1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: players for Steve. Steve a blimp. We're not even in 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: the strategyre of normalcy here, all right. We got the 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: band back together here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Tasker with you. One Bills Live is the show and 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: we're here until three pm plenty to get to today. 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: We've got a star studied lineup for you of Bills 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: players of yesteryear that should be entertaining, to say the least, 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: and partly for a good reason which we'll get too shortly, 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: because of some coaching staff additions made to Sean McDermott's 12 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: staff in the wake of some departures. So we'll get 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: to that in due course here. But Steve wanted me 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: to address my new little platform here on set for 15 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: those of you that can see this, our MSG viewers 16 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, see us every day obviously, and we're behind 17 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: a desk that it's a it's like a crescent shaped desk, right, 18 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: it's a bar it's a bar height, but it's yeah, 19 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: it's bar heights, so like a regular office chair. So 20 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: Brandon feels comfy. Yeah, feels right. Yeah. So a regular 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: office chair is it just doesn't work. It's not high enough, 22 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: like you would see my eyeballs. Right, So above the 23 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: desk a guy wore sat in an office chair. They 24 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: used to have us in bar height, barstool height, barstool 25 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: heights chairs, right, I mean so they had like the 26 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: ring around the bottom where you put your feet on 27 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: them and stuff like this. Now, when I started doing this, 28 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: it's like four years ago, and I couldn't figure it out. 29 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: But I started getting aches and pains. Right were legs 30 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: in my legs? I start, I went to the dark. 31 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: They were gonna they were gonna replace my knees. And 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: I thought, wow, you know career, you know, I had 33 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: some worked and I said, oh, I probably makes sense. 34 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, I think it's the chair, 35 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: you know. So so so Jay, I go, Jay, I 36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: think you fix me up. So Jay has the guys 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: here at the operation guys they come over, and of 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: course those guys are they come in with them too, 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: and it's like I got this now. I got this 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: big two by twelve platform like four by four feet 41 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: by four feet that I and I have a regular 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: desk office chair. Yea, my all the problems I had 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the knee replacement is now never gonna happen. I'm good, 44 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I feel great. Right. Meanwhile, Brownie has still been sitting 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: on this bar stool. And I'm shorter than you, right, so, 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: like you know the little ring at the bottom of 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: a bar stool office chair where you put your feet on, 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: like I am reaching and am stretching for it with 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: my toes. And so sometimes during a break, I get 50 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: off the chair, you know, go in the control room, 51 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: you know, talk with the guys about the next segment 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: or whatever. And I got pins and needles in my 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: feet because I like that's what was hutting off the circulation. 54 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: I was my legs were killing me. So I could 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: so now this over this since I was gone. I 56 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: was gone for the weekend, right, I come back. Now 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Brownie's got the platform. I've got the same platform, and 58 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: he's back in fighting trim. So I've got a regular 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: office chair now with armrests and everything. It just makes it. 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: I didn't things, you know, I had sat in that. 61 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I've sat on that side a couple of times when 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: you were out or for one of the pregame shows 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: during the season that I do with Maddie, Right, I'm like, man, 64 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: this is nice to get one of It makes an 65 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: incredible difference. So thanks to Jim Willoughby and the other 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: guys and operations that you know, put this together. And 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: I poo poo that all the time because people say, well, 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: I needed a new desk chair, and I was like, 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: I just don't think about that as being a thing. Man, 70 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, what a difference it makes. And I know 71 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who sit all day at 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: the same spot and do stuff, you know, the hour 73 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: or whatever, the day whatever, and oh my gosh, you 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: gotta have the right equipment. I gotta say. It's it's 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: a weird feeling because I'm in an office chair and 76 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: yet I feel taller than I I did in the Bartola. 77 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: It makes absolutely no sense. I'm sitting at the same desk, 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: but for some reason I feel taller, like somebody gave 79 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: my chair lifts. We are shifting gears man now in 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: top fighting trim now because we're yeah, we're ready to roll. 81 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: We are, I mean we are ready to roll. And uh, 82 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: we've got a great lineup for you today coming up 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour. We will be joined 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: by former Bills tight end Lee Smith, who, as many 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: of you know, already, at the close of the season 86 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: which he spent with the Atlanta Falcons in twenty twenty one, 87 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: he announced his retirement. We had him on here in 88 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: December prior to the Bills Falcons game here in Buffalo, 89 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: and he gave inclinations then that he was close to 90 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: the end and strongly considering retirement. I believe his oldest 91 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: son is going to be in high school next year. 92 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: Wanted to catch him playing football, see his games rather 93 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: than playing in games. So you totally get it. And 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: he's got a great, great post playing career program that 95 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: he has set up in Nashville. He's a Tennessee native 96 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: and it's basically a training center, a high end like 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: a lead training center for prominent high school and college 98 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: athletes to prepare for the next level. And he's got 99 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: that thing up and running and he's going to be 100 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: doing that in his retirement. So good on him, you know, 101 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: for having that post playing career plan. Not everybody has 102 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: a plan. He's got one, and it's like he's ready 103 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: to hit the ground running with it now that he's retired. 104 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: It's not like, well, you know, in a year, we'll 105 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: have this thing going. He's been planning this and so 106 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: we'll talk to Lee about that, and we have something 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: up our leave. When Lee comes in, we're not going 108 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: to tell him what it is, but we're gonna surprise him, 109 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: and so you want to stay tuned for that. That's 110 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. Second hour of the show, 111 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna get some key insight on Buffalo's newest addition 112 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: to the coaching staff. The news broke last night. Aaron 113 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Cromer is the new offensive line coach for the Bills, 114 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: but he had been here before. He coached Buffalo's offensive 115 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: line in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, two very successful 116 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: seasons for that offensive line here in Buffalo, and one 117 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: of the members of it, Eric Wood, our good friend 118 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Eric would, will be joining us in the second hour 119 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: of the show to talk about Cromer and his strengths 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: as an offensive line coach. He most recently has been 121 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: with the La Rams for the last what was it, 122 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen to twenty twenty. He was with the Rams, 123 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: so not this past season, but the previous four seasons. 124 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: He had been working with the Rams as their offensive 125 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: line coach slash run game coordinator. So we all know 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: the exploits of the Rams offense over the last several years. 127 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: They're in the super Bowl. So we'll talk to Eric 128 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Wood about Aaron Cromer, how he operates, how he works 129 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: with his players, the type of coach he is, the 130 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: techniques that he preaches, and how that might fit with 131 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's offense. I think Steve a lot of Bill's 132 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: fans look at Aaron Cromer's resume, especially his two years 133 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. I mean, he le the team led 134 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: the league in rushing both years twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. 135 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: They averaged one hundred and fifty two rushing yards a 136 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: game in twenty fifteen and then one hundred and sixty 137 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: four in twenty sixteen. And people are worried. They're like, 138 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's gonna take the ball out of 139 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allenson. Look, this team is not doing that. That 140 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: is not going to happen. What they're not doing that 141 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: I was talking to you before the show might take 142 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: on this whole thing is it's not going to change anything. 143 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: What it might do is this. I don't think they're 144 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: never gonna make this offense less dynamic than it was. 145 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna try and keep it right, whereas they'll go 146 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: even further, make it even more dynamic, more deep balls, 147 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: and put the ball in Josh's hands more. But I 148 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: will say this, if you get a guy that can 149 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: draw running plays and put together a plan. And remember 150 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Tyrod was the quarterback and he added a lot to 151 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: the running game back then in twenty fifteen and sixteen 152 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: when Chromer was here, those guys you know ran the 153 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: ball well and Tyrod was a sprinkling. But here's what 154 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: he'll do. I think it'll give the offense a chance 155 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: that when they're having trouble protecting Josh and they get 156 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: into a game like they did an opening day against Pittsburgh, 157 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: or they get into a game like they did in Jacksonville, 158 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: they give him something to go to to get him 159 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: out of a bad game, get him through a bad game, 160 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: and make some score, some points, move the ball. It's 161 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: like using your second and third pitches as a major 162 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: league pitch. If their running game, can you know, if 163 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: we don't have to wait till the last month month 164 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: of the season to get a running game that's effective 165 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: or if you go out there and you decide you 166 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: want to run it, and you go out there and 167 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: put it in their face, and you can make some 168 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: hay whenever you want. That's a different animal than the 169 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Bills have been in over the course of the last 170 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: three or four years. And certainly they had a nice 171 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: month of the season at the end of the year 172 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: this year when Devon was getting going around in their 173 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: offensive line, finally got five guys on the field for 174 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: more than you know, the same five guys on the 175 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: field for more than one or two or a game 176 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: and a half, so they start to get some cohesion. 177 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: But I think if Chromer can come in and help 178 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: them get their running game to a point where it 179 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: can get them through a tough spot where they're having 180 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: they're struggling to throw the football for one reason or 181 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: the other. They can beat a team left handed. They 182 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: couldn't beat anybody left handed this year, you know what 183 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean. They had to throw the football. And I'll 184 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: submit this too. When did Josh Allen play his best 185 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: football this year? When did he play his most product 186 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: to football at the end of the year. At the 187 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: end of the year and in the playoffs, when the 188 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Bills run game was the most respected and productive it 189 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: had been all year long. So, you know, I think 190 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: there's this prevailing notion that, you know, you get an 191 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: offensive line coach whose biggest things on his resume are 192 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: league leading rushing totals and stuff, and people panic. Josh 193 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: Allen has established himself as an elite quarterback in this league. 194 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: The Bills are aware of it. Their offensive coaching staff 195 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: is aware of it. The offense is going to run 196 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: through him and his right arm. Okay, primarily more than 197 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: anything else. It would be foolish not to, but there 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: is something to be said to have a supporting cast 199 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: that can provide something on the ground in addition to 200 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's own legs that provides production that can be 201 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: counted upon when and as Steve pointed out, maybe the 202 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: passing game isn't firing on all cylinders. So in my mind, 203 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Cromer helps in that regard, and so going forward, 204 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: this should be an offense that still has its main 205 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: focal point, which is Josh Allen, but also possesses the 206 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: ability to beat you in a different way when things 207 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: may not be looking like a well oiled machine on 208 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: a given Sunday in the passing game that is enormously valuable. 209 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: That's what you've got to get to. And that's that's 210 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: the perfect spot because you got this guy in Josh Allen, 211 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: who wouldn't it be nice if he started twenty twenty 212 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: two right where he left twenty twenty one in the playoffs. 