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Speaker 4: All right, what's up? Joy?
Speaker 2: All right? All right, all right, that wasn't my best McConaughey,
Speaker 2: how's yours?
Speaker 4: Uh, probably worse, So let's stick with yours. I would
Speaker 4: hate to turn people off of the episode six seconds
Speaker 4: and so we'll just save it for a different time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, no problem. Well hey everybody, Hey, I'm good.
Speaker 2: How are you? How was your day? We're doing this
Speaker 2: one a little later tonight, so you guys are catching
Speaker 2: us at the end of our days. Here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little exhausted, a little punch here, a little
Speaker 4: slap happy. We'll see.
Speaker 2: How was everything with the kids today? Was it like
Speaker 2: a nice, easy, smooth, chill day or was it like
Speaker 2: a mannic, wild, crazy day.
Speaker 4: I have a three and a half year old. There
Speaker 4: is it's just varying shades of anarchy. And today was
Speaker 4: it was like Gong Show. Oh no, yeah, yeah, how
Speaker 4: was your day?
Speaker 2: My day was actually pretty chill. I just organized from
Speaker 2: top to bottom. I decided to start spring cleaning a
Speaker 2: little early. I've I have always been a bit of
Speaker 2: a messy, messy brain, messy person. And I look around
Speaker 2: and suddenly and I see piles everywhere, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't live like this and I
Speaker 2: can't get anything done like this. So I just decided
Speaker 2: to take the week and I'm going from the back
Speaker 2: of my house to the front, and I'm every Bobby pin,
Speaker 2: every sticker, every post it note, every ticket from that
Speaker 2: train in London from four years ago that's in the
Speaker 2: bottom of that purse in the back of the cloth. Like,
Speaker 2: everything is getting cleaned. And then you know, in the meantime,
Speaker 2: it takes some time to watch one Tree Hill.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, great segue. Welcome in everybody. This week we
Speaker 4: have season eight, episode five, Nobody Taught Us to Quit
Speaker 4: Air date October twelfth, twenty ten. Synopsis reads. As Clay
Speaker 4: is discharged from the hospital, Nathan contemplates walking away from
Speaker 4: the NBA. Meanwhile, Brook and Victoria disagree on how to
Speaker 4: handle the company's financial problems, and Chase discovers a secret
Speaker 4: about Alex directed by the one and only James Lafferty.
Speaker 4: And it was written.
Speaker 2: And it was it was written by a room of writers.
Speaker 4: That's right, took a village.
Speaker 2: Well what did you think? What do you think of
Speaker 2: this episode?
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4: I I'd loved the start with. It was so perfect
Speaker 4: that Jamie wanted to see Quinn's gunshot wound. Also shout
Speaker 4: out to Rocky because that thing looked so real.
Speaker 2: So so grossross and so real. It was really really real.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was fun and ouzy. Yeah, I love this.
Speaker 2: We just keep up with this narrative of the well
Speaker 2: the literal narration of the story happening, which is how
Speaker 2: One Tree Hill always starts. I love whenever they bring
Speaker 2: that in because this nostalgia is big. And I like
Speaker 2: Haley writing her letters to Lucas keeping him in the loop.
Speaker 2: I wonder do you think they did that just to
Speaker 2: like maintain the nostalgia or do you think they were
Speaker 2: like trying to get Chad back and like trying to
Speaker 2: build it. Maybe they were like talking to him and
Speaker 2: trying to build up like audience love, and then it
Speaker 2: just didn't pan out.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because if you remember in season
Speaker 4: towards the end of season seven when Dan had his talk,
Speaker 4: there was that really crappy line he had where he's like,
Speaker 4: we should bring Lucas on for a guest. God knows
Speaker 4: he's not doing anything.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah, No, they definitely were not trying
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 4: I think it's a two birds unfortunate thing right where
Speaker 4: it's something. It's it's something for the audience because it's
Speaker 4: connective tissue to Lucas someone they're all missing. And then
Speaker 4: it is also a pretty clever way of just doing
Speaker 4: a little exposition.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is emotional exposition.
Speaker 2: Etching everybody up. Yeah. And what she was saying actually
Speaker 2: was really cool. I liked that what they had me
Speaker 2: right talking about how yeah hard it is to see
Speaker 2: how many people out there are hurting, but how heartened
Speaker 2: she is by the fact that people keep reaching out
Speaker 2: for help as she's working at this crisis hotline's it
Speaker 2: is nice to to It was nice for me to
Speaker 2: think about that because I think a lot of us
Speaker 2: just kind of suffer in silence. I know I do.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not I'm the last person to reach
Speaker 2: out when I'm feeling depressed or having a hard time.
Speaker 2: It is so painful to pick up the phone and
Speaker 2: call someone because I just don't want to be a burden.
Speaker 2: And I always which is so weird, because I never
Speaker 2: ever think that if a friend is having a hard
Speaker 2: time and calls me, I'm never.
Speaker 4: Like, oh god, yeah, you're flattering.
Speaker 2: You're kind of busy right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I'm like, oh, thank you, let's talk. I want
Speaker 2: to be here. I want to matter to you and
Speaker 2: help you and do something meaningful with my life. And
Speaker 2: if I can show up for you, that's amazing And
Speaker 2: how can I help?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I don't know why I have such a hard
Speaker 2: time reaching out. Are you Have you like evolved to
Speaker 2: this place, rob where you can just pick up the
Speaker 2: phone when you're having a hard time. Is it easier?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's still a thousand pound phone, but I
Speaker 4: have my The time between discomfort and reaching out is
Speaker 4: continually getting shorter and shorter, but I still I still
Speaker 4: do the same thing because it's old behavior that whole like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be a bother yeah, when just
Speaker 4: like you said, it's like when a friend reaches out
Speaker 4: to me, it's they're giving me an opportunity to show
Speaker 4: up for them and show them that I care about them.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, dude, I'm here, what's you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? And so I'm getting better. But suffering silence
Speaker 4: was sadly kind of my mantra during the show because
Speaker 4: this was pre therapy and stuff and I was just
Speaker 4: struggling and it was like I don't want to be
Speaker 4: in a position yea, yeah yeah, So yeah, I did
Speaker 4: the same as you.
Speaker 2: I'm glad things like this crisis hotline exist. I didn't
Speaker 2: even really know it that it did until we started
Speaker 2: filming this episode and I was like, crisis hotlines, this
Speaker 2: is the thing you can do. I mean, I knew
Speaker 2: there were numbers you could call if you were in
Speaker 2: serious mental health like self destructive mode, but I didn't
Speaker 2: realize it was just someplace you could call if you
Speaker 2: were feeling lonely and needed somebody to talk to. And
Speaker 2: I love that even just the opening, just our show
Speaker 2: is introducing this to people as something that is a
Speaker 2: possibility if you aren't yet comfortable call and your friends
Speaker 2: or feel like you don't have anybody close enough that
Speaker 2: you could pick up a phone.
Speaker 3: And call call somebody like Hayley James.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really sweet.
Speaker 4: It is a nice way to kind of spread awareness
Speaker 4: and also normalize it. Yeah, you know, because again, if
Speaker 4: you know grew up like most of us, I think
Speaker 4: there was a there was a stigma to asking for help.
Speaker 4: You know, it's considered weak whatever that means, you know.
Speaker 4: So it was nice that our show was sort of
Speaker 4: putting it on the map. But going back to the
Speaker 4: gunshot wound, I love you had some really funny moments
Speaker 4: this episode, and I love when the show gives you
Speaker 4: opportunities to be funny because you always just crush it.
