Speaker 1: Hell I Suck It Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven
Speaker 1: and I Heard Radio Podcast. Welcome back to an all
Speaker 1: new episode of Help I Suck It Dating. We're coming
Speaker 1: at you from different parts of the world, just like
Speaker 1: we have been for the past few months, in the
Speaker 1: wake of our last episode where we got to speak
Speaker 1: with dr Ish and Jubilie. If you haven't had the
Speaker 1: chance to check that one out, be sure to tune
Speaker 1: tune into that one. It's it's definitely worth your list,
Speaker 1: and they're both incredibly insightful. We got a great episode
Speaker 1: for everyone today. We are going to be talking with
Speaker 1: Tasia Adams, one of our recurring wonderful guests. Later on
Speaker 1: in the show, Jared also discovered a few interesting articles
Speaker 1: regarding the novel Coronavirus that I think he wants to
Speaker 1: run over with us as well. Jared, what do you got? Hello, Dean?
Speaker 1: How are you? Oh? I'm so sorry. I didn't even
Speaker 1: ask how you are. I'm great, Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for you don't have to Oh no, no, I didn't
Speaker 1: mean it that way. My bad. That came off. I
Speaker 1: was just saying hello as if like, how are you?
Speaker 1: Because you're recording from your van and so you're like
Speaker 1: back in van life. Now. Can you see me glistening?
Speaker 1: Because I know I'm sweating right now. I got the
Speaker 1: fan on full blast, but it's not helping too much.
Speaker 1: How's your like feeling? It's funny you ask, because I
Speaker 1: just right before filming recording this podcast, I walked into
Speaker 1: a gas station to get some ice cold water, and
Speaker 1: I was limping the whole time because it's just I
Speaker 1: went on like a long hike today and it's just
Speaker 1: really painful now. But other than that's good. Do you
Speaker 1: wear a mask on the hike now? I didn't not
Speaker 1: the hike the when you went to the gas station? Oh,
Speaker 1: I wear a mask. I actually hiked with a mask
Speaker 1: yesterday too. I I definitely wear the mask more often
Speaker 1: than not. It's funny too, because I don't want to
Speaker 1: take away from your your your article you want to
Speaker 1: get to, but I just want to share this real quick.
Speaker 1: Is I've been kind of driving around a little bit lately.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I saw my brother in South Dakota, uh,
Speaker 1: and now I'm in Utah and I've been driving through
Speaker 1: these states like Utah, Wyoming, South Dakota, and no one
Speaker 1: seems to care about coronavirus, Like, especially in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're, um, we we are being much
Speaker 1: more protective and I guess I don't know the word
Speaker 1: but safe than from what I've experienced other parts of
Speaker 1: the country where you know, I walked into a gas
Speaker 1: station like a week ago, and there was like a
Speaker 1: like a twelve year old baseball team, like just finished
Speaker 1: playing a baseball game. None of them are wearing masks.
Speaker 1: They're all like high five in and like hugging and stuff.
Speaker 1: And I was like this, it was kind of crazy
Speaker 1: to see how the rest of the not the rest,
Speaker 1: but other parts of the country are handling the situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds terrifying. It is crazy. Uh. And there is
Speaker 1: one article that I really want to talk about where
Speaker 1: it talks about having sex with someone while wearing a mask.
Speaker 1: And before before we dive into that one, I just
Speaker 1: want to say, uh, because of everything that's going on
Speaker 1: in the world right now, we're gonna be talking about uh,
Speaker 1: current events and our thoughts on it because it's a
Speaker 1: conversation we want to continue having from last week's pod cast,
Speaker 1: but we also want to talk about dating topics as well,
Speaker 1: because we're dating podcasts and so we just want to
Speaker 1: make sure that everybody knows that this isn't us telling
Speaker 1: you what we think is important. It's more of just
Speaker 1: a production decision that we want to talk about dating
Speaker 1: as well, because after all, we are help. I suck
Speaker 1: at dating, which is interesting that the name came from Dean.
Speaker 1: It's so funny, Dean, that everybody thought you sucked at dating.
Speaker 1: You don't suck at dating. I definitely suck at dating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway. So there's a there's a couple.
Speaker 1: One article caught my eye. It's from The Independent, and
Speaker 1: so it's titled Couples should have sex wearing a mask
Speaker 1: to reduce risk of transmitting coronavirus. Study suggests, first of all,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts, Dean about wearing a master and sex.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be the dumbest thing I've ever heard in
Speaker 1: my life, And so I kind of a great Couples
Speaker 1: should have sex while wearing face master reduced the risk
Speaker 1: of transmitting COVID nineteen to one another. On May, researchers
Speaker 1: at Harvard published a study in the Urnal of Anals
Speaker 1: of Internal Medicine on the safest ways to have sex
Speaker 1: during the coronavirus outbreak. On Monday, new laws were implemented
Speaker 1: in England that made it illegal for couples who live
Speaker 1: in different homes to have sex indoors and stay overnight.
