don't have
Speaker 1: a non be I don't have any enemies. Think they're
Speaker 1: all my best friends. Um, but truly never talked a
Speaker 1: word of about anyone. Um. Now she is pig Free
Speaker 1: show every Tuesday at the Slipper. Can you believe free? Free?
Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't hear free, I said free. I think
Speaker 1: they heard a lot of people think nothing's well, nothing's free.
Speaker 1: There's there's no there's no there's no free lunch. There's
Speaker 1: no such thing as a free lunch. Will bitch? This
Speaker 1: is free? This is she hosted with Peter Smith. Peter
Speaker 1: Smith also incredible photographer. I mean, yeah, Ricky macdays. Oh,
Speaker 1: I loved her stuff back in Ricky mcdays multi talented.
Speaker 1: I would call this person and stay with me here,
Speaker 1: a multi hyphen multi hyphen it. And she's exhausting and
Speaker 1: she's exhausting now and also um one of the hosts
Speaker 1: and panelists of Vice Live. Yeah, and we will get
Speaker 1: into it. On Rest in Peace. Vice alright, p Vice life.
Speaker 1: She actually has an amazing you. She got to have
Speaker 1: a view moment where she was like, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about that. To me that anytime you
Speaker 1: get to annancially leaving something on TV, it is my dream.
Speaker 1: She to be like, that's my last day. It's much in.
Speaker 1: It's my dream. It's my dream to be like, after
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts and prayer and counsel from God,
Speaker 1: I've decided that I'm leaving the view. And if one goes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, not even like what it's just like because
Speaker 1: it's understood that if you're on the food, you will
Speaker 1: leave the view. Yes, anyway, what can we say? What
Speaker 1: can we say? Please? Welcome into your ears, Sandy. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was the greatest introduction I've ever gotten. I could
Speaker 1: have just just sit there and just let you guys, No,
Speaker 1: no way, You're in this. Now. Here's the thing you
Speaker 1: are deserving of the interest. It's too kind, it's not
Speaker 1: we've loved you for for literal years. I think, what
Speaker 1: if we don't each other for nine years? Some capacity?
Speaker 1: It might be I lived in New York for eight years,
Speaker 1: so I can't believe I've known you since before that
Speaker 1: because I'm right, I mean I met you and you
Speaker 1: actually might be right because I came to visit my
Speaker 1: brother at n y U and he brought me. I
Speaker 1: didn't go to my Hammercats show, but I went to
Speaker 1: a Hammercats party that was after a show, and I
Speaker 1: remember him. I remember meeting Sudi, and I think I
Speaker 1: met you as well. I'm studio and I were very
Speaker 1: much that I was, I was around it, I was.
Speaker 1: We talked about this today. I was always at the
Speaker 1: shows and at the parties because I was like the
Speaker 1: number one fan but one was always but would always
Speaker 1: come to the sketches. I would always go to the
Speaker 1: that that little bubble can I say, I'm gonna fucking
Speaker 1: say something crazy. But Hammercats and Danger Box danger Boxes
Speaker 1: the improv group Hammercats with the sketch group at the time,
Speaker 1: these were the two groups, and there was tension my
Speaker 1: freshman year between the groups. I love for whatever and
Speaker 1: I was in Danger Box. He was the improv boy.
Speaker 1: But yes, yes, and improv all around town. And then
Speaker 1: I would and then I credit myself and Nicole and
Speaker 1: like the generation that came up and like Sudie and
Speaker 1: Allison and you, which are are little coterie. We fucking
Speaker 1: started to rebuild the bridges. You reached across the aisle.
Speaker 1: Had you had an eve piser Berry weis moment. She
Speaker 1: had no cultural references. She sits her down and she said,
Speaker 1: by the way, I have no cultural offensives. Well we're
Speaker 1: talking about college improv and she says the words Perry
Speaker 1: and you guys reached across the ail. You wrote an
Speaker 1: OpEd about it, and actually friends because we talk to
Speaker 1: each other on the internet. Shut the funk up, both
Speaker 1: of you. I don't know what's important. You did right
Speaker 1: on the Vice Show. She she's nice, She's she's very nice.
Speaker 1: It just was a very funny moment to like read
Speaker 1: this article which it was like, can you believe too
Speaker 1: rich New York liberal Jews could be friends. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is crazy, even the like socialist versus like centrist,
Speaker 1: but you're still liberal and you agree. But it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we couldn't be more different, and like the centrist the
Speaker 1: centrist one is gay and it's like whatever, But she's
Speaker 1: Bill Mars, you know, protect. She's just always like on
Speaker 1: the show being like the me too movement has gone
Speaker 1: too far. Yeah, I feel that's her genuine belief. You
Speaker 1: know what, But the mee has gone here, she goes,
Speaker 1: it's gone too far, and Sandy is, guess what liberal Jewish?
Speaker 1: That the third finger? And that's that's that's how he sees.
Speaker 1: What more is there? When I hear how Jewish I am?
Speaker 1: I literally really just came here on the subway from
Speaker 1: Fiddler around the roof in Yiddish. But they had said,
Speaker 1: but Jake was telling me the subtitles were on the screen, Yes, subtitles.
Speaker 1: But I didn't need him. But I don't speak I
Speaker 1: don't speak Yiddish, but I've seen the play so many
Speaker 1: times and I get the little I get the little words,
Speaker 1: you know, I get little words coming in a little words.
Speaker 1: The weirdest one was there's a song in the have
Speaker 1: you seen? It's been a long time since I've seen Fiddler,
Speaker 1: but I saw a high school production of it. I
Speaker 1: guess that was good? You know what? How was the
Speaker 1: firm as Sara from As sarah Um was over the top,
Speaker 1: which I think was perfect? And quickly I will say
Speaker 1: my favorite Fara story is Amanda Shacksman. What was the
Speaker 1: what's the wife's name? Golden? So she was there's a
Speaker 1: scene where like Golda is like singing and in the
Speaker 1: back from Sarah is like doing something. And in this production,
Speaker 1: for Messara was on a high ladder. She's got to
Speaker 1: be tall, so she was on a very high ladder
Speaker 1: and the ladder fell over and Sarah came plumbing to
Speaker 1: the ground. Kind of man that's just kept going. She no,
Speaker 1: she was gold and behind her from Sarah had plummeted
Speaker 1: because it was a high school prorection, which didn't make
Speaker 1: it safe for the kid the ladder. That seems really
Speaker 1: ill advised to have like a costume that covers a letder,
Speaker 1: so it's aladder of falls. You're just trapped on the ladder.
Speaker 1: Actually one second, one second. Junior year of high school,
Speaker 1: Miss Lisa Wood did a production of Your Naming Names
Speaker 1: of Barnum and No, she actually scarred me creatively, and
Speaker 1: I truly resent her to this day and I don't
Speaker 1: care if she listens. Um. She decided it was a
Speaker 1: good idea. It was it was Barnum, it was circus themed.
Speaker 1: It was basically the greatest Showman been bad Um Wait wait,
Speaker 1: wait that backup. He just said it's like the greatest
Speaker 1: Showman was bad. No, stop. I'm gonna stock up for
Speaker 1: the greatest Showman. I'm surely there's like there's like a
Speaker 1: legion of people out there who fucking love that money.
Speaker 1: It's just like crazy. I didn't I like, before watching,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that like I could be me. And
Speaker 1: it took someone to say this is me sharpest though.
Speaker 1: I had been looking for a way to say this
Speaker 1: is me, and then it really gave me the vocabulary.
Speaker 1: And when the sharpest words trying to cut me down, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to send the flood drown them out. This
Speaker 1: is bold, this is rave, this is who I meant.
Speaker 1: This is honestly. The whole thing was a Fragrance commercial,
Speaker 1: and I love any movie that's a fragrance commercial. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I love Okay, So the people going to at the
Speaker 1: stay or lest my my, my great aunt was talking
Speaker 1: about it. She kept accidentally doing commercials. She was talking
Speaker 1: about because her last name was Honig. It's not anymore.
Speaker 1: But you know, before she got married and she said
Speaker 1: that she only drives Honda's. She'll never straight from the
Speaker 1: handa because she goes. When I get behind the wheel
Speaker 1: and I see that, h I just feel great. I
Speaker 1: love the way it looks. I love looking at the
Speaker 1: h I just feel great. And I was like, we
Speaker 1: should just film this and send it to Honda. Feel great.
