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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Wednesday edition

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Speaker 2: of the program.

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Speaker 3: We hope that all of you are.

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Speaker 2: Having a fantastic start to your day, and we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of topics to discuss. Kevin McCarthy has announced

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Speaker 2: just in the last what hour or so that he

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Speaker 2: is going to be leaving Congress. He was the Speaker

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Speaker 2: of the House, he was removed, and now he is

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Speaker 2: going to be leaving Congress. So we will see what

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Speaker 2: exactly the future has for him, whether there's anything in

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Speaker 2: the political universe, but certainly the overall majority of Republicans

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Speaker 2: in the House, given that Santos has been voted out,

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Speaker 2: continues to decline and make doing anything difficult. The fourth

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Speaker 2: Republican debate and potentially the final debate of the primary

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Speaker 2: season with Chris Christy, with Vivek Ramaswami, with Nicki Haley,

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Speaker 2: and with Ron DeSantis on the stage, will be tonight

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Speaker 2: on News Nation, I believe is the station, and to

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Speaker 2: be fair, Buck, I'm gonna have to look and see

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Speaker 2: if I even have News Nation to see whether or

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Speaker 2: not I can even watch this thing, And I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of you are going to be running around

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Speaker 2: because it's a holiday season. I've got a holiday party

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Speaker 2: to go to too, so I might have to DVR

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Speaker 2: this thing. But I bet the viewership, given the fact

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Speaker 2: that it's going to be hard to find for many

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Speaker 2: people and this network is, and also the fact that

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Speaker 2: it's happening in the middle of the holiday season, is

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Speaker 2: going to mean that it is substantially lower viewership. Then

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Speaker 2: I bet fewer people watch this than watch DeSantis Newsom

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Speaker 2: last week in what was the big time throw down there.

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Speaker 2: But we've got a lot to get into. Riley Gaines

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Speaker 2: testified about transgender participation in sports. There's some great clips

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Speaker 2: that we want to dive into. The will break down

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Speaker 2: the fourth of the debates and see whether or not

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Speaker 2: we think there's any significance or anyone has anything in

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Speaker 2: particular to gain as we try to determine who might

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Speaker 2: be the alternative to Donald Trump in the sense that

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Speaker 2: we're ever gonna get down to a second alternative. But Buck,

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Speaker 2: I want to play some audio from a hearing yesterday

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Speaker 2: that involved many of the presidents of the so called

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Speaker 2: most elite universities in the country testifying about anti Semitism

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Speaker 2: on campus.

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Speaker 3: And if you haven't heard these clips, I think.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of staggering, and I've got several different thoughts

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Speaker 2: on it. I bet you do too, Buck. But here,

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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and play cut five. This is at

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Speaker 2: least stephonic shaming college presidents. Just listen to this audio.

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Speaker 2: I think if you haven't heard it already, your jaw

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Speaker 2: may well drop.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: So is your test mony that you will not add sir?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: If it uh?

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Speaker 3: Is this yes or no?

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Speaker 4: If the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment. Yes,

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Speaker 4: conduct meaning committing the act of genocide. The speech is

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Speaker 4: not harassment. This is unacceptable, Miss Micguil and doctor Gay

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Speaker 4: at Harvard. Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate

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Speaker 4: Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Or no?

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Speaker 3: It can be depending on the context.

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Speaker 4: What's the context?

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Speaker 7: Targeted as an individual?

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Speaker 4: It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals. Do you understand

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Speaker 4: your testimony is dehumanizing them? Do you understand that dehumanization

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Speaker 4: is part of anti Semitism? I will ask you one

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Speaker 4: more time. Calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard

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Speaker 4: Code of conduct correct.

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Speaker 2: Again, it depends on the context.

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Speaker 4: It does not depend on the context. The answer is yes,

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Speaker 4: and this is why you should resign. These are unacceptable

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Speaker 4: answers across the board.

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Speaker 3: Okay, boy gay Clay, Yeah, so so much.

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Speaker 8: Here university presidents have discovered First Amendment absolutism and context

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Speaker 8: and nuance and all of these different really important things

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Speaker 8: that make it hard to give clear answers and tell

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Speaker 8: people what's really going on here. Let me just there's

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Speaker 8: a few ways we could run this experiment to get

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Speaker 8: to the real answers. One is imagine for a moment

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Speaker 8: that we weren't We weren't in the midst of this

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Speaker 8: and all the anti Semitism is going on under just

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Speaker 8: calling for the genocide of Native Americans. Yes, I know,

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Speaker 8: but I mean calling for it today. Would that be

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Speaker 8: a violation of your code of conduct at the school?

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Speaker 3: Every single university presence.

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Speaker 8: Not only would they be saying yes, of course, but

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Speaker 8: and notice on this issue because they have little pro

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Speaker 8: hamas lunatics running around their campuses, and because a lot

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Speaker 8: of the elite schools have taken huge sums of money

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Speaker 8: over the last ten or fifteen years from Gulf countries,

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Speaker 8: part of this. All of a suddenly they're saying it

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Speaker 8: all depends on the context. No outrage, no anger at

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Speaker 3: I think we all see exactly what's going on here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think what Jewish people are learning is they're

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Speaker 2: basically seen as white people and there is no protection

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Speaker 2: for anti white speech on campus. In fact, it's actually encouraged.

