Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola. That is Everson Walls, but that is not
Speaker 1: Bill Jones, who's away on assignment. Nate Newton once again
Speaker 1: coming out of the bullpen to help out on Mitch
Speaker 1: shots and dressed for the occasion, big nude. What's up? Man?
Speaker 1: Just glad to be here with you guys. Man this
Speaker 1: you know, to work with pure relics to where I
Speaker 1: mean old excuse me, young and gentlemen like y'all is
Speaker 1: a great thing. Hey, hold on, black Santa, come on, Oh,
Speaker 1: I just want to know, did you buy that sweater? No,
Speaker 1: they give them to us every year, shandom make sure
Speaker 1: we have them and make sure you wear it too.
Speaker 1: I see, yeah, well we wear them man like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I keep my tax so I can turn it in
Speaker 1: up to that's what. And Everson, you have the bed man?
Speaker 1: You look look good the build. I like the build. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm good. You ignore Mick he said, you
Speaker 1: have on a hoodie? Yeah, I got on my fifty
Speaker 1: one fifty. This is George Lopez and this boy as
Speaker 1: they kind of uh do this little thing here. My
Speaker 1: cousin kind of deals with him a little bit. He's
Speaker 1: called the People's Choice, so they just mailed this to me.
Speaker 1: It's brand new. I took off my tag though, Nate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm keep in mind that a nineteen sixty five helmet
Speaker 1: behind you that you gotta wait wait, is that a
Speaker 1: void behind you that you have behind you? Some mess?
Speaker 1: My wife. I think it's a picture the moon. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: I think the ugliest thing in the man. I said, Babe,
Speaker 1: this ram going to show the world that you are
Speaker 1: not interior decorator. So so it looks like I've got
Speaker 1: my NFL shirt out. I'm the only one that bought
Speaker 1: the shirt we're wearing today. By the way, yes you are, Mick.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, good to have you guys with me today.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Bill had his duties with CBS eleven,
Speaker 1: so he couldn't be with us for this final show
Speaker 1: of the year. As thank god, we're turning the calendar
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one tomorrow with the Cowboys still in
Speaker 1: this NFC East race with one game to go, and
Speaker 1: as we've been talking about, uh, the the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: to win. They got to beat the Giants, and they
Speaker 1: need Philadelphia to beat the Redskins. And the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: busy today not beat the Washington football team. You can't
Speaker 1: get me to go along with you today on my
Speaker 1: own show. Well, I was the first time I've done
Speaker 1: that in ages. May. He only does that when you're
Speaker 1: around Okay, I think you're nervous, man. He does it
Speaker 1: right every time. That's the first time he's ever said that. No, Actually,
Speaker 1: I get too comfortable when I'm around Nate, right, I
Speaker 1: just kind of let my hair out. Yeah, he brings
Speaker 1: out the worst today. I think maybe sometimes Nathan Ie fags.
Speaker 1: We are the We are the optimists. We are the
Speaker 1: most optimistic Cowboy fans as as as former players. I
Speaker 1: don't know about if Nate's changed his style, but minus
Speaker 1: still the same. I never pick against the Cowboys, no
Speaker 1: matter how bleak the situation. So thank you we have
Speaker 1: that in common. Guess we don't have to spend that
Speaker 1: last segment then making picks because I know what your
Speaker 1: gates are doing. Yeah, yeah, just just to pick the click,
Speaker 1: not about who's gonna win, just to click. Hey, let
Speaker 1: me let me give everybody a little bit of a
Speaker 1: practice update from today, since it was pouring down rain
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys did practice indoors, which means the media
Speaker 1: was not allowed to watch, so myself and Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: were the pool reporters keeping an eye on the portion
Speaker 1: of practice that we were able to see. And I
Speaker 1: can tell you that Ezekiel Elliott, who practiced fully yesterday
Speaker 1: and was off the injury list, opened up the first
Speaker 1: portion of practice working on the resistant chords. But he
Speaker 1: looks like he's ready to go, so that's a good sign.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy seemed very confident that he would be good
Speaker 1: to go. Also, a Xavier Woods and Chitabey Awoozier both
Speaker 1: limited yesterday. They look good to me. If I was
Speaker 1: a betting man, I'd say they're eighty ninety percent ready
Speaker 1: to go. On Sunday. They were moving well in the
Speaker 1: drills we got to watch. I would imagine yesterday they
Speaker 1: were limited because they just didn't want to overdo it
Speaker 1: in practice, but they looked good to go. Not practicing still.
Speaker 1: Darren Thompson in concussion protocol. I don't think he makes
Speaker 1: it back in time for the game. Uh Nora will
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderish with a high ankle sprain. I would imagine
Speaker 1: he's a week or two away from even thinking about
Speaker 1: playing again. And Donovan Wilson, who we reported yesterday on
Speaker 1: this show that he was not at practice. He wasn't
Speaker 1: there because of an illness, and he's not there again today.
