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Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and new he Scruggs.

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Speaker 3: Play loud off season.

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Speaker 4: Let's right, Danny Harrison, Barry Church Scrugs. Brought to you

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Speaker 4: by Tostitos. Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. Always a lot to talk

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Speaker 4: about here. Yeah, all season doesn't end, baby league. He

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Speaker 4: is about to come around here. CAP's gonna have to

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Speaker 4: get a place here, So contract's got to be redone renewed.

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Speaker 5: We'll start off with with with my guy, Tamo Sam Sam.

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Speaker 3: Seventy seventh sh Tyer Smith reports.

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Speaker 4: Coming out saying, Hey Cowboys, Tyrs Smith didn't I weren't

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Speaker 4: able to come together on a contract. He's going to

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Speaker 4: be a restrict unrestricted free agent, and that this is

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Speaker 4: most likely going to be it.

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Speaker 3: Tyring was second team All Pro.

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Speaker 4: His agent as any agent should, Hey, my guy, second

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Speaker 4: team All Pro?

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Speaker 3: That contract last year where I played a game in

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Speaker 3: the game. That doesn't work for us that's what your

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Speaker 3: agent should do. Yep, Cowboys, it come up with a

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Speaker 3: deal at all, and I just want to make sure

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Speaker 3: I put it out here first. What a thank Tyre.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's fantastic career.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic career, coming out of the USC taking ninth overall.

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Speaker 4: Started right tackle, went to left tackle. Fantastic year. Uh,

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Speaker 4: fantastic career, and last year fantastic year. Thought he'd have

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Speaker 4: a good year. He had a good year. But thank you,

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Speaker 4: and you got to move on. You got a left

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Speaker 4: tackle now, Tyler Smith moves over to the left tack.

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Speaker 4: You drafted him to be a left tackle. I talked

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Speaker 4: to Will McLay last year, said that's what we did.

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Speaker 4: We drafted him to be a left tackle. So moves

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Speaker 4: on over there. And of course you know you want

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Speaker 4: to go to left tackle because that's where the money.

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Speaker 4: So you kick him on out there. Whoever side signs Tiring,

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Speaker 4: good luck to him. You go in the draft and

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Speaker 4: you go find someone else. So I just set my

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Speaker 2: Look, listen if it is the end, because you know

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Speaker 2: a lot of stranger things have happened, So if it

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Speaker 2: is the end, Tiring has had a hell of a

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Speaker 2: career here, I don't think it's over. I mean I

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Speaker 2: think the recipe has been put out there, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: this is what you got to do to make sure

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Speaker 2: that this guy is able to play at the top

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Speaker 2: Knights level and that he's healthy. Limit the practices, make

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Speaker 2: sure that you keep them out of harm's way and

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Speaker 2: let him be healthy for the game. And he's gonna

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Speaker 2: go out there and be one of the best left

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Speaker 2: has has some left in the tank. But like I said,

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Speaker 2: if it's the last, last, last hoo rock for him here,

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Speaker 2: last season, Hall of Fame career here, uh, game changing

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Speaker 2: left tackle for over a decade, So shout out to him.

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Speaker 2: But you know what this is gonna sound crazy. Still,

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Speaker 2: I would have took him back, told you I said

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Speaker 2: last week, I would have money aside. I'm just talking

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Speaker 2: about you know, said money aside him as a player.

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Speaker 2: And now, after all those years then finally figuring out

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Speaker 2: we didn't. We didn't finally figured out the magic sauce. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so now we go to make sure that we use

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Speaker 2: the sauce. And we got us a second team All

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Speaker 2: Pro left tackle for the next however many years he

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Speaker 2: truth when you say Tyrn Smith has been in all

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Speaker 2: time like top ten left tackle in this league. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, and all of the the accolades, everything that

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Speaker 2: I look at a guy played for the Rams and

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Speaker 2: seventy with big wit right unless you got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's what all these that's what everybody covets. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Knwie when you say, look, you've had

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Speaker 2: a fine career, but we've drafted the guy to be

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Speaker 2: I think for the Cowboys they have to move on

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Speaker 2: when we have to have this conversation about Zach Martin

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Speaker 2: because again you're talking about one of the best to

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Speaker 2: do it in the league. But it's time. It's time.

