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Speaker 1: visit Georgia soon. There's some old miss smoke there as well.

430
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Speaker 1: So this is wide receiver market's been fairly deep. There

431
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Speaker 1: are some good players, there's some difference making players to

432
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Speaker 1: get here. Eric Rivers is another one. I don't want

433
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Speaker 1: to forget him. That's the wide receiver from FIU, top

434
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Speaker 1: five in receiving yards and touchdowns in like all of

435
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Speaker 1: the sport. He just did it down at FIU where

436
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: none of you hardly paid attention. Miami, Nebraska, Colorado, Penn State,

437
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Speaker 1: they're all involved there. Williams Whenery, this one was tough

438
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Speaker 1: for me to watch. Williams when Ery was a five

439
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Speaker 1: star edge guy just this past cycle twenty twenty four,

440
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Speaker 1: and he committed to Missouri and you remember the footage

441
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Speaker 1: probably if you follow recruiting. Drinkwitz and his whole staff

442
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Speaker 1: celebrated like they've just been given a stay of execution.

443
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Speaker 1: And he's already in the portal and now he's out

444
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: of the portal because he's committed to Nebraska. He went

445
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Speaker 1: in there with the dreaded do not contact tag, So

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Speaker 1: mak of that what you will. They've lost multiple guys.

447
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Nebraska had lost multiple guys called Tony White, the defensive

448
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: coordinator went to FSU, So Williams when aery is a

449
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: very big addition for them. Jaheim Otis left Alabama. There

450
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Speaker 1: were some crystal ball picks in for him to go

451
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Speaker 1: to Ole Miss. That's kind of flipped to Colorado. He

452
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Speaker 1: hasn't committed there yet, but that's kind of flipped Colorado.

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Speaker 1: I think initially the price tag on Jahima was a

454
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Speaker 1: little high. That may have come down in the market,

455
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Speaker 1: And to be honest, I'm not at the forefront of that.

456
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: I just get little bits and pieces here and there,

457
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: and haven't gotten an update that on a couple of weeks.

458
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: But I know initially price tax is probably a little

459
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Speaker 1: high there, Little Steve. That's not the first time that's

460
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Speaker 1: ever happened, and it won't be the last. I'm really

461
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: watching that quarterback situation at Auburn. I wonder, frankly, I

462
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Speaker 1: wonder what a number of these teams are planning on

463
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Speaker 1: doing at quarterback. And just remember, just remember now, we

464
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Speaker 1: got a ton of teams in the playoff. It's not four,

465
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Speaker 1: it's twelve, So we got twelve rosters in the playoff. Generally,

466
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna see guys defect from those teams while

467
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Speaker 1: they're still alive in the playoff right now. So as

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Speaker 1: they get knocked out, it's like shaking a tree and

469
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some fruit that falls off, and that'll

470
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Speaker 1: just readjust and recalibrate the market a little bit. So

471
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Speaker 1: don't start thinking just because your needs aren't immediately available

472
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Speaker 1: in the portal right now, that they won't be because

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Speaker 1: the best rosters in many cases are still playing. Like

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Speaker 1: Georgia is still playing, Texas is still playing. I'm pretty

475
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Speaker 1: sure all of those teams are going to lose players.

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Speaker 1: Which players I don't know. We have gone all over

477
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Speaker 1: the country this year. I want you to know. I

478
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Speaker 1: ran the numbers. We went over twenty four thousand miles

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Speaker 1: so far this year on the whole New Saturday Tour

480
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Speaker 1: and Quick Trip fueled every mile. We really appreciate them.

481
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Speaker 1: They have fueled miles for a lot of you as well.

482
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Speaker 1: We gave away two free tanks of gas today already,

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Speaker 1: I think, and that was the deal. Remember when we

484
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Speaker 1: committed the Quick Trip, we had an entire gas station

485
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Speaker 1: recruiting process. Some are calling it the most prolific gas

486
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Speaker 1: station recruitment in the modern era. Their words, not mine.

487
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Speaker 1: It's the people society said that, and we committed a

488
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Speaker 1: quick trip because quick Trip promised to give our people

489
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Speaker 1: free tanks of gas. And let me tell you what

490
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Speaker 1: Quick Trip did. They gave a bun bunch of our

491
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Speaker 1: people free tanks of gas. And they're still doing it

492
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Speaker 1: and we appreciate it. There was a rumor and there

493
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Speaker 1: still is a rumor that they may just lurk in

494
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Speaker 1: the live chat and start giving away tanks of gas

495
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Speaker 1: in the live chat. I mean, who'stood a funk it?

496
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Speaker 1: What a partner Quick Trip has been. They even sent

497
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Speaker 1: me a little Christmas beanie by the way, Quick trip merch. Yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: next level quick trip merch. So we appreciate them. We've

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Speaker 1: been all over the country all year with them. I

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Speaker 1: strongly suggest you stop by one of your friendly Quick

501
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Speaker 1: trip locations. The cold brew on tap is incredible. I

502
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Speaker 1: don't talk about it enough. You guys got to go in.

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Speaker 1: Next time you're at a quick trip, go in. I

504
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Speaker 1: think most of the locations now have this, just like

505
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Speaker 1: wide varieties of cold brew, which temporary, temporarily gave me

506
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Speaker 1: vision loss a couple of years ago, if you'll remember,

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Speaker 1: still a good product, though they have it on tap.

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Speaker 1: Just unbelievable in twenty twenty four. There is a lot

509
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Speaker 1: wrong with the world, but that is something that's right

510
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Speaker 1: with the world. All right, let's move on. Hey, it's

511
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: twenty six after and we're just now getting to this. Wow.

512
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is the head coach at North Carolina. I

513
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Speaker 1: feel a lot of things about this. I feel excitement because,

514
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, for obvious reasons, one of the most prolific

515
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Speaker 1: head coaches in the history of American sports has come

516
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: to our block, has come to college football. Who maybe

517
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Speaker 1: the Paid State Speaker series features Bill Belichick one day,

518
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: never would have thought that. I feel skepticism about this.

519
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's gonna work. I feel curiosity about it.

520
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I have tons of questions about it. But I am

521
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: very much excited. Don't take my skepticism for meaning I

522
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: hope it doesn't work. Oh, I hope it works. I

523
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: absolutely hope it works. But I will be honest with you,

524
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: I have skepticism, just some behind the scenes on how

525
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Speaker 1: this worked. Now that it's done, this was massive power

526
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: struggle in Chapel Hill. Massive. I think you saw some

527
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: headlines out there. I think some of the national guys

528
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: reported that at various points those that were involved on

529
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: the coaching side in the search didn't really know who

530
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: was running the search. They're right about that, because there

531
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: were multiple searches being run. You had the administration Bubba Cunningham,

532
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: the ad there and the administration running a search, and

533
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: then you had Board of Trustee members and big money folks,

534
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: not a bunch of them, but a few of them

535
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Speaker 1: running searches, and the latter got their way and the

536
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: former did not. And so Bill Belichick is the head

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Speaker 1: coach at North Carolina now. Now, just because there's a

538
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: power struggle doesn't mean it doesn't ultimately work out. It

539
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: does mean that it's a little messy and contentious behind

540
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Speaker 1: the scenes. This one, I'm just gonna say, the drama

541
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Speaker 1: was kept under wraps as much as it could be

542
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Speaker 1: kept under wraps, and the press conference today looked nice.