Speaker 1: So you hope that whatever he has clears up in
Speaker 1: time for the game. And Rashad Robinson, who's been having
Speaker 1: I believe it was a knee problem. I don't. He's
Speaker 1: not there, he's not going to practice, yes, Nate, you
Speaker 1: said don You said Donovan Wilson. Yeah, Wilson, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was ill, Yes, and he was ill again today. Go
Speaker 1: to work, Nick, if one guy we need on the
Speaker 1: defenses him, Okay, so find out before the show over
Speaker 1: with please Donovan Wilson you perk may use. That felt
Speaker 1: like a German show but almost a Yeah. Now, Donovan
Speaker 1: had the growing problem yesterday. We talked about growing yesterday.
Speaker 1: Rights facts. Yeah, but they listened. They listened, and they
Speaker 1: listed it as an illness because the groin was what
Speaker 1: bothered him why he missed the pre the two games ago.
Speaker 1: But they had listened with an illness. So to me,
Speaker 1: that's encouraging because whatever you have, you can take something
Speaker 1: maybe and you just rest now and get back out there.
Speaker 1: So uh, for Ninja standpoint, you know they were indoors
Speaker 1: And here's one thing, and I bet you guys will
Speaker 1: like this. Uh, they opened up the garage doors on
Speaker 1: the I think it's the east end of the Ford Center,
Speaker 1: so they would get some cold air in there for practice,
Speaker 1: maybe to simulate working at the Middle Lands on Sunday
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Well, now what they have to
Speaker 1: do then is to actually kick a field goal while
Speaker 1: those doors. Yeah, right, and worked, didn't That how it
Speaker 1: worked in Jersey? That's that's what I always heard. I
Speaker 1: was there. I didn't know protocol, but I know that
Speaker 1: even with the Cowboys, and when I left the Giants,
Speaker 1: they talked about opening up the breezeway and therefore the
Speaker 1: kicks will go a ride. So that's something that we
Speaker 1: need to practice. But I wanted to ask Nate what
Speaker 1: you like about Donovan Wilson man talk to his energy,
Speaker 1: his ability to come up and hit people, you know,
Speaker 1: like I know ever since when y'all played great Ball
Speaker 1: as corners, you you and went fellows, when y'all were
Speaker 1: playing nicest corners, y'all knew y'all Satans was lights out
Speaker 1: with Michael Downs And I think and see, for the
Speaker 1: life of me, and I keep trying to and I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: I know, this kid maybe not a premial starter in
Speaker 1: our league, but I hope he is that glue. That's okay.
Speaker 1: At least we got to thumper back the striking. I
Speaker 1: gotta when you come across that middle. Now, he's got
Speaker 1: to be a little bit smarter with you know, with
Speaker 1: some of his shots, to keep his head up, put
Speaker 1: his shoulder in a little bit more. But we this
Speaker 1: is what we've been missing, a kid that will help
Speaker 1: us get turnovers. This this kid's a striker man and
Speaker 1: he and he to me, he's valuable. Now to somebody else,
Speaker 1: he may be just another guy, but to me, he's
Speaker 1: a valuable guy because he brings energy. He I mean he,
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that man. When the last time
Speaker 1: we had a guy excited that's doing something, not excited,
Speaker 1: that's just running around excited and doing you see, that's
Speaker 1: the different thing. That's a huge difference. He knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing back there. He's approach to the ball is precise.
Speaker 1: I don't want somebody back there who's got great intentions.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, but he goes out there and he misses.
Speaker 1: Everything comes up at the wrong angle. You know, we're
Speaker 1: turning the fifteen yard en route to a sixty yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: See there's the kind of thing stop cut this guy.
Speaker 1: You know. My thoughts on Donovan Wilson as he couldn't
Speaker 1: be the second coming of drive by right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But I know what I liked about him, not just
Speaker 1: his attack attacking style Nate. I liked the way he
Speaker 1: got that football the other day. He cut the wide
Speaker 1: receiver off to make that play. If he doesn't cut
Speaker 1: in there at the right time, that tight end has
Speaker 1: a chance to catch that ball. That was a very
Speaker 1: timely interception for us, and to me, it's kind of
Speaker 1: shows the other kids and the other safeties especially, this
Speaker 1: is how you attack a ball. Next thing, you though,
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown's got two and all of a sudden we're
Speaker 1: a prolific secondary. So that's what I'm talking about. The
Speaker 1: team that is so nice about this. You know, I've
Speaker 1: had people say, well, it ain't against the top flight quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 1: I grant you all of that, but whether it was
Speaker 1: top flight or not top flight four games ago, when
Speaker 1: nobody getting interception, that's right there. There was no fight.
Speaker 1: You have to start somewhere. Yeah, you have to start
Speaker 1: somewhere and That's why I give these cowboys a fighting
Speaker 1: chance to be successful, because they're they're enthusiastic about it. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how we're not even talking about the defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: because that's all we could talk about for the first
Speaker 1: up until four weeks ago. Now it's about the football players. Now,
Speaker 1: the coaches are getting the chance to see, Okay, he's
Speaker 1: a starter, he's not a starter. If I can get
Speaker 1: him twenty five plays, if we can bring it, they
Speaker 1: know when this off season comes, they would know their
Speaker 1: team ever since Mickey. They would know their team, you know,
Speaker 1: and this is gonna be and this is gonna be significant.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be significant since we're talking about the defense
Speaker 1: because the Giants have been struggling over the last month
Speaker 1: scoring points. Uh you know, last games they haven't scored
Speaker 1: any more than nineteen points. And during their three game
Speaker 1: losing streak they've scored seven, six, and thirteen. So they've struggled.