213 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they were, I mean, and I went to 214 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: a family function where I grew up in Kansas and 215 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: of course everybody back there is gaga over Kansas City, 216 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: and I get it, but I'll say this, everybody out 217 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: there was like where we were, We wish that game 218 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: was still going on. Yeah, right, that's why you want 219 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: to change the rules because they wanted it. They nobody 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: wanted that game to end. It was entertainment with the 221 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: capital and that's why. And even the Chiefs fans were 222 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: like wow, because they you know, they want to forget 223 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: about their last game against the Bengals. They want to 224 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: think about the Bills game is just as much as 225 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: Bills and fans want to talk about the Chiefs game 226 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: as well. It was just so fun to watch. And 227 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: that's you know, so if he can if Josh can 228 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: pick up in twenty twenty one, somewhere in that neighborhood 229 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: and go particularly with an offense that you know, sprinkles 230 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: in a more solid and dependable and consistent running game. Yeah, okay, 231 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: that's where the game's going. That's where you're gonna hang 232 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: your hat in twenty twenty two. And Josh and Digs 233 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: and whoever is the wide receiver question. This is a 234 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: roster we don't know what's gonna look like. There's a 235 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: ton of uncertainty about. There's sixteen guys on this roster 236 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: and they're contributors that are really question marks is to 237 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do and what's going to happen to him. 238 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: Plus there's some guys that you know that didn't contribute 239 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: like in the way you thought they would, that you 240 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: know they may do something with them. So it's there's 241 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty headed into this offseason. I won't 242 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to remind everybody before you panic or if 243 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: you're having doubts, that's where they were last year too. Yeah, 244 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: it's where they were last year. It'll all fit together 245 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: in due time, that's right. NFL News and Notes, NFL Network, 246 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: sing and Rappiport reporting the Steelers are scheduled to interview 247 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: ESPN Monday Night football commentator Lewis Riddick for their vacant 248 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: GM job. Kevin Colbert after the draft, will be retiring 249 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: as GM of the Steelers, so they are obviously in 250 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: the throws of trying to find his successor in Pittsburgh. 251 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, Lewis Riddick would be over 252 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: the moon to be the GM of the Pittsburgh Steelers, 253 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: having played his college ball at pitt and I believe 254 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, his other brothers all played in the state 255 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania college ball. So to be GM of the 256 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean, man, that's got to be a 257 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: dream come true for him. So we'll see where that goes. 258 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: We've and we've said it too. And he's been UM 259 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: out of the league since thirteen I think somebody he's 260 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: been in the broadcast industry, right, So UM, I've always 261 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: been really impressed when you speak to him. There's a 262 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: guy that's got a really good head on his shoulders, 263 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: really smart guy. UM has been in and around the 264 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: game at higher levels, uh, and behind the curtain as well. 265 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: You know from from he he's watched the sausage get 266 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: made enough. Um, he's got experience in how to deal 267 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: with ownership and also the league office and other gms, 268 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: and just um, I think it's a good movie. I 269 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: like the guy. I got a lot of respect for him. 270 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of guys on our show as guests. 271 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: He had him on our show this season, and and 272 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, you listen to the guy talk. You listen 273 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: and he talked. Hear him even as an analyst on TV. 274 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Get a sense of where his head's at and where 275 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, his mind frame would be. I think he's 276 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: a really strong candidate. And I don't know anybody else 277 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: that they're talking to, but man, oh man, you could. 278 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: It used to never happen, getting guys out of the 279 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: media and coming in, you know. But you know, since 280 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: I think since John Madden started doing that kind of 281 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: stuff where he came back and would advise the league 282 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: and give and drop suggestions publicly, I think that they're 283 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: more open to it. And I think teams are more 284 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: open to it, and they should be. They should be. 285 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: Joe Judge, the former Giant's head coach, apparently is going 286 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: to get hired by the Patriots to serve as an 287 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: offensive assistant there are there is speculation in New England 288 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: that this hire is done with the long game in mind, 289 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is reporters up there 290 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: are giving indication that they believe Bill O'Brien will ultimately 291 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: be hired as their new offensive coordinator now that Josh 292 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: McDaniels is the head coach with the and that Joe 293 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Judge will be the successor in waiting, because the anticipation 294 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: is even if Bill O'Brien is installed as a new 295 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in New England, it could only be a 296 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: year or two before he's part of the next hiring 297 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: cycle for head coaches in the league. I don't know 298 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: how accurate that is, but it looks like they're trying 299 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: to put a succession plan in place after losing a 300 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: guy who had been their offensive coordinator for the better 301 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: part of the last ten years. After leaving once before 302 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: for the Denver Broncos head coaching job and then coming 303 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: back to the team, McDaniels was trying to get Joe 304 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: Judge to be a special teams coordinator out in Las Vegas, 305 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: but apparently he has chosen instead to go back to 306 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: New England and serve as an offensive assistant there. Meanwhile, 307 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: the Giants, you remember, Brian Dable at his press conference 308 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: last week said he would have liked to retain current 309 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Giants defensive coordinator Patrick Graham, but he's been in line 310 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: for a bunch of other jobs around the league after 311 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: his head coach was dismissed. And it does not look 312 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: like Patrick Graham's going to be back with the New 313 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: York Giants because the Giants have hired former Baltimore defensive 314 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: coordinator Wink Martindale to be their DC. So that looks 315 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: like that has happened there. And really the only other 316 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: interesting news on the coaching front that came down was 317 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: NFL Networks Tom Pella Sero is reporting that Chiefs offensive 318 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: coordinator Eric b Enemy's contract is expiring this year. It's 319 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: not certain as to when it expired, whether it was 320 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: end of the season, whether it's end of February, it's unclear. 321 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: I think it might be more interesting that he was 322 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: really only in the running for one of the open 323 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: coaching positions, and this was one of the few years 324 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: where he was available to be interviewed because his team 325 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: wasn't in the Super Bowl, and he still didn't get 326 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: a job because all the jobs are close now that 327 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith and Dennis Allen were hired by the Texans 328 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: and the Saints respectively for their head coaching positions. So 329 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: it really makes you scratch your head on b enemy. 330 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of theories out there 331 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: as to why he hasn't been hired yet as a 332 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: head coach. I'm not going to add to the to 333 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: the theories that are out there, but it does make 334 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: me scratch my head a little bit. A guy that's 335 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: been enormously productive in Kansas City. I'm sure when you 336 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes as a quarterback, maybe that pulls some 337 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: of the credit away from you to a certain extent 338 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: because of the generational talent that he is, but still 339 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: at all and also the credit to your head coach gets. 340 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: But it has been said that the enemy calls a 341 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: place in Kansas City. Yeah, Andy Reid handed that over 342 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: to him a couple of years ago. I want to say, Um, 343 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: so there's that maybe, Um yeah, you'd like to think 344 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: although in this climate, um you never know. I mean 345 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: that it goes beyond him being African American. Who who knows, um, 346 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: how many guys he's how many interviews he's had what 347 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: he has interviewed, like how the different interviews have gone 348 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: um and may yeah, But like you said that, it 349 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: could be when you get him in a room, it 350 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: seems like, you know, Pat Mahomes is the guy that's 351 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: getting it done over there. Word Andy Reid's getting it 352 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: done over there, Tyree Hilling. They're so good in Kansas City, though, 353 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: it just strikes me as impossible that he's not a 354 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, like like the candidates, right, I mean, because 355 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: you see how you know, the hot, high scoring offenses 356 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: are what a lot of these owners tend to covet 357 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: when they have a vacant head coaching position. I mean, 358 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: look at all the guys. Look at some of the 359 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: guys that got hired. McVeagh, Kevinsbury, Kevin O'Connell is going 360 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: to be named the Minnesota Vikings head coach after the 361 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: Super Bowl's over because by Ruley Campy, because his team's 362 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: still playing, But all indications are he's going to be 363 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: the head coach in Minnesota. He's thirty six. You know, 364 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, he's getting hired as the head coach in Miami. 365 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: The press conference, I believe is today he's thirty six 366 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: years old. This is what the owners are after, These 367 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: hot shot offensive coaches, you know that can help their quarterbacks. 368 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: That's really what they're looking at. And I understand the 369 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: advantage because if you hire the offensive guy as your 370 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: head coach, you never run the risk of losing him 371 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: because he's your head coach, I mean unless you fire him. 372 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: Whereas you know, if you hire a defensive coach and 373 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: you got an offensive guy working with a young quarterback, 374 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: he develops him and they're successful, he's probably gonna get 375 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: plucked away by some other team to be their head coach, 376 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: as we saw with the Bills with Brian Dable going 377 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: to the Giants, right, And that's become a defense mechanism 378 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams. One of their head one 379 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: of their coordinators, or one of the major things is 380 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: done by your head coach, because you don't want to 381 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: lose both coordinators in an offseason, like the Bills thought 382 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: they were going to the last couple of years. This 383 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: year that lost one. So you want to have your 384 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: head coach be able to step into that role with 385 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: some confidence and some experience at doing it, like for instance, 386 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: the Giants hired Joe Judge. He was a special teams coordinator. 387 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: He's never never called plays offensively or defensively, and so 388 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: that's a different animal. Same thing with John Harbaugh. He 389 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: got hired by the Ravens back in the day he 390 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: was a special teams coordinator. It's happened over the course 391 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: of ye but you always it has become that kind 392 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: of safety net of Listen, we're gonna as soon as 393 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: we get good, we're gonna get poached. So we gotta 394 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: have some things in place to keep that from happening. 395 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: One of them is to have your head coach calling plays. 396 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones at eight three, five fifty 397 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: and talk to Tom in Buffalo. Tom, what do you 398 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, guys, 399 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: I was just second. Is a concept for the Bills 400 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: to go in the future. Should they hire all the 401 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: free agent coaches that are out there, all the top 402 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: ones that are available, so that as long as they're 403 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: willing to collaborate with the other coaches. There's assistant coaches 404 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: at every position. So I just think they should hire 405 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: the best ones that are out there, bring them in. 406 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: We got the talent. We just got to get over that. Hump. 407 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: What do you think, guys? Yeah, I mean I think 408 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: already time to a certain extent, the Bills have assistants 409 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of the positions like Bobby Johnson was 410 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: the old line coaches. Assistant offensive line coach was Ryan Wendell. 411 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Special teams, there's a special teams coordinator and an assistant 412 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: special teams coach. Yeah, in the case for several years, 413 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: I would say the only position groups where there isn't 414 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: an assistant right behind them is running back, wide receiver, 415 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: although the Bills have an assistant wide receivers coach, it's 416 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: Mark Mark Lubeck, who's also you know, game day a 417 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: strategy coach, tight ends coach. They don't have an assistant 418 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: tight ends coach here. They don't have an assistant running 419 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: backs coach, but they have an assistant old line coach. 