WEBVTT - Segment 2: Looking Toward the Draft Post FA

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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<v Speaker 1>your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolling. He

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<v Speaker 1>is Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>Nation Radio. And man, I wanted to ask you. We

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<v Speaker 1>started to see some some pro days start to happen

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<v Speaker 1>across the college landscape here, and so you know, Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>and Clemson and some of these other schools have had

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<v Speaker 1>their their pro days. At this point, we've seen the Combine,

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen the Senior Bowl. Have you at all started

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<v Speaker 1>to adjust how you look at the guys in this

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<v Speaker 1>draft of how many guys are first round? Are sure

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<v Speaker 1>fire first round picks? Sort of? Now, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>comment on Jalen Carter's current situation. You know, some information

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<v Speaker 1>came out on him pleading guilty and he's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>some s No contest, actually, no contest. Okay, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there's a distinction there, without question, and he's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the best player in the Soul Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>People are going nuts because, well, Jalen Carter was nine

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<v Speaker 1>pounds heavier than than he was at the combine. No kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's combines guy. Yeah, a three hundred pound guy nine pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it is like, yeah, it's like a two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pound guy gaining four pounds. Yeah right, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one meal, you know or whatever. Yeah, and these guys

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<v Speaker 1>want to be lean at the combine because they're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there in their underwear, and he planned on working out

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<v Speaker 1>in full to combine, but it didn't work out that

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<v Speaker 1>way for him. So you know, that doesn't bother me

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I mean, his tape so good, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the Jalen Carter segment. I mean, I think Will Anderson, Bijeon,

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<v Speaker 1>several others maybe that's it with blue chips. To be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you, quarterbacks aside, we know those four are

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<v Speaker 1>going to go early. I'm warming up to the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>class a little more than I did a month ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I had more concerns than excitement. Now that's swaying a little.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's a great quarterback class. Besides

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<v Speaker 1>those three Anderson, Bijeon and Carter, I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's anyone that's a blue chip. Now. I probably could

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<v Speaker 1>give you ten names which is less than usual that

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<v Speaker 1>basically any year or first rounders. But I don't love

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<v Speaker 1>the first half of the draft, you know, like if

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers are picking ten verse seventeen, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it would be that advantageous. But I do like thirty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Day two a lot. And if I was

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl team, if I'm the Chiefs, the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>of Bills, any of these type of teams, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get a pretty quality player at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. Yeah. If I'm looking at the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I think go in the first round any year, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to include the quarterbacks either, because the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks are they're a different ya. But Anderson, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Tyree Wilson's the first round pick any year. Yeah. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Skronski's a first round pick any year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even if he's at twenty four instead of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>third or whatever, he's going in earlier in this draft

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<v Speaker 1>than other some others. Yeah, he's a first rounder all

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<v Speaker 1>day long. You mentioned Jean Robinson, Um, I think Christi

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<v Speaker 1>is the first round but he's a great player. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Christian Gonzales is a first round pick any year. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about the other corners though, I don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. None of these guys are. While that

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<v Speaker 1>guy's going to be a slam dunk number one cornerback,

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<v Speaker 1>I think some of them have a chance to be

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<v Speaker 1>that Gonzalez trades. I mean he's going early every Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he runs, he's he's got size, he takes the ball away,

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<v Speaker 1>he does everything as you like in any other in

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<v Speaker 1>any year. He's no worse than the third cornerback on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the board, yes, right, right right. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>last year was Stingley in sauce, he would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a very high quality three. Yeah. Um, looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of this, uh, I think Paris Johnson's I mean

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<v Speaker 1>too is a first round days. He's an offensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think you can also say the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the Georgia kid Jones. Yeah. I think Jones

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<v Speaker 1>is similar because of a really good combine as well

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<v Speaker 1>matches the tape. He's a first round pick. Yeah. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Carter is a first round guy no matter what. And

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<v Speaker 1>then after that that might be it. Maybe on Miles Murphy,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's quite yeah, maybe on van Ness, but there's questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't Dkart Wiels over either one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys. I think Smith was probably a first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick no matter what, but maybe earlier this year than

