1 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: The day. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: Sweet world, Welcome to another bonus edition of No Dunks. 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: I'm Jad Skeets here in Atlanta with the Bearded One 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Trey Kirby. We've got super producer JD riding them levels, 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: and we've got a very special guest joining us on 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: the phone. Chuck Milan is founder and CEO of Team 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Flight Brothers. I know you've seen the YouTube clips people, 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: and he's now the NBA's official dunk contest coach. Chuck. 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, man. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. That's like so awesome to hear 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm a dunk contest coach for the NBA. It's pretty dope. 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: That is Uh, that's gotta be a first, right, I mean, 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: you're the only person in the world ever have this job. 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: I imagine they literally made a job for me. I'm living 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: a dream right now. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Man, this is crazy. Well, we have a million questions 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: for you, and again, thanks so much for finding the 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: time in what I can only imagine is a super 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: busy week for you with All Star Weekend, you know, 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: just around the corner here. 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: It's an honor to be on with you guys. 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Finally, well, for the people that maybe don't know Team 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: Flight Brothers or what you do now as an NBA 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: dunk coach. You know what exactly do you do, because 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: I've heard you quoted as saying you are the only 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: person in the world who gets paid to teach NBA 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: players how to dunk? So what do you do? 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: So basically, I kind of am like their brains, so 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: I kind of watch the way everybody jumps, and I 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: guess over the years with Team Flight Brothers and myself 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: just growing up a dunk nerd I've become kind of 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: a dunk psychologist, so I can kind of like watch 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: the way you walk, and I can be like, this 34 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: guy could do this dunk good. So they're coming to 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: me kind of since you know a lot of people 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: say all the dunks have been done, which is completely untrue, 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: and they come to me to help them do some 38 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: dunks that have never been done before. 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: So you correct me if I'm wrong. You were sort 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: of like a one on one sort of personal coach 41 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: to some of the guys that were in the dunk 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: content over the last couple of years, some of them 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: going on to win, like Lenn Rominson the third. But 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: now now you're actually sort of, like you said, employed 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: at least over the All Star break here by the 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: NBA to help what all the guys. 47 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what happens is it's up to the players. 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm mad. Now I'm made available to everybody. Okay, So 49 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: if somebody wants to get a practice in and they 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: want my help, they'll bring me in. If they don't, 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: then that's fine too. I'll you know, I'm always there 52 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: the night before for the practices to help them out 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: if they need it. But yeah, I'm just made available 54 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: to everybody now instead of just working with one guy. 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: How did you get into this? Like what's the I mean, 56 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: I know, I'm sure it's a very crazy long backstory, 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: but like I'm so fascinated, Like how does one like 58 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: yourself become the dunk coach? Like take as sort of 59 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: you know, as quickly as you can, I guess, in 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: a weird way through how that all came about? 61 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: So, like the whole story begins as like a high 62 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: schooler and I was known like around my city as 63 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: like a kid that could jump high. You know, I'm 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: six foot on a good day, I'm six' one on 65 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: tender look, but I was always known to be able 66 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: to be a good dunker. So I want a dunk 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: contest in Miami, one of the Hoop It Up dunk contests, 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: and a company that Nike was working with invited me 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: to go on tour and just do dunks for them, 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: And so I went around the world when I was 71 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: like eighteen nineteen years old and was putting on dunk 72 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: exhibitions and I was like, man, I know guys in 73 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: my town that can dune better than me. So once 74 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: I started, you know, my body started breaking down a little. 75 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: I said, I'll start a dunk company. So then Team 76 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Flight Brothers was born. We actually we were featured on 77 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: the front page of Yahoo, which you're the one who 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: put us on there, Yeah, back in two thousand and 79 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: seven with a clip of tea dub and we kind 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: of like blew up from there. So then years later, 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: all the people that were watching were kids that were 82 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: top players in the country, which led Terrence Roster each 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: out to me in twenty thirteen for help for the 84 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: dunk contest, and so that was kind of like the 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg him winning, and then the next 86 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: year him and John wall together and Paul George like 87 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: when they did the you know, East versus West format 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: we were just like, so all you have to do is, 89 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, just we if we went every round like 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: we're done, and the guys were like, yeah, it's like okay, 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: everybody best dunks like it. So it kind of just 92 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: went from there, and then you know, with Glenn Robinson 93 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: and then Donovan Mitchell and Hammie then it was like 94 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: the NBA. It was like they reached out to me. 95 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, could you just make yourself available to everybody? 96 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: And I was waiting for that the whole time, like 97 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: that's like a dream of mine to be working with 98 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: and coordinating the NBA Slam Dunk Contest. So now here 99 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: we are today. 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 3: So that first time with Terrence Ross, it must be 101 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: weird for you being the first dunk coach for the NBA, 102 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: but this also has to be the first time Terrence 103 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: Ross is working with. 104 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: A dunk coach. What's it like? Then? 105 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: When you get in the gym, you're you're just like, hey, 106 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: these are some great dunks I think you could pull off. 