Speaker 1: So this defense, yeah, they need to step up and
Speaker 1: make sure that all of a sudden they don't have
Speaker 1: some renaissance and start scoring points. This defense has to
Speaker 1: play that well to give this team a chance to
Speaker 1: go up there and win a game that not only
Speaker 1: that they need to win, they should win, no matter
Speaker 1: sitting there at six and nine, whatever the record is,
Speaker 1: that's a team that they should beat if indeed they
Speaker 1: want to earn a spot in these playoffs. And you know,
Speaker 1: go ahead, and they go ahead. Ask you a question
Speaker 1: to mek A question I got into a little difficulties
Speaker 1: with my last gentleman on our show. Do you look
Speaker 1: at this team as just an average team? On some
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys are a good team. I think
Speaker 1: they're a good team team because now they're beating the
Speaker 1: average teams and I think they're just a good team.
Speaker 1: And they're not a great team by no needs, But
Speaker 1: I think they're a good team because the holes are
Speaker 1: not as big. To me, they're still defensive holes that
Speaker 1: need to be filled, but they're not as as massive
Speaker 1: as I first stopped up until four weeks ago. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts ever since? Mickey? I want to just
Speaker 1: get some different opinions. Go ahead, Okay, Well I will, okay,
Speaker 1: because you know what, you know what the thing I
Speaker 1: want to say, go ahead, Here's I wanted to say. Fact,
Speaker 1: when you don't when you don't talk about your defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: That's when you know you're bawling, right, Natan. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you when you keep When Mike Nolan's name is not
Speaker 1: mentioned for the last four weeks or so, that means
Speaker 1: something good is going down and we're not looking for
Speaker 1: a scapegoat. Okay, And as far as I'm concerned about
Speaker 1: this team, this team is a good team. And the
Speaker 1: reason it's a good team now is because the defense
Speaker 1: came to the table right. Offensively, we all has had
Speaker 1: some type of production, but we always need the defense
Speaker 1: to answer for us, to be that that support for
Speaker 1: us offensively. And if you're talking about an entire team, Nate,
Speaker 1: this is what I tell Spags and the guys all
Speaker 1: the time. You gotta be good and all fastest of
Speaker 1: the game, that special teams as well, And I think
Speaker 1: we have a very good special teams with Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: back there. I'm looking for this guy to break one
Speaker 1: real soon. I'm talking about to the house because the
Speaker 1: special teams is right for making for continuing to make
Speaker 1: big plays for us. So I think when you're looking
Speaker 1: at all fastests, like you said, just a good team,
Speaker 1: not a great team yet. But I'll take that good
Speaker 1: team when that entire units together. They're all thinking together,
Speaker 1: and no matter who fails or who doesn't make or play,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna cover your butt. That's the kind that's a
Speaker 1: team right there. See. And I think that what happens is,
Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to diminish what they've done in
Speaker 1: this three game winning streak because of who they've beaten.
Speaker 1: You can only beat who they tell you to play, right,
Speaker 1: and they beat teams that were kind of their own ill,
Speaker 1: which they should have done what a good team would do.
Speaker 1: But I also wanted to point out that since the
Speaker 1: Cowboys beat Cincinnati, they ended up beating Pittsburgh and Houston.
Speaker 1: Since the Cowboys beat San Francisco, they beat Arizona. Now
Speaker 1: the Eagles will see what happens this week. But during
Speaker 1: their losing streak here, I believe they've lost six of
Speaker 1: the last seven. Their one win was against the Saints.
Speaker 1: So these teams have kind of showed that they can
Speaker 1: win some games. But you beat them and that's all
Speaker 1: that counts. And you scored thirty points in each one
Speaker 1: of these games and came away with ten takeaways. Those
Speaker 1: are the things you should be doing against the team
Speaker 1: that you don't think is very good or everybody else
Speaker 1: doesn't think it's very good. So I'm sort of with this,
Speaker 1: you know. And Andy Dalton said it last week after
Speaker 1: the game, you know, say they get into the playoffs
Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna go like, oh, they're seven and nine,
Speaker 1: They're in the playoffs. Whatever you did before doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It only matters now going forward. And thank god it's
Speaker 1: a new year. Maybe something's changing that once we get
Speaker 1: past today, that twenty twenty one will be much kinder,
Speaker 1: uh than twenty twenty has been, uh, not only to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys but basically to the all of us. Right, yes, right, hey,
Speaker 1: hey did you have did you see how new quarterback?
Speaker 1: Did you see how new quarterback? From from from the
Speaker 1: Grease production Andy Dalton and Dalton? Did you see it? Is?