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Speaker 1: But there were some people on that stage who at

544
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Speaker 1: various points did and didn't have control of the situation.

545
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Speaker 1: And it's just it's college athletics, man, it's college athletics.

546
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: So to me, the Bill Belichick at North Carolina story

547
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: all comes down to one question, one word, really, expectation.

548
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: What is your expectation because I need to know that

549
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: before I can know how to talk about this. Most

550
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: of you, historically, when it comes to North Carolina football,

551
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: expect make a bowl, you know, gun for an eight

552
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: win season, nine win season every now and then. And

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Speaker 1: if that is your expectation level, they could be okay.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: They are paying him ten million dollars a year though,

556
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Speaker 1: so typically when you get ten MILLI year in this sport,

557
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Speaker 1: you are meant to be contending for much more than

558
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Speaker 1: just Bowl eligibility, and much more than a nice solid

559
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Speaker 1: eight or nine win season. You get paid ten MILLI year,

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to be competing for playoff spots. Is it

561
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Speaker 1: reasonable to expect that in North caro? Is it reasonable

562
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Speaker 1: to expect that Bill Belichick can elevate the University of

563
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. There is a necessary commitment to football that

564
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Speaker 1: has not existed at North Carolina that only Bill Belichick

565
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Speaker 1: was going to get here. So this is the follow

566
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Speaker 1: up to a lot of the drama that happened behind

567
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Speaker 1: the scenes in this coaching search. Some are all was

568
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: the guy. John Somerral at Tulane was the guy. He

569
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Speaker 1: was the guy the administration wanted. At various points they

570
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: thought they had him, but there was never the rock

571
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Speaker 1: solid certainty that the commitment to football was going to

572
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Speaker 1: be their long term and there was no certainty as

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Speaker 1: to who was running the search. And once you realize,

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Speaker 1: oh man, the parties that we've been talking to may

575
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Speaker 1: not be running this search, you got to get out

576
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: of there. John Somerral kind of did that. And so

577
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Speaker 1: John Sumral may not have had the gravitas or the

578
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: name equity, brand equity if you will to get guarantees

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Speaker 1: that I think Bill Belichick will get. So if you

580
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: think about it through that lens, maybe Belichick was the

581
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: right hire all along, because if the necessary resources are

582
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: only going to be guaranteed to one guy, then by

583
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: process of elimination, maybe that one guy is the only

584
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: right guy for the job. But I will say Bill

585
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Belichick goes to North Carolina. A lot of folks are excited.

586
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Some folks were skeptical. I happen to feel both ways,

587
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: but I'm hearing a lot of josh college football is

588
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: just like the NFL. Now, college football is not like

589
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. I know, for broads trucks' purposes, A lot

590
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: of you look and say, well, since players get paid now,

591
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: just like in the NFL, then college football is just

592
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: like the NFL. Well, I just wrote down a few

593
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Speaker 1: things here. So talent acquisition the Sunday game, you go

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Speaker 1: pick them. They have to come to you. In this game,

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00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: they have to pick you. That's called recruiting. And even

596
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: in the portal you're just doing a secondary version of recruiting.

597
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: But you have to convince them to come to you.

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Speaker 1: That is not the case in the NFL, aside from

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Speaker 1: the limited free agency period. Speaking of free agency, that's

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00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: an annual thing in the Saturday game. So yeah, they

601
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: got it both places. But when you got it in

602
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, you sign a guy, you got him four years.

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00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: That's not the case here. That's even if a guy

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Speaker 1: were to look at you in the I say out, coach,

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00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm staying for two or three years, he could be

606
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: gone next week. Free agency is broken because college football's

607
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: model is broken because no one's really in control of

608
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: it right now. So, yeah, it's true that talent moves

609
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: around in the Saturday game. In the Sunday game, that's

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Speaker 1: about the extent of the commonality between talent acquisition. Both

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Speaker 1: on the recruiting side and then the free agency side

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Speaker 1: in college football versus the NFL. Hey, you deal with

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Speaker 1: agents in the Sunday game. Oh, you'll deal with people

614
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: who call themselves agents in the Saturday game as well.

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Speaker 1: There's another word you know on Sunday that this sport

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Speaker 1: knows nothing about certification. Tell that request that from a

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00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: guy who comes to you claiming to represent a middle

618
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: linebacker from some Alabama. Ask him, Hey, what's your certification?

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Speaker 1: They'll certifle what, they'll blackfat you certification. I'm an agent.

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Speaker 1: Jesse's an agent. College's an agent. That's the entirety of

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Speaker 1: the process that it takes to be an agent in

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Speaker 1: college football. Right now, you call yourself one, voila, you're

623
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Speaker 1: an agent. You can go screw a kid out of

624
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: thirty percent of his future earnings, and his family may

625
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: not know any better than to sign their names on

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Speaker 1: a piece of paper. I'm an agent. You're dealing with

627
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: these people you're dealing You think you've dealt with agents.

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Speaker 1: You think dealing with the Drew Rosenhouses of the world.

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Speaker 1: That's a trip. Nah. Nah. That guy's certified and he

630
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: works on a calibrated scale that everyone has to abide

631
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Speaker 1: by and if you run a foul of it, if

632
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: you run a foul of league bylaws, then you're out.

633
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: That does not exist in this game. They'll know. Yet again,

634
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: it is not like the Sunday game. And also on

635
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: the outside of things, you go acchore talent. You draft

636
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: it from college and it's played one, two, three, four

637
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: years of high school ball, and it's played five, six, seven,

638
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: maybe eight maybe nine years if you count high school

639
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: in college. And you're dealing in many cases with pretty

640
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: developed guys that in the first year of their career

641
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: are so accomplished that they can play at the NFL level.

642
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: So it's not so much a developmental league on Sunday

643
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: Saturday games developmental. And that's not me sitting here saying, oh,

644
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick doesn't know how to develop a player. Well, sir,

645
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: he does. That is what this sport is about. Though

646
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: you've got to develop, develop, develop, You are dealing with

647
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: very very raw products. And I'll tell you something else

648
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: that I'm just curious about. This is not where I'm

649
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: going to sit here and question Bill Belichick. But I

650
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: am very curious because a lot of you who follow

651
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: the draft and follow the NFL a lot more closely

652
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: than I do. You would probably tell me that when

653
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was given full control, when he was running

654
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: all parts of that operation in New England, his drafts

655
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: were bad, and his evals were bad, and his player

656
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: selections were bad. And you know, I'm not an expert

657
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: on that, but I will say, for the sake of argument,

658
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: if you're right about that. You know how much relatively

659
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: tougher it is to evaluate and project a junior in

660
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: high school then a junior in college. You're dealing with

661
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: a guy who you're having to project another forty or

662
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: fifty or sixty pounds on. In some cases, you're having

663
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: to project a guy who comes from Thibodau, Louisiana, who's

664
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: eaten corn flakes three meals a day his whole life.

