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Speaker 1: live again. Second time in a row we've done a

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Speaker 1: live podcast. So part of you will listen to it

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Speaker 1: it when it comes out on Monday. I got a

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Speaker 1: of people. Ant Man producing the show, and I got

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Speaker 1: Chris Lee, the Mighty Chris with the big arms. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a mind, he's got the wide mic,

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Speaker 1: but he's here just to make sure things. You know,

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Speaker 1: why he has big guns. And then we're coming this.

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Speaker 1: also going to talk about ee E Day, which, as

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Speaker 1: we are recording this live, is Manyana. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really fun day. We've got a mud bog, two

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Speaker 1: mud bogs in fact, a dot track which is street

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Speaker 1: legal trucks and UTVs, and then a big boy track

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Speaker 1: for the unlimited class I E. Monster trucks.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't there going to be a third one?

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Speaker 1: Well, there's three categories, two tracks. What were you thinking?

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Speaker 2: Kids track?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and then we will have kids. If

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Speaker 1: you're listening, We're going to do a called power Wheel

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Speaker 1: Race in between the two tracks. That's awesome. Maverick will

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Speaker 1: be entering in that. I'm gonna be racing you, racing Chris.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm staying far far away.

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Speaker 1: Is your truck your truck four will drive? It? Is not? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Is your truck four will drive in?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Both of y'all got the white trucks.

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Speaker 2: I know, okay, the don't give me some This has

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Speaker 2: been a topic in our house all the way up

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Speaker 2: to yesterday. Literally, I have gone to the dealership to

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Speaker 2: trade in my truck because I wanted a four by four.

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Speaker 2: When I bought it in twenty twenty, none were available. Remember,

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Speaker 2: everything was short. But I needed a new car, okay,

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Speaker 2: and so I bought the one I have, And now

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Speaker 2: they're three times as much just for four wheel drive.

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Speaker 1: Yea.

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Speaker 2: I bought that truck for maybe thirty thousand a four

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Speaker 2: by four right now? Brand new?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, sixty grand? Okay, Well maybe y'all could use

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Speaker 1: the old seventy seven i've got Okay, Okay, you trust

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Speaker 1: us with that? Yes, I don't trust myself with it.

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Speaker 1: So could we go see the guys at Ege Apparel?

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Speaker 1: We can assume we should be able to go. Oh,

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Speaker 1: there they are right there. What's up, fellas? Y'all getting ready?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 5: My question is to Chris and everybody else that doesn't

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Speaker 4: Is that a dumb question?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Tyler, don't get this. This podcast is about answering questions

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Speaker 2: for the fans, not for me explaining why I don't

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Speaker 1: All right, city city boys. It's for city boys. Yeah, Tyler,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get your your red Ford wet.

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Speaker 4: I mean I pulled you out yesterday.

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Speaker 1: He did, so we didn't have the hubs walked in.

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Speaker 1: So do we do? We have Justin there with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Is he out working on the truck. He's working on

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Speaker 1: So we have Justin Hildebrant, who is a big time

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Speaker 1: YouTuber and he does this stuff. He actually told us

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Speaker 1: what he's talking about. Yee Day is open to the

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Speaker 1: and really shoot for you know, I hope decades, Lord Willing,

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Speaker 1: and bring a pickup truck that's four wheel drive and

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Speaker 1: put it in the mud and celebrate with us.

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Speaker 2: I'll park over there with Chris. I guess.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand, Like I know, it's cool to have

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Speaker 4: It's no, no, no, no, Chris, you don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Aside from hold up, Chris, don't have headphones on.

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Speaker 3: Chris speaking over you Smith boys again, how does it

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Speaker 3: feel you do it to me? You do it to

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Speaker 2: Nothing over here.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain what Tyler saying. Go ahead to the.

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Speaker 4: City boy, and he's never been in the mud, so

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Speaker 4: he doesn't need a pit.

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Speaker 1: He said, you're a city boy, and you don't. You've

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Speaker 1: never been in the mud, so you don't need a

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Speaker 3: It's right, Okay, I never claimed to be a country

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Speaker 3: boy by any means. But if I'm not, if my

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Speaker 3: like I'm not getting stuck in the mud taking my

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Speaker 3: son to baseball practice, right, So what's the point of

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Speaker 3: having the four wheel drive? I don't live up north

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Speaker 3: where there's snow during the winter. So unless you live

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Speaker 3: on a farm, what's the purpose. Or you're doing this

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Speaker 3: mud bogging thing, what's the purpose of having it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good argument. You have to love you

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Speaker 1: have to love the fun of mudding, I guess. Or

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Speaker 1: you have to be going to the deer blind that's

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Speaker 1: not the only two reasons. But but if you're taking

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Speaker 1: you're gonna save a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: What if it's a wet day at the baseball park? See,

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Speaker 2: that's what I always think of. What is Yeah, what

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Speaker 3: Been raining, like it's about to this weekend and it's

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Speaker 3: probably gonna get rained out. But what I don't get.

