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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John middlecop three and out

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Speaker 1: I think the last basically month. We're having two podcasts

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Speaker 1: I got like thirty questions. I'm a little behind. I'll

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Speaker 1: bang out a bunch this week. I try to bang

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Speaker 1: get to those Middlecoff mail bag I do on every show. Today,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk and just watch Monday Night football. We've

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Speaker 1: get into that Sunday Night game. Also talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about one team I think that's almost flying under

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Speaker 1: the radar, that's four and two in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: most seven teams. Uh. You know we're gonna see for

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Speaker 1: those four playoffs spots. But let's start with tonight Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football. Uh, Packers Niners. Listen. I'm born and raised

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Speaker 1: in northern California. Some of the best games of my life,

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Speaker 1: uh far of young Kaepernick. Rogers. Uh, they've played some very,

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Speaker 1: very entertaining games over the years. Ironically, McCarthy was with

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners when they hired him. Remember, statistically, the

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Speaker 1: Niners offense was terrible, they still hired him. Has obviously

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Speaker 1: gone on there to have an excellent career. But before

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Speaker 1: I don't think they would fire them because they're very

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Speaker 1: much like the Pittsburgh Steelers. But we talked about this

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Speaker 1: because it's unlike like in business, if you're making money,

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Speaker 1: the business is to make money. Now you can still

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Speaker 1: see big picture like newspapers ten years ago, smart people

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Speaker 1: could see they were even though they were making money,

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Speaker 1: was headed in the wrong direction. Magazine same thing, like

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Speaker 1: Rolling Stone Sports illustrated some of these magazines. The game

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Speaker 1: just changed right the way advertising, the way sales people

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Speaker 1: The brick and mortar like you can start to get

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Speaker 1: a field for like bookstores and movie stores like they

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Speaker 1: were in trouble. You know, you can get a field

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Speaker 1: just watching the packers that something is not right, Like

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Speaker 1: win a lot of games. So I don't give you

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Speaker 1: games in the last eight years too. Obviously they lost,

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Speaker 1: team was you know, okay, but they had that run

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Speaker 1: like a three year stretch because defensively, and this has

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Speaker 1: I root for ball guys. But Robert Slots, defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: we easily make fun of them because their owner moved

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Speaker 1: them from San Diego to l A. I still consider

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Speaker 1: them the San Diego Chargers. The evaluation of the team

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Speaker 1: only went up by like a hundred million dollars. They

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Speaker 1: pay a dollar rent to basically just piggyback off stand.

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Speaker 1: No one cares about them. In Los Angeles they play

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Speaker 1: in front of like twenty five thou people and every

433
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Speaker 1: team they play consistently has more fans than them. But

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Speaker 1: when you peel back the end and you just go,

435
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Speaker 1: let's just look at the football team, they are to

436
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Speaker 1: me the third best team in the a f C

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Speaker 1: and probably a top five or six team in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They have an excellent defense. Joey Bosa has not even

439
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Speaker 1: played a snap for them, and he is their best

440
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Speaker 1: defensive player. And that's saying something because Melvin Ingram is

441
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Speaker 1: damn good. But offensively is where they're on a different

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Speaker 1: level right now. Philip Rivers is sneaky having a m

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Speaker 1: v P type season. He's got fifteen touchdowns, he's got uh,

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Speaker 1: he's almost throwing se completion percentage. Now that's a little

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Speaker 1: skewed in this day and age. I get it, but

446
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Speaker 1: you just to me, he just passed the eye test.

447
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Speaker 1: You watch him, he's playing elite football. But to me,

448
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: the game changer for them, and this is when the

449
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: Chargers were really humming in their prime with like Marty

450
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Speaker 1: and Rivers and Drew Brees was with LT. And when

451
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Speaker 1: you can run the ball and you have a dynamic runner,

452
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Speaker 1: they can do everything. Run inside, run outside, throw the

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Speaker 1: ball too. They took this guy in the first round.

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Speaker 1: And listen the last guy that they tried to replace

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Speaker 1: LT with. I have a soft spot for Ryan Matthews,

456
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Speaker 1: who was draft in the first round that I was

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Speaker 1: around when I was a g A at Frezen State.

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Speaker 1: I thought he warranted the pick. Career didn't go right

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Speaker 1: and he never quite lived. I mean he just never did,

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Speaker 1: but he went on. I think he had one season

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Speaker 1: where he had a thousand yards for them, but he

462
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Speaker 1: was always hurt. This guy, Melvin Gordon, when they drafted

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Speaker 1: him at the fifteenth overall draft pick. His first year,

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Speaker 1: he looked terrible. He did not even have a rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And then these last couple of years he has really

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Speaker 1: come on this year. I was just looking at some

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Speaker 1: of the stats uh before recording this podcast. He's averaging

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Speaker 1: over five yards a rush. He has six rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: But in two thousand eighteen, to be if you're a

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Speaker 1: first round pick, you have to be a complete back. Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what, he's got thirty catches and three touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: the air, like Melvin Gordon is a complete back. He's

473
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Speaker 1: a top five running back in this league right now,

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Speaker 1: and no one even talks about partly because he plays

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Speaker 1: on a team that's kind of line under the radar.