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Speaker 2: And I look, I am a free speech absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Could I just throw something young.

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Speaker 8: Because I think it's important cleave what you're saying. I

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Speaker 8: would have to throw in the proviso for a protected group. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: what would the university president say? But to your point,

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Speaker 8: if you were again take it out of the context

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Speaker 8: of this hearing, but under normal times, if you asked

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Speaker 8: the president of Harvard, should would you be able to

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Speaker 8: say that there should be a the destruction of whiteness

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Speaker 8: is a worthy goal in America? They would all say, yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's covered by free speech, correct. I mean, I am

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Speaker 8: a free speech absolutist. So if they were going to

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Speaker 8: that I understand the concept.

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Speaker 3: Right. But let me just give you an example.

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Speaker 2: In the immediate aftermath of George Floyd's the video that

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Speaker 2: had students march on their campus saying that police needed

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Speaker 2: that was the march, right, Because when you're calling for genocide,

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Speaker 2: Harvard's campus, but I didn't say it. If you had

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Speaker 2: modern day KKK. Let's say, would they let the KKK

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Speaker 3: I fail to see.

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Speaker 2: From a purely free speech analysis, how you can distinguish

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Speaker 2: the genocide of Jewish people. And if you can't distinguish

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Speaker 2: university presidents, I think, should have to answer for why

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Speaker 2: their speech protections fluctuate depending on who is being attacked

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Speaker 2: commitment to free speech principles, that is a context determinant

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Speaker 3: I do think it's.

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Speaker 8: Really interesting as well to see that there's a lot

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Speaker 8: of expectation in this country of racial solidarity from minorities

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Speaker 8: with the Palestinians and fascinating and not with the Jewish

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Speaker 3: Most Jewish people.

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Speaker 2: Are seen that You're right one hundred percent, but they're

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Speaker 8: This is my point is that is that the it's

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Speaker 3: That ignores the fact.

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Speaker 8: That there are a lot of Jews who are you know,

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Speaker 8: you would not know that they are not white, or

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Speaker 8: they're you know, they're Middle Eastern or they're Ethiopian. I mean,

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Speaker 8: but I keep going back to that, and it doesn't

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Speaker 8: even in this context. They're ignorance. We just take their

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Speaker 8: ignorance for granted at some level on this right, they

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Speaker 8: don't know these kids marching around the White House interns,

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Speaker 8: which we'll talk about maybe in a minute. They don't

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Speaker 8: even understand the real racial dynamics of Israel and the.

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Speaker 8: But you can tell that there is this expectation of

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Speaker 8: this is the perception I'm talking about, perception the brown

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Speaker 8: the West. That is how the left views this. They

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Speaker 8: actually a secondary level of analysis for them. And you

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Speaker 8: see that that is, you know, in this country, the

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Speaker 8: sort of toxicity of racial politics has now become such

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Speaker 8: a sudden, raised Trump's religion in the oppression situation or

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Speaker 8: you know, the way they gave oppression by the way,

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Speaker 8: Sonny Houston, not a surprise at all, of course, Sonny

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Speaker 8: View expressing her her view, pardon me on this one,

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Speaker 8: your solidarity, I bet with the university press.

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Speaker 3: It's funnylay you say that.

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Speaker 8: I was just thinking, I just see that we have

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Speaker 8: a cut from Sunny hostin on the View, and why

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Speaker 8: is it that I know that she's going to be

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Speaker 8: defending the university press, who are taking a very different

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Speaker 8: that hamas apologist maniacs can spew their anti Semitism as

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Speaker 8: much as they want.

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Speaker 3: We know this because well we know how they roll

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Speaker 3: over at the View. This is cut eight play it.

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Speaker 9: So when we're talking about this one on one type

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Speaker 9: of thing, yes, that is when that conduct leads to

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Speaker 9: harassment and could be actionable by the university. And that's

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Speaker 9: exactly what hard has it said you have to commit

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Speaker 9: genocide to be able to condemn genocidal language like that's

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Speaker 9: a that's a dangerous slippery slow Yeah. But again, use

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Speaker 9: of that type of example is really inflammatory and it

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Speaker 9: does that actual being used on college campus, it dissorts

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Speaker 9: what the law is. The law protects that kind of language,

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Speaker 9: and in my opinion, in my opinion, college is the

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Speaker 9: perfect place to have these sorts of uncomfortable conversations. Even

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Speaker 9: the English students don't feel comfortable in The ACLU said

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Speaker 9: that the Supreme Court cannot prevent speech that is likely

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Speaker 9: to provide a hostile response.

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Speaker 6: Said this, on any other community on Earth other than Jews,

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Speaker 6: I would be canceled ten times to Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, that's was that, Alyssa Pharr Griffin, to her credit, correct, Look,

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Speaker 2: you can't have shifting.

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Speaker 3: Speech rights based on but that's what the speaker is.

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Speaker 2: But all of a sudden to only allow these things

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Speaker 1: Truth Seeking, Reality Telling The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We played

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Speaker 2: for you the university response to actual calls for genocide

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Speaker 2: Biden, as we have been talking with you for a

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Speaker 2: To even think about. I was an intern back in

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Speaker 8: First of all, the fact that just what I'm so,

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Speaker 2: I mean, does Joe Biden know any And I'm not

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Speaker 8: The Left does do this though, and I always find it.