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Speaker 2: And it was also going back to Jason Whitten. When

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Speaker 2: Jason Whitten was playing those final years and not allowing

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Speaker 2: it for guys to develop in front of him. That's

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Speaker 2: another situation. And I think you look at Tyler and

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Speaker 2: the success that he's had playing guard. Can he make

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Speaker 2: the adjustment out to left tackle is what I'm sure

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Speaker 2: this organization wants to see, and I trust without having

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Speaker 2: the time, proof and consistency that he do it. No, this,

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Speaker 2: this is this is surprising to me.

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Speaker 5: You know, first off, echo everything you guys said about

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Speaker 5: his Hall of Fame career, because we all know he

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Speaker 5: was one of the greatest left tackles to ever do

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Speaker 5: it in the game. But this is surprising for me

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Speaker 5: because you know, when was the last time we saw

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Speaker 5: you know this, Dallas Cowboys organization, let an all time great,

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Speaker 5: you know, go away. We'll just kind of walk away

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Speaker 5: you know, Romo was here for forever. I mean you're

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Speaker 5: looking at guys that have been here and their main

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Speaker 5: like you said, you know, kind of be that blocker,

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Speaker 5: and the Cowboys keep bringing them back. So to me,

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Speaker 5: this is surprising, and maybe it's you know, going in

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Speaker 5: a different direction for the Cowboys as an organization to say, hey,

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Speaker 5: we gotta you know, we gotta keep this thing turning,

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Speaker 5: we gotta keep it rolling. So I'm surprised when it

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Speaker 2: But when it comes to Tyron Smith on a new team,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 5: Know if he's gonna be able to do that that recipe, Like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he's gonna be able to say,

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Speaker 5: hey man, I'm just no camp for me. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna practice, you know, maybe on Fridays on

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Speaker 2: How is he pointing things out? So I don't know

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Speaker 5: And but we'll see going forward because we know if

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Speaker 5: the game, the guys are all start, the guys are

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Speaker 2: Team off pro. So we'll see what happens with him

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Speaker 5: But like you guys all said, I mean, he had

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Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame career here and his mustards are So.

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Speaker 2: My thing is also this okay, because I know last

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Speaker 2: what I don't know. We'll get to all in, but

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Speaker 2: this is just that sounds like sounds like so to me,

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Speaker 2: it is. Where you gonna put them coins at? You

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Speaker 5: Like, you know, I don't know what number he was

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Speaker 5: asking for, whatever he wanted that left tackle, but you

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Speaker 5: know where are you going to allocate those dollars to?

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Speaker 5: Do you think it's more important that you know, take

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Speaker 2: To you know, running back out there? Like do you

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Speaker 2: think it's gonna be that much more impactful? Oh? You

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Speaker 2: think that's the case with with four, which it could be.

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Speaker 5: It could be with four out there, and we all

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Speaker 5: But if you ain't got nobody holding down that blind side,

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be interesting where they where they decide

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Speaker 2: What's more interesting to me is from the center and

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Speaker 2: what are you gonna do with be Odish? Do you

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Speaker 2: then you're looking to bring in an offensive lineman if

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Speaker 2: you don't sign be Odish and so, look, we're starting

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Speaker 2: I would feel better about that having him in between

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Speaker 2: Beotish and Smith versus do you like I like it?

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Speaker 2: And to think about Idoga, Adoga was a guard and

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Speaker 2: that's like, that's the mystery to all of that because

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Speaker 2: and so I understand the organizations is basically saying, look,

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Speaker 2: and move on down down the road and find something

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Speaker 2: better here. I think Tyler Smith is the heir apparent.

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Speaker 2: They get an opportunity to look at that now start

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Speaker 2: And then my question is this, if he goes out,

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Speaker 2: you think that Jerry says, all right, wait, well come

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in a league that is starving for offensive lineman

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Speaker 3: Whole primise too of you basically playing per game.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you're healthy.

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Speaker 4: And Danny, you went through that negotiations class when you

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Speaker 3: Point, what is the bottom line where you say this.