Speaker 4: And I love that you come in the bathroom and
Speaker 4: Quinn's like no, no, no, it's gross, and you're like, trick,
Speaker 4: I'm a mom, I've seen much much worse, like please
Speaker 4: get over yourself. And she pulls off the bandage and
Speaker 4: you see that pussy wound and you immediately are like nope,
Speaker 4: I'm out hard pass and you just walk out of
Speaker 4: the room and Jamie's.
Speaker 2: Like, aw so gross, God so great. I can't I
Speaker 2: cannot I feel I mean, are you okay with wounds
Speaker 2: and blood and stuff, like can you manage to if
Speaker 2: you're you know, if your kid falls down and you
Speaker 2: just you take a needle and stitch something or super
Speaker 2: glue or like, are you good with that? Ah?
Speaker 4: I listen like a needle, like having to stitch my
Speaker 4: kid up. No, But that's just because I have no
Speaker 4: medical training. I'm okay like around blood and wounds and stuff.
Speaker 4: I think, if anything, I'm a little more sheepish when
Speaker 4: they're my own.
Speaker 2: Oh oh.
Speaker 4: When it's one of my people, I can kind of
Speaker 4: be just like detach like a mechanic, like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's a lot of blood, Like cool, I'm gonna help you.
Speaker 4: We're gonna fix you know what I mean. Yeah, Whereas
Speaker 4: if it's me, I can get a little squeamer's like ooh,
Speaker 4: that's I'm seeing much farther into my tissue than I
Speaker 4: would care to right now? Is that bone? I'm gonna
Speaker 4: pass out? You know? How about you?
Speaker 2: It does depend with my daughter. I'm very calm under
Speaker 2: pressure or like anything I can handle. You know. What's
Speaker 2: actually worse for me is if someone describes a wound,
Speaker 2: If someone is talking to me about an injury, my
Speaker 2: stomach immediately lurches into my throat. Yeah, I mean in
Speaker 2: an emergency situation, I think I can detach. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of any time when I've been now it
Speaker 2: doesn't gross me out, and my own stuff I didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I had contractors working on my house
Speaker 2: and maybe we're doing some floors and a floor vent
Speaker 2: got left open. But it was like on the far
Speaker 2: side of the room. And when I say open, you
Speaker 2: know the floor vents are. It's just a hole cut
Speaker 2: in the wood, but then it has the Usually it
Speaker 2: has that metal thing over the top of it, so
Speaker 2: they didn't have the metal thing on it. But it
Speaker 2: was like far away on the other side of the
Speaker 2: room by a window. And I didn't really go in
Speaker 2: that room very often, so it really wasn't a big
Speaker 2: deal except that the I don't know if she was
Speaker 2: jumping on the trampoline in the next room, but anyway,
Speaker 2: the curtain rod fell down, so I went to go
Speaker 2: fix it, and so the curtain was covering the hole
Speaker 2: and I didn't see that it was open. Oh no,
Speaker 2: is your stomach larching into your throat? So I step
Speaker 2: into this hole, but it's right on the edge of
Speaker 2: the curtain, so it's not like the curtain was going
Speaker 2: to protect my foot. And as I step into this hole,
Speaker 2: the freshly sliced wood freshly slices into my foot and
Speaker 2: I felt it and it was one of those super
Speaker 2: sharp cuts that you know it's going to hurt like
Speaker 2: a mother in about thirty seconds, maybe twenty, but you've
Speaker 2: got a very short window of time before all of
Speaker 2: the nerves start kicking it. And I looked down at
Speaker 2: this thing, and it is down this cut has got
Speaker 2: to be at least an inch and a half down
Speaker 2: into and you know, your foot's kind of there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of meat there, so it's it's on the
Speaker 2: side of my foot and it's a it's about an
Speaker 2: inch long and then probably an inch and a half
Speaker 2: deep into my foot. So I looked at it. It was
Speaker 2: a perfectly clean slice, and I could pull the sides
Speaker 2: of my foot apart and you could see right down
Speaker 2: into my muscle, and like, I'm not sure how I was, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: what am I going to do? Short window of time.
Speaker 2: I hobbled very quickly into the kitchen where I have
Speaker 2: my medicine cabinet, and uh, I grabbed a little bit
Speaker 2: of super glue, and I stuck that thing back together
Speaker 2: and I put a band aid on it, and I
Speaker 2: just slept it alone. Wait, I pretended like it didn't appen.
Speaker 4: You used household super glue on yeah, wound.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what you do.
Speaker 4: Seriously.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I dated an army ranger once and he told
Speaker 2: me that that's just what they do. They just they
Speaker 2: have super glue and they just like deal with their
Speaker 2: wounds with super clue. And I thought that was the
Speaker 2: craziest thing when I heard it. But in that moment,
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do it because it
Speaker 2: didn't look dirty. There was no saw dust, there was
Speaker 2: nothing in it that I thought I need to clean
Speaker 2: this out. I'm just gonna close this thing up and
Speaker 2: I hope it goes away, which is probably a very
Speaker 2: dumb of me. But it turned out okay. I just
Speaker 2: didn't look at it, didn't take the band aid off
Speaker 2: for about four days, and it healed.
Speaker 4: You just hoped and prayed for the best. What's so
Speaker 4: funny about this moment is I have to imagine that
Speaker 4: with the listeners, I'm curious what the ratio is of
Speaker 4: people who gasped because they thought, like me, that you
Speaker 4: can't put super glue in an open, uncleaned wound, and
Speaker 4: also the people who already knew that, So grow us
Speaker 4: a comment. Let us know just where you were on that,
Speaker 4: because you just kind of blew my mind that that's
Speaker 4: even and it's a possibility.
Speaker 2: So hey, if you're if you're in the wilderness, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're a big camping guy, but keep
Speaker 2: some super glue on you, I guess.
Speaker 4: So man, Wow, okay, anyway, wow got on, We got
Speaker 4: off the rails. So it took you and I about
Speaker 4: forty seconds of talking about the episode before we went
Speaker 4: on a ten minute diatribe about injuries and wild.
Speaker 2: It's my fault every time. I'm so sorry. I feel
Speaker 2: I just feel like I can talk to you, Rob,
Speaker 2: That's it. I just I feel like I can tell
Speaker 2: you anything.
Speaker 4: That's why I wasn't trying to wrap you up. I
Speaker 4: wanted to know where that story went. And you know,
Speaker 4: it got us the super glue.
Speaker 2: It sure did. Well. No super glue for Quinn's wound.
Speaker 2: That that thing is gnarly and it's going to take
Speaker 2: some time to recover. But I did really like seeing
Speaker 2: Quinn and Clay happy. I liked seeing them, like seeing
Speaker 2: him up and about getting I mean getting ready to
Speaker 2: get out of the hospital. H you guys got all
Speaker 2: dressed up, which is so cute.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Did you find it funny that there was hospital
Speaker 4: staff mixed in with some of the friends outside the hospital?
Speaker 2: Okay, I wasn't sure. If you want to talk about
Speaker 2: the end, Yes, I did think. I did think that
Speaker 2: was really strange. Look, I loved the line. First of all,
Speaker 2: if we're going to talk about the hospital stuff, I
Speaker 2: loved the line that you said, they wheeled us into
Speaker 2: this place, we're walking out, they will us in we're
Speaker 2: walking out. So good, so strong. I feel like that's
Speaker 2: actually something I could use in life. But yes, I
Speaker 2: did think it was really funny that hospital staff was
Speaker 2: there clapping. Also the handful of confetti that Jackson throws
Speaker 2: that turned into an unending overhead release that just kept
Speaker 2: going like we're at Madison Square Garden as everyone hugs play.
Speaker 2: It was very It was cute but funny.