665
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: He's never even been in an advanced strength and conditioning

666
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: and weight program. He is so raw. He's a chunk

667
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: of clay. And I know you want to fancy yourself

668
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: as having molded chunks of clay. From the college level,

669
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: when a guy's play three or four years at Michigan,

670
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: it is a whole lot different than a kid who's

671
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: played three or four years of high school football in

672
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: Altoona Pencilvan. And the reason I bring that up is

673
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: that eval is a lot different and that projection piece

674
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: is a lot different than it is drafting guys from

675
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: college to the NFL. So if you guys are right

676
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: about that, I just wonder how that fits here at

677
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: the college level. Also, what's the entire model, the entire

678
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: college football model as a head coach. You go talk

679
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: to any head coach right now, they will tell you

680
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: a vast chunk of their time is spent on anything

681
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: other than football. To an extent, That's always been the case.

682
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: It's never been more the case than it is right now.

683
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: Fundraising is really the name of the game for most

684
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: coaches right now. Maybe that changes with revenue sharing, maybe

685
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't go away. But if that's not you and

686
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: I do not think that's Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick's perceived

687
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: strengths are x'es and O's football acumen. I remember Shane

688
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: Beemer telling me when we were over in Colombia and spring.

689
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean he's basically tying his bow tie to go

690
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: to a fundraising dinner. He said too, the last thing

691
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: I get to touch in a lot of my days

692
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: is football. I don't spend any time on a grease board.

693
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: I don't spend any time watching film, or I don't

694
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: spend as much time doing that as I do in

695
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: trusting my staff to do that while I go and

696
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: I run the entire operation. Is that Bill Belichick like?

697
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: Is that what he's signing up for? Is that the

698
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: way it's gotta be? Or do they understand a different

699
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: way to do it over there that doesn't require that.

700
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm excited to watch it. It's an experiment.

701
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: I think that you'll have people guess that this is

702
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: gonna go horrifically. You'll have people guess that this is

703
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: gonna go wonderfully. Half of them will be right. They'll

704
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: be fooled into thinking that their geniuses, and in reality,

705
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: it's just a crapshoot. Everyone's guessing. So I will tell

706
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: you before we get to Cublic. Hey, Jesse Audible, by

707
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: the way, bold predictions, let's just put that to the side.

708
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: We'll do that Sunday. You know, Jesse, I'm gonna let

709
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: you make this call. Get ready. Do you think that

710
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: we should go ahead and bring Kublic in and do

711
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: the Rich Rod and Dan Mullen stuff just all baked

712
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: in with him. What do you think, Jesse, you do

713
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: think we should do that? Which is translation for Cublick's

714
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: already on hold and we don't want to keep him waiting. Okay, well,

715
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: first thing I want to tell you while we get

716
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: that lined up, tell him to turn it off. Mute.

717
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: We're about to bring him on as soon as I

718
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: crack open this ice cold ZeVA. I would say, potentially

719
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: millions of you entered the contest for the child Life

720
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: Supremacy one hundred dollars gift cards, Zvia. That's over now,

721
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I still encourage you to drink this stuff

722
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: because of the best zero sugar soda on the planet.

723
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: I just took a big swig of it. If you're

724
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: listening on podcasts, But be on the lookout because the

725
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: winners will be notified very soon. So that contest is over,

726
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: so be on the lookout for that. We appreciate them,

727
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: and that stuff is being consumed by the truckload at

728
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: my apartment. Hold right now, all right, let's bring him

729
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: in cole Kublic. You see him all over the place.

730
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: The Cube Show is actually where you should go subscribe though,

731
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: like I mean, ESPN is just always there. The SEC

732
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: Networks is always there. It was there before you came along,

733
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: It'll be there after you're gone, which is hopefully a

734
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: long way down the road. But Cube show, we're on

735
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: the drive to fifteen thousand subs and my sources tell

736
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: me we haven't gotten there yet, but we will get there,

737
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: possibly as a Christmas present. So that's what we're working on.

738
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: How are you doing tonight?

739
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 2: I am great.

740
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: How about yourself, I'm all right, I'm all right.

741
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: Did you know that you have massive fans in the

742
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: Georgia Marching Band.

743
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Georgia Band and the LSU band. There they

744
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: go like.

745
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: The marching red Coats or something. I believe it was

746
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: the ah not clarinet longer than a clarinet, not a saxophone.

747
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: French stops with me, Frenchhorn's Love the Show.

748
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: Ask for a photograph. I said, only if I can

749
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: hold the instrument. That that photograph is out there flootground somewhere,

750
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: Me holding the instrument, him standing next to me. He says,

751
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: love you on PAYT Show.

752
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: Mmm.

753
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: I was like, boy, there's a lot of other things,

754
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: but yeah, I guess that's what I'm known for now.

755
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: In the Marching band world.

756
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: Well, you got to be known for something. Yeah, the

757
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: Redcoat Marching Band, the Golden Band from Tiger Land, the

758
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Million Dollar Band. There's some good band names out there.

759
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: Ohio State. We're huge at Ohio State too. Hey, let

760
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Rich Rodriguez is back at

761
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: West Virginia. Now you are old enough to remember the

762
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: entire way that went down in seven and is the

763
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: Alabama coach for five nanoseconds and then he backs out

764
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: of that, and then he ends up at Michigan and

765
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: you're wondering, like, oh, is this gonna work? Spoiler alert,

766
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. And then he's all over the place

767
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: over the next decade and a half, and he's back.

768
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty four. He's still got a ton of

769
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: juice left. He's still a winner. I'm very happy that

770
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: this is happening. It could fundamentally alter the landscape of

771
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: the Big twelve because with Rich Rodriguez coming in, you also,

772
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be real. Now you got your King

773
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: Kendricks of the world, you got your Pat McAfee's of

774
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: the world, who could, in the snap of a finger

775
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: or make the West Virginia nil package the most lucrative

776
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. So we're not just talking about

777
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: getting a legendary name back here. We're talking about potentially

778
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: putting a different kind of gas in the tank at

779
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: West Virginia. I obviously think this is a win, because

780
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: it was already a win there the first go around,

781
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: and he really hasn't stopped winning, most recently at Jacksonville State.

782
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna work. Do you think it's gonna work?

783
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: If so, why, Yes, He's just a great football coach

784
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: and he is best I think when he is attempting

785
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: to do more with less, and that means not just

786
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: elite talent or expected to go grab elite talent.

787
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: I think he's got a good core of assistance around

788
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: him that understand how he's gonna run a football team.

789
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: He's been able to sort of alter I think his

790
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: approach just enough to fit in with today's kids. But

791
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: he's gonna win, and how much I don't know the

792
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: extent of it, but I do think that. I mean,

793
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: you just said something interesting alter the landscape of the

794
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: Big twelve? How much more can we alter that landscape?

795
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, every program has something going for

796
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: it that feels like could make it not only unique,

797
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: but could make it great. At times, I'm excited about it.