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, funds, let it go, Funds And really,
Speaker 1: all the all the all the all the jel in
Speaker 1: the world wouldn't even when I had here, wouldn't let
Speaker 1: my hair stand up? He has he him with Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson locker room because he was ready for that interview.
Speaker 1: You know what. You know, from a style standpoint, Dalton
Speaker 1: might have him, right, might have Jimmy yeah, yeah, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Jimmy was perfect too, man. And see himmy walls got
Speaker 1: into that fistisope welcome? No non till he came out
Speaker 1: of the until he came out of the shower trying
Speaker 1: to find out what I said to the media. That's
Speaker 1: that's the Jimmy hairstyle. That was all messed up. He
Speaker 1: still had soap in his hair. All right, you guys
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Speaker 1: with Mick shots, Everson Walls, Nate Newton, myself, Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 1: and I promised you a story, and I want to
Speaker 1: take you guys back thirty years ago today and I
Speaker 1: want to say that Nate Newton and I were celebrating
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve in the exact same place, Cowboys Cafe,
Speaker 1: December nineteen ninety and it was the final game of
Speaker 1: the NFL season, the Saints and the Rams, and we
Speaker 1: were watching the that game because the by the way
Speaker 1: seven and nine Cowboys had an opportunity to go into
Speaker 1: the playoffs if the Rams beat the Saints that night
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. And the Cowboys players, a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: probably a dozen or so, all met at Cowboys Cafe
Speaker 1: to watch the game that night, And I want to
Speaker 1: set the scene for you because that was before they
Speaker 1: expanded the cafe, and there was over a hundred people
Speaker 1: in there. Along with ABC, which was televising the Monday
Speaker 1: night game at that time, sent a TV crew there
Speaker 1: to be able to interview these guys and get their
Speaker 1: reaction during the game. So here's what happened. And Nate,
Speaker 1: you'll remember this better than probably myself. But the Cowboys
Speaker 1: started the season off three and seven, very similar to
Speaker 1: this year, and went on a four game winning streak
Speaker 1: to get to seven and seven, and because they had
Speaker 1: beaten the Saints early in December, all they had to
Speaker 1: do was win one of the last two games, either
Speaker 1: beat Philadelphia or beat uh Atlanta, and they were going
Speaker 1: to the playoffs at eight and eight. Well, first quarter
Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia game, Troy separates his shoulder that incomes
Speaker 1: Babe Laufenberg and unfortunately, the offense didn't function too well,
Speaker 1: so the Cowboys lose. The offense didn't function well. The
Speaker 1: offense did well, that's nice, Babe. Babes numbers worked great,
Speaker 1: So they lose that game, but still they had a
Speaker 1: chance to go to Atlanta, and had they beaten the
Speaker 1: Falcons in the final game of the season and finished
Speaker 1: eight and eight, they're going to the playoffs as the
Speaker 1: third wild card team. Well, it's raining in Atlanta, right, Nate.
Speaker 1: The field is muddy, torn up, Uh County Stadium. The
Speaker 1: Peach Bowl was the day before, and they tore up
Speaker 1: that grass field. Uh. Babe ends up getting intercepted three times,
Speaker 1: won by some and took one back to the house.
Speaker 1: Cowboys got beat twenty six to three. They had a
Speaker 1: kickoff return for a touchdown, and poor Babe got the
Speaker 1: ever living daylights beat out of him. They blitzed and
Speaker 1: blitzed and blitzed, right. And here was a line from
Speaker 1: my story that day. I said they they pounded Babe
Speaker 1: Laffenburg harder than you would round steak. That was kind
Speaker 1: of stupid, right, He was getting hit every time he
Speaker 1: dropped back the pass. Oh, it was unbelieved. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So you remember that game right there? Yeah, because Babe
Speaker 1: was so bad. So I think I fell on him
Speaker 1: a couple. Then you got a half a sac game.
Speaker 1: Oh man, It's like baby game so many time. One
Speaker 1: time Babe was giving me a hand up, like bro,
Speaker 1: I know how bad it was. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: there was a quote after the game, Date was apologizing.
Speaker 1: He he was like, oh my gosh, I thought we
Speaker 1: were gonna get that guy killed. Was Atlantis. They were like,
Speaker 1: didn't know, They're just blitz. They had Dione out there, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that took care of that side of the field.
Speaker 1: We wasn't gonna throw the ball over there at all.
Speaker 1: But things Babes was. Babe was under such siege at
Speaker 1: the time to Babe was throwing it anywhere. But he
Speaker 1: I'm not holding on to this ball, y'all what you
Speaker 1: wanted to So so anyway, did did the Falcons make
Speaker 1: the playoffs? No playoffs? They only won five games? For games, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was their fifth. But they had Prime out the man.
Speaker 1: They had Prime out there on one corner. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the other corner was. Man. They
Speaker 1: they they was braying it man. So anyway for the
Speaker 1: Ba Babe man. So anyway, the Cowboys still had an
Speaker 1: opportunity because they had the tiebreaker over the Saints and
Speaker 1: they just needed the Rams to win the game. So
Speaker 1: we're sitting there watching this game. The Saints get off
Speaker 1: to a seventeen to three lead, but the Rams come
Speaker 1: back and tie it up with a minute seventeen to go.