Speaker 4: Wait, so I didn't notice that? Did we not see
Speaker 4: anyone else with confetti in their hand?
Speaker 2: No? Oh, that I mean not that I noticed.
Speaker 4: Because it looked like a couple of confetti. Cannons went off,
Speaker 4: it sure did. I remember shooting it, and I think
Speaker 4: you even see it in the shot where I'm like,
Speaker 4: my hand is up and I'm actually squinting because I'm
Speaker 4: genuinely like, I this is far too much confetti.
Speaker 2: You just see the one thing, just Jackson, little Jackson
Speaker 2: with his hands, he just yeah, drops one big thing
Speaker 2: and it just keeps going and going and going, like
Speaker 2: one of those birthday candles that you can't blow up.
Speaker 4: That's so funny. Well, yeah, the hospital staff out there,
Speaker 4: I thought to myself, it's I wonder if they realized
Speaker 4: having four cast members, if they just thought it wasn't enough.
Speaker 4: But I just I was laughing, thinking like it would
Speaker 4: be so cool if we panned out and then you
Speaker 4: saw like a patient in distress in one of the windows,
Speaker 4: and there was just no medical staff there because they
Speaker 4: were downstairs cheering for us.
Speaker 2: I love the way your brain works. It's great.
Speaker 4: I just told myself, it's Tree Hill, it's a small hospital.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a slow day and they're very excited for us.
Speaker 4: But I thought, in real life, I mean, I guess, dude,
Speaker 4: we don't need to go off on a tangent whatever
Speaker 4: it's it was sweet.
Speaker 2: It was sweet, But you did really get dressed up.
Speaker 2: This was beyond just looking nice. I mean you were
Speaker 2: really Quinn in that dress and you in that suit.
Speaker 2: That was a big deal.
Speaker 4: My first thought was, that's so much clothing to put
Speaker 4: on when you're that injured.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's kind of what I was thinking too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, that feels like it's your Lululemon jumpsuit
Speaker 4: all day. Yeah, it's a tracksuit, that's it. You know,
Speaker 4: it's sweats and it's a it's a sweatshirt. So the
Speaker 4: fact it was done up I appreciate. Maybe he was
Speaker 4: all hopped up on, you know, goofballs and pain meds,
Speaker 4: but that's a lot of clothing to put on when
Speaker 4: you are just barely past death.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's just it's just, uh, this
Speaker 2: is mental fortitude, right, He's like, I'm going to prove
Speaker 2: I'm not only am I going to walk out of here,
Speaker 2: I'm going to walk out of here in a three
Speaker 2: piece suit. I'm gonna make sure that I'm sending the
Speaker 2: message that I'm ready to roll but quite ambitious, and
Speaker 2: then walking back into the house.
Speaker 4: So what I really wanted. I really desperately want a
Speaker 4: version of that scene where we go back in the
Speaker 4: house and we're just like okay, and then we walk
Speaker 4: into the bedroom and there is still just smeared blood
Speaker 4: stains all over the carpet, and we're just like Nathan
Speaker 4: tried his best. He should have got professionals a little
Speaker 4: call back to the previous episode when he just gets
Speaker 4: down his hands knees with one sponge and a bucket.
Speaker 2: We needed you directing this episode, Oh my gosh. Well no,
Speaker 2: James did a great job, but we needed we needed
Speaker 2: you directing a comedy version of this episode that they
Speaker 2: actually would have let you.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's the gag real version.
Speaker 2: The gag reel version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I for effort Nate, hmm, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean he really clearly that carpet had been replaced,
Speaker 2: the fact that they go back into the same I
Speaker 2: don't think i'd go back into the same bedroom. I
Speaker 2: couldn't just go right back into my bedroom and go
Speaker 2: to sleep. I would have a really hard time with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2: Does Quinn not have a home? Quinn came into tree
Speaker 2: Hill and stayed with Nathan and Haley, and then she
Speaker 2: was like, I'm getting divorced. I'm gonna move in with
Speaker 2: my boyfriend. She just doesn't have a house.
Speaker 4: I think that's right, all right.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you guys could go to her place,
Speaker 2: but I don't think we've seen her place.
Speaker 4: Going with the hole like they wheeled us in, we're
Speaker 4: walking out. It's there is sort of a bravery and
Speaker 4: like I'm not going to be a victim a mentality. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that kind of tracks with I'm going home, get back
Speaker 4: up on the horse. I'm choosing my life. Yep. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to be intimidated. I'm not going to change it.
Speaker 4: So you know all that I kind of get and
Speaker 4: don't bump on the through line of what's next I
Speaker 4: thought was woven through this episode so well.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I loved that.
Speaker 4: It was great man, such such good connective tissue for
Speaker 4: everyone's stories. I love that we're seeing more of Lee
Speaker 4: mm hmm. It's been a very nice, welcome change.
Speaker 2: Trying to find himself, trying to figure out for himself
Speaker 2: what's next.
Speaker 4: This was fun, Yes, and that the first scene with
Speaker 4: James excuse me, with Nathan and Mouth at Rivercourt was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was like sweet friendship. And then they let Lee
Speaker 4: do comedy for basically the rest of the episode, and
Speaker 4: he's so dang funny.
Speaker 2: He's so he always shows up, He's him.
Speaker 4: Mouth's loneliness was so much fun to watch. I mean
Speaker 4: when when Julian comes over and and and I think
Speaker 4: mouth hos line. He goes, hey, uh, would you like
Speaker 4: a soda or a beer? And he goes, no, I'm good.
Speaker 4: And he goes do you have any soda or beer?
Speaker 4: And and then Julian goes, no, I just want to,
Speaker 4: you know, we can do his documentary and he's insistent
Speaker 4: that they started immediately. And then he's like, okay, I
Speaker 4: just want to get your day to day stuff. And
Speaker 4: he comes.
Speaker 2: Out talk about a three piece suit.
Speaker 4: With his hair slicked back, acting just like such a
Speaker 4: Wall Street dude, broo cool, and all the while like
Speaker 4: it's so good and it's so cheesy. And then the
Speaker 4: end of it, he drops a pack of Kondo and goes, oops,
Speaker 4: Magnum condoms. That's embarrassing, Julie. It's like, what y trauma
Speaker 4: have you recently had? Like what? He turns around in
Speaker 4: the tag still on the suit.
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's so good. It felt like a sitcom.
Speaker 2: It was so fun. And what's really great about it
Speaker 2: is the idea of that Julian was that Mouth knew
Speaker 2: that his life was so boring that he was going
Speaker 2: to have to do something, so he goes all out
Speaker 2: for Julian. Julian's like, no, man, I promise, I just
Speaker 2: want your everyday life. And then when he gets it,
Speaker 2: and Mouth is just sitting on the couch picking up
Speaker 2: his toelent and you know, almost ordering something really stupid
Speaker 2: on QBC, and Julian's like, actually.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this.
Speaker 2: Is really bad.
Speaker 4: And then the next scene where Julian's he's packing up
Speaker 4: his equipment and Mouth goes like, hey, man, I'm sure
Speaker 4: you can't stay any longer, and it's Austin killed it.
Speaker 4: He starts to speak, he goes the thing is and
Speaker 4: then there's a knock at the door, and without skipping
Speaker 4: it beat, he goes, thank God and just rushes to
Speaker 4: the door.
Speaker 3: He's so good man.
Speaker 2: I just I love watching our friends do great work,
Speaker 2: you know, like I just want to cheer them on.