798
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: I know rich Rod covered a little bit here in

799
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: Jacksonville State in the state of Alabama, and I've known

800
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: him for a long time. I know some people that

801
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: he's coached with for a while. I was talking to

802
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: McAfee at the SEC Championship game. He was saying he

803
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: wanted him back, said that's what it needed to be.

804
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: So I think that fan base will get behind it.

805
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: Like you said, the NIL could take a massive boost

806
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: and a heartbeat. And I think he already knows the landscape.

807
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: He knows, he admitised Tracy. He knows how to win.

808
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: I think it'll be I think it's a great hire,

809
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: and I think I think rich Rod's going to do

810
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: really well.

811
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Speaker 1: Think about the athlete profile and recruiting on the East

812
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: Coast all the way down to Florida. Okay, there's a

813
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: caliber of kid that the biggest programs in the SEC

814
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: are going to fight over. There is an East Coast

815
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: Virginia's up in Jersey, there's a caliber of athlete there.

816
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: You're Michigan's and Ohio States and Penn States to a

817
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: certain extent they've always gotten priority over. But that leaves

818
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of like P four level athletes all

819
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: up and down the Eastern seaboard in Florida per year

820
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: that are like prime potential gets for someone, and it

821
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: has been UCF and then to a certain extent, Cincinnati.

822
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Big twelve teams. So I'm just thinking

823
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: like this, I'm thinking about raw talent acquisition. If West

824
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: Virginia is like a major NIL player within the context

825
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: and framework of the Big twelve, who you competing against.

826
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: You're competing against Cincinnati, which is you know, Inland a

827
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: little bit, and then you're competing against UCF, which by

828
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: all accounts has a long way to go to get

829
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: their internal NIL infrastructure up to speed. Now they've got

830
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: the advantage of being parked in Florida. But I think

831
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: West Virginia could like really make some hey in talent

832
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: acquisition just by having the right people sort of look

833
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: in their pocket and say, oh, I didn't know that

834
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: was there. Here you go.

835
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: I think where there's a lot of new advantages for

836
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: different coaches. We could talk about some with Dan Mullen,

837
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: we could talk about some with Belichick. I think some

838
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: of the newer advantages for a guy like rich Rod.

839
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: Like I remember when Terry Ballen was at Akron and

840
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: he was getting these kids from Fort Lauderdale, and I

841
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: always knew that he had those relationships down there. I mean,

842
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: you talk with the dinner kids that he brought to

843
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: Auburn and you know Frank Sanders and James Bostic and

844
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: those guys, and just kept bringing like Martevius Houston. But

845
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: the relationships that he had stayed wherever he went. And

846
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: I think that's where someone like rich Rod right now

847
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: can benefit more than people will give him credit for.

848
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: Josh is not going to that high school to get

849
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: that young man immediately, because as you stated, if Penn State,

850
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State, maybe even Virginia Tech or Tennessee want that player,

851
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: probably going to get them for nil reasons and for

852
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: historical reasons, facilities, whatever else. But where that benefits you

853
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: now is how many players stay at the same place

854
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: four years, not a ton. And he's got the relationships

855
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: with other college coaches, He's already got those high school relationships.

856
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: He'll have recruited a lot of those guys, So I

857
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: actually think he might be able to have more success

858
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: through the portal with kids wanting to get back close

859
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: to home, or understanding it didn't work somewhere the first time,

860
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 2: or maybe needed to get into a better fit scheme

861
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: wise than they thought they needed to coming out of

862
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: high school because they see they don't work in this

863
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: pro style system, or they don't work in the air

864
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: raid and they need to get something that's a little

865
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: bit more better fit for what they're suited to do.

866
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: That's where I think rich Rock can end up having

867
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: some major wins.

868
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: We also have Dan Mullen to talk about here for

869
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: just a second. So Dan Mullen headed to UNLV, I

870
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: would say mildly surprises me. I always thought Dan Mullen

871
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: would get back into coaching, but I was of the

872
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: opinion that Mullen was in a really good sweet spot

873
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: right now. He had exited the sport, and he exited

874
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: a version of the sport that probably still wasn't quite

875
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: tailor made for him, and he was a guy who

876
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: is really good on camera. So you could just go

877
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: do TV indefinitely and you've got the buyout life you

878
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: can already live, but you're also keeping your name at

879
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: the forefront of the conversation. I think we you and

880
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before. No sharp coach goes into

881
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: television and has their stock decrease. It's the old Gruden

882
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: philosophy from back in the day. Gruden goes and does

883
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: Monday night football for years and stock just continues to climb, climb, climb,

884
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: And I thought that was happening with Dan Mullen. And

885
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: what I thought Mullin was gonna do is waited out

886
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: a couple of more cycles until whatever revenue sharing is

887
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: becomes what it's going to be, and whatever the whole

888
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: roster construction nil portal situation is going to be ends

889
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: up becoming what it's going to be. And then I

890
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: thought he was going to insert himself again, probably at

891
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: a job a little level up from UNLV. But I

892
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: look at him go to UNLV, and I think that's

893
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: a really good laboratory for him. I don't expect him

894
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: to be there in four years, but it's a really

895
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: good laboratory. It's a really good place for someone who's

896
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: sketched out on the back of a pizza box what

897
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: his version of a program in the new landscape of

898
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: college football is going to be. Still knows offensive football

899
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: very well, like you don't forget. That's but talent acquisition,

900
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: how you're gonna staff, the way you're gonna do the portal,

901
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: how you're gonna allocate resources, all that stuff. Go practice

902
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: it on that stage. It's one of the best NIL

903
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: programs within the Mountain West. I think Barry just proved that,

904
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: and now he's off to produce. So I kind of

905
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: get it. I thought we'd probably wait one or two

906
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: more cycles. I had heard his name involved in searches,

907
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: but I thought, if you don't go get a North

908
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: Carolina or something like that, probably waited out. But here

909
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: he is, thoughts.

910
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: So a couple of things. Number One, he's a great coach.

911
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: For those that don't think so, don't believe it, don't know.

912
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: He's a great play caller, great offensive designer. I think

913
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: guys like working for him because he's not the ultimate grinder.

914
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: By the way, what you said about television, it feels accurate,

915
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: whether it was Terry Bowden going back, whether it was

916
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: Mac Brown going back. You just mentioned Dan Mullen. So

917
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: are you saying Saban in twenty six or twenty seven's

918
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 2: coaching again?

919
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm saying Saban will finally be viewed as

920
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: pretty high level head coach, and so yeah, I think

921
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: he'll probably have his pick of jobs right now. Got

922
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: options limited, options limited.

923
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: Making sure that people know where you're going.

924
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't I heard per dude didn't even offer saban.

925
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: If that gives you any idea of what the landscape's

926
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: like right now.