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: You want to give them shots? Yeah, So what I 108 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: do is I say, all right, just give me some 109 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 1: of your dunks, like, go ahead and show me something. 110 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: So I kind of just like watch what they do, 111 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's like, hey, man, that's perfect. I don't 112 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: need to change anything for you. But if there's something 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: I can tweak and make it like look a little 114 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: bit better, then I'll say, hey, why don't you try 115 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: this out? And most of the time they they're like, man, 116 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: that's not possible type of thing. So what I do 117 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: sometimes is I bring one of my dunkers in and 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: I just to show them, because my dunkers are you know, 119 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: five six inches shorter than all the NBA guys. Yeah, 120 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: just to show them that it's doable. And that's kind 121 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: of how it goes. It's kind of just like at 122 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: the same time, I'm helping them learn new dunks, but 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm trying to get them to 124 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: have that confidence to be a dunk champion. 125 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: And right, so you said, you know, you can explain 126 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: a dunk concept to them, but they're maybe not, like 127 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: they can't just wrap their head around it, or they 128 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: think it's impossible. So you literally have one of your 129 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: professional dunkers, right show them like, look, this can be done, 130 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: or at the very least you could try it, like 131 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: you said, being a bigger and maybe just as athletic 132 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: obviously because they're in the NBA sort of guy. 133 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And you know it's crazy because a lot 134 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: of the stuff that my guys do and the stuff 135 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: that goes crazy and goes viral. We're in the gym 136 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: for months trying that. That was three thousand takes to 137 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: make that one dunk. 138 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 139 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: Yes, So these guys have to go out there pretty 140 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: much cold NBA players, and they have to you know, 141 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: do awesome dunks. And you know a lot of times 142 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: people aren't happy with the dunk contest, but it's like, hey, man, 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: like they're trying harder dunks than everybody else. And I'll 144 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: tell you what, my guys aren't making it on the 145 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: first try either. Yeah, exactly. 146 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: I think that's what people forget. You're absolutely right, because 147 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: we even see a lot of people over the last 148 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: couple of years, and I'm interested to hear your take 149 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: on it, even like hey, what are we doing with 150 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: All Star weekend? Like why don't we get the professional 151 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: dunkers in there as well? Like why don't we join 152 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: or like you know, they either go head to head 153 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: or something along that lines, like one, do you think 154 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: that's a good idea, dumb idea or is it? Because 155 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: what you're saying, like, yeah, you see these viral clips, 156 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: but that's that's take two thousand and forty one. You 157 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: thought Birdman was bad when he took the Exactly, these 158 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: guys are in there all day and all week So 159 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: what do you what do you think about that? 160 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: So I'm on like both sides of the fence here, 161 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Like I think, like there is a couple of guys 162 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: that I mean, it would be awesome, and I think 163 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: it would only add to like the excitement of All 164 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Star weekend. But then at the same time, there's prestige 165 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: to being in the NBA. You have to earn your 166 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: way to the NBA, and we're pro dunkers on this side. 167 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: If I took NBA players and train them the way 168 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: pro dunkers do for six months, I'm like, and I 169 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: love my guys, but I'm not too proud to say, 170 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: like the NBA guys would. 171 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 2: Probably beat us right right, because they're just on another level. 172 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's not like exactly fair. It's like we're 173 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: in it, but at the same time, like like those 174 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: crazy dunks, like the double between the legs or the 175 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: behind the back between the legs, like those who never 176 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: happened in dunk contest for a reason. It's because we've 177 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: only made those dunks one time. Yeah, and then they 178 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, they go viral. 179 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you look for in a good dunker? 180 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: And I know the obvious answer is a guy that 181 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: could probably jump forty five inches in the air. But 182 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's other things to it, do you know 183 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like especially a you know, a professional dunker, 184 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: a guy going in a dunk contest. 185 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Like confidence, Confidence is key, and 186 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: like even being a little bit cocky, uh if you're 187 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: like last year with Hami Hammi Diallo was a last 188 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: second entry because Derek Jones got hurt. I'd never met him, 189 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: and I he just by chance was playing in Miami. 190 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: So I went across the alley and Victor Oladipo led 191 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: us in his gym to like so he could practice, 192 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: and he like knew he could jump high. So it 193 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: was like just kind of pointing him in the right direction, like, yo, 194 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: you know you can do anything I have on this list, 195 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, you're right, I can, so let's 196 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: do it. So confidence is like I think the biggest 197 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: key to being a great dunker, besides obviously jumping out 198 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: the gym. 199 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: Have there been times when you're bringing dunks to guys 200 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: and they don't think they can do it, and then 201 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: they land it and you're and they're just blown away 202 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: by actually being able to figure out something that they 203 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: didn't even think was possible. 204 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: So my most fun story is Glenn Robinson in twenty seventeen, 205 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: he broke the bank at Vegas. He was a plus 206 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred. I'm going into that contest. And his agent 207 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: at the time is one of my best friends, was 208 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Austin Brown, and he called me the night he found 209 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: out Glenn was going to be in the dunk contest. 