Speaker 2: I also, speaking of what you said at the beginning
Speaker 2: with Nathan and Mouth, there is a maturity that we're
Speaker 2: seeing happen with Nathan right now, and I love just
Speaker 2: him being intentional talk. I mean, talk about relying on
Speaker 2: your friends and reaching out to people. Nathan showing up
Speaker 2: to sit down and talk with Mouth and just encourage him.
Speaker 2: It feels like something that we don't see again, we
Speaker 2: don't see modeled a lot for men on television, especially
Speaker 2: at that time. And just to see two guys sitting
Speaker 2: there really genuinely encouraging each other without it being like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're being emotional, this is awkward. It was so cool.
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, good on us.
Speaker 4: Especially for a teenage show. Yeah, you know, it's one
Speaker 4: thing if they there were probably some shows doing it
Speaker 4: with like thirty forty fifty year old guys, but yeah,
Speaker 4: our show was young and cool, so yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 4: very commonplace. But yeah, Nathan's journey lately this whole season
Speaker 4: has been awesome. Yeah, talk about a guy finding himself,
Speaker 4: discovering himself and hitting his stride and it looks good
Speaker 4: on him.
Speaker 2: It sure does. It's a good season. I also we
Speaker 2: should talk about the opening credits on this one. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who the band was. I really appreciate
Speaker 2: that they were trying to just do something different. You know,
Speaker 2: somebody hands you a song and they're like, do your
Speaker 2: own spin on it. You know it's not gonna work
Speaker 2: every time.
Speaker 4: You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't net the ball every single time. But what
Speaker 2: this highlighted for me, Rob silently laughing behind the mike.
Speaker 2: What this highlighted for me is how good Gavin is,
Speaker 2: how good this song is, because the song does work
Speaker 2: in a lot of different contexts, and then it highlights
Speaker 2: how good his version of it is too, and how
Speaker 2: exactly right it is for our show. And not just
Speaker 2: this particular band's version, but all of the versions that
Speaker 2: we're seeing this season. I appreciate different things about all
Speaker 2: of them. It's nice, but every single one of them
Speaker 2: just reminds me, Yeah, we got Gavin de grag guys,
Speaker 2: like his version just really hammers it home.
Speaker 4: I was smiling and laughing because the way you started
Speaker 4: that was the drama Queen's version of Oh Bless his Heart.
Speaker 4: The way you're like, I appreciate that they took a
Speaker 4: different crack at it. I was like, Oh, here we go,
Speaker 4: enjoy talk some shit. You have an opinion on.
Speaker 2: This, I do. I'm sorry, Look, I don't get it
Speaker 2: right every time either, So yes, you do and who
Speaker 2: am I kidding? Yeah? But so anyway, just a reiteration
Speaker 2: of how much we love GABT. We should bring Gavin
Speaker 2: on this podcast True Time.
Speaker 4: Don't you think Gavin's watched the show?
Speaker 2: I actually don't know. I should ask him if he's
Speaker 2: watched the show.
Speaker 4: He's going to start and.
Speaker 2: Talk to him in ages. Yeah, he guests starred on it,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if he ever sat down to
Speaker 2: actually watch it. He doesn't seem to me like someone
Speaker 2: who enjoys sitting down and watching himself on television. I
Speaker 2: feel like Gavin keeps his head down, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll reach out. I haven't. It would be fun
Speaker 2: to have him on.
Speaker 4: Speaking of keeping your head down. Should we discuss the
Speaker 4: prison of it all?
Speaker 2: Please? Let's discuss the prison of the prison hair of
Speaker 2: it all?
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get ahead of ourselves, because I have a
Speaker 4: specific hair question for you. At the end of the episode,
Speaker 4: when Victoria, they just do one shot they cut to
Speaker 4: Victoria watching it in the big House. Yeah, and she
Speaker 4: has a different hairstyle where it's essentially like they took
Speaker 4: all of her hair and then just flipped it all back.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the helmet, it's like a helmet.
Speaker 4: So is that a was that a look? Is that
Speaker 4: supposed to be a prison thing? Because it was the
Speaker 4: only time we've ever seen it, and I immediately was like,
Speaker 4: what the hell is that?
Speaker 2: It might have been or I don't know, Daphne is
Speaker 2: she might have just run her hands through her hair
Speaker 2: before the take and been like, I just want it
Speaker 2: out of my face. I just want it out of
Speaker 2: the way. As long as it's just out, it's fine.
Speaker 2: It is kind of like it's like a Dynasty pompadour look. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it looked great on her, but it's definitely
Speaker 2: more of like a Robert Palmer girl eighties. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if they did that on purpose or if
Speaker 2: she just ran Either way, whatever she did, she just
Speaker 2: manages to look fabulous all the time. But okay, if
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about this and the prison stuff
Speaker 2: before we get into the character detail, did you notice
Speaker 2: that brook So she comes to prison to talk to Victoria,
Speaker 2: then she leaves, she talks to somebody else I can't
Speaker 2: remember what it was, who says, you really need to
Speaker 2: go say all these things to Victoria so she goes
Speaker 2: and then it's like immediately she's just there sitting back down,
Speaker 2: same outfit. I guess it's all in one day, but
Speaker 2: it just felt really strange. It felt it felt like
Speaker 2: we just shot both scenes at the same time, which
Speaker 2: we did, and I don't know. I was a little confused.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe like time had gone by, but just
Speaker 2: seems like it's so hard to drive all the way
Speaker 2: to prison. Like the prison's not just like Entrey Hill, right,
Speaker 2: It's got to be kind of far out of town.
Speaker 2: It's like she's in the state penitentiary, isn't she.
Speaker 4: I didn't notice it, okay, it it would have been
Speaker 4: funny if she was like, I want to put on
Speaker 4: my most pissed off outfit. She's just spite changing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like leather jacket, like diamond earrings, hair
Speaker 2: slicked back. SI, okay, go Brooke.
Speaker 4: I had this question as I watched that first scene
Speaker 4: where Victoria really just comes down super hard on her
Speaker 4: and takes it so intense, real real, like crummy shots
Speaker 4: at her, like beyond disappointment. She says some things that
Speaker 4: are just straight up cruel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: For me having come late to this party, I felt
Speaker 4: like it was way out of character, and I found
Speaker 4: myself going, so like, has this whole thing been an act?
Speaker 2: Or wait?
Speaker 4: Where is this?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Everyone? Is? This? Who she was? Seasons one through six?
Speaker 2: Well, she wasn't in the show until season Wait when
Speaker 2: did she come on? Was it five? I didn't realize
Speaker 2: she was on so long before you. So yes, okay
Speaker 2: Victoria five. Okay, so she's just before you. So the
Speaker 2: whole arc when she first comes in is just what
Speaker 2: a nightmare she is, how difficult her relationship is with
Speaker 2: Brooke because they I mean, they have no relationship because
Speaker 2: she's always been on the road or dismissive of hers
Speaker 2: Brooke was left to fend for herself, and Victoria is
Speaker 2: conniving and always doing some kind of underhanded thing and
Speaker 2: you can never trust her, and she's like the Dan Scott.
Speaker 2: So the fact that Victoria and Brooke have gotten to
Speaker 2: where they were when you joined the show and then
Speaker 2: progressed in that way, it's been this massive redemptive arc
Speaker 2: to watch Brooke and her mom find a relationship and
Speaker 2: to watch a woman who was really hardened and manipulative
Speaker 2: to trust and soften and find the parts of herself
Speaker 2: that are vulnerable and want the best of her daughter
Speaker 2: and admit that she's that she wants to be a
Speaker 2: mom and not resent Brook for making her a mom.