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Speaker 8: for NBC News. Like, you know, group of first graders

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Speaker 8: think there should be a ceasefire too. I don't really

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Speaker 8: care what the first graders think about Israel Palestine. That

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Speaker 8: doesn't actually factor into my consciousness thinking about this. You know,

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Speaker 8: are they gonna.

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Speaker 3: Get kindergarteners to do finger paintings? About how there must

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Speaker 3: be a ceasefire.

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Speaker 2: It is funny, like they managed to get NBC News

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Speaker 2: to write about their letter. So somebody inside the White

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Speaker 2: House thought that the people who actually I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't even know they. I don't think you can mail

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Speaker 2: things to the White House anymore. Back in the day,

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Speaker 2: when you were on Capitol Hill, you were on mail duty,

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Speaker 2: and so you would, you know, cut open every pit

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Speaker 2: of mail and try to organize it and get it

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Speaker 2: to the right places. I mean, that's what I did.

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Speaker 2: And then they had the anthrax scare, and so they

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Speaker 2: basically started running everything through like a different a different mechanism.

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Speaker 2: It took forever to get there. And I don't even

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Speaker 2: know can you send mail to the what you can?

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Speaker 3: Still?

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Speaker 2: Like the male gets delivered to the White House and

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Speaker 2: like they open it in the White House and go

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Speaker 2: through it. That happens. I don't even know the answer.

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Speaker 2: But that's the normal job of an intern was, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you're going to open the mail, put the you know,

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Speaker 2: everybody's opinion in this file, and then you take it

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Speaker 2: to them say this.

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Speaker 3: And this is a whole other thing.

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of internships are are exploitative and

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Speaker 8: a total waste of people's time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm assuming they pay them now right. Most internships

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Speaker 2: used to be unpaid. I think they probably get paid

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Speaker 2: at the White House now right.

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Speaker 3: But this is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: If you're doing an unpaid internship, the way they get

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Speaker 8: around this sometimes is school credit. Look, everything is, everything

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Speaker 8: is specific to this situation. Are you getting school credit,

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Speaker 8: are you getting paid or whatever. But I'm just saying

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Speaker 8: you and I came up in the era. Okay, if

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Speaker 8: you were getting I did an internship at like a

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Speaker 8: A and R like part of a you know studio

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Speaker 8: for what do you recording label? I did internships?

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Speaker 2: You know you were getting paid for any internship that

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Speaker 2: you were on the Washington Institute for Near's policy. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I ever got paid. I don't think I

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Speaker 2: ever got paid for it. I mean I was doing

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Speaker 2: it obviously for the experience. And look, I wouldn't I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't take it back. I was happy to be an intern.

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Speaker 2: But my point on it is you're actually given favorable

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Speaker 2: it happens very often that an intern is necessary. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let we used to do back in the

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Speaker 2: day before, I think they they did it away with it.

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Speaker 2: When I did sports talk radio, for instance, Buck we

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Speaker 2: would take one guy and one girl college you know,

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Speaker 2: juniors or seniors who wanted to be wanted to be

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Speaker 2: in media, and we would let them come and sit

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Speaker 2: in the radio studio. It was nice to have, you know,

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Speaker 2: additional help. But we were doing them more a favor

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Speaker 2: than I think they were doing us a favor. Does

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Speaker 2: that make sense? So that I guarantee you the White

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Speaker 2: House would function fine without interns. So the idea that

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Speaker 2: they're trying to exert political influence and power based on

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Speaker 2: being White House interns is so lappably absurd I can't

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Speaker 2: even hardly get over it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, I think this White House would function

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Speaker 3: So that's the scary part.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what. You don't know right, but you

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Speaker 1: could On the Sunday Hang with Playing Buck podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oomeack in now number three Wednesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: We're talking the debate tonight in Tuscal, Lusa, Alabama. I

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Speaker 2: will give you a prediction, a wager as it were, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I will tell you that I am almost one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent certain that the college football playoff will be referenced

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Speaker 2: because it is taking place in Tuscal Lusa, Alabama. Alabama

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Speaker 2: gets in as the four seed, Florida State left in.

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Speaker 2: Left out is the five seed. I'm sorry to seven

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Speaker 2: old fans out there listening, as well as Georgia Bulldog

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Speaker 2: fans who think that they should not have been left out.

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Speaker 2: I bet that one of the candidates will address it

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Speaker 2: in some way from the stage.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Meghan Kelly knows or cares much about sports.

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Speaker 2: We like Meghan, so I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 2: be the moderator. And I don't know the other two

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Speaker 2: moderators very well. Do you know the other two moderators

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Speaker 2: for this debate?

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Speaker 3: Buck like.

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Speaker 2: Eleana Johnson? Yeah, a little bit, Okay, So I don't

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Speaker 2: know either of them. I would bet that they are

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Speaker 2: not die hard sports fans. Although maybe I'm wrong, but

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Speaker 2: I think we'll get a reference to the college football

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Speaker 2: playoff from the debate stage night. So we got four candidates,

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Speaker 2: they are going to be up on the debate stage.

