1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World, we're going to have 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: a chance to chat with I think one of the 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: rising stars in the entire country and somebody who you're 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: going to hear a lot more from over the next 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: few years. I first noticed her when she was a 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: freshman and congressman. Every time I've watched her career, I've 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: just been really impressed with how smart, how hard working, 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: how eager to learn. I think how courageous she's been. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: And that is Governor christi nom of South Dakota. Her 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: handling of the COVID nineteen pandemic made her widely known. 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: But the truth is she's been in politics for a 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: good while. She's smart, she's savvy, and I think you're 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: going to find that you both like her and that 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: you look forward to following her as she leads on 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: a variety of things. She combines multiple roles. She's a wife, 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: a mother, a lifelong wrencher, farmer, and small business owner. 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: In twenty ten, after serving the South DA go To 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Legislature for several years, she was elected to serve as 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: South Dakota's lone member of the US House. During her 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: time in Congress. In addition to the the many other successes. 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Governor nom helped pass the Tax Cut and Jobs Act, 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: which put twenty four hundred dollars back in the pockets 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: of the average South Dakota family. In twenty eighteen, she 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: had a platform of protecting South Dakota's against tax increases, 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: at government growth, federal intrusion, and government secrecy, and on 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: that platform, she was elected as South Dakota's first ever 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: female governor. In addition to her amazing political achievements, she 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: often says that her greatest accomplishment is raising her three 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: children along with her husband, Brian. So I'm pleased to 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: welcome my guest Governor Christina. Thank you, Nude. I appreciate 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: you having me with you today, and we'll enjoy talking 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: about this country and what's special about it and a 33 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: little bit of what I think we need to do 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: in America to make sure that it is protected for 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: our kids and grandkids. Know I mentioned earlier that Polista 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: and I saw you down at mar Largo. We listened 37 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: to your talk and we thought, you know who was 38 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: really very very impressive. And then recently you and doctor 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: Ben Carson co authored I think a very profound and 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: important column which we're going to post on our show 41 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: page so people can read it and see just how 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: deeply committed you are to America and to the American system. 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: But before we get into politics and government, if you 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: don't mind, tell me a little bit. You grew up 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: on a ranch or did you grow up on a 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: farm as an Easterner, I will confess I'm not sure 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: the difference. Well, I actually grew up on kind of both. 48 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: I live in South Dakota and always have farms or 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: where you generally grow crops and ranches, or where you 50 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: raised cattle, horses, and livestock. So we did both of 51 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: those growing up, and I would say not from the 52 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: time I was five or six years old, I knew 53 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: that that was the lifestyle I always wanted to have. 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to grow up and farm and ranch with 55 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: my dad. He was really my best friend. So when 56 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: I got out of high school went to college, you know, 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: that was my goal, was to come back to the 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: operation and work alongside him and our family business that 59 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: had been in our family for generations. Which changed everything 60 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: was when I was going to college, my dad was 61 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: killed in an accident on our farm. It was March tenth, 62 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: and it was one of those years that we had 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: fluctuating temperatures. He went into a grain bend to empty 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: it out and fell through the crust of mold on 65 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: the top and corn buried him. So it was tragic 66 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: for us, and for me in particular. I ended up 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: quitting college and come back and taking over the operation, 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: which was one of the larger farming operations in the 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: stat of South Dakota at the time. We were farming 70 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: about ten thousand acres. The day he was killed, he 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: had rented another twenty five hundred acres. He was a 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: go getter. We had a large cow calf operation, raised 73 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: quarter horses too, and it was a lot for a 74 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: twenty two year old to take over running all those 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: different businesses and having your dad gone. He was forty 76 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: nine years old at the time, and it was a 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: little overwhelming, but we gott with death taxes. Several months later, 78 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: I got a bill in the mail from the IRS 79 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: that said we owed death taxes, And I could not 80 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: believe that the federal government had a law that when 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: a family had a tragedy that all of a sudden 82 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: we owed the federal government hundreds and hundreds and hundreds 83 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars, and like most small businesses or 84 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: farms and ranches at the time, we had land and 85 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: machinery and cattle, but we didn't have any money in 86 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: the bank, and I could not figure out how he's 87 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: going to pay those taxes. So people ask how I 88 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: got involved in government in politics. It was because of that. 89 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: I decided that we needed more normal, everyday people running 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: businesses to show up and be involved in our policy 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: to really make it work for them to be successful. 