Speaker 2: So it's yes, to answer your question, there have always
Speaker 2: been like she was talking about how I never wanted
Speaker 2: to get pregnant, you know, I had to have you,
Speaker 2: and like it was really horrible below the belt stuff,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, it's been a big redemptive arc. But
Speaker 2: now to see Victoria's all the clause, all the insecurities
Speaker 2: just making the worst of her come out in this
Speaker 2: moment in prison, it's so devastating because you think, oh,
Speaker 2: she's come so far. Did she really come so far?
Speaker 2: And it's just old habits die hard and the insecurity
Speaker 2: reflexes are causing her to self protect or was all
Speaker 2: of it still some form of manipulation or like building
Speaker 2: a false identity of like, well, okay, I can I
Speaker 2: can find my value as a quote unquote good human.
Speaker 2: I can redeem myself if I'm a good mother, And
Speaker 2: by being a good mother that means sacrificing myself for
Speaker 2: the company. But if Brooke foils that plan and takes
Speaker 2: the company away, then her sacrifices for nothing. In her
Speaker 2: mind so then that would affect her identity. I guess
Speaker 2: was my armchair psychology version of it. But it was sad.
Speaker 2: It was really sad to see all that come out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, So if you haven't seen that part
Speaker 2: of Victoria at all, were you completely thrown for a loop?
Speaker 4: Partially not entirely, because I've obviously like gleaned enough from
Speaker 4: like comments made and just conversations that we've had around
Speaker 4: the show that she was a terrible mom. It was
Speaker 4: It wasn't like I was having an issue because it
Speaker 4: didn't make sense to me. It's like, listen, like you said,
Speaker 4: her plan just got upended, she's in prison, it could
Speaker 4: be going terribly. We haven't like there's a million reasons
Speaker 4: why she would be spread thin and just snap. It
Speaker 4: was more for me that I was sad because I
Speaker 4: have been loving watching her and Brooke like start over
Speaker 4: and form this beautiful thing, and it just made me go, oh,
Speaker 4: you're you're damaging that so bad right now, And it
Speaker 4: makes me question like if it's all been sincere so long.
Speaker 2: So much effort put into building and repairing this relationship,
Speaker 2: and she just throws it all away the second that
Speaker 2: her I mean it's pretty high stakes. She's in prison
Speaker 2: and she thought she was making a sacrifice that was
Speaker 2: going to pay off on the other end, and it didn't.
Speaker 2: She just has to suffer the consequences of her actions
Speaker 2: with no payoff.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. It's also though you're in prison, you have
Speaker 4: nothing to do except think, so you would you would
Speaker 4: assume that after she walked away and she had a
Speaker 4: chance to cool down, though, she would be like, shoot, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I gotta walk some of those things way back. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, she's clearly been not self reflective during her time
Speaker 2: in prison. She's got her assistant, a Dell, and she's
Speaker 2: been making all of her plans for how to move
Speaker 2: the company forward. So now what is she going to do?
Speaker 2: Oh Victoria, I.
Speaker 4: Loved the runner throughout the episode of Nathan avoiding talking
Speaker 4: about things, and yeah, it's so great that Jamie such
Speaker 4: the wise owl. I love that the show constantly makes
Speaker 4: him sort of the wise owl, like from the mouth
Speaker 4: of Babes. Because first of all, there's the bit where
Speaker 4: it's actually in the same conversation when Nathan hasn't told
Speaker 4: Clay and Jamie essentially goes, of course, you haven't, like
Speaker 4: you avoid things and He's like, what, No, I don't.
Speaker 4: That's the beginning of the runner. But then there's this
Speaker 4: incredible line that Jamie has where he says, I wish
Speaker 4: you were a Bobcat and I know you do too,
Speaker 4: And I figure, if you're not playing, you must really
Speaker 4: think it's for the best. And if I can understand that,
Speaker 4: Clay will too, so wisdom and perspective from him. So
Speaker 4: it was a very sweet moment between the two. But
Speaker 4: then it's this awesome thing where Julian shows up at
Speaker 4: the house as Nathan's leaving. There's also the exchange about
Speaker 4: it's a bag, it's a man, perse so sachel or whatever,
Speaker 4: which I have to say though even in that moment
Speaker 4: I didn't even really mind, even though it's like so obvious.
Speaker 4: They just tried to do everything they could to make
Speaker 4: Julian like not a sexy leading man and they failed.
Speaker 4: But I liked that their banter has gotten way less
Speaker 4: pointed and much more more playful. Yes, because they were
Speaker 4: in the driveway, which reminded me of when they were
Speaker 4: in the driveway last season for the camping episode, and
Speaker 4: out of nowhere, Nathan is just a.
Speaker 2: Jer why is he? He was so rude to him.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what we decided, but I know I
Speaker 2: remember us talking about this, like what the heck, dude,
Speaker 2: why do you why?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Whereas now? And this one I went, okay, there,
Speaker 4: these are just two. These are two pals giving each
Speaker 4: other grief. Yeah, like this is great, but I love
Speaker 4: it because Nathan goes Juicy Clay and he goes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was just there and he goes, you didn't tell
Speaker 4: him about my decision, did you? And he says, uh no,
Speaker 4: Jamie told me that you have avoid talking about things.
Speaker 4: And Nathan has a callback to his previous scene with
Speaker 4: Jamie where he goes, I'm totally going to take his
Speaker 4: PlayStation because he says something to Jamie like if you
Speaker 4: do this, I'll take away your PlayStation or whatever. But
Speaker 4: like it's this great thing. And then it's Nathan again
Speaker 4: being self aware and actually caring, so he starts kind
Speaker 4: of crowdsourcing. He goes to Haley and he's like, hey,
Speaker 4: do I avoid things?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And at first Haley's like, no, I don't think so,
Speaker 4: and he's like yeah the Clay thing, You're like, oh no,
Speaker 4: you're absolutely avoiding that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Side note the crossbody bag. What people don't know is
Speaker 2: that our creator had a real issue with girls wearing
Speaker 2: purses across their bodies for some reason, and we got
Speaker 2: like an official note, like a ban on crossbody purses
Speaker 2: for all the girls. So you'll notice at some point
Speaker 2: we all stop wearing our purses over our shoulders. I
Speaker 2: guess it wasn't sexy.
Speaker 4: That is a weird thing to have a strong take on,
Speaker 4: don't you thinks I do?
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, desperately clawing for control. I remember once
Speaker 2: we were walking through the scene we all had our
Speaker 2: purses on and said somebody probably script you. I don't
Speaker 2: know if somebody came up and was like, so we've
Speaker 2: been asked for you to take your purses off your
Speaker 2: shoulder and put it on your other shoulder. We're like like,
Speaker 2: switch sides. Is it bad for camera? And they're like no,
Speaker 2: like not across your body because this is a wardrobe issue,
Speaker 2: is it? Why? This is how everyone this is how
Speaker 2: we were person like every go look at every single
Speaker 2: girl on this college campus, and they're like, no, it's
Speaker 2: a coming from the top down. Oh my god, okay,
Speaker 2: fine whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's an odd one. Yeah, that's one of those
Speaker 4: ones where you just shake your.
Speaker 2: Head and shake your head. So anyway, Julian's crossbody purse
Speaker 2: made me a bag whatever made me maybe think what a.
Speaker 4: Double standard that the women on the show couldn't do it,
Speaker 4: but Julian, who they were trying to make into a
Speaker 4: woman could.
Speaker 2: He only made it look better.
Speaker 4: I know, man, I did so did.