Speaker 1: That I find really unfair. So you're telling me that
Speaker 1: if you're single right now, you're lonely. Uh, You're you're
Speaker 1: you're probably in a depressed state because you don't have
Speaker 1: any human interaction. You've been quarantined for three months. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are happening in the world
Speaker 1: that are overwhelming. Dean. What are your thoughts about making
Speaker 1: it illegal for someone to have and not be able
Speaker 1: to have sex, uh with someone who's not in their house. Well,
Speaker 1: a couple of things. If you if you read the
Speaker 1: fine print of that article that you just shared, at
Speaker 1: least the way that you ordered, it said it's illegal
Speaker 1: to have sex indoors with someone from another household, which
Speaker 1: means all you gotta do is go outside and have
Speaker 1: sex outside somewhere about it being bought a boom, You
Speaker 1: cheat the system. You're still getting the thing that you
Speaker 1: want most. Yeah, just go to the world, have a
Speaker 1: quickie behind the tree, and you'll be fine. Exactly. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't understand how you could put a
Speaker 1: police that just it's I just don't understand how that
Speaker 1: can be policed. Like they catch someone on the on
Speaker 1: the Walk of Shame home or something like that, and
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, what were you doing? Uh, and they
Speaker 1: do like a a vaginal swab or something. You just
Speaker 1: had sex. You're going to prison because that's against the law.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand. I think that's crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: understand the masks while having sex either, because like you're
Speaker 1: already in close proximity, your mucous membranes down stairs are
Speaker 1: interacting with one another. Uh, it doesn't matter what's a
Speaker 1: masking to do. You're gonna not breathe on each other,
Speaker 1: but you're still interacting in ways that are able to
Speaker 1: transfer the virus. I don't want to call Harvard stupid
Speaker 1: because it's Harvard, but that article is stupid and it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me, and because of that, I
Speaker 1: rebuke it as fact. Yeah, man, there's gonna come a
Speaker 1: point throughout this entire thing where Austin as human beings,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna have to start taking Its going to
Speaker 1: be an early wave of adopters in a late wave
Speaker 1: of adopters for that, and you can already kind of
Speaker 1: see it happening where it's like people are slowly going
Speaker 1: back to their normal life. Going to the beach is more,
Speaker 1: meeting up with small groups of friends, just going outside
Speaker 1: more I'm driving, um, Whereas for the two months prior,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, self conquarantined with Kalin in the
Speaker 1: apartment and in Los Angeles. So I think you just
Speaker 1: get like a way of early adopters that are willing
Speaker 1: to i don't know, like risk it but not really
Speaker 1: risk it, but then also have to handle the social
Speaker 1: repercussions of it. Um. Like for me, for instance, in
Speaker 1: my van, I actually kind of went back and forth
Speaker 1: a lot about this because so my brother was rock
Speaker 1: climbing in South Dakota a few weeks ago, while the
Speaker 1: same week that he was supposed to be having his
Speaker 1: wedding down in Mexico, and I was like, well, I
Speaker 1: really want to see my brother and his fiance, especially
Speaker 1: during this time whether they're supposed to be getting married,
Speaker 1: but is it appropriate for me to be tryed raveling
Speaker 1: that far? And I was like okay, yeah, Like I'm
Speaker 1: in my van. There's literally no difference for me taking
Speaker 1: my van from l A to South Dakota as it
Speaker 1: is staying in the apartment with Kaylin, Like I'm still
Speaker 1: the only interaction of having with people are in the
Speaker 1: grocery store when I go to get the food that
Speaker 1: we're going to prepare in the van, or at the
Speaker 1: gas station when I'm filling up, which I don't even
Speaker 1: interact with people. So it's like my my interpersonal interaction
Speaker 1: is still the same, if not less. I would say
Speaker 1: when I'm driving in on the road, like I've been
Speaker 1: on the road for two and a half three weeks now,
Speaker 1: when I have been in isolation by myself for the
Speaker 1: past week, and I like I try to avoid people,
Speaker 1: whereas back home I would like hang out with a
Speaker 1: friend everyone like once a week, or um go for
Speaker 1: a walk where I'm passing by people in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't know, there's gonna be early
Speaker 1: adoptors and light adoptors in my opinion, Jared, what do
Speaker 1: you think I was surprised to hear you say something
Speaker 1: like that, because if I had a guess, I would
Speaker 1: think that you're gonna be a late adopter. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to give this thing with common sense. I
Speaker 1: take coronavirus very seriously. I wear a mask everywhere I go.
Speaker 1: I tried to avoid crowds. Um. I always try to
Speaker 1: stay outside most of the time. Um like, um, you know,
Speaker 1: we had a friend come over and we had a
Speaker 1: fire outside and they stay. It was it was truly
Speaker 1: didn't feeling differently because they were six ft away and
Speaker 1: we were outside and listen, at some point, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna have to start going back to normal life, Like
Speaker 1: we can't what you're supposed to tell someone who's quarantined
Speaker 1: by themselves inside their home and they're probably depressed and
Speaker 1: lonely and not working right now, and you're telling them
Speaker 1: that what they're supposed to just do this for however
Speaker 1: long until we get a vaccine in one. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's impossible. Hey, I'm surprised to hear you say that,
Speaker 1: because you, uh, borderline hypochondriac. In my opinion, you like
Speaker 1: you but you yeah, not way, but you're like you
Speaker 1: definitely like to think of the consequences of your actions
Speaker 1: and the possible repercussions for them a lot more than
Speaker 1: than some people. Which it's it's good and bad in
Speaker 1: certain ways a lot more than Ashley. I can tell
Speaker 1: you that um to the whole reason for self quarantine
Speaker 1: and can correct me if I'm wrong here. It was
Speaker 1: never to stay inside until we found a vaccine. It
Speaker 1: was to flatten the curve, to have open beds for uh,
Speaker 1: for for COVID patients, right. I agree, man, Like, especially
Speaker 1: in the dating world, so you're supposed to have sex
Speaker 1: now with with a mask on. I mean, it just
Speaker 1: takes out all human uh intimacy. If you're not able
Speaker 1: to kiss someone, um, if you're not able to see
Speaker 1: their face fully, you know there's there's an intimacy there
Speaker 1: that that would be missing. And man, we've grown so
Speaker 1: apart because of because of the Internet and social media, um,
Speaker 1: and we've we've come to a state where we don't
Speaker 1: even need to be in the same room as somebody.
Speaker 1: We don't need to touch anybody anymore. And I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm I'm concerned about that because I think it's human beings.
Speaker 1: We need touch, we need human interaction, we need to
Speaker 1: be in a relationship with another human being. I was
Speaker 1: actually watching this thing on Netflix last night. It was
Speaker 1: History one on one, and they're like twenty minute episodes
Speaker 1: and one of them was about robots and there was
Speaker 1: like they did a study, uh, and there was like
Speaker 1: of this study and this was in Japan said they'd
Speaker 1: rather be in a relationship with a robot than a
Speaker 1: real person. And this is like futuristic Blade Runner type
Speaker 1: stuff that concerns me. To bring it back to that article,
Speaker 1: are you guys telling me there's never been a time
Speaker 1: where you've had sex where maybe there wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of there was little to no kissing, Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: were still kissing. I've never had sex with someone and
Speaker 1: not kissing. Let's say there's like those rounds where maybe
Speaker 1: you don't have you kiss as much as always, what's
Speaker 1: minus a few and you just have sex. Like that's
Speaker 1: kind of what it is with the face mask. Is
Speaker 1: it really that we give an issue? I think so,
Speaker 1: because I think for me, it's more escalation. It's like,
Speaker 1: first it's a face mask, and now we're outlawing sex
Speaker 1: with somebody who's not in your household. And that's what
Speaker 1: concerns me, is that we're just getting to this state
Speaker 1: where we're just we're gonna be isolated in our own
Speaker 1: homes because we're gonna be scared of everything, and now
Speaker 1: we're we're in master and sex and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I see your point totally. I just feel
Speaker 1: like if it's short term, everyone could just throw in
Speaker 1: a mask. There's gonna There's been a few, quite a
Speaker 1: few times somebody has had sex with people in a
Speaker 1: club where there's not a lot of kissing. You're in
Speaker 1: the bathroom, you get it done, and you walk out
Speaker 1: like kind of how to get and it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be for forever. Yeah, it all depends I guess on
Speaker 1: who it is. Is it it's a stranger, Like I,
Speaker 1: I don't want to have sex with a stranger with
Speaker 1: a mask on. I don't know. The whole thing is weird.