927
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: Gives you an idea where they are. So I think

928
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: what you see with Dan Mullen right now and then

929
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: once again new things that benefit old coaches. You have

930
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: seen the golf in Las Vegas, in the metro Las

931
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: Vegas area, correct, Yeah, pretty good? Yeah, all right, so

932
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: Dan's down for that. He's gonna like that once again

933
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: the second time around. Philosophy of it didn't work in

934
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: one of these college towns. Would you like to come

935
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 2: hang out in Las Vegas? The last two three years

936
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: of playing college football. By the way, my team score points,

937
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: we played in the same stadium that the Raiders do,

938
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: and look at our facilities, they're brand new. We also

939
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: have pretty good nil because we have billionaire for Tita

940
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: Brothers behind us. Good luck finding that somewhere else at

941
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: the same level. Oh and we were one went away

942
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: from the playoff. So if you're thinking that that's like

943
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: a pipe dream. We're not going to be able to

944
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: make it. It's been proven that it can happen right

945
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: here right now. That probably changes in the near future,

946
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: but for now we can believe that and talk about that.

947
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: Here's the other part of it. The biggest gripe against

948
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: Dan Mullen was that he was not that Kirby Smart,

949
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: Nick Saban Ed or Jeran just ferocious recruiter, always recruiting,

950
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: like literally convincing their wives that they need to come

951
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: to the game Saturday because they just felt like they

952
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: needed to be recruiting, you know, eating spaghetti and meatballs

953
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: at dinner. He wasn't that guy. He's never going to

954
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: be that guy now, Josh, Yeah, it's cool to be

955
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: that guy, and it probably helps to be that guy.

956
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: You don't have to be that guy to get players anymore.

957
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: A lot of players are looking for a check, and

958
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: a lot of players aren't going to talk to you

959
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: until you can deliver a certain check of a certain amount. Well,

960
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: if he's got that behind him, a lot of that

961
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: does a lot of the recruiting for itself, and then

962
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: he can sort of negotiate the rest of it on

963
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: his own. He's got a great network. He'll put a

964
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: great staff together. That's not going to be a problem

965
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: at all. So I once again, I think some of

966
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: the new things around college football could end up benefiting

967
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: Dan Mullen. And that could be guys wanting to go

968
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: to Las Vegas the first time the second time, just

969
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: wanted to play in a fun offense, be living in

970
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, having more nil than different teams at that level.

971
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: A lot of those things are going to point to

972
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: him being able to have some success. I love to

973
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: hire for UNLV. I love it for him because he's

974
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: in a place where it's gonna be the total opposite

975
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: of start Ville. In Gainsville, there's gonna be about one

976
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: point two percent of the people walking around town are

977
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: going to know who he is, and he's not gonna

978
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: care because he's just there to coach ball and call plays.

979
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: And if he bumps into people that know him, great,

980
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: they'll talk football. If not, you know, he'll just keep

981
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: jogging or playing golf that day, whatever he's doing. But

982
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to be the guy that stops and

983
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: speaks to every single person at Public's about what their

984
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: grandkids are doing and what plays they want him to

985
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: call on Saturday. So a lot of this makes a

986
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: lot of sense. I think he'll win. Barry proved that

987
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: you can do it, and I think Dan Mullen will win.

988
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: Also, how many minutes do you think Mullin could walk

989
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: down the sidewalk in Vegas before he gets recognized what

990
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: time of day, Let's go, let's go, It'll be more

991
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: his crowd around three pm. Let's go one am, prime

992
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: time in Las Vegas. How long can he walk down

993
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: the sidewalk there on the strip before he gets before

994
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: someone says, ay.

995
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: Dan, good news. One am? You said, ampm Right, I

996
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: did one am in Vegas. You're literally, I mean you're

997
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: not even in the on deck circle yet at one am.

998
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: So like you're literally sitting in the dugout wondering where

999
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 2: you are in the lineup. So you're not even starting.

1000
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: So I think people would have their wits about themselves.

1001
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: I think the vision would still be accurate. So, and

1002
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 2: you got a lot of people that are probably out

1003
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: looking for places to go. Weigher own sports. So I'm

1004
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: going to say a good forty five minutes to an

1005
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: hour and a half somewhere in that, right, I really

1006
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: think somebody's like, hey, is that Dan Man also? But

1007
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: the thing that works against you there not a lot

1008
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: of people care about running into college football coaches hanging

1009
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: out in Las Vegas. That's just not really what's on

1010
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: their minds. So could easily see that doubling or tripling.

1011
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: It's so tough because I grew up in in a

1012
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: little town in the South. So to me, the movie

1013
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: stars and the rock stars were not the big celebrities

1014
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: in society. College football coaches were, Like, those were the

1015
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: apex celebrities to me growing up were college football coaches.

1016
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: And so it brings me great pain to understand that

1017
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: once we get across the Chattahoochie River for the first time,

1018
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: like that, that was as far west as I'd ever gone.

1019
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: So once you crossed the Chattahoosseie River, you realize there

1020
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: are places in this world where your most popular coaches

1021
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: could walk up and down the street in a major

1022
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: city and no one even cares. Now, they may love

1023
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: that because it's a respite to change. I don't like it.

1024
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm almost like, what's wrong with you people?

1025
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, but and you're right about smaller towns.

1026
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's you know, like in Alabama,

1027
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 2: it was probably all an Alabama head coach weather man

1028
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: like Jerry Tracy, James Span and then whoever had the

1029
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: most obnoxious car commercials that played seventy seven times a day. Yeah,

1030
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: you know, Long Lewis Ford, whatever it were, like those

1031
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars, did you beat your best deal? Regardless, Like, oh,

1032
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: I know that guy, I see him on a commercial

1033
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: seventeen times every hour. I mean, so that was probably it.

1034
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: But Las Vegas college football coaches are not anywhere near

1035
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: towards the top of the totem pole, and I think

1036
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: he's fine with that now. I don't think he needs

1037
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: that in his life anymore. He was great at television,

1038
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: could have kept doing it a long time. I think

1039
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: he enjoyed it. As a matter of fact, I know

1040
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: he did. I talked to him after our seminar. We

1041
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: were on the same flight, hung out in the airport

1042
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: together for a little while, so he could have He

1043
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: was happy, and he could have kept doing it. I

1044
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: think he viewsed this as a really good opportunity to

1045
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: get in with a group that has a lot behind him,

1046
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: that wants to win, that's committed to winning, and then

1047
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: all the other peripheral things around your university and your

1048
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: program that can obviously benefit you getting talent to come

1049
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: play for you.

1050
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: All right, sit there for just a second we were

1051
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: talking about Las Vegas. It reminded me I owe FanDuel

1052
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: something exclusive odds provider of the show. Obviously, they don't

1053
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: quite do the prop market like how long will Kublick

1054
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: remain on the show tonight? They don't do that kind

1055
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: of stuff. But what they will do is they could

1056
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: give you odds on Oregon to win the National Championship.

1057
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: They can give you odds on Georgia Texas to win

1058
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: the National Championship. Now, the other night, I swerved you

1059
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: and I gave you a new National Championship matchup prediction,

1060
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: and I went Georgia versus Texas, which I naturally got

1061
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: called out for sec bias, et cetera, et cetera. Those

1062
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: are the number two and number three teams in the

1063
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: odds market to win it all right now, So I

1064
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: would humbly suggest to you there is an alternative viewpoint

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Speaker 1: football playoffs here. I assume the morning after the selection,

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Speaker 1: you and McElroy go on radio down there in Birmingham,

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Speaker 1: and you have to deal with an inundation of people

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Speaker 1: that are airing their grievances about Alabama not getting in,

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Speaker 1: and then there may have been some other people in

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Speaker 1: the state happy Alabama's not in. I said on this

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Speaker 1: show that based on the commit protocol, I probably think

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00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: that SMU should have been in. So I didn't think

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00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: Alabama necessarily got screwed. I have a hard time watching

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00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: you lose by three scores to Oklahoma and to me,

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00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: one of the more egregious losses of the year period,

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00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: and then have a lot of complaint. However, I've heard

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00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: you talk about this. I've certainly talked about it a lot.