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Speaker 3: What I don't get is the and I really get

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Speaker 3: it from these Smith brothers. Here is the condescending tone,

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Speaker 3: the let down when you when you state that you

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Speaker 3: don't have And I get this not just from you guys,

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Speaker 3: but from other people. It's like, oh, you don't have

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Speaker 3: a four wheel drive. Oh, I guess we see who's

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Speaker 3: running that family, right.

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Speaker 1: Parker doesn't have a four wheel drive either. Parker's driving

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Speaker 1: Dad's old truck, not not the old the seventy four

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Speaker 1: old truck, but the other old truck, the uh, the

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Speaker 1: one that was sitting at at Moms forever. And Parker's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm want to save some money and drive that.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, he's the smartest of everyone here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only.

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Speaker 6: Reason to have four wheel drive is so you can

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Speaker 6: tell people you have four wheel drive.

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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, be fair again.

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Speaker 4: I just pulled Granger out yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I literally pulled out the forklift that somebody drove in

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Speaker 5: the grass that's not supposed to be in the grass

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Speaker 5: and pulled them.

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Speaker 4: Out three days ago.

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Speaker 5: So it's like, we like to Chris's point, Yeah, Chris,

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Speaker 5: the condescending thing, Like I get it, Like if you're

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Speaker 5: never if you're always on the pavement, two will droves fine.

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Speaker 5: But being out on the farm, living on a farm,

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Speaker 5: at the ranch, going hunting on Granger, so you just

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Speaker 5: have to have a four by four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you guys could join in on this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Anyone could comment and give us a good reason why

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Speaker 1: you need a four wheel drive I think there's I

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Speaker 1: think they're personally are There are many and I think

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Speaker 1: Parker has a point as well. So Crystal says, my

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Speaker 1: husband's dream truck was a ninety five to two thousand

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Speaker 1: and Ford F three fifty super duty Diesel four by

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Speaker 1: we bought one. Okay, we bought one without the four

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Speaker 1: with a Texas flag on the tailgate, he still complains

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Speaker 1: about not having four wheel drive.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have no need for one, and I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what it came in Andy was the

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Speaker 1: Truck the ice the ice storm was huge, and we

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Speaker 1: have you know, usually once a year in Texas you're

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Speaker 1: going to need a four wheel drive. I spent a

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Speaker 1: when I had that Ford. Adam says, let's hear what

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Speaker 1: Earl Dibblis Junior would say about all this. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I think Adam Earl would say, if you're going

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Speaker 1: to drive a truck, I mean, why are you even

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Speaker 1: gonna get no two wheel drive and doesn't even make

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Speaker 1: no sense, just going tire spinning, spinning, spinning, like yet,

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Speaker 1: I don't even like them too. Will drive bowler drives

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Speaker 1: the only way to go for a country boys, That's

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Speaker 1: what I think. That's what he would say. Probably he

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Speaker 1: said that before, right, Yeah, so guys, uh, before we

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Speaker 1: let you go, what we know about tomorrow? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: head up there just a little bit to get you guys,

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Speaker 1: or to to see if we can get some water

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Speaker 1: from the big track to the little track. But what

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Speaker 1: else should we know about ye day tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: Don't show up if you don't have a ticket. I

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Speaker 4: think we still have tickets available today. But it's a

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Speaker 4: pretty pretty uh. You won't let you won't be let

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Speaker 4: So go get a ticket now.

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Speaker 5: We still have some available. There's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 5: of fun. Next year, we'll probably do a Saturday. I

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Speaker 5: think the only reason we did Friday this year was

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Speaker 5: because Granger, you're leaving the some other country or state

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Speaker 5: or something again to go speak.

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Speaker 1: That's what I do. Okay, we got.

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Speaker 6: Trucks, we got beer, we got the mud, bogs being

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Speaker 6: worked on right now. This is the most insane mud

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Speaker 6: bog I've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: They're like four or five feet deep.

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Speaker 6: There's literally like half a million dollar machinery like digging

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Speaker 6: into the mud making sure that it's like the perfect

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Speaker 6: certain trucks get far enough but then get stuck at

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Speaker 6: certain points. We have like redneck scientists out there perfecting it.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be like one of the greatest days in

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Speaker 1: silent because I don't blame them if they are and.

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Speaker 2: Know there are some comments? Can we take a break?

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Speaker 1: REQUI yeah, let's take are.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: You said you have some comments on here?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have. So, uh, there's a couple of I

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Speaker 2: plan on Okay.