Speaker 1: I look at that h and I feel amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's speaking to everyone there. Oh my god. Why And
Speaker 1: that's the thing is, it's like, what why actors with
Speaker 1: commercial auditioning. It's like, none of us can do this
Speaker 1: as good as real people. You want us to be
Speaker 1: real people anyway to get one exactly. There are some
Speaker 1: I know so many people who could make a killing
Speaker 1: in commercial editioning and they don't even know it, don't
Speaker 1: even know. Charismatic people who actually have real skills, who
Speaker 1: outside of performance, who are out there to they could
Speaker 1: make a killing in commercials and they don't know. They
Speaker 1: don't know. I interrupted, you know. The quick thing is
Speaker 1: she did. It was one dance and she decides to
Speaker 1: have these ladders where one person would stand in the
Speaker 1: middle and be the hub basically and spin a ladder
Speaker 1: and the others and then we would have to jump
Speaker 1: up and down and literally like I fell on one
Speaker 1: of the ladders as it was coming to me and
Speaker 1: like I injured myself and then the woman kicks me
Speaker 1: out of the show. Because I didn't give a show
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I don't like being here,
Speaker 1: and she actually like whatever. She we've told this story
Speaker 1: and you've gone into a great deal tail and she
Speaker 1: wasn't the wrong as the adult in the room. And
Speaker 1: guess what if you're an adult, if you're doing with
Speaker 1: the high school student, you are wrong with my high
Speaker 1: school drama teacher. And I wasn't even in any of
Speaker 1: the place. He just hated me and he would not
Speaker 1: cast me in any of the place. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: He just hated me. When okay, so just and I
Speaker 1: will say again, it's actually a rule of culture number fourteen.
Speaker 1: If you were a high school teacher in a feud
Speaker 1: with the student culture. But looking back, looking back, can
Speaker 1: you understand can you see the other side? Are you like? No?
Speaker 1: I truly when I I was not in any of
Speaker 1: the shows. What did he have against me? And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what he had against me. I know
Speaker 1: what he had against me. It's because I was elected
Speaker 1: to the drama board without having been in any shows.
Speaker 1: You were that powerful. I just they elected me to
Speaker 1: the board. I don't remember what I did board board
Speaker 1: of the drama club and he was like the teacher
Speaker 1: in charge of it, and he was so mad that
Speaker 1: I was on it without having been in any of
Speaker 1: the show. He didn't play ball. I didn't play ball,
Speaker 1: So then anytime I auditioned, he didn't give it to me.
Speaker 1: And that's politics. And I think he, well, there's a
Speaker 1: glimpse into the industry right there at the gates gatekeepers.
Speaker 1: Gatekeeper to know I'm hunting to the gatekeepers. They shape
Speaker 1: shift and you'll see them a million different times in
Speaker 1: a million different ways. Yes, but I gotta say, if
Speaker 1: you're if you have your New York accent, but you're
Speaker 1: just like if you're a high school teacher, you and
Speaker 1: you have ladders in your fucking production, you're busted. I
Speaker 1: see you. We're gonna kill those kids. To kill those
Speaker 1: those kids are gonna be dead, and blood's gonna be
Speaker 1: on your hands, and you're gonna say say goodbye. It
Speaker 1: for for a Sarah. But Sarah were like from a
Speaker 1: no head because she fell over a fucking head, came
Speaker 1: off a ladder, was in this strong speed. No, it's original,
Speaker 1: it's me and my family talks. Actually, this is actually
Speaker 1: or this is actually a racer. This is a racer
Speaker 1: and yeah, this is a this is a racer, Sandy,
Speaker 1: talk about your final episode advice line. Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: so I also love that, like I banged the table,
Speaker 1: I so let me just see. Sorry, I can't stop
Speaker 1: because I like the way it's verb river Honestly, it
Speaker 1: gives it a dramatic attention. I love any story of
Speaker 1: someone leaving a show publicly, so please so for the fans.
Speaker 1: Vice Live was a weekly, sorry nightly show, four nights
Speaker 1: a week. When it first started, it was two hours long,
Speaker 1: four nights a week, psychotics. For three weeks we did
Speaker 1: it two hours a night, and then they reduced it
Speaker 1: to an hour, and then I think altogether we did
Speaker 1: seven weeks on the air before I left, and I
Speaker 1: added in my contract that I could leave for another
Speaker 1: for the Debra's show, for the Debra's if the show
Speaker 1: got picked up. And then they picked us up. So
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, which we love, which we love and
Speaker 1: deserved and iconic, pretty busy, Yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, Okay, I gotta leave, I
Speaker 1: gotta go, and the it was very funny. Actually, the
Speaker 1: producer in charge was like, so, I think rather than
Speaker 1: having you have like a last episode where it's like
Speaker 1: here you're dad, here, you here, every one day, gone
Speaker 1: the next, We're just gonna phase you out. I was like, okay, sure.
Speaker 1: I ended up actually being a lot more fun. So
Speaker 1: for the whole last week I was there, I was
Speaker 1: just doing a little bits and I bought Peter in
Speaker 1: for a cooking Yeah, so it was basically like I
Speaker 1: would just do bits like they would like as a runner,
Speaker 1: which ended up being way more fun than just being
Speaker 1: on the couch and like talking about rappers I've never
Speaker 1: heard of, as though I knew who they were, because
Speaker 1: it got to a point where like I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to look these people up because me
Speaker 1: reading one Wikipedia entry is not going to replace an
Speaker 1: entire cultural knowledge of this person. So I'm just not
Speaker 1: So I was just sitting there being like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: is crazy that she said that. That was when I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I know, isn't that It is like
Speaker 1: kind of in same, but if you actually really think
Speaker 1: about it, this is a racer. And they were like, yeah, applause.
Speaker 1: The number of applause breaks I got talking about things
Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was talking about was
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. Yeah, there's a live audience, um, live audience.
Speaker 1: They it was like. So then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm want to leave. I had a whole last episode
Speaker 1: where it was like my goodbye episode, my you know,
Speaker 1: I did my little bits where it was like always
Speaker 1: giving like performance reviews to the other cast members. Ha
Speaker 1: ha ha um. And then they like played a little joke,
Speaker 1: you know, oh highlight reel, and they were going to
Speaker 1: play actual highlight reel from my time on the show,
Speaker 1: from the seven weeks we had been on the air.
Speaker 1: They had put together like a highlight reel, and I
Speaker 1: was like, forgot. I said, please, please, please, please please
Speaker 1: do not do this to me. Do not put together
Speaker 1: a highlight reel of my seven weeks on this show.
Speaker 1: It which I did not do will like, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just not a context in which I feel like
Speaker 1: I thrive. Is like just it's just like riffing on culture,
Speaker 1: you know, it just is not what I am good at.
Speaker 1: And so I just was like, please do not do this.
Speaker 1: So I made them put together a like two second
Speaker 1: clip that was like you know, they put like, oh,
Speaker 1: Sandy's highlights, and it was just like what two second
Speaker 1: clips would be like fumbling, and then it was like
Speaker 1: and then godbye, goodbye, goodbye. This is on a Thursday.
Speaker 1: On Monday show canceled no more Eric, so that ended
Speaker 1: up being the last episode. The last episode of the
Speaker 1: show was like and Sandy's leaving and it's so sad,
Speaker 1: also very funny because the audience they're not it's not
Speaker 1: like they watched the show every night. They're just like
Speaker 1: random people that came to the taping. So it's like
Speaker 1: they showed up and the whole episode was like it's
Speaker 1: Sandy's goodbye episode and they had to go like like
Speaker 1: like they and I was like, you guys don't know
Speaker 1: who I am, you don't know what the show is.
Speaker 1: But they had to be like oh, and like give
Speaker 1: me applause. It's just so funny an emotional yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I yeah, And then Monday show canceled like just
Speaker 1: from the like from the network, and then like everyone
Speaker 1: on staff was like, I guess we don't have a
Speaker 1: job anymore, like yeah, it was very well. No one
Speaker 1: actually told me from the show. My friend Jack, you
Speaker 1: know Jack Ben singer Um from Chicago pretty recently, very
Speaker 1: very funny boy, very talented. He was I I brought
Speaker 1: him into the show a while ago. He got uh
Speaker 1: fired and rehired twice throughout the time on the show,
Speaker 1: and then fired again, and then after I left, they
Speaker 1: brought him back in. So on Monday he showed up
Speaker 1: for his third time working at this show and then
Speaker 1: texted me being like, Hey, I'm like back at work
Speaker 1: with they're having a giant meeting with everyone who works here.
Speaker 1: And then five minutes later he text me being like,
Speaker 1: shows canceled. Oh my god. People don't know. We have
Speaker 1: not figured out how to do those panel shows. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna work. It's a hard thing. Also, every night
Speaker 1: is hard. Two hours? What was that like? Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, walk us through like the typical day in
Speaker 1: those first stages where what time would you go in?
Speaker 1: I got in around like two or three, depending on
Speaker 1: the day, and then the show aired when it was
Speaker 1: two hours. I aired at nine from nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: and then when it was one hour from ten to eleven.
Speaker 1: That's a long time. It's a long time, a long day,
Speaker 1: and then a long day to just like I just
Speaker 1: I don't know anything that we were talking about. You
Speaker 1: would look up like Takashi, but you know it was
Speaker 1: Abby Matton novelist situation. For all my views view it
Speaker 1: really was just like I don't know why you hired me,
Speaker 1: Like I really I feel like I showed up every
Speaker 1: day being like, I don't know what you thought. I
Speaker 1: know that the reason that I got the show was
Speaker 1: because when I when I was testing for it, I
Speaker 1: talked about the thing was like, oh, what's a good
Speaker 1: gift you could get someone after six weeks of dating?
Speaker 1: And I was saying that a pack of batteries is
Speaker 1: a great gift, and I was just sorry. I just
Speaker 1: talked about batteries for like five minutes and then they
Speaker 1: were like yeah, and they were like, oh, she's so funny,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, you hired someone who talked
Speaker 1: about batteries from well, I don't know anything about pop culture.