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Speaker 2: Trump is obviously still leading in a big way as

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Speaker 2: we finished off the last hour. You reference Buck a

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Speaker 2: report that came from a Biden fundraiser, and I am

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Speaker 2: paraphrasing here. Basically, Biden said that if Trump were not running,

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Speaker 2: he probably wouldn't run, but he feels like he has

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Speaker 2: to beat Trump and he's the most likely to beat Trump.

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Speaker 3: And again I'm paraphrasing.

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Speaker 2: So question for you, do you believe Joe Biden at

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Speaker 2: all that if Trump were to say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm out, that Biden would actually say I'm out too.

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Speaker 2: Do you buy this? Do you buy this or you

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Speaker 2: think it's a convenient excuse for Biden to be able

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Speaker 2: to trot out.

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Speaker 8: I think we have him getting asked this. I think

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Speaker 8: this cut seventeen. Would you be running if Trump? I'll

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Speaker 8: answer your question, but would you be running if Trump

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Speaker 8: wasn't running? This cut seventeen?

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Speaker 3: Play I.

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Speaker 5: Expect so, but look he is running.

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Speaker 1: And I just have to run.

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Speaker 8: You no, not now, So play Biden saying I have

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Speaker 8: to run to your point before you asked me.

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Speaker 3: Do I buy this?

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Speaker 8: I do believe, and I get no joy out of

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Speaker 8: saying this. So people that disagree just telling me what

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Speaker 8: my assessment is. Democrats think that Biden's their best shot

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Speaker 8: of beating Trump. And we can look at that right

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Speaker 8: now and say that that's crazy. But it ain't over

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Speaker 8: till it's over, and they, I think, would have to

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Speaker 8: go with a different approach if it had been a

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Speaker 8: different candidate. You know, our side is very convinced that

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Speaker 8: Trump won in twenty twenty by and large, and that

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Speaker 8: he will win again. The Democrats, I can assure you,

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Speaker 8: are very convinced that Trump lost. They think he lost

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Speaker 8: Farren Square in twenty twenty and we'll lose again. That

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Speaker 8: is their perspective on this. Yeah, so I do think

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Speaker 8: that Joe Biden believes that he has the backing of

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Speaker 8: the Democrat machinery, not just because he's president, but because

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Speaker 8: they think in a matchup their best chance to defeat Trump,

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Speaker 8: who certainly looks like the overwhelming prohibitive favor to be

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Speaker 8: the nominee, they think their best shot is Joe Biden. Actually,

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Speaker 8: I actually do believe that that is their assessment. I

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Speaker 8: don't think that that's just that's just bluster at this point.

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Speaker 2: Well, and your point on this is if they are

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Speaker 2: actually confident, and I question how confident they can be.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday because we should mention that

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Speaker 2: they sent out the jury questionnaires on the Washington d C.

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Speaker 3: Trial.

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Speaker 2: I saw our friend Julie Kelly tweet that out yesterday

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Speaker 2: afternoon or evening. If I'm not mistaken to begin the

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Speaker 2: process of trying to corral the future jurors who would

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Speaker 2: sit on the Jan six related case that Jack Smith

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Speaker 2: is bringing. And you argued that Democrats as sort of

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Speaker 2: believe that any conviction of Trump for felony charges is

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Speaker 2: going to destroy his candidacy, and there is polling to

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Speaker 2: reflect that that would be true. Now I'm going against

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Speaker 2: the polling in this respect. I think Democrats have to

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Speaker 2: be getting nervous because I think if you told Democrats

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Speaker 2: a year ago that Trump would be up in all

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Speaker 2: of the swing states, that Trump would be above Biden

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Speaker 2: in many of the national polls that are running, and

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Speaker 2: that Trump even would have the lead that he does

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Speaker 2: in the Republican primary, I think they would have been stunned,

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Speaker 2: and I think they would be super apprehensive about what

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Speaker 2: that foretells for the next eleven months now if they

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Speaker 2: truly do believe that they're going to get a conviction,

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Speaker 2: which if that case goes to trial in DC, I

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Speaker 2: think it's virtually certain that Trump would be convicted of something.

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Speaker 3: Based on the jury pool.

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Speaker 2: I think the question just becomes how much does that

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Speaker 2: court decision alter the trajectory of the race, because I

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Speaker 2: don't think Atlanta and I don't think Miami are going

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Speaker 2: to get finished before we actually have people going out

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Speaker 2: in voting.

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Speaker 8: My guess at this point is still that they believe

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Speaker 8: the legal the legal onslaught or the legal ambush against Trump,

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Speaker 8: whatever you want to call it, trap that they have

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Speaker 8: set for him, will effectively deliver the race to Joe Biden,

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Speaker 8: and then everything else will just be candidate by candidate.

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Speaker 8: They have a tough time in the Senate regardless. So

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Speaker 8: Democrats know they're going to have a tough Senate battle ahead,

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Speaker 8: the House is going to be very very close, likely

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Speaker 8: to be very very close, and they think that they

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Speaker 8: can pull this out because or remember the lesson of

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty two was, Yeah, the j six hearings and

662
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Speaker 8: the fear mongering around abortion didn't convince a lot of people,

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Speaker 8: but it convinced enough people and enough places that they

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Speaker 8: should vote for the Democrat. And that's something that I

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Speaker 8: think we have to keep in mind here that based

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Speaker 8: on the way that the two sides get dug in

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Speaker 8: and the narrowness of the deciding factors, if you can

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Speaker 8: figure out effectively what lock and what key you need,

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Speaker 8: and you can just get that one last tranche of

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Speaker 8: voters across the line in one of the states or

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Speaker 8: a handful of states that matters.