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Speaker 1: Brandon says, I'm twenty. I plan to get my concealed

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Speaker 1: carry permit after college. I strongly believe in self defense,

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Speaker 1: and I know that I'd only use it if I

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Speaker 1: am in a life or death situation. Yeah, it's good,

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Speaker 1: Michelle says, thank you for speaking on this today. Love

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Y'all are great, God bless, Michelle says, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not offering my opinion. I don't blame

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Speaker 1: me at all. Bruce says, I don't know how this

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Speaker 1: begins something we should be prepared to give up if

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Speaker 1: the government bans guns.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, there's the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. One way I thought about it is it's

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Speaker 1: a privilege that is Christians we can use. I think

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Speaker 1: he believes guns. However, can you go back one more

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Speaker 1: time yet? However, I think it would be something we

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Speaker 1: should be prepared to give up if the government bans guns,

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Speaker 1: seeking to be subject to government, as Romans thirteen talks about.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. So that's not where I thought he

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Speaker 1: was going. I thought he was going to say, we

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Speaker 1: need to be ready when the government comes, so we

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Speaker 1: keep them. But he's saying, yeah, we could use them.

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Speaker 1: It's a privilege we have if the government comes, we

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Speaker 1: should be ready to give him up. Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Andrea says, I teach CPO classes, and we always teach

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Speaker 1: our students that it is a tool of last resort.

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Speaker 1: We always go through the pyramid of the escalation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Amen, I've done that class. As well. And then here's

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Speaker 1: Bruce again in the New Testament.

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Speaker 2: Believe, I believe it's one of the apostles.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's one of the apostles that commands a

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Speaker 1: congregation for joyfully accepting the seizure of their property, realizing

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Speaker 1: that everything on earth is temporal. You have to remember, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: I mean these apostles the time that early church, the

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Speaker 1: first century, what was constant oppression. And Jesus think about this, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Jesus never rebuked a soldier for being a soldier. So

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Speaker 1: you could look at that a couple of different ways. But

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Speaker 1: he never when the Roman soldiers came in different instances

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Speaker 1: and said what should we do to be saved? Jesus

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Speaker 1: never said stop being a soldier. Put down your guns,

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Speaker 1: which would would have been swords, obviously, put down your weapons,

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Speaker 1: and don't be a soldier anymore. And John the Baptist

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Speaker 1: same when he encountered these centurions. He never once said,

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Speaker 1: stop being a soldier. That is a sin. Don't be

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Speaker 1: a soldier. Put down your swords, you infidels. You never

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Speaker 1: said that. You brought up another one. Brian says, I

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Speaker 1: am a former l e O and marine and I

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Speaker 1: understand a gun as a tool, and like any other tool,

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Speaker 1: it requires training for proper use. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: have to take another life, but I do want to

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Speaker 1: protect life. Yeah, amen, Brian, Yeah, we are here to

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Speaker 1: UH as men. Part of part of what we do

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Speaker 1: is we want to protect and make.

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Speaker 2: Prosper you know, and.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think anyone disagrees that at the

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Speaker 1: hands of life and death, especially with a child or

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Speaker 1: a and someone that's can't defend themselves as much, you

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Speaker 1: will step in between the aggressor and the victim. You

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Speaker 1: will step in between it and stop whatever's happening.

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Speaker 3: Again, I think the gray area that's so interesting to me,

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Speaker 3: and I think about this often very circumstantial. So someone

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Speaker 3: comes into your house, they're wielding a weapon, that's.

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Speaker 2: Pretty cut and dry.

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Speaker 3: It's like they got to be done with, you got

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Speaker 3: to get rid of, or a school. Okay, but someone

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Speaker 3: breaks into your house. Let's just say a teenager, one

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Speaker 3: hundred and one hundred and seventy five pound teenager comes

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Speaker 3: in unarmed.

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Speaker 2: What do you do at that point?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Is it do I use my martial arts stuff on them?

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Speaker 3: Do I start shooting? Do I point try to get.

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Speaker 2: Him to leave. You know, what's the how do you react.