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Speaker 1: They got Keenan Allen. They got the kid Tyrrell Williams

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Speaker 1: that just can run like the wind. They got Mike

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Speaker 1: Williams that hasn't really pissed a drop, who was a

479
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Speaker 1: first round pick, Anttio Gates still flying around out there.

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Speaker 1: They're finally protecting rivers like this team, to me, could

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Speaker 1: make some noise come January and listen I have. I'm

482
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Speaker 1: not a fan of the owner, Dean uh R. I

483
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Speaker 1: p his dad, Alex, who who passed away last year.

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Speaker 1: But Dean since running it and basically has taken control.

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Speaker 1: I think in the late nineties has done a very

486
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Speaker 1: very poor job consistently, and I don't think Anthony Lynn

487
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Speaker 1: is very good. But luckily they can overcome it too

488
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Speaker 1: fold becus Bradley runs the defense and that's just his baby,

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Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers runs the offense. I don't really know

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Speaker 1: what Anthony Lynn does. Uh. Now there is gonna be

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Speaker 1: some pressure on Rivers playing big in big games. You know,

492
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Speaker 1: there are only one game behind the Chiefs right now. Now,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to play Kansas City later this season.

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Speaker 1: In Kansas City, that's gonna be difficult. But you look

495
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Speaker 1: at like he's one playoff games before he's one big games.

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Speaker 1: They do have a team that when you can play defense,

497
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Speaker 1: when you can run the ball, when you have possession

498
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Speaker 1: type wide receivers, that stuff does translate the cold, tough environments,

499
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Speaker 1: you know, the Baltimores, the Kansas Cities, the New England's

500
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Speaker 1: like they could make a run. I don't think it's crazy.

501
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet on them, but I'm starting to take

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Speaker 1: them a lot seriously, more seriously than I have in

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Speaker 1: years past. I get it was the Browns, and listen,

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Speaker 1: if the Browns had a good coach, they'd be a

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Speaker 1: playoff team too, and said they got Hugh Jackson, they're

506
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Speaker 1: gonna win nothing. The Charters went into Cleveland and beat

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Speaker 1: the living crap out of them, I mean, just backhanded them.

508
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Speaker 1: And that's type when you go, Okay, this team is good.

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Speaker 1: You know this team is not going away. And then

510
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Speaker 1: the way football works, like if you're just one or

511
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Speaker 1: two games behind with eight games to go with a

512
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Speaker 1: team in your division, like you're in pretty good shape,

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Speaker 1: especially if you play them again, like you control a

514
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Speaker 1: lot of your own destiny. Now, if you're four games

515
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Speaker 1: behind with five games left, yeah, you're it says in baseball,

516
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Speaker 1: you're screwed, you know, But as long as you can

517
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Speaker 1: keep one or two game cushion and you still have

518
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Speaker 1: that game against Kansas City, Like you know Kansas City's

519
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, their defense is so bad and I think

520
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Speaker 1: they're damn good, probably gonna win eleven or twelve games.

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Speaker 1: They're not a fourteen win team. You can't win your

522
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Speaker 1: defense is that terrible. You're not gonna win fourteen games.

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Speaker 1: And like even this week for Kansas City, they're playing

524
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati at home, Like that's a tough game, Like that's

525
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Speaker 1: gonna be a tough game from home, Cincinnati's defense is

526
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Speaker 1: really good. They've lost two games in a row. Now,

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Speaker 1: I guess they've lost one game in a row because

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Speaker 1: they beat Miami, but they lost one game just to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Is the Pittsburgh that they shouldn't have lost. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they were winning the game and then Antonio Brown took

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Speaker 1: that pass to the house without much time left. But

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Speaker 1: since Natty could be Kansas City like Mahomes is, and

533
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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Mahomes guy, but he's gonna take his lumps.

534
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Speaker 1: You're just gonna have a bad game eventually, even at home.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, he we thought he was having a

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Speaker 1: against New England. Then Boomy turned it on the second half.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think Cincinnati is really good. Cincinnati's top

538
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Speaker 1: five a f C team, you know, So this is

539
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Speaker 1: a tough week. I do not think the Chargers are

540
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Speaker 1: out of it in the division. I think it'll be

541
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Speaker 1: difficult for them to win the division, but they're definitely

542
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Speaker 1: not out of it. And I think, you know, we're

543
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Speaker 1: a couple of games away from them being a borderline

544
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Speaker 1: lock playoff team and just one of those playoff teams

545
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Speaker 1: like I have, I'd have more faith in Rivers and

546
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Speaker 1: that defense and Melvin Gordon going on the road and

547
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Speaker 1: beating Kansas City in New England than I would Cincinnati.

548
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Speaker 1: Like I can't envision Andy Dalton polling that off. I

549
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: can envision Rivers, you know, So just just keep San Diego.