420 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: They have an assistant d line coach. Linebackers is another 421 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: one where I don't think they have an assistant here, 422 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: but they have a secondary coach, John Butler. Then they 423 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: have an assistant coach in Bobby Babbage. Then they have 424 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: a nickel coach in James Salgado. So you got three 425 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: coaches coach in the DBS I mean there are a 426 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: lot of assistants on the roster already, not only that, Tom, 427 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: If you hire a high caliber assistant coach, you know 428 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: that's out there and you try to make him like 429 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: the assistant to the guy running the position group. If 430 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: he's a high caliber coach, he's not taking that job 431 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: because he knows he can get a better one. Why 432 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: am I going to be the assistant to the tight 433 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: ends coach when I'm good enough to be a tight 434 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: ends coach and somebody will hire me for that's his 435 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: I think Tom's theory is that if you hire all 436 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: the really good guys out there, you never have to 437 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: hire any other coach. You hire them, and then when 438 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: you guys get poached, they can come back. And also what, 439 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: you gotta have jobs for them, right um, And you 440 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: gotta have they gotta feel like they're contributing. I mean 441 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: just and plus if you got to say, you know what, 442 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: have you got fifty five assistant coaches on the staff? 443 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: What are they all gonna do? Plus how do they 444 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: how do you get all the information that they can 445 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: go out and get and bring it in and and 446 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: and contribute on game day? You got fifty five voices 447 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: in the room all at once. That's that's cumbersome. Um, 448 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Um, you get a lot 449 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: of creativity in that, no question. But you know, and 450 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: then certainly there's no salary cap for the coaching staff. 451 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: So you know, if you can get you know, Terry 452 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: and Kim to Yeah, you can have We'll start paying 453 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: these guys a you know, an extra eight digits on 454 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: our payroll. That that's that's just to have them, just 455 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: to have them on it's just him on a retainer. 456 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: It's pretty big staff right now. I'll say, yeah, so 457 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: probably one of the large I get what you're saying. 458 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If if the guy's are really 459 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: really good coach, you know, like a hot up and comer, 460 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: all that suff reach out to him. Yeah, no questions. 461 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: See if you can get him, but you gotta have 462 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: a specific thing for him to do, a role for 463 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: him to fill. You can't just have him just standing by. 464 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: He's because you know, these guys, they want to coach. 465 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: They don't just want to come in and have an office. Right. 466 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: We touched on this briefly late in the show yesterday. Steve, 467 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take on him, because I 468 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: know we've had discussions about this. Kyler Murray unfollowed the 469 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals on his Instagram and Twitter accounts, pulled any Cardinals 470 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: related photos off of his Instagram social media page. It 471 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: has led to some speculation in Arizona as to just 472 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: what that means. He's not publicly expressed any desire to 473 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: leave it Arizona Cardinals by any means. I mean, for 474 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: gosh sakes, he's playing for the guy that coached him 475 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: in college. That's his head coach. But the disappointing end 476 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: to the regular season as well as the bad playoff loss, 477 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: has some Cardinals fans in Arizona panicking a little bit. 478 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: And I was on with Dad Brown yesterday and Thad 479 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: put this in very good perspective. He goes, I guess 480 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: this would be the equivalent of Josh Allen pulling all 481 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: his bill stuff off of his social media accounts. And 482 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: what kind of uproar would that create. I mean, it 483 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: would create a little bit of a panic situation. Now 484 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: you add in the fact, Steve that when Kyler Murray 485 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: got drafted, if you remember, there were questions about his 486 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: commitment to the game of football because he was also 487 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: drafted by the Oakland A's of Major League Baseball. Well, 488 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: you know what he's got a he's playing quarterback in 489 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's playing at a high level. But he's 490 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: got a baseball guy's mentality, and it's an it was 491 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: a baseball's an individual sport wrapped around a team in 492 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: an inside a team framework, and that it's yeah, he's 493 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: doing something, there's no question about it. Yeah there is 494 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: something behind it. What it is, Maybe it's inconsequential. But 495 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: if he's not self aware enough to realize that this 496 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: is put in the organization like, they gotta now, they 497 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: gotta address it right, and it's what are you doing? 498 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: What are you doing? You have to recognize your level 499 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: of importance to the football team. You're the franchise quarterback. 500 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: Stuff like that will get noticed, it will not go unnoticed, 501 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: and you have to understand the potential speculation and repercussions 502 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: that may follow actions like that. It might seem silly, 503 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: but if he's got if he's got a reason or 504 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: what if he perceives to have a reason to do that, 505 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: the club should already know about it. Right if they 506 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: don't know about it, If this is news to them, 507 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: what are you six could pick up the phone like 508 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: a man and call them, say listen, hey, I'm thinking 509 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: and calling Cliff kingsbring say Cliff from going here going forward. 510 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: I want to have I want to be able to 511 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: have a voice here here and here when our meetings, 512 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: in our draft and make that happen. Let's just talk 513 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: about and making that happen. I want to step forward 514 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: in the offseason. I have a bigger voice in what 515 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: direction that offense is headed. If that's all of that, 516 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: A phone call works a little subtle social media, Are 517 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: you joking? I don't know. That's that's a wait wait, 518 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: that's like that's like middle school drama. Well, yeah it is. 519 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: What are you doing? I don't know what to call 520 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: it at this level, but it's definitely strange, and it's 521 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: going to People are gonna follow up on this. People 522 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: are gonna start doing digging now because of this, and 523 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: we'll see what gets unearthed. But it's definitely strange. All right, 524 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: we have to take a break because when we come back, 525 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: we will be joined by Bills form a tight end, 526 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Lee Smith, fresh into retirement. We'll check in with Lee 527 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Collat of Health. 528 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One 529 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Please to 530 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: be joined now by the man who spent six years 531 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: of his eleven year playing career in a Bill's uniform, 532 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: including most recently the twenty nineteen and twenty twenty seasons. 533 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: And he is the pride of Powell, Tennessee. And he 534 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: has finally called at a career. And we first say 535 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: congratulations to one Lee Smith on a career that lasts 536 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: a lot longer than the NFL average. I don't have 537 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: to tell Lee it's only about three three and a 538 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: half years for the average NFL career. He pretty much 539 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: tripled that figure. So congrats on a long and distinguished career. Lee. 540 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Thanks for us. I'm good, man, 541 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you guys doing doing great? So 542 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: you've you've announced your retirement. You're a couple of weeks in. 543 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Has it has anything been different now already or are 544 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: you just kind of still healing up, kind of getting 545 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: settled after the after a long hard season. Yeah, man, 546 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: you know I've tried to lean on as many of 547 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: my former guys that walked away as I possibly could 548 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: and just picked their brains and try to figure out, 549 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, what land mines I needed to avoid as 550 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: I transition out here. And I sure won't miss the 551 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: off season program. I promise you that. I don't think 552 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: it'll hit me then. But I think once training camp 553 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: starts and the season starts, that's that's going to be 554 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: the biggest landmine right now, with the exception of really 555 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: getting ramped up for some of these things that I'm 556 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: starting off the field to help me with my transition, 557 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: not much as different you know, this year than any 558 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: of the year of my career up to this point. 559 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: But once training camp comes around for the first time 560 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: and you know, of years and I'm not a part 561 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: of it, I think that'll be the time that it 562 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: really hits me and I need to make sure I'm prepared. Yeah. Well, 563 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean it looks like you've got you've laid some 564 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: of that groundwork already. Uh you know, you've got triple 565 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: athlete sports training, you know, firing up here in Nashville, right, So, 566 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a I mean, that's just something 567 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be able to pour everything into now 568 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: going forward, So maybe just tell us a little bit 569 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: about that and where things stand in terms of that 570 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: getting that up and off the ground. Yeah, I'm over 571 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: in Knoxville. Dawson's in Nashville, Dawson. I'm just I'm just 572 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: the old Knoxville boy. But but yeah, man, uh kind 573 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: of talk to Tasker and you guys last year, and 574 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll never forget Steve said, one plays men as you can, 575 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: and then play one more. I really do, I really 576 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: do feel like this year was the one more. I 577 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: just honestly don't think I can be the teammate and 578 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: leader I've been in man and husband and father and 579 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: all those things if I if I go back at it, Um, yeah, man, 580 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: triple F. It's faith, family football. It's something I'm extremely 581 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: passionate about. I've always truly enjoyed mentoring these young cats 582 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: and helping them kind of understand what it meant to 583 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: be a pro. It'll be a much different, much different 584 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: mentor mentor role now with twelve to eighteen year old 585 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: young men and women. Um, just something that that I 586 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited about. I had a lot of 587 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: adversity and stumbling blocks as a young man, a lot 588 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: of it self inflicted, most of it self inflicted. Um. 589 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: And I just can't wait to be a huge resource 590 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: for some of these young uns and just make sure 591 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: they know that even when they get off the rails, 592 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: there's there's still hope if they try to live on 593 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: on more than they live off of them. And uh, 594 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: and just try to make the world a better place 595 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: here in my little local community. And as you guys know, 596 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm crazy as a road lizard. So uh. And that's 597 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: that's a one liner from Kyle Williams. I'll stole it. 598 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: But um but man, I just I can't wait to 599 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: let people know that it's okay to not be perfect, 600 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: it's okay to make mistakes, but we're gonna try to 601 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: live right most of the time and do a lot 602 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: of cool stuff, build a lot of good memories with 603 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: these kiddos down here. Well, you came into the league 604 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: and you had this long career where you were kind 605 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: of a nuts and bolts kind of player, and most 606 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: of particularly here in Buffalo, and they didn't make any 607 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: any bones about it. You had a role, certainly in 608 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: the offense, but you were here because you were a 609 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: guy who mentored young players. Guys like Dawson Knox, Tommy Sweeney, 610 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: and you did the same thing with Kyle Pitts in Atlanta, 611 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: and now you're gonna do this with young kids as 612 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: as your thing. What is say, give us one or 613 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: two or a handful of the things you you got 614 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: to start with. What are the foundational things that you're 615 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk to these young men about to further their career, 616 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: not just on the field, but as men. You know, 617 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: the first thing I want to do is build the 618 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: the the coolest athletic environment for young kids in this area. 619 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to feel like pro football and I want 620 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: to you know, only such a few number of us 621 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: get to really see what pro football feels like in 622 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: that atmosphere and that brotherhood and the eliteness of it. 623 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: And I want to I want to have a place 624 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: that all that everybody wants to be. Until I make 625 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: that happen, I'm not gonna be a mentoring anybody. Um. 626 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: So once once I can get all these these young 627 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: kids in the door and and prove to the parents 628 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: down here that I really am doing something different, that's 629 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: really special. Uh, It's just it's gonna be exactly that 630 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: Steve's man like once again. I was a very self 631 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: destructive kid that decided to take the wrong fork more 632 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: than the right fork. And I just want to be 633 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: someone that is available to these kids when I can 634 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: tell they're they're continuously taking the wrong fork. And just 635 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: to say that, you know, Jesus and strong men and 636 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: and this little you know, safe place of athletics can 637 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: truly change your life if if you just lean on 638 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: the good men around you. And it's not just gonna 639 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: be me. I'm gonna have a whole staff of great 640 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: men that love God, love. These kids love sports, not 641 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: only football but all sports, but mostly man. Just because 642 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: you get off the rails doesn't mean you got to 643 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: live off of them all the time. You uh, look 644 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: at Felician, Oh my goodness. Um, but uh, but you 645 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: don't have to live off the rails all the time. 646 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: And you can. You can make mistakes and get right 647 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: back on them. And it's it's such a different world 648 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: than than when you and Jim were running around. All 649 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: it takes is one snatch shot with a with a 650 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: camera and uh and somebody taking a video of you 651 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: for these young kids to to kind of be off 652 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: the rails so bad that it's hard to recover. I'm 653 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: sure glad there were no camera phones when I was 654 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: coming up. So that's gonna be my deal for all 655 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: these kiddos. Yeah, well, we're talking about a lot of 656 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: your old teammates. We got one here who just wanted 657 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: to pop in on a surprise Hello. So Scott, take 658 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: it away. Hey buddy, how are we doing. Congrats on 659 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: an awesome career. It's happy to be able to spend 660 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: some time with you there in Buffalo. They were great years, absolutely, buddy, 661 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: year I put, I put. Scott was on the group 662 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 1: text of all the veterans. Hey, man, thanks for teaching 663 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: me how to be a pro, showing me the ropes. 