92 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Even in your busy career now as governor, are you 93 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: still running the farm. No. When I got elected to Congress, 94 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I got bought out of the operation. What happened was, 95 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: several years after my dad passed away, my older brother 96 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: moved home from Oklahoma, my sister moved home from Georgia. 97 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: My younger brother was in high school when my dad 98 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: was killed, and so he had graduated, and then we 99 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: farmed and ranched as a partnership for many many years. 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: I was the general manager, but our four families worked 101 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: there together, side by side every single day. So when 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: I got elected to Congress, I'm the very first person 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: in my family to ever get involved in politics. We 104 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: just didn't really do that and when I got elected 105 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: it was very strange. But I also decided that if 106 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to be on the operation every day, 107 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be involved in the business anymore. So 108 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: I still have equity and land, but my brothers bought 109 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: me out of the actual operating business of the farming 110 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: operation because I was obviously spending my time working on 111 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: policy in DC. But I still live on one of 112 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: the ranches with my husband when we're not in pier 113 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: with the state government, and it's still a huge part 114 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: of our way of life. So do you think the 115 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: year children will grow up wanting to live on a 116 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: farm or a ranch. Oh, definitely. My oldest daughter is 117 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: an appraiser. She owns her own company. But definitely we're 118 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: still raising horses. We have buffalo because we still live 119 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: on the ranch. We have some livestock. It's not very 120 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: big right now, but my son in law grew up 121 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: on a large cattle operation and that's where our heart is. 122 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: My other two children will come back to South Dakota too. 123 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: It's just a part of our way of life. And 124 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: of course my brothers still being involved in farming. We're 125 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: incredibly involved with them on a day to day basis 126 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: keeping that operation going and just helping them where we can. 127 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: I have to ask campus is how many buffalo are 128 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: you running? Oh, we only have a handful right now. 129 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: In fact, I just bought them this year because I 130 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: thought it'd be fun. My husband was surprised when I 131 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: told him that evening that you're not going to believe 132 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: what I did today. But I bought a few buffalo 133 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: and I want to start building our buffalo herd. When 134 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: I was a kid, my dad had a buffalo herd 135 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: and I loved it. And so in South Dakota we 136 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: have Custer State Park, which is the most beautiful state park, 137 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: I believe in the country, and we have one of 138 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the original bison herds in the nation that helped bring 139 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: buffalo back from extinction. And so that's where I bought 140 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: those buffalo from, was from the annual auction. The state 141 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: park has enough buffalo that there have been a lot 142 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: of movies made. They're at the park in order to 143 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: have that sense of what a real buffalo herd looks like. Absolutely, 144 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: and we have a roundup every fall that is the 145 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Governor's Buffalo Roundup, and we bring them into the corrals. 146 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: We have about twenty thousand people that come and watch 147 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: and participate in the roundup, and then we have an 148 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: auction that we sell some breeding stock from and then 149 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: that gives us the revenue we need to maintain the 150 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: herd each year. So it's very much a Western wavelife 151 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the rancher or Buffalo different to 152 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: run than cattle are incredibly Yeah, you will never take 153 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: the wildness and aggressiveness out of buffalo. They are much 154 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: more unpredictable. They run faster than horses, so you have 155 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: to have much more secure fencing and equipment to work 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: with them, and you definitely do not get up close 157 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: and friendly with your buffalo. There's a wonderful short video 158 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: at Yellowstone at the visitors center where they say you 159 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: have to remember that these are wild animals, and they 160 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: show this tourist getting tossed by the buffalo and they 161 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: just say, we keep telling people don't do this. Yes, well, 162 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: and I think people a lot of times think that 163 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: they can go up and approach them because they look 164 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: so peaceful, but they're extremely unpredictable animals, even if they're 165 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: on a ranch, and people would consider them a part 166 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: of their business. Operation. You will never get a buffalo 167 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: to be a pet of yours because they just have 168 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: a natural Western wildness to them that is in bread. 