550
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Speaker 1: I refuse to call them Los Angeles in the back

551
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Speaker 1: of your head as a team to watch, because I

552
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: think they're pretty damn good. Let's get into a little

553
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Speaker 1: college football before we get into the Middlecoff mail bag,

554
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Speaker 1: because I I do think that the playoff picture has

555
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's in, you know, set in concrete

556
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Speaker 1: as I sit here with boarding this October, but we

557
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: got a pretty damn good idea of the seven eight

558
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: teams they're gonna make it. I I would say the

559
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Speaker 1: top three or feel like a lock, and that there's

560
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: a swing state, you know, if this was an election. Uh,

561
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Speaker 1: just because the game hasn't been played, but you know

562
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: more than likely that the fourth team I feel pretty confident. Really, Uh,

563
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Speaker 1: let's just go through it, and this would be my

564
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Speaker 1: personal ranking. This is I I think it's not really

565
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: many arguments right now. Number One Bama easily the most

566
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Speaker 1: explosive offense, uh they've had in the saban Era. When

567
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Speaker 1: two is on, he's basically unstoppable. They got receivers, I

568
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: mean it looks like they got two or three a

569
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Speaker 1: Marii Cooper's. They obviously can run the ball. Defensively, they fly,

570
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: fly around and just crush people. You never bet against

571
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Speaker 1: Nick saban They really have one tough home game or

572
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: excuse me, away game left on the schedule, and that's

573
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Speaker 1: at l s U, who's actually sneaky still alive. Just

574
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: got a big win at Georgia. But I do feel

575
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Speaker 1: pretty often at the Alabama will handle business. My number

576
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: two team would be Notre Dame. If you've watched them

577
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Speaker 1: start to finish, you could argue they've had a better

578
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Speaker 1: season so far than Alabama. They kicked Michigan's ass. I

579
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: know the score was closer than it looked. Uh you

580
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: know the week one now was at home. They got

581
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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Couple weeks ago on the road, they kicked

582
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Speaker 1: Stanford's ass. Who I listen, Stanfords not you know, probably

583
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: eight nine win team, but Notre Dame backhanded him. Notre

584
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: Dame has an excellent defense. They can really run the ball,

585
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: and the quarterback does enough. Like to me, they are

586
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: a legitimate playoff team if they run the table. They

587
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Speaker 1: really just have one tough game. I don't know how

588
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: tough it is against USC. I think Notre Dame. I

589
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: don't want to say borderline lock because I don't totally

590
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: trust them to go twelve and oh, but they feel

591
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Speaker 1: pretty close to the lock. Like I'm pretty confident they're

592
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Speaker 1: gonna be in the playoffs. Three Clemson, Uh, They've been

593
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Speaker 1: up and down this year, but here's what I know.

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Speaker 1: When the freshman quarterbacks in the offense has a huge

595
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: up side, they can still run the ball and defensively

596
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: they have elite talent like they have Alabama level talent

597
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: on defense. They have a defensive coordinator that makes almost

598
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: two million dollars for a reason. They are a super

599
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 1: high level team like their high high end. Though they

600
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: have not played there this year. They deserve to go

601
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 1: like they can play with anyone in the playoffs. If

602
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: they play well now, they can easily get beat in

603
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Round one. I do think that the a c C stinks,

604
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: but they do deserve it. Like Clemson is a playoff

605
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: level roster, a roster loaded with NFL dudes. So I

606
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: know this. If they figure it out, this last month

607
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs, because I they're gonna run the table.

608
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: Then if they just start playing better, that Trevor Lawrence

609
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Speaker 1: gets healthy and you know, I know he came back,

610
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: but I just mean, like, if he's playing well as

611
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Speaker 1: they head into the playoffs, like they can win the

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00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: whole thing. And number four right now, it's kind of

613
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Speaker 1: fluid because the Hardbaugh haters have kind of been shut up.

614
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Speaker 1: One the one loss he has Notre Dame turns out

615
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: there the second or third best team in the country.

616
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a playoff team. The game was on

617
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Speaker 1: the road. Since then, all Hardbo has done his kick ass.

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Speaker 1: He had probably his best win of his career was

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night against Wisconsin where they just man handled Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Who is good. You know it's probably gonna go nine

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Speaker 1: and three this year, just just slapped them around. Don't

622
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: get this twisted either. Jim did not have his best player, Gary,

623
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, did not play in the game. Now,

624
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State hasn't had their best player either in uh

625
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: Joey Bose's brother Nick for the last several games either.

626
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: But to me, that last spot is more than likely

627
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna come down to that game because I think Michigan.

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Speaker 1: They play Michigan State this week. It's at Michigan State,

629
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Speaker 1: so that game will be tough. Michigan State just had

630
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: a big upset of Penn State. Uh so that's no

631
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: lacklock win. They still have to play Penn State. But

632
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: if they can win those next two games, then I

633
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Speaker 1: think they got Rutgers in Indiana. If they could run

634
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: the table and be ten and one going into that

635
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State game and Ohio State is undefeated in that game,

636
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: and they could beat Ohio State at Ohio State, Michigan

637
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be in the playoffs. In your playoffs would Bebama,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Clemson in Michigan. Now the curve ball would

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Speaker 1: be l s U, who had a bad loss to

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Speaker 1: Florida game was at Florida, just had an incredible win

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Speaker 1: at home against Georgia. Well, in two weeks they play Alabama.