664 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: I spent more time with Stott in my first four 665 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: years than anybody else in the league. So a lot 666 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: of it has to do with him. He's obviously at 667 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: his swinky ass place in Iowa. Look at that scenery, 668 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: short sleeve weather here. It's almost fifty degrees here today. 669 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: This is beautiful. It's short sleeves. I'm getting the tan today. 670 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Knows I appreciate it. Brother. 671 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: It's good to see your face. Yeah. So Scott Chandler 672 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: joining us here, former Bill set end as well, and 673 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to relay a funny story, at least the 674 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: only one that I have that involves both of these guys. 675 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: So I'm watching practice, I think it's before the season's 676 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: ub training camp practice, and Lee's running a shorter pattern 677 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: than Scott is in the passing game. I know that 678 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: might be a shock to some people. And the Lee 679 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: takes the check down and turns up field to run 680 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: up the sideline, and Scott, uh, you know, doing the 681 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: right thing on the play, He's looking to block down 682 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: field on Lee's behalf, and so Scott's block takes him 683 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: to the same sideline that Lee is running and Lee 684 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: nearly runs him over at like a you know, like 685 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: a bulldozer. And so the play ends, and Scott looks 686 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: back at Lee and says, why didn't you cut? Like 687 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm blocking this guy out of bounds to the sideline, 688 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: why didn't you cut off my block? And Lee simply 689 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: looks at Scott and says, I don't cut you guys 690 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: probably don't remembering. My favorite thing Lee set up was 691 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: my favorite fine that he set up in our room 692 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: was if you have to get if you have to 693 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: have people come out on the field to help you 694 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: get off. It was it was a fine and Lee 695 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: broke his leg, got up and hopped off the field. Uh, 696 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, and then I got I tore my ACL 697 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: and they had to come out to me. And sure 698 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: enough we got back there and I got fined. Doesn't 699 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: matter if you tore your ACL at the end of 700 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: the season. Wow, you're still getting find if they have 701 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: to come get you off. But that's the kind of 702 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: accountability we had in that tight end room. You know. Yeah, 703 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: that's a tough crowd. That is a pretty tough crowd 704 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: at least. So Lee, You've been You've you've made the 705 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: rounds around the league. You're in Buffalo, you were in Oakland, 706 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: you were back in Buffalo, you're in Atlanta. You've You've 707 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: crossed paths with a ton of players coaches. What are 708 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: some of the common denominators of, you know, truly great players, 709 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: truly great friendships, great atmospheres. If you were going to 710 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: be a head coach and an owner, GM asked you, 711 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: what was the foundational thing that you're gonna build your 712 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: program on. What would it be? You know, obviously you 713 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: have to have great players in our line of work, 714 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: it's a production based business, right, Uh, force some balls 715 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: in a row for the Bills had a lot of 716 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, so it's no secret while y'all won 717 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: a lot of games. But you know it's easy to 718 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: collect talent, it's hard to build a team, right. I 719 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: know that the Bucks and Rams and some of these 720 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: teams are are proven that to maybe not be as 721 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: true as I thought, but m NBA is sure proven 722 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: it not be as true as I thought. But at 723 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: the end of the day, man, when when I walk 724 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: into a locker rooms as a freshly fired player from 725 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: the you know, New England Patriots, and I've never played 726 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,479 Speaker 1: it down in the league, I'm scared. I'm not gonna 727 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: build provide for my family. And a guy like Scott 728 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: Chandler welcomes me with open arms the minute I walk 729 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: in the door, and his wife Alyssa becomes family with 730 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: my wife. And nobody was ever happier for any of 731 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: my success than Scott. And when you have a bunch 732 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: of selfless players that understand that we can all get 733 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: our money, we can all get our success, we can 734 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: all get everything we dream of and still truly be 735 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: accountable to each other and wish the best for each 736 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: other and be happy for each other. That's when a 737 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: team becomes really special. So my thing, if I was, 738 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: if I was building the team would be and it's 739 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's Arthur Smith's big thing down in Atlanta. 740 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: As no egos, I don't care if you're going to 741 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame one day like Matt Ryan, or 742 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: if you're the you know, practice squad tight end egos 743 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: or a cancer in the NFL. And and when when 744 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: you have too many of them, it can become a problem, 745 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. One or two's fine. The rest 746 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: of the Scott Chandlers and Lee Smiths as they get older, 747 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: can can kind of keep the team together. But but 748 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: if you got an ego in every room on the 749 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: team as opposed to a veteran leader in every room 750 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: and the team, you're gonna be in trouble. Yeah, and Scott, 751 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: how good did it feel for you to see Lee 752 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: kind of pay it forward in much the same way 753 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: that you did for him as a young player coming up, 754 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: Because when he came here for his second stint, I 755 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: mean he had young guys like Dawson Knox and Tommy 756 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: Sweeney in the room, here and he kind of did 757 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: the same thing you did for him. How gratifying is 758 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: it when you see a guy that you know you 759 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: mentored turns around and does the same thing. Well, you know, 760 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: I think, what what my relationship with League taught me 761 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: as much as I ever taught him. I promise you 762 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: that he you know, he he was a he's an 763 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: old soul and uh, you know he was he was 764 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: able to to really teach me a lot of things 765 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: about uh, you know, growing up in a different environment 766 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: than I grew up in, and empathy towards people, and 767 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: and uh, I really think that, you know, he taught 768 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: me as much as I taught him. And I knew 769 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: that he would go on and be a leader, just 770 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: because by the time he was in his second and 771 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: third year in Buffalo, he was already a leader. Uh 772 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's natural that way. And you know, 773 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see him go and impact a 774 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: bunch of kids' lives in his in his community now. 775 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: And you know, he's he's just a great role model, 776 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: great great guy for for kids to look up to. Yeah, 777 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: and now real quick, because I know, uh, Scott was 778 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: very well received as a legend of the game up 779 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: here this seasonally, Uh, I gotta believe you're on a 780 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: short list, and that might be one of the few 781 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: times will you be allowed to be a crazy man again. 782 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: Your wife will let you be a little bit of 783 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: a crazy man if you can be legend of the 784 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: game to get this crowd fired up for a home 785 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: game sometime. I'll tell you what, man. I went and 786 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: watched my son's eighth grade basketball kind of championship game 787 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: the other day, and you know, I said on the 788 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: interview a few weeks ago, watching that Bill's Chiefs game, 789 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: I finally realized why these crans, these fans are so crazy. 790 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: It's just the helpless feeling of having no control. There's 791 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: something invigorating about that man, my son, my son's little buddy. 792 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: Who they're They're the point guard and the big man 793 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: on the basketball team. He crossed the dude over and 794 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: just hammered a three ball. And I haven't been that 795 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 1: excited or that emotional. And fifteen years yeah, and uh, 796 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: you know, playing in the AFC Championship Game a couple 797 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: of years ago with the Bills, that was a awesome 798 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: ride there trying to get the Super Bowl and we 799 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: we we overachieved this year in Atlanta in my opinion. 800 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy we won seven games. You know. 801 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: It was just the leadership and a kind of a 802 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: young team and Cap Hill and all that stuff. Just 803 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: the group of men that we were able to bring 804 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: together and have that cool bond down in Atlanta was 805 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of fun with Arthur's leadership. But um, 806 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: but even through all those moments that you know, fourteen 807 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: year old young kid hitting that three in a big 808 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: game was just unbelievable. It was just unbelievable to rush 809 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: that went through my body. To be honest, I'm always 810 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: when I was when I was playing all these years. 811 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: I just sat in the stands and didn't say a word. 812 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: But I know I'm gonna embraced this non player deal 813 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: and it's just the coolest thing ever. So I'll come 814 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: up there. Maybe I'll bring Tennessee moonshine with me one 815 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: last time with me, and uh, we'll have a good time. Smith, 816 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: Scott Chandler, you guys are great. Thanks for coming on 817 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: and giving us a minute of your time. It's great 818 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: to see you guys. Hope we see it back in 819 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo in the near future. Thanks guys, love love you. 820 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: Bro tell us, I said, what's up all man, see y'all, 821 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, Yeah you got it. That's Lee Smith and 822 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: Scott Chandler, a surprise guest joining us to wish Lee 823 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: Smith well in his retirement. And I'm telling you right now, 824 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: you want a guy to get a crowd fired up, 825 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: Jeremy Kelly better get on the horn and put him 826 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: on his shortlist for next season. You want to get 827 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: people amped up. That guy can get loud in a hurry. Yeah, 828 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: and uh he'll be He'll have him froth in at 829 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: the mouth. He'd be perfect for that role because Scott 830 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: did a good job when he was in here doing it. 831 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: And uh, Lee Man, I mean I remember him the 832 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: first time he was here. He was a wild man. 833 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, he said, if it wasn't for his wife, 834 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: he'd be somewhere in a gutter now, he said, his 835 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: wife basically, you know, put the bridle on him and 836 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: reined him in, thankfully. So heck of a dude. Both 837 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: guys really cool guys. And those were fun teams, you know, 838 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: the Chan Gailey teams. They you know, they had a 839 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: tough time getting into the playoffs. Too, but they were 840 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: entertaining and fun. It's like, you know, it's the world 841 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: we lived in back then, in the in the latter 842 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: years of the drought, where you know, we had had 843 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: moments and they were fleeting, and those guys were part 844 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: of some of the moments that made you feel like, 845 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: you know what, I am gonna cheer for this team. 846 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Well, I think of the 847 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: season will be grateful for those Think of the season 848 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,959 Speaker 1: opener in twenty eleven. They go out to Kansas City, 849 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: chan Gailey second year on the job, and they beat 850 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: the Chief forty one to seven. Scott Chandler are two 851 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: touchdowns in that game. Those are the first two touchdown 852 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: receptions of his career. It was like his fourth year 853 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: in the league, and guys like him got opportunities here then, 854 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: and I think that's what made that team so fun 855 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: to watch, even though unfortunately they couldn't get over that 856 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: playoff hump. All Right, we gotta take a break, but 857 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: when we come back, we've got an interesting tidbit that 858 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 1: we happened to notice watching some of the Olympics coverage 859 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 1: the other night. This is not something you always see. 860 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: It didn't seem right to me. I checked it out, 861 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: it was confirmed, and Steves thinks it's just as bizarre 862 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: as I do. We'll tell you what we're talking about next. 863 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: First thing here on One Bills Live presented by Kelade elve. 864 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: That's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here on one 865 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Good conversation there with Leady Smith congratulating him 866 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: on his retirement. Scott Chandler joined in former Bill's tight end. 867 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: So that was cool conversation there. We wanted to change 868 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: gears here a little bit because Steve and I have 869 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: taken in some of the Olympics coverage out there in 870 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: Beijing the last couple of nights, and so I'm I'm 871 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: watching the freestyle snowboarding where they go down you know, 872 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: they go down a ramp just like a ski jump, 873 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: and they've got a series of jumps, three or three 874 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: or four jumps. It's they do their tricks. They get 875 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: to the end and they get you know, there's a 876 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 1: couple of ramps. The one is there's a big, big 877 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: air ramp that there's another one where they've got a 878 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: series of freestyle ramps come down like rails and stuff. 