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Speaker 1: I've heard McElroy talk about this. I've heard many people

1100
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: have complaints about the format and about you know, conference

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: champs being the only ones that can get auto bids

1102
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: and stuff like that and auto bis. So just I'm

1103
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: gonna let you take anywhere you want to with this.

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00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: I'll give you my thoughts on the back end, but

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00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: the current state of the structure of the playoff versus

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00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: how you would like it to look, is what.

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00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: I mean. I think I would like to see the

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00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: twelve best teams in because to me, that's what an

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00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: actual tournament, to I guess crown and national champion would be.

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00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: I've never been one of just include like we have

1111
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: to include this conference, this school, that school just for

1112
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: the sake of doing it. I understand the greater good

1113
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: of college football, and I want to support that and

1114
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: I want to help that. But I think we've seen

1115
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: now with the way that it's played out, and certain

1116
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: seeds are above teams that are obviously ranked ahead of them.

1117
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense to me, and that doesn't seem right.

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00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: The unfortunate part about this is we're going to get

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00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: to more auto bids and we're going to have more

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Speaker 2: of this frustration because we're going to have more teams

1121
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: that are probably ranked below the teams that they're seated above.

1122
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know if there's a real right answer

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00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: to other than just saying, let's just rank them one

1124
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: through twelve and you're in first and foremost. The conferences

1125
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: aren't gonna let that happen, so it's not really worth

1126
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: talking about you and I would love to see that

1127
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: we're not getting to that where it's not going to

1128
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: go to that. It just isn't. But if it were

1129
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: to me, if we're up to me, I would want

1130
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: to see it play out that way. I do understand

1131
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: the people whose mindset is, well, you treat conferences like

1132
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: divisions and then that's why they get auto bids or

1133
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: auto seeds and they get a buy or they don't

1134
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: get a buy. The problem is if you make the

1135
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: NFL comparison, technically NFL franchises are built even and the

1136
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: ones at the bottom are giving advantages to catch the

1137
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: ones at the top. College football has not, does not,

1138
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: will not ever work that way. So to treat the

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00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: mountain Less like the Big ten, to treat the Big

1140
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: twelve like the SEC is somewhat nonsensical. Play it out,

1141
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: and whether you want to, the craziest thing to me, Josh,

1142
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: we were sitting in our meetings for Read and Reacting

1143
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: Charlotte on Monday afternoon, and there's two guys that are

1144
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: part of our show that are going on and on

1145
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: about how we need to bring the computers back, and

1146
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: I mean it almost infuriated me because the only thing

1147
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: I could think of was, do you not remember how

1148
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: mad Earth was letting computers our football teams. I mean,

1149
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: like we literally thought John Connor was being chased down

1150
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: by robots cyborgs to take over college football, and now

1151
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: we want that back. And so I just I want

1152
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: to see the twelve best teams and I want to

1153
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: see them all have a chance to win it. And

1154
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: then the cool part about it is we're always going

1155
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: to argue about eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, because some

1156
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: of us are going to think fifteen should have gotten in,

1157
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: Others are going to think eleven should be out, others

1158
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: are gonna think twelve should be at ten. That has

1159
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: been the beauty of the sport for a long time.

1160
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: But we've gotten way out of whack with deserve in

1161
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: this sport and earn in this sport. And that's where

1162
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: I think people's vision is clouded. Is they think certain

1163
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: teams have earned something when really and truly they've just

1164
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: perceptionally done something that they think is better than another team,

1165
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: or that they deserve something that maybe they truly have

1166
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: not gone out and earned. And there's always there's not

1167
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: always a perfect answer for that as to how to

1168
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: get those teams in. But if it were me, I

1169
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: would because, like Peter Burns was trying to convince me

1170
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: that we need to reseed these teams in studio Sunday

1171
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: when we were doing halftime of basketball. I'm not a

1172
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: big fan of reseeding. I never have been. Why not

1173
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: just choose the top twelve and then go from there

1174
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: and see them one through twelve and have them play

1175
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: their way through buys, no buys, whatever it is. So

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: that would be my wish. It will never be granted.

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: We are going to expand this. We are gonna have

1178
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: more automatic bids. We're actually you know what, We're probably

1179
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: gonna have more automatic seeds, not even bids, Sure have

1180
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: automatic seeds where it's not good enough to force your

1181
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: team in. We got to force our team into the

1182
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: top eight or top six, whatever that is. So that's

1183
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: coming to do.

1184
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: You see your screen right now. This is if we

1185
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: were to go strict twelve best teams. There's no autobid whatsoever.

1186
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: This is actually what the playoff would have looked like.

1187
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: We would have had Arizona State at Notre Dame, Boise

1188
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: at Indiana, Bama at Ohio State, SMU at Tennessee. Your

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01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: buys are pens Oregon Texas Georgia. That right there is

1190
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: a playoff that includes many of the teams that were

1191
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: already in I think one of the notable exceptions is

1192
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: Clemson goes and wins the ACC but because they had

1193
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 1: already lost a quarter of their games and frankly weren't

1194
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: an overly special team this year, they just don't get

1195
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: a stay of execution. Here's an automatic card to get

1196
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: you in the door, just because they won their conference.

1197
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: And notice, even if we were to go with the

1198
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: proposal that you just suggested, and by the way, I'm

1199
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: on board with SMU is still in this thing. They

1200
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: lost the conference title of game, they're still in this thing. Huh.

1201
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: Interesting And by the way, an interesting matchup for Tennessee

1202
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: there take the over in that game. Who Bama? Ohio State?

1203
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: Very interesting matchup where you could I think one of

1204
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: the biggest impact players in that game would be a

1205
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 2: former Alabama player. Yeah, Boise, Indiana I think would be

1206
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: an absolute rock fight. Arizona State could give Notre Dame

1207
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: fits because I don't think their perimeter speed defensively could

1208
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: be able to keep up with that. That's a fun

1209
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: playoff right there. And Oregon is where they deserve to

1210
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: be Georgia's where they deserve to be Texas. I think

1211
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: people would probably have some issue with and maybe want

1212
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: to argue about that, whether it be Notre Dame or Indiana, whatever,

1213
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: And that would be fine, But notice that any less

1214
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: exciting than what we have.