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Speaker 1: If l s U were to beat Alabama, they would

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Speaker 1: bump Alabama and L s U would be in the

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Speaker 1: mixing in the driver's seat to potentially play Georgia or

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Speaker 1: Florida again in the SEC championship game and in control

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Speaker 1: their own destiny. Like L s U is in a

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Speaker 1: pretty good spot for being kind of an underdog. Like

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Speaker 1: to me, they are the fifth team on the outside

649
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Speaker 1: looking in that does control a lot of their destiny

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Speaker 1: just because they have Alabama in a couple of weeks. Now,

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Speaker 1: can they beat can Eddio beat Nick Saban? I don't know,

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00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: but you gotta give eddios do Like his teams played hard,

653
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Speaker 1: They well coached, He's got expensive coordinators, quarterback makes enough plays.

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Speaker 1: They clearly got talent running the ball at running back

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Speaker 1: and at wide receiver. Defensively, they got freaks everywhere. Like

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Speaker 1: to me, L. S U. They might not make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but you could throw them in the playoffs and they

658
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Speaker 1: could win the whole thing. Like they do have a

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Speaker 1: playoff level team. I feel very confident about saying that.

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Speaker 1: You could argue that L. S U. Like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that they, you know, necessarily deserve this because Clemson's

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Speaker 1: one more game, but they're a better team than Clemson,

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Speaker 1: like just better. They played better as a team than Clemson.

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Speaker 1: You could make that argument, and I listen, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that's true or I'm saying it's false, but they

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Speaker 1: have moments that they their game against Georgia's probably more

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Speaker 1: in plessant impressive than anything Clemson has done this year. Now,

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Speaker 1: Clemson is gonna win their conference, and it's proven it

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Speaker 1: the last three years. So I'm not trying to diminish

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Speaker 1: Clemson's talent ability or resume relative to L s U.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you could make the argument. Michigan, as

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Speaker 1: I said, is right in the mix. I think you've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of sleepers. Like to me, u c

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Speaker 1: F has no chance the what this thing's rigged, and

675
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Speaker 1: it's rigged for Big five. It's rigged for big business.

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Speaker 1: A Nonpower five school is not getting in the final

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Speaker 1: four playoffs. It's just not happening. They would take a

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Speaker 1: team like Oregon as a one lost team. If Oregon

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Speaker 1: order run the table with Justin Herbert, who is gonna

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Speaker 1: be the number one overall pick before they would UCF.

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Speaker 1: If Texas runs the table with wins over USC that

682
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Speaker 1: might win nine or ten games. Oklahoma, it's gonna win

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Speaker 1: ten games. Texas would get in over UCF. And again

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Speaker 1: I got no problem, Like, I'm sorry, UCF, you're not

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Speaker 1: getting in the playoffs. I don't want to see you

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I'd rather see Oregon or Texas in

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Speaker 1: there if some of these teams, you know, screw up

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. So right now I got Bama, Notre Dame, Clemson,

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Speaker 1: the winner of Ohio State, Michigan with l s U

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Speaker 1: and in Texas and Oregon kind of lurking. Oregon would

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Speaker 1: be a really really long shot. In Texas would just

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Speaker 1: need a little carnage that there. They are not totally dead.

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Speaker 1: I owe an apology. I thought Tom Herman was terrible.

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Speaker 1: I thought the hype on him was beyond extreme. Turns

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Speaker 1: is pretty good coach. You know. It turns out I

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Speaker 1: might have been wrong, just because I just I thought

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Speaker 1: the hype was so strong. He's he's a good coach.

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Speaker 1: So this this playoffs, while we got a pretty good idea,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be the six seven teams? I like all

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Speaker 1: these teams. I'm very excited. It should be very fun. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the middle Coff mail bag, and you

702
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Speaker 1: can always hit me up on Instagram at John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: Slide up in those d m s and I will

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Speaker 1: answer your questions. Right now. Last segment of the show,

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Speaker 1: I got a bunch, so it's I'm a little behind

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Speaker 1: I'll bang out a bunch for this one, and then

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Speaker 1: I'll bang out more for Friday. Just keep hitting me

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Speaker 1: up and if I don't answer your question on this,

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Speaker 1: I will answer it on Instagram. So I'm active on

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Speaker 1: social media if you're not following me Twitter, Instagram, same

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Speaker 1: handle at John Middlecoff. Start with this question from BT

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Speaker 1: dot awesome. With the history of the pat starting slow

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Speaker 1: then playing great as the season goes on, what are

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Speaker 1: the chances the Lions have figured things out with Matt Patricia.