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Speaker 4: If I'm tying, I have to have guarantees. I'm not

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Speaker 3: You got also diggi Zoo some point he's got to

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Speaker 4: That's why I am the opinion I'll let I'll let

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: When you talk about the center, I'm going out to

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Speaker 4: that's what I want. I want a bigger center. We

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Speaker 3: You can do that. The kid hump free up there

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Speaker 3: But that kid. You've seen rookies do this.

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Speaker 4: The guy in Baltimore, his name was talked about a

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Speaker 4: So you can find somebody to do this. Plus you've

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Speaker 3: If it's odougo over there.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna have five perfect dudes, but you're if

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna be perfect, but you cannot go in,

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Speaker 3: You were fifteenth and rushing last year.

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Speaker 2: It ain't good enough.

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Speaker 4: It was anybody happy with Tony Pollo's production and the

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Speaker 2: Present, no serve, no, not at all. But the names

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Speaker 2: somewhere else, all right, Because they're talking about another guy

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Speaker 2: for what? Especially if we have a guy that we

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Speaker 2: It's been an embarrassment of riches here for years where

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Speaker 2: I just don't feel like smack dab in the middle

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Speaker 4: So I did some research on West Virginia's Zach Fraser.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so call the.

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Speaker 4: Contact up there when you're playing a big twelve. I said,

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Speaker 4: be Oddish wider can hold it better. Said, he's an

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Speaker 2: That is where that's the kind of player you are, right,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. No, absolutely, if you could go on.

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Speaker 3: The second round and go get yourself a starting center.

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Speaker 4: Who's bigger, because we won't talking about with Hey, nice player,

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Speaker 4: but boy, you know you can get on passing.

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm talking at. A high character guy.

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Speaker 4: And I'm saving money because, by the way, when you

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Speaker 2: Right, What does he want to get paid? And that's

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's a million dollar question. What does he

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Speaker 2: Is it something that's comparable and fair? I'm Tyler be

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Speaker 2: Oddish is not going in there pounding the table saying

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Speaker 3: All right, so I come back.

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Speaker 2: If he is, then I knew it. Hey, all right,

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Speaker 2: behind you, I count this.

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Speaker 3: We saw Conner Williams.

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Speaker 4: You go to Dolphins and Connor Williams has been been

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Speaker 3: He's a he's a good player.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna pay him because I feel if

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys know how to draft offensive live. Yes, we

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Speaker 4: talked about this with running backs all the time. Amen,

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Speaker 4: just move on. You can do that with a center

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Speaker 4: and when he's watching. We have seen where rookies have

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Speaker 3: Center and do just fine.

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Speaker 2: Is that the other Connor went to Buffalo He played

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Speaker 3: That's so, so he's he's he's a good player.

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Speaker 4: But as I'm trying to look and pay these other cela,

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Speaker 2: A new right. I mean, but you really don't have

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Speaker 3: So he's not just coming in, Hey man, make me

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Speaker 2: No, he's coming in strong.

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Speaker 4: So that's where as I'm looking to save dollars, Hey,

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Speaker 4: that to me is where you have to That's where

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Speaker 4: Let me go in the draft to do this. I

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Speaker 3: People and feelings.

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Speaker 4: What's the old eighty twenty rule you about to have,

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Speaker 3: Let's get a break here. And I love what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: I love what you're saying is he's watching some of

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Speaker 4: Any based on what you were talking about here before

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys, you're looking at them sixteenth overall in Rush

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Speaker 4: one hundred and forty three yards, three touchdowns on the ground. Yes,

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Speaker 4: as I see these mock drafts and Cowboys fans getting

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Speaker 4: all excited, guys, this thing is being lost for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: In the playoffs the last three years because of what's.

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Speaker 3: Going on in the trenches.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we can.

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Speaker 4: Talk about Xavier Worthy all day long. Without all these

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Speaker 4: receivers all day long, you can't stop anybody in the playoffs. This,

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Speaker 4: I mean how they get you can put out of

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Speaker 4: the playoffs the last three years by two forty nine

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Speaker 4: er teams and the Packers they ran on you and

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Speaker 4: you couldn't run on them.