879 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: So I'm watching the coverage they bump back from commercial 880 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: break and they're you know, they've got one of those 881 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: overlook scenic shots, and you know you see the ramp 882 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: on the left side of the screen and then almost 883 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 1: seemingly immediately behind it, like I'm looking at it trying 884 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: to establish the distance, and it's no more than five 885 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: hundred yards behind the ramp. There's nuclear power plants silos. 886 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: It looks like they it looked like it leaning up 887 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: against it. And I saw it on first time I 888 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: saw it. I saw I was like, I was like, 889 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: I looked at my wife, I said, is that a 890 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 1: nuclear power plant? I think it is. It is right 891 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: next to it. They built the facility right next to 892 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: the nuclear power plant and right next to the ramp, 893 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: and right next the three of is the like the 894 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: cooling lake of I was just like, right next How 895 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: did the IOC sign off on that? And I mean 896 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: that's what the International Olympic Committee does. They go to 897 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: the side, Okay, where are you gonna build this? Where 898 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 1: are you gonna hold this event? And they do site 899 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: surveys like this is a common practice by the IOC. 900 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how you missed the nuclear power plant. 901 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: They put it right and you look at where they 902 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: put it where though temperature was going to be what 903 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 1: they needed for the event, and then they just put snow, 904 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: you know, the snowmakers like they do here in Western 905 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: New York. They mount snowmakers, can't. I mean, there's just 906 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: like and they got the sign the Olympic logo on 907 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: one of the stack, one of the silos. So when 908 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 1: they picked the guy, when they picked the jumper coming 909 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: off the jump, it's it's just big pan aamic and 910 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: the background the twenty the Beijing twenty twenty two Olympic 911 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: rings are on the side of a nuclear reactor cooling stack. Yeah, 912 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: I mean I was like, I was like, that's the 913 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: first really, And I'm saying to myself the whole time, 914 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: if I've got a kid in the Olympics. You know 915 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot of these Olympians they don't have their families 916 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 1: with him because of all the COVID restrictions, they did 917 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: not travel to the event. A lot of them are 918 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 1: watching at home. We've seen the split screens that NBC 919 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: has done showing families at home while their kids participating. 920 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: If I'm seeing my kid going down this ramp and 921 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: spending the better part of the next three or four days, 922 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: five hundred yards from a nucle I'm a little uneasy, right, 923 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm a little uneasy about that. Am I wrong to think? 924 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how easy uneasy to 925 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 1: be in the first place to sending them to Beijing. 926 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: But but it's not. You picture the Winter Olympics, like, go, 927 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: let's go to the Winter Olympics this year in Aspen, 928 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: right or Valey. And they go up and it's the 929 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: mountains and all these venue trees hereby the trees and 930 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: the mountains, and you see the downhill over here and 931 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: over Here's now they've gotten to the point. Now with 932 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: all that, with the technology and their ability to do it, 933 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: and the and the cities that are getting the Olympics. 934 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: Make snow. They just build it, make the snow, and 935 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: they build these things like the speed skating is like 936 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: eight kilometers from the village, and the and the jumps 937 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: are like twenty five kilometers over here. It's all spread out. 938 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: They've got three different Olympic villages and they house the 939 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 1: athletes that are in closest proximity to the venues where 940 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: they have to compete. Three different Olympic village. So that's different. 941 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: And and in winter Olympics there's only there's not that 942 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: many athletes, not as many for sure. Way it's like 943 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: it's like thirty percent of the of the summer game. 944 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: So the Olympic villages have got to be really tiny. 945 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: And you saw it the only snow in that in 946 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: the entire shot there the whole landscape of the countryside. 947 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: It's it's a city with a nuclear reactor and a 948 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: white hill. All I'm gonna say man made hill is 949 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: you're you don't have to worry about keeping your phone charge. 950 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: That Olympic village. Oh my gosh, that's by the plant 951 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 1: right down the streets, I know. So it's I saw 952 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: that and I was I was fascinating. Now, I I'm 953 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: you just don't expect it. I've been watching it for 954 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: a couple of days. I watched them over the weekend. 955 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: And because when you're out to dinner, we were out 956 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: to dinner every you know, every meal, because we were 957 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: for a family event, and everybody's got the Olympics on 958 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: because they're constant, you know. And I was like, it 959 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: was like tappening. I can look at this. It's got 960 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: is that a I did a double take. I was like, 961 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: is that what I think it is? So it must 962 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,919 Speaker 1: be it must be the Olympic. The Chinese government saying, 963 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna let people know that we've 964 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: got you know, a lot of techno technology and on 965 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 1: what what whatever whatever, because they've got a sign off that, right, 966 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 1: I mean you could put that thing anywhere that that's 967 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 1: where they chose to put it literally literally and the 968 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: Chinese government would put it anywhere. Well, right, they made that. 969 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: That was a choice. Yeah. Power and strength, I think 970 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,439 Speaker 1: is what they're That is not by accident at all, 971 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: no question about it, right, no question do they do? 972 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 1: They misunderstand the Western perception of what that looks like. 973 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 1: Does look like putting your kids like like like through 974 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: the losers of the competition. It's about like, like I've 975 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: seen this. It's like the parent who's complaining about the 976 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: street work and the sound and the noises making because 977 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: his wife, his wife's pregnant. She's standing there with a 978 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: cigarette in her hand. Right, oh man, that's what it's 979 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: like a right the Chinese they that's the perception, right, 980 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: It's it certainly was unexpected. When I saw it on TV. 981 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. When I saw that, just being 982 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: in such close proximity to the actual plant, it was oh, 983 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: it's I mean, we had we had to bring it up. 984 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: It struck me as odd. That's got to be our 985 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: Western perception because that maybe the Chinese perception would be 986 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: one like they well, they would argue it's clean energy, 987 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: you know, clean energy. So all right, that's we had 988 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: to cover it in some capacity. I'm glad we did. Yeah, 989 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: we take a break because coming up next, Eric Wood, 990 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: who was going to tell us all about Aaron Cromer 991 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: Buffalo was new offensive line coach, coming back for his 992 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: second stint here in Buffalo. Eric Wood played under him 993 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: for the two seasons he was here. He'll tell us 994 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: all about Cromer. Next here on one Bill's Live, stay 995 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: tuned at a Steve Tasker who has been all over 996 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 1: the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of a 997 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're 998 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: not even in the stragedyer of normalcy. Alright, hour number 999 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you, 1000 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,439 Speaker 1: And as we mentioned the first hour of the show, 1001 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: the Bills have a new offensive line coach, by the 1002 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 1: name of Aaron Cromer, but it's not his first time 1003 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. He was here back during the twenty 1004 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty sixteen seasons and centering that offensive line was 1005 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 1: the man who's joining us now, it's one Eric Wood 1006 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: who's going to give us the inside scoop on the 1007 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: kind of coach that Aaron Kromer is. So, first of all, 1008 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: thanks Eric for joining us. Second, how would you best 1009 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: describe Aaron Kromer as an offensive line coach? Well, I 1010 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: would say his strength is probably his ability to teach 1011 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 1: technique and to teach that to different body types and 1012 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: give you different tools at your disposal. He's very experienced. 1013 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: He's got experienced under Howard mud under Bill Callahan in 1014 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: many circles, those are two of the better line coaches 1015 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: in history. He's taken techniques from each of them, and 1016 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: then he is a just a roleodex of things that 1017 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: he could teach you. And for me as a player, 1018 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 1: I felt like this took my game to the next 1019 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: level because throughout the first part of my career it 1020 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of you know, our o line coaches 1021 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: were excellent, but they would ban the group together and 1022 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: it's go. We're gonna go physically dominate these guys, and 1023 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: Cromer has some of that in them in him, but 1024 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,439 Speaker 1: a lot of it is technique with him. And so 1025 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 1: I've already texted a few of the guys in Buffalo 1026 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 1: and let them know that Aaron Cromer is a guy 1027 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: that I have a lot of faith in. He's a 1028 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: guy that took my game to a new level and 1029 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: I think he'll do an excellent job with this group. 1030 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: And when he comes in, we don't know what this 1031 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 1: group is gonna look like. There's a couple of guys 1032 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: who are gonna be here and gonna be there. You 1033 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: talk about how fast it has to come together, I 1034 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: mean when these guys get together and then what it's 1035 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna be in like another two months or three months, 1036 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: two and a half months before they come in for OTAs, 1037 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: just after the draft and all of that, How fast 1038 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: will these guys start to You know, it's gonna be 1039 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: like coming to a new team almost for some of them, 1040 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: with new faces, new coach, all of that. Yeah, there's 1041 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a new guy running the offensive room for 1042 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: the first time in a while. With Brian Dayball departing 1043 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: for the Giants. For these offensive linemen, in particular, they'll 1044 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: have a new guy running their offensive line group. This 1045 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 1: group was used to Bobby Johnson, And as much as 1046 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 1: I'm praising Aaron Cromer, I thought Bobby Johnson was a 1047 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: great offensive line coach for the Bills, and he was 1048 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: great under my time under him when he was a 1049 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo prior. So that being said, I would assume that 1050 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the terminology stays the same. Ken Dorsey's 1051 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: been in this in this system for a few years, 1052 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: I would assume that he kind of just picks up 1053 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: where they left off. A lot of it will look 1054 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 1: the same. I think a lot of the terminology will 1055 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: be the same because you have so many returning faces 1056 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 1: on offense. As far as the players go, you want 1057 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: to make it as easy as you possibly can on them. 1058 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: And then as far as chrome coming in, they may 1059 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: have some new terminology with their techniques, with their calls 1060 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, which sometimes isn't a bad thing. 