169 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: And I think in a way, if you come out 170 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: of a life where you're dealing with the natural world, 171 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: it teaches you some core lessons about reality that all 172 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: too often city dwellers don't quite get. You just made 173 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: a good point, which is you are kidding yourself if 174 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: you think you're about to have a pet buffalo, and 175 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: the consequence can be a disaster. Yeah, And for me, 176 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: my kids and grandkids will always have livestock. They just 177 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: will because of what it teaches them. They learn to 178 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: be responsible for another living being. They learned that they 179 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: have chores and work to do every single day. It 180 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: also teaches them to be problem solvers. Some of our 181 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: best memories as kids was rounding up cattle, working them, 182 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: vaccinating them, training horses, trying to get inside their head, 183 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: figure out what they are thinking and how we can 184 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: get them to work with us and be a partnership. 185 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: It's very much a way that I think I learned 186 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: how to approach problems in life and to work with 187 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: individuals is because of what I learned from growing up 188 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: on a ranch and working with animals and livestock and 189 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: being responsible. I never got to take a day off 190 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: because they always needed to be fed and cared for 191 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: and it was my responsibility. So have you been able 192 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: to take those kind of lessons and bring them into 193 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: public service. I have. Although it's interesting, I feel like 194 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time talking about raising kids 195 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: to just because one of the best gifts that my 196 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: parents ever gave me was giving me impossible things to 197 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: do when we were kids. My dad never taught me 198 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: to drive a semi He just when I was twelve 199 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: years old, got it going down the road and jumped 200 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: out the door and said take it home and make 201 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: your corners wide. You know, we drove ourselves to school 202 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: when we were eight nine years old and it was 203 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: several miles away. We had to work with cattle from 204 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: the time we were young, and it was you know, 205 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: you go feed them, take care of those calves, and 206 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: do it and figure it out. And it wasn't an 207 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: option to come back to dad and say that you failed. 208 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: He gave you a job, he expected you to finish 209 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: it and you had to figure it out. And I 210 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: think that is one of the best gifts that they 211 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: ever gave us as children was giving us those impossible 212 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: things to do because it caused us to figure out 213 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: a way to get it done, solve the problem. But 214 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: then also when we did accomplish it, it gave me confidence. 215 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: It taught me that I can figure things out and 216 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: that I can tackle things that seem very, very difficult 217 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: and have the confidence to really take on even bigger challenges. 218 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: So I do work a lot of that into public service, 219 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: and I think I talk about it a lot, but 220 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: we also implement it and show it even with working 221 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: with my employees, that we're not here to live in 222 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: an instant gratification society. We're here to determine what decisions 223 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: we can make that creates a stronger America, stronger family, 224 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: stronger people twenty thirty years from now. So I would 225 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: never want to be guilty of making a decision it's 226 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: beneficial for me, as much as I would want to 227 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: focus on what is the consequences of this decision twenty 228 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: years from now? When you think it kind of along 229 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: view that makes you different than most politicians. It does, 230 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: and I think that some people that have been involved 231 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: with me in my political life would say that that's 232 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: probably been to my political detriment. You know, I took 233 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: on some fights that probably were not going to be 234 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: the popular thing at that point in time, but I 235 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: thought it was important because of the consequences of it. 236 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: I was very reluctant to legalize hemp in the state 237 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: of South Dakota and argued against it for quite some 238 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: time because I can't enforce the difference between hemp and marijuana, 239 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: and I can't tell the difference out there my drug dogs, 240 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: can't my law enforcement officers. And you know, we had 241 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: that debate for a long period of time and people 242 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: would tell me, why is she against this? But it 243 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: was because of the consequences and what it did to 244 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: public safety and people that are out there on the 245 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: street dealing with it. So there's just different things that 246 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: I've tried to look at, not just what politically works 247 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: for today, but if we make this decision, how do 248 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: I deal with it five, ten, fifteen years down the road, 249 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: and what does it open the door to. No. One 250 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: of the things that you've done as a huge long 251 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: term consequence is you got right in the middle of 252 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: the fight over the Keystone HL pipeline and the decisions 253 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: of the Biden administration. Was that a big challenge or 254 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: was it just so obvious to you that there was 255 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: no alternative. Well, it's a big challenge because it's a 256 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: little controversial here in South Dakota. I've got nine Native 257 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: American tribes that are not in favor of the pipeline. 