Speaker 1: We're just getting into uncharted territory and I have no
Speaker 1: idea what the right answer is. But I'm also concerned
Speaker 1: of escalation, like we talked about. Okay, what about this
Speaker 1: Jared and Dean? If Dean is still alive out there
Speaker 1: in Utah right now, you guys have kids, right now,
Speaker 1: Let's just imagine that you both you have a kid
Speaker 1: and who's a teenager? Are you going to tell and
Speaker 1: you know they're sexually active at this point, are you
Speaker 1: going to tell your kid, Hey, grab the condom and
Speaker 1: the face mask. Would you tell them you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to go hang out with kids or would you tell
Speaker 1: them go for it, go build out immune system. What
Speaker 1: would be your advice to the teenagers, the young college kids?
Speaker 1: What do you do? I probably just tell them that,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, that's a tough question. Hypothetically, i'd say
Speaker 1: right now that they I'd probably keep him at home
Speaker 1: right now. But that's also my kid, you know, like
Speaker 1: the government is not my dad. Um, And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: listen to what they have to say. And I want
Speaker 1: to listen to health experts, and and I'm gonna wear
Speaker 1: a mask everywhere I go, and I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: avoid crowds and take this as seriously as possible. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm lucky where I'm married and my significant
Speaker 1: other I live with. But like Tori, like you're a
Speaker 1: single right now, you're by yourself. What if the government
Speaker 1: told you it is illegal for you to have someone
Speaker 1: over or to go over their house. It would make
Speaker 1: me ten times more promiscuous. Yeah, you want what you
Speaker 1: can't happen to you? Now, I'm gonna go do it.
Speaker 1: So I wonder what their numbers. Would you look like now?
Speaker 1: That man was like, okay, we're jokes on you and
Speaker 1: then they go out. Would would you have sex with
Speaker 1: with a mask on? I don't know. It's not an
Speaker 1: easy question. Kissing is it's very intimate and I'm not
Speaker 1: even just talking about liplock, but like you o your
Speaker 1: lips and your tongue and there's you know, not to
Speaker 1: get to graphic here, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Um and UM, I'm gonna ask you another personal question
Speaker 1: which you don't have to answer, but have you hung
Speaker 1: out with anybody during quarantine? I mean, you're single, it's
Speaker 1: been oh what three months now? Have you resisted the
Speaker 1: urge to hang out with a friend. Yeah. I've been
Speaker 1: quarantined pretty much this whole time, either with my roommates
Speaker 1: or by myself or with my family. I haven't even
Speaker 1: really like said, hey, come on over all right, Well,
Speaker 1: we want to hear what you guys have to say
Speaker 1: about it. What do you think about wearing a mastering sex?
Speaker 1: Do you think it's right that England is making it
Speaker 1: illegal for people to not be able to hang out
Speaker 1: with other people outside their household? Email us at is
Speaker 1: suck at dating at iHeart media dot com. And we
Speaker 1: also have Tasia Adams on thelan right now and we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk to her right after this short break. All right,
Speaker 1: welcome back to help I suck at dating. Dean is
Speaker 1: in his van and he apparently his computer keeps overheating,
Speaker 1: so he's very spotty right now. So I'm hoping he
Speaker 1: joins this this conversation sooner rather than later. But we
Speaker 1: have the wonderful, the amazing Tasha Adams who's joining us. Tasha,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Of course I that's how am I doing. It's a
Speaker 1: loaded question, but to be um short, I'm okay, You're okay? Um. Obviously, Now,
Speaker 1: Dean and I had a jubilee and uh dr each
Speaker 1: major from marriage boot camp on last week, and we
Speaker 1: talked a lot about what's going on in the world
Speaker 1: right now. But I also want to get your take
Speaker 1: about everything that's transpired over the past week. Um, how
Speaker 1: are you feeling? Um, To be quite honest with you,
Speaker 1: right here right now, as I'm sitting in my heart,
Speaker 1: I had like this anxious pit in my stomach, and UM,
Speaker 1: I can't specifically say as to what that is being
Speaker 1: caused by because there's just a lot going on. But um,
Speaker 1: I it's just it's heavy. It's heavy, everything's heavy. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm really happy it's all happening. To be quite honest
Speaker 1: with you, Um, it's a lot, it's a lot unpack. No,
Speaker 1: but I agree with you. I mean, it was I
Speaker 1: think as uh as a white person. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I always knew I had white privilege, but I don't
Speaker 1: think I realized the level of privilege that I had
Speaker 1: because I don't think ever came to my head that, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, when the cops show up, I feel safe,
Speaker 1: and that's a privilege that I have. And it's sad.
Speaker 1: It's sad to say that, but it's true, and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: It's it sucks, it's it's it's horrible that there you
Speaker 1: know that the black community can't feel the same way.
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, you're right, it was time. It was
Speaker 1: time to wake people up, to open their eyes, to
Speaker 1: realize what was happening in the world. And um, it's
Speaker 1: sad that it had to take the life of George
Speaker 1: Floyd in a video to come out on Twitter for
Speaker 1: it to happen. But like you said, I'm glad it's happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just I just hate that things have to go
Speaker 1: so far in order for it to get any type
Speaker 1: of like acknowledgement, you know what I mean, as if
Speaker 1: like this has not happened in the past, as if
Speaker 1: this is like the first time it's ever happened, or
Speaker 1: a movement like this has ever happened. Um to shine
Speaker 1: light on something that's all around us, um, in order
Speaker 1: for there to be a change. So um, I am
Speaker 1: a mixed baby. My mom is actually Mexican. So what
Speaker 1: was that dynamic? Like, it's always been great. There's just
Speaker 1: been a lot of culture in my home. I guess,
Speaker 1: like I used to go to Mexico for summers at
Speaker 1: a time, and I would come back only speaking Spanish
Speaker 1: like as a kid, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I have always been a diverse home. But I will
Speaker 1: say I grew up as one of the only black
Speaker 1: kids in my class. So, um, this is kind of
Speaker 1: like it's kind of crazy because I'm starting to realize
Speaker 1: things that I never realized growing up, you know. Like, um,
Speaker 1: so I posted a clip the other day about Ruby Bridges.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know a Ruby Bridges, um,
Speaker 1: but she Okay, So after um Brown versus the Board
Speaker 1: of Education, there was basically a breakthrough saying that, um,
Speaker 1: we're not going to have segregated schools anymore. And it
Speaker 1: took about six years in order for there actually to
Speaker 1: be any action, um making, you know, an integration in
Speaker 1: the schools. And there was six children that were basically
Speaker 1: like the subjects to integrade schools, and Ruby Bridges was
Speaker 1: one of them. And she was six years old, and um,
Speaker 1: she basically was escorted, um by tons of police officers
Speaker 1: to even walk into this school because just the idea
Speaker 1: of her going to this school created huge controversy. Um
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really fascinating. I really really highly recommend
Speaker 1: to watch their actually a Disney movie on Ruby Bridges.
