WEBVTT - Why Does Anyone Buy A 2-Wheel Drive? 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.480 What's up, guys, Welcome back to the podcast, this time 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:15.960 live again. Second time in a row we've done a 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.279 live podcast. So part of you will listen to it 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.119 right now, and then part of y'all will listen to 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.680 it when it comes out on Monday. I got a 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.400 bunch of people in the studio today, a whole bunch 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.440 of people. Ant Man producing the show, and I got 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.400 Chris Lee, the Mighty Chris with the big arms. Yeah, 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.280 he doesn't have a mind, he's got the wide mic, 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.000 but he's here just to make sure things. You know, 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.760 no intruders come in here, and that's with us. That's 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:45.400 why he has big guns. 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We've got a mud bog, two 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.920 mud bogs in fact, a dot track which is street 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:43.520 legal trucks and UTVs, and then a big boy track 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.120 for the unlimited class I E. Monster trucks. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:48.680 Wasn't there going to be a third one? 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.840 Well, there's three categories, two tracks. What were you thinking? 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:54.600 Kids track? 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.080 Oh yeah, yeah, and then we will have kids. If 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.960 you're listening, We're going to do a called power Wheel 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.880 Race in between the two tracks. That's awesome. Maverick will 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.480 be entering in that. I'm gonna be racing you, racing Chris. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:09.160 I'm not. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.079 I'm staying far far away. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.440 Is your truck your truck four will drive? It? Is not? Oh? 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:16.720 Is your truck four will drive in? 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:16.920 No? 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:18.880 Both of y'all got the white trucks. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.000 I know, okay, the don't give me some This has 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.760 been a topic in our house all the way up 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:29.920 to yesterday. Literally, I have gone to the dealership to 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.200 trade in my truck because I wanted a four by four. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.880 When I bought it in twenty twenty, none were available. Remember, 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.360 everything was short. But I needed a new car, okay, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.840 and so I bought the one I have, And now 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.000 they're three times as much just for four wheel drive. 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:43.240 Yea. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.600 I bought that truck for maybe thirty thousand a four 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.200 by four right now? Brand new? 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:55.000 Yeah, okay, sixty grand? Okay, Well maybe y'all could use 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.320 the old seventy seven i've got Okay, Okay, you trust 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.600 us with that? Yes, I don't trust myself with it. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.920 So could we go see the guys at Ege Apparel? 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:08.320 We can assume we should be able to go. Oh, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:13.200 there they are right there. What's up, fellas? Y'all getting ready? 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:14.600 Why? 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:15.280 So? 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.320 My question is to Chris and everybody else that doesn't 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.440 have a four by four truck, what's the point of 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.239 having a truck if it's not four by four? 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:24.160 Is that a dumb question? 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:24.480 Man? 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.320 Tyler, don't get this. This podcast is about answering questions 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.160 for the fans, not for me explaining why I don't 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:31.960 have a four by more. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:40.160 All right, city city boys. It's for city boys. Yeah, Tyler, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.560 you're gonna get your your red Ford wet. 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.760 I mean I pulled you out yesterday. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.600 He did, so we didn't have the hubs walked in. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.840 So do we do? We have Justin there with you guys. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.400 Is he out working on the truck. He's working on 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.000 his on his truck he just bought. Yeah, he's out here. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.400 So we have Justin Hildebrant, who is a big time 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.320 YouTuber and he does this stuff. He actually told us 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:08.839 the other day a couple of weeks ago, he said 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.160 he's been doing this most of his life. Didn't he 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.720 say something like that, I've been doing this most of 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.640 my life. So I think that qualifies him as knowing 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.520 what he's talking about. Yee Day is open to the 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.320 public for the first time ever, And I'll be totally 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.000 honest with everyone listening right now. This is really a 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.240 trial year for us. Opening it up to the public 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.360 is a trial year. We're gonna see how it goes 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:36.279 and really shoot for you know, I hope decades, Lord Willing, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.800 decades of ye Day where you could bring you can 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.880 come and bring your kids and bring your power wheels 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.360 and bring a pickup truck that's four wheel drive and 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.279 put it in the mud and celebrate with us. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.640 I'll park over there with Chris. I guess. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.800 I don't understand, Like I know, it's cool to have 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.320 a four wheel drive pickup truck. That's like the cool 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.480 thing to have, right, it makes you more manly and everything. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.720 It's no, no, no, no, Chris, you don't understand. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.760 Aside from hold up, Chris, don't have headphones on. 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.359 Chris speaking over you Smith boys again, how does it 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.560 feel you do it to me? You do it to 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:14.960 me all the time? 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:18.600 Nothing over here. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:21.479 Let me explain what Tyler saying. Go ahead to the. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.760 City boy, and he's never been in the mud, so 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:24.640 he doesn't need a pit. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.440 He said, you're a city boy, and you don't. You've 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:27.760 never been in the mud, so you don't need a 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:28.360 four wheel drive. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.400 It's right, Okay, I never claimed to be a country 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.880 boy by any means. But if I'm not, if my 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:41.479 daily life isn't getting stuck possibly getting stuck in the mud, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.200 like I'm not getting stuck in the mud taking my 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.640 son to baseball practice, right, So what's the point of 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.960 having the four wheel drive? I don't live up north 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:54.000 where there's snow during the winter. So unless you live 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:55.839 on a farm, what's the purpose. Or you're doing this 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.920 mud bogging thing, what's the purpose of having it? 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.919 Yeah, it's a good argument. You have to love you 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.840 have to love the fun of mudding, I guess. Or 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.839 you have to be going to the deer blind that's 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.920 very difficult to get to or there. I mean, that's 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.840 not the only two reasons. But but if you're taking 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.359 your kid to baseball practice and you just like a 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.240 pickup truck, then get a two wheel drive. Like Ant said, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:21.839 you're gonna save a lot of money. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.400 What if it's a wet day at the baseball park? See, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.719 that's what I always think of. What is Yeah, what 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:28.200 if it's. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.920 Been raining, like it's about to this weekend and it's 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.479 probably gonna get rained out. But what I don't get. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.760 What I don't get is the and I really get 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.880 it from these Smith brothers. Here is the condescending tone, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.760 the let down when you when you state that you 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.680 don't have And I get this not just from you guys, 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.719 but from other people. It's like, oh, you don't have 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.000 a four wheel drive. Oh, I guess we see who's 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:52.360 running that family, right. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.400 Parker doesn't have a four wheel drive either. Parker's driving 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.880 Dad's old truck, not not the old the seventy four 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.760 old truck, but the other old truck, the uh, the 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.480 one that was sitting at at Moms forever. And Parker's like, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:05.839 I'm want to save some money and drive that. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.160 I was gonna say, he's the smartest of everyone here. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.120 Yeah, the only. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.960 Reason to have four wheel drive is so you can 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.400 tell people you have four wheel drive. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.800 Oh, come on, be fair again. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.080 I just pulled Granger out yesterday. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.000 I literally pulled out the forklift that somebody drove in 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.800 the grass that's not supposed to be in the grass 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:27.520 and pulled them. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.040 Out three days ago. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.200 So it's like, we like to Chris's point, Yeah, Chris, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.800 the condescending thing, Like I get it, Like if you're 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.360 never if you're always on the pavement, two will droves fine. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.600 But being out on the farm, living on a farm, 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.520 at the ranch, going hunting on Granger, so you just 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:43.680 have to have a four by four. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.200 Yeah, So you guys could join in on this conversation. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.760 Anyone could comment and give us a good reason why 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.520 you need a four wheel drive I think there's I 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.800 think they're personally are There are many and I think 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.480 Parker has a point as well. So Crystal says, my 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.000 husband's dream truck was a ninety five to two thousand 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.240 and Ford F three fifty super duty Diesel four by 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:09.360 four and w R was I mean bought one, and 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.080 we bought one. Okay, we bought one without the four 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.520 by four. And as much as he loves our truck 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.440 with a Texas flag on the tailgate, he still complains 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.480 about not having four wheel drive. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.680 Oh yeah, I have no need for one, and I 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:26.560 complain every day too. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.160 Yeah, you know what it came in Andy was the 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.640 ice storm in Texas. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.400 Truck the ice the ice storm was huge, and we 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.839 have you know, usually once a year in Texas you're 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.360 going to need a four wheel drive. I spent a 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.520 couple of years ago. I spent a couple of days 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.600 just pulling, pulling people out of the ditch with that 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.400 when I had that Ford. Adam says, let's hear what 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.240 Earl Dibblis Junior would say about all this. Yeah, I 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.920 think I think Adam Earl would say, if you're going 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.760 to drive a truck, I mean, why are you even 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.880 gonna get no two wheel drive and doesn't even make 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.720 no sense, just going tire spinning, spinning, spinning, like yet, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.079 I don't even like them too. Will drive bowler drives 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.880 the only way to go for a country boys, That's 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.000 what I think. That's what he would say. Probably he 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.280 said that before, right, Yeah, so guys, uh, before we 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.040 let you go, what we know about tomorrow? I'm gonna 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:16.800 head up there just a little bit to get you guys, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.440 or to to see if we can get some water 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.680 from the big track to the little track. But what 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.280 else should we know about ye day tomorrow? 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.320 Don't show up if you don't have a ticket. I 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.840 think we still have tickets available today. But it's a 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:38.600 pretty pretty uh. You won't let you won't be let 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.080 in at the gate if you don't have a ticket. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.199 So go get a ticket now. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.640 We still have some available. There's gonna be a lot 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.520 of fun. Next year, we'll probably do a Saturday. I 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.439 think the only reason we did Friday this year was 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.240 because Granger, you're leaving the some other country or state 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.000 or something again to go speak. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.439 That's what I do. Okay, we got. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:02.400 Trucks, we got beer, we got the mud, bogs being 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.480 worked on right now. This is the most insane mud 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:05.280 bog I've ever seen. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.000 They're like four or five feet deep. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.080 There's literally like half a million dollar machinery like digging 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.440 into the mud making sure that it's like the perfect 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.120 the perfect amount of mud to be able to let 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.719 certain trucks get far enough but then get stuck at 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.880 certain points. We have like redneck scientists out there perfecting it. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.880 It's gonna be like one of the greatest days in 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.200 Yee history, honestly, and we're super exciting, and we got 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:30.760 we got a. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.560 Bunch of friends and guests like Neil Brisbee, Hannah Baron. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.640 I think Weston Champlain's coming is coming. A bunch of 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.600 people like that, a bunch of friends over the years. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.240 They're gonna be hanging out, so it's gonna be a 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:43.640 fun time. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.760 I agree. I agree with Parker. I think it's going 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.000 to be It's gonna be one of the coolest days 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.120 we've had at Ee Farm since Holler, and it may 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.920 even be better than Holler, since the Holler music video shows. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.680 It'll be better because everybody who's seen this place for 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.520 years is finally gonna be able to be here and 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.520 like be and when a helicopter comes roaring in right 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:03.240 over their heads, like. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.319 Don't give away all the surprises, Parker. Yeah, that's cool. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.840 All right, guys. Well, I'll see you in a few 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.720 hours and everyone else you'll all see the EUEI farm tomorrow. 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:15.200 See you guys. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.800 Yep. All right. So let's get to what we do 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.640 on this podcast, and that's answer some questions. And thankfully 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.679 it's not just my brain working on this. We got 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.120 Chris and ant Man. This question comes in from We'll 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:31.360 see who. This is from Garrett, and Garrett wants to 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.360 argue about some stuff here. Just kidding, he says this, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.360 Hey Granger, longtime music follower, new to the podcast, but 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.160 really love it. I don't remember the episode number, but 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.320 you had a Mennonite gentleman on there, and you guys 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:47.400 were discussing using firearms for protection. I'll preface my question 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.400 by stating that I am a firm believer in the 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.200 right to bear arms, as I believe it is necessary 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.240 for the protection of innocent life here on earth. I 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.319 feel like your conversation with that gentleman ended too soon, 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.440 and basically what I gather from his perspective is that 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.040 he believes you don't need a gun for protection if 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.800 you trust God. I'm curious to hear your thoughts about 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.160 that stance. Personally, I don't agree, because by that logic, 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.400 nobody who has faith in God should ever wear a 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.679 seat belt on a fighter fire extinguisher, or wear a 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.760 harness and a tree stand, et cetera. I just don't 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.920 see how being cautious and prepared could mean you are 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.280 lacking faith. Just curious about your further thoughts on this topic. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.800 Thank you, Garrett. Yeah, man, I appreciate you. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.120 Garrett. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.160 You're talking about my buddy Marv, and love Marv to death. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.520 He's we met on this podcast. We met as he 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.960 was a listener to it, and then we became friends. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:44.040 He's a dear brother in Christ. And then eventually he 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.920 was a guest on the podcast. And one of the questions, 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:54.040 you know, Mennonites believe in gosh ly, what is that? 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.640 What is that doctrine? It is the non aggression, the 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.240 doctrine of non aggression. And I think there's a I've 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.560 heard that, Yeah, it's you didn't know that. So it's basically, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.680 I don't want to say the word pacifist. The people 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.000 they just they believe they lean more on the turn 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:18.360 your cheek side of Jesus and. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.400 Less on the less on the turn over the tables. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.160 Yeah. Yeah, And it's it's actually funny you say that 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:27.040 because those are the two extremes, and I believe if 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.440 you lean on either extreme, you can't be correct. You 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.960 can't pin Jesus on the flipping the table guy or 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.520 the we only turn the other cheek guy. Because you know, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:42.680 it's interesting when when the when the Jews and it 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.839 came to arrest him in the Romans, they came to 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.200 arrest him in the garden, he spoke a word and 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.320 they fell to the ground. You know, he he defended 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.360 the disciples in a way with just his voice. Just 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:00.160 his voice knocked him to the ground. So it's interesting 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.560 to look at it in that perspective. I think, I 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.920 think here's where I land on this. And Garrett, I 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.200 hope you hear my heart on this. I have nothing 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.640 wrong with the second second Amendment, and neither does Marv. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.400 You first want to say that like the guy loves 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.720 to hunt, and I don't think there's anything I don't 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.520 think there's anything wrong with desiring to protect you innocent 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.520 life in your family. I think that is something that's 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.920 God given. I think that's something that's inside of God 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.960 has given that to all men, a desire to protect 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.160 and and so there is a nuance to this that 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.200 we have to dive into. And so I want to 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.480 we should test our hearts to see are we approaching 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.080 this with the Clint Eastwood mentality, come on, punk, make 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:50.200 my day, or are we saying my last resort in 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.520 life is to use deadly force. It's a last thing 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.280 I want to do. I will protect my family from 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.240 from someone, just just as I would protect to my 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.840 immediate family from a sibling that comes home drunk and 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.760 starts beating on his mom, like I'm gonna stop him 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:12.680 with force. Marv. Part of Marv's argument on this was, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.960 and I think it's right. It's like, look, if I'm 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.960 carrying a gun with me all the time, then I 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.600 could be tempted to lean to the side of me 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.040 that says, come on, punk, make my day. I could 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.840 be tempted to use it out of anger, which is 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:30.760 a sin of ours, to be aggressive to a point 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.880 of I want to fight you because I want to 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.080 prove that I'm right, or prove that I'm stronger a 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.800 prove that I'm a better protector. Jesus would have never 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.520 done that. Jesus was perfect and sinless, and so he 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:48.040 would have never used it in that way. But I think, Garrett, 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.200 there's a nuance to this, and I think it's a 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.960 category error to say, well, then we shouldn't wear a seatbelt, 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.360 or we shouldn't carry a fire extinguisher, or we shouldn't 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.400 wear a harness and a tree stand. I think that's 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:05.160 a category error because killing someone has way more consequences 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.840 than putting out a fire with a fire extinguisher, or 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.080 you know what I mean. So you don't want to 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:12.920 be wrong about that. You don't you don't want to 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.080 be shoot somebody between the eyes because they're on your 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.480 front lawn and you did it at a mistake, or 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.160 or they were somebody's son that was having a bad 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.240 day with alcohol and you just shot them between the 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.440 eyes and killed them to prove a point that you're 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.800 gonna protect your family. I think there's a danger in 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.480 that and the other thing we have to bring up 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.240 before then I'll let you guys talk. We have to 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.560 bring up. We're talking about something that is so rare. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.840 The instance you have to pull the trigger on a 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.640 gun to protect your family. I've never met anyone that's 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.400 had to do that. I'm sure it happens, but it 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:52.000 is the far extreme case. It's a it's a one 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.040 in a million chance. And so do we do we 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.160 base all of our thinking on a one and a 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.960 million chants or do we want to actually think through 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.800 it and go, Look, I'm not the flip the tables Jesus. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.000 I'm not only to flip the table, Jesus. I'm not 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.880 only to turn your other cheek Jesus. In fact, I'm 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.800 not Jesus at all. And I have a tendency to sin, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.640 and part of that sin is aggression. So I want 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.479 to do all I can to protect that aggression. Let 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.480 me let you guys dive in, and then you guys, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.480 I want to see some comments on here too, because 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.960 this is a this is a very nuanced question. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.760 Well, I tell you, I just firmly believe Jesus wants 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.000 me to have an ar fifteen brother. I just don't 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:36.600 see any way around it. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.679 Right, That's the best I can get you in the 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.160 camera too, right here. So it's just the only adswer. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:44.919 You know. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:50.160 I'm kind of in between in some of that and 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.440 and the fact I carry, but I've never I also 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.240 did all the training to actually I've done training twice. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.920 That is, you know, never pull. It was the whole 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.120 never point at anything that you don't intend to kill. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.119 Never pull your gun if you don't intend to use it. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:11.399 So that's always been it's there in the in the 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:19.240 extreme that that I haven't and I wasn't in a 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.879 situation that I wish I would have, you know, I 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.439 think it's it's very different for every person. If you 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.720 are a person who does lean into Okay, I lose 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.679 control when I get angry, or I you know, I 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:36.800 jump to an extreme when I get upset. Yeah, it's 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.920 just like being that person owning a gun. You should 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.040 be a responsible gun owner. It's the ones who are 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.520 irresponsible are the ones who make all the responsible ones 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.400 look bad, right, and and and lead to the conversation 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.080 of well, you know, nobody should or we should have 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.119 a band on X, Y and Z, And that's not 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.800 what this podcast is about. But what my point is 0:18:55.800 --> 0:19:00.480 is that you need to be real and judge yourself 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:05.399 very honestly. If you are an extreme. It doesn't have 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.480 to be with a gun it could be with something broke, 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.760 you knock something over broke. Did you get very upset 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.639 when you stub your toe? What do you do? You know, 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.280 are you are the one who cusses everybody that you see, 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.840 or are you sit down and pray over it and 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.760 and hope that you didn't break your toe? Where do 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.800 you land? That kind of that kind of should help 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.879 you maybe a little bit dictate what you should do 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.080 about carrying every day. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.960 What you got on is, Chris, you know, it's a 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:37.399 I've done training and as ant Man mentioned, it's you know, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.080 you pull that gun up and you pointed at someone. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.159 Through my training. Anyway, you're pulling the trigger. You're not 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.679 pulling it up and pointing it to scare or anything 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.400 like that, and you're shooting to kill. You're you're shooting 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:56.160 for center mass, right between the chest bone. So, man, 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:00.439 my prayer every morning, not that I live the streets 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.800 or anything like that. Sounds really dangerous. 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.040 Thanks in your two wheel drive. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.320 You gotta get out of that neighborhood, pow uh. But 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.400 my prayer every morning is I don't have to use 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:14.600 that weapon. That's the last thing. I mean. There's all 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:16.560