1061 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, when you've played in the same scheme and 1062 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: you're playing against divisional opponents twice a year, they hear 1063 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: your calls. At times, they can get a beat on 1064 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Sometimes having some different calls and some 1065 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: different terminology at the line of scrimmage especially can be 1066 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: valuable for you. Maybe explain for the layman, Eric, when 1067 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: you have a new offensive line coach coming in and 1068 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,240 Speaker 1: the scheme, as you mentioned, is expected to stay relatively 1069 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 1: the same, what is the process by which that new 1070 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: old line coach incorporates those techniques that he teaches to 1071 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: this scheme he is now inheriting. That's a great question, 1072 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 1: and it kind of depends on who it is. When 1073 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: you hire an Aaron Cromer, you're hiring him because of 1074 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: his experience and you think he could bring something to 1075 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: the table. He is a from my understanding, he was 1076 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,439 Speaker 1: pretty sought after. There were some other options out there 1077 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: for him. And when you bring in an Aaron Cromer, 1078 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, we want you to teach what you do. 1079 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: And now Ken Dorsey is a first time play caller. 1080 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: He may be aided in the fact that Kromer has 1081 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: called plays before, he's scripted an offense before, and so 1082 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: he could be an asset for Ken Dorsey. But when 1083 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: you ask specifically about the techniques, Cromer's gonna watch what 1084 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: these guys did on film last year, and assuming that 1085 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: most of the plays are similar, he's gonna see what 1086 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: worked and didn't work, and he's gonna try and give 1087 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,439 Speaker 1: him some answers for maybe some things that didn't work. 1088 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: And what do you look for is and there's this 1089 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: big thing now where you got Aaron Kromer coming in. 1090 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: He's been you know, he's a run game coordinator. This 1091 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: is going to change the philosophy. It's gonna you know 1092 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,479 Speaker 1: what I mean, and our take on it has been listening. 1093 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: This is just if they can get a running game 1094 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: that shows up before it did, you know, a month 1095 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: and a half. Maybe it gives the Bills a chance too. 1096 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: They're still gonna be a throwing football team, but maybe 1097 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: it gives the Bills a chance to beat some teams 1098 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: left handed. If they can't protect Josh in one game 1099 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 1: like the Pittsburgh game or the Jacksonville game where they 1100 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: hung up six points and ten points respectively, maybe gives 1101 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: him a chance to score more points in a game 1102 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: where they're passing attack has been stifled for some reason 1103 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: or other. Yeah, I mean, Cromer was a big reason 1104 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: that we led the league in rushing in twenty fifteen. 1105 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: And twenty sixteen he goes to LA after the entire 1106 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: staff was let go and they were successful in running 1107 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: the football under Sean McVeagh, and to my knowledge, that 1108 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 1: was his first time in a Shanahan style offense. I'm 1109 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: sure he has some wrinkles that he can suggest, but 1110 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,959 Speaker 1: they're gonna look at this group. In that last maybe 1111 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: six or seven games, Devin Singletary was so effective running 1112 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: the ball, and a lot of it was toss crack schemes, 1113 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of them were pinning pools, and then you 1114 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: had the element of the read option. That's where he 1115 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: was most effective. And so Cromer's going to look at that. 1116 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's going to look at that, and everybody on 1117 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: that offensive staff is going to come together to kind 1118 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: of aid Ken Dorsey in this transition. But ultimately it's 1119 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's offense. It is not Aaron Cromer's offense. Would 1120 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 1: you look at this twenty twenty two Bill's offense and 1121 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: would be judged by Ken Dorsey. So for those out 1122 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: there that think, well now that we hired Aaron Cromer, 1123 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: now the Bills are going to run the football more 1124 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a fifty fifty split, something we 1125 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: were used to seeing prior to maybe twenty nineteen. Well, 1126 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: that is not going to be the case. This Bill's offense. 1127 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 1: The strength of it is Josh Allen, is that receiving pard, 1128 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: that tight end they got in Dawson Knox who became 1129 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: a weapon in twenty twenty one. They are going to 1130 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: utilize those weapons, right And I think the perfect, the 1131 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: perfect description of maybe ideally what this new offensive staff 1132 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: is after, was seen in the Patriots playoff game, the 1133 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Wildcard playoff. The Bills through for three hundred eight yards, 1134 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: ran for one seventy four and had thirteen first downs, 1135 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: passing fourteen first downs running. That's the ideal formula I 1136 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: think for this new offensive staff coming in, isn't it? Yeah? 1137 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: I would think so. And now something that aided that 1138 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: run game against the Patriots, especially some of those third 1139 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: downs were Josh runs. And I still think when you 1140 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: look at desperation time for the Bills games, that you 1141 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: gotta have crucial third downs. You'll utilize Josh in the 1142 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: run game. But as he gets older, I believe that 1143 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: you'll see less and less runs designed for Josh. Now 1144 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: he'll always have that ability to scramble, but I think 1145 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: you'll see less and less design runs. Actually because Ken 1146 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Dorsey got to take a front row seat for the 1147 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: beating that Cam Newton took in Carolina and understanding that 1148 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: the health issues that that brought on with Cam Newton. 1149 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Put to your point, Brownie, I think that it says 1150 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 1: a lot about Sean mcdermot's comments all throughout kind of 1151 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: that mid part of the year and then what the 1152 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 1: offense ended up looking like when he wanted more balance. 1153 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: And balance in the NFL isn't necessarily a fifty fifty split. 1154 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: It's being able to run the football effectively so that 1155 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: your play action, which the Bills run as much play 1156 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: action as anybody in the league. I expect that to continue. 1157 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: But you've got to be able to run the football effectively, 1158 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: especially with your running back, to get those linebackers to 1159 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: suck up towards the line of scrimmage. Do you think 1160 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: there's a prevailing attitude among coaches not just to be 1161 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: here with Buffalo and Josh Allen, but also with anybody, 1162 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: particularly in the AFC, who's got a Justin Herbert at 1163 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, a Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow. I mean Pat Mahomes. Okay, 1164 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: these guys, they're all athletic, they can all run. But 1165 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: we're not going to be coaching too long if they're 1166 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 1: not playing quarterback for us. Right, So they've got this 1167 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: asset that they've got to be good stewards of and 1168 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: make sure the guy lasts, right. I mean, so as 1169 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you got this game, you gotta win. 1170 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,439 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna use your guy up all out 1171 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: Cam Newton in Carolina, you've got to you've got to 1172 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: come up with ways to take the load off of him. 1173 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: And the running game would be the perfect candidate for that. Yeah. 1174 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 1: I think it's the run game. I think it's that 1175 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 1: quick passing game to the outside which your extended handoffs. 1176 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: And you know, early in Josh's career, we saw a 1177 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: lot more design runs because they were trying to win games, 1178 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: and Josh wasn't as polished of a pocket quarterback as 1179 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 1: he is now. Now that he's developed into the passer 1180 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: and decision maker that he's become. Now, you don't have 1181 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: to use him as much in the run game now 1182 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 1: with his athleticism. If he even fakes like he's gonna 1183 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: keep the ball, he's got to keep defenders honest, especially 1184 01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: when he's in the shotgun and he can run that 1185 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 1: read option. He could just steal twenty thirty yards so fast, 1186 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 1: which heck, that's that's fob to ten percent of a 1187 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 1: lot of team's output in a game. Yeah, we know that. 1188 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Coach McDermott several times during the chorus of last season 1189 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: said that his guys in the trenches had to be 1190 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 1: more physical. I think they did a better job of 1191 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: embodying that over the final month of the season in 1192 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I would you know, having been there in 1193 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, I would argue that you 1194 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: guys were pretty physical offensive front under Cromer. Where does 1195 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: he come down? I mean you touched on a little 1196 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: bit earlier, Eric, but where does he kind of come 1197 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: down in that part of the game For this group 1198 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: going forward, you think you know, I'll say this, I 1199 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of our physicality in twenty fifteen twenty 1200 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 1: sixteen came from the personnel of the group. It's hard 1201 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: to coach physicality on a down to down basis. You 1202 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: can get your group as rite up as you want 1203 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 1: throughout the weekend, on the sideline, midway through a drive. 1204 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: You kind of fall back on your training and if 1205 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 1: you're a physical type person, if that's your personality, then 1206 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 1: you're going to play more physical. And I'm not saying 1207 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the guys who are playing at the midpoint of the 1208 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: year weren't playing physical. They're not physical people. I just 1209 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 1: think as you settled in to your group at the 1210 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: end of the season, that group was playing physical. Spencer Brown, 1211 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 1: when you watch him play football, I don't want to 1212 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: say he reminds me of myself, but I would have 1213 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: liked if I played like that as a rookie. I 1214 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: would hope people would say, man, that's the type of 1215 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 1: guy that I can build around. And no, it's not perfect, 1216 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 1: but that guy finishes every single play. Dean Dawkins was 1217 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 1: like that early in his career. Those are two physical tackles. 1218 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Bates came in there and played a physical brand 1219 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: of ball. I'd say Mitch Morse, his strength is his 1220 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: athleticism and how smart he is. That's not a knock 1221 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: on him. That's his strength, but he can also be 1222 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,919 Speaker 1: a physical blocker, especially when you get him on the move. 1223 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,439 Speaker 1: He's outstanding pulling. And then Darryl Williams at right guard 1224 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 1: he's more of a natural tackle. He's long. But man, 1225 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: you can play physical at times too. So when you 1226 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: settle into a group. Then in the Bills, finally settling 1227 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: with a group, that's when they started to see that physicality. 1228 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,439 Speaker 1: But you know, and Brownie one more thing on that. 1229 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: When you know you're gonna run the football more, the 1230 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: physicality comes out a little bit in the offensive line. 1231 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: It's I always heard that pass pro is not passive, 1232 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Like we're trying to shock the defenders. If you got 1233 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: a guy stood up, we want to wipe him out. 1234 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 1: If he jumped for a pass, you want to slam him. Like. 1235 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 1: Pass pro does not have to be passive. But when 1236 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: you're retreating each play, it's hard to be a physical 1237 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,919 Speaker 1: old line or be known as a physical offensive line. 1238 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 1: So if all these things happen and Cromer comes in 1239 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: and they formulate this offensive line into the kind of 1240 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: thing we're looking at, what will that to you? And 1241 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: a casual fan of the Bills, fan who doesn't study film, 1242 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, what's it gonna look 1243 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: like differently, if at all, than it did this year 1244 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: or last year for a casual fan. If the personnel 1245 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: stays the same, It'll look very similar, you know, because 1246 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: this Bill's offensive line. I went to bat form a 1247 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 1: week in a week out, and it was tough with 1248 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: all the rotations and all that. And I'm not saying 1249 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: they were perfect this year. I'm just saying, as a 1250 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Bills fan, sometimes you can get really locked in on 1251 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: some things we're doing and not look around the NFL 1252 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 1: and see that there's a there's a lack of talented 1253 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 1: offensive linemen across the league, especially as the season goes 1254 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: on and guys start to get dinged up. Some of 1255 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 1: these players that are hopping in there putting out some 1256 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 1: embarrassing film. That being said, you know, I'm trying to 1257 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: think you might see a little bit more jump setting 1258 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 1: from the tackles to get fans maybe some to look 1259 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: for early on in the season, maybe the preseason. If 1260 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: he gets a tackle, let me say this without cursing, 1261 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: who's a little light in the butt? Then who doesn't 1262 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: have a strong anchor, he'll jump set A guy with 1263 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Cromer, he will try and get his hands on 1264 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: him as quickly as possible so that you stopped his momentum. Well, 1265 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot of things that the Bills were doing these 1266 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 1: last couple of years in past protection. Now you're so 1267 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 1: half the field you have to scow back so that 1268 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: you can sort it out. I think you'll see a 1269 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: little bit more jump setting with the Bills offensive line, 1270 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 1: which can mean two things. One, it can give Josh 1271 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: a much firmer pocket where guys aren't in his lap. 1272 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: But if you get beat on a jump set, that 1273 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: guy's coming quickly at Josh Allen. And I will say this, 1274 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to think maybe Lamar Jackson, But for 1275 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 1: pocket presents and making single defenders miss in the pocket, 1276 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: I have not seen anybody better over the last five 1277 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 1: years in Josh Allen. Eric, thanks for spelling it out 1278 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 1: for us and giving us the four one one on 1279 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 1: what we can expect from the Bill's new O line coach. 