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Speaker 2: Well, almost every team that wanted to run on you

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Speaker 2: going all the way back to Denver. So I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not just the playoffs. This is this is every game.

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Speaker 2: We come in here and we say, hey, man, what

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Speaker 2: do the Cowboys need to do to be able to

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Speaker 2: win this game convincingly like they should and stop the

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Speaker 2: run as always? And we come back in here on

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Speaker 2: Monday and we're like, you know what, nine times out

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Speaker 2: of ten they have they didn't stop the run like

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Speaker 2: we hoped they would, Right, why do we keep ignoring

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Speaker 2: this catastrophe on defense? I mean, look, and dan Quayn,

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Speaker 2: we trusted, ed, trusted, but there was a point that

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Speaker 2: we came to every season where it was like, look,

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Speaker 2: our run defense was horrible last season, going just starting

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Speaker 2: at Arizona game all the way down against the teams

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Speaker 2: that had a forty five run offense. We couldn't compete. Uh,

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Speaker 2: and we saw that, and it reminds me like we're

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Speaker 2: all fathers here, and you know, if you've ever took

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Speaker 2: your child from going from baby food to solid foods,

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Speaker 2: it's a transition. And there are some mistakes, some accidents

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Speaker 2: that happened that as fathers, we will walk right past

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Speaker 2: and let mama hanma those this is, this is this

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Speaker 2: reminds me of that problem. Oh, I didn't see that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that, and we got it and the

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Speaker 2: problem is going to persist if we don't correct it.

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Speaker 2: And like I've been looking at the looking at the

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Speaker 2: comebine and I'm sitting there saying like why why is

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Speaker 2: my Because I saw Michael IRV and he was so

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Speaker 2: excited about the the Florida state wide receiver and I'm like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's cool unless it's you know, second third round something

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Speaker 2: definitely not first round, because we have to get a

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Speaker 2: guy we either a linebacker U three tech. We have

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Speaker 2: to get that guy that can just solidify us up front.

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Speaker 2: And KNEWI I completely agree with you when you go

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Speaker 2: back to the Green Bay tape and you look that

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Speaker 2: that was our problem. Nothing. We could not get off

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Speaker 2: the field. And I'm looking at these linebackers and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: I need a good off ball linebacker like the San

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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine windows, either Warner or green Law or

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Speaker 2: need enforcer. And I thought to myself, I said, Damn,

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Speaker 2: I already got it, mom te. It's Michael Parson's but

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Speaker 2: I gotta use him. But I gotta use him at

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Speaker 2: defensive end. And so how do I go into this

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Speaker 2: saying I need an off ball linebacker, needs something I

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Speaker 2: already have on my team. And then that's Zimmers thing

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Speaker 2: is how do you use Micah? And when you're going

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Speaker 2: out here and you're looking at getting another linebacker, we're

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Speaker 2: essentially going to be getting a linebacker that can blitz,

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Speaker 2: that can cover that, you know, because that's what you want,

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Speaker 2: and that's what you want. You want a guy that

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Speaker 2: can get you at least eight blitz, get you at

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Speaker 2: least eight sacks from the linebacker position. I got that

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Speaker 2: in Micah. So I mean I'm in a situation with

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Speaker 2: the position flex that I need as far as the

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Speaker 2: linebacker position. Now, I need a guy I need who

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Speaker 2: can put the green dot on like I need that

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Speaker 2: guy like that guy is usually the difference maker on

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Speaker 2: your team, and not just because of his talent or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's because he's the leader out there. A general. Sean

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Speaker 2: Lee general type of guy. Warner general type of guy.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, when everything going bad, they looking at this

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Speaker 2: guy to get him right or to go out there

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Speaker 2: and make a play. That's the type of linebacker that

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Speaker 2: you need. He needs the talent, he needs to be

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Speaker 2: able to cover all that good stuff. He needs to

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Speaker 2: have the instincts to be able to shoot gaps. But

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Speaker 2: you need a general out there on your defense. And

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Speaker 2: until we find one, we're gonna be in the same

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Speaker 2: same issues right now, same issues because it is a

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Speaker 2: lot of times during the season where sometimes it just

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Speaker 2: ain't going right for you. But you gotta have that

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Speaker 2: guy where you can look at it and be like, hey man,

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Speaker 2: so hey, so what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: He then got a guy, Ed Cooper, He's a guy.