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<v Speaker 1>most years. Like, I don't think he goes ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>Waddle or certainly Chase. You know, guys like that, they've

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<v Speaker 1>been drafted high. But I think in the first frame

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<v Speaker 1>any year he comes out. So let's talk about him,

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<v Speaker 1>because you sent me a text last night. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little excited about him that you would take

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<v Speaker 1>him over a bunch of the guys we just talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're the Steelers at seventeen, if he were in

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<v Speaker 1>last year's draft coming out he had come out last year,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he couldn't so he didn't have the he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the injury plagued year that he just that he

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<v Speaker 1>just had h is Jackson Smith and Jake By the

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<v Speaker 1>number one receiver off the board, I think. So. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he still probably wouldn't have run a grade forty. But

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<v Speaker 1>the people he's competing with, if you know, to refresh everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the guys that he were his teammates right right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Lave and Wilson who were awesome as rookies,

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<v Speaker 1>and they went what eight and eleven? Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he goes ahead of both of them. London was

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<v Speaker 1>either eight or nine, I can't remember. They went right

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<v Speaker 1>next to each other. He was eight maybe for the

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<v Speaker 1>giant receiver, but he would be write in the mix

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<v Speaker 1>with those guys for sure. And then he'd Jamison Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamison Williams transferred to Alabama because of Jackson, Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Jigba right right right exactly. And Williams was my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>receiver in that draft, but he was coming off an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>so he fell a little. And then Dotson went high

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<v Speaker 1>from Penn State. And I think that Smith Najigba is

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<v Speaker 1>clearly a better player than him, So I think he

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<v Speaker 1>would absolutely be in the mix. And I would say, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have been last year's version of Smith na

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<v Speaker 1>Jigba would have been the first receiver off the board.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel pretty strong about that, Yes, coming off the

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<v Speaker 1>year he had. Yeah, So in your rise is Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and Jigba. Could this be a Heath Miller type situation?

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't do anything wrong to her to Stock, He's

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<v Speaker 1>still a good player, still a great player. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the numbers he put up two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago in Ohio State. It's better than anything those

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<v Speaker 1>other guys did. And oh, by the way, one of

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<v Speaker 1>those receivers that he was playing with was just the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive rookie of the year in the NFL, right right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pulling up the draft order now, like you

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<v Speaker 1>never see him mocked near the top. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle at five is probably rich, but Tennessee at eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>Houston at twelve, you know, Patriots of fourteen. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots or fourteen is one that I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any receiver. They just signed. They signed Juju

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<v Speaker 1>dies Juju keep you from drafting Jackson Smith and Jake

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<v Speaker 1>but it wouldn't me, not me, but they signed so

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<v Speaker 1>they I mean they signed mike Yasicki and Juju Smith

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<v Speaker 1>Schuster the last the last two days. But you're really

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<v Speaker 1>two slotters, so they might be out of the Smiths.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I shouldn't I think he can play outside. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I look at him and I see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the same the same things that people were saying about

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Jefferson. Well he was just a slot uh you

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<v Speaker 1>know at LSU. Well, how's that look? Now? Well, much

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<v Speaker 1>like LSU, he was a slot because Jamar Chase was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the outside guys. Yeah, and Tay who was

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal early in his career, was the other outside guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Marshall, I mean, they were all NFL players, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping him in the slot just like Ohio State. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to me, Matt, when when you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's he's on a slot because he's a little

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<v Speaker 1>guys six you know, he's six one, two hundred pounds, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he was a slot because that's where he could

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<v Speaker 1>get on the field the quickest, right, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I look at him, I say, he's shown

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<v Speaker 1>slot receivers see a lot more physicality on the inside. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be kind of a knock. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see it as a knock. So if I to me,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a big, if you're a decent sized receiver

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<v Speaker 1>who's played in the slot, I think you should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to move outside pretty easily for the most part. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes it's speed prohibitive, but speed receivers is

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<v Speaker 1>the most overrated thing in the world without a DeAndre

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<v Speaker 1>Hopkins is a four six guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>held him back in his career. He's physical um and oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the best receiver on in college football