1215
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: No. I'll tell you, I'm watching this from Eugene, Oregon,

1216
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: and I'm going hold up a second because I'm thinking

1217
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: about my current draw and who I'd have to go

1218
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: through to win it all. And then here the cluster

1219
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: of teams is, I'd play the winner of Indiana and Boise,

1220
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: and then I'll face either Arizona State, Notre Dame, or

1221
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: a Penn State team I already beat fairly convincingly in

1222
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: the big team championship game, like I outroster all of

1223
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: these teams fairly significantly as opposed to sitting there waiting

1224
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: for the winner of Tennessee Ohio State. And also, sir,

1225
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: before we move on here, have you considered if I'm right,

1226
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: Let's just say we get my matchup in the national

1227
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: title game, we get Texas Georgia. What if Texas beats them?

1228
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: How is that received nationally? We see a third match

1229
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: up a tournament yeah, we see a third matchup and

1230
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: they they've played once in that They've played once in

1231
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: that building already.

1232
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: This year doesn't matter. This is the one that matters.

1233
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: This is the national championship game. So that's why you

1234
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: would get that giant gold muffler.

1235
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: I've got a quote in my hand, by the.

1236
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: Way, and I know Landing answered it the right way.

1237
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: And that's why he's incredible because he always has the

1238
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: right answers for things and saying that it's an opportunity

1239
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: and not not, you know, a difficult task or whatever.

1240
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: He knows how to play that game, and it was.

1241
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: It was a perfect answer. But when you look at

1242
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: their draw, you have to sit there and think to yourself,

1243
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: that's the number one overall seeds draw.

1244
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, it's only fair.

1245
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: I mean I look at it for either Tennessee well

1246
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: I think Tennessee ugh or O High State, either one.

1247
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: You look at that and just say, that's the.

1248
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Speaker 1: Path that is having to beat four. If you're them,

1249
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: you've got to beat one of the other. Then you

1250
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: got to go probably take down Oregon. Then you probably

1251
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: got to take down Texas, and then you probably got

1252
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: to take down whoever a Georgia or a Notre Dame.

1253
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 1: That's brutality. That's utter brutality. So speaking of Ohio State,

1254
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: I gotta quote maham So ross Bjork, who's the ad

1255
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: there at Ohio State. Now. He goes on ninety seven

1256
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: and won the fan in Columbus today and they were

1257
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: asking him about Ryan Days. Ryan Day gonna be the

1258
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: coach here and moving forward. He said, yeah, he's gonna

1259
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: be the coach here and moving forward. But he gave

1260
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: this quote. He said, we live up to this stuff,

1261
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: we sign up for it, but you get fixated on

1262
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: the end result and not having the process fully baked.

1263
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: Every time, you're gonna lose because you only get fixated

1264
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: on one thing. He said, this is really really interesting.

1265
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: He said, this whole championship or bust sort of mentality.

1266
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: You want that as a goal, but it has to

1267
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: be about the process. To me, I think we've got

1268
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: to maybe change some conversations a little bit. I think

1269
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: we need to approach things a little bit differently. Now.

1270
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, when that Michigan game happened the way

1271
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: it did, I come on air the next night and

1272
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: I say, the intensity is not in question with this

1273
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: team the focus is not in question. The prioritization of

1274
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: beating Michigan, to me is not in question. But whatever

1275
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: it is, however it is they approach that game is

1276
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: wrong because however they approach that game is not bringing

1277
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: out the best in them and conversely, their rivals up

1278
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,479
Speaker 1: north there the way they approach that game has brought

1279
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: out the best in themselves. Now, that's not in the weeds.

1280
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: That's not going into particulars because I don't know the particulars,

1281
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: but I listened to ross Byorke there that is about

1282
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: as well an assessed approach I think as you can

1283
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: get to looking at your current head coach, Ryan Day,

1284
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: your current program Ohio State, you don't take the guy

1285
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: and say you're trash, let me toss you out of here.

1286
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: I have always viewed that is course correction, degrees of

1287
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: course correction instead of hit the dump button, start from scratch. Also,

1288
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know if anyone's realized that

1289
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: they're in the play off, like they still have a

1290
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 1: chance to win it all. They've got like the third

1291
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: or fourth or whatever best odds to win it all.

1292
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: Thoughts of where Ohio State and Ryan Day is right now, I.

1293
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: Agree in theory with a lot of what ross Byork

1294
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: is saying. The problem is, they're not a box of

1295
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: Legos that you just pulled off the shelf at the store.

1296
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: They are a fully assembled whatever the Lego thing that

1297
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: you bought is, whether you bought the Millennium Falcon, or

1298
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: whether you bought Hansel and Gretel's house, or whether you

1299
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: bought a car, whatever that is, it's already put together.

1300
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State has been put together. It's been assembled, and

1301
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: it's been remodeled, and it's been cleaned and shined and

1302
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: refashioned and retooled and everything for a long period of time,

1303
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: so it never is disassembled and unable to win a

1304
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: national championship. So while we all agree with the process

1305
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: quote there, the process at Ohio State has never really

1306
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: gone away. There have been minor dips in the last

1307
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: twenty forty years, but it's never been one where Okay,

1308
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: we need to go to Walmart and buy a whole

1309
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: new set of Legos because we have been completely disassembled.

1310
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: That's just not a real thing. Also, the other part

1311
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: of the national championship discussion might be real, but the

1312
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: beating Michigan part is the one that I would imagine

1313
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: a lot of Ohio States fans have the most problem

1314
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: with not the lack of national championships, those of which

1315
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: technically I would say have been played for. You have

1316
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: been in the tournaments to go compete for those, Therefore,

1317
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 2: you've been included in that. So I imagine we've seen

1318
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: Alabama coaches get fired because they couldn't beat Auburn, But

1319
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: we're competing for championships. It's more of your rival and

1320
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: what they've done to you, specifically as massive underdogs that

1321
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: I think is probably causing a lot of Ohio State

1322
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: fans to pull their hair out than it is if

1323
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: we don't win a national championship, that guy's got to

1324
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: go get him out of here now, because I think

1325
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State fans are fairly sensical and fairly educated when

1326
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: it comes to the game of foot and understand that

1327
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: he's done a lot of good things. He's won a

1328
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: ton of games, he's got a ton of good players there,

1329
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: he knows how to run a program. Things haven't gone

1330
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: exactly the way that they wanted to. But not winning

1331
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: national titles, I don't believe is the sole reason that

1332
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people are looking around saying is this right?

1333
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: Do we need to keep this going? I, for one,

1334
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: think ran Day is great. I also believe that Ryan

1335
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: Day will be there as long as he wants to

1336
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: be there. And I think there's a chance that that

1337
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: might not last a whole lot longer, because he might

1338
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: look back at it and say, you know what, some

1339
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 2: of this talk is just ridiculous. I'm gonna go do

1340
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: something else because I got enough money. It doesn't really matter.