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Speaker 1: After looking pretty good the last few weeks, they actually

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Speaker 1: also look decent against the Niners offensively. I will say

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Speaker 1: one thing for the Lions their pass game with Tate,

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Speaker 1: with Marvin Jones, with the Galladay guy, and with the

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Speaker 1: running back you can all catch the ball Riddick Abdullah,

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Speaker 1: uh Carrie on Johnson who they drafted from Auburn. Their

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Speaker 1: offensive explosion in the past game is when they're on,

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Speaker 1: they can score with anyone like Mahomes, Brady, you name it.

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Speaker 1: They can really score and most years you'd be like,

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Speaker 1: well O, their defense sucks are kind of soft. They

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Speaker 1: can't really run the ball. They're actually running the ball

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Speaker 1: better with Kerry on Johnson, but that those type teams

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Speaker 1: don't really last well. The game's kind of changed now.

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Speaker 1: The rules are pretty conducive to what the Lions do

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Speaker 1: really well, so I'm not writing them off at all.

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Speaker 1: I think they are. They might be better in the Packers,

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Speaker 1: like I'm watching the Packers a night now. We've obviously

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Speaker 1: watched the Lions play the Packers. They're just more explosive

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Speaker 1: on offense, and it's not like the Packers are any

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Speaker 1: good on defense. Minnesota is just kind of a weird

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Speaker 1: team though. I think they're the best most talented team

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Speaker 1: in the division. But the first round pick, the the

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Speaker 1: rookie corner huge just towards a c L. The Bears

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Speaker 1: are probably a year away, like it's I thought they'd

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Speaker 1: go ten and six now after the Miami loss. That

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Speaker 1: probably more of an eight and eight team, but they

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Speaker 1: could still might be getting nine and seven. But I

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Speaker 1: think all these teams, if you told me any one

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Speaker 1: of the Lions would probably be the biggest stretch. But

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Speaker 1: Stafford's made the playoffs multiple times and again they can

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Speaker 1: really score. Jim Bob Cooter is really good like he

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Speaker 1: just is now as Matt Patricia a good head coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm not writing him off yet.

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Speaker 1: And I've hated on him earlier, but you got to

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Speaker 1: give him credit because everyone was pouring gasoline on them,

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Speaker 1: and he's kind of risen from the ashes. And again,

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Speaker 1: they do have a pretty good player at the most

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Speaker 1: important position. Is the first player you'd pick in a

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Speaker 1: fantasy draft. Maybe in a fantasy draft, but in a

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Speaker 1: reality draft. No, you know, relative to the other quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the league. But he's still pretty damn good. And

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Speaker 1: that's Matt Stafford. And he's got a ton of weapons,

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Speaker 1: and he's got an offensive coordinator that knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: So I I don't know if they're gonna make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna be heard from it as

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Speaker 1: the season goes on. For the mail back, Will chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly turned it around at U c l A. I've

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Speaker 1: said over and over and over again that I don't

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Speaker 1: think chip Kelly has a great point of difference anymore.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't value defense, and offensively, what he does every

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Speaker 1: team does. Every good team operates with pace, can go,

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Speaker 1: no huddle, can snap the ball with thirty five seconds

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Speaker 1: left on the on the play clock. Like a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams do that. So Chip has not shown the

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Speaker 1: ability since he went to the NFL to adapt at all.

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Speaker 1: That's all he does. So can he change? Can he

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Speaker 1: get u c l A competitive? I got news for you.

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Speaker 1: They were kind of competitive when Jim Morrow was there.

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Speaker 1: They managed to a PAC twelve championship game. You know,

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Speaker 1: they were winning seven eight games. Is Chip Kelly gonna

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Speaker 1: be a ten eleven win coach at US No? I

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Speaker 1: do not think it. Is. He gonna be a train wreck.

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Speaker 1: Probably not because u c l A always gets talented

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Speaker 1: players and Chip is a good offensive coach. The thing is,

779
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Speaker 1: his offense is just not that unique anymore. Now the South,

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Speaker 1: Like to me, Arizona State is going to continue to

781
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Speaker 1: get better with her Medwards, Arizona sucks. USC still USC

782
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: getting better players. Utah and Colorado are just talented and

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Speaker 1: they've been in the conference for a while and they're

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Speaker 1: just good. Like Utah is really tough on defense, Colorado

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Speaker 1: and Mike McIntyre are it's just good. They're just a

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Speaker 1: solid program. So it's gonna be difficult. Like is he

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Speaker 1: is Chip Kelly right now a better coach than Kyle

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Speaker 1: Whittingham and Mac McIntyre and Mike McIntyre. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He surely was, you know, six years ago. But I

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Speaker 1: don't hold on to things from way in the past

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Speaker 1: as long as some people like guys this two thousand eighteen, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was kicking as in two thousand twelve at Oregon. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's two it's almost two thousand nineteen. It's almost two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. So holding onto some of those Oregon teams,

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Speaker 1: I think it's somewhat of a stretch. John, I love

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Speaker 1: the show. Was wondering if you think this is a

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Speaker 1: good one? Actually, because I tweeted this out, do you

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Speaker 1: think I was wondering if Justin Herbert is a better

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Speaker 1: NFL prospect than Marcus Mariotta was his last year at Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, keep up the good work. Tyler from Oregon.