Speaker 1: Seventeen seventeen, and the guy the Cowboys traded away early
Speaker 1: in the season, Steve Walsh, leads the Saints back down
Speaker 1: the field into field goal position. Now, get this here,
Speaker 1: here's how close they were to getting in at seven
Speaker 1: and nine, which would have been the first team to
Speaker 1: go from one win to the playoffs. The next season,
Speaker 1: Martin Anderson's lining up for a twenty nine yard field
Speaker 1: goal less than ten seconds to go to tie the game,
Speaker 1: to win the game, right, to win the game. The
Speaker 1: field goal gets blocked. Cowboys Cafe goes crazy, right, Well,
Speaker 1: there's a flag on the field off sides. That cookily,
Speaker 1: that's all about it. That's so I'm the retail everybody
Speaker 1: all the time. We get the pandemic referee cruise all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, so I'm the re kick from twenty
Speaker 1: four yards out with two seconds left, Martin Anderson drills it.
Speaker 1: Saints win twenty seventeen, and and that was New Year's
Speaker 1: Eve at Cowboys Cafe. I think I had a quote
Speaker 1: in my story from Lockhart and Eugene Lockhart saying that
Speaker 1: was the hardest game I ever watched in my life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably didn't see it. All the beers time it
Speaker 1: was free he owned, I think at that time was bad.
Speaker 1: Mine in my own cafe, he getting all the free stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let me say this right here. So anyway, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to point out the difference between seven and
Speaker 1: nine then and what people look at. If the Cowboys
Speaker 1: go seven and nine this year, I tell it, you're here,
Speaker 1: that's why, and I remember it and I try to
Speaker 1: express that you're never out of this thing if your
Speaker 1: division is that bad, which ours ours was at that
Speaker 1: time too. Uh, here's two guys were bad. We weren't bad. No,
Speaker 1: you guys were bad. Okay, I'm just I'm sorry we
Speaker 1: were thirteen and three. What you want me to say, Nate,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm gonna saying y'all. Y'all were not bad,
Speaker 1: but you're the reason we won three super Bowls. Ever,
Speaker 1: so we got rid of you. Okay, since you throw
Speaker 1: it dark now, but you said we were bad, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: vision but we were bad, Dallas Cowboy, because you guys
Speaker 1: inspired me, because I went to that Super Bowl that
Speaker 1: year and saw you guys playing Tampa and that inspired
Speaker 1: me to build a less fat of human coming into
Speaker 1: next season. Well, here's what I've always said about you guys.
Speaker 1: I remember when we came back in nineteen ninety of
Speaker 1: the Giants, and it was the first game. Everybody made
Speaker 1: a big deal about us coming back back home. Me
Speaker 1: and d I C and all of that. It was
Speaker 1: no big deal to us, except that we knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be hot as heck in that stadium. But
Speaker 1: we ended up, Uh, we ended up. Not only were
Speaker 1: we playing well that season, but when we played you guys,
Speaker 1: I'm all happy about kicking y'all's button, like, yeah, way
Speaker 1: to go, guys. I'm in the locker room like it
Speaker 1: was all about me and I was. I went to
Speaker 1: LT and I said, hey boy, wait, way to come
Speaker 1: in here and take care of some business. And he
Speaker 1: had this. He looked tired. You know. First I was
Speaker 1: hot out there, but he looked more tired than usual.
Speaker 1: And his words were, hey man, those guys are gonna
Speaker 1: really be good. I never forget him saying that. And
Speaker 1: from being on you guys started making moves and so
Speaker 1: it kind of put things into perspective. He wasn't celebrating. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think he by the guy's butt handed
Speaker 1: to him a little bit at that game by Martin
Speaker 1: Tulnat because I really wasn't celebrating much at all, and
Speaker 1: he made that proclamation, he said, Man, these guys are
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. So yeah, LT saw it coming.
Speaker 1: I didn't, Oh, Okim, Well okay, uh. I tell you
Speaker 1: Dre here that to win in this league is so hard.
Speaker 1: I know eversonnoyed for Everson to come in and this
Speaker 1: young part of his career to have all that success.
Speaker 1: Then when I come to the Cowboys a curse and
Speaker 1: we saw a lose it, I'm like, wow, I found
Speaker 1: out how hard it was to win in it. And
Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying to these Cowboys coach McCarthy has
Speaker 1: did a massive job of controlling this damage. It's like
Speaker 1: a tornado hit this team, and he's been controlling the damage.
Speaker 1: And he neither said nothing bad or good about his
Speaker 1: defense or his coordinator. And now he's got him through this.