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Speaker 3: That's what will be determined.

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Speaker 8: So I am concerned about that because every poll people

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Speaker 8: are now looking all the poles saying, look at how

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Speaker 8: bad Biden is, Look how much Trump is winning.

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Speaker 3: I say, that's great.

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Speaker 8: We should probably see more polls on what happens if

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Speaker 8: Trump gets convicted in one of these trials. Because the

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Speaker 8: one pole that we've seen on it, I think it

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Speaker 8: was a Siena pole.

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Speaker 7: Am I right on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember.

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Speaker 2: I think it was was in a New York Times, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right, I mean it was in recent history. It

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Speaker 2: said that everything would flip basically if Trump were convicted

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Speaker 2: of a felony.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that Trump loses every swing state if he's convicted

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Speaker 3: of a felony.

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Speaker 8: You and I agree that. I don't believe that, but

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Speaker 8: I would like to see more data. Yeah, because if

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Speaker 8: that is true, the GOP is walking into a massive trap.

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Speaker 8: If that is true.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that is again, if you're Biden's team, that

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Speaker 2: has to be what they think. The ACE in the

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Speaker 2: hole is I would just point out, I don't think

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Speaker 2: they ever thought they would be down like they're down

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Speaker 2: eleven months out. I want to play you this cut.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned it, I think earlier in the program for

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Speaker 2: end of the show. Riley gaines. She works it out kick.

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Speaker 2: She's great, especially when you consider that she's twenty three

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Speaker 2: years old. I think to have stepped into a political

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Speaker 2: firestorm like she has and to have handled it so well.

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Speaker 2: Her husband, Louis, by the way, is also fantastic. I

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Speaker 2: think I've mentioned this before. Only guy I've ever met

705
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Speaker 2: who has a totally mixed English.

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Speaker 3: And Southern accent. So he's from England. He's a swimmer.

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Speaker 2: He came to swim at the University of Kentucky, which

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Speaker 2: is where Riley met him, and he now lives in

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Speaker 2: the Nashville area, where Riley grew up and where I

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Speaker 2: live Buck. When you talk to him, he is fifty

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Speaker 2: percent English accent fifty percent Southern accent. It's one of

712
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Speaker 2: the most amazing combos I have ever seen. He's an

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Speaker 2: awesome dude. Riley was testifying in front of on Capitol

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Speaker 2: Hill in front of a congressional committee analyzing this ridiculousness

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Speaker 2: of men competing as women, and she was called by

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Speaker 2: Summer Lee, who who? I believe buck is a congresswoman

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Speaker 2: from a very competitive Pennsylvania Pittsburgh area district. Maybe a

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Speaker 2: team can confirm that that's true. Potentially a toss up

719
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Speaker 2: style seat. I think I'm correcting that she's a Democrat

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Speaker 2: from Pennsylvania for sure.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Summer Lee said that Riley Gaines was transphobic, so Riley

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Speaker 2: decided to push back, and she said, Okay, if you're

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Speaker 2: gonna call me a transphobe, then I'm gonna call you

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Speaker 2: a misogynist. And it just throws the entire Uh. You

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Speaker 2: need to see the video, but I think it'll play

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Speaker 2: well on audio two. It throws the entire hearing into

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Speaker 2: an uproar.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 6: Inclusion cannot be prioritized over safety and fairness, and Ranking

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Speaker 6: Member Lee, if my testimony makes me transphobic, then I

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Speaker 6: believe your opening monologue makes you a misogynist. Thank you,

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Speaker 6: Uh mentaire, excuse me.

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Speaker 9: I moved to have the gentle woman's words taken down.

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Speaker 2: The committee will suspend manam she's.

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Speaker 3: In gay personalities?

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Speaker 6: Can I just ask how it's fair to be called transphobic.

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Speaker 8: There's a thing I would say, men disguising themselves as

739
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Speaker 8: women are engaging in personalities order and hand hand order order.

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Speaker 8: Let's let's get a ruling that cheer.

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Speaker 3: I'm move to draw the punt of order.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, miss Lee.

743
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Speaker 2: So I don't know buck exactly what she she wanted to.

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Speaker 2: The general rule is that you are not allowed to

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Speaker 2: insult people at congressional hearings. So she called Riley Gaines

746
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Speaker 2: a transphobe. And then Riley Gaines said, well, wait a minute,

747
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Speaker 2: if you can call me transphobic, I'm gonna call you

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Speaker 2: a misogynist. And then it was like she was looking up.

749
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Speaker 2: You can see the video, like her staffers all come

750
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Speaker 2: together around and they're they're reviewing whether or not this

751
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Speaker 2: is a permissible or impermissible and then finally she withdraws

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Speaker 2: her motion. So I would love to know exactly what

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00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: happened there, but to me, it perfectly distills sort of

754
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: this name calling era where if you come back and

755
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Speaker 2: actually give them some of their own medicine, their arguments

756
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Speaker 2: collapse in a hurry.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, props.

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Speaker 8: Also, whether it's islamo phobia or transphobia, the Left does

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Speaker 8: this thing of the phobias.