Speaker 1: I just know about batteries. You know. It's incredible too,
Speaker 1: because you are so good at so many things than
Speaker 1: to get this one job where they're like all we're
Speaker 1: going to ask you to do is the thing that
Speaker 1: you really was just like, I can't believe this is
Speaker 1: the first like TV thing that I'm doing is something
Speaker 1: that I feel like I am the worst at. It's
Speaker 1: just like it sucks to to feel like actively feel
Speaker 1: like you're failing live on television. And it was. It
Speaker 1: was a live which I thought would be very scary,
Speaker 1: and it actually wasn't that scar yea even even. But
Speaker 1: how do you reconcile that with like you like, feeling
Speaker 1: kind of crazy about failing on TV? It somehow felt
Speaker 1: it felt more like I actually felt like I played
Speaker 1: better on camera than I did in the room. Oh
Speaker 1: I played a lot to the camera. Well that's good.
Speaker 1: I played to the folks at home, mak my parents. Yes,
Speaker 1: my dad watched every night. My mom would watch the
Speaker 1: next day. Beautiful honestly, Yeah, that's a skill though, Like
Speaker 1: you miss live performance on Saturday night? A great job.
Speaker 1: You are so funny. Didn't understand what was going on.
Speaker 1: I was like, do I when? When? When do I talk?
Speaker 1: I truly had no idea what was going on. I
Speaker 1: don't remember any of that. It was so you were
Speaker 1: so funny. Oh my god, I was freaking out. I
Speaker 1: flipped out, flipped out. But I did feel like I
Speaker 1: went to TV grad school where it was like I
Speaker 1: know when that red light comes on, which I know
Speaker 1: which one to look at, and I know how to
Speaker 1: do prompter and I know whatever I think. I think
Speaker 1: prompter is something I can do. But the red light
Speaker 1: thing annoying? Which camera? That would be hard for me
Speaker 1: because color blindness and see him? What is the red
Speaker 1: lot of reasons to not put me on live TV?
Speaker 1: By the way, everyone listening, Um, I can learn, I can,
Speaker 1: I can change my eyes. Can you see or as
Speaker 1: you can't tell if it's green or red? It's a
Speaker 1: thing of like green and red is actually very difficult
Speaker 1: for me, like from yeah, it's color weak? Is that
Speaker 1: color weak? Red? Green? Colors, red, green, color week. I
Speaker 1: didn't know there was like another term for it. They've
Speaker 1: told you also might be right. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Who am I but the daughter of two doctors? Of course.
Speaker 1: I mean you know what it's like. It's like I
Speaker 1: can see colors, but I can't tell them apart often. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's if blue and purple are next to
Speaker 1: each other. That's a nightmare. Red and green, brown and green,
Speaker 1: forget about it. Forget we forget about brown and green.
Speaker 1: Those are in the forest. Yeah, no, don't put me
Speaker 1: in the forest. Don't put me back. I can't see
Speaker 1: the forest. I'm sorry, I can't see nothing. I can't
Speaker 1: see the forest for the trees. My dad, And that's
Speaker 1: not changing the expression my dad. My My one job
Speaker 1: when I was a little like my chore that I
Speaker 1: would have to do with I would have to go
Speaker 1: clean up the dog ship in the yard. Oh but
Speaker 1: that was a nightmare because I could never see the
Speaker 1: dog poop because it was famously brown. How did you
Speaker 1: realize you were? In third grade? They pulled me into
Speaker 1: the nurses office just to do like a routine physical,
Speaker 1: and they do this thing where circles. It's a bunch
Speaker 1: of little dots of color and you're supposed to see
Speaker 1: a number or like a pattern. You're supposed to identify it.
Speaker 1: And they were like, Okay, what number do you see
Speaker 1: in this thing? And I was like four and they
Speaker 1: were like it's a twenty two. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, and they're like okay. So you're like aggressively
Speaker 1: color blind, like this is what it is. And now
Speaker 1: they have those glasses you can wear then you see
Speaker 1: the color, or you can put on cocktail lens and
Speaker 1: it will change it. But I'm scared to do why
Speaker 1: because I feel like it will freak me the funk out.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be so cool too, because I always
Speaker 1: try to imagine, like try to imagine in your head
Speaker 1: a color that you've never seen before. It's impossible to imagine,
Speaker 1: but you've never looked through the glasses. Oh my god, Matt,
Speaker 1: you have to do that. You have to make one
Speaker 1: of those viral videos where it's like puppy going outside
Speaker 1: podcast host, he's green. I will walk around this town
Speaker 1: saying green is my favorite color, and I actually I've
Speaker 1: never actually seen it. Two favorite colors are blue and green,
Speaker 1: at least what my eyes see. What color you're at
Speaker 1: are actually green? And that's and that's where where in
Speaker 1: the trouble lies. I think they're green. They are I
Speaker 1: can't really tell. I often get blue, but they're going
Speaker 1: to look green. They're they're green. They're green. They're green.
Speaker 1: They're green. The grand mother had green eyes. So wait,
Speaker 1: so so to you, green looks brown. You don't know
Speaker 1: if you put brown and green together. I can sort
Speaker 1: of tell you which one is brown and which one
Speaker 1: is green. But it is laborous and it's like, is
Speaker 1: the green you see the green that I see? And
Speaker 1: the answer is, actually, now we know this for a fact.
Speaker 1: It is now and it's gonna be one of those
Speaker 1: things where it's like, I don't know. My My doctor
Speaker 1: when I was little was like if you were to
Speaker 1: switch eyes with a normal person, you would see something
Speaker 1: fucked up to you, Like if you were to look
Speaker 1: at the world through my eyes, you'd be like, holy ship, Wait,
Speaker 1: but you should do it. That's such a cool experience
Speaker 1: to see it. I guess I'll figure out how to
Speaker 1: do it. What do you know, what's the worst thing
Speaker 1: that can happen? You get and then you take them off,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, spooky, spooky. Oh, you should just
Speaker 1: do acid and then put the glasses on and be
Speaker 1: like that would be a whole thing. That would be crazy.
Speaker 1: I'd have to be in a safe afiment. Yes, you'd
Speaker 1: have to. I've done it once and it was the
Speaker 1: best experience I've ever had, and I never want to
Speaker 1: do it again because it was so great. See we
Speaker 1: did it in the first time, Well, you've done it.
Speaker 1: I did. The first time I did it was on
Speaker 1: Fire Island. Yes, it was the best experience I've ever
Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life. And then they did
Speaker 1: it again with Matt and Upstate and it was also wonderful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was amazing. It didn't take away from the first
Speaker 1: at all. I like doing an upstate. The second time
Speaker 1: I did it was in l A. And then we
Speaker 1: were in a house and it was raining and I
Speaker 1: felt cooped up in the house. So that was a
Speaker 1: little bit less comfortable, but still a good experience. I'm
Speaker 1: going to Joshua Tree in a couple of weeks. I might,
Speaker 1: but then I'm like a little bit like like desert,
Speaker 1: and we just had a house, and I feel like
Speaker 1: the only place we could go would be like walking
Speaker 1: around the desert. I don't know, if you're not gonna
Speaker 1: go anywhere, I don't know. Fire Island was so perfect
Speaker 1: because you got the beach, you got the bay so close.
Speaker 1: You could just walk around and look at all the
Speaker 1: houses and go wow. Yeah. I've been going there since
Speaker 1: I was a little baby baby. I learned. I learned
Speaker 1: it to surf my my grandpa had a house there
Speaker 1: and then he um famously kicked us out. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: and because his wife said, we brought sand into the
Speaker 1: house and you're not allowed back to that. You weren't
Speaker 1: a lot back to the house. We had to we
Speaker 1: had to well, we would come to we could come
Speaker 1: to visit, but we couldn't stay because you brought sand
Speaker 1: into the house. I mean she just was yeah, but
Speaker 1: long Island women, and like like the worst thing you
Speaker 1: could do in the I think it was just an excuse.
Speaker 1: I think she just I think it just didn't want
Speaker 1: us there. My my mom and her dad have been
Speaker 1: a great relationships, so so it was kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't stay here anymore. So then my mom found
Speaker 1: this little like cabin in another town that was basically
Speaker 1: no one was living there. You couldn't even see the house.
Speaker 1: It was like totally overgrown. It was this like cabin
Speaker 1: that this woman's uncle had built and there was just
Speaker 1: like trees all around it. And then she basically was
Speaker 1: like I'll take it. And then yeah, and now it's
Speaker 1: and there was a little fixed rapper or is it Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's still little. But she painted fun colors. I love
Speaker 1: that and you gotta make it fun, and you gotta
Speaker 1: make it fun. Yellow turquoise, which beach was like your
Speaker 1: beach growing growing up on fire and like ocean. Ocean
Speaker 1: was in fact all my friends actually I'll name Bay Street, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right on the bad guys, My my girlfriends all in
Speaker 1: high school worked at the market, the market of the
Speaker 1: Ocean Park Market actually both by the same but ce
Speaker 1: markets really where it's at? What's what's what's the last name?
Speaker 1: What is your last name? Did you? I didn't know?