Speaker 1: But um, basically the second she entered that school, there
Speaker 1: was about five kids parents that walk into that school,
Speaker 1: grabbed their child and left just because Ruby was going
Speaker 1: to that school. And being young, I remember like Disney channels,
Speaker 1: like Disney Channel, so of course I watched all movies
Speaker 1: on Disney. But that movie came out and I remember
Speaker 1: being in my room and watching that move and feeling
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I don't know why I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cry, but I just feel so overwhelmed because I
Speaker 1: actually identified with her. I I didn't know if I
Speaker 1: don't know, just being like the only black kid, but
Speaker 1: I never felt like people were Um I don't know
Speaker 1: if people got taken out of school because of me.
Speaker 1: I didn't you know what mean, Like there was just
Speaker 1: so much you don't see and you don't know as
Speaker 1: a child that then it made me like think, like
Speaker 1: do people think this way? Have me kind of thing?
Speaker 1: And I remember just crying and watching it and and
Speaker 1: wanting to be someone with that that shined basically that
Speaker 1: wanted to have an impact on people. And so, um,
Speaker 1: when I shared that the other day, it was actually
Speaker 1: insane how many d M s I got people saying
Speaker 1: they had no idea that that was even like a thing,
Speaker 1: or that they struggled to even go to school like that.
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, so there's things like that that I've
Speaker 1: kind of like have like revisited in my mind. Um
Speaker 1: there's things like, uh, people asking, um, if I have
Speaker 1: the same parents as my siblings, because I guess it's
Speaker 1: just like kind of assumed that if you new siblings
Speaker 1: don't look necessarily alike, that you have two different parents,
Speaker 1: you have different parents, And someone was in my d
Speaker 1: MS because I addressed it the other day because I
Speaker 1: posted about my family and my people were kept asking
Speaker 1: do you and your sister have the same mom? And
Speaker 1: when I posted, like as it kind of being like
Speaker 1: I never really thought about it, but I posted to
Speaker 1: all the people that are asking if we have the
Speaker 1: same mom, of course we do, like my parents have
Speaker 1: been together since they were sixteen and eighteen. And then
Speaker 1: when I was getting the d MS of people being like,
Speaker 1: I cannot believe how stupid that question is, like why
Speaker 1: would anybody even ask that? And thinking back, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I never took any offense to that. I've been asked
Speaker 1: that since the day I was I don't know since
Speaker 1: I was wrong, but I didn't realize and someone told me,
Speaker 1: they're like, you never you would never ask a white
Speaker 1: person do you come from the same parents? What I mean,
Speaker 1: you would never ask like a white child that, And
Speaker 1: it's so true, like and no mixed person would ever
Speaker 1: really asked another mixed child you have the same parents.
Speaker 1: Like I've never thought that in my mind and I
Speaker 1: never realized like this whole time, it's it's just kind
Speaker 1: of like that's true. It's just like a it's a
Speaker 1: funny remark in itself, you know, Yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a very invasive question for strangers to be asking. You, Like,
Speaker 1: I never thought twice about it. That's how I was.
Speaker 1: I was brought into all white people and I never
Speaker 1: really thought twice about it. And the friends to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think for me, I haven't thought
Speaker 1: twice about a lot of things. But you realize, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, the civil rights movement was seventy years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's not that long ago at all,
Speaker 1: and I forget that, you know, I forget that it
Speaker 1: was only seventy years ago, and it you know, certainly, Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean this is a you know, I'd like to
Speaker 1: think that things have gotten better, but there are still
Speaker 1: so much prejudice, in so much racist racism in this country.
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where right now, if you
Speaker 1: post something that says black lives matter, you get you know,
Speaker 1: people like all lives matter, and it's like, no, that's
Speaker 1: not the point. You're missing the point right now. And
Speaker 1: I feel like just a lot of people are having
Speaker 1: trouble listening. Um. You know, it was like I remember
Speaker 1: last week when the protests started beginning, and and and
Speaker 1: then the looting started and people were saying, you know, see,
Speaker 1: look what, look, what's happening. It's like, no, you have
Speaker 1: to you have to listen. There are peaceful protests happening
Speaker 1: right now. And then yes, there are there there are
Speaker 1: people looting, and that's wrong, but what what The positivity
Speaker 1: that's coming from these protests greatly outweighs what's happening with
Speaker 1: all these people looting and rioting. Um. And then I
Speaker 1: think back. I mentioned last week the Colin Kaepernick situation
Speaker 1: about how he was taking a knee. He was doing
Speaker 1: a peaceful protest against brutality, uh, with against police brutality
Speaker 1: against the black community, and people immediately associated that with him,
Speaker 1: uh you know, saying the military sucks. And it's like
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, that's not you have to listen.
Speaker 1: You have to listen to what people are saying. Um. People,
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody has a hard time doing that,
Speaker 1: you know, like they kind of just want to hear
Speaker 1: if they want to hear, not to the whole sentence.
Speaker 1: You're not listening to the entire idea. You can't just
Speaker 1: say I don't know you can't just like want a
Speaker 1: cake and put all the ingredients in the thing and like, hey,
Speaker 1: there's a fam cake, Like no, you have to stir
Speaker 1: it up, you have to bake it. There's there's there's
Speaker 1: a process to everything. You don't just get what you
Speaker 1: want right away. And you can't just even say like, well,
Speaker 1: this is what it's supposed to be, is what you
Speaker 1: told me to do? Like no, you can put in
Speaker 1: work to like unpack it all and do what you
Speaker 1: need to do. It's just it's it's a lot. And
Speaker 1: I understand the whole calling Kapnick thing of like I
Speaker 1: posted something about that too, like y'all wanted like peaceful
Speaker 1: things and like someone just kneeled on their knee and
Speaker 1: that was pretty peaceful. But I get it. It It was
Speaker 1: like a like regarding that when it was done the nationalism,
Speaker 1: but like in my mind, it's just like the national anthem,
Speaker 1: like it's for like freedom rings and like it's about
Speaker 1: what are America is based on? And to be quit
Speaker 1: honest with you, there's a there's a flaw in the system.
Speaker 1: There's a problem with it. It's not it's broken. So
Speaker 1: him doing that was just basically showing that there's something
Speaker 1: wrong here, and I needed to pay attention to it.
Speaker 1: But it was all twisted and all that craft. I
Speaker 1: know it was he was he was looking for a platform,
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, we don't have to die fully
Speaker 1: into the NFL. Now that's a whole different conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys want to have an embarrassing story? Hi tissue?
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh my god, look who it is.
Speaker 1: How's everyone doing? Yeah, we're good. How's the desert? It's
Speaker 1: very hot? Um? Do you guys want to hear a story?