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<v Speaker 1>is at Ohio State right now too, in Harrison Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they have another kid whose name I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This should both be a first round pick next year too.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would they have pulled him out of the

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<v Speaker 1>slot anyway? And it worked your stars everywhere? I love

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<v Speaker 1>Pitt has mentioned next guy. But if Smith and Jigbo

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<v Speaker 1>was a Pitt Panther, he'd been outside, he'd be outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't be just a slot, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Schools in the league. He would not have been just

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<v Speaker 1>a slot. If he had played with Kenny Pickett two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago instead of Jordan Addison, it had been better. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have been better, all right? Yeah, So why are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking so much about him? Because I'm now infatuated with him?

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<v Speaker 1>They need an receiver early, absolutely not, they don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>like their receiver room. I have hopes for Austin and Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>I think slot is their weakest receiver spot at this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But we even come close to doing this, but we

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<v Speaker 1>do it every year. Who are your top seventeen players?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking through the Steeler's eyes, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling he's gonna be like fifth for me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to be so high because to

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<v Speaker 1>start the shows, he's a first rounder every year and

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<v Speaker 1>there aren't many of them. So I think he fills

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<v Speaker 1>a need. It's not a must have, it's a want.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a need for a slot receiver. Here's my

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<v Speaker 1>thought process of it. If if he is there at seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to the podium with the seventeenth pick of

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, the pitch first Steeler Silextracson Smith and the Jigba.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm the Bengals, Browns and Ravens, I go, oh crap.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, think of this through the opponent's eyes. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're any defensive player or defensive coordinator, Boy, did this

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<v Speaker 1>offense just get so much harder to play against? And

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<v Speaker 1>your quarterback, who's the most important asset in the whole place,

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<v Speaker 1>is thanking you up and down because his life got easier.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think you become really hard to play

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<v Speaker 1>against with a guy like that. But he's the only

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<v Speaker 1>one on considered. I don't want Adison, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>the others, you know, just him. Yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people are centering in on Addison

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<v Speaker 1>because of course the connection with with Picket at Pitt

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<v Speaker 1>But Smith and Jigba was a better player, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's quote just a slot doesn't bother me

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<v Speaker 1>at all for the Steelers because that's where I want

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<v Speaker 1>to play him anyway, And if he can do more,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't great. I think he can do more. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>infatuated a player. If Jordan Addison ends up on the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to cry about it. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Jagbo is a great fit and makes you

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<v Speaker 1>really really hard to play against. Yeah, absolutely, so that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. You know, I look at some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other things. Now would I take him over some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other guys that I'm infatuated with myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I can go there, but if they

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<v Speaker 1>did it, I wouldn't kill it. I mean to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if Brian Brusse is there, I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>still taking Brian Brusse because I want the big guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll definitely be my top seventeen, but it'll be after

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<v Speaker 1>Smith n Jigbo. Okay, all right, you know you could

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<v Speaker 1>probably talk me into, you know, waiting on Brian Branch,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're probably not going to get Brian Branch at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two. I don't think so. I'd be very happy

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<v Speaker 1>with Branch seven. Ye, you know. So it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just more options, I think. To me, then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just look at this draft and say, okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there are some guys there. If if your top three

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<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks are gone and and or you have one of these,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Smith's and Jake By ahead of Joey Porter,

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<v Speaker 1>I would get that. I'm leaning that way. Same with Witherspoon,

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<v Speaker 1>Nkins of right right, um, you know if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you have him again. To me, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the planet theory comes into play a little bit with

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<v Speaker 1>between him and Brussey, I'll hear you. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that take the talented big guy who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is still just twenty. I think he's twenty one, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just turned twenty two, like might be your defensive

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<v Speaker 1>captain for the next you know, eight years after cameratires,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, right, No, I think he has great value

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<v Speaker 1>and there aren't many and unlike corner you're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>a fac simile to him in the one day two No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the other part of that equation and

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<v Speaker 1>a guy you know, you could line up on Day

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<v Speaker 1>one with Brussee at nose tackle between Cam Heyward and