210 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: He was like, I need you in Indiana tomorrow. And 211 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: so we got to work and the first time I 212 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: worked with him, it was bad, Like he had never 213 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: been in a dunk contest, never jumped over anyone, like, 214 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: never did anything. And so the first time I was like, dude, 215 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: this is going to be tough, man Like. Within like 216 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: three practices, he was clearing Paul George like easy, doing 217 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: windmills and reverses over him, and he was I remember 218 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: it was February sixth and I remember calling Austin being like, hey, 219 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: my job's done here, dude, Glenn's gonna win the d contest. 220 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: He's are you sure? Are you sure? And then it 221 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: was just pretty funny, like how it unwrapped because during 222 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: the contest we're underneath the hoop and there's like a 223 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: point after his first dunk where Austin you can actually 224 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: see on TV, He's like, you're six son of a bitch. 225 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: He's really gonna win this thing. Just like yeah, man, 226 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: So yeah. 227 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: It's always it's fascinating to me, like these guys again, 228 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: they're NBA athletes there, like they're maybe the most athletic 229 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: people in the world. And like you said, Chuck, you're 230 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: like you're six foot on a good day, you're there going, hey, 231 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: why don't you try jumping over a guy with another 232 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: guy on his shoulders? And it's just like, I is 233 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: there ever been a time where they're like, what are 234 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: you talking about? 235 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: Me? 236 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 2: Like what do you know sort of about like doing that, 237 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: like look at like that. That part is weird for me. Yeah. 238 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: The funny thing is is I remember twenty fourteen, I 239 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: went in the locker room with Terrence Ross and it's 240 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: when the teams were there and DeMar de Roodzen was 241 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: there and he's like looking for the guy that owns 242 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: Team Flight Brothers, and he was like you and like 243 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: I And at the time I was probably like two 244 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: hundred and like fifty pounds. I've lost like ninety since then. 245 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: There you go. 246 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: So but that was like the whole thing is like 247 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: I need to walk in the gym and be able 248 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: to dunk, you know what I mean. Like it's like 249 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: because these guys are looking at me, like what the 250 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: hell are you doing telling me how to dunk? Yeah, 251 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: but thankfully I've never had an issue with anyone, and 252 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: everybody that I've worked with has ended up doing pretty well. 253 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah that helps. I mean, you got a great track record, 254 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: Like back to Diallo last year. I know I've talked 255 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: to you sort of on Twitter, sort of offline you 256 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: said and correct me what I'm wrong. Like he had 257 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: dunks that he that he had in his bag that 258 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: he didn't even get to on that night, just because 259 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: the way the contest was unfolding, right. 260 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: We didn't we didn't even use his best dunk for 261 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: that night. Crazy, So he had he had two other 262 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: dunks that like I'd love to like say, but you 263 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: know I want him back in the dunk. Yeah, yeah, 264 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: yeah he does. And that's the you know, he texted 265 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: me the other day he was like, man, like next year, 266 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, and he's He's like next year. Man, He's like, 267 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: and we're doing it the first dunk. And initially we 268 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: were going to do Shack the first dunk, but Collins 269 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: got a low score and he was like, all right, 270 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this instead and then we'll do Shack. 271 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a question for you, like are you 272 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: and maybe it's different now because you said you're sort 273 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: of working for all the guys because you're working for 274 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: the NBA, so you can tell me he will be 275 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: different this year in Chicago. But like, you know, somebody 276 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: misses a dunk and Dallow's up. Are you like you 277 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: know right there going you know what that one we 278 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: were gonna do, the one we were gonna jump over Shack, 279 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: Let's let's save that, Let's do this one instead. You know, 280 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: are you sort of like on the fly helping them yet? 281 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: So I'm there, I'm right by the hoop, so they 282 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: can literally like talk to me. Yeah, like, uh, but 283 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: I tell him beforehand. I prep him beforehand. I'm like, listen, 284 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: it's like a guy gets a lower score, just do 285 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: what you know what to do, like get to the 286 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: next round, or you know, in Hami's case last year 287 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: when Dennis Smith, you know the bed, he is like, 288 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: all he had to do is make it dunk pretty much. 289 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: So he literally his last two dunks weren't played. They 290 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: were just dunks he did on the fly. Wow, because 291 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: he had it one already. 292 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: Now, will that be the same this year? Because you 293 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: are sort of for the NBA, like, well, you be 294 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: helping all the guys on Saturday night or is it 295 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: sort of the work is done now and you sit 296 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: back and sort of cross your arms and. 297 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: No, I mean I'll I'll help them and tell Saturday 298 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: until Saturday night and then it's on them like I'm 299 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: not gonna get in anybody's ear my. It's it is 300 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: tough because essentially I know what all the guys are 301 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna do. 302 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to be watching and just thinking, oh, 303 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: that's not gonna win. 304 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: That's if you're pulling on Saturday. 