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Speaker 3: In that gray area there? And that's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like what I told Marv when he was

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, I said, I've told Amber before, I'm

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Speaker 1: shooting all the knee caps out and then I'm taking

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Speaker 1: my belt off as a tourniquet and preaching the gospel

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Speaker 1: to him and Marv Marv laughed, and he's like, I

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Speaker 1: think I would do the same thing. He's like, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I would trust myself. So that I think that's

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Speaker 1: what it comes down to, is that teenager comes in

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have any kind of deadly weapon, but

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Speaker 1: say he's on drugs and he's wanting to hurt. He's

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Speaker 1: wanting to rape your daughter, you know. And so I

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Speaker 1: don't know if my first reaction isn't I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to throw a grenade into his mouth, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know if that's my first reaction, because

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Speaker 1: it's impossible to know how we react. But whenever you

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Speaker 1: have accessible to you, you will use right. These are

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Speaker 1: all quotquestions. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer,

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Speaker 1: but These are questions we need to really think about,

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Speaker 1: and we need to think about why we're asking the

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Speaker 1: question once again? Is it a come on punk, make

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Speaker 1: my day. Let me show you who I am. I

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Speaker 1: protect my family at all ends. Or is it I

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Speaker 1: want to love and protect and preserve life and I

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Speaker 1: want as many people saved as possible. Is that your desire?

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Speaker 1: Or is it you step on my grass I blow

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Speaker 1: your brains out? This is interesting? Are we chewing up

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Speaker 1: too much time on one topic? Thanks a lot more.

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Speaker 2: There is a there's a comment from on instagram from

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Speaker 2: from Costa sixty three. You should never carry just to

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Speaker 2: go out to find a situation to put yourself in.

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Speaker 2: It should only be pulled off a threat. Is there

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Speaker 2: pulled off a threat? Is there better to retreat than

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Speaker 2: running to unless you truly needed?

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Speaker 1: Okay, see it's hard. It's hard reading questions like that,

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Speaker 1: is right? Yeah, that's a good point. Are you wearing

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Speaker 1: a red bandana and going into the crips neighborhood?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Is that you? We need to test ourselves in these

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Speaker 1: kind of ways. Are what are we getting ourselves in? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You want some other comments? People ask a few things?

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Speaker 1: We should I mean yeah, another question.

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Speaker 2: Well, there are just other comments that have come in,

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Speaker 2: not about the comic.

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Speaker 1: Marian says, Hey, Granger, We're in London, Ontario, and Amber

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Speaker 1: just spoke and our Amber has spoke at would love

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Speaker 1: to see her, only ninety minutes from me. And I'm

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Speaker 1: and what is she saying? Winds around Ontario, Canada? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Is Amber? I don't know? Is Amber gone? I don't

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Speaker 1: think Amber's gone there yet. I think she's has she

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Speaker 1: got she's going there tomorrow. Actually really think she's going

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Speaker 1: in there tomorrow. Okay, yeah, and then I.

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Speaker 3: Think she's downstairs.

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Speaker 1: Now she's down there.

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Speaker 2: I think I saw.

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Speaker 1: Katie says, are you planning to see George Draydon June?

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Speaker 1: I am, I'm not Katie, I'm not Amana says Granger.

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Speaker 1: How's your family doing?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Lovey all? So they're all great, busy, busy, busy. We've

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Speaker 1: got ee day tomorrow, so everybody's kind of prepping for that.

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Speaker 1: Plus Amber's going somewhere Canada, I think obviously. Anna says,

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Speaker 1: I really love that your episodes every Monday. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: sharing them. Yeah, thank you. Anna. Caleb says, Hey Grange,

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Speaker 1: been dating my girlfriend for three and a half years.

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Speaker 1: I'm eighteen. My parents are super overprotective even with my

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Speaker 1: everyday life. It's to the point where it makes me

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Speaker 1: put up a wall from them. Any advice, Yeah, Caleb,

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Speaker 1: that means you've been dating this girl since you're in

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Speaker 1: your you know, fourteen and a half years old, and

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Speaker 1: your your parents. I think all of us either have

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Speaker 1: a fourteen year old or or have had one, or

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Speaker 1: almost have a fourteen year old in this room right now.

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Speaker 1: And so when you say your parents are putting you

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Speaker 1: know they're over protective. Great, great, Like shouldn't parents want

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Speaker 1: at all costs to protect now? The thing is you're

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Speaker 1: right at the end of their jurisdiction over your life.

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Speaker 1: You're most likely going to leave here pretty soon, and

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Speaker 1: you could do whatever you want. But while you're still

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Speaker 1: under their roof, as the old saying goes, I would say,

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Speaker 1: just honoring them, loving them, understanding that they truly want

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Speaker 1: what's best for you. They don't want to overpower you

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Speaker 1: and overprotect you because of they have some kind of

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Speaker 1: motive for theirselves, some selfish motive. They probably see something

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Speaker 1: in this girl. Since you've been dating since you're fourteen

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Speaker 1: and a half years old, they probably see something that

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Speaker 1: just as simple as they are. They think she's moving

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Speaker 1: a little too fast, and they might like her, but

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Speaker 1: they're wondering if you're going to give up all of

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Speaker 1: your teenage years for her and not just be a

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Speaker 1: teenage boy for once, because you haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: do that. Maybe the worry is as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: And so that comes across as overprotective guys.