1280 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 1: We appreciate it absolutely my pleasure. Guys. All right, that's 1281 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Eric Wood joining us here on one Bill's Live, telling 1282 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: us all about Aaron Cromer, having worked with him on 1283 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 1: a daily basis for the better part of two calendar 1284 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: years when the Bills, oh by the way, led the 1285 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: league in rushing hundred and fifty two yards per game 1286 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: average four point seven eight yards per carrying twenty fifteen, 1287 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: and then in twenty sixteen led the league in rushing 1288 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 1: again one hundred and sixty four point four yards rushing 1289 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 1: average five point three five yards per carry. That's with 1290 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor as a running quarterback as well. That always 1291 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: helps the numbers and Shady obviously, So yeah, it's you know, 1292 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 1: it's I think if they can make their run game 1293 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:25,719 Speaker 1: even more effective, more consistently strong, it's better for the offense. 1294 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: It just is. Yeah, if they Yeah, absolutely, there's no 1295 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 1: reason except for the you know, the great experiences we've 1296 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 1: had in the last two years of watching the watching 1297 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 1: the Bills go in twenty twenty and the pandemic year, 1298 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 1: going to the AFC Championship game, and then watch them 1299 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 1: finish the year and go through the year where Josh 1300 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: was virtually the exact same guy in twenty twenty one. 1301 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 1: How fun that has all been. But it'll be interesting 1302 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: to see. And this is what their goal is, you 1303 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 1: know this, Brownie. The goal is to get them better, 1304 01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 1: not just to be as good as they were last 1305 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: but to get better. And one of the real ways 1306 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 1: they can do that, particularly if they get their wide 1307 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 1: receiving room the way they want it because they got 1308 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, they've got some issues there, Isaiah McKenzie. They got, 1309 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,799 Speaker 1: you know, some guys. The running game is a really 1310 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: great starting point, and you can bet that that's what's 1311 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 1: gonna help Josh and everybody else play better in the 1312 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: passing game is a running game that they can depend 1313 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 1: on throughout the year, not just kind of hope it 1314 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: emerges out of something or other. Now, on this show, Steve, 1315 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 1: we are we are not ones to claim to know 1316 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 1: everything and anything about football or anything else for that matter, 1317 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:42,560 Speaker 1: So when we are wrong, we call ourselves out. Okay, 1318 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: and our fine listening audience has brought it to our 1319 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,640 Speaker 1: attention that the silos behind the ski jump at the 1320 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Olympics are actually not a nuclear power plant. So apparently 1321 01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: it's the former site of steel and iron mill that 1322 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:06,840 Speaker 1: are no longer being used in that capacity as part 1323 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 1: of a revitalization project. The silos now house office space, 1324 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: snowmaking gear, restaurants, museums, and even a wedding venue. So 1325 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: thanks to our listener Matt for setting us straight on that. 1326 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 1: That's a relief to me anyway, because it was a 1327 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 1: steel mill. That's that doesn't look that doesn't look like 1328 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 1: a steel mill, not the steel mills we remember, right, 1329 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,919 Speaker 1: So that fine, that's good. That's good. So that's they repurpose. 1330 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm glad we were wrong. Right, they repurposed the world's 1331 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 1: largest steel meal into stuff. Yeah. I guess back in 1332 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 1: two thy ten there was so much waste and pollution 1333 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 1: being produced by that steel mill, because it's the largest 1334 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 1: one in China. I believe they said, right, well, we 1335 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 1: either got to just shut it down and raise it 1336 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 1: or use it for something else. So they cleaned it 1337 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: up and used it for someone something else. So good on, 1338 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 1: good on the Chinese government are doing right Now it's 1339 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 1: a gathering place, you know, for offices, restaurants. Now it's 1340 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: the site of an Olympic venue, so go figure kind 1341 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: of cool. Hey, look there you go. I'll up to it. 1342 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: That explains putting a sign on it and showing it. 1343 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 1: That's right. Still, it was a weird. Look, I got 1344 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 1: a problem, so I was taking it back. Problem solved. 1345 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 1: I feel Let me just say this, I feel better, 1346 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 1: I do I feel bad. I feel better. It's one 1347 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,680 Speaker 1: of the one of the instances where I'm glad I 1348 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 1: was incorrect in describing what we were looking at. It. 1349 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 1: I am glad that somebody took it upon themselves. I 1350 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,599 Speaker 1: believe it's a lot healthier social media coming through in 1351 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 1: its most positive way. Ever, how about it unlikely things 1352 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: for five hundred acts. That's right, that's where we were. 1353 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 1: Are you amazed by what some of these athletes can 1354 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 1: do in the air on a snowboard or on skis? 1355 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 1: Because I'm just gonna say this, Steve, I was never 1356 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: a huge fan at any point in my life. Putting 1357 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,640 Speaker 1: my butt over my head for anything, right like that 1358 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,519 Speaker 1: just flies in the face of anything that seems smart. 1359 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah that y'all just leave that alone. But yeah, I 1360 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,760 Speaker 1: same like inverted. I had some no I'll say this, 1361 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: and I you know, I'm I'm an old guy now, 1362 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: but back in the day, I had some gifts. Yeah, 1363 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: you can flips and stuff that's not me, And that's 1364 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: still to me most people, because I can put myself 1365 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 1: even mentally now, even as an old guy, back to 1366 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 1: where you were in that that zone where you're competing 1367 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: and you're gonna do something, you just kind of do it. 1368 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how courageous it is to slide 1369 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 1: down the hill and and do the spins and twists 1370 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,719 Speaker 1: and flips and all of that and come and trying 1371 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,800 Speaker 1: to trying to land it. Um. Because you can say 1372 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,719 Speaker 1: what you want about covering a kickoff in the NFL, 1373 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 1: particularly back in the day when it was still kind 1374 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,600 Speaker 1: of dangerous. Um, that's a different It's a courage that 1375 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: you have to come up with to compete at these 1376 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: Like these people, these are young kids. I mean, they're 1377 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,840 Speaker 1: teenagers some of them, in the early twenty of most 1378 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 1: of them. And you know, I get it, you're young, 1379 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: and you're you know, everybody's every bulletproof, you know who cares. 1380 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,640 Speaker 1: An amazing thing to me is how far some of 1381 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: these freestyle skiing sports, whether it's that half pipe which 1382 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 1: we'll probably see in the coming days, or whether it 1383 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 1: is the freestyle stuff going off of ramps and stuff. 1384 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 1: I mean, in the span of ten fifteen years, we've 1385 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 1: gone from like nine hundreds, which is three full revolutions 1386 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,799 Speaker 1: I believe, or three and a half. Actually it's twelve. 1387 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 1: It's the now they're up to like fourteen forties and 1388 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 1: sixteen twenties. They're doing four and a half revolutions in 1389 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: the air upside down. Yeah, they're what And it's amazing, 1390 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,880 Speaker 1: And you see they're they're coming down from like four 1391 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 1: and a half five stories in the air. They're they're 1392 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 1: going now. And I'll say this backwards. Olympic Committee and 1393 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 1: the Olympics and the people who know this sport have 1394 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 1: built these things as safe as they can so when 1395 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,479 Speaker 1: they the speed they come off with the ground follows 1396 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 1: their arc so that they're never really high in the 1397 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,640 Speaker 1: air because when they come down they're just they're you 1398 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. They build the hills so the 1399 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 1: curvature of it follows the arc of their jump so 1400 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,879 Speaker 1: that when they come down they're not dropping from sixty 1401 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:33,960 Speaker 1: five feet down to it's hard whatever, thirty five feet 1402 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: drop down into a flat surface. They get all of that, 1403 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:42,160 Speaker 1: but man, oh man to go down that hill backwards 1404 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 1: some of them, I like the ones that start backwards, right, 1405 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: they go right to the jump backwards down. Yeah, it's amazing. 1406 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,679 Speaker 1: It really is courageous. And I'll say this too, even 1407 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 1: the figure skaters. And I know some people pooh poo 1408 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 1: the figure skating they do that. This guy a chen 1409 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,799 Speaker 1: oh the quad jumps he drummed. He landed two quads 1410 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 1: in a triple last night and got the highest score 1411 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 1: ever in men's short program. Yeah, and listen, this is 1412 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,599 Speaker 1: one thing I can relate to. I can't do a quad, 1413 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: I can't even do a single. I can't hardly skate, 1414 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,600 Speaker 1: but I know what it is to fall, and there 1415 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 1: are no forgiveness in the ice plus the torque and 1416 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 1: the spins. They don't build the ice in the arc 1417 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 1: of your jump. I know that. And you land, I 1418 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: mean you land wrong with that kind of torque and 1419 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 1: power like you bust an ankles. Second, Oh, you go 1420 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 1: down on the you don't wake up, So it's uh, 1421 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean you're down. That ice is is what it is. 1422 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 1: It is hard as rock, and it's uh the courageous, 1423 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, the ability and the desire to compete like 1424 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 1: these people doing the Olympic. It's been fun to watch 1425 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 1: when they I know this. I was going through a 1426 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: stretch a few days ago where it's like, ah, I 1427 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: don't know, you know. But even so, there's so many 1428 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 1: things there and it's it's a lot of I've I've 1429 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: found myself just like I did in nineteen seventy two 1430 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: when I was ten years old, captivated, just captivated by 1431 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 1: some of the events. And that goes all the way 1432 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 1: from the stuff like this where we're talking about these 1433 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 1: people flying all over the air and curling. Get the 1434 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,679 Speaker 1: brooms man. I'm selling this though. NBC's gotta get somebody 1435 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 1: with it like I used to have in the booth 1436 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 1: and tellustrator. What are you looking at here? And they've 1437 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: got their little sticks and their pointing to this. I go, 1438 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: what are they trying to do? Show me? And they 1439 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 1: got to have the guy that draws the line on 1440 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 1: the on the screen. So he's gonna try and knock 1441 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 1: this here and do this here and curl it in 1442 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 1: like this, draw it for me. I need that. That's 1443 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 1: one thing they're missing in their production. All right, that's 1444 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: one to take to the bank their NBC. Make a 1445 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 1: note of it. We have to take a break here, Steve, 1446 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 1: and I back with more in just a second. Here 1447 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's 1448 01:16:49,720 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, Steve, So we haven't done 1449 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 1: this in a while. It's been a minute since we 1450 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 1: played a little bit of NFL True False, brought to 1451 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 1: you by Yancy's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. So 1452 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 1: it is Super Bowl week, so why not fire up 1453 01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 1: the NFL true false, And we begin with NFL true false. 