305 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: So the cool thing about this year is like that 306 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. So what My objective is to make 307 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: sure that everybody is going in there thinking that they 308 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: can win the dunk contest, right, So I just want 309 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: like I'd love to be you know, not it's like 310 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Toronto twenty sixteen. I'd love to go to four freaking 311 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: dunk offs. Uh. And these guys just use every dunk 312 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: that we planned and them just get every fifty they can. Like, 313 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: I want to prepare them and help them get fifties, 314 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: like I you know, every single one of them. It's like, 315 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's like your kids. It's like you have kids. 316 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, I love them all the same, right, but. 317 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: You would like to see a four way tie with 318 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: every guy getting fifties. I just have to call it. 319 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see the first round go like 320 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: eight dunks. 321 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be all right. So yeah, okay, so 322 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: I know, and I know, look, I'm sure people are like, 323 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: you got to ask the dunk guy who he think 324 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: is gonna win, But it sounds like you're not even 325 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: gonna be able to say who you would lean towards 326 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: that fair out of Dwight pat Connatan, Aaron Jordan, of course, 327 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: Derek Jones Jr. 328 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I hope they all win. 329 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: Diplomatic answer. 330 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd like my job, so you know, i'd 331 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: like to keep it. 332 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: So is it tough for you then, because I imagine 333 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: every guy's got to come in with four dunks, you know, 334 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: all four guys, so you know all four dunks. So 335 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: you've gotta be thinking to yourself. I don't want them 336 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: repeating a dunk that we saw from the first round 337 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: from Pat Commons and Dwight Howard can't do that as 338 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: his third dunk. Yeah, it's got to be sixteen individual dunks. 339 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: So what I do with every guy is I like 340 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: to have them prepared with six to eight dunks so 341 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: it's not just four. So they don't go in there 342 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: just like okay, these are my four because I mean 343 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: that's happened where it's like, oh, shoot, these guys are 344 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: gonna do the same dunk. Well, whoever does it first, 345 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: the other guy's got to go to his backup dunk. 346 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: And so I like to I like to give them 347 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: at least six dunks to have prepared for the contest 348 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: in case somebody does it, like does it dunk before then, 349 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: or in case somebody misses and they don't need to, 350 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, jump over a car or something. 351 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: How important, Chuck, is it to have experience in a 352 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: dunk contest? Like I mean you did, say Glenn Robinson 353 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: the thirty like went on to win the thing without 354 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: ever having done one. But is it fair to assume 355 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: like a guy like Derek Jones Junior, or Aaron Gordon 356 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: or even Dwight Howard back in the day, just having some 357 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: experience on the big stage makes you a better dunker. 358 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 359 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I would think so. But the thing is is, 360 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: like even Derek Jones, he was in high school and 361 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: he did all these dunk contests, and he actually did 362 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: a dunk contest in high school in my hometown, and it, 363 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: to this day is one of the most impressive dunk 364 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: contests I've ever seen. Like it's like there with like 365 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Vince and Gordon, Like it was unreal. He made everything 366 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: the first dunk and like dunks that had never been 367 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: done before. But one two step on that floor, and 368 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: I like explain this to him. I'm like, one, your 369 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: adrenaline is gonna be crazy too. This is the only 370 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: time that you're gonna be on the court by yourself 371 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: in front of twenty two thousand people, you know what 372 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, so if you're not like ready for that, 373 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: that could hit you. And that's like kind of it 374 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: happened to Derek a little bit the first time. Yeah, 375 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: so I think like being in contest is great, but 376 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: that confidence to know, like when all the eyes are 377 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: on you and to be able to deliver is a 378 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: whole different ballgame. 379 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: What are your tips to someone that wants to be 380 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: a future NBA dunk champ, Like, are there, like, you know, 381 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: do you have like sort of staples, like little you know, 382 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: rules that you live by to try and get to 383 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: that level. 384 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: I mean just call me. I guess I don't know. 385 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: That's a good no, I honestly, I guess it's just 386 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: like all tight, like the stars kind of have to align, 387 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: like you have to be a freak athlete. But like 388 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: I said, the confidence thing is like is everything. And 389 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: if you're like a lesser known player in the NBA, 390 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: would I tell them, I'm just like, yo, just go 391 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: off and warm up. So your stuff's on social media, 392 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, like like you got like Rajeon Tucker in 393 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Utah who is like an awesome dunker, Like I would 394 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: have loved to have seen him in the Dunk Contest, 395 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: but you know, I was like, yo, man, you got 396 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: to go off and warm up. Yeah, you can't just 397 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: tweet that you want to be in the dunk Contest. 398 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: You need to get some dunks, man, Yeah, you need. 399 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: You need to show those dunks. So people on Twitter 400 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: are going, wow, this guy should be in and yeah, 401 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 2: there's a little buzz building for them. 402 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So that's that's basically Yeah, I guess 403 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: my answer for that. 404 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: How involved are you in the showmanship aspect of the 405 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: dunk Contest? Because, I mean, the dunks are awesome, but 406 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: you got to get the crowd, crowd hype, You got 407 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 3: to have a good celebration when you land. You might 408 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: want to have like some sort of an intro when 409 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: you walk out something like that. 410 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 2: Are you involved on that end? 411 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? I have like been producing for the past couple 412 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: of years of like how people like build up the dunks, 413 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: Like when Glenn, you know, brought more people onto the 414 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: floor like in total to get on each other's shoulders, 415 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: like kind of just build the anticipation. Last year with 416 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: HAMI when he you know, I told him to make 417 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: sure the camera's there so he could like peak the 418 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: Superman to everybody before he went over shack and like uh, 419 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: you know Donovan throwing it off the regular backboard first 420 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: and then bringing the other backboard in like stuff like that. 421 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: Like I say, dunks, like a dunk is like telling 422 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: a story. So there's a beginning, a middle, of an 423 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: end and end. So the beginning is the anticipation and 424 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: getting everybody excited for the dunk. The middle is you know, 425 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: making your dunk, and then the end is your celebration 426 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: and that and your story is done. And you know, 427 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: if you do it the right way, it's always going 428 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: to be a good story. And if you do it 429 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: the wrong way, then your bird man yeah. 430 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, or even like uh yeah, sometimes the anticipation I 431 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: think you can you can oddly almost do it incorrectly, 432 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: Like yeah, guys putting down tape at times and stuff. 433 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't put tape down ever? 434 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: What and why do you say that specifically just because 435 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: you're you're you're you're building too much anticipation. 436 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: Josh Smith, Jamario Moon, Like it's not it just it 437 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: doesn't really end well unless your name is Michael Jordan. 438 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: If you're putting tape, Yeah, for the most part. You're 439 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: right about that. Do you have a favorite dunk contests 440 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: of all time? I mean, you are the dunk guru. 441 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 2: I like to pretend I know a lot about dunk contests. 442 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure you would absolutely kill me in trivia. But 443 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: do you have a favorite one? 444 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, my sixteenth birthday was February twelve, two thousand. 445 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: Vince Carter, my. 446 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, that's not bad. 447 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: That's the greatest dunk you know, performance of all time, 448 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I believe, and I know like ag and exacted some 449 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: incredible things in Toronto. But without Vince Carter in two thousand, 450 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: there wouldn't be I wouldn't have a business like there 451 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't be like pro dunking. He changed a lot of 452 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: like things and outlooks. He pretty much changed. I know, 453 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: he changed my life with that dunk contest. 454 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you tweeted that. I saw that. You said quote 455 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: Vince not only changed my life but changed a whole 456 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: culture that many don't even know exists. And not to 457 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: be dramatic, but with OVC, I honestly may not be 458 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: alive today, is what you tweeted. 459 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, real stuff, man, Like I grew up like on 460 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: a you know, on a serious note, but like on 461 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: a happy you note. I grew up. I've lived with 462 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: manic depression my whole life, and that Vince Carter dunk 463 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: contest I've watched probably you know, ten thousand times, and 464 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: that's that was always my safe zone when I was 465 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: a kid growing up. So it's like that literally changed 466 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: my life, and it changed the life for a lot 467 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: of people by me starting my business. And without that contest, 468 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, that wouldn't have happened. 469 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: That's crazy. And look and that was I mean, I 470 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: mean he literally saved the dunk contest too, yeah, and 471 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: put it back on the map. 472 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: They brought it back just for him. Yeah, but for 473 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: the low I mean, for the love of god, Two Ball, Like, come. 474 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: On, they're like jumpers. 475 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I remember I was. I was watching 476 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: that All Star Week and hoping it was a joke, 477 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: and I still was recording it because I was like, 478 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a dunk contest. 479 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: They can't do this to me. 480 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: Then Two Ball, I was like, maybe Clyde Drexel were 481 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: dunk or something. I don't know, but it was just bad. 482 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: So if that's your favorite dunk contest of all time, 483 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: two thousand in Oakland. I assume Vince Carter is your 484 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: favor dunker of all time? Who else? Who else is 485 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: on your sort of Mount Rushmore And maybe it's not 486 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: even NBA guys. 487 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: If you want, man, I'll just stick to NBA guys. 488 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: And well, so Harold Minor, yeap, love loved Harold Miner. 489 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: You know, dude that didn't even win. Jamie Watson was 490 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: in ninety five, and I just love that dude's like swag, 491 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: like his three sixty windmills and stuff. 492 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna have to 493 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: go check that one out. I know who you're talking about, 494 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: but I can't remember this dunk. 495 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: Listen, that dude had one of the smoothest three sixty 496 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: windmills and it was like in ninety five, so it's 497 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: like people weren't do it. You know, it was really nice. 498 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: But yes, Harold Minor and then Jason Richardson, Oh yeah, 499 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: I was. I was like heartbroken that Gerald Wallace was 500 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: so terrible because in high school he was like so awesome. 501 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: And then yeah, those are those are pretty much my guys. 502 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: And then everybody who's won helping me with my help? 503 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, and it's a lot as we've gone through. 504 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite Do you have a favorite 505 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: dunk of all time? 506 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: It's I'll stand with Vince Man the three sixty window. 507 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: It just doesn't get better than that. The anticipation, you know, 508 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: the the ball flip and just walking back and Kenny, 509 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: you know Kenny Smith. If he goes from the free 510 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: throw line right now, I'm gonna lose it. It's like 511 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: nobody knew what was gonna happen. And he did a 512 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: dunk that had never been seen before, and like the power, 513 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: the elevation beautiful if you if you watch the crowd, 514 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: it's like somebody just hit a game winner in the 515 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: NBA Finals. That dunk like that, I just think that's 516 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: the greatest dunk of all time. 517 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: I love how he, like Vince bounces up a second 518 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: time too. 519 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: It just looks, Yeah, I wish, I wish I could 520 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: jump that high just once, Like the way he bounced 521 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: back up. Yeah, that was just that dunk and just 522 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: being his first dunk like that changed my outlook on everything. 