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Speaker 2: What do you all got to go.

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Speaker 3: In a world full of parents that I believe do

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Speaker 3: not care enough and do not put enough restrictions on

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Speaker 3: their kids. Keep in mind, I grew up very very

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Speaker 3: old school raised by my biological grandparents, and they knew

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Speaker 3: exactly what I was doing, when I was doing it,

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Speaker 3: where I was doing it. So in this world, I

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Speaker 3: think having parents like that is a real blessing. It's

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Speaker 3: not going to make sense to you at eighteen right now,

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Speaker 3: because you're at that age where you want to be free,

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Speaker 3: you want to have no chains attached to you. But

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Speaker 3: it's going to make sense one of these days, I

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Speaker 3: promise you. I was questioning those parental decisions when I

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Speaker 3: was your age, and now having a couple of teenagers.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling them the same thing. Believe me, this is

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Speaker 3: going to make sense to you one of these days.

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Speaker 3: We're trying to shape you into being a good human.

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Speaker 3: And hang in there. It sounds like you got some

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Speaker 3: good folks. And as long as they're not beating you

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Speaker 3: too much, you know you're you're okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The cool thing about this live podcast is Chris

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Speaker 1: We're we're we're not speaking to an email. We're speaking

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Speaker 1: to him. He's listening right now, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's really cool, right. I love that aspect.

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Speaker 1: Of this live, this live answering questions. Should we go

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Speaker 1: back to the email speaking of or You've got.

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Speaker 2: More in a couple more comments here, uh this yee

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Speaker 2: day tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Fine wife bought me a ticket to celebrate my birthday.

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Speaker 1: Ee y day, Marcus my man, I will I will

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow, buddy awesome And Nora six three six

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Speaker 1: says saying hello from Fort Worth, Texas. Love genuine you

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Speaker 1: are in your podcast. Thank you, no, thank you, Susan

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Speaker 1: says Granger. How could we best pray for you and

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Speaker 1: your family and this season of life. That's a great question,

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Speaker 1: and it you know, it changes, I would say right

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Speaker 1: now I'm in a a little bit of a busy season,

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Speaker 1: just coming back from Honduras and going heading into EED

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Speaker 1: Day tomorrow preaching in uh Costa, Mesa, CALIFORNI yes Sunday,

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Speaker 1: delivering a message on Wednesday in Albuquerque, and then another

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Speaker 1: message on Friday in Bismarck, North Dakota. So all of

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Speaker 1: those messages require time, research, reading, writing seminary on top

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Speaker 1: of that. So if you just pray for endurance through

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Speaker 1: the season. And I'm trying to be better about saying

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Speaker 1: no to things, I just I thought I was getting

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Speaker 1: better at saying no to things, and even now I'm

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Speaker 1: still struggling a little bit because then another message will

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Speaker 1: come in and somebody invites me to their thing, and

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Speaker 1: I just go, oh, I really like this person, I

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Speaker 1: respect them, or I would love to be part of this,

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Speaker 1: and I say yes, and then it just fills up, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, the saying. And we probably said it before, but

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Speaker 2: is that you do say no to things when you

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Speaker 2: say yes to things?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you.

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Speaker 2: Say yes to something, you say no to something else.

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Speaker 2: Just pick which one you want to say no to.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. I needed to hear that in I

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Speaker 1: needed to hear that. Yeah, like right out, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: an interview. It's ten thirty six, yeah, Central time. Right

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Speaker 1: now as we recorded, I'm doing an interview at eleven.

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Speaker 2: You jumping from this into an interview.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's one great memory from your recent mission? Be grateful?

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Speaker 1: Says you know. This is a second time in just

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Speaker 1: a few months I've done some kind of mission in

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Speaker 1: Central America, and I want to say I've seen or

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Speaker 1: Latin America. I should say, I have seen a joy

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Speaker 1: in these people, and it is it shouldn't be thought

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Speaker 1: of as Americans that we need to go and help

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Speaker 1: them because their life is struggling in some way, you know, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they they don't have what we have, we should help them.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, I've spent a significant amount of time recently

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Speaker 1: with these with people from these different countries, and they're

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Speaker 1: not hurting for Joel, our happiness, our peace or rest

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Speaker 1: like we are in the United States. And they don't

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Speaker 1: have what we have material wise, but they don't need it.

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Speaker 1: And so I think I learned those lessons.

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Speaker 2: Let's say it's probably a bigger learning lesson for you.

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Speaker 2: On those trips. You don't have Instagram at the time.

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Speaker 2: They don't either and there's more joy. There's no emails

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Speaker 2: flying in and they have joy.