Speaker 1: Whether it's embarrassing or funny or it's just playing stupid
Speaker 1: is up to I guess the listener's discussion. So um,
Speaker 1: and he Actually the reason I'm bringing up is because
Speaker 1: I'm just curious to hear what you think about it,
Speaker 1: because I just I'm curious, and Jared go as well.
Speaker 1: So before going to Paradise this this season, Before going
Speaker 1: to Paradise season six, um, I like found at the
Speaker 1: thrift store a Malcolm X shirt with him holding the
Speaker 1: fist up and then under it said by any means necessary.
Speaker 1: And I was like, WHOA, this shirt is so sick? Uh?
Speaker 1: And then so I like bought the shirt. I started
Speaker 1: like listening to Malcolm X like rhetoric and some of
Speaker 1: the speeches, and I was like, Wow, this dude is
Speaker 1: so like the things you were saying. It was saying,
Speaker 1: we're so like, uh enlightening and like just just playing smart. Um.
Speaker 1: And then the night before I was supposed to leave, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, I skipped. I skipped the step. So
Speaker 1: I found the shirt right, and I like basically knew
Speaker 1: that me going to Paradise this time around. Um, like
Speaker 1: I I just wanted to I don't know, I wanted
Speaker 1: to maybe make a statement. And so what I thought
Speaker 1: about doing was wearing this shirt, the shirt with Malcolm
Speaker 1: X and the slogan by any Means Necessary on it,
Speaker 1: which was the slogan of was I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was the Black Panthers or if it was just
Speaker 1: the Malcolm X movement, but um, I was gonna wear
Speaker 1: that shirt every single day while I was on Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise and that was gonna be my like silent,
Speaker 1: peaceful protest against racial injustice. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: like the most genius idea of where I was like,
Speaker 1: I love this idea. I think it's fantastic. Anyways, passed
Speaker 1: forward to the day before we were supposed to or
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be shipped out to Bachelor in
Speaker 1: Paradise down to Mexico. We highly got dinner with a
Speaker 1: bunch of my friends. Um, and one of my best
Speaker 1: friends is is His father is black and his mother's white.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like Jackson, like this
Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking about doing. What what is your
Speaker 1: take on this idea that I have? And he was like, deing,
Speaker 1: whatever you do, do not where that shirt every day?
Speaker 1: Because I guess I didn't realize at the time that
Speaker 1: the Malcolm X kind of stood up for uh not
Speaker 1: necessarily a violent approach, but he wasn't as peaceful as
Speaker 1: as Dr Martin Luther King was. But what if I
Speaker 1: showed up on the beach that first day some some bland,
Speaker 1: vanilla white dude wearing a Malcolm X T shirt that said,
Speaker 1: by any means necessary, would you take is that? Like that?
Speaker 1: Would you take offense to that? I was like, my
Speaker 1: argument was like, my heart's in the right place, like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do something good here. But I could
Speaker 1: also see the flip side of it, where um, it's
Speaker 1: just maybe a little inappropriate, don't forget he'd also be
Speaker 1: walking down with the mustache. UM. I don't think I
Speaker 1: would think about it too much at first, but I
Speaker 1: think that just it would have broke me a wrong way,
Speaker 1: because like, do you know that even represents right? And
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what that was his thing too.
Speaker 1: Although I had listened to like a lot of the
Speaker 1: speeches and stuff, he was like, Dean, like, you have
Speaker 1: to be read, need to like fully understand exactly what
Speaker 1: they're representing and and speaking on and about before you're
Speaker 1: you're even close to being able to representent. Sure, And
Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, I don't know enough about
Speaker 1: it to go down there and have like an intelligent
Speaker 1: conversation with someone. So ultimately I decided not to do
Speaker 1: it um And I think I think I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: done it, obviously, but I do. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: listened to a lot of his um, like his his
Speaker 1: speeches and and read some of his literature and stuff,
Speaker 1: and he makes some good points. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: we don't really get taught much Malcolm X in school.
Speaker 1: When we learn about American history, it's all like Dr
Speaker 1: King um and and basically that's it as far as
Speaker 1: black history goes, you know, um, as far as at
Speaker 1: least the education I got. No, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and I think it's probably just because his approach is
Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, like how you said
Speaker 1: a little bit. I wouldn't necessarily say aggressive, but it's
Speaker 1: more it is more intense, you know. Um So I
Speaker 1: think above all personally trying to approach every with peace
Speaker 1: and gracefully and um no, respectfully. But the next step,
Speaker 1: which is riots and protests that kind of help are
Speaker 1: seeing it right now. But it's kind of funny because
Speaker 1: I feel like we're in that shirt could have just
Speaker 1: been like what people are doing and saying like, you know,
Speaker 1: well I like Kobe. I like Kobe Kobe's this is
Speaker 1: like nitpicking now, Okay, so clearly I'm not like a racist.
Speaker 1: I like black people, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I listen to hip hop, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just like I voted for Obama. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like okay, but like that's great. I know you identify
Speaker 1: with that to some degree, But do you really know
Speaker 1: like the backstory behind everything else, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I said, I wasn't sure whether it be embarrassing
Speaker 1: or just playing stupid, and I honestly think it's all
Speaker 1: those things. I'm glad that you actually asked the perspective
Speaker 1: before doing things. That's one thing you do do, you know,
Speaker 1: I will say, as like off the charges you are,
Speaker 1: sometimes you do kind of ask the people's opinions far
Speaker 1: before you do things. I'm very blessed to have a
Speaker 1: lot of intelligent friends in my life, Tasha. You're one
Speaker 1: of them, and so of course I'm going to lean
Speaker 1: on them for information every once in a while. Well, well, Dean,
Speaker 1: you're also very caring. That's that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why you asked, because this isn't this isn't about me
Speaker 1: right now. Anyways. Another another interesting thing that I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring up with Tassia was being as you are
Speaker 1: bi racial. Um, I have a friend as well who is,
Speaker 1: like I said, he's bi racial. He actually got the
Speaker 1: DNA test and and his DNA test came back that
Speaker 1: he's like fifty five percent Caucasian. But you meet you meet,
Speaker 1: you meet this guy, and the first thing anyone sees
Speaker 1: is a black person. It's just so interesting to me
Speaker 1: that even though he's you know, I guess technically like
Speaker 1: thirty five black. He's more white than he is black,
Speaker 1: and yet people still see a black man when he
Speaker 1: when they're introduced to him, or like if he gets
Speaker 1: pulled over, he's still going to be, you know, unfortunately
Speaker 1: treated as a black man gets treated during you know,
Speaker 1: a routine traffic stoff. Do you ever feel like you
Speaker 1: are identified more with being a black woman or because
Speaker 1: your mother is Mexican? Do you do you feel like
Speaker 1: you're do you identify more as a black woman or
Speaker 1: a Mexican woman. It's so funny, um identify with bot.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never really like picked and choose.