523 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: And that dunk, like I go with people, and I 524 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: like people to come out and just like do a 525 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: crazy dunk first, just because of that. Yeah, got to 526 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: set the tone. Man, if you're in a position to 527 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: do that, that can really mess up people that are 528 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: going and after you know Jerry Stackhouse, you know the. 529 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: Two handed three sixty dunk in NBA contest testory. 530 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, the crowd at the time still like buzzing 531 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: about Vince and Jerry's up there. 532 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: Trying to that poor dude, and then even Ricky Davis. 533 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I felt bad for him because I was like, man, 534 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: this guy's a great dunker and it's just like no, man, 535 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: Like it's just nobody's doing anything here. Vince. 536 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: One, is there a dunk chuck that you wish you 537 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: could like get a mulligan on? And what I mean 538 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 2: by that is one of your guys maybe that you've 539 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: helped over the last couple of years. Like you're like, man, 540 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: either I wish we could have approached that a little differently, 541 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: or even I just wish he had cleanly got that 542 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: down and then maybe it's a totally different outcome. Is 543 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: there one that sticks out? 544 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so there's one that I didn't like really work 545 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: with because I was working with Terrence Ross. But I 546 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: really wish James Light would have made his first dunk 547 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: his free throw line, so he would add confidence and 548 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: that was like a Legiti free throw line. Yeah, and 549 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: then I think Glenn like nobody like really realized it 550 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: and he didn't do right, but in practice he did. 551 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: He did a three sixty windmill, but he dabbed while 552 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: he was doing it, and if you watch it, like 553 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: if he would have got that cleanly on the replay, 554 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: that would have looked crazy, right, So those two are 555 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: probably the ones. 556 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: There's one were you did you say you were working 557 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: with Oladipo. 558 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: The one yeah, yeah, okay, so the the between the 559 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: legs over Alfred Peyton. I was trying to get him 560 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: to do it like over Alford standing up, and he 561 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: was like that's too tall. And I didn't have I 562 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: couldn't physically be with vict like that week, so like 563 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't show him that like yeah, you could absolutely 564 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: do this. But yeah, that's how that's how that happened. 565 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: And there's the one too where he u I guess 566 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: it was the year where he did the black panther 567 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: with the mask and all that and he yea, he 568 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: just he just misses like a pretty sick like sort 569 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: of like twisting reverse you know the one I'm talking all. 570 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: The reverse windmill, so that's it. We he like, I 571 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: actually have videos of it, Like he was killing that 572 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: dunkin practice, Victor, Like after the practices, I was like, 573 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: man Oladpo can win this thing for sure, because he 574 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: had like a dunk that nobody had ever done before 575 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: in his arsenal too, Like he did a three sixty 576 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: like Dwight Howard, tap off the backward to himself and like, 577 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: and it was like it's like, man, VIC might win 578 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: and him just missing that reverse one mill and literally 579 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: the black panther thing came out of nowhere. It happened 580 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: like last second, and I remember I was like, are 581 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: you sure you want to do this? He was like 582 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I guess, so you know what 583 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: I was like, But I was like, I don't know. 584 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: I was like, can you see can you like breathe 585 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: in that thing? He was like He's like I can 586 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: breathe just fine, but I can't really see. I'm just 587 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: like this is not good. Yeah, So I was I 588 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: was against that, but you know, I mean that would 589 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: have been cool because the first one, the reverse onemill 590 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: like looked crazy. 591 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: It looks so cool yeah, even even on the miss 592 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: it looks cool. You're like, oh, if that would have 593 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: went down, this would have been different. 594 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: How do you feel about props in general, because it's 595 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: funny thinking back now, I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember 596 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: when hoverboards were a thing, or when dabbing was a thing, 597 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: or when DJ Khaled was a thing. They all end 598 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: up in the dunk contest. Yeah, but I mean you're 599 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: probably not pro props, but I mean guys have to 600 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: suggest it it sometimes, right. 601 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: So like when when it comes to like somebody like 602 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: props that take the control out of the dunker's hands, 603 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: then I hate it. I like the dunkers to have control. 604 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Like if they're jumping over somebody with like the ball 605 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: on top of their head, that's fine because the ball's 606 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. But if somebody else is like holding 607 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: the ball or passing it, it's just so tough because 608 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: it's these are this is your chance in the dunk contest, 609 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: and like I would hate for that to be wasted 610 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: because of somebody else's fault. 611 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, how much, Like I'm always wonder that because you know, 612 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: these guys that they pull out generally teammates to like 613 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: throw it off the side of the glass or hold 614 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: it like you said, or balance it like we've seen. 615 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 2: How are they, from what you know, putting a lot 616 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: of practice into that? Or sometimes these guys just because 617 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: there's you know, sitting there and they're a teammate, like, 618 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: hey man, we helped me out, Like how much effort 619 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: is that? 620 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think like a lot of practice 621 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: goes into that. Yeah, And that's why I mean a 622 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: couple of years ago in Donovan, my assistant Chase threw 623 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: the ball for him because he was like, I don't care. 624 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: He was like, I don't care who throws the ball, 625 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: just I need to make the dunk. It's like, all right, 626 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: well Chase is your guy then, so I I mean, 627 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of practices put into it. 628 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: I guess Homi and Uh in Westbrook practice a little bit. 629 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: But Westbrooklake was messing with me. I was like, are 630 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: you good? He was like, man, I hope, I don't 631 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: suck it up. I was just like, what are you doing? Broke? 