258 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: They believe that it's not the right approach for moving 259 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: our natural resources, which every data point disagrees with that 260 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: it is much better policy on protecting the environment. It's 261 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: safer to move this oil through pipelines than it is 262 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: over the roads and rail like we do today. It's 263 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: much safer for our communities and people to move it 264 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: through the pipeline as well, and it's much more efficient 265 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: and would give us the stability that we need in 266 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: the energy sector, which our state is highly reliant on. 267 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: But because there's some division in the state of South 268 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: Dakota over it, you know, it was a little bit 269 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: risky too. And also I had watched the fights that 270 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: we'd had over the build in North Dakota. If you 271 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: remember that newt the Dapple pipeline that cost the state 272 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: of South Dakota hundreds of millions of dollars in North 273 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: Dakota with law enforcement costs and what those protests did. 274 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: When I first got elected as governor, I brought forward 275 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: two bills that would give us the opportunity in the 276 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: state to assess the pipeline company for those costs and 277 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: save our taxpayers the court costs, the law enforcement costs, 278 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: and the safety costs that North Dakota had to deal with. 279 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: So even just me as soon as I became governor 280 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: bringing forward those two bills that saved the state of 281 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: South Dakota potentially hundreds of millions of dollars by having 282 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the pipeline company pay those costs if they were to 283 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: build it through this state, which TransCanada supported. TC Energy 284 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: supported my bills because they recognized that they had a 285 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: governor that would partner with them to build a pipeline 286 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: safely and make sure that any violent protests that broke 287 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: out would be adequately taken care of. So I was 288 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: in this fight for years even when I was in Congress, 289 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: but then proactively trying to protect taxpayers from any costs 290 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: with building pipelines to make sure that we had some 291 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: certainty in our energy sector. So, as I understand it, 292 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: this is clearly not a topic where I'm an expert. 293 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: But the actual result if you don't build the pipeline 294 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: and you end up shipping the oil by rail and 295 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: by truck, is you actually increase the risk of spills, 296 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: and you raise the price, and you actually increase total pollution. 297 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: That is correct. Yes, there's a much greater chance of spills. 298 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: There's a much greater chance of accidents. Any of these 299 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: rail lines and roads go through small towns, and we've 300 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: had incidences in the past where they've had accidents that 301 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: have been extremely dangerous for the people that live there. 302 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: And it costs much more, obviously, and it's aware and 303 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: tear on our roads and bridges. So to put it 304 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: through the pipeline not only protected costs and made us 305 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: more efficient, it also protected our environment and it protected 306 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: the people that live here. What President Biden did on 307 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: day one by canceling those permits was the wrong decision 308 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: on every level, the wrong decision on policy, energy, environment, 309 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: and safety. I'm curious, what do you think motivates people 310 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: to be in favor of a policy. I mean, I've 311 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: always thought that some of the people who opposed the 312 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: pipeline actually had interest in trucks and railroads, that's possible, 313 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: though they haven't been the vocal opponents for us. It's 314 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: our Native American tribes and they have opposed it based 315 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: on Mother Earth and protecting their land and water. But 316 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: all of the research and data and facts around it 317 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: show that it obviously would be safer to have it 318 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: in the pipeline than it would especially with the new 319 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: technologies that come out now with these pipelines. In the 320 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: way that they're built, they're just incredibly advanced in how 321 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: they put in protection systems to stop skills almost immediately. 322 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: But beyond that, those that are posed, I think are 323 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: those that honestly are just opposed to the oil and 324 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: gas industry. They would be those on the left that 325 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: say they're for items and policies like the Green New Deal, 326 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: and that's just not workable for the average everyday family, 327 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: especially in a state like South Dakota, where it is 328 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: incredibly cold in the winter, it is incredibly hot in 329 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: the summer, and it is a long ways to drive anywhere, 330 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: so we are heavily energy dependent, and the reality for 331 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: most people here in South Dakota is that they need 332 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: pipelines like this to make their way of life something 333 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: that they can enjoy and keep more dollars in their pockets. 334 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: Are you being to see gasolene prices go up? Yes, 335 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: our gasoline prices since President Biden's been in office have 336 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: gone up about thirty percent. I just wrote a column 337 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: that this is sort of the hidden Biden tax. When 338 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: he tells it's only going to hit people above four 339 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, you ought to go to your local 340 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: gas station and watch who's filling up their car. In effect, 341 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: his policies are leading them to pay a hidden tax 342 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: of inflation. Well and for us too. Now we've got 343 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: some big populated areas of South Dakota, but much of 344 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: our state it's thirty miles to go to the grocery store. 