Speaker 2: But yes, I love Nathan crowdsourcing the feedback again, more
Speaker 2: maturity for him. I thought that was great. And I
Speaker 2: also loved how he really comes through at the end
Speaker 2: and puts an interview on Mouth's website knowing that Math
Speaker 2: is having a hard time and he's just trying to
Speaker 2: figure out his way, and Nathan's like, come on, man,
Speaker 2: let me help you out.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 2: One thing our show did really well is friends helping
Speaker 2: friends and talking each other through it and really showing
Speaker 2: how valuable it is to have a community around you
Speaker 2: of people and everybody serves a different role in different ways.
Speaker 2: You need a community, You need people around you who
Speaker 2: are going to lift you up, and we did that
Speaker 2: really well.
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, I agree. I think we just had
Speaker 4: this conversation a couple of episodes ago, right, I kind
Speaker 4: of said, oh, I've realized this is this is just
Speaker 4: a show about friendship. Yeah, that's just the crux of
Speaker 4: the show. It's just friendship. And it's getting cooler because
Speaker 4: now that characters are maturing or getting to see really meaningful,
Speaker 4: deep relationships and friendships between the characters. Speaking of which,
Speaker 4: when Nathan goes to the hospital, she breaks the news
Speaker 4: to Clay. This was also so relatable because how many
Speaker 4: times in your own life have you been so nervous
Speaker 4: to have to say something to someone and you let
Speaker 4: it eat you up inside and you imagine every way
Speaker 4: could go wrong, and then you share whatever it is
Speaker 4: you have to share with them and you are met
Speaker 4: with the opposite and it's like, yeah, love or warmth
Speaker 4: or understanding, and it's like, oh, why did I wait
Speaker 4: so long to do that?
Speaker 2: Yes, many many times. And the maturity that Clay has
Speaker 2: earned in this experience as well of perspective, and maybe
Speaker 2: he would have responded, I mean, you'll have to tell me.
Speaker 2: Maybe he would have responded that way no matter what.
Speaker 2: But he didn't even take a second. There wasn't one
Speaker 2: moment where Clay was like thought of himself and of
Speaker 2: what was going to go down now that Nathan's not
Speaker 2: I mean you the choice that you made to just
Speaker 2: have him immediately be empathetic with what Nathan must have
Speaker 2: been going through. It showed so much maturity for Clay
Speaker 2: of the perspective that happens when you go through something
Speaker 2: really difficult. He just it puts everything into perspective. And
Speaker 2: I loved seeing that and the fact that you guys
Speaker 2: are now.
Speaker 3: Going to go into business together and that he wants
Speaker 3: to be an agent.
Speaker 2: I was like, yay, standing up and cheering, Yes, go Nathan.
Speaker 2: I want to see this next leg in his life
Speaker 2: and the two of you guys together. Finally we're going
Speaker 2: to get you back the way that you were when
Speaker 2: you first showed up on the show and everything was
Speaker 2: fast and moving and happy and good and craving that
Speaker 2: from the two of you. Need more more buddy comedy
Speaker 2: from you too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so excited to see where that goes. And
Speaker 4: back to that moment though, I love yes because I
Speaker 4: remember thinking that this was this was a great opportunity
Speaker 4: to see how much Clay cared about Nathan, like the man,
Speaker 4: not the client. So yeah, the choice to not take
Speaker 4: a beat and the first words are Nate tells him,
Speaker 4: and Clay says I'm sorry, Nate, that's got to be
Speaker 4: really hard for you. Yeah, which was just so kind,
Speaker 4: you know that. Yeah, there was zero business involved. And
Speaker 4: then he goes on to say, your health comes first,
Speaker 4: your family comes first. And I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 4: that's a good friend right there. That's a dude who
Speaker 4: cares about you. Yeah, because the truth is he just
Speaker 4: did lose a big chunk of money, A big chunk
Speaker 4: of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's so dropped into his body, which I
Speaker 2: think is also something that happens when you go through
Speaker 2: a really intense traumatic experience and you come out on
Speaker 2: the other side of it. There's a there's a weight
Speaker 2: to your understanding of what's valuable, what's the most valuable
Speaker 2: thing in life? And it's just right at the that's
Speaker 2: on the tip of his tongue. He's ready with that
Speaker 2: guttural weighted empathy.
Speaker 4: Clay's like, listen, buddy, I was just eating pudding with
Speaker 4: a ghost. Okay, I don't care. I only want you
Speaker 4: to be healthy and happy. It's like, what dude, ghost pudding?
Speaker 2: Ghost putting? Wait when you Okay, he walks in and
Speaker 2: you you were doing something with your hand, were you eating?
Speaker 2: Were you you were trying to feed yourself with your hand? Right?
Speaker 2: Are you right or left handed?
Speaker 4: In real life? I'm right handed? Oh okay, I also
Speaker 4: so obviously I think I played Clay right handed, which
Speaker 4: is why it's such a struggle for him because we
Speaker 4: go on to see him struggling doing all the stuff.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I remember how Yeah, everything he does with
Speaker 4: his right is super impacted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, random question. Sorry, I just wondered when I was
Speaker 2: when we were watching.
Speaker 4: Could you imagine if I was if I was left handed?
Speaker 4: But I just felt like Clay should be right handed,
Speaker 4: and I taught myself to write right handed just for
Speaker 4: the role.
Speaker 2: So uh, it's so like who does that kind of stuff?
Speaker 2: Like Christian Bale, Joaquin Phoenix, like these guys who do
Speaker 2: super super mepid.
Speaker 4: Stuff, Like yeah, I'm the Daniel day Lewis of mediocre acting.
Speaker 4: So I trained my body to write right handed. It's
Speaker 4: like you never saw the character write right handed. Well,
Speaker 4: I wanted to be ready in case we did.
Speaker 2: I can drive ambidexterously, but I can't write ambidextrously.
Speaker 4: Joy, please tell the listeners what that means. Ambidextrous both
Speaker 4: hands and we all know the word ambidextris. Tell tell
Speaker 4: us all, because I'm curious, what does it mean that
Speaker 4: you can drive ambidextrously.
Speaker 2: Well, I learned on a stick ship, so I'm okay,
Speaker 2: I'm used to using both feet. I guess it's you know,
Speaker 2: once you learn how to ride a bike like it
Speaker 2: never goes away. So that's the way I learned how
Speaker 2: to drive. And then I obviously haven't automatic now because
Speaker 2: I don't drive a car from nine to day far.
Speaker 2: But I uh, I don't know. I just drive with
Speaker 2: both feet sometimes put my foot, my left foot on
Speaker 2: the brake, my right foot on the.
Speaker 4: Cat This is this is exactly what happens when we
Speaker 4: record it. No, it's just that you were the first
Speaker 4: person in history to rather than go, oh, I can drive,
Speaker 4: I can drive a manual or automatic, to actually say
Speaker 4: I can drive ambidextrously. I would love for you to
Speaker 4: go to the into the DMV or next job you
Speaker 4: have where they ask if you can drive a stick
Speaker 4: if you just went yes, I am an ambidextrous driver.
Speaker 4: Just watch them stand there quietly trying to decode what
Speaker 4: it is you're saying.
Speaker 2: Well, other good friendship stuff. Brooke and Hayley under the bridge.
Speaker 2: I remember shooting this scene. I love this. Both of
Speaker 2: my scenes with Sophia in this episode I really loved.
Speaker 2: I remember, if I'm looking at my notes now, it felt,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it did feel a little rash and expositional.
Speaker 2: I remember that, like I got there, I sat down,
Speaker 2: we said the things, and then I leave, And I
Speaker 2: did wish that we had had time to just dry
Speaker 2: it out a little bit more. But I was so
Speaker 2: happy to see the two of them just spending a
Speaker 2: little time connecting, even though Haley was rushing around everywhere
Speaker 2: like mothering everyone in this whole episode, as she tends
Speaker 2: to do. That felt really good. And also when she
Speaker 2: goes over to close over bros. And sees her sitting
Speaker 2: down on the ground, and I really remember that scene.