632 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean? And him and 633 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: PG are just like messing with me the whole time. 634 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: But it's uh, some do some don't. 635 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: I guess so when you correctly, yeah, you're you're pro props, 636 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: but you don't like the uh the drone, let's say 637 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: where it's like that's definitely not up to you, that's 638 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: out of your hands. 639 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what, man. Like I loved the 640 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: drone because I was working for Glenn Robinson, so I 641 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: was happy. But but yeah, when that happened, I was 642 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: just like, uh like when he went, I was like, yeah, 643 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: Glenn's winning, like this is I just I didn't think 644 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: it was a good idea and that there's just too 645 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: much room for fault and then you miss so much 646 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: the shock value's gone and like for some reason he 647 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: got like seven tries. Yeah, but you know something like that. 648 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's smart, No. 649 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: Especially when everybody knows what you're capable of already. Yeah too, 650 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: that sort of made it worse in Aaron Gordon's yeah 651 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: the drone instance there. 652 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but hopefully he'll redeem himself this year. He's got 653 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: he's gonna have some good stuff. 654 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: I love that he's back in it. I mean, you 655 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: really do. It's really cool, you know, just as obviously 656 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: an NBA fan, a Dunk contest fan, you know some 657 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: of these guys have a bad performance, they get laughed 658 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 2: at a little bit on Twitter whenever everybody gets their 659 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: shots off, you know. But yeah, for him to be like, no, 660 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: I want to go back in it, like I want, 661 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: Like that's really cool. 662 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: Like I think it involves it. Yeah, yeah, I think 663 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: it's awesome. And Aaron is a dunk nerd too. He's 664 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: like been watching you know, our dunk videos since he 665 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: was like fourteen years old. 666 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: That's cool. 667 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: So so he's like he knows about pro dunking and stuff, 668 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: and he knows like the dunks, like that's where he 669 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: got you know, his dunks from in twenty sixteen. So 670 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm really happy he's in it again. And there's just 671 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: like somebody else that you know, is playing a sick 672 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 1: joke on all of us that I wish was in it. 673 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: But you know, you know, I guess we'll just watch 674 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: it in the three point contest. 675 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: Maybe he'll maybe he'll dunk from the three point contest 676 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: in the three point contest. 677 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: Just just do it, man, you know. 678 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned a couple of dunks that we haven't 679 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: seen in the contest, like a double between the legs 680 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: but or behind the back between the legs. I guess 681 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: the seven twenty is still out there. 682 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: Seven twenty is still out there, but you're never going 683 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: to see these I don't. Then you never know, man, 684 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: Like there could be one of the there could be 685 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: one of those three that could be Uh, this could 686 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: be the year. Well I love it, yeah, man, we 687 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: there's there's a these these guys are super talented. Man. 688 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be one of the best 689 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: dunk contests. Uh. I think it's gonna give twenty sixteen 690 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: a run for its money for sure. 691 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: Oh that's what we want to hear. Do you get 692 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: do you get any sort of say chuck in who 693 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: you would like to see in the dunk contest? Or 694 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: is that sort of out of your hands? 695 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: And then no, that's not really in my hands. Yeah, 696 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, like the names will like you know, it 697 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: would be floated by me. But that that's I have 698 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: no control over who's in the contest. If I did, 699 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: there would be ten people in it. But yeah, that's 700 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: just not that's out of my control. 701 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: Are you a fan of I guess you are sort 702 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: of expanding the dunk contest field to maybe make it 703 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: more than four, which we've been doing for the last 704 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: couple of years here maybe to go to six or 705 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: eight or something like that. 706 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: I think it should be six. Yeah, I you know, 707 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: like I and I always voice that too, but it's 708 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: just like, you know, it's out of my control, and 709 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: it's even out of my higher ups control. So but 710 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: I think six should be in the Dunk Contest no 711 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: matter what. That's that's how it was for a long time. 712 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: And you know that's how it wasn't two thousand. If 713 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: it ain't broke, don't fix it. 714 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we we we've talked about it on the 715 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: show before, especially Trey, and I like what I love 716 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: about expanding it to six. Let's say is, you know, 717 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: the best thing about dun contest is when you at 718 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: least get two guys going head to head, they're feeling 719 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: it that night that you know, they're challenging each other. 