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Speaker 3: All the time.

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Speaker 8: I don't have an irrational fear, nor do these other

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Speaker 8: people that are all on the conservative side of this.

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Speaker 8: I don't have an irrational fear of any of this.

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Speaker 8: Uh So, phobia is just the wrong suffix for the situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I just don't think that you know a guy with

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Speaker 8: you know, male genitalia and testosterone. I mean, it's very

767
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Speaker 8: obvious play against women and women's sports. The notion that

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Speaker 8: that makes me afraid, I'm not afraid. There's no fear

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Speaker 8: here to see what I'm saying. And this is the

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Speaker 8: term they always use, like you're trusted point toobic. No,

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Speaker 8: I'm not scared of these people. I think a lot

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Speaker 8: of them need help. Actually, I think a lot of

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Speaker 8: them need mental health and counseling. But there's no part

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Speaker 8: of me goes, oh my gosh, I'm scared. I'm definitely

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Speaker 8: not scared. Nor is Riley getting scared of the transagenda.

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Speaker 8: I don't agree with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point because if you, let's say

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Speaker 2: you're coach league like I have done, if somebody tries

779
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Speaker 2: to bring a sixteen year old out to pitch at

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Speaker 2: a twelve year old baseball game. I'm not age phobic. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the sixteen year old. The sixteen

782
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Speaker 2: year old just doesn't fit the rules. He shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: able to compete against twelve year olds. It's not age phobia. Well,

784
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Speaker 2: it's well said, and I think it's it again. Ties

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Speaker 2: in with they don't actually engage in arguments. They try

786
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Speaker 2: to engage in attacks, which scare people from actually engaging

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Speaker 2: in the marketplace of ideas and actually putting forth their opinions.

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Speaker 2: Which is why I think Riley has been so effective

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Speaker 2: and why I think she's so brave in general, for

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Speaker 2: the way that she's handled all this.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, and you know, you know, my friends, you

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Speaker 2: of you.

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Speaker 3: Hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: We got to meet Malik who is doing incredible work

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Speaker 2: in the capitalist business space as it pertains to not

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Speaker 2: I think you're a lot like me in that you're

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Speaker 2: watch a superhero movie and it would like Marvel all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden has to have you know, trans superheroes

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Speaker 3: I mean I just I don't know how we ever

844
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Speaker 3: ended up here.

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Speaker 5: Well, a lot of it is is actually you got

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Speaker 5: to follow the money, just like when we find ourselves

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Speaker 5: in the Twilight Zone. Why are we in the Twilight Zone? Yeah,

848
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Speaker 5: As it relates to the movies, though, I like to

849
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Speaker 5: ask the question, in the last twenty years, when's the

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Speaker 5: last movie you saw that was negative about China or

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Speaker 5: the CCP. We make movies to sell to them, and

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Speaker 5: then we take out all that transgender stuff and then

853
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Speaker 5: they bring TikTok over backgrounds need to expose. But you're

854
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Speaker 5: absolutely right. I mean, I've just gotten sick of it.

855
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Speaker 5: I'm a parent now, and for people like us who

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Speaker 5: have the ability, whether you guys in media or me

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Speaker 5: and finance, don't do something about it, How we're going

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Speaker 5: to look our kids in the eyes and say that

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Speaker 5: we didn't stop this because look, you know you guys

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Speaker 5: are passionate about this too. COVID radicalized me. I mean

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Speaker 5: what I saw there, the lies and censorship. I mean

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Speaker 5: I moved from New York to Florida for freedom, and

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Speaker 5: I started really seeing why federalism matters. You know, you

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Speaker 5: have different economic and political systems New York and California,

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Speaker 5: the failed model versus you know, Texas or Florida. But

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Speaker 5: then what I started seeing was the battlefields not just

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Speaker 5: around policy. It's going to be about economics. That's how

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Speaker 5: they get us with social credit scores, because the government

869
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Speaker 5: uses big tech companies and other big companies to control us.

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Speaker 5: That wasn't going to let that happen. So my mission

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Speaker 5: now is to finance these companies that are going to

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Speaker 5: keep us free.

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Speaker 8: Well, Meads Buck, good to have you with us, and

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Speaker 8: I wanted you to take this opportunity. Just tell all

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Speaker 8: the folks listening across the country about where some of

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Speaker 8: the places are that we're already building. You know, they're

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Speaker 8: familiar with, you know, Rumble for example, the Fromil with

878
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Speaker 8: truth Social But give us kind of an update on

879
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Speaker 8: how the parallel and really just the truly capitalist economy

880
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Speaker 8: and the conservative values accepted economy is going at this point,

881
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Speaker 8: Like where are we racking up some progress and some momentum.