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Speaker 4: So so when you talk about the combined numbers and

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Speaker 4: I didn't spend a whole lot of time there and

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Speaker 4: get excited about the unwear Olympics, but you see it

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Speaker 4: players there and they've got to figure it out. But

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Speaker 4: if you stay in the first round, in my mind,

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Speaker 4: you have to address and I should. Yes, we're the

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Speaker 4: D line with the front seven. That's what the linebackers

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Speaker 4: come in here. And so free agency is gonna hit.

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Speaker 4: First draft is in April, so free agency hit for

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Speaker 4: and so that that'll be interesting of what what they

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Speaker 4: decide to do. But you've got to go ahead and

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Speaker 4: address this problem. We also at some point I need

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Speaker 4: to get some kind of update on Misie smith.

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Speaker 2: Well eating someone because he looks slip he going out there.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Get you some honey buns,

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Speaker 2: you know whatever that is raised the flag, put some breaks,

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Speaker 2: to got to be don't go, don't listen to We're

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Speaker 2: gonna be the first plason to come back. Help me

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Speaker 2: on the radio. Tell us he saw you in there

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got the we too, we too. They've

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Speaker 3: they've got to address these things.

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Speaker 4: And so for me right now, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 4: at the defense in the first round, barring whatever we

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Speaker 4: see in free agency, because just for all of our

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Speaker 4: cowboy listeners, when you do something in free agency, you're

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Speaker 4: normally not going to do that same thing in the draft,

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Speaker 4: usually not going to double up there.

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Speaker 3: But they've got they've got to address it.

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Speaker 4: That's one good thing about Zimmer. We know zimmer Wall

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Speaker 4: Zimmer likes to be stout upfront, and he likes his linebackers.

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Speaker 3: He likes his linebackers. So that's got to be addressed.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: It's it's just it's been too far gone. You didn't

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Speaker 4: try to escape too many times.

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Speaker 2: You can't I ask. I'm really and the thought also

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Speaker 2: as we talk about our deficiencies in the defensive line

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Speaker 2: the running back position is so much has changed in

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Speaker 2: the in the climate of the football where now no

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Speaker 2: one goes into the first round talking about picking up

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Speaker 2: a running back anymore. So, uh, second, third, fourth round

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Speaker 2: is where you're looking to pick up a running back.

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Speaker 2: I think we have to address that. I really do.

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Speaker 2: I really I feel like coming into the season even

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Speaker 2: last season after Tony Poler got injured. You saw it, man,

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Speaker 2: our running game was pretty much like you know, dead

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Speaker 2: in the water. There's nothing we could do in San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: and even against Green Bay we didn't have a chance

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Speaker 2: because we could not run the ball first sim and

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Speaker 2: then obviously we got too far behind that running the

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Speaker 2: ball was senseless. But we have to address that.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think we're all in agreement there.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys have done a good job.

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Speaker 4: When you talk about drafting running backs. Me, Tony Fouk

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Speaker 4: was taking in the fourth round. He did a good job.

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Speaker 4: And me, you think about where they took Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 4: and what he helped do this franchise. They've made some

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Speaker 4: smart choices in the draft with these running backs.

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Speaker 3: I trust them to go out and get to get someone.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 4: And you hear Mike McCarthy tell the Beat writers he'd

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Speaker 4: like to have Tony Poller back. I wouldn't mind Tony

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Speaker 4: Poller back. You need some help around it. Don't ask

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Speaker 4: him to carry the load.

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Speaker 3: But I can see it they got that one kid out.

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Speaker 4: In order to good football player, you take a kid

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Speaker 4: like that along with Tony Pollard. Now you got two

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Speaker 4: guys out here who could do a little something for you.

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Speaker 4: I think that's easy to me. I think that's easy.

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Speaker 2: How many picks to the Cowboys having this draft? And no,

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Speaker 2: don't have the four before.

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Speaker 4: I think he gave up five for Cooks. But you've

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Speaker 4: got I got to go back and check this, because

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Speaker 4: we look, we love We're talking about offensive line, were

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Speaker 4: talking about defensive line.