1454 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,560 Speaker 1: Number one. The only way a team wins a championship 1455 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 1: this year is if it has a defense that is 1456 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 1: actually legit true or false. Say, well, I don't know 1457 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 1: what's legit. That's a good question. I mean, let's define 1458 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 1: our time. Let me. I'm gonna say no, because most 1459 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,600 Speaker 1: of these these teams identities are all wrapped up in 1460 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback, in the and the offense. So yeah, the 1461 01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: defense will make some plays or can make some plays, 1462 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 1: even have a good game, but that's not the reason 1463 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 1: they're gonna win the championship. They rigna win the championship 1464 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,439 Speaker 1: because they got in the game and they got an 1465 01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,639 Speaker 1: actually chance to play in it, and their offense did 1466 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 1: the job form That's that's why. So no, I'm gonna 1467 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 1: say no. Rams are six in the league against the run, 1468 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,600 Speaker 1: fifth in sack percentage, fifteenth and points allowed. Cincinnati this 1469 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 1: season fifth against the run, so both of them are 1470 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 1: top ten run defenses. And then the the Bengals are 1471 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 1: fourteenth in sack percentage and let's see seventeenth and points allowed. Yeah, 1472 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:32,480 Speaker 1: so based on those defenses, yeah they are. Let's face it, 1473 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 1: it's hard to play defense in the NFL. It is, 1474 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's only going to get harder because 1475 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 1: I think more and more the NFL game is going 1476 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 1: to start looking more and more like the college game. 1477 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: And what are the college games? Every week? They're up 1478 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 1: in the thirties and forties routinely, right, And I think 1479 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 1: we're going to see more of that going forward in 1480 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 1: the NFL, which is music to the years of the 1481 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: owners in the league at large. And there's more points 1482 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,719 Speaker 1: means more viewers because it's more highlights and more places 1483 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: where it's going out. Now. The league will fight against 1484 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 1: it a little bit. If they feel like it's getting 1485 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 1: two saw after too much of one thing or the other, 1486 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 1: they'll change it and they'll bring it back, they'll pull 1487 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,280 Speaker 1: it back really bit. But right now you've got an 1488 01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 1: environment in the league where and I'm not gonna I 1489 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 1: do not want to get I'm just generalizing, so I 1490 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 1: don't mean this technic. I'm just gonna say it. It's 1491 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,559 Speaker 1: easier to play quarterback now than it ever has been 1492 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 1: because they're protected. That's why you got quarterbacks running all 1493 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: over the place, and it's accepted, it's accepted practice to 1494 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: slide if you slid back in the seventies and eighties, 1495 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: you still got whacked. They didn't care. They were gonna 1496 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,680 Speaker 1: touch you down with the top of their helmet on 1497 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: your head. So it's easier because the guy you're not 1498 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 1: risking your quarterback by giving him the ball and letting 1499 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 1: him run it. Yeah. So it's and now too, with 1500 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 1: the free releases and the restrictions they have in the secondary, 1501 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are making able to make throws anythink about the 1502 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,519 Speaker 1: Think about the New England game last year, Monday Night 1503 01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: Football in New England. I don't want to get into 1504 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: this big go back back in the day. Josh hits 1505 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 1: Steph Diggs and while he's in the air, he gets 1506 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 1: whacked by the safety, but he doesn't even go off 1507 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 1: his feet because he can't get hit in the head 1508 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: or the defenseless. He comes down and walks into the 1509 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 1: end zone. That's a throw you don't make in other eras. 1510 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 1: So it's easier to play quarterback now than it ever 1511 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:20,960 Speaker 1: has been. And I think when you talk about how 1512 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: the league is going, it's gonna either more of that 1513 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 1: or it's gonna get to the point where it's almost 1514 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 1: repulsively like it's so easy and they're gonna have to 1515 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 1: start get beefing up the ability for teams to play defense. 1516 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:37,439 Speaker 1: I will say false as well, because the quarterbacks have 1517 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 1: been the main drivers of these two teams getting to 1518 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But I will say that the one 1519 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 1: big reason why the Bengals are there too is not 1520 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 1: just you know, the talents of Joe Burrow. The defense 1521 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 1: has gotten hot at the right time for Cincinnati. They 1522 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 1: weren't never a poor defense. They were slightly above average 1523 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 1: defense for much of the year, and then they got 1524 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,800 Speaker 1: hot at the end of the year. And they have 1525 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:09,719 Speaker 1: six takeaways in their three postseason games. Like, they're getting 1526 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 1: turnovers to give the offense more opportunities. They're pressuring the 1527 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 1: opposing quarterback with great success, and it's made a difference. 1528 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Cincinnati gets there if there's defense didn't 1529 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,960 Speaker 1: get hot in the postseason. Right. If turnovers are a thing, 1530 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 1: a predictable thing, then you know, yeah, if you're getting turnovers, 1531 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,439 Speaker 1: your defense is legit. But it's the most unpredictable thing 1532 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,559 Speaker 1: you can ever think of in a defense. You can't 1533 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 1: game plan because if those go away in the Super 1534 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 1: Bowl on Sunday, you lose. The Rams probably winning the game. Yeah, 1535 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 1: but if if neither team, that's the thing, you got 1536 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 1: to match them with no turnovers yourself. Yeah, you know 1537 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 1: that's the way. That's the way that runs. So yeah, 1538 01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: I'll say I'll say false, and I'm saying false too, 1539 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:55,759 Speaker 1: at least for now, NFL true false. Number two coaches 1540 01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 1: relied too much on analytics in making decisions this season. 1541 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,640 Speaker 1: It's an interesting one. I'm gonna say false. I mean, 1542 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,080 Speaker 1: analytics make a lot of sense, and they get into 1543 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 1: some places where you gotta no, I'm saying false. Yeah, 1544 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,920 Speaker 1: analytics are I mean, it's data and it's probabilities. That's 1545 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You're supposed to do that. So 1546 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 1: if you when you get away from that is when 1547 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 1: you get into trouble. And the other thing too, Steve, 1548 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 1: this is a difficult question to answer because we don't 1549 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,320 Speaker 1: know specifically exactly how much each coach on each team 1550 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 1: relied on analytics. We know they did to some degree, 1551 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 1: but too much. How could we think about this? You know, 1552 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 1: when teams get into into problems, so when they get 1553 01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,120 Speaker 1: away from analytics and do stuff that is completely subjective, 1554 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,800 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna challenge that throat, like McVeigh in the 1555 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 1: playoff game of the Niners. Yeah, I mean, what are 1556 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: you doing that's not analytical? And that's where he got 1557 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,840 Speaker 1: into trob That's where almost that's the way they almost 1558 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 1: blew the game. So yeah, I'm gonna say no that 1559 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,880 Speaker 1: they did not. I will say false too too much. 1560 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:07,600 Speaker 1: We do know that the true value of analytics is 1561 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:13,599 Speaker 1: not realized unless it is used in a purposeful way. 1562 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: And even if you can't be predictive with the analytic 1563 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,760 Speaker 1: information you have, because that is the holy grail, and 1564 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,640 Speaker 1: in many cases it's very difficult to find or acquire. 1565 01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 1: You know, predictive analytics is the holy grail, and it's 1566 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 1: very hard to find the information that they have. As 1567 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: long as it's being used in a purposeful way to 1568 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 1: make better decisions in games, coaches will continue to use it. 1569 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,639 Speaker 1: I think they've reached that point now in certain areas 1570 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 1: of football. But to say they're relying too much on 1571 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 1: it to make decisions to the point where they're using 1572 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 1: it in a vacuum, I don't know if we can 1573 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,200 Speaker 1: go that far, So I will say false as well. 1574 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:58,120 Speaker 1: NFL true false Number three. Expansion to a forty team 1575 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: NFL will have actually work forty teams. That's eight more 1576 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 1: than your current like eventually, like in twenty twenty two, 1577 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,960 Speaker 1: twenty two. I mean when I think we're talking about 1578 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 1: like twenty thirty two, twenty thirty five, it won't work now, 1579 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,200 Speaker 1: say no. And I've had conversations at length back in 1580 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 1: the day when Carolina and UH and Jacksonville came in 1581 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:30,240 Speaker 1: the league. The last the last time. Houston is the last, right, well, 1582 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 1: Houston Cleveland, um right. I had conversations at length with 1583 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 1: people that were up in that end of the league, 1584 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 1: and I said, well, you know, what, what are they 1585 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna do. Are they gonna put teams? You know, they're 1586 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna add teams like in London, Berlin, Paris, you know, 1587 01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 1: have a division overseas or whatever, um, a European division, 1588 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 1: right and he there there um their opinion at that time, 1589 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,280 Speaker 1: now this is you know, twenty years ago. Their opinion 1590 01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 1: at that time was this. They were like m hmm. 1591 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 1: I said, well why not. I said, we're having trouble 1592 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:10,280 Speaker 1: now finding enough good players to field thirty two teams, 1593 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,559 Speaker 1: because once you get down below like the first round 1594 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,680 Speaker 1: draft picks, third round draft picks and all that, then 1595 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 1: you'll see stragglers. But there are more players leaving the 1596 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 1: game than they're great players leaving the game than there 1597 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 1: are great players coming in. And the league is filled 1598 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:32,439 Speaker 1: with just guys, you know that hence the three and 1599 01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:36,160 Speaker 1: a half year average career. That means for all the 1600 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,679 Speaker 1: guys like Brady who played twenty years, and Drew Brees 1601 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,519 Speaker 1: and Ben Roethlisberger and Matt Ryan and you know, on 1602 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 1: and on and on, and like Lee Smith we had 1603 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,800 Speaker 1: on the in the ten year guys, there's thirty who 1604 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 1: play one and a half seasons and that's their career 1605 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 1: because they're not good enough to stay, because they're not 1606 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 1: good enough to stay for whatever reason and injuries and 1607 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 1: all that. But so that's so I think forty team, 1608 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't think there's enough layers to do it well. 1609 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,160 Speaker 1: You can always, but you're talking about quality of players. 1610 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,000 Speaker 1: The quantity is there. They would think quality, they would 1611 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 1: think that there would be so many teams that were 1612 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 1: non competitive that wouldn't be worth it, right, And I 1613 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 1: will say false. Also. I mean, we just talked to 1614 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,920 Speaker 1: Eric Wood who was just espousing on the fact that 1615 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 1: NFL teams right now with thirty two clubs, have a 1616 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:29,479 Speaker 1: tough time fielding good quality offensive lines on the field. 1617 01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,280 Speaker 1: Forget about the entire roster, just the offensive lines alone. 1618 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,639 Speaker 1: If you lose one started injury, there's a drop off 1619 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 1: a lot of teams that they can't recover from, and 1620 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:42,439 Speaker 1: so you want to expand it to eight more teams. Now, 1621 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,960 Speaker 1: certain quality of the on field products down precipitously. Certainly 1622 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,960 Speaker 1: there are a worldwide plenty of athletes for forty teams, 1623 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 1: but none of them are trained to play football. You've 1624 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 1: seen how hard it is for European guys in the 1625 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,719 Speaker 1: European pathways to adapt to this game. You know, Christian 1626 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,680 Speaker 1: Wade is a great example. Fa Obada has done it, 1627 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 1: and then there there are others. You know, the Patriots 1628 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 1: had a guy this year's well, so they're guys who can. 1629 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:11,360 Speaker 1: But you know, you need, like seriously, you need like 1630 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,240 Speaker 1: two hundred of those guys a year, yea, for just 1631 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,400 Speaker 1: to get to a place where you have four teams 1632 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 1: in Europe. So it's a heavy lift. It's a heavy lift, 1633 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,080 Speaker 1: and it's going to take generations to get the game, 1634 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,200 Speaker 1: the interest of the game enough so young players will 1635 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,719 Speaker 1: take up the game and be good enough and develop 1636 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,960 Speaker 1: enough and be in a league that's that's challenging enough 1637 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 1: to make them great. So it's a long way off. 1638 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,760 Speaker 1: And I'd say I gotta say false. Yeah, we went 1639 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 1: false across the board there for Yancey's fancy front to 1640 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 1: back NFL true false, brought to you by Yancy's Fancy 1641 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,040 Speaker 1: New York's artists and cheese. We break now, Steve and 1642 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,960 Speaker 1: I close it up next here on One Bill's Life. 1643 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve 1644 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 1: Tasker with you. And if we think for a second, Steve, 1645 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,000 Speaker 1: about the new pieces on the offensive side of the ball, 1646 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 1: in the new roles on the coaching staff, namely Ken 1647 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:22,920 Speaker 1: Dorsey OC, Joe Brady quarterbacks coach, Aaron Cromer offensive line coach. 1648 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 1: What is your anticipation of that blend, Because you've got 1649 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 1: a veteran guy in Cromer, You've got a young up 1650 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 1: and comer in Brady, and you've got a guy who's 1651 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,639 Speaker 1: ready to embark on a new chapter of his career 1652 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,519 Speaker 1: in Dorsey. Yeah, I think it's It looks on the surface, 1653 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 1: looks like a perfect mix. A guy who's been entrenched 1654 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 1: in the offense for four years getting ready to take 1655 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,599 Speaker 1: over the reins, and he's gotten learned from a guy 1656 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,559 Speaker 1: who is considered a phenomenal at it, a young guy 1657 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 1: who wants to be that, and a guy who's been 1658 01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 1: through it at the highest levels in his run game, 1659 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,799 Speaker 1: passing game and done the job for other teams. Certainly 1660 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 1: it all comes down to their relationship. Well, hopefully that flourishes. Yeah, 1661 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,320 Speaker 1: working with one another might be that's the biggest hurdle 1662 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 1: because they all seem pretty accomplished. So we'll see. Time 1663 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 1: will tell, and it'll make OTA's in the spring very 1664 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 1: very interesting. Steve and I are done for today. We'll 1665 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,600 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow as we begin some RAMS coverage with 1666 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 1: former RAMS running back Doc Holiday joining us. We'll see 1667 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:36,080 Speaker 1: tomorrow one