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<v Speaker 1>Larryog and Jobi. Yes, I agree now, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't want that one hundred percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>time because you know that's not his ideal fit. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's played nose. Yeah what were you? Yeah? And I

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<v Speaker 1>would prefer that. There were times last year and they

0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.480
<v Speaker 1>were putting Cam Heyward on the nose. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. No. I mean it's different if it's

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<v Speaker 1>third and long, but I mean if it's first and

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<v Speaker 1>ten against Ravens, that's not what you want to be doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, Um, real quick back to Smith and Jigba. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that if I don't get him in

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<v Speaker 1>round one, I'm better get with day two slot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel that way. I just love this player, you know. Yeah,

0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that's all about the just about this guy. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>taking the best player available. And that's the other great

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<v Speaker 1>thing that what they've done thus far in free agency

0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.800
<v Speaker 1>has set them up to do. That's why I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>good with it too, right, want to do more side

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<v Speaker 1>between now and the draft and they'll be like, wow,

0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that's really plausible. Together now, you could just take anybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Edmonds is on the team, or Bud the Prix

0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.320
<v Speaker 1>or whoever, you know, whatever it is. I mean, those

0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.200
<v Speaker 1>are basically those two spots safety and outside linebacker third

0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.640
<v Speaker 1>outside linebacker. Right now, those are the only two absolute needs,

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<v Speaker 1>right that might not be I mean, like they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>draft a corner, but they're not gonna sign another corner

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<v Speaker 1>right right, you know, unless you know somebody gets cut

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<v Speaker 1>loose that they just got to take that guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe he's out there type of thing, right Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And like Pete Scronsky did nothing wrong obviously in the

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<v Speaker 1>last week. He's still a really good prospect, But now

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<v Speaker 1>that they've signed a guard, he's not gonna be real

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<v Speaker 1>high on my list, you know, Like I'll take Smith

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<v Speaker 1>Najigbo over Scronsky. But if you're give me a pure

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle, I'm still interested. But I just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to take a lineman and we'll find a spot for

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<v Speaker 1>him anymore, you know, Like I think that's less valuable

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<v Speaker 1>after her big signing. No, I agree with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know the people who are pigeonholing.

0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.720
<v Speaker 1>And you see this a lot nationally, the people pigeon

0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.680
<v Speaker 1>holding the Steelers. Steelers have to go offensive lineman where

0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they have to go cornerback. I don't think they have

0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to do anything now they can. The board is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>open for them. Like Osires, Torrence is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be my top seventeen no, I mean right, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the only thing I know that they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to take is a quarterback or a running back. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it's probably a tight end in the first round.

0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Probably not probably not. Those spots are all kind of filled.

0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.080
<v Speaker 1>But they could, you know, they could. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they if they fell in love with with John

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Schmidt's or Tipman or something like that, they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna take an interior linement at seventeen. But if

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<v Speaker 1>they took one of those guys at thirty two, be like, oh, okay,

0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I get it, right, yeah, uh you know, you know,

0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.400
<v Speaker 1>if they if they do happen to you know, one

0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of the tackles falls to them, Okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're you're gonna take a tackle at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not take one of the most island ones out there? Yeah,

0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:56.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just a matter of how high and if that

0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.520
<v Speaker 1>guy you know who's available, but they're not, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do any of that stuff in the first

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<v Speaker 1>if with their first three picks, those first three picks

0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:10.520
<v Speaker 1>could be basically at any position. Maybe maybe fight you

0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.879
<v Speaker 1>on is I still think a corner with one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first three picks, No, if it has to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>But should Oh it's yeah, I definitely should. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the way that this draft is going to fall,

0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it probably will because that's that's where the values at exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not by accident. To set yourself up for

0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.679
<v Speaker 1>that too. Right, well, I think you you know the

0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.720
<v Speaker 1>roster moves that you make in free ages here with

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind, I mean, that's that's why some of

0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:41.320
<v Speaker 1>these cornerbacks aren't getting paid huge money and free agency

0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:46.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly same everybody. Everybody knows this is a deep cornerback draft, right,

0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.320
<v Speaker 1>right or right? I mean, and again it's not quite

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<v Speaker 1>the same. It's not apples apples, but these tight ends

0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.439
<v Speaker 1>are getting nothing. Well everyone's say, I'm gonna get mine

0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.160
<v Speaker 1>in the drafty, just wait, take a young guy that's

0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that I've got cost control for four years at least Yeah,

0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.520
<v Speaker 1>d tackles are getting paid like crazy. Well there's like

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.920
<v Speaker 1>two or three you really like the draft, you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get them, you know. Yeah, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just the way it goes when you're when

0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.639
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at these things. I mean, you get the draft.