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Speaker 1: I tweeted this out during the Oregon Washington game. This

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Speaker 1: tweet was actually this This d M was actually from

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Speaker 1: last week. But do you think that Justin Herbert is

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Speaker 1: a better pro prospect than Marcus Mariotta was his last

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Speaker 1: season at Oregon. And I'm watching the Oregon Washington game game,

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Speaker 1: and you know, about halfway through, and I've watched her

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Speaker 1: bird a couple of games earlier this season game against Stanford.

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is a better pro prospect than Marcus Mariota.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that m MQB style because Marcus

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Speaker 1: Mariota is kind of struggling in the NFL. He's just

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Speaker 1: physically more gifted. He's a more gifted thrower of the football.

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Speaker 1: To me, he's much more of a traditional pocket quarterback,

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Speaker 1: where Mark Mariotta really was more of an athletic version

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Speaker 1: of like Alex Smith. People crushed me once time when

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Speaker 1: I said that, and it's kind of been proven true,

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Speaker 1: like Mariota is a pretty flawed player. Though I like

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Speaker 1: Mariota and I personally root for him because he's a

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Speaker 1: great guy. But coming out of Oregon, throw the stats

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Speaker 1: away because mariota stats were incredible. Justin Herbert is just

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Speaker 1: a better pro prospect. Justin Herbert is a lock if

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Speaker 1: he comes out. Some people in the NFL don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a lock because his brother is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: true freshman year in organ so there is I'm always

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Speaker 1: hesitant to say a guy's going to go back to

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Speaker 1: school when he's a lock number one pick or even

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Speaker 1: a top five pick, like Sam Donald. He was a

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Speaker 1: red shirt sophomore last year and people are like, I

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Speaker 1: might go back to school. It turns out he didn't

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Speaker 1: and he went pro and he's really good and he's

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Speaker 1: balling for the Jets. Like now, the brother thing is

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Speaker 1: kind of unique, Like if you're if you're really close

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Speaker 1: to your brother, he's gonna be a freshman. You get

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Speaker 1: to play college football with your brother. Now, if he's

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Speaker 1: a freshman, he may red shirt, but you still get

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Speaker 1: to being on campus with him. That is pretty rare

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Speaker 1: and unique. Still, I would lean he ends up going

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Speaker 1: pro and I would imagine all the big time agents

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Speaker 1: are trying to get with him, trying to convince him

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Speaker 1: to become a pro. But he's gonna be a lock

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Speaker 1: for number one overall pick. I also think he's just

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Speaker 1: gonna be better than Mariota in the pros. Like I

842
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Speaker 1: just think it's he's gonna be good. I would draft

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Speaker 1: him number one overall. I would put him in the

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Speaker 1: mix the last three or four years of one of

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Speaker 1: the better players to come out. You know, Jared Goff

846
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Speaker 1: went one obviously, that year, Wentz went you know to

847
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Speaker 1: last year. All the quarterbacks that came out to me

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Speaker 1: Herbert's right in the mix with them all. He is

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Speaker 1: just from a talent standpoint, he is that talented. He's

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Speaker 1: basically like, uh, you know, he doesn't have quite the

851
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: arm of like Josh Allen, but he does have a

852
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Speaker 1: big arm, but he does kind of have a loopy

853
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Speaker 1: release a little bit like Mahomes where he doesn't throw

854
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Speaker 1: the ball quite as hard. I mean, he's a really

855
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Speaker 1: really I mean, I don't want to call him elite

856
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Speaker 1: pro prospect, but he's a damn good pro prospect. He's

857
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Speaker 1: damn good. So I I look forward. Organ is good

858
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Speaker 1: and they're mainly good because of him, Like, he is

859
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Speaker 1: really good. They're a fun watch. He's a fun watch,

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Speaker 1: excellent player, and someone is whether they trade up, whether

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Speaker 1: a team like the Niners or the Giants or the

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Speaker 1: Raiders trade back, who knows Raiders might take him, uh,

863
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Giants would take him too, but like, dude,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos trade up, he's just going one. I promise

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Speaker 1: you that. Hey, John, big fan of the show, I'm

866
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Speaker 1: a huge Packer fan and wanted to get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on who the Packers should go after once they let

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Speaker 1: McCarthy go. I like Mike and appreciate what he's done

869
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: for the franchise, but it's run his course. I said

870
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: this earlier in the podcast. It's just time, you know.

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00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say McCarthy and I know he's won a

872
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: super Bowl, but I think most of us would have

873
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Speaker 1: agreed if we're just having a conversation, if you get

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Speaker 1: one coach, you have zero players on your team, you

875
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Speaker 1: have to put your entire team together. You got McCarthy

876
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Speaker 1: or Andy Reid starting for the next five years of

877
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Speaker 1: your franchise. Of people would take Andy Reid, But McCarthy

878
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: has a Super Bowl, right, any reason better coach, you know.