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Speaker 5: We talk about the second level for for linebackers, and

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Speaker 5: let's not mistake the secondary. Gilly's a free agent, if

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Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken. So is George Lewis as well, if

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Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken. And there's a lot of holes that.

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Speaker 2: This team needs to fill out. And the cap. We

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Speaker 2: still ain't even look at the cap situation right now.

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Speaker 4: Which is why I talked about Trey down here. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so here they have five picks right now. So you

666
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Speaker 4: got a first round pick number twenty four, second round

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Speaker 4: pick number fifty eight, third round pick at eighty seven,

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Speaker 4: and then you have two seventh round picks.

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Speaker 3: So you do not have a four or five or six.

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Speaker 2: Oh goodness, man, That's what I'm like, hold on, And.

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Speaker 4: That's where a trade down is something you could think

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Speaker 4: think about here out of the first round to try

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Speaker 4: to recoup some more picks to get some some other.

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Speaker 2: Players, and legit, we're talking about free agency.

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Speaker 5: You've got first, second, third, sleep. Yeah, this is CD's

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Speaker 5: fifth year, right, it's gonna be his his franchise. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but I don't I don't. I don't know, man, I

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Speaker 5: don't see him coming in to go play with U.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, I'm good with this.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's where I said.

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Speaker 4: You know, paying a badish and paying a smith is

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Speaker 4: really not there. I've got you've got to take care

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Speaker 4: of eighty eight and four. Those are going to be

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Speaker 4: monster deals. Those are going to be huge contracts.

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Speaker 3: CD Lamb is.

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Speaker 4: Most likely going to be, if not the highest paid,

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Speaker 4: the top three average salard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's.

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Speaker 4: So you've got that, and you've got Prescott and you know,

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Speaker 4: we've heard if Joe Burrow got fifty five and Herbert

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Speaker 4: got fifty two, So start thinking there at minimum, your

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Speaker 4: guy is getting fifty two minimum minimum.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is it's a tough it's a pickle. But

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Speaker 2: they've been knowing that they had this situation coming for

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Speaker 2: a very long time. You could have negotiated redone those deals,

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Speaker 2: and we've waited till the eleventh hour. So that who

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Speaker 2: do you put the who do you put the fault on?

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Speaker 2: The elephant in the the elephant in the room. The

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Speaker 2: elephant in the room is Dak in CD's contract. And

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Speaker 2: Dak isn't I mean, he's gone radio silid. Basically, I

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Speaker 2: guess we saw him with the goatee the other day,

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Speaker 2: but we hadn't seen that. We hadn't seen that, so

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Speaker 2: we don't know anything from what he's asking for. What's

704
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Speaker 2: going on with that? We know, we know CD, we

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Speaker 2: know CD. After seeing Mike Evans, I thought that was

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Speaker 2: a different person. I ain't gonna lie. I thought it

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Speaker 2: was fake. I thought think I was like that, ain't

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Speaker 2: you know I have to look at the thing at

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Speaker 2: the bottom those black statutes. NA, that's when you when

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Speaker 2: you when the video game and that like create your

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Speaker 2: character to start off with. Don't do my quarterback like that?

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Speaker 2: Look you used to see it a certain way. He

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Speaker 2: looked different. I did not think that. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: it look bad. That's not my looked different. And so

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Speaker 2: he's gonna reset the market. He's gonna reset the market

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be the highest one of the highest paid

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league and for have a long uh

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Speaker 2: that's coming this way and you can't. And the thing

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Speaker 2: is that, I guess if you look at it from

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Speaker 2: a negotiation standpoint with with do they go to the

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Speaker 2: do with their employees and say you aren't what we

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Speaker 2: thought you were and you're gonna take that. No, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk to him as far as the top paid

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Speaker 2: guys in the league. So now you're paying not only

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Speaker 2: the lion's share to your quarterback, but also to your

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Speaker 2: wide receiver. And don't look. Now you probably have a

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Speaker 2: resetting of the market defense in all of defense with

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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons being the highest paid defensive player ever when

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Speaker 2: it comes down to his contract.