Speaker 1: You grew up going to Fire Island like truly all
Speaker 1: the time, but like the straight parts of our island
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Did you go to the ever go
Speaker 1: to the day camp in Ocean Beach? Um? No, but
Speaker 1: all my friends see same. Jake went one year. My
Speaker 1: mom tried to get me to go, and I got
Speaker 1: too scared. When did you graduate high school? What? Ye? Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, we were probably literally there at the same time.
Speaker 1: I was, okay, we have so much crossover missed each other.
Speaker 1: I think you guys, And this is ultimately interesting for
Speaker 1: the listener, ultimately, ultimately and even more for event to
Speaker 1: say what I'm gonna best say right now? Ocean Bay
Speaker 1: Park Market had the best buffalo chicken wrap. Wow. But
Speaker 1: but Stevie Market had really good daily sandwiches. Truly, I'll
Speaker 1: never have food as good as the food that I
Speaker 1: had at those markets. So expensive, everything has to be important, psychotic,
Speaker 1: psychotically expensive. A bagg of chips is like twelve dollars
Speaker 1: and truly the sleepiest fourteen year old girl work at
Speaker 1: all times, but she's always cool, tied I sweatshirt, choker's
Speaker 1: flip flops. My sister worked there too, a blonde but
Speaker 1: like loose bun but looks good, describing truly all my
Speaker 1: girlfriends from high school. The loose fun is iconic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: loose bun iconic with like they're like, I play soccer yep,
Speaker 1: they played soccer soccer girls and all their screen names
Speaker 1: had either the word soccer or beach in it. I
Speaker 1: have this thought about the teens who work on in
Speaker 1: the Pine specifically, Yes, they run Fire Island, they run
Speaker 1: the ferries, they run. It's like scary, it's scary. But
Speaker 1: I'm just like, are they this is truly just like no,
Speaker 1: this isn't even internalizedme with it. It's not even it's
Speaker 1: it's not even anything. I'm just like I look at
Speaker 1: them and like, do you think that we're crazy? Like
Speaker 1: like I'm like, what do you think about us? I
Speaker 1: think they know what it is, they know what it is.
Speaker 1: I've actually are the teen is it's teens in the
Speaker 1: Pines and in cherry growth there's a lot of aren't
Speaker 1: as there's not as many teens in cherry growth, but
Speaker 1: all the teams are running every single shop in the Pine.
Speaker 1: I also think probably those jobs are a little bit
Speaker 1: more difficult to get because you probably make more money
Speaker 1: doing like the service jobs there. But like the markets
Speaker 1: and everything, all teens. But it's like some day people
Speaker 1: can be monsters for sure. Children. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've been to the trade part of I mean Ocean
Speaker 1: Beach at night on the weekend. Ocean Beach is a
Speaker 1: nickname the land of no Yep, and it's just all
Speaker 1: these like rich Jews that are just like, you can't
Speaker 1: you can't ride your bike on the week days. You can't.
Speaker 1: They'll literally they'll they'll they'll kick you out, or they'll
Speaker 1: put you in the jail. The jail is a jail,
Speaker 1: Fire Island jail. Yes it's It is truly prominently displayed
Speaker 1: next to the ferry docks. Yes, it is right next
Speaker 1: to the ferry the Fire Island Jail. I have been
Speaker 1: threatened before, but I've never been put in the Fire
Speaker 1: Island jail. Did you guys know that Macy's Street has
Speaker 1: a jail in the base that's almost no. Coole by
Speaker 1: Er has this story that she that she tells, and
Speaker 1: she told her in Seth Meyers, I think where she
Speaker 1: would shoplift, and she shoplifted from she would shoplift from Macy's,
Speaker 1: and she had this amazing thing where she goes, Okay,
Speaker 1: so you say you wanted to steal five T shirts,
Speaker 1: you put five T shirts, you put you put them
Speaker 1: all on the same hangar, and then you just pop
Speaker 1: tags basically, and then it's this whole convoluted thing that
Speaker 1: I can't even paraphrase. But then like she got throws,
Speaker 1: she got caught one time and she got taken to
Speaker 1: the basement of Macy's and was thrown in a jail cell.
Speaker 1: They and honest, you could walk on the street with
Speaker 1: a drink in Ocean Beach and they they'll put you
Speaker 1: in jail. I'm so happy you said the land of
Speaker 1: no I hadn't thought of that in so long. You
Speaker 1: are under constant threat of being thrown if you if
Speaker 1: you dare ride a bike without a flashlight at night,
Speaker 1: you'll get a ticket. Yeah, that's insane. Is it? Does
Speaker 1: it look the same as it does in the Pines
Speaker 1: and Cherry Grove where it's like boardwalks and entries they
Speaker 1: don't have boardwalks, they're just concrete. It's it's it's similar
Speaker 1: in terms of it's nowhere near as like aesthetically pleasing. God,
Speaker 1: I will say this, like there's something about Cherry Grove
Speaker 1: where you feel like you could bite the walls. It's
Speaker 1: like everything's like candy everything everything. Ocean Beach is like
Speaker 1: maybe I've been there too many times, but it's just
Speaker 1: like I can't get the beauty, get it anymore? Like
Speaker 1: the what is that called the Island Mermaid? That restaurant, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Mermaid, yea, the Mermaid, the Mermaid pantry. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the equivalent to the pantry. No, it's sorry, I'm getting
Speaker 1: things confused. It's it's it's all kind of blending in
Speaker 1: for me. Now, restaurant and a little deli. So get this.
Speaker 1: So get this. I used to work, you know, the
Speaker 1: clam bar in the Fire Island. I worked there, No way,
Speaker 1: that was my first job. Nicki's Clambar and Nikki's on
Speaker 1: the Bay was my real job. And then I was
Speaker 1: like I honestly, Sandy, I did the cash register for
Speaker 1: like what you could go to get to go orders.
Speaker 1: That was my first job. I wonder if I ever
Speaker 1: bought uh, Honestly, like, one of the most incredible things
Speaker 1: is going on the ferry to Fire Islands in the
Speaker 1: summer and watching people eat hot clam chowder in the
Speaker 1: direct sunlight. That was meder well, just like sweating. It
Speaker 1: is just like unbelievable, not logistically to eat it. And
Speaker 1: it's honestly not logistics in the matter, hands down, it's
Speaker 1: not even logistics. It's not the place to do it.
Speaker 1: You eat a clam chowder on a boat. You eat
Speaker 1: clam chowder in a bread bowl when you're a skiing,
Speaker 1: that's when you have clam chowder. When when you're downhill
Speaker 1: on the slopes and I don't know if you've never
Speaker 1: been the Long Island in the summer, it gets hot.
Speaker 1: She can get up there in ninety degrees, can feel
Speaker 1: like a hundred three three. But you're still baking on
Speaker 1: the top on the top of the ferry, just like
Speaker 1: eating chowder. And it's also too windy to eat it.
Speaker 1: Chowter fly, chowderfly, yes, chowter fly. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: but correct me if I'm wrong to get to the
Speaker 1: point in your life where people start referring to Fire
Speaker 1: Island culture as like the gay thing. It's such a
Speaker 1: hard adjustment. Like when we were growing up and it
Speaker 1: was like aggressively straight and I grow yeah, well, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: It's like if you were to go to Long Island
Speaker 1: and go back to let's say, like Ocean Beach, Ocean
Speaker 1: Bay Park. Well, no, like, let's say you go back
Speaker 1: to um why I know, I know where where you're
Speaker 1: from the neighborhood from. If you go back and you
Speaker 1: say Fire Island, the people that aren't going to associate
Speaker 1: with gay necessarily. No. That's the thing is It's like
Speaker 1: everywhere in the world is like you say the words
Speaker 1: Fire Island and they think, oh, gay and not that's
Speaker 1: not the case, right, Oh that's what you're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it has a it has a whole
Speaker 1: different identity for people like Sandy and I who grew
Speaker 1: up there. You were Long Island. I was Connecticut, Connecticut.
Speaker 1: But my mom is a surfer surfing in Connecticut. So
Speaker 1: we would drive every weekend talking about Northeastern who frequent
Speaker 1: Fire Island. They don't think of it as like being
Speaker 1: gay exclusive, but we would always go over there and
Speaker 1: have fun. Would you see? That was not yeah, see
Speaker 1: me and my mom my brother would like walk over
Speaker 1: and like hang out. Wow. I wish I wish that
Speaker 1: that had been a thing from me, But it was
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't know, was who would you
Speaker 1: have gone with? Right? Who would I have gone with? Well?
Speaker 1: I ended up I did end up going Nicky's boss.
Speaker 1: So I had a relationship with someone I worked with
Speaker 1: at Nikki's at Nikki's Clambar, and then they exposed me
Speaker 1: to the that fire Island about it. I knew about it,
Speaker 1: but it was like the Pines, you know, something to
Speaker 1: listen about it. I mean Cherry Grove, Cherry see Cherry Grove.
Speaker 1: I thought was like the gay part, and then now
Speaker 1: like I understand that's more family oriented and the Pines
Speaker 1: is where your party, right, well, the Trigger is like
Speaker 1: more family, it's more where a lot of the lesbians are,
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's it's home er. I guess
Speaker 1: it's also more fun. It's a little bit more low
Speaker 1: key and it's kind of like you know, they're just
Speaker 1: like yeah, like I always thought of it as like
Speaker 1: the Pines is where the like big fancy houses are.