879
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: And again, and this wasn't even trying to be a

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Speaker 1: shot at McCarthy. It just shows you like McCarthy for

881
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and he makes the playoffs every year.

882
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: Is kind of a flawed coach, you know, for a

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Speaker 1: guy that I think most people would consider, you know,

884
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Speaker 1: a top ten NFL coach, he's I don't know. I

885
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: like Mike McCarthy, but I'm with it. It's run his course.

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Speaker 1: Any oh, c dcs or guys at the college level

887
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: that would be a great fit. They got Rodgers in

888
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: his prime. He's locked up contractually for the next several years.

889
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: They got Davante Adams, they got multiple first round picks. Like,

890
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Speaker 1: what if you called Lincoln Riley, would Lincoln Riley be

891
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: interested in working with with Aaron Rodgers? Would Aaron Rodgers

892
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: want that? You know, Aaron Rodgers is gonna have some

893
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: say in this higher Uh, you know, I think multiple

894
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators would immediately get interviews. Jim Bob Cooter with Detroit,

895
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Speaker 1: John D. Filippo with Minnesota. I think Lincoln Riley, You'd

896
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Speaker 1: be crazy did not interview Lincoln Riley. I don't think

897
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Speaker 1: they would do like a retread, you know, a guy

898
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Speaker 1: on a second job. I think they would go young,

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00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: up and coming guy. Uh, Lincoln Riley would be a

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00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: little bit of a stretch, you know, Matt Campbell at

901
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: Iowa State, all right. I think that Jim Bob Cooter

902
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: and John D. Filippo would one hundred percent get get interviews.

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00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: I think the packers be crazy if they. Again it's

904
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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. So like if the Green Bay

905
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Speaker 1: Packers called Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. Let's just say Tom

906
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Speaker 1: Herman were to make the playoffs, Tom Herman at Texas,

907
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: that would be a little bit of a stretch. But

908
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Speaker 1: let's say Lincoln Riley, Uh he said, hey, man, you

909
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: want to be the head coach the Green Bay Packers?

910
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? You you listen. It's like once upon

911
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: a time Brad Stephen said he was never leaving, turning

912
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: down jobs left and right. Then Danny Ainge got on

913
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Speaker 1: the phone and said, Hey, this Danny Ainge, the general

914
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: manager of the Boston Celtics. Can we talk. Hey, this

915
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Speaker 1: is Brian Goodikins. Is Lincoln there, This is Brian Goudikins,

916
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Speaker 1: the general manager of the Green Bay Packers. Hell, I'd

917
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Speaker 1: pick up my phone, you know. I mean, it's just

918
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: it is a very intriguing job, and they would get

919
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: people to pick up the phone, like those offensive coordinators

920
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: would die for that job. I do think there'd be

921
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Speaker 1: some college head coaches that would have to consider turning

922
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Speaker 1: it down and leaving their program to become the head

923
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: coach of the Green Bay Packers, you know. So it's

924
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: it's like once upon a time Jimmy Johnson left Miami

925
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Speaker 1: to leave with Jerry Jones, and the Cowboys were terrible

926
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Speaker 1: at the time. Think about that. The Packers, let's just

927
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Speaker 1: say hypothetically, they missed the playoffs this year like seven

928
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Speaker 1: eight and one, Rogers banged up most of the year

929
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Speaker 1: in the defense is terrible. It would be one of

930
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: the most intriguing job openings in in in years, in forever.

931
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Speaker 1: I mean it would be. It would be pretty wild

932
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: how powerful the draw of that job would be. I mean,

933
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Speaker 1: I think people would leave jobs to try to get

934
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Speaker 1: that job. But okay, John, let's role play. I like

935
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Speaker 1: role play. Say you're Jerry Jones and you fired Scott

936
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Speaker 1: Linahan and Jason Garrett. Who do you go after as replacements? Well,

937
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: it kind of like the green Bay Packers be easier,

938
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Speaker 1: and I think the conversation continues will end on this question.

939
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Speaker 1: I think it's much easier in Green Bay. When Brian

940
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Speaker 1: Gudakins and Mike Murphy get on the phone, they go listen,

941
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Speaker 1: We're an organization of stability. Were an organization that believes

942
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Speaker 1: in our coach. Were an organization that gets behind the

943
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Speaker 1: coach during good and bad times. Look, we've stuck by McCarthy,

944
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Speaker 1: you know, through to the success, through the last couple

945
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Speaker 1: of years that have been a little rough. We let

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00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: him hang on out of loyalty to his coaches. So

947
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Speaker 1: to me, the packard job is better than the cowboy

948
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: job in the sense that you get more autonomy to

949
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: do what you want to do. Uh. And you have

950
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Speaker 1: a really really bright general manager and Gudakins I think

951
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: he's really good. You have a good scouting staff that

952
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: has cultivated countless gms around the NFL the last twenty years.