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Speaker 1: And one of the countries I've been to recently is

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Speaker 1: all communists, and so they definitely don't have anything material

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Speaker 1: that we have, especially food and medicine things like that.

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Speaker 1: But really they're happy. They don't need what we think

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Speaker 1: we need. But I'm not going. The reason I go

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Speaker 1: to these places is to share the gospel. That's what

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Speaker 1: we all need collectively, is all of us image bearers

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Speaker 1: of God need the gospel, and we need leaders to

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Speaker 1: teach the gospel. And so we go to support the

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Speaker 1: leaders and provide the leaders with the resources or information

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Speaker 1: or just encouragement that they might need, so that these

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Speaker 1: leaders in these different regions can help teach each other.

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Speaker 1: That's really the what it comes down to.

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Speaker 2: Hit an email.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this email here, how we doing on time? Good

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Speaker 1: on cameras? From anonymous? It says, Hey, Granger, I want

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Speaker 1: to remain anonymous. I'm a teenager who lives in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I'm homeschooled, and at the moment, I'm doing homeschool most

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Speaker 1: of the time. I've been struggling with friendship issues in

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Speaker 1: my past. I hung out with a really bad crew

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Speaker 1: who drank, smoked, et cetera. I want friends who love Jesus.

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Speaker 1: But at the church I attend with my family, there

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Speaker 1: seems to be a bunch of surface level people. I've

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Speaker 1: been putting myself out there, only to seemingly get rejected

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Speaker 1: or get left in a month's time. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to act high and mighty, but I also want those

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Speaker 1: iron sharpens iron friends. In the past, I've been taken

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Speaker 1: advantage of and drained, and I'm going through a really

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Speaker 1: hard time and I just want to be poured into.

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Speaker 1: What would you do to make more friends that are solid?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for time of your podcast. Oh boy, this

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Speaker 1: is a great question, but it's very difficult because of

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Speaker 1: the information I'm lacking. I don't know how old you are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what town you're in. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's a rural town with fifty people or if

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Speaker 1: you're in a city. I don't know if you're going

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Speaker 1: to the only church in town. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. This was one of these questions.

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Speaker 1: It just requires more. But I do want to say

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Speaker 1: that you're right in needing those those core relationships. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate Daniel one recently, and something that's so evident in

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Speaker 1: Daniel as he was about, we believe, about fourteen years old,

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Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen, when he was exiled to Babylon, and

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Speaker 1: he had three godly friends with him, and to collectively

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Speaker 1: those four boys their faithfulness changed the entire kingdom and

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Speaker 1: rout the Bible. We see continually this idea that you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be alone, you should do it together, you should

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Speaker 1: do it in community, you should do it with your

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Speaker 1: fellow brothers and sisters. In fact, it's like you can't

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Speaker 1: do it alone. Do not do it alone. These are

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Speaker 1: the commands given for us. And so Anonymous, you're right

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Speaker 1: in thinking, man, I need that iron sharpens iron kind

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Speaker 1: of friend. And without me knowing exactly the situation, it's

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Speaker 1: hard for me just to tell you how to find

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Speaker 1: a friend. But I would say that there could be

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Speaker 1: other churches. Either there's a couple of things going on here.

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Speaker 1: Either you really are at a bad church with a

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Speaker 1: bunch of service level people, or you're also just not

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Speaker 1: seeing yourself as that same hypocrite. The church is full

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Speaker 1: of hypocrites. But technically the Christians are the only ones

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Speaker 1: in the world that should be able to admit wholeheartedly

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Speaker 1: that they are in fact a hypocrite themselves. Every human's hypocrite.

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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe that's part of this, as you're just

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Speaker 1: not seeing yourself for who you are, anonymous that you

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Speaker 1: are service level, you are a hypocrite, and go into

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Speaker 1: it with more humility. Or I might be totally wrong

756
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Speaker 1: and you might actually be at a bad church and

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Speaker 1: there is another church down the road that you could

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Speaker 1: find these iron sharp and iron iron sharpend's iron friends

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Speaker 1: a lot of times too. I I say, follow your hobbies.

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Speaker 1: So if you if you love, if you love chess,

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Speaker 1: find a chess team you know and and meet those

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Speaker 1: core people in the chess group.

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Speaker 2: Or if you love baseball, do that.

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Speaker 1: If you love bowling, go to the bowling league and

765
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Speaker 1: you'll find these people that love what you love. Once again,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's exactly what he's asking. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's saying that I need someone from

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Speaker 1: the church, and so I would say, there might be

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Speaker 1: other churches out there. What do you guys got.