Speaker 1: Oh the pines, The Pines is house, kitchen and cherry
Speaker 1: of his Chelsea. Yes, that tracks, that tracks, that actually tracks,
Speaker 1: that actually tracks for me. That actually tracks for me
Speaker 1: as well. So it listen, We're sitting here talking about
Speaker 1: so much culture and we have yet to ask the
Speaker 1: question to take it away. We asked this of all
Speaker 1: our guests. By the way, Sandy Honick, what is the
Speaker 1: culture that made you say culture is for me? Think
Speaker 1: about the culture when you grew up formative to you
Speaker 1: end up put you in this path. And for you
Speaker 1: it might be we're talking with photographer here as well.
Speaker 1: Everyone could be photography, but it could be multiple answers,
Speaker 1: like it could be movies, books, TV. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's really all over the place for me. We love
Speaker 1: that because I had very very exposed I had like,
Speaker 1: for some reason, I very passively accepted culture. I didn't
Speaker 1: It's not like any even knows, Like I just didn't
Speaker 1: know you could like seek things out. It was kind
Speaker 1: of just like whatever my mom wanted, it was handed
Speaker 1: down to you. Yeah, and so I didn't have Basically
Speaker 1: the only things that I like, the only music I
Speaker 1: listened to was Aerosmith and UM Jimmy Buffett. So we
Speaker 1: are very similar to every Oh my god, okay, I
Speaker 1: would I would have heard of myself as a parent head.
Speaker 1: My dad is the parent head. You know what parent
Speaker 1: looks at? Forty is right there? Okay, right, apparent looks
Speaker 1: right there. This is the second time I talked about
Speaker 1: dream Buffet today. Actually, I so, I mean truly like
Speaker 1: someone the other day. I tried to like challenge me
Speaker 1: on it and she was like, oh, really, you're like
Speaker 1: a Jimmy Buffet fan, Like, for real, name five songs.
Speaker 1: I was like, I could name twenty and she was
Speaker 1: like okay, and then I just did. I mean, and
Speaker 1: it was And I didn't even understand that that was
Speaker 1: like not good, Like I have friends that would make
Speaker 1: fun of me and be like ha ha Jammy buff
Speaker 1: And I was like, what's the joke. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: It's just fun. Yeah, it's it's They were like, well,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like yacht rock, and I was like
Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like what was so what is that?
Speaker 1: But also I used to wish that they, you know
Speaker 1: how on American Idol they would do like theme weeks.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are they going to do? Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear like someone cover Finns fins and
Speaker 1: iconic song, what's your favorite dream of its song? I
Speaker 1: would say that my favorite depending on my mood. Really
Speaker 1: depends on the mood. I'm gonna Sayeeseburger Paris is a
Speaker 1: class classic, but that's also like you know, I know
Speaker 1: it's not. I think Monday is maybe his best written song.
Speaker 1: I think it has the most emotion in it, but
Speaker 1: I do I think Finn's slaps and I also think
Speaker 1: I also think Volcano is good and I love um Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't love pencil than mustache, but it's iconic. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And then, but you know his album
Speaker 1: songs you know by heart? Yeah, obviously obviously I know
Speaker 1: that my heart. Yes, but it's called that because none
Speaker 1: of them were like singles or anything, but they are
Speaker 1: like so in the fandom that that you truly know
Speaker 1: them all by heart, and that whole album I could
Speaker 1: play back to front like and also there's something I
Speaker 1: have had a day dream like, I'm gonna so for
Speaker 1: me boat drinks laugh to talk about changes and attitude.
Speaker 1: Nothing son of a son of a sailor is there's
Speaker 1: a woman that comes in for the like, that woman
Speaker 1: is iconic. Dad, it's do you know what I referenced
Speaker 1: before word me and no one knew what I was
Speaker 1: talking about. He went to Paris looking for answers to questions.
Speaker 1: And also, that's such a sad, beautiful song. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so did you see Beach Bum No Jimmy Buffets in it?
Speaker 1: And yeah, so Harmony cren is like my favorite director.
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite of his movies. I think that
Speaker 1: there are some moments in it that are so worth
Speaker 1: seeing it. And one of them is he has Jimmy
Speaker 1: Buffett and Snoop Dogg in a scene and they're singing
Speaker 1: a song together, and I will say it is one
Speaker 1: of the I I met him when I was doing
Speaker 1: this vice show Harmony Harmony, and I told him, I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta say to you, like, thank you
Speaker 1: so much because you gave us what I would consider
Speaker 1: the greatest Jimmy Bufett song ever written. And it's called
Speaker 1: Moonfog and it's like written from I Don't written before
Speaker 1: the movie, and it's like it's it's really even if
Speaker 1: you listen, you can hear Snoop like on the like
Speaker 1: in the background. He's not like singing on the track,
Speaker 1: but you can hear him and I and it was great.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, this is actually beautiful. And Sandy came
Speaker 1: in today being like, I don't know that much about culture,
Speaker 1: are you kidding? But this is so It's so my
Speaker 1: culture is son of a son of a sailor is
Speaker 1: truly biful. And as I've gotten older, like I guess
Speaker 1: when I was little, I liked the up temple stuff
Speaker 1: like obviously Margaritaville is like his iconic song, truly talk
Speaker 1: about a genius global brand. Yes, did you read that
Speaker 1: New York Times profile on him? That was when the
Speaker 1: Margaritaville play came out, and it was basically just about
Speaker 1: how he is this like business mogul who owns I
Speaker 1: mean truly, he owns so many franchises and the like
Speaker 1: island lifestyle is so far from what he is now
Speaker 1: like he yeah, it's but I will say, and this
Speaker 1: is just me speaking as this complete outsider, someone who
Speaker 1: I mean is not a parrot head, like, does not
Speaker 1: really connect to in the same way that you guys are.
Speaker 1: But I think it is beautiful. The thing about Jimmy
Speaker 1: Bvitt is I think he did. It's a how people
Speaker 1: are talking about K pop now where they're like, it's
Speaker 1: a new invention in music. I don't necessarily think that's true,
Speaker 1: but I think with Jimmy, with Jimmy Buffett, I think
Speaker 1: it's beyond yacht rock, even where it's like it's not
Speaker 1: it's not yat rock, but he invents it's it's a
Speaker 1: newish invention in rock music. I mean, it was just
Speaker 1: it's just like a brand. It's truly, it's like a
Speaker 1: story you can opt into. It's like it's like I'm Island,
Speaker 1: but it's singular. No one else has really come close
Speaker 1: to like mimicking that specifically, I think caters to people
Speaker 1: like my father, who was a working class person who
Speaker 1: worked hard at his job and wanted an escape. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so it literally is a state of mind that
Speaker 1: is musicalized and that is like and it can be
Speaker 1: mass produced and mass distributed and everyone can listen. Truly
Speaker 1: genius because you can actually write real songs, or you
Speaker 1: can write full last joke songs like what don't we
Speaker 1: get drunk and screwed? Class like that one always made
Speaker 1: me uncomfortable. I mean my mom would skip it. We listen,
Speaker 1: and my mom was not this one made me uncomfortable. Yeah, sort,
Speaker 1: but he also was like he's like a full novelist,
Speaker 1: like he's like he's good at what he does. And
Speaker 1: so you're right, no one's really tried to just do
Speaker 1: brand first. Yeah. Well, actually you could say that Lady
Speaker 1: Gaga with joe Anne kind of did that you know
Speaker 1: where restaurant? Right, where have you been to the restaurant? No, no, Marville,
Speaker 1: I'll always hit one of we've We've been to Joey
Speaker 1: and Tratoria. Oh no, no, no, you're talking about I
Speaker 1: was talking about Margaritaville and I've taken you to Margaritaville,
Speaker 1: but like, who I have not been to margin Sandy's
Speaker 1: really wish they would open one. You know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: They have Bubba Gompoy can did you do Margarita? But
Speaker 1: we whenever we go to Orlando, this is insane. We
Speaker 1: always I always make a point like we have to
Speaker 1: go to Margaritaville because you go to the Margaritaville restaurant
Speaker 1: and the whole gag of it is you go when
Speaker 1: you said at the bar and the the like huge pitch.
Speaker 1: Sure that's on top of the volcano fills up, and
Speaker 1: then the whole lights in the restaurant go in and
Speaker 1: out like and the picture tips over because the volcano
Speaker 1: is blowing right and down the waterfall is the margharita
Speaker 1: and it fills up a huge blender and then like
Speaker 1: that is to show that they've they've like the margharita
Speaker 1: has exploded from the volcano. Ever you can all drink
Speaker 1: and then you know what song plays and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna r and then you know what I
Speaker 1: love the coral reefers by the steel drum is employed
Speaker 1: so well, and you eat your cheeseburger in Paradise. I've
Speaker 1: never I've never been. You gotta go right there in front. No,
Speaker 1: there's like, well, they're all. There's one in the you
Speaker 1: know what. I almost had this one here because I
Speaker 1: genuinely don't know where I am. There's one in l
Speaker 1: A at the City Walk obviously the Universal Study. So
Speaker 1: I'll go there, So we'll go there when you when
Speaker 1: you come out when we cross over, you will go.