Speaker 1: So he has an opportunity, whether we like it or
Speaker 1: not as fans, he has an opportunity to go to
Speaker 1: mister Jones say don't get rid of a coordinator, and
Speaker 1: mister Jones gonna listen to him, where as before six
Speaker 1: weeks ago and then want nobody listened, nobody cared. So
Speaker 1: that's damage control. Man. It's like a tornado hit this team,
Speaker 1: and that's damage control. So will he go to mister
Speaker 1: Jones and say, pay off that offensive coordinator. Don't let
Speaker 1: him leave. He has grown tremendously. Y'all know how I
Speaker 1: felt when Jason was here. I was like, get rid
Speaker 1: of this kid, dude, not let this kid ruin Jason.
Speaker 1: I do not want nothing to do with this kid.
Speaker 1: In the first ten games, I did not want anything
Speaker 1: to do with this kid. This kid has grown. He
Speaker 1: understands how to set tempo with this offense, and he's
Speaker 1: done it with a good, solid quarterback in Dalton. He's
Speaker 1: done it with a good tight end and three outstanding
Speaker 1: receivers and a running back that was struggling. He has
Speaker 1: done it. Now. Whether they not let him go or not,
Speaker 1: that's not up to me. But what I was feeling
Speaker 1: for this kid is not the same, you know, because
Speaker 1: I promise you Everson and Mick you know how I felt.
Speaker 1: Mick offer, I like, get rid of this dude. But
Speaker 1: now he has grown, and once again we have matured
Speaker 1: somebody so he can go some else and be successful.
Speaker 1: And then we have then we have to groom someone
Speaker 1: else and have these things all over again. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now six years from now we're here. We are man
Speaker 1: ever some old ain't no teeth, and I here and
Speaker 1: we're gonna see. Hey, guess who want to just want
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Who? Whoa callum mar? Thank you Dallas.
Speaker 1: That's how it be for us. That's too good. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's a good uh A look back and a
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Speaker 1: we are on our final segment of the final show
Speaker 1: of this twenty twenty year here on Mick Shots, Nate
Speaker 1: Newton joining Everson Walls and myself here in the SWBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage studio as it's pouring down rain here in the
Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth area. Matter of fact, it woke me
Speaker 1: up early this morning, and I don't think it's quit raining.
Speaker 1: Since you guys realize what would have happened if it
Speaker 1: was like ten degrees colder. Yeah, we'd be in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: It'd be like it right, that's right. What would have happened?
Speaker 1: You'd have been outside shoveling snow off your driveway. Huh
Speaker 1: it have been ten ten degrees cou'd have just not
Speaker 1: got out of my bed looking at chat Yeah whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean about hibernating the bar Is Haberna. Hey, I
Speaker 1: wanted to point out one other little stat here going
Speaker 1: into this game, since we were talking about offense and
Speaker 1: we're talking about Kellen Moore, I noticed this Giant's defense
Speaker 1: has been very susceptible to the run. In five of
Speaker 1: the last six games. Philadelphia went for one fifty six
Speaker 1: against him Seattle one eleven, Arizona one fifty nine, Cleveland
Speaker 1: one oh six, and Baltimore in this last game two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine yards rushing. So you think they
Speaker 1: can go up there and maybe run the football no
Speaker 1: matter what the weather is or what the temperature is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be the safest about to go.
Speaker 1: I think when you look at this Cowboys team, we
Speaker 1: can beat you in any ways. But I'm very surprised
Speaker 1: about the Giants defense. I think one point, you know,
Speaker 1: before they started having these wolds with the Russian game,
Speaker 1: they were like a citious defense. They beat Pittsburgh. If
Speaker 1: I'm not in the state, who did they beat Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: What they upset Spats. I got a couple of really
Speaker 1: nice wins to where all of a sudden they brought
Speaker 1: along with the Cowboys success and Washington some credibility to
Speaker 1: the NFC East, especially on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like you said, the Wolds started
Speaker 1: as far as the running game was concerned, and now
Speaker 1: they haven't. They haven't really shown that in the victory's standpoint.
Speaker 1: They beat Sea Seattle, that's the one you were thinking
Speaker 1: about at Seattle. They want at Seattle and won big win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead and Nate. It seems like when you stopped
Speaker 1: getting turnovers, you would think the passing game for the
Speaker 1: other team would get better. But when you stopped creating turnovers,
Speaker 1: it seemed like the running game get better for other teams.
Speaker 1: And now the same with us who aren't getting no turnovers.
Speaker 1: And I guess you get turnovers and get your team short.
Speaker 1: Feels it makes other offensive coordinated panic. He go to
Speaker 1: putting the ball. So but when you ain't getting no turnovers,
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we'll run whatever we want to run.