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Speaker 3: I think, first and foremost good for you for holding

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Speaker 3: your standards of what a what you looking for in

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Speaker 3: a friend. I think that's that's really awesome you could.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like you're easily able to identify the wolves

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Speaker 3: in the herd of sheep. Second, I would encourage you

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Speaker 3: to maybe shrink your focus a little bit to finding

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Speaker 3: one good friend that's good, one good friend that you

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Speaker 3: can that you can rely on, and you know, iron

778
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Speaker 3: sharpens iron, make each other, you know, accountable to being

779
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Speaker 3: better believers is so important. I'll take one good friend

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Speaker 3: over five flaky friends that could possibly be in a

781
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Speaker 3: bad influence any day of the week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. He's he's talking about, Hey, I've been

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Speaker 1: with this bad crew who drank and smoked. So I

784
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Speaker 1: don't want to leave that part out in my in

785
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Speaker 1: my answer that this guy actually is looking for, yeah,

786
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Speaker 1: possibly one good friend to help sharpen him a bit.

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Speaker 1: So that's a good question. I'm going to tell you

788
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Speaker 1: guys about Songfinch. Have you heard about this same man?

789
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Speaker 2: I have you sent me some info about it the

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Speaker 2: other day? And Mother's Day is coming up now.

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Speaker 1: So there is this company called Songfinch and they sponsored

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Speaker 1: this podcast and they will make a song for you.

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Speaker 1: They'll write a song for you and whatever situation that

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Speaker 1: you're in, and it's really cool. Could you could do

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Speaker 1: it for Mother's Day, like you said, you could do

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Speaker 1: it for a birthday. You could probably do it for

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Speaker 1: your wife. Do you have any idea who you will

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Speaker 1: do it for? Because you're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: This, I am, yeah, for Mother's Day and I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to probably for my wife from the girls.

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Speaker 1: So song Fins let you create an original, radio quality

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Speaker 1: You just tell them who the song is for, what

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Speaker 1: your original song in just four to seven days. And

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Speaker 1: then once you get that, you could you could change

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Speaker 1: it and kind of tweak it how you want. You

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Speaker 1: could even get a vinyl record of your song. In

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Speaker 1: that part, Yeah, and you could put it just on Spotify,

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Speaker 1: which is cool. They've done this over three hundred and

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Speaker 1: So with all you know, graduation coming up, Father's Day,

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Speaker 1: Mother's Day, a wedding, it's a great way to show

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Speaker 1: some love. They asked me if they could do it

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Speaker 1: for me, and I said, no, it doesn't mean anything

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Speaker 1: to anyone in my life to have a song, because

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Speaker 1: that's just what I've always done. Why, I said, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to find someone else, and so that's why

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Speaker 1: I went to you. Yeah, because we're gonna We're gonna

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Speaker 1: away who it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what I want to I want to ask

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Speaker 2: you to though, is what genre should I do it?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got yeah pop Mother's Day song is there?

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Speaker 1: In sync in sync style.

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Speaker 3: Man Go Go nineties, East Coast, West Coast, Gangster Right.

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Speaker 1: So, for a limited time, song Finch is letting our

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Speaker 1: for free. That's a fifty dollars value. Again, my U

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Speaker 1: slash Granger.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't wait to come back. Hopefully on the

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Speaker 2: next live we do perfect and I'll bring it in

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Speaker 2: on that. We've got a few more before we have

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Speaker 2: to uh, before we have to run. But there is

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Speaker 2: here's a couple that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Catherine, says head granger. I'm curious if you

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Speaker 1: have plans to visit SLC. That is the good old

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. I'd love for you to attend one

853
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Speaker 1: of our sermons. But also I love to attend one

854
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Speaker 1: of your sermons. But also missed your meet and greet

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Speaker 1: at Salt Lake City last year. Yeah, absolutely, Catherine. I

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Speaker 1: I don't have any immediate plans to go to Salt Lake,

857
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Speaker 1: but but I do love that city.

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Speaker 2: So place people can book if they wanted to book you.

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Speaker 1: Please don't Okay, sorry, I just need to say no more.

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. It's okay, Yeah, grangersmith dot com. There is

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Speaker 1: a there's a contact, there's a way to book me.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Francisca Francesca, how do you say that?

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Speaker 2: Probably Francesca.

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Speaker 1: Francesca says, do you think X's can be friends or

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Speaker 1: possibly do business together in the future relationship was kind

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Speaker 1: of toxic? No, I mean, do I think you can't?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: But do I advise it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Not if it was a toxic relationship, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to do business together. I'm currently sixteen. New comment, currently sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm personally glad with the restrictions. Oh this is the

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Speaker 1: right is the same guy?