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Speaker 3: So that means that means somebody got to thank you

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Speaker 3: by this.

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Speaker 2: So hey did start these conversations with CD last year. Also,

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that when they were listening to

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Speaker 2: the thirteen hundred yard projections man.

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Speaker 3: Franchise right now, it's to let it's like they did

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Speaker 3: with Tank and Dak. They did it again.

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Speaker 4: A wide receiver franchise tag is basically twenty two million dollars,

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Speaker 4: so twenty six that God, you know.

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Speaker 3: That, that's that. This is the market.

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Speaker 2: This is the market.

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Speaker 4: So somewhere along the way you're going to have to

743
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Speaker 4: try to save dollars to make these two deals happen.

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Speaker 3: And why haven't you heard for Dak Prescott. It's real simple.

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Speaker 3: When you have all the leverage, the best thing you

746
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Speaker 3: can do is say nothing, give nothing away. Because this

747
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Speaker 4: You got to pay me sixty million either way, have

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Speaker 4: to Why would I say one thing to anybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there thinking about all them times on

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Speaker 2: us sign playing on them franchise. Oh he hot, he not.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's not giving an inch. He's not giving

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Speaker 2: an inch. You don't forget you have to. But playing

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Speaker 2: any of that in there, and you can get get

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Speaker 2: completely out of this deal whole. Next year, I.

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Speaker 2: It just me who don't get nothing? Just me? Heyly

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Speaker 3: That's went on Survivor and one and that kind of

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: You were talking about you could guys, since you asked

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Speaker 2: Your were was so dum You still walking with this

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Speaker 4: So Hetna was speaking about Dak Prescott and why Dak

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Speaker 4: We'll let you play fifty nine million, and Dak says,

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Speaker 4: go ahead. You can't improve your football team. You what

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Speaker 4: you want to do is sign into a contract and

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Speaker 4: then that first year, well he's making like two million

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Speaker 4: That's how you work the cap and you make it

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Speaker 4: and you and you get to sign other people. So

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Speaker 4: it is in their best interest. And the way they

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Speaker 4: set up the contract, they basically put themselves in the

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Speaker 4: position that they have to get something done with it to.

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Speaker 2: Improve the I think it's imperative that they get the

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Speaker 2: deal done for all of those reasons. If you let

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Speaker 2: him play on that and he comes in and you

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Speaker 2: can't improve the team, he looks horrible. He didn't have

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Speaker 2: any pieces around him, didn't have you know, other guys,

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Speaker 2: you're not able to improve your offensive line. I think

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Speaker 2: all of those things does not bold well. They're tied

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Speaker 2: at the hip in this situation if you look at

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Speaker 2: He wants his money to me, the Cowboys should definitely

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Speaker 2: make sure that they get that done because you're only

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Speaker 2: a few players away. I feel like you're getting to

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Speaker 2: Let me say something. If you paid Dak sixty and

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Speaker 2: and have a year in trouble, you're gonna pay him anyways,

869
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: Well you're gonna let him go after that. Years all,

870
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: we paid you sixty because you know whatever, And then

871
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you have a year. Now you're

872
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: finna go out there and paying fifty five the next year. Anyway,

873
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna get it. And and I think in the

874
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: organization's mind they believe that we will go as far

875
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: as that Dak Prescott is gonna take us. I don't

876
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: see them looking at next year being a year where

877
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: you don't have Dak Prescott. So I see them paying

878
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: I see them paying a guy. How many players are

879
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: we away from the NFC Championship game? Guys we're talking

880
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: about say twenty ye? Man, why y'all doing this? Man? Twelve?

881
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: Think about how many guys you had this year? How

882
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: many guys that you have on the squad this year.

883
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: We were sitting there saying, Okay, we got Cooks, we

884
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: got Gilmore, we got this, that, that that that, And

885
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 2: then we come out of see and say, you know, man,

886
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: we need offensive line, defensive line, linebacker, running back. You

887
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: need you need to.

888
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: Running backs free agent right now. So you need to dudes,

889
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: because right now the guys you got can he sold,

890
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: you sold. Let's you need to run. You need to dudes,

891
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 4: uh your center? He free agent, probably gonna lose left tackle,

892
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: at least.