1341
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: I see the point there. I also think there is

1342
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: a hole that has burned in you as a competitor. Now,

1343
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: if you get fired, it's not your choice. But walking

1344
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: away I'm not saying he's walking away now, but if

1345
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: he were to walk away without ever overcoming that Michigan problem,

1346
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: I think that stays with you for the rest of

1347
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: your life, the same way these players who are in

1348
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: the seat in your class are about to leave. Like

1349
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: if you've been around Ohio State Michigan, or you've been

1350
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: involved with the Iron Bowl, like you were on one

1351
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: side of the Iron Bowl. If you go oh and

1352
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: four against Alabama in your career at Auburn, if you

1353
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: go oh and four against Michigan in your career at

1354
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: Ohio State, you can go on to have a wife,

1355
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: five kids, perfect house, and everything looks great. And yet

1356
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: if you're a supreme competitor, which you probably are if

1357
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: you played at those institutions, there's like a void in

1358
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: you that may never get filled because that's how important

1359
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: that stuff is. It's beautiful, but it's beautiful because it's

1360
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: so intense and there's such urgency, And on the flip side,

1361
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: it can be really, really tough on you for a

1362
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: long time if you don't get it done. We're not

1363
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: speculating here, We're just kind of talking to hear ourselves talk.

1364
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: I dude, I don't know, like I think that guy

1365
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: is forced out of there before he voluntarily leaves having

1366
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 1: not gotten over that hurdle.

1367
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: Would you have said the same about Lincoln Riley.

1368
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't know Lincoln Riley. I know Ryan

1369
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: Day a little bit. I don't think Lincoln Riley has

1370
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 1: the same college football worldview as Ryan Day. I say

1371
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: that vaguely intentionally. If I'm on the phone with you

1372
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: privately right now, I think you know the road I'd

1373
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: go down. But no, I would not say the same

1374
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: thing about Lincoln.

1375
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: I just think some other guys have made that choice.

1376
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: And I think we're gonna see more doing it, whether

1377
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: it's what his offensive coordinator did, whether it's what Gus

1378
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: Malsan just did. And it doesn't have to be to

1379
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: be go be a coordinator, maybe it's to be a

1380
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: receivers coach in the NFL. I think we're gonna see

1381
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: more guys making decisions that ten years ago we would

1382
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 2: have said something's wrong, like there's more to that where

1383
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: the conspiracy theories are gonna fly now. I think when

1384
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: we see some of these moves, we just think, don't

1385
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 2: blame him. I get it. Yeah, probably doesn't have to

1386
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: recruit as much, might not have to recruit at all,

1387
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: just gets to go call plays. Can be an old

1388
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: ball coach again. And by the way, I do deal

1389
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: with it every day. I never beat Missisippi State when

1390
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: I was at Auburn, and two or three nights a

1391
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: week at the dinner table, my wife will tell me,

1392
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: you did a great job on your game this week,

1393
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: and I say, by God, honey, I never beat Mississippi State.

1394
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how good the game I called is.

1395
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 2: I got to live with a fact that Joe Ye

1396
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: done in that defense kicked our ass four straight years.

1397
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: So no matter how great my kids are, no matter

1398
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: how great my game was, no matter how great the

1399
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 2: alternate cast is with Marty and McGee and Harry, it

1400
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I didn't beat State baby.

1401
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: So hey, hey, by the way, you brought this up.

1402
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: Now you know I'm not in the business of giving

1403
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: you compliments. You brought this up. I do about you

1404
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: put this. You brought this out of me. I know

1405
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: you reenacted those deals. Well, first off, do you want

1406
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: to do you want to do the grease board story,

1407
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: the story? Just do the trick at grease board Mississippi

1408
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: State story? Why not just go do the do the

1409
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: tricket Mississippi State grease board story. You only tell it

1410
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: once every other week on the show, So go ahead

1411
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: and tell it because we may have some new viewers around.

1412
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: My old offensive line coach in college used to certain games,

1413
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: not all games like LSU or Florida or Tennessee or Alabama,

1414
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: this wouldn't happen, but certain games he would walk up

1415
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: to the old grease board and he would say, here's

1416
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: what I think about this game, and he would write

1417
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: Auburn on one side, He'd right Mississippi State on the

1418
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: other side. He's like, yeah, I was Auburn, the Mississippi State.

1419
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: That's all we need. Should kick their ass.

1420
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: Game plan, game plan.

1421
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why it never worked.

1422
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you just brought up the mega cast. So

1423
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: you guys did that for the SEC Championship or the

1424
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: alternate cast whatever they called it, and that thing's pretty good, man, Like,

1425
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 1: I have fun going back and watching the replay of that.

1426
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: Who was it this time? It was you? It was

1427
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: Who was it for the SEC Championship game?

1428
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 2: It was me, Harry Marty McGee. Yeah, so former NFL

1429
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: wide receiver and then two NASCAR guys, Right.

1430
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: Guys, are we doing anymore that? Like? Are we going

1431
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: to see that for the playoffs?

1432
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: No, I'm done done with with with all casts, Mega cast. Yeah,

1433
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: no more of those. I think Padd'll do some. I

1434
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: don't know if there's a plan to do more than

1435
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: one for each round, but no, I'm out on that.

1436
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 2: I'm We're not I'm not doing more of those. Okay,

1437
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: I'll do the pop tarts. Well, I don't think I'm

1438
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 2: supposed to say this yet.

1439
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, go ahead and break

1440
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: the news. Come on, come on, break the news.

1441
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not doing gonna do that, dude.

1442
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: The break the don't be the frostingless pop tart, have

1443
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: a little color, live a little bit, break the news.

1444
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: You're going down there, aren't you.

1445
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: Nope, No, because I know the PR department very well

1446
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: and they're good to me, and I'm gonna try to

1447
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: be good to them without dropping an elbow off the

1448
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: top rope on them. Not not fair to their jobs.

1449
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 1: So well, can I tell you what I heard?

1450
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: I could have said pop a bowl bowl. You don't

1451
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: even know what I was gonna say. So some of them,

1452
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna pop up at a ball somewhere.

1453
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: My sources have told me you you may be at.

1454
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: The pop tart bowl, got to hope.

1455
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, where there was a murder on.

1456
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: Better watch out?

1457
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: If I am there a little murder on live TV

1458
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: at that game last year, a toaster well.

1459
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: And if they have the Queen bed size pop tart,

1460
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: watch out.

1461
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I want you, if you just happen to be

1462
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, could you for real get us a

1463
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: chunk of that pop tart? Because I know what they

1464
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: taste like. I grew up on them. I loved them.

1465
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: But I really want to know what that huge pop

1466
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: tart that's the size of a city bus actually tastes like,

1467
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: is it legit?

1468
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: I will get I will get the most durable ziplock

1469
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: bag that they make, and I will literally just scoop it,

1470
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: dig into that thing like a kid at the beach

1471
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: in the sand, scoop it up, zip and either drop

1472
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 2: ship it to you or hand deliver it to you

1473
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: somehow someway.

1474
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: Because we got room on the set put it.

1475
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: We'll put it on dry ice and will mail it

1476
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 2: to your new cigar.

1477
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: Bar you got there, and this will all happen. This

1478
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 1: will all happen at the game that we don't know

1479
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: that you'll be at correct, Yes, and.

1480
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: You can chug it down with your strevia and make

1481
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: it happen.

1482
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 1: You serious, like, do you just hate us being successful

1483
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: at It's zvia? This is Zevia. I'll send you some

1484
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 1: of this for the pop tart that you may and

1485
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: you may not be a part of Paul Cublick Cube Show,

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