Speaker 1: I think, what's what? It is really funny? Do you
Speaker 1: know what when you're filling out all those questionnaires like
Speaker 1: testing or even like I was just registering the vote
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and ask you for your ethnicity
Speaker 1: always with this and it always says black slash no
Speaker 1: Hispanic descent, And I'm like, well that kind of sex
Speaker 1: because I'm kind of so isn't that funny? It's like
Speaker 1: it is an actual line item, so it's like it's
Speaker 1: one and one. I don't like, I don't I always
Speaker 1: used to as to like, how do I identify with
Speaker 1: this because I'm both, so I don't know what to
Speaker 1: say with you, but it would say pick and choose.
Speaker 1: That's what they would tell me, pick and choose, which
Speaker 1: is kind of unfortunately. I guess you have to pick
Speaker 1: and choose because you want to be able to celebrate
Speaker 1: both of your heritages. But do you ever find it
Speaker 1: difficult with dating? I know, like obviously the only dating
Speaker 1: exposure we have with you is Colton and then uh
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise as well. But have you ever had
Speaker 1: any like maybe good or bad issues arise from your
Speaker 1: by racial nous? I will say no, but I guess
Speaker 1: I have always second thought if I'm going to be
Speaker 1: someone's cup of tea because I am not white, blonde haired,
Speaker 1: blue eyes, and that's the community that I live in.
Speaker 1: Uh and um, yeah, I have always second guest myself
Speaker 1: in that aspect and like, oh that's cool, but like
Speaker 1: does he like mixed girls? Like you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: and that's funny that like people even think that way,
Speaker 1: that you have to think that way, and it's fine
Speaker 1: if you don't are not into it, just like for me,
Speaker 1: like I guess I've been brought up around here and
Speaker 1: maybe that's why I have dated certain type of guys,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um So I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that having a taste or whatever you fancy is bad.
Speaker 1: I'm just standing like it is something that goes through
Speaker 1: my mind every single time I do introduce myself to somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure everybody does that to an extent, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Does she like tall guys are
Speaker 1: ball guys. It's like athletic guys are skinny guys, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like everybody kind of has that.
Speaker 1: But I hate that, Like race is a thing that,
Speaker 1: like you kind of cut the line. We kind of
Speaker 1: touched last week on Race and the Bachelor franchise a
Speaker 1: little bit with Jubilie, who had some pretty insightful things
Speaker 1: to say. Do you feel like, I mean, obviously there's
Speaker 1: a clear discriptancy. It's like every season you have, like
Speaker 1: you said, a bunch of white, blonde, blue eyed both
Speaker 1: man and women on whether it's Bachelor, bachelorret h and
Speaker 1: there is not much representation not just for even not
Speaker 1: just for black men and women, but for you know,
Speaker 1: other cultures as well. Do you think do you see
Speaker 1: that ever changing or do you when you were on
Speaker 1: the show, did you ever notice it being like an
Speaker 1: issue of any sort. I can't say that I felt
Speaker 1: an issue. Um, I don't, And I will actually say
Speaker 1: Colton never made me think twice about that, which is amazing. Um.
Speaker 1: But I will say I have seen lots of comments
Speaker 1: and being like, well there has to be a token
Speaker 1: black chat, like a black person in the top four,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that's her, that's you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So I kind of second like
Speaker 1: I started second guessing myself. I guess like when everything
Speaker 1: was starting the air and I was like, holy sh it,
Speaker 1: like do you think that that's what it was? And
Speaker 1: I absolutely second guessed everything, and you can get guarantee.
Speaker 1: I went to producers and been like was that me? Um?
Speaker 1: And I hate it that's even like a thing? Um yeah.
Speaker 1: And then you started saying absolutely, I say, I started
Speaker 1: second guessing everything like it was there even really like
Speaker 1: a thing that you know what I mean? And it
Speaker 1: sucks to feel that way. Um. You Also, I've always
Speaker 1: said it, I hate that. As much as I love
Speaker 1: the fact that Rachel Lindsay was the first black bachelorette,
Speaker 1: I do hate that that was like her glory lacking,
Speaker 1: just as just like Colton was a virgin, like okay,
Speaker 1: like ghetto it. Well. I know what's interesting is when
Speaker 1: I was being cast for that season, for Rachel season
Speaker 1: I was. I began the casting process after she had
Speaker 1: already been announced for the bachelorrette because she had ever
Speaker 1: been anced early. And I think almost at every stage
Speaker 1: of the casting process, they were like, Hey, we just
Speaker 1: want to let you know, like the Bachelor that's black,
Speaker 1: Are you okay with that? And every time I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care what you like, why are you Why
Speaker 1: are you asking this question? And I can only imagine
Speaker 1: they asked that question to other people and they were
Speaker 1: getting negative responses to which it's just crazy to think about.
Speaker 1: People were like, you know what, I'm gonna sit this
Speaker 1: season out, you know, And again I I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't just I can't confirm that. I'm just assuming. But um,
Speaker 1: the fact that they were asking me that question made
Speaker 1: me feel like other people were, you know, getting I
Speaker 1: guess up in arms about the potential to be on
Speaker 1: the show with a black right, But like I feel
Speaker 1: like always like when you highlight something, it makes it
Speaker 1: a big deal, It makes it a bigger deal than
Speaker 1: it is. It's as simple as that, And like, I
Speaker 1: think it's an amazing accomplishment for her. Absolutely they're not.
Speaker 1: But the fact that that's an accomplishment, right, it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's it's funny to me. But then I guess
Speaker 1: on the flip side of it, you can argue by
Speaker 1: kind of like being hush hush about it, it might
Speaker 1: make it. Like the fact that you can the fact
Speaker 1: that we're even having this conversation, I think is is
Speaker 1: uh a step forward in the right direction, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, versus where it's like if
Speaker 1: you're being quiet about it, maybe it's just I can
Speaker 1: see what you're trying to say. I could definitely see
Speaker 1: what you're trying to say, Like if you didn't, if
Speaker 1: you do didn't, if you don't write yeah, because it
Speaker 1: was you know, it was a big deal because it
Speaker 1: was the first black lead, you know, and and take Sue,
Speaker 1: You're right, it sucks that it was a big deal
Speaker 1: because it should have happened a long time ago, but
Speaker 1: it hadn't. And The Bachelor, I think even recognizes that.
Speaker 1: I remember Chris Harrison saying something about it a few
Speaker 1: months ago. About the lack of diversity in the show,
Speaker 1: and so hopefully that's something that changes in the future.