Speaker 2: I wish Sophia was here because I wonder what she
Speaker 2: remembers about that scene. I don't know why I remember
Speaker 2: it so well. I don't know if she and I
Speaker 2: were like in a fight and then we had to
Speaker 2: shoot that scene, or if we were like just really disconnected.
Speaker 2: There was something going on, and I remember sitting down
Speaker 2: and shooting that scene, and like I remember having to
Speaker 2: go to a place of like, you know, what I
Speaker 2: love her, I love her and reach into that place
Speaker 2: and do the scene from there and in that moment
Speaker 2: feeling so much love for her and so connected to her,
Speaker 2: and so like, this is what I want our friendship
Speaker 2: to be like. And there was So I was in
Speaker 2: so much turmoil in my personal life, and I had
Speaker 2: such a disconnect with so many people and really complicated
Speaker 2: issues with friendship across the board with anybody that wasn't
Speaker 2: in this weird group with me. So this scene, for
Speaker 2: some reason, every time I see it when I think
Speaker 2: about Sofa and I shooting episodes of win Tree Hill,
Speaker 2: this is one of the top like three that come
Speaker 2: up for me that I deeply remember sitting down and
Speaker 2: having this moment of like, oh, I want to be
Speaker 2: friends with her like this. So it made me kind
Speaker 2: of emotional watching that one.
Speaker 4: Is this the scene where she has a little speech
Speaker 4: about all her success and hard work was just about
Speaker 4: getting her mom to love her and be proud of her. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Oh I was so good man, Yeah, so relatable, so vulnerable.
Speaker 4: It was great. And then is it I think it's
Speaker 4: later in the episode. I believe it's later that you
Speaker 4: guys hang out again where you give her the advice
Speaker 4: where you say, like, don't focus on your work, focus
Speaker 4: on your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the scene I'm talking about. Sitting in
Speaker 2: it closed over bros. Okay, yeah, yeah, and it's it's
Speaker 2: so nice. It's so great to see Sophia does this
Speaker 2: so well, the emotional arc of her character. You know,
Speaker 2: she could flat back and forth between comedy and and
Speaker 2: very serious drama pretty quickly. And she wasn't doing a
Speaker 2: ton of comedy in this episode, but it felt like
Speaker 2: that she's the smirks and all the little like realities
Speaker 2: of life are on the surface.
Speaker 4: Boh wait, she did have a great small piece of comedy.
Speaker 4: This is another one of those moments where you killed
Speaker 4: me and then she comes in shortly after and is
Speaker 4: an assassin with one look. It's when the two of you, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it's just the two of you go to
Speaker 4: trick and you walk up in me as there and
Speaker 4: she goes, guys, guys, guys, be honest with me. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: look at them. Are they sleeping together? Talking about Alex
Speaker 4: and Chase who are in the background. And the look
Speaker 4: on your face when she starts to like go back
Speaker 4: and watch this, because before she like even really gets
Speaker 4: into it. It's you have this look on your face
Speaker 4: that is so damn funny, and then you look and
Speaker 4: they're obviously like sleeping together, and you're like, no, no,
Speaker 4: I don't think so. And while you're doing that, watch Sophia's.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was watching her face. I didn't see
Speaker 2: mine that I will go back. Look that's it was great.
Speaker 2: She was an assassin. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: It was so good because she's like, I'm on board,
Speaker 4: A'm on board, and then she hears the horrible lie
Speaker 4: coming out of your mouth and has zero poker face
Speaker 4: about it. He's just like, what do you reize? Oh?
Speaker 4: It was so good.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Chase and oh my god, Alex, she's like,
Speaker 2: what is her name? Chase and Alex. Uh. This was
Speaker 2: kind of a big deal that he finds this script
Speaker 2: in the bar where she's like, did she take this
Speaker 2: job as a bartender and start dating him because she's
Speaker 2: doing research for her role.
Speaker 4: That was such a a clever detail to add. Yes,
Speaker 4: because if it had just been any movie, all right, yeah,
Speaker 4: she's an actress who's popular, like it's it's inevitable, right,
Speaker 4: But the fact she was playing a bartender who is
Speaker 4: having a romance with the bar manager. It did make
Speaker 4: you go, oh, this is way too similar to what
Speaker 4: you're doing right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, I wonder how he's gonna handle this, because that
Speaker 2: is what I like about Chase is I feel like
Speaker 2: he's actually Chase feels reliable to me as somebody with
Speaker 2: a backbone that's not easy to manipulate. Like. He seems
Speaker 2: like a character that is so settled in himself that
Speaker 2: this girl, I don't know, if he finds out that
Speaker 2: this actually is what she's doing and she tries to
Speaker 2: kind of weasel out of it, I don't think he's
Speaker 2: gonna I don't think he's gonna stick around. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, I think what we see is when he so
Speaker 4: fast forward to the end of the episode, he goes
Speaker 4: to her hotel and he's like, hey, what the hell
Speaker 4: is this? Yeah, she's like, ah, it's a script and
Speaker 4: I he basically just goes, how long have you known?
Speaker 4: And she wasn't being forthright with him, And what's cool
Speaker 4: is that he does He's just like, I'm out, Yeah, thanks,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to wait around for you. This doesn't
Speaker 4: feel good. I'm gone. But then the next bit of
Speaker 4: her the last piece we see of her is her
Speaker 4: leaving her hotel room, and it made me laugh because
Speaker 4: of two things. One, she's been in tree Hill for
Speaker 4: months and the only piece of luggage we see her
Speaker 4: leaving with is a carry on side suitcase.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the times Millie's gone to her closet
Speaker 2: and just been like rifling through the hundreds of.
Speaker 4: Clothes, yes, and that's that's super nipicky because you could
Speaker 4: say Bell hop already came and took every big bag,
Speaker 4: So that's that's whatever. But it still is funny that
Speaker 4: like she's now I'm leaving town with what I came with,
Speaker 4: and it's like, you've been here for half a year.
Speaker 4: But then the better part is as she's walking out,
Speaker 4: you see that she left the framed photo excuse me,
Speaker 4: the framed movie poster of herself on the hotel wall.
Speaker 2: What how do you notice these things?
Speaker 4: Just saw? You gotta go because here's like, it's the
Speaker 4: most hilarious thing because it actually says so much more
Speaker 4: about her character and it's so interesting that like, what
Speaker 4: is the kind of person that hangs up framed things
Speaker 4: in a hotel room?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 4: Let alone, it's a giant, full size movie poster of yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no pictures of her family, there's no pictures of
Speaker 2: anybody meaningful to her.
Speaker 4: And she doesn't even think like, ah, I'm gonna take
Speaker 4: it with me, or I'm gonna at least pull the
Speaker 4: poster oute. She's like, no, I'm gonna leave the framed
Speaker 4: poster of myself on the hotel wall.
Speaker 2: Someone want to see that.
Speaker 4: They fuddle the housekeeping staff.
Speaker 2: No, it's a gift for the next guest. They're going
Speaker 2: to enjoy looking at her because she's who she.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that being her thinking. But yeah,
Speaker 4: that made me laugh. I was like, oh my, I
Speaker 4: had never really thought about it while she was still
Speaker 4: living there, but the fact that she was saying goodbye
Speaker 4: to the room and leaving it on the wall just
Speaker 4: killed me.
Speaker 2: That's so good. Wow. Well, there was so much about
Speaker 2: so much in this episode that felt like it was
Speaker 2: about healing, you know, Nathan moving on to a new phase,
Speaker 2: and Quinn and Clay healing and moving on into the next,
Speaker 2: into the next thing. You know, what happens next, what's next?