Speaker 1: Let's run this ball and go play action pass the
Speaker 1: sprintouts and that's what that's They're in the same position
Speaker 1: we were four weeks ago. They're in that position, no turnovers,
Speaker 1: can't score points, go face his short fields, and that's
Speaker 1: not a very good thing. Don't you think that's what
Speaker 1: happened to Philadelphia. Don't you think that's what happened to
Speaker 1: Philadelphia When they started turning the ball over, he quit
Speaker 1: trying to run and just throw through through. You know
Speaker 1: what happened to Philadelphia because this is a sore spot
Speaker 1: with me. The day of the draft when they got
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts that it was the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened to Philadelphia, And they ain't been
Speaker 1: right since you paid this kid one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: You keep all the receivers who hate him, and then
Speaker 1: you get rid of the coach that was good for
Speaker 1: him and Frank Wright, and all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: go out and draft Jalen Hurts and you say, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with Philadelphia? A It's like who likes Jr? Who
Speaker 1: likes wins? And that's what wrong with Philadelphia? I promise
Speaker 1: you well, when they drafted him, did they draft him
Speaker 1: to play quarterback or did they just like his ability
Speaker 1: to play all positions. Who that Jayden slot receiver, they
Speaker 1: could have thrown it to him and then the trick
Speaker 1: play major. They wanted to be more diverse. I thought
Speaker 1: they were trying to enhance customs ability to be productive.
Speaker 1: I mean he had just come off the MVP year
Speaker 1: or something like that. I just quarterbacks mindsets. You can
Speaker 1: be Aaron Rodgers, who've won a Super Bowl, and you
Speaker 1: go out and draft somebody not to help his team.
Speaker 1: But Aaron saying, ain't nothing more than what y'all have
Speaker 1: been doing. I've been tolding the team for the last
Speaker 1: eight years. I'll just be even better this year. And
Speaker 1: so when DeVante alass planning he's unstoppable. Okay, but this
Speaker 1: kid went says, never ever took him to the Promised Land.
Speaker 1: He's never finished when he started. And you give him
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars assuring that he would finish, he
Speaker 1: would start. Whatever he started, he would finish. He got
Speaker 1: hurt and came back and barely beat the Cowboys a
Speaker 1: year ago, and all of a sudden, you thought that
Speaker 1: was gonna launch him. And they say, guess what, we
Speaker 1: ain't giving you no break. Hey, Jayalen, come home from Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: we will ruin it even further for you. So, having
Speaker 1: said that, do you guys have any confidence in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: beating Washington? The reason I don't, it's because Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: will put the ball on the ground and the strength
Speaker 1: of the Washington football team. They got two defensive ends
Speaker 1: that ain't joking. They got two tackles on the inside
Speaker 1: that's smoking, and they got linebackers that would clean your clock.
Speaker 1: And they got opportunistic dvs that ain't great. But what
Speaker 1: else the paul gonna fall to me? Because these guys
Speaker 1: up front gonna make it happen. That's why I'm not
Speaker 1: giving them a chance. Jalen. They're not gonna let this
Speaker 1: kid run all over them. They're not, so he gonna
Speaker 1: have to throw it all over them, and that would
Speaker 1: be the key. If he throw it over them, they'll
Speaker 1: win the game. Well, Nate, I'm looking for I'm looking
Speaker 1: for the little general to live up to his promise.
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz promised me and I'm all Cowboys fans. He
Speaker 1: is not gonna let these guys have a hat game
Speaker 1: in his stadium. So there will be no champion, there
Speaker 1: will be no NFC East Division champion hats worn in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia this weekend. That is not gonna happen, because Jim
Speaker 1: said it ain't gonna happen. Now you talk about Washington's pluses,
Speaker 1: I talked about what's not going well with Watson. The
Speaker 1: first of all, the quarterback position is in serious dis array.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Alex Smith is going to play
Speaker 1: or not. I don't know how healthy he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Hold it a story, hold it right there. Ever since
Speaker 1: so today, yes, actually took part in drills. Yesterday, he
Speaker 1: did not practice, but he was seen in their walkthrough
Speaker 1: part of practice, taking first team reps. So, but they
Speaker 1: didn't have pads on our helmets at that time. So
Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes. And one other thing they're missing.
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson, they're running back, hasn't practiced all week. And
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, the wide receiver, has been working with the trainers.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, no that there you go. No running game,
Speaker 1: passing game except for Alex Smith's courage, really has nothing
Speaker 1: to show at this time. I think McLaurin is still
Speaker 1: playing good ball, but he hadn't been playing that well
Speaker 1: since Alex Smith has been out because he hadn't been
Speaker 1: able to be targeted effectively. What I'm looking at is defensively,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a struggle for both offensive is gonna
Speaker 1: be a struggle for both teams against both teams. Defense.
Speaker 1: Looking for Philadelphia to be inspired enough that their hate
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys won't be as strong as their hate
Speaker 1: for the Red for the Washington football team. I promise
Speaker 1: you this right here, every local druggists would be at
Speaker 1: that stadium offered their services to the quarterback other Washington
Speaker 1: football I can get you through this game. Try this,
Speaker 1: watch and this in DC so he can find it.
Speaker 1: They'll find it in DC. They'll find it. They'll rub
Speaker 1: that calf down right, Yes, sir, with every aunt met
Speaker 1: you ever thought of. We only got a few minutes left.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you guys this, when you look
Speaker 1: at this cowboy his team, and you know, we know
Speaker 1: all the problems they had, you know, up until this
Speaker 1: three game winning streak, give me one thing, one person
Speaker 1: maybe that developed that you're saying, okay, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and you can't say Donovan Wilson because you're already pointed
Speaker 1: that out. Twenty twenty one, we got something we can
Speaker 1: work with here. Everson, well, he didn't start off the
Speaker 1: season as a starter, and I really loved the starter
Speaker 1: that was in his place. I thought Jolin was a blake.