345 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: People drive forty miles to go to work every day. 346 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: So you know, until there's a real option for those individuals, 347 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: it is just direct money that they have to spend 348 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: just to take care of their families. And those are 349 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: the people that aren't making a lot of money anyways, 350 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: and it's literally going to be a decision between whether 351 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: to fill their gas tank up or to be able 352 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: to go out to eat once a week, or buy 353 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: their kids those new shoes that they need to play basketball. 354 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: That's the decisions that are happening, and it's directly hurting 355 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: those middle class families, lower income families that you know 356 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: are going to struggle in that kind of an environment. 357 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: When I was a child, my dad was a station 358 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: at Fort Riley, Kansas, and coming out of a heavily 359 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: populated East, the idea that somebody might go fifty miles 360 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: for a Friday night dinner. It took a little bit 361 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: of adjusting. That's right, well, and we need to remember 362 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: that there's value to having us here. We grow your food. 363 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: We are the backbone of this country that gets up 364 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: every day and make sure that people have a beautiful 365 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: place to come visit, but also that they are putting 366 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: food on your table and building the manufacturing and products 367 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: that show up on your store shelves. And that's what 368 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: we need in order for our country to be stable 369 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: and to have a stable economy is to have every 370 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: single part of it be producing and thriving. They tell 371 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: folks all the time that when you put all your 372 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: eggs in one basket and a couple of parts of 373 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: the country is when you get instability. And through the 374 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight housing crisis and some of the 375 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: recessions that we've seen, it's been Middle America. It's been 376 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: the Midwest that has stabilized the national economy when so 377 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: many of the other areas were struggling. And it was 378 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: because of our conservative government and decision making that kept 379 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: our economy going better than it did in so many 380 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: of those other blue states. You know, one of the 381 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: most interesting side stories that has developed out of the 382 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: Biden administration, where you are right in the middle of it, 383 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: and I think it really drew tension to you, was 384 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: this decision by the National Park Service to block you 385 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: from holding a July fourth fireworks celebration at Mount Rushmore. 386 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea what they're thinking is other 387 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: than they're just nuts. Well, I think they specifically blocked 388 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: us from holding that celebration to be punitive and to 389 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: be political. You know, we for years hosted fireworks at 390 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore on July third, the night before July fourth, 391 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: so that when everybody woke up on Independence Day on 392 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: all their TV screens, on all of their media outlets, 393 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: they could see us celebrating or founding fathers on that 394 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: monument in South Dakota and being proud of being American 395 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: We did that for many years, but we lost those 396 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: fireworks when President Obama came into office. He took away 397 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: our ability to host them. So one of the things 398 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: that I asked President Trump even before I was sworn 399 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: in as governor, was to help me get back our 400 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: fireworks celebration. It was our opportunity to showcase South Dakota, 401 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: showcase Mount Rushmore, and to really be patriots and celebrate independence. 402 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: President Trump became extremely dedicated to helping me do that, 403 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: and we did, and I think most everybody in the 404 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: country had an opportunity to see part of that celebration 405 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: last year. When we had agreed to do that celebration, 406 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: we had signed memorandums of agreement to continue hosting that 407 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: celebration every single year. We went through the environmental permitting processes, 408 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: We had agreements with for a service, National Park Service, 409 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: Wildland Fire on a go no go checklist to deal 410 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: with potential fire hazards. We had local leaders sign on 411 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: for facilitating getting in and out, and had gone through 412 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: every single logistical negotiation and gotten that done so these 413 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: celebrations could continue to happen. But when President Biden came 414 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: into office and denied us our permits that we were 415 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: to be allocated according to that agreement. There was no 416 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: reason given, And I guess that's my biggest problem is 417 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: that if he would have cited environmental concerns, if he 418 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: would have cited fire dangers, even public health issues, which 419 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: last year we hosted it during the pandemic and did 420 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: not have an event that spread the virus. We allowed 421 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: people to come and to be a part of it. 422 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: So that was the thing that is challenging for me 423 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: is that President Biden took it away with no reason 424 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: other than, we believe, just to be political and to 425 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: not celebrate America. I read yesterday that the Defense Department 426 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: has refused to issue a permit to Rolling Thunder, which 427 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: is the annual Memorial Day weekend. People arrive on motorcycles, 428 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: huge numbers, and really in celebration of our wounded veterans 429 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: and as a very very pro American thing. All of 430 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: a sudden I found out that they had blocked it 431 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: from using the Pentagon parking lot, which is empty on 432 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend. And it just struck me that very 433 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: parallel to what you're experiencing, they go out of their 434 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: way to avoid celebrating America. They do, and I had 435 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: not heard that. That makes me sad because our country 436 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: needs to unify at this point in time. We need 437 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: an opportunity to come together and be proud of our background, 438 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: our history and talk about it. It's through events like 439 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: this that our kids see it on TV, they hear 440 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: about it in the news, and then we have conversations 441 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: that educate them on why they're still free and why 442 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: they have liberties that have been defended and fought for 443 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: and protected for so many years. So that's what is 444 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: the sad. Consequence of this is that I'm obviously suing 445 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: the Biden administration to get my fireworks back. But what's 446 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: interesting is President Biden was the one himself who stood 447 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: up on national TV and said we could celebrate our 448 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: freedom from this virus by Independence Day. So he declared 449 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: that himself that by the time we get to July fourth, 450 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: we should be celebrating our independence from the virus. What 451 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: better way than to do that, Mount Rushmore celebrating our 452 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: America's independence and freedom and birthday. So this whole notion 453 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: of not celebrating America, the whole effort by the left 454 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: to rewrite American history, something which you wrote an op 455 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: edit on Fox News with Secretary Ben Carson, and you 456 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: signed the seventeen seventy six Pledge to Save our Schools. 457 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: Tell me you're thinking about all this and how you 458 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: hope it will develop, not just in South Dakota but 459 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: also around the country. Well, it's kind of a longer 460 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: story than probably what we've seen over the last year developed. 461 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: But when I first was sworn in as governor, so 462 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: almost three years ago, I brought a bill to my 463 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: legislature asked them to put more civics and history into 464 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: our curriculum to teach more of America's background. It was 465 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: killed by Republicans. My Republican legislature defeated that, saying it 466 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: wasn't necessary, And I started to realize that people didn't 467 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: necessarily know how important it was to focus teaching our 468 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: children that background and give them that kind of insight 469 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: into our true patriotic background. When I got into the 470 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic and started to make decisions, it was 471 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: very much based on what authority I had as a 472 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: governor and what authority I didn't have as a governor. 473 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: I took my oath to the state Constitution, the US Constitution. Seriously, 474 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: I didn't just consult with my health professionals and researchers. 475 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: I also consulted with my general counsel and constitutional attorneys 476 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: to find out exactly what a governor's role is and 477 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: what a governor's role isn't. So I made my decisions 478 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: based off of that, and it was all based on 479 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: that foundation of a country, because New Diegest believe that 480 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: when a governor oversteps their authority in a time of crisis, 481 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: or when a leader does that, that's really when you 482 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: break America. So you know, I made those decisions, But 483 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: we also watched the riots happen across the country last year. 484 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: We watched protests. We watched people give up their freedoms, 485 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: their freedom of assembly, they let the government tell them 486 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: they had to shelter in place. They lost their freedom 487 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: of religion, they let the government tell them they couldn't 488 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: go to church, they lost their freedom of speech. By 489 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: what we saw happening with our social media giants that 490 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: control the narrative out there, and I realized I couldn't 491 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: just talk about the decisions that I was making in 492 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: South Dakota anymore, which were different than any other governor 493 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: in the country was making that I needed to tell 494 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: people why I was making the decisions that I made. 495 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: So some of those press conferences that I held in 496 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the pandemic, in the middle of the 497 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: summer last year were just about freedom and about our 498 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: countitution and educating people as to what the Constitution said 499 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: my role was and why I was making the decisions 500 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: not to shut down our state, not to close any businesses, 501 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: not to even define what an essential business was, because I, 502 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: as a governor, didn't have the authority to tell you 503 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: your business wasn't essential. And that was something that as 504 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: I went on and on and on, I became more 505 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: and more alarmed as to how ignorant people really were 506 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: to the background in history that is the truth about America. 507 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: So that's why I was the first governor this week 508 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: in the country to sign on to the seventeen seventy 509 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: six Pledge that says, in our school systems, we need 510 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: an honest accounting for our history. We need our true 511 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: history to be taught, and that we have to push 512 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: back on critical race theory, on the sixteen nineteen project. 