Speaker 2: Brooke in Victoria, Brooke, the company's disappearing, but she's healed
Speaker 2: in her heart in a way It's like she's cleansed
Speaker 2: herself of all of the guilt and the concern and
Speaker 2: the things that went wrong. So that feels really good.
Speaker 2: Mouth healing from his depression and just feeling like he's
Speaker 2: in a rut. I love that too. Yeah, and go ahead,
Speaker 2: what were we gonna say?
Speaker 4: I love that Jamie is worried about his dad and
Speaker 4: he says to Haley, he says, is dad gonna be okay?
Speaker 4: Because last time he wasn't okay? And Haley has that
Speaker 4: great line where she says, he is because last time
Speaker 4: basketball left your dad and this time your dad is
Speaker 4: leaving basketball. And then there's like a couple little lines
Speaker 4: and then you, yeh a perfect button. You go, I
Speaker 4: can't guarantee Chester won't start drinking, and then you guys
Speaker 4: laugh and the scene ends, and I was like, oh, perfect,
Speaker 4: perfect joke at the end of.
Speaker 2: That's so cute. I loved it. I'm so it's good.
Speaker 2: I was happy with this episode.
Speaker 4: Okay, one last question for you. Did you notice when
Speaker 4: it's towards the very very end, there's a quick quick
Speaker 4: scene of not much of a scene. It's just sort
Speaker 4: of like a vignette part of a vignette where Nathan
Speaker 4: and Jamie are outside playing catch and it pans up
Speaker 4: to Haley in the window watching them. Did you notice
Speaker 4: how pregnant you looked in that shot?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I didn't. I maybe it was the angle, but it
Speaker 4: was odd because you looked super pregnant.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I wonder if we shot that later, like it
Speaker 2: could have like we could have shot that, you know,
Speaker 2: as a pick up a couple of weeks later or something,
Speaker 2: because I was definitely growing.
Speaker 4: I think you're, yeah, maybe you do like a little
Speaker 4: belly rub on it, but it's like it's nothing you've
Speaker 4: done up to that point. So anyways, I just thought
Speaker 4: it was aucus. I was like, did we shoot this
Speaker 4: at a different time because Haley looks considerably more pregnant.
Speaker 2: We might have It is kind of fun watching myself
Speaker 2: pregnant on TV. That's fun to see like little Maria growing,
Speaker 2: so exciting.
Speaker 4: Honorable mention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess mouth like Lee Norris just had so
Speaker 2: much fun with his material. I was really I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed watching him play. You know, he's always fun. What
Speaker 2: about you?
Speaker 4: Lee was great? I'll give mine to There's a really
Speaker 4: funny moment, unintentionally funny when Brooke has realized she's like,
Speaker 4: you know, gonna be losing a lot of her money
Speaker 4: in the business, and she's going through her dream wedding
Speaker 4: book and she's removing pages. Yeah, and it's so funny
Speaker 4: to me that her life is so long pineapple cake
Speaker 4: and red velvet cupcakes. And I just found myself laughing, going,
Speaker 4: those have got to be the two cheapest components of
Speaker 4: your wedding, Yes, for sure. Why are those the two
Speaker 4: that are going? I just thought it was so so
Speaker 4: funny that like, that's what the riders picked as opposed
Speaker 4: to like so long vineyard destination.
Speaker 2: Yes, flowers from Para's shipped in from Paris.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oysters from New England whatever it is. Instead, it
Speaker 4: was like so long the two things I can make
Speaker 4: in my kitchen.
Speaker 2: I love that you noticed stuff like this. Great sood Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: we have a listener question from Steph real quick. Steph
Speaker 2: wants to know if you could bring any one real
Speaker 2: character back for one season, who would it be.
Speaker 4: And why you know who I would bring back? C Yes,
Speaker 4: Quentin because every time I see Robbie it's an immediate
Speaker 4: love fest, which is funny because we never had anything
Speaker 4: together so the first time we crossed paths, like we
Speaker 4: didn't know each other, but I had seen his work
Speaker 4: and I thought it was great, and so I came
Speaker 4: in hot like dude, you're great, and he matched my energy.
Speaker 4: So now we only see each other like at conventions,
Speaker 4: but every single time he's just so warm and kind
Speaker 4: and has such great energy that I would have loved
Speaker 4: to have gotten to actually play and work with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can actually see the two of you getting
Speaker 2: along really well. He's he's like you, very dropped into
Speaker 2: his body, very astute, notices everything, doesn't comment on everything,
Speaker 2: but just you can tell he's noticing it all, and
Speaker 2: he also doesn't. One of my favorite things about Robbie
Speaker 2: is that he doesn't let he in his conversation. He
Speaker 2: calls people up to an elevated way of communicating. Somebody's
Speaker 2: throwing out an offhand comment that just sounds like rhetoric,
Speaker 2: or if it sounds like they're exaggerating or whatever, he
Speaker 2: is so great at just mirroring it back like really,
Speaker 2: oh that oh interesting, Like why do you say that
Speaker 2: in particular? And it's not like a poking or a goating,
Speaker 2: it's really like a say what you mean? Like don't
Speaker 2: just go around talking like mean what you say and
Speaker 2: say what you mean. I love it. It's one of
Speaker 2: my favorite things about him, aside from the fact that
Speaker 2: he's just jovial and one of those like glass half
Speaker 2: full all the time kind of people, but can also
Speaker 2: really drop into a deep conversation anyway, it doesn't surprise
Speaker 2: me that you guys get along so well, and I
Speaker 2: miss him and I would definitely bring you back. And
Speaker 2: my second place for that would be Michayla McManus because
Speaker 2: I just love having her around too. She's so great.
Speaker 4: Another one we had nothing together and we did a
Speaker 4: convention in Wilmington last year and it was one of
Speaker 4: those these moments are so funny, right, Like I get
Speaker 4: on the plane at Lax and you know how you
Speaker 4: kind of have like actor radar, Like anytime you're flying
Speaker 4: to Vancouver, you can just tell that one person with
Speaker 4: the baseball hat super low. You're like, all right, what
Speaker 4: sure are they on? Fly to will No? We fly
Speaker 4: from like like La to wherever the connecting flight is
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, I wonder if that's that's someone,
Speaker 4: Like I wonder who that is? And then on the
Speaker 4: puddle jumper into Wilmington. We're literally seated next to each
Speaker 4: other and it's Mikayla. Oh and we've never like properly
Speaker 4: caught up, but we had like this one and a
Speaker 4: half hour flight, and she was so lovely and wonderful,
Speaker 4: exactly like you said. I found myself going like, damn it,
Speaker 4: I would love to be your friend and to have
Speaker 4: like gotten a chance to work with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree, she's just so fantastic. Well, maybe in
Speaker 2: an their life, let's spin a wheel. Folks most likely.
Speaker 3: To get caught sneaking into a concert?
Speaker 4: Hillary?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably Hillary.
Speaker 4: It just immediately felt like a Hilary story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right. Would she just would would
Speaker 2: Hillary just be the sneaking in person, or would she
Speaker 2: actually get caught?
Speaker 4: Oh, she would get caught, but then she would be
Speaker 4: Hillary and the security w'd be like, you're awesome, get
Speaker 4: in here, and now they have Thanksgivings together. It be
Speaker 4: like one of us.
Speaker 2: Sounds about right. That sounds about right. Okay, Friends, next episode,
Speaker 2: Season eight, episode six, Not afraid. We'll see you next week,
Speaker 2: and we have stuff with us next week too. We'll
Speaker 2: see it then.
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