953
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: Like the Blueprints, they are in green Bay. They just

954
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Speaker 1: what Andy Reid is the coaches, Green Bay is the

955
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Speaker 1: front office members. So to me would be really intriguing

956
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: because I think they'd be interviewing the same people. I

957
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Speaker 1: think Jerry, who went to Arkansas would try to interview

958
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Speaker 1: you know, he wants stole a guy from Oklahoma and

959
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: Barry Switzer. I think he would. He would interview Barry

960
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: Switzer for sure, or not, excuse me, not Bury, not

961
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Speaker 1: Barry Switzer. I think Jerry would interview Lincoln Riley. I

962
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Speaker 1: don't know if necessarily Lincoln Riley would take that job.

963
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Speaker 1: I think it would be really I don't think I

964
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Speaker 1: had Lincoln Riley on this podcast like six months ago. Listen.

965
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Speaker 1: I think he thinks he's at his dream job. He

966
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Speaker 1: loves Oklahoma, and he's gonna keep having these opportunities he's

967
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: only thirty five years old, So as crazy as it sounds,

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00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: he might turn down the Packers and the Cowboys just

969
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: be like, they're gonna be around in four or five years.

970
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep winning here. Would you if you were

971
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley turned down Jerry Jones? Like what if he

972
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Speaker 1: offered you ten million dollars a year? You know what

973
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: if he offered you fifty million? Now Lincoln Riley makes

974
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: five million and doesn't have to answer really to anyone

975
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma besides maybe a few boosters. I think Jerry

976
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: and this is why he's hesitant to hire to fire

977
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and Jason just when. The crazy part about

978
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is every time you really want to write

979
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: him off, he's a little like Mike McCarthy too, but

980
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: a poor man's version. He like, we'll have some crazy wind,

981
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: like you just won forty two seven against the Jaguars.

982
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: Who the hell saw this coming? I would have if

983
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: you would have said, someone went Jacksonville and Dallas play

984
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: someone wins forty to seven of that, God, Jason Garrett

985
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: gets blown out. No, he won, So it turns out

986
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: like we'll watch Jason Garrett go and win the division.

987
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: But I think it'll be hard for Jerry. I think

988
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: he loves Jason Garrett. He likes the continuity of just

989
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: they speak the same language, like the Jim Bob Coooner

990
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: and the John D. Philippo examples. Let's use John D Philippo.

991
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: Like John D. Philippo is gonna become a head coach

992
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: in the very very near future. But would Jerry take

993
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: a chance on a on a coordinator that had never

994
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: been a head coach when he's kind of down the

995
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: home stretch of his life like that? That's why I

996
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: think he would love like uh, I mean, Nick Saban

997
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't take the job, but but a guy like that,

998
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're taking the job. I think

999
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: Jerry's in a tough place because I think he knows,

1000
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: like my money, it's more people like all these guys

1001
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: are getting paid, Like if you're the coach at Iowa State,

1002
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: you make three or four million dollars, Like they're all multimillionaires.

1003
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: Have you ever met coaches? They don't really have lives.

1004
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: They're not living like you and me, like a bunch

1005
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: of free time. And if we if you gave me

1006
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, like I would have time

1007
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: to spend it. Like Lincoln Riley is making more money

1008
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: than you ever dreamed of. So is Matt Campbell, So's

1009
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, like all these guys. The money is not

1010
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: really an issue. Now. You can offer a guy if

1011
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: he's making five eight, But listen, I've never made five

1012
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: million dollars, never made eight million dollars. But the difference

1013
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: is like I'm I'm I'm a millionaire. And if I

1014
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: have a three or four year contract at five a year,

1015
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: like my my kids are set. So just because you're

1016
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: offering me eight, if I really like my job, it's

1017
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: not really that big a difference. Now if you double

1018
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: it or triple it, which Jerry can do. But I

1019
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: I still think people people turned down jobs all the

1020
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: time when they're making a lot of money. Why because

1021
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: when you make a lot of money, you do have

1022
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: some leverage, like you don't need to leave, like you're

1023
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: already set. So I don't know. I if Jerry fired

1024
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett this role play, maybe I'm bad at it.

1025
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I think Lincoln Riley one million

1026
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: percent would get an interview. I think if he were

1027
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: let's say hypothetically turn him down. Dan Mullen had success

1028
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: with DAK Dan Mullen went to Florida. What if Florida

1029
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: goes ten and two? Would he hire Dan Mullen? You

1030
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: know what, it feels that would be a desperate hire.

1031
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: But would he hired Dan mullin a guy that has

1032
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: head coaching experience before he'd hire a first time coordinator

1033
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: like John d. Philippo or Jim Bob Cooter. Kind of

1034
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: feels like you would. Again, this is guessing. Jerry has

1035
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: hired like two coaches in the last fifteen years, So

1036
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't feel confident. First off, here's

1037
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: let's just stop the role playing here. I do not

1038
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: think he's gonna fire Jason Garrett. Appreciate everyone listening. Again.

1039
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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mailbag, you can always line up in my d

1040
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: M s at John Middlecoff and I'll haul at you.

1041
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Speaker 1: I'll see you Friday.