513 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: We need to point out how they are absolutely pushing 514 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: lies to our children about what America is about, and 515 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: that we need to make sure that that is a 516 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: priority for us, and that I'll continue to do that 517 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: because in this day and age, leaders can't just be 518 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: making decisions. They need to take on the responsibility of 519 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: really educating people as to what our true history is 520 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: and why it's still important today and into the future. So, 521 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is really important. It was 522 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: interesting in Ronald Reagan's farewell address, he said after going 523 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: through the great things they had achieved, he said the 524 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: greatest failure was turning around the teaching of American history 525 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: and that it worried him more than any other single 526 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: thing that they had failed to get done. So in 527 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: a sense, you have picked up the torch for something 528 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: that President Reagan felt was at the heart of what 529 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: threatened us as a country, because it literally is an 530 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: anti American movement to change things and to change things 531 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: in ways that are I think very unacceptable to most people. 532 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: You may know that less Saturday in Texas there was 533 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: a local community which had a vote on this topic, 534 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: and seventy one percent voted to elect a school board 535 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: that was committed to the same policies that you are. 536 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: And I thought it was very interesting that. I mean, 537 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: seventy one percent means to be a pretty good vote, 538 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: and I think it shocked some of the people and 539 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: the news media to realize it. Maybe their view is 540 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: not all that popular out there in the country at large. 541 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: Let me give you a chance to explain the only 542 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: thing that people have said that I think has confused 543 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: or blurred what is otherwise so far an extraordinary performance 544 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: by you as governor, as congresswoman, and as an emerging 545 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: truly national leader. And that's this whole issue about protecting 546 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: women's sports, because at best it seems kind of muddled 547 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: with the legislature passing something. I think you vetoed it, 548 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: but then you wissued an executive order. I just want 549 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: to give you a mintitwo to sort of explain to 550 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: the folks what the state of play was, what's happening, 551 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: And because as I listened to you the other night 552 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: at mar long Ago, I had a feeling like there's 553 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: a different story than the one the news media may 554 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: have carried. Yes, and you're exactly right. I have always 555 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: fought for only girls to play in girls' sports. In fact, 556 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: years ago, the federal government came out to the state 557 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: of South Dakota and told the Sport of Rodeo that 558 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: they could no longer have girls events and boys events, 559 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: that they had to be open to everybody. And I 560 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: was in Congress at the time, and I went to 561 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: war to protect the girls events and the boys events 562 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: and to push back on the federal government. I remember 563 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: during that time it was incredibly lonely because no other 564 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: member of Congress would help, none of my delegation, and 565 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: not even the governor at the time. But I partnered 566 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: with the Sport of Rodeo to push back, and with 567 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: Sonny Purdue's help at USDA, was able to get them 568 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: to reverse course so that Rodeo could always continue the 569 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: way that it has and have girls events and boys events. 570 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons nude I think. I 571 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: was so shocked by how the story got told in 572 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: the national media because I have a long history on 573 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: this issue and a very public fight with the federal 574 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: government to ensure we were protecting girls sports. But my 575 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: legislature passed a bill during the legislative session that would 576 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: have ensured that in the K twelve system in collegiate system, 577 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: they girls only played girls sports. But it also had 578 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: a lot of other elements to it. It opened up 579 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity for every child who played sports to sue 580 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: other children on that team if they didn't make it 581 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: on the team. It allowed them to sue the school 582 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: district if they were not chosen to be a part 583 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: of the team, and it allowed them to sue for 584 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: emotional damages with no cap And then the enforcement actions 585 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: were extremely flawed. And so what I asked my legislature 586 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: to do was to change it. I did not veto 587 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: the bill. What I did is I sent it to 588 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: the legislature and said, fix this bill and I will 589 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: sign it. Unfortunately, my legislature did not accept the changes 590 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: in the bill died. The story that got told in 591 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: the national media was that I vetoed it, which absolutely 592 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: wasn't true. So what I did after the legislature did 593 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: not accept the changes was I put two executive orders 594 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: in place that said only girls will play in girls 595 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: sports in my public schools, and then also only girls 596 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: will play in girls sports at the collegiate level. And 597 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: those executive orders will stand until my legislature passes bills 598 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: that can be signed into law. But what happened in 599 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: the press and with conservatives is that they read a headline. 