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has now seen had eyes on um, you know

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.720
<v Speaker 1>these guys at some point, and it's got a pretty

0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.840
<v Speaker 1>good idea of how this all breaks down. The Pro

0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.200
<v Speaker 1>days and things of that nature aren't going to necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>change this greatly. Somebody's not gonna come charging it. Oh

0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.240
<v Speaker 1>this I thought this guy was a fourth round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's a first rounder. No, that's not going to happen.

0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.680
<v Speaker 1>That's not gonna happen. I mean, there'll be a couple

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<v Speaker 1>forties at pro days that are better or worse than

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<v Speaker 1>the combine, and you can say, well, one of those

0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.679
<v Speaker 1>days he had a bad day, or there's there's certainly

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.119
<v Speaker 1>more medicals, you know, that's certainly still out there. You know,

0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.480
<v Speaker 1>there'll be a second round of medical checks in Indianapolis,

0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and that could you know, put a fine great on things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guarantee teams don't value Pro days. That's down

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<v Speaker 1>the list of things that they're accumulating a paid for

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's perfect situations for the players. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're throwing your own guys, Christine, Yeah, you know you

0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 1>you say what what I'm okay, I'm gonna throw you know,

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.639
<v Speaker 1>fifteen outs today because I know I do it really well.

0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, I'm not gonna throw fifteen go routes

0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.840
<v Speaker 1>because I don't do that very well. Exactly exactly. It's

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.000
<v Speaker 1>not windy that day. I think back of the like

0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Ta's workout at Alabama a couple of years ago. I'm watching,

0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.520
<v Speaker 1>like people are raving about his workout. I'm watching it.

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.000
<v Speaker 1>In every pacity threw was like eight yards. Look at

0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 1>this one. Look at his workout. Okay, he threw a

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.119
<v Speaker 1>bunch of eight yard passes. Yeah, he's not throwing twenty

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.159
<v Speaker 1>yard in routes where he's got to drive it, you know,

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.640
<v Speaker 1>over a linebacker or whatever. Too. Yeah, we're all scripted,

0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, bench press is a bench press

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.080
<v Speaker 1>forties basically a forty, but you know, if it's a

0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 1>fast track and things like that too. But most of

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<v Speaker 1>the hay is in the barn for these guys. Great, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, and this is This is why Mike

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Tomlin goes likes to go to the pro days, the

0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:59.119
<v Speaker 1>meet and greet situations, the opportunity to have boots on

0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the ground and and see these guys in their environment. Yeah,

0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.119
<v Speaker 1>and how they interact with people I think is beneficial,

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>no doubt. And teams taking out the dinner or pull

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>him aside. You know, it's not sit down in this

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 1>little apartment for fifteen minutes while a horn blows to

0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 1>go in and out. You know, it's a lot more

0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.840
<v Speaker 1>not relaxed, but it's a lot more real in my opinion.

0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was thinking, like you mentioned Jalen

0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Carter boy, he was a little heavier this pro day,

0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like he should have his own private workout a month

0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.679
<v Speaker 1>from now. Tear it apart. Everybody comes, he spends all

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.800
<v Speaker 1>day with everybody, goes to the podium, answers every question,

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna be talking about, Oh, he might

0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.200
<v Speaker 1>be the third overall pick. Yeah, he probably had three

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.159
<v Speaker 1>teams take him out to dinner the night before the

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:50.119
<v Speaker 1>pro day. He probably he probably ate three stakes before

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the night before. Like if Arizona asked you to go out,

0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you say yes. They the third pick of the draft right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it could be true. Hey, you can subscribe now

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