Speaker 1: Joan was a heck of a tight end, and Chultz
Speaker 1: had his problems early on blocking and even catching the ball.
Speaker 1: But I look for him to really use this year
Speaker 1: to explode into next year. He can give us a
Speaker 1: great one two punch at the tight end spot, and
Speaker 1: he when it's all said and done, even on his
Speaker 1: worst day, he blocks. He blocks better than Blake Jarlin.
Speaker 1: So to me, I think he will improve in that
Speaker 1: position and he would be an all around tight end
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. Any body of the defense you
Speaker 1: got nick defensively, yeah, I would. I would just go
Speaker 1: with take Dix. I would just go with it. I'm sorry, Uh,
Speaker 1: Trevon did, Yeah, Treyvon did. I would go we'll call
Speaker 1: him what we want, Yeah, yeah, t t Dis. I
Speaker 1: would say t Dix is going to be a very
Speaker 1: good defensive back, but he's gonna still take a few
Speaker 1: more lumps offensively. I want to say take my hat
Speaker 1: off to coach Filming because he has always had these
Speaker 1: guys ready and prepared to play, and now that our
Speaker 1: offensive coordinate his working hand in hand with him and
Speaker 1: calling the right plays in the right time and the
Speaker 1: rights situations. I want to say, Coach Filman, great job.
Speaker 1: Great job. I mean you you had the leash to
Speaker 1: work with. Besides, since we got rid of all that
Speaker 1: wasted on defense, you've had the leash to work with,
Speaker 1: and you've made the most out of for my offensive
Speaker 1: prison and on my defensive side. I don't care what
Speaker 1: you say to me. That striker called Donovan Wilson. I
Speaker 1: love your baby, I love coming. I know Nick to
Speaker 1: want me to bring that bring your name up, Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 1: That's my guy, all right, and missed the energy and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take. And it's not a
Speaker 1: new guy, but it's a it's an old guy who's
Speaker 1: a new person. And I think Randy Gregory is showing
Speaker 1: that he could be a stud in this league. He
Speaker 1: seems he and I always say this, he seems to
Speaker 1: have turned his life around. And I think what he
Speaker 1: did in this last game is very representative of what
Speaker 1: he can be now that he's got his sea legs
Speaker 1: under him. I think we all forget he missed those
Speaker 1: first six games, missed basically the seventh the seventh game,
Speaker 1: played very little as the season was going along, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the more snaps he got,
Speaker 1: you can see how destructive he can be against an offense,
Speaker 1: especially if you don't have a big time left tackle
Speaker 1: to to be able to deal with him. And I
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know if you guys been able
Speaker 1: to listen how he's handled his interviews. He's speaking, He's
Speaker 1: just speaking so uh with a clear man yes, and
Speaker 1: and and and just aggressive, not aggressively, but just meaningful, right,
Speaker 1: no wasted words. And I'm thinking, gosh, this guy might
Speaker 1: have it together. And if he's together, they may get
Speaker 1: the guy they thought they were drafting and took a
Speaker 1: chance on in twenty fifteen. So to me, Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: going forward, uh, certainly would be a bright spot. I
Speaker 1: guess we don't have to spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: picking the games, right you guys, you know you want
Speaker 1: to give me a score, you know. Yeah? By the way,
Speaker 1: Anthony B. Anthony Brown's getting another pick. Anthony Brown's getting
Speaker 1: another pick this weekend, by the way, going three for three, right, third, third,
Speaker 1: one in the third game, and since I was let
Speaker 1: out of jail, Nate, because I swore off picking the
Speaker 1: Cowboys until they won two straight. So they won two
Speaker 1: straight and I picked him win last week. I'm going
Speaker 1: for four now, four straight Cowboys, something like twenty six nineteen,
Speaker 1: something like that. No, thirty, don't don't mess up the street.
Speaker 1: Rather be over thirty. That's the only way we win.
Speaker 1: They got rid of my book, Lumbo, and I ain't
Speaker 1: got none fun you you Lumbo man, because he stood
Speaker 1: up to the head coach and they went down. I've
Speaker 1: got kids. Don't talk to me that way, all right,
Speaker 1: we guys go man. Thanks a lot, Nate, Thanks for
Speaker 1: jumping in, Nate, I appreciate it. Everson. Uh, we'll talk
Speaker 1: to you on Monday, and I think it probably should
Speaker 1: be a victory Monday, and then we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: with them. Washington's and Philadelphia. Hope everybody has a safe
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, and by God, let's turn the clock
Speaker 1: over to twenty twenty one. Her Ever Sin and old Cowboys. Chris,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot for all your help this season. Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 1: Bill Jones will be back with us on Monday, and
Speaker 1: everybody have a happy new year. See you guys from
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