720 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: That's generally all the best dunk contests. It's like at 721 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: least two guys are are good, and you you know, 722 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: expanding it to six, you just have more bites at 723 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: the apple right of that. 724 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, possibly for sure, because I just I completely agree, 725 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: and there's you know, no matter what, like there's usually 726 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: those two guys and you know, having six in there, like, 727 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, two of these guys are no matter what, 728 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome, you know what I mean. So I like, 729 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm completely with that, and I think it just makes 730 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: more room for like more dunks and new dunks. Man Like, 731 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: it's just more entertainment. We had, you know, forty three 732 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: people in the three point contest last year, so you know, 733 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: but yeah. 734 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe down the line, maybe the NBA will we'll 735 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: hear what we're saying here. I just have a weird like, 736 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't know this, maybe this is too nerdy but 737 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: or technical, I guess. But you know, All Star Saturday Night, 738 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: you know, these other these other events are going on. 739 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 2: We've got the Skills Challenge, We've got three point contest. 740 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: What are the dunk guys doing? Are they in the 741 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: back warming up? Do you encourage them to do that? 742 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: Always fascinated, Like are they just sitting there watching the 743 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: three point Contest? 744 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: So I do like encourage them to I encourage them 745 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: to like warm up? Yeah, but you know half will 746 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: be out there just watching the festivities and then they 747 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: go out and get their cold, man Like, no matter what, 748 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: the dunkers are going to be cold. They get to 749 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: like jump around a couple of times while like while 750 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: the judges are getting introduced. 751 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: Yep. 752 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: But besides that, I mean it's tough. That's why I 753 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: say with pro dunkers, I'm like, man, like we have 754 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: to go through a whole like thirty forty five minutes, 755 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, deal to get warm. We don't get to 756 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: do that in the NBA contest. Those guys are cold, man, 757 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: which makes it even more impressive when they go out 758 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: and you know, kill it. 759 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely agree with that. I mean, it's it's always 760 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: it's just a weird I mean, I guess there's outside 761 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: of just being in the back or on a practice 762 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: corps just jump jumping for forty minutes. I mean, you're 763 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: you're going to run into that issue regardless. 764 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember telling Donovan Mitchell. I was just like, hey, man, 765 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: like are you gonna warm up and stuff? And he's like, Chuck, 766 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm twenty one. 767 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: That's the other part. Yeah, Yeah, he's got a point, 768 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: doesn't he. 769 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, So I guess that means 770 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: Dwight's gonna be doing some like serious stretching this year 771 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: before he'll be in the back just wet and. 772 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: Phone rolling on the sidelines the whole time. He's waiting. 773 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Well we won't. 774 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: Keep it too much longer. But before we go, you 775 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: said you've lost ninety pounds, So congratulations on that. That's unbelievable, man, 776 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: thank you very much. Have you gotten back to being 777 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: able to throw it down like you like you were? 778 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: I can dunk again, but it's not you know, I'm 779 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: going to be thirty six tomorrow. Oh, happy birthday, Vince 780 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Carter's don't contest. And then but yeah, I can dunk 781 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: with just like one hands and two hands. It's nothing, 782 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: it's nothing crazy. And if I do it more than 783 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: three times, then I like am super wrapped up. 784 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: With Yeah, that's called getting old man. 785 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, the back hurts, the shoulders hurt, the knees hurt. 786 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: It's but but yeah, I can dunk again. 787 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: But I know you've sort of been helping I guess 788 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: offline a little bit. I don't know if he's paying you. 789 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're getting paid from a man 790 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: TK here, But you're trying to help Trey get back 791 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: into the dunk game. How is that going? How's he 792 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: going as a as a pupil. 793 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: Chase and I are trying to get him right. Chase 794 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: is like, get your body right kind of guy, and 795 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm the technique guy. Okay, but we didn't tell him 796 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: how much it's gonna cost. We're just gonna invoice on this. 797 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 2: That's a smart man. 798 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 3: As you're charging by the inch, we're already plus two baby. 799 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: That will work. Man. Yeah, Trey's gonna be dunkin by summertime. 800 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: I feel it. 801 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: I can't wait. I hope he's throwing it down in 802 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: our weekly Wednesday night runs. I'll throw you a noop. Yeah, 803 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: keep throwing it. 804 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll forget it, but. 805 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: Just throwing up there. 806 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: Just lower the hoop a little trip, that's right. 807 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Well, Chuck, Look, thank you so much. I've 808 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: been wanting to have you on this podcast for a 809 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: long time because, like as you can see, we had 810 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: a million questions about how you got started, what you 811 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: actually do, and I love your passion of course for 812 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: the Dunk Contest All Star Weekend in general. So I 813 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: know you can't give us a prediction as in who's 814 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 2: gonna win this Saturday, but it sounds like you you're 815 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: on board with it being one of the best or 816 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: at least you know, knock on wood. That's the hope. 817 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: Four dunks that have never been done before will happen 818 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: in this contest. 819 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, that is what we want to hear. 820 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: That's a nut. There you go. 821 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: That's a nice little plug. Chuck. Where can what's the 822 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: easiest way for people to follow you online? 823 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: Instagram at Team flight Brothers and at TFB Chuck the 824 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: bost on Instagram and Twitter and whatever you know. Book 825 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: us for some dunk shows. We're good. 826 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 2: Reach out to Chuck Milan. He is the NBA dunk 827 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: coach guru. Chuck, thanks so much, man, and hopefully we'll 828 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: run into sometimes this weekend in Chicago. 829 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. You could stay every day 830 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: and that be happy every many. 831 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: It's been so long that yoa 832 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: Ready, it's gonna be goody