600 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: They didn't read the bill. They didn't see the bill 601 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: that my legislature sent me, which was unlike any other 602 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: bill in the country. There was no other bill that 603 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: passed through any other state that had the flaws in 604 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: it that mine did. And I just believe that it's 605 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: not my job to sign bad bills that have a 606 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: lot of other unintended consequences, and it's my job to 607 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: fix them, which is what I did when I asked 608 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: the legislature to change it. I wish they would have 609 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: accepted it, but in the meantime, these executive orders will 610 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: stand until we get a bill that I can sign 611 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: into law that's really really helpful. I have to ask 612 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: you when you were back there, I assume you were 613 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: competing in rodeo. Yes, I grew up competing in rodeo. 614 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: I was a rodeo coach. My kids rodeo as well. 615 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: It's a very big part of our life here in 616 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: South Dakota. It is our sport. Which events did you 617 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,479 Speaker 1: compete in? I did barrels, poles, and goat tying, So 618 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: those were the ones that I spent all my time 619 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: competing in. Were you a champion goat time. I was 620 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: pretty pretty quick, but I don't know if I was 621 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: the champion. Those goats are pretty widely. I'm just thinking 622 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: about if some people's hopes for you pan out. It's 623 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: a little bit like honesty split in the logs. I mean, 624 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: I have this image of you tying goats and saying, 625 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: I think I can after the Congress. That's right. You know, 626 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: I think most of our family stories and memories are 627 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: of either cattle, livestock, or these rodeo events. You know, 628 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: me and my girls would travel for rodeo to rodeo 629 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: each weekend. We'd sleep in our trailer and it's a tough, 630 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: dirty way of life, but so special. We have so 631 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: many memories. Did you go down to Cheyenne? Yes, I've 632 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: been there before, but I need to get back there. 633 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: Cynthia keeps inviting me. As I understand it. That's just 634 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: an amazing center. Well in the history around that rodeo 635 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: is incredible. It was so sad for me to even 636 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: see a lot of rodeos get canceled this last year 637 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: because of COVID. Because they're outdoors and these people wanted 638 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: to have their sporting event. I think it was also 639 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: amazing to me to watch Rodeo Champion America. If you 640 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: watched a rodeo this year. They are such patriotic Americans 641 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: that love this country that a lot of folks who 642 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: couldn't stand to watch the NFL for the agenda they 643 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: were pushing Made League Baseball for what they were pushing 644 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: Rollo would never do anything like that. They love this 645 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: country and any chance they get to tell its story, 646 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: they will. And I suspect in terms of the threat 647 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: of COVID, if you're willing to get out there in 648 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: the arena with a bull, probably you don't regard risk 649 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: taking quite the same as if you're sitting in a 650 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: high rise in New York City. That's exactly true. They're toughness. Well, well, listen, 651 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: you are a terrific leader, you have a very big future, 652 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: and you're also a good sport And I really appreciate 653 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: the way you've talked candidly and openly about things, and 654 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: I wish you well and I think all of us 655 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: are going to be hearing a great deal more from you. Well, 656 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: let's visit again soon. I enjoyed it, and I would 657 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: love to chat with folks, especially when it comes to 658 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: this education process that we need to have with our kids. 659 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: And honestly, there's a lot of adults that don't understand 660 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: the importance of protecting our constitution and our freedoms and 661 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: what our history means to us. There's an enormous vacuum 662 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: right now for somebody to fill to help citizens understand 663 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: what their rights are, and what they can do to 664 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: change the schools, and what they can do to make 665 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: sure their children learn patriotic and accurate history. I have 666 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: a hunch that we're going to be seeing you around 667 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: the country. Yes, let me tell you. Note. Everything you're 668 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: seeing in South Dakota that's successful right now is because 669 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: I adhered to the history and the perspective that our 670 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: founding fathers gave us. We are the fastest growing economy, 671 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: the lowest unemployment in the nation. We have thousands of 672 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: people moving to our state, and we have historic revenues 673 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: coming in and it's all because we adhere to conservative 674 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: principles as defined by our founding fathers that were given 675 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: to us at the beginning of this country. And that's 676 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: the testimony people should use to really blue print out 677 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: how their way of life should be protected. That's great. 678 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: Listen thank you very very much, you bet, thanks nude. 679 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: Thank you to my guest Governor Christy No. You can 680 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: read more about the topics we discussed in this episode 681 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: on our showpage at newtsworld dot com. Newtsworld is produced 682 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: by Gingwich three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is 683 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: Debbie Myers, our producer is Garnsey Sloan, and our researcher 684 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for the show was created 685 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: by Steve Penley. Special thanks to the team at Gingwich 686 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: three sixty. 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