Speaker 1: And then there's also one in Orlando. There's one in Yes,
Speaker 1: there's one in um probably you know the keys and
Speaker 1: in any like Island, Virginia Beach, all that stuff. Shot.
Speaker 1: They don't have one in New York because it wouldn't not.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like we're on an island. I'm hello, Hello.
Speaker 1: Actually we're in Brooklyn, right is that is Brooklyn? Brooklyn
Speaker 1: is part of the Long Island. So there's got to
Speaker 1: be some other musician out there who has all this brand.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're missing someone. But like a musician, a
Speaker 1: musician with a restaurant is like a truly music who's
Speaker 1: a musician with Toby Keith? Toby Keith has I Love
Speaker 1: This Bar and Grill? So he had a song called
Speaker 1: Helve this Bar Smack con Place, and then now there's
Speaker 1: an I Love This Bar and Grill And I went
Speaker 1: there when we were on a Story Parts trip one
Speaker 1: time and I went there. Josh Leigh did he really is?
Speaker 1: He was wonderful. He was he is such good energy,
Speaker 1: so cute. So he was truly one of the only
Speaker 1: people there that was like positive. Everybody else was miserable
Speaker 1: to be there. And he came in every day with
Speaker 1: great energy and he was always having fun. Who wow,
Speaker 1: that's who he is. He is such good energy. And
Speaker 1: I remember this is how you know I was like
Speaker 1: a young I think this is about five years ago.
Speaker 1: He became friends with him, but I remember we were
Speaker 1: on this trip and we went to Toby Keats I
Speaker 1: love this bar and girl, and he was so excited
Speaker 1: and I was like excited to because I kind of
Speaker 1: like hundream music. Um. And he ordered a whiskey on
Speaker 1: the rocks and so I ordered on the rock Wow,
Speaker 1: and we and we hide ourselves. I kind of do
Speaker 1: that with anyone because I don't really know like drinks
Speaker 1: at all. I don't have a drink. Is that sad?
Speaker 1: It's not sad? My mind is I've changed? What is
Speaker 1: your do I do martinis now? Because literally of a
Speaker 1: photo that sandy phonic? Wait? That really? Yes? I like
Speaker 1: you gave me my drink. I was like, I look
Speaker 1: good holding this. Yeah you did. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: that's an iconic picture of you and I'm going to
Speaker 1: order this for the listener. I took the photo of
Speaker 1: Bowen with the martini and as of this recording date April,
Speaker 1: she's still not No. I actually just got the check.
Speaker 1: Just got the check, never mind, just got off. I
Speaker 1: was I was in I was out of town and
Speaker 1: I was like, really, piste off again, being like he
Speaker 1: pleasely still haven't pay me. This is for out magazine,
Speaker 1: and so I just want to call you out, okay.
Speaker 1: And I was about to like like pop off again,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh wait. And then I
Speaker 1: got home and I had the check and okay, when
Speaker 1: the check come in, when the check out, when the
Speaker 1: check comes, when the check come in. Hello, when the
Speaker 1: check comes. Now, that's a beautiful song you can say
Speaker 1: when you get a shot that I can say, Um
Speaker 1: that Matt wrote Really, I love it. I'm musical. He's
Speaker 1: very musical. Did to the rest of the team get paid? Um?
Speaker 1: I know that I have to check in with my assistant.
Speaker 1: I know that the set got to get paid. Okay
Speaker 1: this sentence, I have to check in with my assistant.
Speaker 1: It sandy. It's only the Buffets and the Wells. He
Speaker 1: was just my assistant for that shoot. I don't have
Speaker 1: a system, please. I bet Jimmy Buffett has a whole
Speaker 1: fleet of the system. Oh, he's got a bunch of
Speaker 1: like little girls in bikinis. I'm sure. Honestly, we had
Speaker 1: a room in our house. This will be the last
Speaker 1: thing I say, but it's important. I say that, I
Speaker 1: think you will understand, okay, but no one understood. Whenever
Speaker 1: I wouldn't invite anyone over to my house in high school,
Speaker 1: I had to. I was like, you have to come
Speaker 1: see the room. But it was a whole. There was
Speaker 1: an entire like room in my house which was verd
Speaker 1: in parrots, parrot paraphernalia, photos of beaches and Jimmy Buffett paraphernalia,
Speaker 1: like you know, the whole and it just crossed over
Speaker 1: to Kenny Chest problems. You've seen it. It took over
Speaker 1: an entire room. The entire back then of my house
Speaker 1: was Jimmy Buffett feed where's that stuff? Now? I don't wait?
Speaker 1: So when you do your seventy three questions video, you
Speaker 1: have to do it there and then be like, do
Speaker 1: you want to see where the magic happens? And you
Speaker 1: think I'm going to my gorgeous looks better with satin sheets,
Speaker 1: and it's the buffet room. Yeah, the buffet room. My
Speaker 1: mom didn't have that. She just had it all over
Speaker 1: every room. My mom's dashboard um and her car was
Speaker 1: like to like parrots in a little barrel, like my
Speaker 1: mom is beach, true, My mom is true beach. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the famous beach with her entire life. She's from Manhattan,
Speaker 1: but she's an escape but she like ran away to
Speaker 1: Barbados and like it's just like surf girl. And she
Speaker 1: lives on Fire Island. Wow. And then in the winter
Speaker 1: she's in Brooklyn with her boyfriend or in Costa Rica. Wow.
Speaker 1: And she's a doctor so she does like, uh, you,
Speaker 1: it's like a new thing telemedicine where you can basically
Speaker 1: just like video chat with a doctor. So she just
Speaker 1: can do that from wherever that is. Imagine a cheap doctor.
Speaker 1: It sounds like that's like an actualized lifestyle, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like fully achieving, Like you are fulfilling
Speaker 1: all of your needs, your own personal needs, all of them.
Speaker 1: All the boxes are being checked. Okay, here's a question.
Speaker 1: If you are to step into the reality of what
Speaker 1: you really if you're to get that actualized lifestyle, where
Speaker 1: are you? What are you doing? What's your schedule? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can go first? Yeah, you go first.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a big, heavy question. I own
Speaker 1: my own theme park. His arms, by the way, arms
Speaker 1: out so strong, very strong. It looks strong. You look
Speaker 1: very strong. Come on, I think that's been working out.
Speaker 1: Your arms are very strong. When your arm, when the
Speaker 1: arms come out, when the arm come out, Wow, that's
Speaker 1: that's huge for me, someone struggling physically in the gay community. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know, out of here, I have my own theme park.
Speaker 1: But but it's somewhere. It's somewhere where I can work it.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's in Bakersfield, Bakersfield. I don't know Bakersfield.
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about this enough. You know what, Let's
Speaker 1: just go for it. I have my own island, right
Speaker 1: the theme parks on the island. The industry comes to me.
Speaker 1: It's a huge film studio, rivals Disney and universally. So
Speaker 1: what we're doing is we're having Rogers. It's called Roger's Land.
Speaker 1: We've talked about this on the pod. Here are some
Speaker 1: rides that are included in Roger's Leah Remedi's Escape from Scientology.
Speaker 1: The ride Animatronic Jay rides the car. Jlo drives the
Speaker 1: car and you're riding. There's a theme park called the
Speaker 1: Mountain Boone Experience. I mean, there are little coaster called
Speaker 1: the Manta Coaster. There's many ups and downs. Ultimately you
Speaker 1: end up together right parked in the right park in
Speaker 1: the station two Best Friend coasters. There is a I
Speaker 1: think the drop tower called the Gay Experience. It shoots
Speaker 1: up and down and to and fro actually to like
Speaker 1: a Wonka vater. Yeah. Downside there's a Hans House into
Speaker 1: big Little Wanka Wanka Willie something that like Micke is
Speaker 1: Mickey Minaj ever talk about color Wanka Yeahka, but it
Speaker 1: should be Willy Wonka. We're that bad bitch that came
Speaker 1: from Sri Lanka, A bad bitch that came from Willie Wanka.
Speaker 1: Where is the Willie Wanka rap community? What trapped inside?
Speaker 1: Where they are? They're trapped inside Wonka Tower because there
Speaker 1: in the Chocolate River. Yes, rowing they're they're going up
Speaker 1: the tube on their way to what was the where
Speaker 1: do they send him to the furnace? Terrifying? Yeah, those children.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about this with someone. Um. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's given enough clues that like they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: she gots into the furnace, but like sometimes they don't
Speaker 1: do the furnace on this day. If you get there
Speaker 1: fast enough where it's like they're not telling you they died,
Speaker 1: They're like giving you enough out, but like they they
Speaker 1: did the way they leave it is like the one
Speaker 1: kid is shrunk Dan, the one kids a giant ball,
Speaker 1: the one girls she gets juiced. Yeah, just straight up
Speaker 1: plummets down furnace, Yes to the furnace, And the other
Speaker 1: one is like drowns August to school. They got towns
Speaker 1: in the tropic No, no, no, he got sent to
Speaker 1: the marshmallow room or something and they turn them into
Speaker 1: a marshmallow. But then they're like maybe not. The thing
Speaker 1: is that you just run away with the mom and
Speaker 1: they're like, let's go check. You're sure it's fine. It's
Speaker 1: really fine. Physiological trauma, you're changing busy, lifting drinks, listing trauma.