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Speaker 2: I think it's just a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm personally glad that the restrictions I had as

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Speaker 1: a kid. Seeing people are in high school and it's

878
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Speaker 1: just crazy here. Yeah, you're gonna look back, y'all teenagers

879
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: that are watching right now, You're gonna look back in life,

880
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna be You're gonna be thankful for the

881
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Speaker 1: parents that had restrictions on you, for the restrictions they

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Speaker 1: put on you, as as opposed to being thankful that

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Speaker 1: they let you do whatever you want. It's always the

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Speaker 1: other way. People always respect their parents for the discipline

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Speaker 1: they gave them and not for the freedom they gave them.

886
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Speaker 1: As a kid. Hey, Graingeer. This is conservative American, conserve American. Hey, Grangeer,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions I would love to

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Speaker 1: pick your brain on, but the one I would love

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Speaker 1: your perspective on is the current state of the church

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Speaker 1: in America right now. Yeah, I mean, that's it's a

891
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Speaker 1: it's it's a broad question. God God preserves his church,

892
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Speaker 1: so we got to start there. The gates of hell

893
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Speaker 1: will not prevail against it. So he has built his church.

894
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Speaker 1: He will preserve his church, he will preserve his word,

895
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Speaker 1: he will preserve his people. What changes as the pendulum

896
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Speaker 1: swings is the way that church is carried out in

897
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Speaker 1: its polity, which means church government, and the amount of

898
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Speaker 1: nominal Christians that attach themselves to it or fall away

899
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Speaker 1: from it. So at certain points in our history there's

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Speaker 1: going to be times when culture aligns with the church

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of people pile on and it might

902
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Speaker 1: look like from a distance, church is really good in America.

903
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Speaker 1: Right now it's huge. There's a bunch of people that

904
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Speaker 1: look at the buildings are amazing, and then it's the

905
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: pendulum swings and culture now is against the church. Whenever

906
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Speaker 1: that might happen, or if it does, I don't know,

907
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Speaker 1: not making a comment for it or against it, but

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Speaker 1: when it switches and the church shrinks down, an that's

909
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Speaker 1: not a message that God has given up on the

910
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Speaker 1: Church or that America has turned in the Christians in

911
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Speaker 1: America have turned against God and they need to be punished,

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Speaker 1: like some people would preach. Instead, I think that's more

913
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Speaker 1: of an indication that nominal Christianity is now falling off

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Speaker 1: and the church is slimming down in those slimming moments,

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Speaker 1: which I think we're kind of in a slimming era

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Speaker 1: right now. It's really cool because it's as the fat

917
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Speaker 1: goes away, you start to reveal the muscle of the

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Speaker 1: actual church and you see people that are actually gravitating

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Speaker 1: towards good, sound doctrine, and I think that's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: So what's my opinion on the state of the church.

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Speaker 1: It's probably the same opinion that it's been in the

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Speaker 1: last two thousand years that ebbs and flows, God will

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Speaker 1: preserve it. We need to preach a sound gospel, we

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Speaker 1: need to preach good doctrine. We need to tell people

925
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Speaker 1: about hell and sin that is a direct ticket to hell,

926
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Speaker 1: and we need to tell them about Jesus who is

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Speaker 1: the redemption to close the gap of separation between us

928
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Speaker 1: and God and what He did on the cross so

929
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Speaker 1: that He could reconcile those same sinners away from Hell

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Speaker 1: back to himself. We need to teach the full Gospel

931
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Speaker 1: and that we need to believe that repent, turn away

932
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Speaker 1: from our sin, turn to Him. Anything more, it's just

933
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Speaker 1: fluff and anything less. It's not Christianity.

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Speaker 2: It's about all the time we have.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that it already? I got that interview at eleven. Okay,

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Speaker 1: love you guys. Comment Please help us know if you

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Speaker 1: want Chris to be back here, because I'm kind of

938
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Speaker 1: thinking he shouldn't be back here.

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Speaker 2: If he is, we got to get him a camera.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Some headphones, right, some people aren't meant to be seen.

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Speaker 1: Common If y'all like the Live Edgy podcast with all

944
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Speaker 1: of us in the room, I personally love it, even

945
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Speaker 1: though it just take it. It takes a long time

946
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Speaker 1: to set up. Hopefully we're getting better at the setup.

947
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Speaker 1: But I love this and I hope that we can

948
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Speaker 1: continue to do this at least once a month, maybe

949
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Speaker 1: even more and answer your questions.

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Speaker 2: So I will say from what was happening two minutes

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Speaker 2: before we went live to have it go as well

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Speaker 2: as it has today. It's great. It's true.

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Speaker 1: We won't even tell them the panic we were having

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Speaker 1: right it live.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys.

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Speaker 1: If you have a question, even podcast at grangersmith dot

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Speaker 1: com and we'll see you next Monday like always.

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Speaker 5: He you

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Speaker 3: M hm