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Speaker 5: The first thing is it's the top of the first right,

883
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Speaker 5: We are just getting started here. ESG started becoming a

884
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Speaker 5: phrase in twenty ten and has become a multi trillion

885
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 5: dollar scam. Okay, it also destroys economic value, but it's

886
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Speaker 5: really used in order to control us. As I was saying,

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Speaker 5: as it relates to this parallel economy that you referenced,

888
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Speaker 5: we call it the EIG economy, so we mean entrepreneurship,

889
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: innovation and growth. And yes we have our own acronym

890
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 5: against ESG, it's EIG. This ecosystem basically has three buckets

891
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Speaker 5: that we invest in through our fund, seventeen eighty nine Capital,

892
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Speaker 5: which is the vehicle that gave Tucker Carlson his money

893
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Speaker 5: to get his new company started up. The spoken about

894
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Speaker 5: the first bucket is exactly what you're saying, buck it's

895
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Speaker 5: the replication businesses. You have an existing company that's co

896
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Speaker 5: opted or has gone totally woke, and we need a

897
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Speaker 5: response to that. So yes you have Rumble, which is

898
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Speaker 5: a response to YouTube Black Rifle, copy of response to Starbucks,

899
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Speaker 5: the company we took public, Public Square that I now

900
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Speaker 5: sit on the board of which is a response to Amazon.

901
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Speaker 5: But that's going to continue at every part of our economy.

902
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Speaker 5: We need our own payment processors. When you see PayPal

903
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Speaker 5: finding people for what they determine is misinformation, we need

904
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Speaker 5: our own banks. When you see the truckers up in Canada,

905
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Speaker 5: lose their bank accounts because they want to protest these

906
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Speaker 5: unnecessary vaccine mandates right or asset managers like the veck

907
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Speaker 5: was doing with Strive. So that's the replication economy. We're

908
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Speaker 5: going to need to make sure that we're insulated so

909
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Speaker 5: we cannot get canceled in the private sector so they

910
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Speaker 5: deperson us. So all that stuff has to happen. And

911
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Speaker 5: that's all areas that we're investing in and to help

912
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Speaker 5: companies like publish, Squareco Public or Tucker which is a

913
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Speaker 5: response to cable news. The second bucket of EIG is

914
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Speaker 5: how do we enhance American prosperity. How are we investing

915
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Speaker 5: in like defense tech. We've already made an investment in

916
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Speaker 5: a company called Firehawk in Texas. They develop rocket fuel

917
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Speaker 5: cheaper than the competitors for missiles. How are we investing

918
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Speaker 5: in things that are going to onshore manufacturing. Don't continue

919
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Speaker 5: to make us totally dependent and get all our stuff

920
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Speaker 5: from China, who's our enemy. And then finally bucket three,

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of great companies out there that ESG

922
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Speaker 5: has ruined because the ESG overloads tell us we're not

923
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Speaker 5: gonna give them any money because they're bad. I'm thinking

924
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Speaker 5: things in fossil fuels, ammunition guns. I'm going to go

925
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Speaker 5: invest in those companies because they're great businesses that have

926
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Speaker 5: really good financial profiles, but they can't even get a

927
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Speaker 5: loan from a bank. Those are the three buckets we're

928
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Speaker 5: going to play in in what we call EIG, which

929
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Speaker 5: is going to fight back against ESG.

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything you're doing, and I think this

931
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Speaker 2: is really really important, and I think increasingly our audience

932
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Speaker 2: wants to be able to spend money with companies that

933
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Speaker 2: respect them. It's one thing if these companies decided, hey,

934
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Speaker 2: we're going to spend money across the entire political spectrum

935
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Speaker 2: and we want every Republican, we want every Democrat, we

936
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Speaker 2: want everybody to be buying our products. They're not doing that.

937
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Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? Ultimately because everything you're

938
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Speaker 2: saying I agree with. I think it does create instead

939
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Speaker 2: of being angry about it. I think the best way

940
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Speaker 2: to deal with anger. I did it when I started

941
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Speaker 2: my company OutKick, is to actually create an alternative right,

942
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Speaker 2: go out and use entrepreneurial spirit to take advantage of

943
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Speaker 2: marketplace opportunities. But why do you think this marketplace opportunity exists.

944
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Speaker 2: Why do you think I'm just throwing you know, Disney?

945
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Speaker 2: Why would Disney not be trying to appeal to every parent,

946
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Speaker 2: regardless of what their politics are. That feels like the

947
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Speaker 2: Disney that I grew up with, or Coke or bud Light.

948
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Speaker 3: Why do you think they're making these choices?

949
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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's several reasons. I mean, one is

950
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Speaker 5: just like an economic thing. Let's use The New York

951
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Speaker 5: Times for example. Did it always kind of lean slightly left? Yes,

952
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Speaker 5: but we're around the same age. It wasn't like it

953
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Speaker 5: is today in the nineties or even in the two thousands. Right.

954
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Speaker 5: The reason why The New York Times is not even

955
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Speaker 5: readable anymore is because it moved from an advertising general

956
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Speaker 5: model to a subscription based model. So the majority of

957
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Speaker 5: the revenue of The New York Times or any of

958
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Speaker 5: these outlets that are supposedly news now is based on subscribers.

959
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Speaker 5: And what that needs is we lend ourselves to the

960
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Speaker 5: red meat of who our purchases are, who's paying that

961
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Speaker 5: eight to ninety nine a month, And so they're only

962
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Speaker 5: appealing to Brooklyn and the West Coast for the people

963
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Speaker 5: who are their subscribers. That's where they get all the

964
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Speaker 5: revenue from and now The New York Times is actually

965
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 5: wants to be, by their own admission, in entertainment business. Right,

966
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Speaker 5: They're not really reporting news. They're trying to give the

967
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Speaker 5: type of content that there's sobscribers want. So that's how

968
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Speaker 5: you start to see the problem. And then also you

969
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Speaker 5: end up having what we have now, which is this

970
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 5: tyranny of the minority, which is these crazy movements that

971
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Speaker 5: have really sprouted up basically that coincide to the election

972
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Speaker 5: of Donald Trump. Now it's extremely nefarious why all of

973
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Speaker 5: these things have started happening. What I believe to be

974
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Speaker 5: the case is that around twenty fifteen you had two

975
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Speaker 5: populous movements taking place on both the left and the right.