Speaker 1: And then he's inherited, and then it's inherited. Wait, okay, wait,
Speaker 1: keep doing this. Okay. The rides no, no, no, the
Speaker 1: and that's you know, you know my deal. So that's
Speaker 1: my deal. I think there should be a three three
Speaker 1: busy DeBras coaster, three three busy Deboras and honestly three tracks.
Speaker 1: It never comes down, it only goes out. Oh because
Speaker 1: a couple of years where you don't hear from them,
Speaker 1: like like it kind of goes up and you don't
Speaker 1: hear from them for like a y and they're like
Speaker 1: and they're like, wasn't that a ride? And then and
Speaker 1: then it comes down and you're like, oh yeah. Everyone
Speaker 1: is always just like what happened? What happened? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: where what happened to? We're writing a show. We're writing,
Speaker 1: We're writing writing, That's what's happening. Development is hard development.
Speaker 1: People love to be in development. Hell's in Orlando. If
Speaker 1: I'm not in our development, Hell, yeah, that's beautiful. Can
Speaker 1: do you guys have this? I think I have a
Speaker 1: quick It's a lot of pressure. Schematic version is give it. Um.
Speaker 1: It's a Natalie apartment lifestyle where I'm married to like
Speaker 1: basically like a ballerino and I live in Paris. Wow
Speaker 1: that and and then I decided to poke my head
Speaker 1: back in the industry, the comedy industry. Are you a
Speaker 1: comedian at this point? Comedy? I think I'm a comedian still, um,
Speaker 1: but all my references are very disgusting European like a
Speaker 1: like a David Sadari's type exactly, like where it's like
Speaker 1: I'm funny, but I live in like the hills of France. Okay,
Speaker 1: that thank you so much, because at first I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess's Stanley permanent. It's it's David Sadaris, And maybe
Speaker 1: I do just maybe I do just do like one
Speaker 1: one stage, one live show every two years, and then
Speaker 1: I just write books, maybe basically Sadaris type essays and
Speaker 1: memorish essays. I should say I love that for you, Yes,
Speaker 1: And okay, I should just clarify that my theme park
Speaker 1: is hilarious. Everything about it is so funny. The games
Speaker 1: are so clear. Okay, yeah, they spunchin set up punchline
Speaker 1: that's really in fact broad. You can't even get in
Speaker 1: if you're not funny. You have to pass c before
Speaker 1: a while, passed using before a one in order to
Speaker 1: get actually actually the thin I started epons yeah, and
Speaker 1: pitched three as premises, pitch three death pieces, and I
Speaker 1: get and write write in fifty monologue jokes and I remember,
Speaker 1: got to check it out my park what is? And
Speaker 1: you have to do a bit with a person at
Speaker 1: the gate. They're like, we gotta keep running in, we
Speaker 1: gotta stop running into each other like this. And you're
Speaker 1: just seven minutes set in which you do fifteen different characters,
Speaker 1: which is great, blackout between each y. Okay, I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like mine was World of be an
Speaker 1: Amy Sitter sort of world. I feel like I would
Speaker 1: live here. I would live in New York. I would
Speaker 1: have a place where I had a Okay, okay, this
Speaker 1: is dream dream, dream floors in which we have we
Speaker 1: have a photo studio, we have a like area where
Speaker 1: i can do my aerial silks because I'm addicted to
Speaker 1: the stuff, to climbing up the curtain. Um and um.
Speaker 1: We'd have you know, we just have it all in
Speaker 1: the home and never leave. Occasionally go to the bodega
Speaker 1: and be like I'll have a diet coke and and goldfish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also fourteen year old run. Yes. They will still
Speaker 1: intimidate me, truly, the girls on Fire Island or the
Speaker 1: most because I was just was like, I'm not blond.
Speaker 1: They were all blonde. They were all like thin, I
Speaker 1: don't know a thing, Like they were thin and their
Speaker 1: hair was thick and blonde. Athletic soccer girls throw it
Speaker 1: up there. Yeah, these were all my girlfriends in high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tied I sweatshirt, little shorts, oh, those slides and Nike
Speaker 1: slides with socks. Yes, and then like they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to get pizza? Tara. That was Tara Sarah.
Speaker 1: That was the big adjustment was coming from um Connecticut
Speaker 1: to Long Island. I remember I had a friend named
Speaker 1: Tara and I would call her Tara, and my mom
Speaker 1: was like, they pronounced it tara. A truly shout out
Speaker 1: to all my friends from high school who did this job.
Speaker 1: They pronounce it as if you're going into a foreign country.
Speaker 1: It's a real culture number sixty six. They pronounce it tara.
Speaker 1: If goen here a very dewy thing. My grandpa once said,
Speaker 1: because he's from Brooklyn, and he asked my brother where
Speaker 1: he lives, and he said he lives on Myrtle and
Speaker 1: no Strand. And my my grandpa was like, you're pronouncing
Speaker 1: it wrong. It's pronounced mortal's fanning her hands up. Might wait.
Speaker 1: There was something that I was going to say when
Speaker 1: we were talking about Fiddler, uh when so you ustimately
Speaker 1: the translation. There was one thing that was very odd because, um,
Speaker 1: so there's that song where Tea is singing, you know,
Speaker 1: and and the lyrics are a little bird, little cavala,
Speaker 1: of course, and so the word for little bird is fagila,
Speaker 1: which is also the way you say yeah. So there
Speaker 1: it was just like this whole song of being like
Speaker 1: little fig and I just was saying, they're being like,
Speaker 1: oh for gay too, or yes, it's it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's dog under drog and it was just like a
Speaker 1: full number of little fig. I just was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, my old man Tamber, you just gave your voice.
Speaker 1: Jake and I were like grabbing each other. Jake's my brother,
Speaker 1: you know. For the fans, that's very funny and and
Speaker 1: honestly funny. What nothing, Please more high junks. It's time
Speaker 1: for I don't think so, honey, and I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. It's actually our one minute second where we
Speaker 1: take something in culture that doesn't sit well with us
Speaker 1: and we have one minute to rant on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I went ahead and got something.
Speaker 1: It's a pre select it. You might even say it's
Speaker 1: a pre select. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, and his time starts now. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, Easter. It's fucking weird. First of all, he rose, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. You all look the same.
Speaker 1: Y'all had long hair, and I'm assuming abs at the
Speaker 1: time he died ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Sorry, Christians. Okay. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey um, the whole Easter bunny
Speaker 1: of it all? What it's a large rodent. Why are
Speaker 1: we allowing this to be Listen, if I see a rodent,
Speaker 1: it's going to get exterminated. Hamy, I don't think so
Speaker 1: hides eggs on kids. That's frustrating. I don't want to
Speaker 1: look for ship. I want to know where things are.
Speaker 1: So what's in the eggs? Coins? They should all be
Speaker 1: taken out of you as units of of not culture
Speaker 1: of currency. It's about dollars, honey, and that's actually real
Speaker 1: of culture. Here's the thing about ter um. What are
Speaker 1: we eating? Ham truly like non specific? At least we
Speaker 1: know Thanksgiving we're getting a specific feast, which is a
Speaker 1: Turkey feast. Honestly, Easter, you have nothing more like Easter.
Speaker 1: No one likes Easter, and of course no one likes you.
Speaker 1: It's actually culture number forty six. Easter more like Easter,
Speaker 1: like Easterday, no one likes you, bitch, more like Easterday. Easterday.
Speaker 1: So Easterday like a bird story flown away. Honestly, that work.
Speaker 1: I love being mad about him because it's non specific.
Speaker 1: It's non specific is that holiday where my parents are
Speaker 1: always like Happy Easter, and I'm like, oh, I forget
Speaker 1: that people care, you know what I mean. That's that one.
Speaker 1: It's when Jesus came back. It's when he made his
Speaker 1: big return, when he when he dropped his ep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's when he's had just kidding, bitch. The bitch is
Speaker 1: back and he came back for a literally like truly
Speaker 1: five seconds and then rose up. That's the thing that
Speaker 1: always gets me is that he showed up and then
Speaker 1: he left where it was literally, so he's resurrected, and
Speaker 1: everyone everyone fucking loses their minds and then he immediately
Speaker 1: pieces and wait then wait, I thought he came back
Speaker 1: and did more good stuff comes he comes back and
Speaker 1: he's like, hi, does he get killed? So he gets
Speaker 1: He famously was crucified, and then three days later he
Speaker 1: rose again. And basically what he does when he's risen
Speaker 1: is he says to everyone in being risen, like I
Speaker 1: was real and your belief in me was not in vain,
Speaker 1: and I forgive you for allowing me to die, and
Speaker 1: I forgive you. And the theme of of of my
Speaker 1: existence is you know, forgiveness and etcetera, and then rising,
Speaker 1: and he rises and he goes back and he's like,
Speaker 1: I am I am God, I am the Son of God.