Speaker 1: Would be there's like I'm just saying, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess Rachel and Ryan is a biracial couple, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Jubilee brought up something interesting last week where it
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, it doesn't even have to be a
Speaker 1: black lead, but just cast someone who wants to date
Speaker 1: black people. Because she was talking about how she was
Speaker 1: on the season of Ben and this was not a
Speaker 1: bad thing. You know, she wasn't saying anything bad about Ben,
Speaker 1: but she just said, like she knew Ben probably wasn't
Speaker 1: into her, and you know he's you know, he has
Speaker 1: a type, right, And so she what Jubilee wants to see.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a good idea is to not
Speaker 1: only cast more diverse leads, but cast people who are
Speaker 1: more open and wanting to date diverse people. Absolutely, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: It could be it could be any culture. We just
Speaker 1: mean culture. That's the thing, you know. And I will say,
Speaker 1: with all this stuff, it makes me, you want to know,
Speaker 1: what makes me really uncomfortable is addressing people as its
Speaker 1: being like, dear white people. I also am uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: as funny as it is is saying black lives matter.
Speaker 1: Why am I uncomfortable because it just feels like, again,
Speaker 1: it's like segregation in a way, but also it's like
Speaker 1: it's not even that black lives matter. I just wish
Speaker 1: as they added one more word to the end of that.
Speaker 1: I think it was if it was black lives matter too,
Speaker 1: it would just like just stop so much from rising up.
Speaker 1: Like everyone's saying, like, all lives matter, that's great, but
Speaker 1: black lives matter too, in addition to everyone. No, totally
Speaker 1: the actually the Rock uh, Dwayne Johnson, he posted an
Speaker 1: eight minute speech about Um. He was specifically talking about
Speaker 1: the president, but he said, uh, you know, he was like,
Speaker 1: of course, all lives matter, like every single life matters
Speaker 1: because as Americans, we believe in equality, we believe in inclusion,
Speaker 1: and we believe in all these great things. And he's like,
Speaker 1: but that's not the point right now. Right now, you
Speaker 1: also have to say the words black lives matter. And
Speaker 1: it was pretty, uh, pretty powerful and impactful. So it's
Speaker 1: an interesting time. I'm glad that the protests are happening. UM.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody just stay safe. I hope you stay safe.
Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well. I mean, we are a
Speaker 1: dating podcast, so I guess are you dating anybody? No?
Speaker 1: You all. I've been in quarantine, okay, know how the
Speaker 1: heck you'll expect me to date right now unless I'm
Speaker 1: getting the mailman. I really haven't seen really anybody, and
Speaker 1: no one's been coming up. So have you been. Have
Speaker 1: you been like starting to brave out? How is it
Speaker 1: in Orange County? What's a lockdown situation? There? Are you
Speaker 1: guys starting to like phase into normal room? So as
Speaker 1: of like last week, restaurants started to like really really
Speaker 1: open up. Some Memorial Day weekend, they got like the
Speaker 1: notice that like midnight you can open up tomorrow. So
Speaker 1: it took some time, but restaurants are starting to open up.
Speaker 1: It honestly seems very normal down here to me. Um,
Speaker 1: but the beach, our beach was always open and we
Speaker 1: really didn't have many cases here, and I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone really did take a lot of the safety precautions
Speaker 1: and we'll like doing pretty well down here. So I
Speaker 1: don't really think like it ever got too crazy bad
Speaker 1: like sterilized down here? Did you? Uh? Um? So have
Speaker 1: you been just out of curiosity because you're single? Dean
Speaker 1: and I are both the relationships. So I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear have you been talking on to people virtually? Have
Speaker 1: you been going on any FaceTime days? And I have
Speaker 1: to say, okay. So I made a conscious decision about
Speaker 1: two weeks prior to Quarantine that I was ready to date. Okay,
Speaker 1: Like I talked to my grandfriends and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: ready for this, like we're going out tonight and they're like,
Speaker 1: what going out? And I was The're like okay. So
Speaker 1: we went out and I started meeting people, and I
Speaker 1: will tell you prior to Quarantine, like, yeah, I had
Speaker 1: met some cool dudes. But I had to say, Quarantine
Speaker 1: kind of killed my vibe. Okay, I can only talk. Oh,
Speaker 1: it does give you the chance now to get to
Speaker 1: know them through conversation, see how they are texting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but aldo at the same time, I felt that way
Speaker 1: at first, I'm like, you have nothing else to do,
Speaker 1: so like we should be able to talk. But also
Speaker 1: if you don't really have like any incentive of seeing
Speaker 1: person in the new near future, like like what's the point,
Speaker 1: Like it's not what you can go on a date,
Speaker 1: It's not like we can even see if there's like chemistry,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or like how fun you
Speaker 1: would have like doing anything like thought you're talking about
Speaker 1: like sex. No, no, I'm just staying like you know, No,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm just busting your jobs. I
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, it's it's it's but I mean,
Speaker 1: because you're down there, you're with your you're living with
Speaker 1: your parents right down in Orange County, or you're staying
Speaker 1: with them at the moment. No oh, I thought you were.
Speaker 1: I thought you were quarantined with them. No, I'm quarantined
Speaker 1: by myself. Oh my gosh, that's horrible. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: at least have your parents around to keep you company
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes down the highway. They're like twenty minutes
Speaker 1: on the highway. So I have been fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: just kind of, um go down the highlight and see
Speaker 1: them every weekend or so. But I can find myself,
Speaker 1: which I don't know how you guys are doing, because
Speaker 1: I like Katie more In for instance, she's living by herself.
Speaker 1: She's got her puppy dog. But the living by yourself, Tori,
Speaker 1: the producer of this podcat, Well, no, she's got roommates,
Speaker 1: but she's been staying inside a lot. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I'm going crazy enough just having Kaylin to talk
Speaker 1: to on a regular basis. But I can't imagine like
Speaker 1: just being alone. And I thought, what's funny is I
Speaker 1: thought that all this isolation would like make me more
Speaker 1: willing to like jump on the phone and talk to
Speaker 1: my friends. But it's actually kind of the reverse effect.
Speaker 1: Like if a friend calls me, I'm like, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and screen that call and maybe just
Speaker 1: text them later. You're kidding, I'm the worst. But it's
Speaker 1: like why, It's like why I can't. Why can't I
Speaker 1: be using this time to like, uh strengthen my friendships
Speaker 1: or you know, jump on the phone and FaceTime my
Speaker 1: buddies for an hour. I just I guess I'm just
Speaker 1: not that person. Well, no, I agree. I've become much
Speaker 1: more of a homebody, and I'm actually really outside of
Speaker 1: being at home and not talking to anyone. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have been into a crazy plant lady, and I
Speaker 1: do talk to my plans old day every day. They
Speaker 1: all have. Yeah, I mean Coco is the best. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's growing, he's thriving. I talked on every single morning. Um,
Speaker 1: Kamila just has been looming like crazy. She's she's she's
Speaker 1: a saint, and herman he's growing. So that's that's my past.