976
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Speaker 5: And you remember it was Bernie Sanders who they stole

977
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Speaker 5: the election from through the DNC on one side, and

978
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Speaker 5: of course Donald Trump on the other side. I think

979
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Speaker 5: that freaked the hell out of the establishment, the oligarchs,

980
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call them, but we know who

981
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 5: they are. And I believe that is been promoted by

982
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 5: the media and other propaganda tools at the behest of

983
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 5: the government and the establishment to try to divide us.

984
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 5: And it's going on throughout all of human history. My

985
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 5: family's from the Middle East. I know a lot about

986
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 5: sectarian violence that's being done by the hands of the

987
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: people who are in charge to get other people to

988
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 5: fight each other. That's why they want men and women

989
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: to hate each other, blacks and whites to hate each other.

990
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 5: And you've really seen this big fueled really since the

991
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 5: election of Trump, and it's all for a particular purpose.

992
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: And so that then lends itself even further to the

993
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 5: economic decisions about some of the companies you're referencing. Sorry

994
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 5: that this is so complicated, but it really is this

995
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 5: nefarious and detailed, because otherwise, to your point, it's all logical.

996
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 5: Then asset managers, controlled by only three entities that control

997
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: all these large public companies, whether it's Black Rock Vanguard,

998
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 5: then also have their own agendas. And then they take

999
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 5: the state pension money, which is only recently, as you

1000
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 5: guys know, with Florida and others starting to divest from it,

1001
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 5: and then they control the economic decisions on the boards

1002
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 5: of these large companies. So that's kind of a very

1003
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 5: very brief synopsis of where this comes from, how it's

1004
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 5: economically motivated, and yeah, it's totally different from how we

1005
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 5: grew up with Michael Jordan's as he doesn't talk about

1006
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 5: politics because Republicans buy sneakers too. I've quantified the opportunity

1007
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 5: here for you guys, though. Right at the outset when

1008
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 5: I started doing this, I just looked at, Okay, just

1009
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 5: the people that voted for Donald Trump. That's seventy three

1010
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: million people. And the brooking is who told me that

1011
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 5: that's thirty percent of American GDP. So that's like the

1012
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 5: lowest amount of money. That's seven trillion dollars of GDP

1013
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: that we all know are pissed off being ignored and

1014
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 5: alienated by these big companies that would be the third

1015
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 5: largest economy in the world. So you better believe I'm

1016
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 5: going to do everything I can to be the financier

1017
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 5: for these people because I don't care that it's only

1018
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 5: thirty percent of GDP. It's still the third largest economy

1019
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 5: in the world, and they're ready to stop giving their

1020
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 5: money people to hate them. The last thing I'll say

1021
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 5: is a perfect example of what you're referencing. Salesforce. You know,

1022
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 5: the CRM that pretty much every business uses. It's owned

1023
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 5: by a guy named Mark Benioff who owns now Time

1024
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 5: magazine and he's the guy that funded eag in Carol's

1025
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 5: lawsuit against Donald Trump. So every time people buy one

1026
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 5: of these products or use these things that they think

1027
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 5: are innocuous, you are literally funding not just people that

1028
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 5: don't like you, who take your money and then try

1029
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 5: to hurt you and hurt the people that you want

1030
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 5: in power. That's how serious this is. So it's not

1031
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 5: about boycotts. That's not effective. You have to then create businesses,

1032
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 5: services and products for people to be positive so we

1033
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 5: can actually effectuate change. And that's literally as American as

1034
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 5: apple pie. Because it's capitalism. We need to give people choices.

1035
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Speaker 8: Oh, Mead Maleigue, founder of seventeen eighty non capital OMI,

1036
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 8: we're gonna have to have you to come back and

1037
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 8: update this on how the parallel economy and true capitalism

1038
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 8: is working over time and talk to you about the

1039
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Speaker 8: economy and the election here too.

1040
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 3: So thanks for making the time for us today. We'll

1041
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: talk to you soon.

1042
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Speaker 5: Absolutely really appreciate connecting with you guys, and thanks for

1043
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 5: all that you do.

1044
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.

1045
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Speaker 8: And you know, we love bringing word about new companies

1046
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Speaker 8: to people, especially new companies that can save you money.

1047
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 8: And you know the Biden administration is telling you that

1048
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 8: the economy is just fine.

1049
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: But you know that's not.

1050
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Speaker 8: True because you buy groceries, you're putting gas in your car,

1051
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 8: you're going out to a restaurant in your neighborhood, and

1052
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 8: what are you seeing high prices? But I'm not just

1053
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1054
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1055
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1056
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1057
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Speaker 8: food and gas. So why not give it a shot.

1058
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1059
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Speaker 3: She loves it.

1060
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1061
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1062
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1063
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1064
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