Speaker 1: And by and then he goes to have him and
Speaker 1: and that makes that has actually has absolutely nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Easter eggs? Where do the eggs come in birth?
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, you know, oh, is that it?
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. So what does the
Speaker 1: rabbit have to do with eggs? Um? What's the rabbit do?
Speaker 1: Rabbit to lay eggs? I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: like I think it's I think the rabbit thing is
Speaker 1: actually like a fusion of pagan imagery. Like hardcore Christian
Speaker 1: people hate East hate um Easter activities like they hate
Speaker 1: the rabbit, they hate the eggs. So like that's the
Speaker 1: rabbit stuff is like pagan imagery mixed with like Christian imagery.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Well, and with that, I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey and his time it starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so many responding to my dms with emojis.
Speaker 1: Don't dismiss me, bitch. I want to keep talking to you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna end the conversation. You can just end the
Speaker 1: conversation on a word honey, truly try it out, bitch,
Speaker 1: because you're rotting your brain by tapping back a fucking
Speaker 1: hard eyes emoji at me. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: that means. Do you want to have sex with me
Speaker 1: or not? This is this is not targeted. Don't unlike
Speaker 1: you to bail realizing this is not exclusive to sexual
Speaker 1: d ms, it's also exclusive. It's inclusive of all types
Speaker 1: of d ms. Emojis are dismissive, and I think we
Speaker 1: should all clock that and say, you know, don't, don't
Speaker 1: push me away. I respect your boundaries, but you can
Speaker 1: tell me that with words and not with imagery and
Speaker 1: glish invented by Japanese people that you were now you
Speaker 1: are now not appropriating. You are misappropriating, misappropriate, honey. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means, but I stand by and look.
Speaker 1: Emojis emojis are only should only be used for tweets
Speaker 1: and texts, that's one not dms. How do you respond
Speaker 1: if if a random person responds to your story? That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You don't respond? You do respond? See
Speaker 1: I feel bad if I don't respond. Of course you do,
Speaker 1: because it's rude. I saw the heart you do you
Speaker 1: double tap, or you send heart emojis, or I say
Speaker 1: ha ha, or I say you know, like yeah, if
Speaker 1: you like, if you if I double tap the message,
Speaker 1: I love that. That's perfect. If someone double taps my message,
Speaker 1: I'm like, great. They don't want this to dip into
Speaker 1: a full conversation. I can respect that. But the emojis
Speaker 1: are this weird liminal space where you are telling me
Speaker 1: you have a boundary. You don't want to keep going
Speaker 1: with words. I don't know if that's true. I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of the implicit understanding. See. I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting because it always has to end at some point.
Speaker 1: It does. Can you can be like I missed the
Speaker 1: days when you'd be like T T I L. I
Speaker 1: talked about this on se treatment. But because I talked
Speaker 1: a lot about sweeping the scene in improv, I would
Speaker 1: say sending an emoji is sweeping the scene. It is.
Speaker 1: That's okay, fine, all right, Well, maybe you just have
Speaker 1: to deal with the fact sometimes people just are done
Speaker 1: talking an improv expert. Yes, Sandy, that's my web series,
Speaker 1: look it up. Okay, So who's about to do one?
Speaker 1: I can't remember if I did this on a live
Speaker 1: show or not, but just improv Queen Sandy Jonah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: really good at improv. I don't think so, honey. Squatty potties, Okay,
Speaker 1: have the decency If I am coming over to your
Speaker 1: house and your squatty potty is still in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I don't want to see
Speaker 1: a white plastic geriatric thing in your bathroom that is
Speaker 1: covered in your piss pubes and it is like especially
Speaker 1: in a male household or you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say male, because that is you know, that is transsclusive.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're at a home with Dix
Speaker 1: and you are pissing in a toilet and you have
Speaker 1: a squatty potty, you gotta put it away when you
Speaker 1: have guests. I don't know what to step on your piss. Also,
Speaker 1: what are you a baby? What are you a baby?
Speaker 1: And your geriatric what you can't you can't shift probiotic?
Speaker 1: Eat a band? I'm sorry? What do you need to
Speaker 1: put your ears? Your legs? Buy your ears for Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The squatty potty needs to go,
Speaker 1: put it in a closet, put it away. And I'm
Speaker 1: unclear because okay, I'm with you on they shouldn't be
Speaker 1: displayed as prominently, and probably because I don't necessarily when
Speaker 1: I'm in the bathroom, I want to forget that anyone
Speaker 1: else has ever exactly I picture the person every time
Speaker 1: I if I see a squatty potty in your house,
Speaker 1: I'm going to picture you getting a ship with your
Speaker 1: knees by your ears. And I don't want that image
Speaker 1: and I don't want to see it. And I will say, though, recently,
Speaker 1: I went to a house and this guy had a
Speaker 1: wooden squatty potty that was elegant, honestly constructed, because there's
Speaker 1: no dumb little grooves where pissing ship gets caught. That's
Speaker 1: why would it be white? I know, why would it
Speaker 1: be white? You can see everything, I guess because most
Speaker 1: most bathrooms have like prominently white like a coloring, which
Speaker 1: is also wrong. Toilets should be brown. Toilets should be
Speaker 1: brown and yellow. You know what, Yeah, because that would
Speaker 1: solve a lot of issues. I used to have a
Speaker 1: like black toilet. Those are so sleek, but you can
Speaker 1: still see the poop clinging to the bowl. I love
Speaker 1: a black toilet anytime I'm like it's like it's it's sexual.
Speaker 1: Can you get a pink toilet? Get this? Have you
Speaker 1: ever shipped on a toilet with a fuzzy seat like
Speaker 1: with like a like a like a like like It's
Speaker 1: crazy when you think about it, because if poop gets
Speaker 1: in that like Mattress's seed cover, it's not coming out. Well.
Speaker 1: The other thing is how many times have you been
Speaker 1: in the bathroom and there's a little tinkle on the
Speaker 1: seat and then that and then you think, okay, so
Speaker 1: this is just in there? Just yeah. I also feel
Speaker 1: like if you leave the bathroom and it's not spotless,
Speaker 1: that's bad. You need to take toilepeper and wipe the sea. Yes,
Speaker 1: wipe the sea and true. And also I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: know we're all trying to save water, but I flush
Speaker 1: your piss. I don't want to see piss in the toilet.
Speaker 1: That's how That's who I am. Well, it starts to stink. Yes,
Speaker 1: it also stains, And it stains, it stinks. It's it's
Speaker 1: called the courtesy flush people too, because sometimes not one
Speaker 1: flush is enough. I know, you know what what, I
Speaker 1: moved into an apartment three years ago. I have never
Speaker 1: once clogged this toilet. Good for you, it's a good No,
Speaker 1: it's a good bowl. No, it's always about it's white,
Speaker 1: but I got a pink seat for it. Gorge gorgeous,
Speaker 1: and you know what else is gorge this entire What
Speaker 1: a fun time. I had fun. This was please to
Speaker 1: know that we can connect over parrohead culture, it's huge.
Speaker 1: I really don't know. Anyone else says, yeah, it's huge
Speaker 1: to know that his book is truly sitting right there.
Speaker 1: And I clocked that before and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. And then when you said that, No, I
Speaker 1: don't in the book. I've never read any of his books.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know about the books. You didn't
Speaker 1: know that he was already did not know about the look?
Speaker 1: Is that a novel? A pirate looks looks? Sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So it is a song as well? Oh it is?
Speaker 1: I hope he writes. I could write a novel based
Speaker 1: on every one of his songs. They're so deep, go hard.
Speaker 1: They all tell the story. And some of it funny too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, why don't we get you know? One makes
Speaker 1: me laugh. There's one I don't remember. It's like called
Speaker 1: the weather is here. I wish you were beautiful. The
Speaker 1: weather is he I wish you were beautiful. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: what a beautiful beautiful you know. It was a really
Speaker 1: quick good one. Fruitcakes, fruitcakes. Its funny, Okay, comedy takes
Speaker 1: us about everyone's crazy. It's a comedy song. I I
Speaker 1: it's a comedy song, is the thing, and this is much.
Speaker 1: The thing about Jimmy Beckett is that he towed the
Speaker 1: line between comedy musician and Earnest rock. You could say
Speaker 1: he's a singing comedian. He's a singing comedian. He's like
Speaker 1: he's a weird out just oh my god, this is insane,
Speaker 1: jutting out crazy statement. No, I'm just it's so funny
Speaker 1: that but like to prefer to him sitting in comedians
Speaker 1: but kind of, isn't that weird? It's the ultimate character.
Speaker 1: It's the ultimate character. He is gonna on his last
Speaker 1: day of his life. He's gonna say, fucking you all
Speaker 1: bought because the fact that we've all bought it is
Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, god, it's like I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: he's gonna go Andy Kaufman, Mitch, Yeah, this year for
Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman. He actually I heard he's uh, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get Jfl's. He actually doesn't have a comedy wraps um,
Speaker 1: this isn't thank you so much for being thank for
Speaker 1: having This is the most fun. And you know what,
Speaker 1: We end every um. We end every episode with the song.
Speaker 1: I don't think we all know what that song is
Speaker 1: going to be. She's burning Paradise cheeseburger and Paradise Wow.
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