893
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: Two linebackers, interior, the slock corner, lose free agent Gilly.

894
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: And it's my understanding that every team in the NFL

895
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: has these same set of issues. You can even go

896
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: to the Kansas City Chiefs and start going down your

897
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: fingers and saying what they're losing. I'm telling you right now,

898
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: with the team that you have, where you got in

899
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: this season to even being close to winning the NFC,

900
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: come on, guys, come on, guys. Don't don't tell me

901
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: that we are twenty players away from from winning the championship.

902
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: I said nine, look at you, guys. Yeah, I need that,

903
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: but you need at least six. Sure, God, you need

904
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: not bridge not bridge players, like a guy to bring

905
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: in it like, because that's what you would You consider

906
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: Gilly to be the bridge player that you because you

907
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: were he was a bridge player, I believe, okay, And

908
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: for me, you.

909
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 4: Think with Gilly is we're assuming Diggs is going to

910
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 4: come back, but we don't know how he comes back.

911
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 4: When does it happen? When is he gonna feel like

912
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: he used to be. He fe the leadership that he

913
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 4: brings the Gilly's broads as well. I mean, there's there's

914
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 4: there's some issues there right now that I'm looking at.

915
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 4: And look, I was Imitt and Troy over the weekend. Man,

916
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 4: Emmy is hot. He's still mad about this.

917
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: Team, still about this team because he mad. I've seen

918
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: him put Florida to about the d man.

919
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 4: He not playing, but that the client the culture, that's

920
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: another thing you bring us. What about this culture of

921
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: dudes act like they've won something here? We have not

922
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: seen them come through when they needed to come through.

923
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: And I don't even know how many people are pained

924
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: by what's been happening.

925
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: With these exits.

926
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 4: So I just think there's there, there's there are some

927
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: players away, and then there's a culture shift of.

928
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: How many people want to play and just be cowboys

929
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 3: and want to actually go out.

930
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 4: Head and win some games and hate losing. There's stuff here, man,

931
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: because it's been this way. I mean, think about it,

932
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: super Bowl thirty.

933
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: Do that here?

934
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brush, I didn't have children, right, I mean these

935
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: dudes are what elementary.

936
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: School he was watching?

937
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: He was washing stone coolers, right, think about that? So

938
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: there's problems here.

939
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: Man, there's there's sevenths and that is not cool.

940
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 4: But the whole premier, the premise of three twelve win seasons.

941
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: If you're just going throughout the league, the regression comes.

942
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: It's hard to have, you know, four of these in

943
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 4: a row.

944
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: It's hard. The league is not made for you to

945
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: do that.

946
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: And when you when you go back to the success

947
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: that Kansas City is having, it's because you look at

948
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 2: a Patrick Mahomes you say, look, he is the lynch

949
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: Pian of everything. And Andy Reid. They have a system

950
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: that is unbeatable. They figured out a way to get

951
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: through the regular season, which was the worst regular season

952
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: that they had, and was able to roll through the playoffs.

953
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this Cowboys team and just saying, look,

954
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: there's so many other things that we need to build around.

955
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: We didn't have the running game that we needed to

956
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: get through those points in the season where we absolutely

957
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 2: needed our running game to come through. Secondary wise, I'm

958
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: with you, Like Marquise Bell to me as a linebacker,

959
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: he's going to be the guy that's going to move

960
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: out to safety. I don't know if we're going to

961
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: resign curse. He's been and he even played for zimmer

962
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: So we don't know how that's going to go. I

963
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: think you have some of the pieces here, but I'm

964
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: making that point to say, as you look around the

965
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: league and you look at teams like Buffalo, the teams

966
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: that you think are going to be in contention, they

967
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: don't have all the pieces. And so I don't expect

968
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: for this to be perfect in the end that we

969
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: have a guy at each position, but I don't feel

970
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: like we are nine players away.

971
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that's.

972
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Speaker 4: This edition of the Players Lounge with Barry Churchich, Maharis,

973
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,920
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974
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,040
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975
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: Everybody's in party. We'll talk to you again next Monday

976
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 3: right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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