Speaker 1: But baby willing to jump on the podcast at any
Speaker 1: point and give their hi. They're shy. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're turning into Tom Hanks from Castaway and like the
Speaker 1: plants are your Wilson. I'm not even kidding you, guys.
Speaker 1: I literally go up to them, I say I love them,
Speaker 1: I kissed them. I'm like, I love you, like as
Speaker 1: if it's a dog or something. I straight up have issues,
Speaker 1: Like it's not okay, Like help me. You're gonna start
Speaker 1: bringing cocoa to your dates. You're like, oh, hi, how
Speaker 1: are you on? Tasha? This is my friend Coco. He'll
Speaker 1: be joining us tonight. You don't even know. I'm my
Speaker 1: mom called one of my plants Albert the other day.
Speaker 1: I was like, who the hell is Albert? His name
Speaker 1: is herman? Mom like, get it together. That's awesome. Well, Tashia,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Uh you are
Speaker 1: saying you're lovely and amazing. We wish you nothing but
Speaker 1: the best. Do you have any anything else? Do you
Speaker 1: want to say before we get going? You know, I
Speaker 1: just want to say number one, thank you, but also
Speaker 1: I have never I've never felt different around you guys,
Speaker 1: So thank you. I appreciate it. There's no need to
Speaker 1: thank us. Thank you. Okay, so thanks for coming on
Speaker 1: the podcast for the best. Thanks guys, have a good one. Bye.
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Speaker 1: when when I think about it, you're right. I think
Speaker 1: grace graceful is a great way to do. I agree,
Speaker 1: and just just a bubble energy, which is gonnatastic too. Um.
Speaker 1: You want to know what's funny is at the top
Speaker 1: of this podcast because I know that Nick shared his
Speaker 1: getting arrested story on his podcast the second Best podcast,
Speaker 1: this being the first, of course, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think it would be interesting for me to share
Speaker 1: my like arrest three and compare it to well, I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know if that's insensitive, to compare it
Speaker 1: to what it would be like, you know, hypothetically, if
Speaker 1: I were a black man, if things would have gone differently,
Speaker 1: which you know, you can only kind of assume that
Speaker 1: they would, but yeah, I don't know what. So Nick
Speaker 1: on his podcast shared a story about how I didn't listen.
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, but I saw the Instagram. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's all I saw too. Uh. And I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say that at the top of this episode,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, considering sharing if if there was time,
Speaker 1: which we obviously just didn't have time for. I was
Speaker 1: going to share my run ins with the law as
Speaker 1: a white person. And it's like as a white person
Speaker 1: when I was you know, I only got arrested before
Speaker 1: I turned twenty one, and they were mostly they were
Speaker 1: actually all alcohol related defenses. But for how like, uh,
Speaker 1: I rate you know, emotional and like angry that I
Speaker 1: was when I was getting arrested those times as like
Speaker 1: a twenty as a nineteen twenty eighteen year old white boy.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine how much worse it would have
Speaker 1: gone had I not been white, and had I been
Speaker 1: a black person or you know, hispanic or or whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: And I I hadn't really ever thought of that until
Speaker 1: just recently. And it's crazy. I guess, like, you know,
Speaker 1: you keep seeing like this is privileged. Your your privileged.
Speaker 1: If this, like I just saw a thing, you're privileged
Speaker 1: if you're learning about racism instead of having to experience racism,
Speaker 1: and I guess that's kind of the same situation right now,
Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, holy like I've no, I'm no.
Speaker 1: I know, I've been privileged my whole life just for
Speaker 1: being a white Like I always used to tell myself
Speaker 1: that I had the genetic jackpot where I'm a tall
Speaker 1: white man, I have like every Both you and me,
Speaker 1: Jared are like afforded every privilege that life in America
Speaker 1: can be handed to us because we're tall white men.
Speaker 1: Well you're you're five nine, which is call me, you're
Speaker 1: you're above the national average. But you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like we've gone through life, just me and you.
Speaker 1: We've gone through life without having to worry about so much,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's it's great to be able to
Speaker 1: talk to our friends like Tasia, Jubilee, dr Ish and
Speaker 1: and the other ones that we're talking to off air,
Speaker 1: and uh kind of understand that our life isn't the
Speaker 1: norm for a lot of people in America, for a
Speaker 1: lot of people over the world. Yeah, I agree. I
Speaker 1: think not only just understanding, but like reaffirming it. You know,
Speaker 1: I think it's always good to remind yourself, Hey, you're pretty,
Speaker 1: you're pretty lucky. Don't ever forget that, don't ever take
Speaker 1: it for granted, um, because like you said that, not
Speaker 1: everybody in this world can say that, which sucks, and
Speaker 1: it's what we're trying to change right now. So thank
Speaker 1: you for everybody for listening as always, Suck Army. You
Speaker 1: guys are the best. We really Please keep your emails coming,
Speaker 1: and I promise, I promise, I promise next week we
Speaker 1: will get to them. Thank you, Tasha Adams of course
Speaker 1: for joining us, the ever graceful Tasha Adams, uh dean,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us for half the podcast. Sorry
Speaker 1: computer is overheating, but you know next time don't record
Speaker 1: from the h of course, Jared and I promised next
Speaker 1: week we'll get to some of those emails as well.
Speaker 1: I know how much you love does and I guess
Speaker 1: the listeners out there that are listening to this episode
Speaker 1: right now suck Army. Yes, sucks, sucks suck H. If
Speaker 1: you are just sitting at home, you're in between making
Speaker 1: lunch and dinner for yourself, go ahead and jump on
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts and give us a five star rating, because
Speaker 1: you know, we've kind of gotten away from urging people
Speaker 1: to do that, and well, we're not telling you what
Speaker 1: to do. It would certainly be nice of you to do.
Speaker 1: Even a four start helps, Yeah, it definitely helps. Anything
Speaker 1: above four. Please and again you roast us. You know
Speaker 1: if you give us a five star review, roast us,
Speaker 1: you can roast me. You can call me whatever you want,
Speaker 1: a Patrick n Muggs, a cotton headed Ninni mug an.
Speaker 1: You gotta read some literature anyways. It's like I don't
Speaker 1: It's like carry Potter. But honestly, but before before you
Speaker 1: you send it off to you. And I do want
Speaker 1: to say, as I was busting your balls about you
Speaker 1: recording in the van, it feels good that you're in
Speaker 1: the van. It feels like almost a small return to normalcy.
Speaker 1: It's like a breath of fresh air. But like, oh,
Speaker 1: Dean's back in the van. I'm glad you feel, because
Speaker 1: you know, I feel the best I felt in a
Speaker 1: long time. All Right, Well that'll do it, suck Army,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. Um good. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: Jared said, keep sending us emails. I second dating at
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Speaker 1: talk about lately. We haven't had time to get to them,
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